Its nothing new. When I was in high school many years ago my parents thought teachers were teaching crap as well.
Perhaps instead of whining parents should take the time to discuss and go over these things with their kids and be involved with them and not rely on others to teach their kids morals and common sense.
@m8ra1yn1l the textbooks and teachers are not telling students what is Right", they are just teaching kids more than one perspective. they are not lying to children. they are just teaching kids something you dont want them to hear. you dont want them to have the option to make their own informed decisions, yet you would send them to a church and let a church instill things into their young impressionable minds simply because you may agree with what the church is teaching them
@m8ra1yn1l how am I dismissing or ridiculing any student? it seems that you are dismissing the teachers and textbooks because they teach alternate perspective from what you have already taught your children. why dont you stop teaching your kids what glenn beck and hannity tell you to teach them.. why dont you do some research on your own, in an objective manner, setting aside everything that you have been conditioned to perceive. you might learn something about reality.
@BeingNobody1956 You obviously didn't bother to watch the entire video and are making assumptions based on perceptions you've been conditioned to believe. @4:23
if you are hoime teaching your kids then YOU are indoctrinating them. i dont see the difference. I dont have a problem with home schooling but seriously. if you are only teaching your kids what you want them to belive then you are rainsing narrow minded children.
@m8ra1yn1l I didnt say anything at all about who has any authority. you are trying to find some way of accusing me of some form of social ideologist. I am saying that if you are teaching your kids at home it is because you want them to see the world the way you see it, subjectively.. you think that anyone who teaches your kids anything you dont want them to know about is indoctrinating them
@BeingNobody1956 I don't think anyone has proposed to withhold information from children. This is about parents being undermined by the public school system. The textbooks and teachers, whether directly or indirectly, are telling the students what the "right" position is on social issues.
@m8ra1yn1l yet you are unwilling to see that you teaching your kids only what you want them to know and believe is also doctrination. and you sitting there watching beck, hannity and o'rielly everyday is allowing them to indoctrinate you. turn off your tv and radio and reseaerch the world and life yourself..OBJECTIVELY.. you might learn something, mostly about yourself. I dont sit around listening to or watching any talking head, allowing them to influence my thinking or ideology
that's an idiotic statement.....first of all, parents choose to send their kids to church.....parents DO NOT have the same influence over what is in textbooks compared to what church you go to......do you seriously think that these are the same? you are a typical liberal......you probably have no problem with teaching kids about how to have sex in the public schools, but saying the pledge is indoctrination......its your kind that is destroying the foundation of this country.....culture war
@kepr1 so, parents voluntarily send their kids to a church to be indoctrinated then complain about schools indoctrinating their children. you are making a lot of assumptions about me. but the first tyhing I notice is the insulting and name calling..something I do not engage in. you talk about the pledge, but i dont see any difference between having kids say the pledge of allegiance here and what children in china and north korea have to do every morning before school. exactly same thing
You should be able to teach about Socialism but the teacher should never cross the line and promote it as "better" than something else. The more dangerous thing is to have religion taught as "accepted fact" rather than a belief system. I am not a "lib" by the way. I am a moderate who would rather see our children be taught science, critical thinking, and proper grammar. All of these things seem to be the enemies of the modern social conservatives.
Wow the truth hurts huh? This false outrage is sick. The dumb leading the dumber. So Mr. 9-12 project and tea party supporter is against demonstrating?
I am baffled that Beck has any problem with indoctrination, oh wait, it's not his message.
libs like you think that teaching about democracy and thinking for yourself is, in itself, indoctrination. but pushing socialism on children on school is NOT. libs like you lose the debate every time.
@kepr1 if you are sitting around everyday of the week watching beck, o'rielly, limbaugh and hannity then you are not thinking for yourself. i dont watch or listen to any talking head everyday. i do not allow other people to influence my thinking or ideology.
@kepr1 part of thinking for yourself includes learning about things whether we agree or not indoctrination is something everyone goes through including you and me. I did not reply to your second comment.
Its nothing new. When I was in high school many years ago my parents thought teachers were teaching crap as well.
Perhaps instead of whining parents should take the time to discuss and go over these things with their kids and be involved with them and not rely on others to teach their kids morals and common sense.
jdbohdan 10 months ago
@m8ra1yn1l the textbooks and teachers are not telling students what is Right", they are just teaching kids more than one perspective. they are not lying to children. they are just teaching kids something you dont want them to hear. you dont want them to have the option to make their own informed decisions, yet you would send them to a church and let a church instill things into their young impressionable minds simply because you may agree with what the church is teaching them
BeingNobody1956 10 months ago
@BeingNobody1956 So dismissing and ridiculing a student solely on the basis that she has an opposing view isn't imposing a perspective?
m8ra1yn1l 10 months ago
@m8ra1yn1l how am I dismissing or ridiculing any student? it seems that you are dismissing the teachers and textbooks because they teach alternate perspective from what you have already taught your children. why dont you stop teaching your kids what glenn beck and hannity tell you to teach them.. why dont you do some research on your own, in an objective manner, setting aside everything that you have been conditioned to perceive. you might learn something about reality.
BeingNobody1956 10 months ago
@BeingNobody1956 You obviously didn't bother to watch the entire video and are making assumptions based on perceptions you've been conditioned to believe. @4:23
m8ra1yn1l 10 months ago
if you are hoime teaching your kids then YOU are indoctrinating them. i dont see the difference. I dont have a problem with home schooling but seriously. if you are only teaching your kids what you want them to belive then you are rainsing narrow minded children.
BeingNobody1956 10 months ago
so teaching your kids what you think is right is considered indoctrination? maybe by definition...but are you against teaching your kids anything?
kepr1 10 months ago
@BeingNobody1956
Are you trying to say the state has more authority over what children should learn over the parents?
m8ra1yn1l 10 months ago
@m8ra1yn1l I didnt say anything at all about who has any authority. you are trying to find some way of accusing me of some form of social ideologist. I am saying that if you are teaching your kids at home it is because you want them to see the world the way you see it, subjectively.. you think that anyone who teaches your kids anything you dont want them to know about is indoctrinating them
BeingNobody1956 10 months ago
@BeingNobody1956 I don't think anyone has proposed to withhold information from children. This is about parents being undermined by the public school system. The textbooks and teachers, whether directly or indirectly, are telling the students what the "right" position is on social issues.
m8ra1yn1l 10 months ago
@m8ra1yn1l yet you are unwilling to see that you teaching your kids only what you want them to know and believe is also doctrination. and you sitting there watching beck, hannity and o'rielly everyday is allowing them to indoctrinate you. turn off your tv and radio and reseaerch the world and life yourself..OBJECTIVELY.. you might learn something, mostly about yourself. I dont sit around listening to or watching any talking head, allowing them to influence my thinking or ideology
BeingNobody1956 10 months ago
why dont you talk about how churches indoctrinate our children?
BeingNobody1956 10 months ago
that's an idiotic statement.....first of all, parents choose to send their kids to church.....parents DO NOT have the same influence over what is in textbooks compared to what church you go to......do you seriously think that these are the same? you are a typical liberal......you probably have no problem with teaching kids about how to have sex in the public schools, but saying the pledge is indoctrination......its your kind that is destroying the foundation of this country.....culture war
kepr1 10 months ago
@kepr1 so, parents voluntarily send their kids to a church to be indoctrinated then complain about schools indoctrinating their children. you are making a lot of assumptions about me. but the first tyhing I notice is the insulting and name calling..something I do not engage in. you talk about the pledge, but i dont see any difference between having kids say the pledge of allegiance here and what children in china and north korea have to do every morning before school. exactly same thing
BeingNobody1956 10 months ago
You should be able to teach about Socialism but the teacher should never cross the line and promote it as "better" than something else. The more dangerous thing is to have religion taught as "accepted fact" rather than a belief system. I am not a "lib" by the way. I am a moderate who would rather see our children be taught science, critical thinking, and proper grammar. All of these things seem to be the enemies of the modern social conservatives.
MPdinsdale1978 10 months ago
that textbook is ridiculous.....
kepr1 10 months ago 2
@kepr1 Yes it is, but so are the ones the Texas Board of Education approved with glaring fallacies.
MPdinsdale1978 10 months ago
Wow the truth hurts huh? This false outrage is sick. The dumb leading the dumber. So Mr. 9-12 project and tea party supporter is against demonstrating?
I am baffled that Beck has any problem with indoctrination, oh wait, it's not his message.
MPdinsdale1978 10 months ago
libs like you think that teaching about democracy and thinking for yourself is, in itself, indoctrination. but pushing socialism on children on school is NOT. libs like you lose the debate every time.
kepr1 10 months ago
@kepr1 if you are sitting around everyday of the week watching beck, o'rielly, limbaugh and hannity then you are not thinking for yourself. i dont watch or listen to any talking head everyday. i do not allow other people to influence my thinking or ideology.
BeingNobody1956 10 months ago
@kepr1 part of thinking for yourself includes learning about things whether we agree or not indoctrination is something everyone goes through including you and me. I did not reply to your second comment.
newfish09 10 months ago