A sensible person realizes how counterproductive Mr.Jones rant was. It did not earn him favor. Used to be an Alex fan, but now find myself questioning his credibility. Both Peter & Alex have contributed much to awakening the people.
Perhaps Alex appeals more to the 'red-neck' crowd? There are those who respond to the hammer on head, in your face journalism and are not intellectually geared for Peter's deeper, coherent style.
cont'd from below....I say people should watch from a different perspective and ask themselves if this is a propaganda film, and what exactly their agenda is for putting out these well-produced, obviously time-intensive films. it seems to be there's something bigger behind this. bigger than Joseph, and with an agenda. something doesn't smell right there. connect the dots.
my intuition tells me something's not right. notice how sleek the production is....how everything is done so professionally. it's almost hypnotic. so where did he come from. pretty much nowhere, except that he worked in advertising. isn't that interesting? not only the system he fights against, but an industry where you learn how to manipulate and convince the masses to buy what you're selling. sometimes consciously...sometimes not. so what IS the agenda here?
@EasternMerchant so you're saying you weren't already aware of the topics? the same topics that other sources have been talking about for years? why not? these aren't new discussions in the film. what's the purpose of the film? to regurgitate discussions talking place all over the net? or is there a more sinister purpose? what's the agenda? you have to have an understanding that it's a propaganda piece first and foremost, before you can look at it objectively. good or bad it's a propaganda piece
@dunkafelic yes but for the first time, they have found a SOLUTION! :D::::::::::::: We have not only known these problems but have experienced them on a personal level and some of us will forever be damaged by the horrors perpetrated by the powers who control this this world! No where in history can we find such a strategy that not only fulfills our Needs but our DESIRES! Desires to pursue the things we dream about, experience as much as this physical world has to offer!
@EasternMerchant and what solution might that be? the venus project? that's the only thing close to a "solution" that I saw, and that was hardly realistic. besides, the two parted ways. kind of funny that the "solution" ended before it even came close to "starting". drawings and animations are hardly something to hang your hat on. from the perspective of a realist I wouldn't even know where to begin breaking down how unrealistic that "plan" is. perfect for those that DON'T REALLY WANT CHANGE!
@dunkafelic Two people have parted in name, but in their ideals, they are still joined because of the people who choose to believe in those ideals will keep them alive. Just like the Beatles have parted and some have died, but their songs still resonate with us half a century later! I know that there are some who do not wish for change, but you and I can still keep on moving forward to the next realm of existence! We must keep trying for the sake of our children's future!
@EasternMerchant or maybe it will stop "resonating" when people do just a little basic research and realize what the agenda is here.
then again, I guess those that believe what they saw in the zeitgeist films were in some way revelatory probably don't do a lot of research on their own.
that's how the zeitgeist movement can gain the trust of legions of followers by presenting material other people have been presenting for years and has been bubbling to the surface.
@dunkafelic Dear Sir, what would possibly ever compel you to oppose that which would finally bring peace and harmony for all humans and bring balance to the earth?
@EasternMerchant dear sir, what makes you think they have any sort of solution whatsoever that would bring about peace and harmony? you just assume the venus project concept is the answer? how would you know that? it's never been attempted...and many would argue that it's impossible. it would be quite an infrastructural undertaking. I argue that people should focus on change that's actually possible, rather than having a legion of people's energies diverted toward a utopian BS society. come on.
@dunkafelic we must be optimistic for the future! Anything is possible! We have the Technology and Resources, all that is needed is a willingness for such transition for manifest itself into existence!
@dunkafelic if you do not see or understand the atrocities takeing place under the current system and just accept things as buisness as usual. then you will never wake up. suggest you research the atlas city inititve or the nzp---or other carbon neutral cities
@riseingstardust I suggest you make fewer assumptions about people you don't know the first thing about. I also suggest watching the Zeitgeist films again with someone who's objective and has a good understanding of secret societies and their agendas, as well as an understanding of the usage of media for purposes of agenda propagation.
it's pretty ironic though for you to tell ME to wake up when you're apparently not aware that these films are propaganda pieces for the new world order agenda.
@riseingstardust btw it's not just about research, it's also about being able to integrate your research and connect the dots as they relate to one another. how do you think I came to this conclusion? the more I researched (and I did) the more obvious it became. so I'd suggest if you still don't see the obvious relationship between zeitgeist and the NWO that YOU do some real research and see if YOU'RE able to connect the dots.
and yes I'd say one of us probably does need to wake up.
I've watched all 3 zeitgeists and had friends watch too. at first I thought it was pretty profound...someone telling the truth. but has anyone else noticed that all the truths mentioned are/have been in the process of being widely discovered? these are truths we more or less already know. it serves to make us trust him/zeitgeist. but look at the symbolism throughout. symbolism is a universal language that cuts straight through your conscious into your subconscious. btw venus=light-bearer=lucifer
I love that interview. I have watched probably about five times. Hahaha...i dont see what you are whining about. It was great radio. I like when people take the gloves off and talk how they want. You are crazy for not likin that vid. oh well. haha..this is funny.
make this about Alex Jones being a bad individual because he's imperfect and Peter Joseph being some kind of messiah. I personally think both men have a lot of valor and am grateful for their contributions. To turn this thing around we need an informed public and both men reach totally different audiences and you're going to make a video and bitch and ninny about Alex Jones being rude? So he's a fear monger-the world is scary. I'm not sure how fake applies. Perhaps you might explain.
You've got a lot of nerve, I don't know who you are and I doubt anyone else does either but Alex Jones is a prolific workhorse and his output dwarfs all other contributions made by others to real journalism. So he was rude to Peter Joseph, I heard the interview and I agree, it was awful and he was very unfair to Peter but talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Alex Jones reaches a MASS audience. Who gives a shit if he's rude sometimes? We're losing EVERYTHING and we're going...
I'm not trying to do that stupid joke thing, but eh how much you wanna bet as soon as the Truth Jockey said how God murdered his own people quickly disliked the vid without watching it :)
ZEITGEIST IS A MIND HEIST, JACQUE AND PETER ARE UNITED NATION FRONTS FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER TO IMPOSE A COLLECTIVIST/TECHNOCRATIC DICTATORSHIP ON LAZY NIHILISTIC TRUTHERS WHO THINK THEY HAVE SHED ONE PARADIGM ONLY TO REPLACE IT WITH ANOTHER MORE INSIDIOUS ONE.
Alex Jones is and has always been a war mongering shill... He helped open the blinds up a bit but it's up to each individual person to find out there own truth and do so in a way which helps and elevates one's energy and consciousness. Your words were right on the money no pun intended. Thanks
I thought your response to the Alex Jones interview was a thoughtful, restrained, and articulate view. I have been a fan of much of Alex Jones' work, but on this one, I'm in agreement with you -- it was a grave disappointment.
What i want to know is if Peter is so rightful why is he freaking lying in his documentaries????????????? Why is he being deceitful by lying to the people? Watch this doccumentary youtube.com/watch?v=1hgX6w4U-2o&feature=related
What i want to know is if Peter is so rightful why is he freaking lying in his documentaries????????????? Why is he being deceitful by lying to the people? Watch this doccumentary watch?v=1hgX6w4U-2o&feature=related
I would also like (love) to have an interview with Fresco and Joseph 'together' just so I can expose the deception they are playing out. (and video tape all of it for the record.)
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Please, please, please debate me on TZM / TVP / RBE and don't worry....I won't bring up religion at all.
Alex Jones woke me up, but now I think he should get his own show on FOX NEWS. I would be careful of Peter Joseph, I trust David Icke because everyone laughed at him, but I'm not sure I trust the "things" David Icke fallows. So I remain vigilant, and never too stuck to one ideology.
The Nazi believed the Jews were behind everything, that truned out to be not a very healthy ideology.
TruthJockey: Hi, I enjoyed listening to your honest viewpoints. Your mention of murders and other negative things described in the Holy Bible is very accurate. But going by that same Bible did you know that when you look at the book as a whole, as in from beginning to end, that the reason for Jesus' time on earth and death and resurrection was to change the way of the Old Testament? And if so, why did you imply that the entire story of God is a vengeful, murderous being?
Alex Jones disappointed me so much in that interview. I thought a lot more of him before, he made me spend the whole conversation feeling sorry for Peter Joseph
I found what you had to say interesting and I definitely agree with you on more than a few points.
All I will say about Christopher Hitchens is that I happen to hold a very similar viewpoint with regard to faith and religion as him (I also think he speaks brilliantly on that particular subject.)
Peter Joseph seems to talk an awful lot of sense!
I have the deepest respect for the scientific method and a fascination with what it can(and does)both do & discover.
How is there no higher name than the name of Jesus if the letter J was created around 500 years ago by the europeans. Please fact check with any search engine on the internet.
If men inspired by god wrote the bible, how did they get the names wrong of Jesus, Jahova, Joshua, Jacob and others.
@TruthJockey: You are a good example of what Aldous Huxley once professed, " ... People will soon look forward to their servitude ". Alex is a wakeup call to the NWO. He is a talk show host not a prophet. However, Peter, wants people to follow him into a new Atlantis called the Venus project. Two different agendas. I see nothing wrong with either of them, because no one is getting harmed. I want you and peter to build this Venus project and get on with your new social experiment.
@thomas43ification That's a very elaborate conspiracy theory friend...& Huxley said folks would "love" their servitude, not "look forward" to it. But there's one MAJOR flaw in your argument - Peter has NO AFFILIATION with the Venus Project! Maybe Peter did (at one time) but he's NO LONGER associated with J. Fresco or Venus Project. But seriously, keep listening to that fear mongering fake (Alex Jones) & keep up the tomfoolery & shenanigans. I'm concerned about your health, friend - seek a Dr
@TruthJockey What kind of response is that ?? You should understand people's hesitancy towards letting some social engineers run the World without any democracy. He made a intelligent point and your response was just pure blind hatred.
Please do the Venus Project first in one town/city and if it is successful then more and more people will follow you.
@thomas43ification: TruthJockey: Do not worry, I am under control. I listen to what Alex has to say. It is part of many sources I get information from, then I wash it through my reality machine, then I set it out to dry in the real world air, then I do more research, and then I mix it in a bowl of history, splash in some mass psychology/philosophy, and out comes what I believe true. Before I digest it, I cake on some of my own personal beliefs......and MMMMM good stuff.
@thomas43ification: I was in the US military, and yes, we were all fear moongers. That was all we did was prepare for the worse. It has it's purpose in life. Just say Alex is wrong? and the people that listen to him prepare for the worst. What will they lose ? There is a difference between panic and fearing what is likely to happen. He tells no one to Panic and over-react. Just be prepared. He has many guest and they all say the same things. It is just not all his views or words. Enough with U.
saw the interview yesterday and i must say i lost all my respect for alex jones and i saw a clip when alex say zeitgeist is a illuminati movie haha alex is just pathetic!
...only a lunatic self serving narcissist such as Jones thinks he still has time to rant about anything - besides the corporate machine. Even soooo precious Jones is out of time. He must quit taking money from the Kochs - ideological Nazis. His kind of hate begets only more hate - which blinds actual vision. CALL JONES OUT! This vicious hatred is exactly the agenda of fascist corporatism disguised as the teaparty etc. Jones is a shill for Koch - a venal distraction. Behind you!!!
Hey I hear you man, I think Alex was out of his league intellectually in that interview and it showed. But I think both genuinely want a better world and both go about it differently. I would like a bit more detail from Peter about how people are to be "re-educated" and how the movement would be administrated though, I don't think Peter did have detailed answers for these at the time.
Wow, i just wanted to say i'm very impressed. your critique is so well articulated and your ability to say what's right instead of what's easy is inspiring. Follow the logic and ideas, not the figure heads. I love some thing Alex Jones does but some things he does are straight up retarded. I am inspired to see another person to call it how it is and stick to what's important instead of who seems to be the leader.
yeah it true, without the money. The upper high class, the elite wouldn't have any backer to back they to do what they really want. Money is the wall that block our way toward the future.
thanks brother and I agree wholeheartedly with you. I have learned form you and I appreciate your inputs. I look forward to listening and sharing with you and I will subscribe. when humanity can drop dominion (the sources of our problems), and quit following what doesn't work, then we may have a chance.
Peter Joseph courageously embodies the humanistic / scientific enlightenment of the 21 st century. He has grasped the very inner structrual contradictions of the CAPITALIST/MONETARY system and his revolutionary call for a WORLD OF COOPERATION FOR OUR COMMON NEEDS AND WELL BEING should be the CONSTITUTION OF NEW HUMANI CIVIILISATION. My deepest respect to my brother P.Joseph. in Zetgeist for Venus Project, Time to make history democratically,consciously and globally,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
@arzoyan YAY!! YAY for SOCIALISM and a resounding Bu-BYE!!! to the perilous evil of individual freedom and great big HELLO!!! to mediocrity and the ebbing of the human spirit!!! Let's all join a collective, yes? Just toutin' ;)
@Innuendoh A moneyless,classless,stateless communities of humanity expressing our freedom in creative harmonious cooperation for a world that is so POTENTIALLY AND ACTUALLY nourishing. Capitalism in any form, Statist or Corporatist is the denial of our common humanity in a politically manipulated,tyrannical armed MARKET SYSYTEM of artificial scarcity that is designed to perpetuate the enslavement of immense humanity for material interest of the criminal ruling elite.
@arzoyan YAY!!! Thank you for the response, comrade... Have you thanked a veteran lately for your guaranteed individual freedoms? Including the right to dissent? Yes? Just askin' ;)
i completely agree with what you are saying here. Alex sounds petty in the "interview". It was disgusting to watch. I thought he was transforming in that 4/4 vid series.
Alex Jones seems to have the same personality type as my mom (ESTJ). This is to say that even if he wasn't religious, it would be hard for him to follow Peter's train of thought, because of his lack of intuitive function. But yes, religion as belief projected to your personal lifestyle is fine, but projected to anyone's and everyone's lifestyle is not. Alex does not follow total truth and rational reasoning.
Hey Dude nice video, Alex Jones is nothing but a fear monger. What did he get left out of the Masons cause everything according to him is a conspiracy by them to control the world. To the Masons and the United Nations - hey you guys please let Alex Jones play golf with you, so he will not get left out and cry.
O.K. T.J. R.B. Fuller offered an incontestable argument for proof of The Creator in Synergetics. James Clerk Maxwell proved Creationism through Hyperdimensional Physics. Remember Jesus turning the water to wine? He also opened the Door for all of us to whom it had been closed under the Mosaic Law.
Maxwell proved Creationism? You must pull your head out of your ass (or out of the bible, same thing).
I bet you're not even familiar with Maxwells equations (classical electrodynamics), so you won't impress anyone with "hyperdimesional physics". And synergetics is the theory of nonequilibrium thermodynamical systems, which shows how complexity can arise in simple systems without intelligent intervention (at least it's what synergetics means in science).
peter pawns alex jones anyday of the week,Alex jones rants,peter joseph talks.I watch both of these guys and alex jones does have some good material theres no denying there,its just the way he goes about it thats anoying,sometimes i feel embarrassed by listening to alex jones,peter joseph seems far more respectable,and intelligent
Great. Debate, argument, new Ideas. The one thing I fail to see is proposed solutions. Everyone wants to disagree with the opposing viewpoints, but not one of you intelligent, educated, open-eyed individuals have presented anything close to solutions to the problem. Why are we so focused on relieving symptoms that we can't remember the cause of them?
"The significant problems we face as a society cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." - Albert Einstein
I'm sorry but you won't find any directions in the so-called 'zeitgeist movement'. It's actually a Fabian socialist movement, under a more paliatable guise, selling you the UN Agenda 21 for communitarianism,again under different names. You should check that program, now being implemented all over the world,since it's the definite program for global fascism.
But it can be sold via fuzzy appeals for 'community spirit' and 'people power'. They don't show you the brick wall sealing the exit, though.
@TheStarfkr Well, then I guess we are all screwed. I don't know who to trust anymore. I wish I was still plugged into the matrix. At least ignorance is bliss.
Got hurt over his faith being called into question and decided to do a smear job on him.... That's not real enlightened behavior. Not saying hate the guy, but his ego is part of the problem. Peter Joseph is about finding the route causes to issues and fixing them. He deserves a great deal more respect then he's been given.
I am going to watch the interview now. I've always thought Alex Jones and George Noary (coast to coast radio) were kind of in the buisness of keeping people scared. Although I think the fear makes you think a little more about your actual situation, and helps people initially open their eyes. Its all "Ying and Yang"
You seem to mean well, but you need to realize Alex Jones told the truth. The Zeitgeist Movement is pushing for Scientific Communism. Artificial Intelligence, yes intelligent machines, will be in complete control of society, you will not own private property, you will not have money, your entire life will be dictated by resources. The first Zeitgeist tricked a lot of people into thinking it was anti-NWO, but the truth has been revealed in # 2 & 3. Zeitgeist is the NWO.
@TheStarfkr I don't know where you get Communism out of TZM at all? But what you don't realize is automation is already coming on it's way and taking over employment more and more everyday. It's just a matter of what systems in place for it to be good or not. And the fact that there's property and money generated out of our monetary system is the reason things are so damn bad. Oh and "NWO" has been here, since debt was invented. So it's not exactly new anymore is it?
TZM & VP are pushing for a form of "Scientific Communism", Communism + a Scientific Dictatorship (what we've been warned about and what the elites have wanted for over a hundred years now.) Remember, There's a reason why Peter Joseph & the VP gang is rubbing elbows with royalty and speaking at U.N. sponsored meetings. It's not a coincidence that TZM &VP's plan is remarkably similar to the U.N.'s plan for the future. The Zeitgesit films are NWO propaganda.
@TheStarfkr Where are your facts bro? The main point, regardless of what the elites want, is that the current system is not sustainable. Period, end of story. Who gives a fuck about the elites. If we wake up enough people they will have absolutely no power. TZM is a bottom up social movement. We aren't following some supreme leader to the promised land. If the elite try to pull some shit we won't have it.
You completely missed the point. This is what the elites want. Who do you think is behind Agenda 21 & the sustainability movement? Hint: The U.N. It's called Agenda 21 and it was put into effect in 1992 w/out any public input or vote. As I wrote before, there is a reason why P.J. & the VP gang are rubbing elbows w/ royalty & speaking at U.N. sponsored meetings. I've seen the propaganda commercials put out by these groups. (cont.)
In the propaganda commercials, it's the common people, you and I, who pay the price. Money still exists, it's just that it's a cashless society. The rich still exist and the elites still rule the world. The common people live the new sustainabile lifestyles, the elite still live the life they've grown accustomed too.
No, what is propaganda is the Zeitgeist films. It's a classic "bait and switch" scam. Are you tired of the current system? Do you want real change? Are you opposed to the NWO? Then joing with TZM and embrace our vision of the future...which is the NWO. You are being decieved. TZM promotes a form of communism and a scientific dictatorship. On top of that you are beling lied to. There will be money, it's just that it will be a cashless society and the elites will still rule.
Great video, I felt the same, lost a ton of respect for Alex, as he resorted to the name calling, subject changing and butting in over Peter. You could really tell he thought it was a contest or game where he was trying to prove he was better and smarter than Peter.
In a way you can see where Alex is coming from, hes been doing this for years, and then some guy out of nowhere makes 2 awesome documentaries that become instant hits, but it's still not acceptable to basically bully your guests.
Great response, Alex jones was off based in that interview! I do think Alex brings a lot of great information I just want to make sure we don't toss the baby out with the bath water.
Great video bud...I feel the same way. Alex Jones lost any freethinker to freethinker respect I had for him after that. You could tell he was trying to knock down another person who is competition for him. He showed that he was a crap individual and it sounds like he may be a theist-which explains everything in his attitude.
After listening to that interview last night for the first time I was utterly exhausted. I could not believe the hysterical, reactionary rhetoric Jones was spouting and then came the 'big kid-little kid' schoolyard bullying...ugly stuff. I would love to see a full transcript of the interview because it is a diamond mine of logical fallacies and rhetorical manoeuvres to look out for in our attempts for dialogue without involvement of ego-identities and the spray-shitting of emotional invective,
Vatican-Pope-Jesuits-illuminati-NAZIS-CFR (luciferian jews) run the world. All secret societies, organized religions ruled by an elite bloodline, same bloodline ruling from Egypt 2 Rome British (European) Empire - America Empire (1913 Fed Reserve. Presidents & King stand at whim of the real power which is the priest hood (Priests - Bishops - Cardinals - Pope) standing behind the throne - trying to form it's one world luciferian gov't.
Agreed! 100% correct! I was disappointed in Alex, too. I believe that Peter Joseph is intelligent and his graciousness shows a lot more class than Alex!
Peter is doing something amazing, supporting, educating about the truth and the heart of the matter that causes our troubles of the world today. Alex is a fool and disrespectful host, especially to someone like Peter, who really deserves a lot more respect. Watch the video and you will see that Peter is the better man in this interview.
Agreed! 100% correct! I was disappointed in Alex, too. I believe that Peter Joseph is intelligent and his graciousness shows a lot more class than Alex!
Peter is doing something amazing, supporting, educating about the truth and the heart of the matter that causes our trouble of the world today. Alex is a fool and disrespectful host, especially to someone like Peter, who really deserves a lot more respect. Watch the video and you will see that Peter is the better man in this interview.
@spankMAbooTAY *people to be divided, that's how they can really control us, by separating us because different age, race, religion, sex, etc... And I believe that we are all connected and we all are God to a certain point, we too can create... But since I don't believe in God I can't say "God bless you" ahaha so yeah, I just wish you and your loved ones a happy life =b
@spankMAbooTAY *and will most likely continue... I think that people should really stop blaming others and start looking to themselves. I mean, what is a government without the people? It is nothing. Money, government, autorities, it all exists because we are not self sufficient, we can't manage to be truly free and so we need someone to control and protect us, as long as we stop supporting the bankers and the government they will just fall.. oh and thank you so much =) there is no point for*
@spankMAbooTAY Well I've been trying to do the most I can, I've been doing activism in the streets like talking to people about this stuff, etc, with a group here at my country which supports the Zeitgeist Movement... What is really annoying is that everyone thinks the same, everyone wants peace and love and no corruption or greed or hatred, but still things don't ever change, it's always the same, everybody "knows" the truth, everybody has someone to blame, but still, this has been going on*
@spankMAbooTAY I'm not american too, and actually I'm too young to vote, I'm going to be 18 in 2 months xD and I didn't say that there is no NWO and Illuminati etc, I'm well aware of them and of course the bankers are ripping us of and I know as soon as I get a job I will only be another wage slave... I just think that alex jones is a hypocrite and is using people, and the only thing I see him doing is shouting at buildings and disbelieving other people that have the same goals as him...
@spankMAbooTAY *own research. And I bet a lot of his followers are like the douchebags that voted for bush just because he worships god, those people didn't even know shit about politics and are easily manipulated. And as long as you follow someone blindly and trust every single word he says without questioning it, if you think you know the truth, you're just being manipulated and letting others think for you. The same way government manipulates people....
@dongerado look I'm not trying to defame jones, I bet you all love him and you belive he's a good guy, but he tried to disbelief Zeitgeist when their objective should be the same... We all want a better society free from corruption, there is no need for us to turn against each other like alex jones did...
@ItsAllChaos i dont think he iz a good guy... like everyone else that are many things that i dont agree on.
but jones has a better influence on people because the problem is not all forms of religion.. y mean i looked at zeitgeist first and it is good...but jones has done much more.. he opend my eyes to the truth of this planet and i dont like it!!! and every country needs to band together to take back our planet!
@dongerado well that's a personal choice, if you like more alex jones, you watch him =P I like more the aproach made by zeitgeist. And people should seriously stop looking only into the religion part in zeitgeist, and start looking at the whole. It doesn't even state that there isn't a god. It just provides some facts, it's just info, it doesn't hurt anyone, and there are a lot of christians that should accept what other people think but they don't, and alex jones is one of them, it's my opinion
@dongerado and I agree with you, and it's exactly one of the things that peter joseph meant in the documentary, stop thinking that people are different from each other and start to unite and live in harmony like a global family, without wars over money or religion or race...
@spankMAbooTAY he exploits the desire that people have of knowing the truth for personal profit, and is close minded, and tries to destroy anything that goes against his beliefs... I actually think his objectives are good but I don't like his methods. And he has that attitude of someone who thinks that knows the whole truth and is better than everyone else and was sent to save everybody lol when in fact he didn't do shit. He just exploits the fact that people are too fucking lazy to do their*
@spankMAbooTAY "honest money"? Man I'm sure he loves what he does but he loves being the center of all attentions and the leader and believe me he doesn't give a fuck about you. That interview just showed the egocentric son of a bitch he is... he wouldn't even let peter joseph express his ideas clearly... and I wouldn't trust someone who follows a fairy tail book
@spankMAbooTAY After watching the interview closely the difference between social progression for the sake of altruism should be clearly outlined. Jones capitalizes of fear mongering and uses base argument to incite entertainment, because otherwise he feels his little radio show isn't interesting enough. Compare the two and see how Joseph keeps his cool with patience, while Jones shouts idiocy, like "I DECLARE ABORTIONS ARE EVIL! YEAAHHH" Completely inappropriate for an intellectual discussion.
True religion is living without conflict, but religions have created just the opposite throught human history, and are still obviously creating conflict. The problem with religions is that they are full of ideals and ideas. Ideals and ideas give rise to conflict, it is inevitable, because they create conflict between that what is and that what should be. The truth just is, and true religion therefor should be comfortable in what is the truth, instead of that what conflicts with it.
Good video. I agree with you about Alex Jones. Alex is a conspiracy theory profiteer. Alex Jones is a pig. Infowars? Alex Jones is soldier for a military and the war is on the public for their money. He sells u partial truths but ultimately he's not interested in fixin the problems on planet earth. Instead he's greedy. Taking as much treasures as he can and stuffing his fat belly. Laughing at all the fools who buy his bullshit. Jones is leading ppl into nowhere land & he's a nowhere man.
Just one thing tho, I am no way a "christian" but the bible is still an awesome book with alot of wisdom in it - its just a shame alot of idiots hijacked what it is - just an old book from an older time filled with cool stories and stuff - microcosms, macrocosms, metaphor, allegory, and some historical fact etc... but yeah...
I agree with virtually everything you just said tho...
in glad you made this video. i couldnt agree with you more. jones was certainly out of line the way he acted. Jones missed a whole opportunity to really get to know about peters project. it seemed like jones was constantly asking peter irrelevant questions in a attempt to make peter look foolish and/or biased towards certain things. After listening to peter, I feel he is one of the best philosophers of our time. He certainly makes VERY valid points. Its sad that jones wasted this opportunity
I was just watching the "debate," and I stopped watching when Jones he started going off the way he did. I didn't realize he was so crazy. What the hell is wrong with him?
I think Alex Jones is a cointelpro agent ! look how he lied about the William Cooper interview as well as the pro gun rally in Texas and that's two examples.I hear his voice and I turn it off.
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Hmmm what are the chances that the "historians" that dissproved Zeitgeist happen to be religious scholars, ok before I ever even heard of Zeitgeist I read at least 8-10 years ago that the Great Flood and the ark and all that whole story has been told time n time again before the bible
zeitgeist is a new age movie that has all been proven by real historians to be bullshit. Blavotsky is a new age bitch where all this shit was made up from. do your research people. go to the video called zeitgeist refuted on youtube and then go to college so you can really prove it to yourself.
with the best they could mutter with their primative language as there was nothing else to talk about but metaphysics, religion came about accidentally by early mans first attempt to a Grand Unified Theory and according to the scientific method (which brings you just about every cool thing that matters that u ever used) proves God as the answer, a Epic Epic Fail
If man had evolved as they say he had, doesn't it make sense at least a little that they probably would have tried to explain fire,wind,smoke,water,earthquakes,disease,life,death,the sun,stars,planets,...
what people thousands of years ago who hadn't explanations for natural phenomenon and explained them away with elaborate and fanciful fairytale reminiscent stories passed on generation after generation, distorted, twisted, warped to those who were in power at that time wrote.
But then again not steal a quote, "let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater" he (A.J.) does shed light on some important issues but the ones who matter know how to distinguish the difference between the ones who are actively seeking the truth and don't claim to have the answers as opposed to those believe if they just sit back, Jesus or (...)fill in the blank, will take care of you and that he's coming back any day and believe
Same here I used to watch prison planet till this interview with Alex jones, he sounds simply ignorant, closing his mind to new ideas implying he knows the nature of man instead of believing that man can prosper, the planet can heal, we can end hunger, slavery, poverty and the deathhold money and religion have on our planets ppl and resources,... We don't need a God to be moral
Having said that, I don't want to "throw the baby out with the bath water" so to speak. Meaning A.J.still may have important information on the state of the world, and what's going on with military, inside sources, NWO, whatever...In spite of his ignorance he has hipped me to alot of info I never knew before.
That's what I do with things/people now a days. No one has all the answers, they just have a "piece" then I add that to my collective mind like a puzzle, and come to my own conclusions.
Very mindful video and humble apology for ignorant Christians. All the other stuff is God's buisness I don't get into all of that, or I could, but find it exhausting!
The point is "Zeitgeist" is a breath of fresh air! and P.J. is very intelligent and mindful of humanity and people and that's what this is all about.
I am a beleiver and actually "practice what I preach" so I am not ashamed of my faith, but I am ashamed of the people who haphazardly use the "Christ" name.
LoL.Yeah,that was two big ego's going at it right there.I appreciate what Jones has to offer and think he's a pretty good guy, yet see that at times,he's an actor,clown.Joseph is way more complicated.Also a good guy,but his game plan is in no way possible.No way.TJ's' right.AJ was the in fight initiator in that one big time.At least they are here doing what they do.I really wish Bill Cooper was still here.That would be great.Being in an environment like I am,the infighting amazes me.So Dumb.
Good straight-forward analysis and rational, too. Wouldn't surprise me if Alex Jone$ is actually trying to indoctrinate people into the NWO as well and blackmail Peter Joseph.
@Donald09231985 That's something to think about?...It really is. It's not like something like that isen't possible. Good critical thinking!
See, that's what this is all about; thinking for yourself about things that "could" be possible backed up with "evidence" of course. but good start! :)
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EasternMerchant 1 month ago
"FEAR is the Offspring of the Unknown!"
EasternMerchant 2 months ago
A sensible person realizes how counterproductive Mr.Jones rant was. It did not earn him favor. Used to be an Alex fan, but now find myself questioning his credibility. Both Peter & Alex have contributed much to awakening the people.
Perhaps Alex appeals more to the 'red-neck' crowd? There are those who respond to the hammer on head, in your face journalism and are not intellectually geared for Peter's deeper, coherent style.
Craig7280 2 months ago
cont'd from below....I say people should watch from a different perspective and ask themselves if this is a propaganda film, and what exactly their agenda is for putting out these well-produced, obviously time-intensive films. it seems to be there's something bigger behind this. bigger than Joseph, and with an agenda. something doesn't smell right there. connect the dots.
dunkafelic 3 months ago
my intuition tells me something's not right. notice how sleek the production is....how everything is done so professionally. it's almost hypnotic. so where did he come from. pretty much nowhere, except that he worked in advertising. isn't that interesting? not only the system he fights against, but an industry where you learn how to manipulate and convince the masses to buy what you're selling. sometimes consciously...sometimes not. so what IS the agenda here?
dunkafelic 3 months ago
@dunkafelic it's pretty simple to me.. he convey not only ideas, but why those ideas are valid. This is a very powerful combination!
EasternMerchant 2 months ago
@EasternMerchant so you're saying you weren't already aware of the topics? the same topics that other sources have been talking about for years? why not? these aren't new discussions in the film. what's the purpose of the film? to regurgitate discussions talking place all over the net? or is there a more sinister purpose? what's the agenda? you have to have an understanding that it's a propaganda piece first and foremost, before you can look at it objectively. good or bad it's a propaganda piece
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EasternMerchant 1 month ago
@dunkafelic yes but for the first time, they have found a SOLUTION! :D::::::::::::: We have not only known these problems but have experienced them on a personal level and some of us will forever be damaged by the horrors perpetrated by the powers who control this this world! No where in history can we find such a strategy that not only fulfills our Needs but our DESIRES! Desires to pursue the things we dream about, experience as much as this physical world has to offer!
EasternMerchant 1 month ago
@EasternMerchant and what solution might that be? the venus project? that's the only thing close to a "solution" that I saw, and that was hardly realistic. besides, the two parted ways. kind of funny that the "solution" ended before it even came close to "starting". drawings and animations are hardly something to hang your hat on. from the perspective of a realist I wouldn't even know where to begin breaking down how unrealistic that "plan" is. perfect for those that DON'T REALLY WANT CHANGE!
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EasternMerchant 1 month ago
@dunkafelic Two people have parted in name, but in their ideals, they are still joined because of the people who choose to believe in those ideals will keep them alive. Just like the Beatles have parted and some have died, but their songs still resonate with us half a century later! I know that there are some who do not wish for change, but you and I can still keep on moving forward to the next realm of existence! We must keep trying for the sake of our children's future!
EasternMerchant 1 month ago
@EasternMerchant or maybe it will stop "resonating" when people do just a little basic research and realize what the agenda is here.
then again, I guess those that believe what they saw in the zeitgeist films were in some way revelatory probably don't do a lot of research on their own.
that's how the zeitgeist movement can gain the trust of legions of followers by presenting material other people have been presenting for years and has been bubbling to the surface.
I bought it for awhile
dunkafelic 1 month ago
@dunkafelic Dear Sir, what would possibly ever compel you to oppose that which would finally bring peace and harmony for all humans and bring balance to the earth?
EasternMerchant 1 month ago
@EasternMerchant dear sir, what makes you think they have any sort of solution whatsoever that would bring about peace and harmony? you just assume the venus project concept is the answer? how would you know that? it's never been attempted...and many would argue that it's impossible. it would be quite an infrastructural undertaking. I argue that people should focus on change that's actually possible, rather than having a legion of people's energies diverted toward a utopian BS society. come on.
dunkafelic 1 month ago
@dunkafelic we must be optimistic for the future! Anything is possible! We have the Technology and Resources, all that is needed is a willingness for such transition for manifest itself into existence!
EasternMerchant 1 month ago
@dunkafelic if you do not see or understand the atrocities takeing place under the current system and just accept things as buisness as usual. then you will never wake up. suggest you research the atlas city inititve or the nzp---or other carbon neutral cities
riseingstardust 2 weeks ago
@riseingstardust I suggest you make fewer assumptions about people you don't know the first thing about. I also suggest watching the Zeitgeist films again with someone who's objective and has a good understanding of secret societies and their agendas, as well as an understanding of the usage of media for purposes of agenda propagation.
it's pretty ironic though for you to tell ME to wake up when you're apparently not aware that these films are propaganda pieces for the new world order agenda.
dunkafelic 2 weeks ago
@riseingstardust btw it's not just about research, it's also about being able to integrate your research and connect the dots as they relate to one another. how do you think I came to this conclusion? the more I researched (and I did) the more obvious it became. so I'd suggest if you still don't see the obvious relationship between zeitgeist and the NWO that YOU do some real research and see if YOU'RE able to connect the dots.
and yes I'd say one of us probably does need to wake up.
dunkafelic 2 weeks ago
I've watched all 3 zeitgeists and had friends watch too. at first I thought it was pretty profound...someone telling the truth. but has anyone else noticed that all the truths mentioned are/have been in the process of being widely discovered? these are truths we more or less already know. it serves to make us trust him/zeitgeist. but look at the symbolism throughout. symbolism is a universal language that cuts straight through your conscious into your subconscious. btw venus=light-bearer=lucifer
dunkafelic 3 months ago
Grate job man. we need people like you man
OxziiMoron 4 months ago
I love that interview. I have watched probably about five times. Hahaha...i dont see what you are whining about. It was great radio. I like when people take the gloves off and talk how they want. You are crazy for not likin that vid. oh well. haha..this is funny.
blastingcaps 4 months ago in playlist Peter Joseph
make this about Alex Jones being a bad individual because he's imperfect and Peter Joseph being some kind of messiah. I personally think both men have a lot of valor and am grateful for their contributions. To turn this thing around we need an informed public and both men reach totally different audiences and you're going to make a video and bitch and ninny about Alex Jones being rude? So he's a fear monger-the world is scary. I'm not sure how fake applies. Perhaps you might explain.
911insidejo8 4 months ago
You've got a lot of nerve, I don't know who you are and I doubt anyone else does either but Alex Jones is a prolific workhorse and his output dwarfs all other contributions made by others to real journalism. So he was rude to Peter Joseph, I heard the interview and I agree, it was awful and he was very unfair to Peter but talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Alex Jones reaches a MASS audience. Who gives a shit if he's rude sometimes? We're losing EVERYTHING and we're going...
911insidejo8 4 months ago
Your a good man sir.
peace!
RevolutionaryCat11 5 months ago
Alex Jones makes me feel angry and fearful of the world. Peter Joseph makes me feel hopeful and enlightened.
tgt305 5 months ago 8
@tgt305 Alex Jones is an obnoxious, arrogant, ego-maniac. I recommend you check out David Icke.
dunkafelic 3 months ago
You make me want to put cotton balls in my ears.
wraithbaby1 5 months ago
I'm not trying to do that stupid joke thing, but eh how much you wanna bet as soon as the Truth Jockey said how God murdered his own people quickly disliked the vid without watching it :)
RebelManCam 5 months ago
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ZEITGEIST IS A MIND HEIST, JACQUE AND PETER ARE UNITED NATION FRONTS FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER TO IMPOSE A COLLECTIVIST/TECHNOCRATIC DICTATORSHIP ON LAZY NIHILISTIC TRUTHERS WHO THINK THEY HAVE SHED ONE PARADIGM ONLY TO REPLACE IT WITH ANOTHER MORE INSIDIOUS ONE.
energyvortex1000 5 months ago
Alex Jones is and has always been a war mongering shill... He helped open the blinds up a bit but it's up to each individual person to find out there own truth and do so in a way which helps and elevates one's energy and consciousness. Your words were right on the money no pun intended. Thanks
playb00y360 6 months ago
nice .. something very close to my thoughts on the subject is documented ..gj
VVc0mpu73r 6 months ago
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Warning! Zeitgeist is Illuminati/NWO propaganda. 100%.
Axxess7777 7 months ago
I thought your response to the Alex Jones interview was a thoughtful, restrained, and articulate view. I have been a fan of much of Alex Jones' work, but on this one, I'm in agreement with you -- it was a grave disappointment.
GrayBeard1947 7 months ago
I know exactly what you mean, the people are only half awake. Loved the way you broke this down for every body.
infoassassin84 7 months ago
What i want to know is if Peter is so rightful why is he freaking lying in his documentaries????????????? Why is he being deceitful by lying to the people? Watch this doccumentary youtube.com/watch?v=1hgX6w4U-2o&feature=related
LoveThalia4311 8 months ago
What i want to know is if Peter is so rightful why is he freaking lying in his documentaries????????????? Why is he being deceitful by lying to the people? Watch this doccumentary watch?v=1hgX6w4U-2o&feature=related
LoveThalia4311 8 months ago
good review man I completely agree with everything you said..thumbs up!
fizwizx 8 months ago
I would also like (love) to have an interview with Fresco and Joseph 'together' just so I can expose the deception they are playing out. (and video tape all of it for the record.)
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Please, please, please debate me on TZM / TVP / RBE and don't worry....I won't bring up religion at all.
ENDtheFED2012 8 months ago
I have spent over 150 hours studying Zeitgeist / Venus Project / Resoucred Based Economy and I find it very deceptive.
There are major questions that NO TZM / TVP / RBE advocate can answer.
I have gone to the TZM / TVP websites to ask these questions but NEVER receive an answer to them.
The VP / RBE would never work, and I can prove this with logic, reasoning, and critical thinking.
If any TZM / TVP / RBE follower wants to take these questions on, I welcome it.
ENDtheFED2012 8 months ago
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@ENDtheFED2012
I believe I have the same or similar questions, but I would like to hear yours,
e-mail, neroazzuro84@hotmail.com btw I don't follow anything...my personal critical mind tells me that this is highly developed utopia !
thanks
zarek984 6 months ago
Alex Jones woke me up, but now I think he should get his own show on FOX NEWS. I would be careful of Peter Joseph, I trust David Icke because everyone laughed at him, but I'm not sure I trust the "things" David Icke fallows. So I remain vigilant, and never too stuck to one ideology.
The Nazi believed the Jews were behind everything, that truned out to be not a very healthy ideology.
JohnnyThund3r 8 months ago
Great review, man! I'm on the side of open-minded, respectfull people, therefore on Peter Joseph side, and yours.
AlexeyJones 8 months ago
TruthJockey: Hi, I enjoyed listening to your honest viewpoints. Your mention of murders and other negative things described in the Holy Bible is very accurate. But going by that same Bible did you know that when you look at the book as a whole, as in from beginning to end, that the reason for Jesus' time on earth and death and resurrection was to change the way of the Old Testament? And if so, why did you imply that the entire story of God is a vengeful, murderous being?
jrock6467 8 months ago
good upload
NiclasTimle89 8 months ago
Alex Jones disappointed me so much in that interview. I thought a lot more of him before, he made me spend the whole conversation feeling sorry for Peter Joseph
SabinaBaptista 9 months ago
I found what you had to say interesting and I definitely agree with you on more than a few points.
All I will say about Christopher Hitchens is that I happen to hold a very similar viewpoint with regard to faith and religion as him (I also think he speaks brilliantly on that particular subject.)
Peter Joseph seems to talk an awful lot of sense!
I have the deepest respect for the scientific method and a fascination with what it can(and does)both do & discover.
I simply do not trust Alex Jones!
RandomVortex 9 months ago
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How is there no higher name than the name of Jesus if the letter J was created around 500 years ago by the europeans. Please fact check with any search engine on the internet.
If men inspired by god wrote the bible, how did they get the names wrong of Jesus, Jahova, Joshua, Jacob and others.
WOW
34eeelive 9 months ago
Alex Jones = Zionist Pig
Peter Joseph = New Age Blavatsky Kid
Both are pawns and sad cases.
thered702 9 months ago
@TruthJockey: You are a good example of what Aldous Huxley once professed, " ... People will soon look forward to their servitude ". Alex is a wakeup call to the NWO. He is a talk show host not a prophet. However, Peter, wants people to follow him into a new Atlantis called the Venus project. Two different agendas. I see nothing wrong with either of them, because no one is getting harmed. I want you and peter to build this Venus project and get on with your new social experiment.
thomas43ification 9 months ago
@thomas43ification That's a very elaborate conspiracy theory friend...& Huxley said folks would "love" their servitude, not "look forward" to it. But there's one MAJOR flaw in your argument - Peter has NO AFFILIATION with the Venus Project! Maybe Peter did (at one time) but he's NO LONGER associated with J. Fresco or Venus Project. But seriously, keep listening to that fear mongering fake (Alex Jones) & keep up the tomfoolery & shenanigans. I'm concerned about your health, friend - seek a Dr
TruthJockey 9 months ago 4
@TruthJockey What kind of response is that ?? You should understand people's hesitancy towards letting some social engineers run the World without any democracy. He made a intelligent point and your response was just pure blind hatred.
Please do the Venus Project first in one town/city and if it is successful then more and more people will follow you.
YksiSuomalainen 6 months ago
@thomas43ification: TruthJockey: Do not worry, I am under control. I listen to what Alex has to say. It is part of many sources I get information from, then I wash it through my reality machine, then I set it out to dry in the real world air, then I do more research, and then I mix it in a bowl of history, splash in some mass psychology/philosophy, and out comes what I believe true. Before I digest it, I cake on some of my own personal beliefs......and MMMMM good stuff.
thomas43ification 9 months ago
@thomas43ification: I was in the US military, and yes, we were all fear moongers. That was all we did was prepare for the worse. It has it's purpose in life. Just say Alex is wrong? and the people that listen to him prepare for the worst. What will they lose ? There is a difference between panic and fearing what is likely to happen. He tells no one to Panic and over-react. Just be prepared. He has many guest and they all say the same things. It is just not all his views or words. Enough with U.
thomas43ification 9 months ago
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@thomas43ification acharya s back peddles on ALL of her zeitgeist claims and sources:
search for: The 'Real' Zeitgeist Challenge" DEBUNKED
bible condemns sun worship in Deuteronomy 17:3 and Ezekiel 8:15-16
Horus NOT A VIRGIN BIRTH
Pyramid Text line 632
Isis "placed opon thy phallus and thy seed comes forth into her"
NOT A VIRGIN BIRTH
John Gwyn Griffiths Egyptologist
notjam3 4 months ago
thanks for the video TJ. alex was an ass.
toriphile426 9 months ago
saw the interview yesterday and i must say i lost all my respect for alex jones and i saw a clip when alex say zeitgeist is a illuminati movie haha alex is just pathetic!
NattyPJ 10 months ago 2
...only a lunatic self serving narcissist such as Jones thinks he still has time to rant about anything - besides the corporate machine. Even soooo precious Jones is out of time. He must quit taking money from the Kochs - ideological Nazis. His kind of hate begets only more hate - which blinds actual vision. CALL JONES OUT! This vicious hatred is exactly the agenda of fascist corporatism disguised as the teaparty etc. Jones is a shill for Koch - a venal distraction. Behind you!!!
nothypnotized 10 months ago
Hey I hear you man, I think Alex was out of his league intellectually in that interview and it showed. But I think both genuinely want a better world and both go about it differently. I would like a bit more detail from Peter about how people are to be "re-educated" and how the movement would be administrated though, I don't think Peter did have detailed answers for these at the time.
mikedm01 10 months ago
Wow, i just wanted to say i'm very impressed. your critique is so well articulated and your ability to say what's right instead of what's easy is inspiring. Follow the logic and ideas, not the figure heads. I love some thing Alex Jones does but some things he does are straight up retarded. I am inspired to see another person to call it how it is and stick to what's important instead of who seems to be the leader.
thereisnotruth 10 months ago
yeah it true, without the money. The upper high class, the elite wouldn't have any backer to back they to do what they really want. Money is the wall that block our way toward the future.
kinshin86 10 months ago
Thanks for the info buddy. I'll keep an, even more, open mind with that/this/him. The girls are too cute.
take care.
Echdrum 10 months ago
thanks brother and I agree wholeheartedly with you. I have learned form you and I appreciate your inputs. I look forward to listening and sharing with you and I will subscribe. when humanity can drop dominion (the sources of our problems), and quit following what doesn't work, then we may have a chance.
TheBerserker50 10 months ago
Yes you are correct if only every one was aware like you keep it up two thumbs up on the video.
HebrewHammer631 10 months ago
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peter joseph merola does not dislike the kkk
brahmbhattbhavna 10 months ago
@brahmbhattbhavna Cite your (legitimate) sources, friend! Thanks.
TruthJockey 10 months ago 11
Peter Joseph courageously embodies the humanistic / scientific enlightenment of the 21 st century. He has grasped the very inner structrual contradictions of the CAPITALIST/MONETARY system and his revolutionary call for a WORLD OF COOPERATION FOR OUR COMMON NEEDS AND WELL BEING should be the CONSTITUTION OF NEW HUMANI CIVIILISATION. My deepest respect to my brother P.Joseph. in Zetgeist for Venus Project, Time to make history democratically,consciously and globally,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
arzoyan 11 months ago
@arzoyan YAY!! YAY for SOCIALISM and a resounding Bu-BYE!!! to the perilous evil of individual freedom and great big HELLO!!! to mediocrity and the ebbing of the human spirit!!! Let's all join a collective, yes? Just toutin' ;)
Innuendoh 6 months ago
@Innuendoh A moneyless,classless,stateless communities of humanity expressing our freedom in creative harmonious cooperation for a world that is so POTENTIALLY AND ACTUALLY nourishing. Capitalism in any form, Statist or Corporatist is the denial of our common humanity in a politically manipulated,tyrannical armed MARKET SYSYTEM of artificial scarcity that is designed to perpetuate the enslavement of immense humanity for material interest of the criminal ruling elite.
arzoyan 6 months ago
@arzoyan YAY!!! Thank you for the response, comrade... Have you thanked a veteran lately for your guaranteed individual freedoms? Including the right to dissent? Yes? Just askin' ;)
Innuendoh 6 months ago
i completely agree with what you are saying here. Alex sounds petty in the "interview". It was disgusting to watch. I thought he was transforming in that 4/4 vid series.
Xenthoid 11 months ago
Thanks mate, i think you perfectly summed up the thoughts of 99% of the listeners, in my opinion
careyking777 11 months ago
Thank you sir for your Video
You are an Honest, Forthright, and Honour worthy Man
Note... I am a believer in God and student of the scripture
and a listener of Peter Joseph
Alex Jones... Kiss my ess
norvman 11 months ago
Alex Jones seems to have the same personality type as my mom (ESTJ). This is to say that even if he wasn't religious, it would be hard for him to follow Peter's train of thought, because of his lack of intuitive function. But yes, religion as belief projected to your personal lifestyle is fine, but projected to anyone's and everyone's lifestyle is not. Alex does not follow total truth and rational reasoning.
intjace 11 months ago
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intjace 11 months ago
Alex Jones is ridiculous.
Thumbs up for Peter Joseph!
MonsterJoe1986 11 months ago
Hey Dude nice video, Alex Jones is nothing but a fear monger. What did he get left out of the Masons cause everything according to him is a conspiracy by them to control the world. To the Masons and the United Nations - hey you guys please let Alex Jones play golf with you, so he will not get left out and cry.
MrMickey2000 11 months ago
JOIN THE BOINC PROJECT !
WE NEED TO CONTRIBUTE TOGETHER TO BUILD A SUPER QUANTUM COMPUTER :p
kareldezoonvanbennie 11 months ago
@kareldezoonvanbennie ??
neoneoneofu 11 months ago
O.K. T.J. R.B. Fuller offered an incontestable argument for proof of The Creator in Synergetics. James Clerk Maxwell proved Creationism through Hyperdimensional Physics. Remember Jesus turning the water to wine? He also opened the Door for all of us to whom it had been closed under the Mosaic Law.
hill3141 11 months ago
@hill3141
You're full of shit!
Maxwell proved Creationism? You must pull your head out of your ass (or out of the bible, same thing).
I bet you're not even familiar with Maxwells equations (classical electrodynamics), so you won't impress anyone with "hyperdimesional physics". And synergetics is the theory of nonequilibrium thermodynamical systems, which shows how complexity can arise in simple systems without intelligent intervention (at least it's what synergetics means in science).
neoneoneofu 11 months ago
peter pawns alex jones anyday of the week,Alex jones rants,peter joseph talks.I watch both of these guys and alex jones does have some good material theres no denying there,its just the way he goes about it thats anoying,sometimes i feel embarrassed by listening to alex jones,peter joseph seems far more respectable,and intelligent
eshawckf 11 months ago
Great. Debate, argument, new Ideas. The one thing I fail to see is proposed solutions. Everyone wants to disagree with the opposing viewpoints, but not one of you intelligent, educated, open-eyed individuals have presented anything close to solutions to the problem. Why are we so focused on relieving symptoms that we can't remember the cause of them?
"The significant problems we face as a society cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." - Albert Einstein
skinnychef1620 11 months ago
Good man.
I listen to that interview, and I'll never listen to that pig that goes by the name of Alex Jones ever again.
VitaminsAndPiss 11 months ago
Peter Joseph is a complete hack. Nothing he talks about makes any fucking sense to anyone who knows anything about anything he talks about.
Garmichael1 11 months ago
well said
Bill123etc 11 months ago
I'm sorry but you won't find any directions in the so-called 'zeitgeist movement'. It's actually a Fabian socialist movement, under a more paliatable guise, selling you the UN Agenda 21 for communitarianism,again under different names. You should check that program, now being implemented all over the world,since it's the definite program for global fascism.
But it can be sold via fuzzy appeals for 'community spirit' and 'people power'. They don't show you the brick wall sealing the exit, though.
LibertyTruthJustice 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr Well, then I guess we are all screwed. I don't know who to trust anymore. I wish I was still plugged into the matrix. At least ignorance is bliss.
bmatthews15 1 year ago
Got hurt over his faith being called into question and decided to do a smear job on him.... That's not real enlightened behavior. Not saying hate the guy, but his ego is part of the problem. Peter Joseph is about finding the route causes to issues and fixing them. He deserves a great deal more respect then he's been given.
tiberias111 1 year ago
Man i totally agree with u! I belive
What alex n peter say but some times i fell like they work for the gov two.
hoodninja89 1 year ago
I am going to watch the interview now. I've always thought Alex Jones and George Noary (coast to coast radio) were kind of in the buisness of keeping people scared. Although I think the fear makes you think a little more about your actual situation, and helps people initially open their eyes. Its all "Ying and Yang"
RRyyNNee 1 year ago
@RRyyNNee I think the more level minded approach is more constructive in the long run
AfroBotSays 1 year ago
You seem to mean well, but you need to realize Alex Jones told the truth. The Zeitgeist Movement is pushing for Scientific Communism. Artificial Intelligence, yes intelligent machines, will be in complete control of society, you will not own private property, you will not have money, your entire life will be dictated by resources. The first Zeitgeist tricked a lot of people into thinking it was anti-NWO, but the truth has been revealed in # 2 & 3. Zeitgeist is the NWO.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr I don't know where you get Communism out of TZM at all? But what you don't realize is automation is already coming on it's way and taking over employment more and more everyday. It's just a matter of what systems in place for it to be good or not. And the fact that there's property and money generated out of our monetary system is the reason things are so damn bad. Oh and "NWO" has been here, since debt was invented. So it's not exactly new anymore is it?
worldatlarge77 1 year ago
@worldatlarge77
TZM & VP are pushing for a form of "Scientific Communism", Communism + a Scientific Dictatorship (what we've been warned about and what the elites have wanted for over a hundred years now.) Remember, There's a reason why Peter Joseph & the VP gang is rubbing elbows with royalty and speaking at U.N. sponsored meetings. It's not a coincidence that TZM &VP's plan is remarkably similar to the U.N.'s plan for the future. The Zeitgesit films are NWO propaganda.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr Where are your facts bro? The main point, regardless of what the elites want, is that the current system is not sustainable. Period, end of story. Who gives a fuck about the elites. If we wake up enough people they will have absolutely no power. TZM is a bottom up social movement. We aren't following some supreme leader to the promised land. If the elite try to pull some shit we won't have it.
bmatthews15 1 year ago
@bmatthews15
You completely missed the point. This is what the elites want. Who do you think is behind Agenda 21 & the sustainability movement? Hint: The U.N. It's called Agenda 21 and it was put into effect in 1992 w/out any public input or vote. As I wrote before, there is a reason why P.J. & the VP gang are rubbing elbows w/ royalty & speaking at U.N. sponsored meetings. I've seen the propaganda commercials put out by these groups. (cont.)
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@bmatthews15
In the propaganda commercials, it's the common people, you and I, who pay the price. Money still exists, it's just that it's a cashless society. The rich still exist and the elites still rule the world. The common people live the new sustainabile lifestyles, the elite still live the life they've grown accustomed too.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr propaganda.........you fucking suck ass through a flexible straw
HumanoidMutation 11 months ago
@HumanoidMutation
No, what is propaganda is the Zeitgeist films. It's a classic "bait and switch" scam. Are you tired of the current system? Do you want real change? Are you opposed to the NWO? Then joing with TZM and embrace our vision of the future...which is the NWO. You are being decieved. TZM promotes a form of communism and a scientific dictatorship. On top of that you are beling lied to. There will be money, it's just that it will be a cashless society and the elites will still rule.
TheStarfkr 11 months ago
Peter Joseph for President!
intheevening 1 year ago 27
@intheevening whe for president
ataxy 10 months ago
@intheevening He's not into politics.
BeatnikFromHell666 4 months ago
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intheevening 1 year ago
Great video, I felt the same, lost a ton of respect for Alex, as he resorted to the name calling, subject changing and butting in over Peter. You could really tell he thought it was a contest or game where he was trying to prove he was better and smarter than Peter.
In a way you can see where Alex is coming from, hes been doing this for years, and then some guy out of nowhere makes 2 awesome documentaries that become instant hits, but it's still not acceptable to basically bully your guests.
Blighto2 1 year ago
Great response, Alex jones was off based in that interview! I do think Alex brings a lot of great information I just want to make sure we don't toss the baby out with the bath water.
dynamicwellness33 1 year ago
alex jones phahah what a joke that idiot needs to get HIS HEAD OUT OF HIS butt before he talks about the world getting better
ashman9992 1 year ago
Great video bud...I feel the same way. Alex Jones lost any freethinker to freethinker respect I had for him after that. You could tell he was trying to knock down another person who is competition for him. He showed that he was a crap individual and it sounds like he may be a theist-which explains everything in his attitude.
Jeffersonwazright 1 year ago
After listening to that interview last night for the first time I was utterly exhausted. I could not believe the hysterical, reactionary rhetoric Jones was spouting and then came the 'big kid-little kid' schoolyard bullying...ugly stuff. I would love to see a full transcript of the interview because it is a diamond mine of logical fallacies and rhetorical manoeuvres to look out for in our attempts for dialogue without involvement of ego-identities and the spray-shitting of emotional invective,
alzico 1 year ago
Vatican-Pope-Jesuits-illuminati-NAZIS-CFR (luciferian jews) run the world. All secret societies, organized religions ruled by an elite bloodline, same bloodline ruling from Egypt 2 Rome British (European) Empire - America Empire (1913 Fed Reserve. Presidents & King stand at whim of the real power which is the priest hood (Priests - Bishops - Cardinals - Pope) standing behind the throne - trying to form it's one world luciferian gov't.
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MopDMTBARTL 1 year ago
Agreed! 100% correct! I was disappointed in Alex, too. I believe that Peter Joseph is intelligent and his graciousness shows a lot more class than Alex!
Peter is doing something amazing, supporting, educating about the truth and the heart of the matter that causes our troubles of the world today. Alex is a fool and disrespectful host, especially to someone like Peter, who really deserves a lot more respect. Watch the video and you will see that Peter is the better man in this interview.
ohboymaestro 1 year ago
Agreed! 100% correct! I was disappointed in Alex, too. I believe that Peter Joseph is intelligent and his graciousness shows a lot more class than Alex!
Peter is doing something amazing, supporting, educating about the truth and the heart of the matter that causes our trouble of the world today. Alex is a fool and disrespectful host, especially to someone like Peter, who really deserves a lot more respect. Watch the video and you will see that Peter is the better man in this interview.
ohboymaestro 1 year ago
@spankMAbooTAY Oh and much love to your dog, I love animals too ahahah xD
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
@spankMAbooTAY *people to be divided, that's how they can really control us, by separating us because different age, race, religion, sex, etc... And I believe that we are all connected and we all are God to a certain point, we too can create... But since I don't believe in God I can't say "God bless you" ahaha so yeah, I just wish you and your loved ones a happy life =b
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
@spankMAbooTAY *and will most likely continue... I think that people should really stop blaming others and start looking to themselves. I mean, what is a government without the people? It is nothing. Money, government, autorities, it all exists because we are not self sufficient, we can't manage to be truly free and so we need someone to control and protect us, as long as we stop supporting the bankers and the government they will just fall.. oh and thank you so much =) there is no point for*
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
@spankMAbooTAY Well I've been trying to do the most I can, I've been doing activism in the streets like talking to people about this stuff, etc, with a group here at my country which supports the Zeitgeist Movement... What is really annoying is that everyone thinks the same, everyone wants peace and love and no corruption or greed or hatred, but still things don't ever change, it's always the same, everybody "knows" the truth, everybody has someone to blame, but still, this has been going on*
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
@spankMAbooTAY I'm not american too, and actually I'm too young to vote, I'm going to be 18 in 2 months xD and I didn't say that there is no NWO and Illuminati etc, I'm well aware of them and of course the bankers are ripping us of and I know as soon as I get a job I will only be another wage slave... I just think that alex jones is a hypocrite and is using people, and the only thing I see him doing is shouting at buildings and disbelieving other people that have the same goals as him...
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
@spankMAbooTAY *own research. And I bet a lot of his followers are like the douchebags that voted for bush just because he worships god, those people didn't even know shit about politics and are easily manipulated. And as long as you follow someone blindly and trust every single word he says without questioning it, if you think you know the truth, you're just being manipulated and letting others think for you. The same way government manipulates people....
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
this is some shit triying to defame jones!!!!! fake and gay!! jones is great and can get the mesaje across despite his religion!
dongerado 1 year ago
@dongerado look I'm not trying to defame jones, I bet you all love him and you belive he's a good guy, but he tried to disbelief Zeitgeist when their objective should be the same... We all want a better society free from corruption, there is no need for us to turn against each other like alex jones did...
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
@ItsAllChaos i dont think he iz a good guy... like everyone else that are many things that i dont agree on.
but jones has a better influence on people because the problem is not all forms of religion.. y mean i looked at zeitgeist first and it is good...but jones has done much more.. he opend my eyes to the truth of this planet and i dont like it!!! and every country needs to band together to take back our planet!
dongerado 1 year ago
@dongerado well that's a personal choice, if you like more alex jones, you watch him =P I like more the aproach made by zeitgeist. And people should seriously stop looking only into the religion part in zeitgeist, and start looking at the whole. It doesn't even state that there isn't a god. It just provides some facts, it's just info, it doesn't hurt anyone, and there are a lot of christians that should accept what other people think but they don't, and alex jones is one of them, it's my opinion
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
@dongerado and I agree with you, and it's exactly one of the things that peter joseph meant in the documentary, stop thinking that people are different from each other and start to unite and live in harmony like a global family, without wars over money or religion or race...
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
@spankMAbooTAY he exploits the desire that people have of knowing the truth for personal profit, and is close minded, and tries to destroy anything that goes against his beliefs... I actually think his objectives are good but I don't like his methods. And he has that attitude of someone who thinks that knows the whole truth and is better than everyone else and was sent to save everybody lol when in fact he didn't do shit. He just exploits the fact that people are too fucking lazy to do their*
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
@spankMAbooTAY "honest money"? Man I'm sure he loves what he does but he loves being the center of all attentions and the leader and believe me he doesn't give a fuck about you. That interview just showed the egocentric son of a bitch he is... he wouldn't even let peter joseph express his ideas clearly... and I wouldn't trust someone who follows a fairy tail book
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
Unfortunately most Christians do not practice what they preach. Buddhists and Muslims do a better job of following the teachings of Jesus Christ.
tangel476 1 year ago
@tangel476 indeed. I respect whatever people believe in and I don't care, but most christians know less about christianity than me -.-'
ItsAllChaos 1 year ago
@spankMAbooTAY After watching the interview closely the difference between social progression for the sake of altruism should be clearly outlined. Jones capitalizes of fear mongering and uses base argument to incite entertainment, because otherwise he feels his little radio show isn't interesting enough. Compare the two and see how Joseph keeps his cool with patience, while Jones shouts idiocy, like "I DECLARE ABORTIONS ARE EVIL! YEAAHHH" Completely inappropriate for an intellectual discussion.
MyOnlyFarph 1 year ago
True religion is living without conflict, but religions have created just the opposite throught human history, and are still obviously creating conflict. The problem with religions is that they are full of ideals and ideas. Ideals and ideas give rise to conflict, it is inevitable, because they create conflict between that what is and that what should be. The truth just is, and true religion therefor should be comfortable in what is the truth, instead of that what conflicts with it.
TheOneAndOnlyMichel 1 year ago
all the christians, instead of thinking prefer to go against the free thinking
that's sad, you help to preserve the status quo
i have nothing against the christianity, all my relatives are
but you can be christian, with free thinking, instead of become another sheep, following corrupted governors, corrupted religions, or whatever
opethgarzaMD 1 year ago
why didnt he atleast go with an advertising based income model instead of piad subscriptions
bulletproof2353 1 year ago
why did it take this for everyone to realize this about alex jones
from the minute i went to prisonplanet and saw that it was a pay site i was immediately skeptikal
bulletproof2353 1 year ago 22
Good video. I agree with you about Alex Jones. Alex is a conspiracy theory profiteer. Alex Jones is a pig. Infowars? Alex Jones is soldier for a military and the war is on the public for their money. He sells u partial truths but ultimately he's not interested in fixin the problems on planet earth. Instead he's greedy. Taking as much treasures as he can and stuffing his fat belly. Laughing at all the fools who buy his bullshit. Jones is leading ppl into nowhere land & he's a nowhere man.
MrNikoteen 1 year ago 3
Alex jones is an asshole
ryan69366 1 year ago 2
The blind leading the blind
MrEbabylon 1 year ago
Who is Peter Joseph(creator of zeitgeist movement)?
Great man! Look and judge for yourself. /watch?v=CIINgQ1TooE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
SeeTrue2012 1 year ago
Awesome video!
Just one thing tho, I am no way a "christian" but the bible is still an awesome book with alot of wisdom in it - its just a shame alot of idiots hijacked what it is - just an old book from an older time filled with cool stories and stuff - microcosms, macrocosms, metaphor, allegory, and some historical fact etc... but yeah...
I agree with virtually everything you just said tho...
Peace
JaCorBoar 1 year ago
your daughters are so beautiful, GOD Speed
mrsgmason 1 year ago
Alex Jones is such an idiot. He has no ability to debate rationally, so he shouts over and censors the opposition.
See over 50 Alex Jones exposed on my YouTube channel.
LiquidMetalBand 1 year ago
in glad you made this video. i couldnt agree with you more. jones was certainly out of line the way he acted. Jones missed a whole opportunity to really get to know about peters project. it seemed like jones was constantly asking peter irrelevant questions in a attempt to make peter look foolish and/or biased towards certain things. After listening to peter, I feel he is one of the best philosophers of our time. He certainly makes VERY valid points. Its sad that jones wasted this opportunity
yllierutube 1 year ago
I was just watching the "debate," and I stopped watching when Jones he started going off the way he did. I didn't realize he was so crazy. What the hell is wrong with him?
bakari45 1 year ago
I think Alex Jones is a cointelpro agent ! look how he lied about the William Cooper interview as well as the pro gun rally in Texas and that's two examples.I hear his voice and I turn it off.
slimmerskimmer 1 year ago
he also let me down on that interview
rcvideogamer 1 year ago
Couldn't agree more... great review, m8. Thanks!
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intermitrj 1 year ago
I'm glad this vid is getting the attention it deserves. Jones is an absolute fear-monger and often outright lies and just rolls with his lies.
Condition1Latin 1 year ago
Hmmm what are the chances that the "historians" that dissproved Zeitgeist happen to be religious scholars, ok before I ever even heard of Zeitgeist I read at least 8-10 years ago that the Great Flood and the ark and all that whole story has been told time n time again before the bible
KnifeSniper69 1 year ago
zeitgeist is a new age movie that has all been proven by real historians to be bullshit. Blavotsky is a new age bitch where all this shit was made up from. do your research people. go to the video called zeitgeist refuted on youtube and then go to college so you can really prove it to yourself.
cur2thapur2009 1 year ago
with the best they could mutter with their primative language as there was nothing else to talk about but metaphysics, religion came about accidentally by early mans first attempt to a Grand Unified Theory and according to the scientific method (which brings you just about every cool thing that matters that u ever used) proves God as the answer, a Epic Epic Fail
KnifeSniper69 1 year ago
If man had evolved as they say he had, doesn't it make sense at least a little that they probably would have tried to explain fire,wind,smoke,water,earthquakes,disease,life,death,the sun,stars,planets,...
KnifeSniper69 1 year ago
what people thousands of years ago who hadn't explanations for natural phenomenon and explained them away with elaborate and fanciful fairytale reminiscent stories passed on generation after generation, distorted, twisted, warped to those who were in power at that time wrote.
KnifeSniper69 1 year ago
But then again not steal a quote, "let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater" he (A.J.) does shed light on some important issues but the ones who matter know how to distinguish the difference between the ones who are actively seeking the truth and don't claim to have the answers as opposed to those believe if they just sit back, Jesus or (...)fill in the blank, will take care of you and that he's coming back any day and believe
KnifeSniper69 1 year ago
Same here I used to watch prison planet till this interview with Alex jones, he sounds simply ignorant, closing his mind to new ideas implying he knows the nature of man instead of believing that man can prosper, the planet can heal, we can end hunger, slavery, poverty and the deathhold money and religion have on our planets ppl and resources,... We don't need a God to be moral
KnifeSniper69 1 year ago
I have to admit, I used to watch Alex Jones' videos, but after watching the Peter Joseph interview......it just made me sick to my stomach.
Arrogant, pathetic, unsensable, unreasonable fool.
Pathetic the way he always has to have the last word, he does not accept anyone elses view if its diferent from his.
Alex Jones is a FRAUD.
TheWhiteNoiseWarfare 1 year ago
Having said that, I don't want to "throw the baby out with the bath water" so to speak. Meaning A.J.still may have important information on the state of the world, and what's going on with military, inside sources, NWO, whatever...In spite of his ignorance he has hipped me to alot of info I never knew before.
That's what I do with things/people now a days. No one has all the answers, they just have a "piece" then I add that to my collective mind like a puzzle, and come to my own conclusions.
atlasshrugged2u 1 year ago
Good Goin dude!
Very mindful video and humble apology for ignorant Christians. All the other stuff is God's buisness I don't get into all of that, or I could, but find it exhausting!
The point is "Zeitgeist" is a breath of fresh air! and P.J. is very intelligent and mindful of humanity and people and that's what this is all about.
I am a beleiver and actually "practice what I preach" so I am not ashamed of my faith, but I am ashamed of the people who haphazardly use the "Christ" name.
atlasshrugged2u 1 year ago
i agree
dannyanity 1 year ago
LoL.Yeah,that was two big ego's going at it right there.I appreciate what Jones has to offer and think he's a pretty good guy, yet see that at times,he's an actor,clown.Joseph is way more complicated.Also a good guy,but his game plan is in no way possible.No way.TJ's' right.AJ was the in fight initiator in that one big time.At least they are here doing what they do.I really wish Bill Cooper was still here.That would be great.Being in an environment like I am,the infighting amazes me.So Dumb.
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fittingciobb 1 year ago
Thanks for the info and honest comments.
kashgar22 1 year ago
Good straight-forward analysis and rational, too. Wouldn't surprise me if Alex Jone$ is actually trying to indoctrinate people into the NWO as well and blackmail Peter Joseph.
Donald09231985 1 year ago
@Donald09231985 That's something to think about?...It really is. It's not like something like that isen't possible. Good critical thinking!
See, that's what this is all about; thinking for yourself about things that "could" be possible backed up with "evidence" of course. but good start! :)
atlasshrugged2u 1 year ago
good points man..very funny too.
mychristo1972 1 year ago
gr8 video! thank u Mr Jockey!! im glad u realize that Alex is to Radical....
thatmetalguy85 1 year ago
WELL SAID TRUTHJOCKEY!!! .. Alex Jones is just like his other partners in the extreme right... a lier that instills fear to gain ratings
pwpg06 1 year ago
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TheMiddlebear 1 year ago
I GUESS SOMEONE TOLD PETER JOSEPH THAT THIS WAS AN INTERVIEW AND NOT A "WHO HAS THE BIGGEST DICK" COMPTETITION..
i admire peter joseph's restraint wether he intended it or not.
what a contempt to the listener alex jones is!!!
TheMiddlebear 1 year ago
the comments that come up on the video like god kills its just like what i keep saying.
They shall not kill ummm
allso Death to Non-belivers so kill me then (I'm a none believer just to let you know.).
This is why I don't like religion (i'v got nothing against people that do believe in religion) Since it course's wars ect ect.
Science is the only way forword and progress its the only thing that has helped the human race not religion.
sedgie09 1 year ago