Is it just me or am I the only one that doesn't see any part of the building below impact falling until the top part falls on it. CD (as seen in the video) cause the whole building to cripple and deform. No deformity on the lower floors of the WTC. You actually contradict your argument, congrats.
LOOK AT WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 !!!. If you don't believe the twin towers fell by demolition, watch WTC7 videos. I posted one on my page. Our government (NIST) says fires caused WTC7 to fall. Fires don't cause steel frame buldings to fall. WTC7 was across the street between 2 other buildings. Recently, a fire in the 50 story Mandarin Hotel in China went out of control. Evey floor burned out of control. All that remained was a steel skeleton. Enjoying the new "antiterrorist" laws yet?
it is also funny how your fucking idiots like to dwell on what you see a similar traits however in your own arguments cannot logically explain the differences. Where is all the "molten metal in the debris" of the CD buildings that you assholes cry about. Why were the CD buildings not turned to complete dust like you assholes say WTC did. Why in the CD do the charges go off and in secs the structure is down but in WTC you cry about bombs going off but the towers stand for an hour. You idiots
ahahhaa what a fucking joke piece of shit this video is. Trying to point out "similarities" between controlled demo and WTC and presenting as if it were conclusive fact to prove CD. ahahahha big shit if you think there were similarities. Lots of things can appear similar. A horse and a zebra or a duck and a goose have similarities but it does not make a horse a zebra or a duck a goose. Shit you truthers are fucking retarded idiots.
@alecboi84 Thats your evidence? That's more conjecture. Sounds like most conspiracy theories. "We don't really understand what happened, so the CIA must have done it." Its clear you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
You're clueless and naive..Judging by your comments I can see you aren't willing to delve deeper into it without prejudice,rationality,or common sense..Your questions are irrelevant since it's been established by so many prominent figures that there in deed is a "NWO" and they use the term loosely & often..An intelligent person can see just by the policies,executive orders, unconstitutional laws,corporate takeover that the very spirit & traditions of America are GONE by design,hence a NWO..
@KidMeatball The uprising was orchestrated by the CIA... ...it's a shame i can't post the link in YT comments..You need to get a life..Our courts can convict on circumstantial evidence & not just hard physical evidence...So does your dumb ass need HARD evidence,or the use of common sense & rationality? If you think our government is righteous,honest,heroes,then you're a schmuck..
@alecboi84 You don't even have circumstantial evidence that says the CIA did it. You have at best, a guess. I'm talking about conjecture. It basically means its plausible, but unprovable. You can't say, "fact: the CIA did it" and not back it up with some kind of evidence. Common sense doesn't cut it. And apologists can rationalist anything, so that fits as conjecture as well.
You're trying to put words in my mouth. I never said anything about any government, good or bad.
@KidMeatball it's a pity that someone who sounds smart can't figure out that we have murderous,treasonous elements within our government..I find it amazing that people like yourself can not see the obvious demolition of the 3 WTC towers or that our CIA(Crack Importing Agency) overthrows sovereign nations & such..It's too bad that YT will not let me post the links in message or comment to give you the EVIDENCE..stop watching fox news,jersey shore & reading popular mechanics or skeptic magazine..
@alecboi84 If the demolition was so obvious, why did the collapse start right where the planes hit? You can't have it both ways. Was it "obvious" or did they deliberately make it look like it was caused by planes? You're running in circles here.
The CIA overthrowing governments (whether they do or not) is moot. You're using it as a distraction to go way off topic. It has no bearing on 911.
@KidMeatball once again,because it was a deceptive demolition..and yes,they want the dumb downed cowards to believe it was caused by planes..you're slowly picking it up..i know it's tough,but you'll get it..i'm running laps around you it's hard for you to digest everything..lol
@alecboi84 Even this video is a great example of why you have it all wrong. None of the comparisons in this video are even remotely similar. In just the first case, the demo'd building shows "squibs" going off before the building starts to fall and the WTC shows the opposite, the building begins to collapse, then "squibs" go off.
They killed 100 birds with one stone..Cause now we lost some of our liberties & rights(I guess that's to protect us from the scary terrorists).. warrant less wiretaps,indefinite detention with no trial,3 aggressive wars & working on more,more federal power,BIG BUCKS for the defense contractors & weapon builders.Gee,did you know DICK Cheney was the CEO of Halliburton right before 9/11 and president?Guess who got the biggest contract?HALIBURTON!!coincidence you say?yeah right.who benefited?
@alecboi84 You want to know what lost liberties are go talk to the rebels in Syria, if you can find any alive. You should be thankful everyday you get to come on these boards and type in anything you want, without even the slightest fear of repercussion. No, you haven't even the slightest idea what lost liberties are.
@KidMeatball ha,you're an American I bet you can't name one right that has been taken from you since 9/11..NAME ONE!..Oh,you can't because you know squat..WATCH,you're going to see very soon what THEY have in store for us..keep denying the TRUTH,stay ignorant & keep your trust in those who lobby for profits & favors not for the people..lol..you really are clueless..And fuck Syria,that was a CIA coup too,and if you can';t see that one you really need a slap in the head...WAKE UP ..
Wait, you're saying the rebels in Syria are really CIA? Or do you mean the CIA is the group that's slaughtering dissidents? Do you even know what's going on there or do you just go to, "CIA did it," without even thinking? You guys have been going on about this, "just wait, they are going to take over the world, NWO! illuminati!" for years, and nothings ever come of it. You guys never fail to find the hardest way from A to B to try to prove your conspiracy.
The chemical analysis of dust fallout samples from the WTC rubble
had shown that the concentration of Strontium and Barium exeded the maximum possible level at least 300 times at epicenter, the other places -40 times. The samples was taken from 35 locations on 0.5-1km radius.
Str. and Bar. are the major elements resulting from uranium fission and highly toxic and are not used anyware in goods.
Yes, the first tower leans slightly, then wow! It leans right back to the middle again and goes straight down. The piece of center column that still stood at the end, more video is available and it shows that piece slowly slide to the side, then straight down woth the rest, it does so in the fasion of the diagonal cutter charge. Kind of like Kennedy's head, back, and to the left...
@roquefortfiles I'm still waiting for you to provide an example of a steel-framed skyscaper collapsing straight down within less than a minute on ANY DAY other than September 11th 2001. Yet, on that one day only, the only day in the entire history of steel-framed architecture, 3 buildings collapsed just like that, But only that day - never before, never after. Amazing! You must believe in MAGIC!
@Orgasmosexicon I am sorry but you can't compare what took place on Sept 11th to ANY other building. The WTC design was UNIQUE. So saying XYZ Bank burned for 6 hours and never collapsed etc.. Is a useless example.. (Kind of like your stories).. There is NO straight across comparison to ANYTHING.. Unless you want to rebuild the WTC and run a plane in to it.. Then YEAH.. you could compare the two. Anything else??
@roquefortfiles Rubbish, it was NOT "unique". They were 3 different buildings of steel-frame. Different design especially for WTC7 vs the Twin Towers. Can't have a magical day excuse for all 3. Doesn't work. Logical fail again. Silly, silly, silly.
@Orgasmosexicon You just answered your own FAIL dude. YES 3 buildings. But comparing those to XYZ Bank that burned for 8 hours and never collapsed...ETC.. as you guys all seem to love to make that comparison.............IS USELESS!! No other buildings had the designs of the WTC.. or 7. Making a comparison to other buildings situation is meaningless unless you want to reconstruct WTC and run a plane in to it. THEN IT WOULD!!
@roquefortfiles Twisting words again? How pathetic. You can't claim the same idiotic excuse for all 3 buildings as their designs were different - the only structural similarity among them is that they were steel-framed skyscrapers - and the designs were very conservative, not special at all. You must be a miracle-theorist; one who believes that miraculously all laws of physics disappeared just for one day, and one day only.
@Orgasmosexicon The only laws that disappeared that day were the laws of sound my friend.. Claiming any of these buildings were chock full of high explosives is nothing short of a joke. To have ABC NEWS standing 800 feet from WTC 2 and have them record NOTHING by way of explosives going off is not possible. Not in anyone's imagination. I know this from first hand experience doing basically the same thing they did.
@roquefortfiles So, you still rely on crap videos with poor sound that you cherry-picked. And you still can't admit how ridiculous you are when claiming that some unique "special" magical exception must be made. That's a weak excuse, like the rest of your arguments. People can look up better sound videos, and the witnesses who were THERE certainly reported the explosions. You have NO first-hand experience; you're just spouting BS like a typical "story-telling" idiot on the internet.
@Orgasmosexicon Crap videos?? No.. And not only that but MULTIPLE camera positions. I can show you the collapse from half a dozen angles all pretty much shot from within 2000 feet (I've measured on Google Earth btw!!) sound travel time 2 seconds TOPS!!.. And NONE of them have charges detonating. One camera not picking up the sound?? Sure!! The odds of half a dozen recording NOTHING?? On linear shaped charges?? !!!
Lottery odds my friend. Its not happening.. 100% absurd.
@roquefortfiles Yes, crap videos - you very typically cherrypicked only those videos with poor sound; your most critical claim is about sound, and yet not only do you refuse to admit the relevance of the witnesses, you intentionally selected videos that have poor sound for the background, filtered so that the reporter is heard and the person that they're talking to. There are videos with unfiltered, uncensored sound - and the explosions are LOUD on those, and people REACT to that sound.
@Orgasmosexicon LOL!! Cherry Picked?? Not at all. They have excellent quality sound. In fact the ambient street sounds are recorded PERFECTLY.. we even hear a helicopter that is BEHIND the towers a considerable distance.. So its sound is reaching the mic no problem.. And not ONE charge detonating is recorded. This is not possible dude!!. I know from first hand experience.
These stories are nothing but ridiculous fantasies for IDIOTS!!
@roquefortfiles Yes, cherrypicked. I've heard videos with far better sound, the explosions clearly audible. Therefore you have cherrypicked those which have been filtered; easy to do that. So, your claim is pointless denial of what can be discovered as fact anyway. Why do you live in that dreamland where witnesses are ignored too? The witnesses reported explosions. That tells everything about the shit quality of sound in those videos of yours.
@roquefortfiles Yes you can, copy it all to your computer, edit the sound, then create another video as the result. Even kids can do it these days. Sound techs were doing it decades ago.
So, why do you ignore the witnesses? You keep doing it! So little respect you have for witnesses who were actually there. All you have is your cherrypicked videos and magical excuses that ignore physics.
@roquefortfiles@roquefortfiles No, you "say" that you know from first-hand experience, but since that's an unsupported claim of expertise it's merely "story-telling". You need to cite real facts to support an argument, not PRETEND that you're an adequate source alone - LOL - You are no expert, you're just some anonymous twit on the internet trying to cite himself as a source. Mad, stupid, and ridiculous.
@Orgasmosexicon 'but since that's an unsupported claim of expertise it's merely "story-telling".' You do exactly the same Orgasmo. You lean on your "degree" and you say things like "math/physics doesn't lie," without backing it up. You're no better.
@KidMeatball ExceptI don't cite my own expertise as a "source", unlike you try to do. Maths and Physics can be checked. A basic understanding of thermodynamics shows that the Twin Towers and WTC 7 collapses are impossible without controlled demolition. Buildings built to support six times their own weight can't go down through their own structure as if it had disappeared; there's RESISTANCE, and it increases the further a collapse proceeds. 1/3rd is not going to crush 2/3rds.
@Orgasmosexicon Now you can just say things like "basic understanding of thermodynamics" without backing it up? I'm sorry, but that wont get you off. Maybe your thermodynamics will give you a rough estimate of how many bombs were used. Care to even guess? Probably not, I'd say.
You still fail to illustrate the opportunity to ever plant bombs of any sort in the towers, yet you say they must have been there. When did they get installed? When, exactly (I want to see numbers here), did they go off?
@KidMeatball You're trying to again avoid the critical failure of your claims; the steel-framed skyscrapers went down in less than a minute. Where's your example of another building doing that without being a controlled demolition? On any day other than 9/11.
@Orgasmosexicon There is a first for everything, no? You can't argue that something is impossible because we've never seen it before.
And you avoid answering questions again. When did the bombs get installed, how many were installed, and when exactly did they go off? The only time any video shows or sounds anything even remotely like an explosion is after the collapse has started. How could such an explosion be said to be the cause, when it looks more like the result?
@KidMeatball No, physics doesn't suddenly drop all the rules one day just because there's a "first time for everything" - absolute nonsense. Face facts, you lost the debate.
@KidMeatball Provide an example to answer mine. But you can't of course. LOL. When the science and evidence gets in the way, you just try to obfuscate, dodge the critical, or divert with unimportant details. If a man was shot dead in front of hundreds of witnesses, you'd insist it was a heart-attack and ignore all the witnesses, bullet wounds, and blood.
@KidMeatball You're ignoring that WTC 7 wasn't hit by a plane, and also that plane impacts have never been shown to have collapsed steel-framed buildings in identical manner to controlled demolitions before. Random damage does not result in symmetrical collapse, ever. Your excuse is just plain silly, and very lame. So, basically, you lose.
@Orgasmosexicon WTC7 was hit by two buildings. Two giant buildings. WTC7 suffered massive damage from the collapse.
The collapses were not symmetrical. You can clearly see the top of the first tower lean as it falls. In good quality videos, you can see much of the core standing for several seconds after the building fell. It was anything but symmetrical.
Again, I answer your question, now answer mine: How many bombs did it take? You should be able to count them, if they showed up on video.
@KidMeatball 1) WTC 7's damage was rather minimal, with small fires. 2) It's collapse was as symmetrical any other controlled demolition - which is impossible without a controlled demolition, since random damage CAN NOT DO THAT. 3) How the building fell was exactly as controlled demolition, therefore it was - the "how" of the charges being laid is utterly irrelevant to the fact that the building went down as a controlled demolition. You can't dodge reality, it happened - deal with that please.
@Orgasmosexicon Its not so much the how the charges were placed, it was how did they go off so silently that really bothers me.
None of the buildings fell symmetrically. In the case of 1 and 2, great sheets of the exterior columns were randomly sloughing off as the floors came down. A jagged part of the core columns stood for several seconds after the bulk of the buildings collapsed. And in both collapses, the tops lean to a particular side at the start of collapse.
@KidMeatball Maybe you should get your hearing checked, or stop trying to pretend that those videos with crap sound are any good. That would fix those delusions. WTC 7 did indeed go down symetrically, straight down into it's footprint as the videos and aerial photos show. You're getting weirder and weirder as you deny such basic facts
@KidMeatball , 400 Connections per floor. Nist admitted Free Fall for 8 stories (105ft), FACT. Buildings 3,4,5 All had worse Fires & damage then 7. Building 3 had almost all of the middle smashed away YET STILL STOOD. This is common sense. *AE911TRUTH* is a Few THOUSAND Experts who proved demolitions in all 3.*Pilots911TRUTH* *Firefighters911TRUTH* * Millitary911TRUTH* *Architects&Engineers911TRUTH*. Slandering Experts would prove one's own stupidity & immaturity.
@Headshothorror4488 You should make a note that wtc 3, 5, and 6 were considerably shorter than the others. It makes a difference, its common sense after all.
@KidMeatball Fire has Never collapsed steel frame high rise building EVER !! CAN NOT !! NEVER HAS IN 200% WORSE & LONGER FIRES, FACT !! WTC 1/2 Both built to take TWO Jumbo Jet hits each, FACT !! Fact remains a few Thousand engineers,architects,physicists,structural engineers,scientists,demo experts ect.. prove demolition in all 3 with science evidence & Laws of physics. I trust Experts, Not Uneducated U Tube Trolls/moms basement D Flunkers.
@Headshothorror4488 So what if a fire has never collapsed a steel building before? By that logic, no event in the future is possible unless we have witnessed it previously.
You don't sound very well educated yourself. You kind of come off as a bit of a basement dweller yourself.
And you got a fact wrong. The towers were designed to take an impact from a single plane, not two each. And I don't think a 707 was ever referred to as a "jumbo jet."
@KidMeatball Uh,do your research better buddy,because you,like all other naive,dumb downed,scared girls are WRONG...Frank D Martini was the WTC construction manager..He died on 9/11..but just a few months before 9/11 in a History channel special about the WTC he stated clearly that "I believe the buildings could sustain MULTIPLE IMPACTS OF JETLINERS." So is he wrong,a conspiracy nut too? YT his name you'll see
@alecboi84 "I believe" and "constructed to withstand" are two vastly different statements. They were designed to take a single hit from a smaller plane. He's probably just trying to brag about his participation in the construction process; he's proud of the buildings, he thinks they can do anything.
If one of the welders on the building told you it could take a hit from the space shuttle, would you believe him?
@KidMeatball "If one of the welders on the building told you it could take a hit from the space shuttle, would you believe him?" and the man that over saw & managed the construction project are two vastly different examples..He knew they would,you're in denial because the moment you realize that you're the crazy one for believing the laughable NIST government shills,you will lose all sense of security and will be too worrisome to watch your MNF,Jersey Shore,jerking off all the time.
@alecboi84 So your answer then is no, you wouldn't believe a welder. Why believe a construction manager?
For one thing, the buildings were designed to withstand a single plane crash, and for another, the design was never tested. So forgive me if the words of a supervisor fall a little flat. What does he know about planes crashing into buildings? He just builds them, he doesn't design and test them. There is a difference.
@KidMeatball Last time I'm going to respond back to trolls..Leslie Robertson was the chief structural engineer for the WTC..He even stated the buildings were built,& I quote "We designed the buildings to take the impact of a 707 hitting the building in any location." Should we talk about Charlie Thornton? You are a tool man,you really are just delaying the inevitable
@alecboi84 still doesn't prove they could take two jet liner impacts. If the buildings could easily survive multipl impacts, why did the collapse start right where the planes impacted?
@KidMeatball Why did it start at the point of impact?BECAUSE IT WAS A DECEPTIVE DEMOLITION YOU DUMB ASS..It was to fool dumb downed idiots like yourself..Damn it was all CONTROLLED!!!
@alecboi84 I wont say you theory is impossible, just extremely unlikely. In this example, if the controlled demo story were true, don't you think it would be easier to just drive a truck full of explosives into the basement, then do your controlled demo. I think it would look more natural. See, you guys are so hung up on the "survive a jetliner impact" thing, you overlook the simple. Anyone who was dreaming up a scenario like this would have thought of that over crashing aircraft into it.
@KidMeatball They would of thought that over crashing aircraft into it????Well how else would they be able to bring in the TSA,Bodyscanners,No fly lists,if the planes never hit the building?Think about this for one second..PNAC(Project for a New American Century)over a year before the attacks think tanks drafted this document and it said "forAmerica to dominate much of humanity and the world’s resources, we need “some catastrophic and catalysing event – like a new Pearl Harbor”..9/11 was that
@alecboi84 All your theory requires is the planes hitting the buildings, and barely threatening the white house. You don't need to rig the buildings with explosives. Just the idea that terrorists could hijack and use the planes as weapons would have been enough justification. All the demolition would accomplish beyond that is thousands dead and injured and a huge mess to clean up.
@KidMeatball and you haven't even addressed the Cheney claim or any other FACT I present..cause you know it's true and I don't believe in coincidences..you're a troll,or just a lame joke...
@alecboi84 Who cares who benefited if it wasn't an inside job? Besides, Haliburton is one of the biggest companies in the world, they can win just about any bid that catches their eye; they don't need the help of a vice-president. Sorry, but you can't win arguments with conjecture.
@KidMeatball Also Dont bother, I dont respond to kids on u tube i trust Experts only. Your opinion dont mean anything to me and is a theory. I trust science,physics and common sense. Who knows who did it but we know it was a demolition and that the nist report is proven false/fraud. Educate yourself or stay in denile i can care less. Experts are speaking out , Experts with degrees already and they cant be slandered. Its no argument anymore its science beats theory *ae911*
@Headshothorror4488 Why did you even comment? If you only trust your so-called experts, why don't you go discuss it with them? I'm sure they'll tell you exactly what you want to hear.
Oh, and by the way, the right side of a flight engineer console has the LANDING GEAR controls, it's been that way since the 1940s, oh "Flight Engineer".
@Merlin5by5 Trust me. There are cams to inspect every meter of ground surrounding the Pentagon.
Yet within minutes the feds conficated the tape from the gas station across the way. All of this after Flight 77 defied the laws of physics. pilot after pilot have gone on record stating the maneuvers were IMPOSSIBLE.
Then we get treated to a few frames of footage showing nothing apart from a white- fart streak. One of he most heavily guarded buildings in the world eh? Pay attention.
@Merlin5by5 Actually, you should see what the Pilots For 9-11 Truth say. They did analsys of the flight recorder data, and that 9-11 review site by claiming the exact opposite of what that fligt recorder data and the witnesses state is simply spreading more disinformation. You fell for the lies, but science busted them.
@Merlin5by5 But still the movement grows, the questions are obvious, unless you're either a shill or a buffoon. judging by your previous spelling I'm willing to guess you're the latter. Failure to pay attention to coincidence and discrepancy is the height of ignorance. The official story has been disproved, even now your own government shit on the medical claims of the rescue workers.
John O'Neil was only one of the give-a way's, for those willing to pay attention.
@Merlin5by5 Vietnam was another bullshit war. What do holograms have anything to do with this?
If you want to put your head in the sand, knock yourself out, if you seriously believe all the questions regarding 9/11 have been answered i pity you. Governments lie, murder and deceive all the time.
Government = to govern mind.
Read A project for a new American century. It was all laid out in there.
Coincidence is what you have left over when you have applied a bad theory
@Merlin5by5 Yup read everything available and it does not add up. You're obviously a moron, engineer my bum-hole, your spelling as atrocious. Physics doesn't lie, apart from on 9/11 of course. Pay attention, the theory put forward on flight 77 alone is absurd. Pilots of many years experience agree, including a personal acquaintance of mine. It was impossible. A bit like your credentials ;D
Next time you open your mouth don't be surprised if dog shit falls out X
@Merlin5by5 How can you be in line with EVERY OTHER engineer when we have a growing movement called - Architects and engineers for 9/11 truth? Not only is your grammar and spelling appalling, your ability to pay attention also seems limited. Don't worry though, better engineers with more experience are looking into these issues. With buffoons like you posing as engineers no wonder questions are asked. Stick to your Lego bricks boy, you don't know what you're talking about.
@Merlin5by5 You're general stupidity is definitely growing that's obvious, so is your anger. Graduates don't have the experience of the willing professionals going forward and stating the obvious flaws in the official theory do they? Sheesh. Once again you fail to understand the point, after all it was you who stated that you were in line with EVERY OTHER ENGINEER on these views. You have a short memory as well, your list of flaws knows no end, a bit list the NIST report. Try harder :D
@Merlin5by5 NIST report has holes so big in it you could literally fly a plane through them. Unlike the Pentagon eh? I already told you i read the reports. You really should stop worrying about Richard Gage's bum-hole and try to pay attention.
If you're an engineer I'm a cosmonaut, thanks for the laughs
@Merlin5by5 Not as small as your understanding of English and common-sense it would seem. I also enjoy your channel, disabled comments unless they happen to agree with you! Hilarious shill :D
You must be worried about something. Go and dust off your NIST report and read it again, give me a shout if you need help with any of the big words.
@Merlin5by5 I don't need to get post any facts to you, i understand your game. I was given eyes to see sister, and i understand the nature of Government. As i already told you, if you cannot see any problems or flaws with the official theory you are truly ignorant or blind. No questions remain huh?
You get back to me with your theory on John O'Neil or Scott Forbes interview, just more coincidence is it?
I really can't be bothered debating with a shill, a really bad shill at that. Cheers
@Merlin5by5 Calls someone a dumb-fuck and struggles with basic English. You're hilarious.
The attacks were a fraud, endless war is the game, classic false flag.You're a classic shill. Better, more intelligent people than you posting here agree with me, not you :D Go and get one of your shill partners to help you out here, you seem to be struggling. Gary Corbett was another liar was he?
Oh by the way Scott Forbes isn't dead. You're answers are truly laughable, a bit like your channel X
@Merlin5by5 You claimed he was dead, you're a liar. End of argument. Plus you were busted, you only checked Scott Forbes testimony after i mentioned it. You then went and watched his interview and spewed your vile garbage on said video. you're an idiot.
@Merlin5by5 That's not "fact", it's just you being an insulting idiot who doesn't want anyone to deal with the real world. Only kooks here are on your side of the fence, the rest of us look at you like the brainless fools you are.
@Merlin5by5 No, the USA has created only puppet regimes with rigged elections at best. Death squads are not needed in true democracies, nor political oppression. The Arab world is demanding the USA get out of the Arab world, the USA/UK are trying to falsely claim that the people want the USA - NO THEY DON'T.
@DirkandJeanneHome Fuck the USA as it is now man, don't fuck the belief. It's up to America to turn this shit around, if enough people wake up, if The USA can rise again, they have the power to end this approaching shit-storm. Admittedly it will take a miracle, but some argue that 2012 is going to be the year for miracles. Lady liberty hold the torch forward for a reason and it's up to the citizens of the USA to get behind her again and vanquish the night. Good luck to you and yours bro
@DirkandJeanneHome The USA has been destroyed by design as I'm sure you're aware, just like the world economy. They have technology that could set the species free, but instead we have to endure what is now unfolding. Did you ever see or hear any UFO stories while you were in the AF? :D
@DirkandJeanneHome What's wrong with people man? Where is it all heading, how can so many remain so ignorant? I give up now, i live in isolation because of my views on these issue. i know it could all be different for everyone. Civilization is sleepwalking into oblivion and in many respects 9/11 is just the tip of the iceberg.
I'm surrounded by idiots, surrounded by ignorance. Humanity should be better than this, we as a collective and as individual beings need to evolve quickly. Peace out.
@MrDarkTides No, you're hassled by puppet accounts, paid shills, and a few brainwashed morons. That's all. Talk to the people in the street, the vast majority DO NOT accept the USA govt's piles of lies about 9/11
This just in, demolition experts are now switching to jet fuel and fires to bring down large skyscraper buildings efficiently!! A word now from one of these experts, "...on 9/11 jet fuel and fire and its chemical makeup changed dramatically, we're puzzled by this but really excited to save so much money from now on" Look, he said, showing a side by side comparison", these buildings fall the same way! ...Jim, back to you.
I don't think that the controlled demolitions ever had Anything to hide from Anyone- so they are able to detonate their explosives in plain sight (sound and ALL). After having seen professional CDs and doing some research, I cannot believe that I too, fell for the explanations that was given to me on 9/11. So sad to see that, even though I try to explain this to my family and friends, they too are sold on the idea that a plane and fire brought down the WTCs- although they did not know of WTC 7.
@Merlin5by5 There wouldn't have been 100 tonnes of thermate, there would only need to be 10 tonnes, and compared to millions of tonners of debris, that's tiny. That's why it took experts to find the traces; which they DID. So deal with the fact.
@Merlin5by5 Fine it's not "your" claim, but it's still ridiculously WRONG and nothing more than stupid exaggeration. You believed it because you don't anything more than insulting people, watching Fox News and MTV, I've done the calculations too, the figure is more than ten tonnes. Even 3 tonnes would've been sufficient to take those buildings down, and there was clearly other forms of demolition explosives used; easy to hide because of maintenance levels.
@Merlin5by5 There wouldn't have been 100 tonnes of thermate, there would only need to be 10 tonnes, and compared to millions of tonners of debris, that's tiny. That's why it took experts to find the traces; which they DID. So deal with the fact.
That excuse is rubbish for numerous reasons; firstly, your unsupported claim that there were would be enough Barium Nitrate to be detectable, when it's known by experts that less than ten tonnes of thermate would be all that was needed. Compared to millions of tonnes of debris, which is why it required other experts to find the traces of thermate - which they DID, The evidence WAS found, and it's widely known now. There are peer-reviewed papers already published on the subject, so deal wit it.
i do not see similarities. esp. i can't hear any sound of explosions (u probably turned it off for a reason). plus, the wtc collapses top first, while the other buildings start collapsing as a whole from the bottom up. it's different with WTC7, as it seems to collapse from bottom up. i'd like to know why. the problem with u guys is, noone can take you serious, even if u state justified doubts, cause u are totally biased against reality. WTC1+2 went down cause planes full of fuel hit them!!
@xmiraculix82 And obama isn't related to mcaine, and mcaine isn't related to bush..............your government has no reson to lie to you bro.....drink some more flouride, and injest some more aspartame.....look ! Footballs on !!!!
This video is a FAIL!! The big key here is the audio. The WTC collapses out of total silence. Go and watch ABC News shoot from across the street. Not a sound is heard prior to the collapse. A controlled demolition's linear charges would blow your eardrums out from that range. There is another video showing the WTC for almost 3 mins prior to collapse, only blocks away. Not a sound is heard.
This is simply impossible for it to be a "Controlled Demo"
@Orgasmosexicon LOL.. nothing doing dude!! I know what shaped charges sound like close up.. Been there done that.. There is the sound of the tower collapsing for sure.. There ain't no linear shaped charges going off.. Not even close!!!.. Not even REMOTELY close!!
@roquefortfiles Then LOOK for a video with real SOUND. Simple. There are a few around, and I know what they sound like too. The sound on those videos is exactly like that of controlled demolitions. The videos that the corporate media in the USA kept showing had the sound muffled for the background, but other videos do not.
@Orgasmosexicon Buuuuull SHIT!! Then send it to me!!.. I can show you a dozen videos that record the ambient street sounds PERFECTLY and not one peep coming from the tower.. Go check out Trinity Church vid. Shot from in front of Trinity church. We hear the surrounding people talking with no problem and the tower burning about 1500 feet away (i measured).. not a sound comes from it. Or check out Cameraplanet.. The same thing..
@Orgasmosexicon Those aren't shaped charges!! Its nothing but compressed air being ejected.
Don't quite know how argue with the Chief of the FDNY standing in front of 7 and hearing nothing. There is another fireman.. a grunt.. who said he heard nothing as it fell.. You're not going to have a few people hear this and others are not... NO WAY!! Been there done that. Everyone in lower Manhattan would be aware of this if it were a CD..
@roquefortfiles Rubbish! Stop repeating crap excuses that don't work anyway. Compressed air does NOT annihiliate concrete from a simple gravitational collapse. Lots of people were aware it was CD, that came out ages ago, Why deny it? Is feigning blindness and utter ignorance your only fall-back?
@Orgasmosexicon LOL!! I got news for you!! Explosives don't annihilate concrete either.. Nor are they used for that. The buildings don't even fall in a manner of a CD.. You don't know what you are talking about so don't try. The collapse would look ENTIRELY different with explosive involved.
@roquefortfiles Sure, sure, and bombs don't destroy buildings - everything bombed in wars just stays there undamaged, not a scratch, right? Ah, but the buildings DO FALL EXACTLY LIKE A CONTROLLED DEMO. Sorry, that's the way it is, you and other nitwit losers can pretend all day long whatever you want, doesn't change reality. Try again; simple denials only make you look idiotic.
@Orgasmosexicon No they don't!! Not even close!! One charge sufficient to cut one column in this building would blow ALL the glass out of the windows. WITH EASE!! Never happened!! and this thing had 47 internal columns.. Denials?? I speak from experience dude!! The truck bomb in 93 had one of the largest blast over pressures. An enormous bomb. It did not turn concrete to powder.
What chance do you think a floor of concrete stands against 30 stories landing on it?
@roquefortfiles I'm beginning to believe you speak not from experience, but just from repetition of nonsense. The truck bomb only had an estimated 3 tonnes of explosive in a truck, the intention being a "bomb", not a demolition charge. That's why it didn't turn concrete to power - but you now admit that much of the concrete in the WTC Twin Towers was turned to powder. Interesting, Are you going to next claim that magic did it? What of the storeys on the top of that 30 storeys? Your logic fails.
@Orgasmosexicon Well what do you have to say to Les Robertson the guy who built the structure... calculated the load distributions.. And had this to say on its failure..
"There is no way one floor is going to hold 14 or more stories landing on it.. not possible.. it would collapse instantly and to the foundations"... (end)
Btw.. Les is a whole lot smarter than you will ever be.
Come up with something intelligent against that!!!.. I can't wait
@roquefortfiles Argument by authority doesn't defeat physics, and physics demonstrates mathematically that no gravitational collapse would've provided enough energy to destroy those buildings. Your use of Robertson's words out of context reveals you're a rather stupid man who needs other words, but doesn't understand them
@Orgasmosexicon Using his words out of context?? LOL!!! Your really sad dude.. I know the clip very well. It was quoted almost verbatim to his reply to that other "TM" whacko Steven Jones.
Physics??? Floors don't hold vertical loads. The columns do. Every floor has a load limit. The WTC was about 1500 tons per floor. What do you think is going to happen to that limit when it is hit with 180,000 tons in motion after the ext columns have buckled and failed??
@roquefortfiles Yes, exactly what you tried to pull. You apparently don't know any physics at all. Do you even UNDERSTAND what a gravitationally-driven collapse is? I bet you have to look it up on Google. The math's quite easy if you have a degree that's appropriate - I do. Calling other people whackos, I only see you being a whacko. Insults and out-of-context quotes don't convince anyone. Try to study the subject beofre you simply repeat crap from other smarter people than you.
@Orgasmosexicon Oh you have a physics degree?? (and a superiority complex) well it should be much easier for you to understand then.. What part of a floor having a 1500 ton load limit did you not understand?? And the quote is NOT out of context so shove dude if you want to play that stupid game. And yes i understand physics VERY well.
Gravitational collapse?? Yeah that happens when 1/3 of the building is set free to drop on members only rated for a 10th of that weight..
@roquefortfiles Yes I do. You apparently still don't know anything more to recycle the same old debunked excuses without learning a thing. The quote IS "out of context", simply claiming it's not proves nothing except your lack of imagination, your lack of research, and your lack of comprehension of why your claims are so ridiculous
Nothing was found.!!! And you can't simply explain that away. Teams of CD techs were there. Not one blasting cap.. fuse element...was even seen. This material would be everywhere. And I am sorry but you don't have professional news cameras standing 800 feet away and have them record nothing.. Its not happening dude.. I have had EXACTLY the same experience. Its a load of bollocks only idiots buy in to who don't know any better
@roquefortfiles Rubbish! They were NOT looking it. Your excuse fails for another reason too; the obvious cover-up in the orders to dispose of the material evidence, getting rid of all the steel, without almost none for research. oh, and the cameras recorded a lot; angle-cut steel, molten metal, debris smashed into such tiny pieces that only explosives could explain it. Perhaps the problem is that idiots like you prefer to ignore what's right in front of your face, or want others to do so.
@Orgasmosexicon Ahhhhh blocked am I? Packing up your toys and leaving the sandbox eh? No balls to listen to someone with a little knowledge on the topic?? Your so out to lunch on this but the sad part is that you really don't realize HOW MUCH!!
Your stories are ridiculous. And so are you. Mr Orgasmosexicon. Why don't you post on a porn site instead?
Is it just me or am I the only one that doesn't see any part of the building below impact falling until the top part falls on it. CD (as seen in the video) cause the whole building to cripple and deform. No deformity on the lower floors of the WTC. You actually contradict your argument, congrats.
SxyArmyJuggalo 5 days ago
LOOK AT WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 !!!. If you don't believe the twin towers fell by demolition, watch WTC7 videos. I posted one on my page. Our government (NIST) says fires caused WTC7 to fall. Fires don't cause steel frame buldings to fall. WTC7 was across the street between 2 other buildings. Recently, a fire in the 50 story Mandarin Hotel in China went out of control. Evey floor burned out of control. All that remained was a steel skeleton. Enjoying the new "antiterrorist" laws yet?
cgmaxed 3 weeks ago
it is also funny how your fucking idiots like to dwell on what you see a similar traits however in your own arguments cannot logically explain the differences. Where is all the "molten metal in the debris" of the CD buildings that you assholes cry about. Why were the CD buildings not turned to complete dust like you assholes say WTC did. Why in the CD do the charges go off and in secs the structure is down but in WTC you cry about bombs going off but the towers stand for an hour. You idiots
12weasel100 3 weeks ago
ahahhaa what a fucking joke piece of shit this video is. Trying to point out "similarities" between controlled demo and WTC and presenting as if it were conclusive fact to prove CD. ahahahha big shit if you think there were similarities. Lots of things can appear similar. A horse and a zebra or a duck and a goose have similarities but it does not make a horse a zebra or a duck a goose. Shit you truthers are fucking retarded idiots.
12weasel100 3 weeks ago
AT 1:16 if you look to the right you see a hole and then it explodes.
allan7786 3 weeks ago
Well done!
Snowman374th 1 month ago
Watch this /watch?v=qFpbZ-aLDLY explains 911 lies nuff said
Dantedijon 1 month ago
The uprising was orchestrated by the CIA...
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 Thats your evidence? That's more conjecture. Sounds like most conspiracy theories. "We don't really understand what happened, so the CIA must have done it." Its clear you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
You're clueless and naive..Judging by your comments I can see you aren't willing to delve deeper into it without prejudice,rationality,or common sense..Your questions are irrelevant since it's been established by so many prominent figures that there in deed is a "NWO" and they use the term loosely & often..An intelligent person can see just by the policies,executive orders, unconstitutional laws,corporate takeover that the very spirit & traditions of America are GONE by design,hence a NWO..
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 I've addressed your comments reasonably, and you just dodge and dodge. What exactly did the CIA do in Syria? Plain and simple.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball they helped the "rebels"
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 your evidence?
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball The uprising was orchestrated by the CIA... ...it's a shame i can't post the link in YT comments..You need to get a life..Our courts can convict on circumstantial evidence & not just hard physical evidence...So does your dumb ass need HARD evidence,or the use of common sense & rationality? If you think our government is righteous,honest,heroes,then you're a schmuck..
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 You don't even have circumstantial evidence that says the CIA did it. You have at best, a guess. I'm talking about conjecture. It basically means its plausible, but unprovable. You can't say, "fact: the CIA did it" and not back it up with some kind of evidence. Common sense doesn't cut it. And apologists can rationalist anything, so that fits as conjecture as well.
You're trying to put words in my mouth. I never said anything about any government, good or bad.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball it's a pity that someone who sounds smart can't figure out that we have murderous,treasonous elements within our government..I find it amazing that people like yourself can not see the obvious demolition of the 3 WTC towers or that our CIA(Crack Importing Agency) overthrows sovereign nations & such..It's too bad that YT will not let me post the links in message or comment to give you the EVIDENCE..stop watching fox news,jersey shore & reading popular mechanics or skeptic magazine..
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 If the demolition was so obvious, why did the collapse start right where the planes hit? You can't have it both ways. Was it "obvious" or did they deliberately make it look like it was caused by planes? You're running in circles here.
The CIA overthrowing governments (whether they do or not) is moot. You're using it as a distraction to go way off topic. It has no bearing on 911.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball once again,because it was a deceptive demolition..and yes,they want the dumb downed cowards to believe it was caused by planes..you're slowly picking it up..i know it's tough,but you'll get it..i'm running laps around you it's hard for you to digest everything..lol
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 Even this video is a great example of why you have it all wrong. None of the comparisons in this video are even remotely similar. In just the first case, the demo'd building shows "squibs" going off before the building starts to fall and the WTC shows the opposite, the building begins to collapse, then "squibs" go off.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
They killed 100 birds with one stone..Cause now we lost some of our liberties & rights(I guess that's to protect us from the scary terrorists).. warrant less wiretaps,indefinite detention with no trial,3 aggressive wars & working on more,more federal power,BIG BUCKS for the defense contractors & weapon builders.Gee,did you know DICK Cheney was the CEO of Halliburton right before 9/11 and president?Guess who got the biggest contract?HALIBURTON!!coincidence you say?yeah right.who benefited?
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 You want to know what lost liberties are go talk to the rebels in Syria, if you can find any alive. You should be thankful everyday you get to come on these boards and type in anything you want, without even the slightest fear of repercussion. No, you haven't even the slightest idea what lost liberties are.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball ha,you're an American I bet you can't name one right that has been taken from you since 9/11..NAME ONE!..Oh,you can't because you know squat..WATCH,you're going to see very soon what THEY have in store for us..keep denying the TRUTH,stay ignorant & keep your trust in those who lobby for profits & favors not for the people..lol..you really are clueless..And fuck Syria,that was a CIA coup too,and if you can';t see that one you really need a slap in the head...WAKE UP ..
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 Not American, sorry.
Wait, you're saying the rebels in Syria are really CIA? Or do you mean the CIA is the group that's slaughtering dissidents? Do you even know what's going on there or do you just go to, "CIA did it," without even thinking? You guys have been going on about this, "just wait, they are going to take over the world, NWO! illuminati!" for years, and nothings ever come of it. You guys never fail to find the hardest way from A to B to try to prove your conspiracy.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
An absolutely useless video. None of the buildings share the architectural design of the WTC. You're comparing apples to oranges.
WasteOtime
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
nucleardemolition.+com,GZero_Report.pdf
, - is a slash
NewHastaLuego 4 months ago
That was a nu clear demolition.
The chemical analysis of dust fallout samples from the WTC rubble
had shown that the concentration of Strontium and Barium exeded the maximum possible level at least 300 times at epicenter, the other places -40 times. The samples was taken from 35 locations on 0.5-1km radius.
Str. and Bar. are the major elements resulting from uranium fission and highly toxic and are not used anyware in goods.
NewHastaLuego 4 months ago
Yes, the first tower leans slightly, then wow! It leans right back to the middle again and goes straight down. The piece of center column that still stood at the end, more video is available and it shows that piece slowly slide to the side, then straight down woth the rest, it does so in the fasion of the diagonal cutter charge. Kind of like Kennedy's head, back, and to the left...
AlienHeyzeuse 4 months ago
@roquefortfiles I'm still waiting for you to provide an example of a steel-framed skyscaper collapsing straight down within less than a minute on ANY DAY other than September 11th 2001. Yet, on that one day only, the only day in the entire history of steel-framed architecture, 3 buildings collapsed just like that, But only that day - never before, never after. Amazing! You must believe in MAGIC!
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon I am sorry but you can't compare what took place on Sept 11th to ANY other building. The WTC design was UNIQUE. So saying XYZ Bank burned for 6 hours and never collapsed etc.. Is a useless example.. (Kind of like your stories).. There is NO straight across comparison to ANYTHING.. Unless you want to rebuild the WTC and run a plane in to it.. Then YEAH.. you could compare the two. Anything else??
Waste O Time. (Sort of like you)
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Rubbish, it was NOT "unique". They were 3 different buildings of steel-frame. Different design especially for WTC7 vs the Twin Towers. Can't have a magical day excuse for all 3. Doesn't work. Logical fail again. Silly, silly, silly.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon You just answered your own FAIL dude. YES 3 buildings. But comparing those to XYZ Bank that burned for 8 hours and never collapsed...ETC.. as you guys all seem to love to make that comparison.............IS USELESS!! No other buildings had the designs of the WTC.. or 7. Making a comparison to other buildings situation is meaningless unless you want to reconstruct WTC and run a plane in to it. THEN IT WOULD!!
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Twisting words again? How pathetic. You can't claim the same idiotic excuse for all 3 buildings as their designs were different - the only structural similarity among them is that they were steel-framed skyscrapers - and the designs were very conservative, not special at all. You must be a miracle-theorist; one who believes that miraculously all laws of physics disappeared just for one day, and one day only.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon The only laws that disappeared that day were the laws of sound my friend.. Claiming any of these buildings were chock full of high explosives is nothing short of a joke. To have ABC NEWS standing 800 feet from WTC 2 and have them record NOTHING by way of explosives going off is not possible. Not in anyone's imagination. I know this from first hand experience doing basically the same thing they did.
Shaped Charges? high explosives?? Not recorded??
Not possible.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles So, you still rely on crap videos with poor sound that you cherry-picked. And you still can't admit how ridiculous you are when claiming that some unique "special" magical exception must be made. That's a weak excuse, like the rest of your arguments. People can look up better sound videos, and the witnesses who were THERE certainly reported the explosions. You have NO first-hand experience; you're just spouting BS like a typical "story-telling" idiot on the internet.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Crap videos?? No.. And not only that but MULTIPLE camera positions. I can show you the collapse from half a dozen angles all pretty much shot from within 2000 feet (I've measured on Google Earth btw!!) sound travel time 2 seconds TOPS!!.. And NONE of them have charges detonating. One camera not picking up the sound?? Sure!! The odds of half a dozen recording NOTHING?? On linear shaped charges?? !!!
Lottery odds my friend. Its not happening.. 100% absurd.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Yes, crap videos - you very typically cherrypicked only those videos with poor sound; your most critical claim is about sound, and yet not only do you refuse to admit the relevance of the witnesses, you intentionally selected videos that have poor sound for the background, filtered so that the reporter is heard and the person that they're talking to. There are videos with unfiltered, uncensored sound - and the explosions are LOUD on those, and people REACT to that sound.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon LOL!! Cherry Picked?? Not at all. They have excellent quality sound. In fact the ambient street sounds are recorded PERFECTLY.. we even hear a helicopter that is BEHIND the towers a considerable distance.. So its sound is reaching the mic no problem.. And not ONE charge detonating is recorded. This is not possible dude!!. I know from first hand experience.
These stories are nothing but ridiculous fantasies for IDIOTS!!
You live in dreamland my friend.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Yes, cherrypicked. I've heard videos with far better sound, the explosions clearly audible. Therefore you have cherrypicked those which have been filtered; easy to do that. So, your claim is pointless denial of what can be discovered as fact anyway. Why do you live in that dreamland where witnesses are ignored too? The witnesses reported explosions. That tells everything about the shit quality of sound in those videos of yours.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Filtered?? you cant isolate audio recorded on to one track you pin head.
Dude.. you're really trying but its all quite pathetic. You're not fooling anyone but yourself.
We are talking about high explosives here. Not a firecracker under a book.
You want to know what linear shaped charges would sound like had they been in the WTC??
Like this!!
watch?v=obJe66QHx_Y&feature=related
Now tell me a news crew 800 feet from this are going to record nothing?
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Yes you can, copy it all to your computer, edit the sound, then create another video as the result. Even kids can do it these days. Sound techs were doing it decades ago.
So, why do you ignore the witnesses? You keep doing it! So little respect you have for witnesses who were actually there. All you have is your cherrypicked videos and magical excuses that ignore physics.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Who are you kidding? Not me. I have been there dude. I know what I am talking about from first hand experience.
Your stories about sound etc are nonsense. I know it and you know it.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles @roquefortfiles No, you "say" that you know from first-hand experience, but since that's an unsupported claim of expertise it's merely "story-telling". You need to cite real facts to support an argument, not PRETEND that you're an adequate source alone - LOL - You are no expert, you're just some anonymous twit on the internet trying to cite himself as a source. Mad, stupid, and ridiculous.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon 'but since that's an unsupported claim of expertise it's merely "story-telling".' You do exactly the same Orgasmo. You lean on your "degree" and you say things like "math/physics doesn't lie," without backing it up. You're no better.
KidMeatball 5 months ago
@KidMeatball ExceptI don't cite my own expertise as a "source", unlike you try to do. Maths and Physics can be checked. A basic understanding of thermodynamics shows that the Twin Towers and WTC 7 collapses are impossible without controlled demolition. Buildings built to support six times their own weight can't go down through their own structure as if it had disappeared; there's RESISTANCE, and it increases the further a collapse proceeds. 1/3rd is not going to crush 2/3rds.
Orgasmosexicon 4 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Now you can just say things like "basic understanding of thermodynamics" without backing it up? I'm sorry, but that wont get you off. Maybe your thermodynamics will give you a rough estimate of how many bombs were used. Care to even guess? Probably not, I'd say.
You still fail to illustrate the opportunity to ever plant bombs of any sort in the towers, yet you say they must have been there. When did they get installed? When, exactly (I want to see numbers here), did they go off?
KidMeatball 4 months ago
@KidMeatball You're trying to again avoid the critical failure of your claims; the steel-framed skyscrapers went down in less than a minute. Where's your example of another building doing that without being a controlled demolition? On any day other than 9/11.
Orgasmosexicon 4 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon There is a first for everything, no? You can't argue that something is impossible because we've never seen it before.
And you avoid answering questions again. When did the bombs get installed, how many were installed, and when exactly did they go off? The only time any video shows or sounds anything even remotely like an explosion is after the collapse has started. How could such an explosion be said to be the cause, when it looks more like the result?
KidMeatball 4 months ago
@KidMeatball No, physics doesn't suddenly drop all the rules one day just because there's a "first time for everything" - absolute nonsense. Face facts, you lost the debate.
Orgasmosexicon 4 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Answer my questions, then we'll see who lost.
KidMeatball 4 months ago
@KidMeatball Provide an example to answer mine. But you can't of course. LOL. When the science and evidence gets in the way, you just try to obfuscate, dodge the critical, or divert with unimportant details. If a man was shot dead in front of hundreds of witnesses, you'd insist it was a heart-attack and ignore all the witnesses, bullet wounds, and blood.
Orgasmosexicon 4 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon You know there are no examples of another building like the WTC collapsing after being hit with a plane. How can I provide an example?
Now, having got past your latest dodge, answer my questions.
KidMeatball 4 months ago
@KidMeatball You're ignoring that WTC 7 wasn't hit by a plane, and also that plane impacts have never been shown to have collapsed steel-framed buildings in identical manner to controlled demolitions before. Random damage does not result in symmetrical collapse, ever. Your excuse is just plain silly, and very lame. So, basically, you lose.
Orgasmosexicon 4 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon WTC7 was hit by two buildings. Two giant buildings. WTC7 suffered massive damage from the collapse.
The collapses were not symmetrical. You can clearly see the top of the first tower lean as it falls. In good quality videos, you can see much of the core standing for several seconds after the building fell. It was anything but symmetrical.
Again, I answer your question, now answer mine: How many bombs did it take? You should be able to count them, if they showed up on video.
KidMeatball 4 months ago
@KidMeatball 1) WTC 7's damage was rather minimal, with small fires. 2) It's collapse was as symmetrical any other controlled demolition - which is impossible without a controlled demolition, since random damage CAN NOT DO THAT. 3) How the building fell was exactly as controlled demolition, therefore it was - the "how" of the charges being laid is utterly irrelevant to the fact that the building went down as a controlled demolition. You can't dodge reality, it happened - deal with that please.
Orgasmosexicon 4 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Its not so much the how the charges were placed, it was how did they go off so silently that really bothers me.
None of the buildings fell symmetrically. In the case of 1 and 2, great sheets of the exterior columns were randomly sloughing off as the floors came down. A jagged part of the core columns stood for several seconds after the bulk of the buildings collapsed. And in both collapses, the tops lean to a particular side at the start of collapse.
KidMeatball 4 months ago
@KidMeatball Maybe you should get your hearing checked, or stop trying to pretend that those videos with crap sound are any good. That would fix those delusions. WTC 7 did indeed go down symetrically, straight down into it's footprint as the videos and aerial photos show. You're getting weirder and weirder as you deny such basic facts
Orgasmosexicon 4 months ago
@KidMeatball , 400 Connections per floor. Nist admitted Free Fall for 8 stories (105ft), FACT. Buildings 3,4,5 All had worse Fires & damage then 7. Building 3 had almost all of the middle smashed away YET STILL STOOD. This is common sense. *AE911TRUTH* is a Few THOUSAND Experts who proved demolitions in all 3.*Pilots911TRUTH* *Firefighters911TRUTH* * Millitary911TRUTH* *Architects&Engineers911TRUTH*. Slandering Experts would prove one's own stupidity & immaturity.
Headshothorror4488 2 months ago
@Headshothorror4488 You should make a note that wtc 3, 5, and 6 were considerably shorter than the others. It makes a difference, its common sense after all.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball Fire has Never collapsed steel frame high rise building EVER !! CAN NOT !! NEVER HAS IN 200% WORSE & LONGER FIRES, FACT !! WTC 1/2 Both built to take TWO Jumbo Jet hits each, FACT !! Fact remains a few Thousand engineers,architects,physicists,structural engineers,scientists,demo experts ect.. prove demolition in all 3 with science evidence & Laws of physics. I trust Experts, Not Uneducated U Tube Trolls/moms basement D Flunkers.
Headshothorror4488 2 months ago
@Headshothorror4488 So what if a fire has never collapsed a steel building before? By that logic, no event in the future is possible unless we have witnessed it previously.
You don't sound very well educated yourself. You kind of come off as a bit of a basement dweller yourself.
And you got a fact wrong. The towers were designed to take an impact from a single plane, not two each. And I don't think a 707 was ever referred to as a "jumbo jet."
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball Uh,do your research better buddy,because you,like all other naive,dumb downed,scared girls are WRONG...Frank D Martini was the WTC construction manager..He died on 9/11..but just a few months before 9/11 in a History channel special about the WTC he stated clearly that "I believe the buildings could sustain MULTIPLE IMPACTS OF JETLINERS." So is he wrong,a conspiracy nut too? YT his name you'll see
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 "I believe" and "constructed to withstand" are two vastly different statements. They were designed to take a single hit from a smaller plane. He's probably just trying to brag about his participation in the construction process; he's proud of the buildings, he thinks they can do anything.
If one of the welders on the building told you it could take a hit from the space shuttle, would you believe him?
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball "If one of the welders on the building told you it could take a hit from the space shuttle, would you believe him?" and the man that over saw & managed the construction project are two vastly different examples..He knew they would,you're in denial because the moment you realize that you're the crazy one for believing the laughable NIST government shills,you will lose all sense of security and will be too worrisome to watch your MNF,Jersey Shore,jerking off all the time.
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 So your answer then is no, you wouldn't believe a welder. Why believe a construction manager?
For one thing, the buildings were designed to withstand a single plane crash, and for another, the design was never tested. So forgive me if the words of a supervisor fall a little flat. What does he know about planes crashing into buildings? He just builds them, he doesn't design and test them. There is a difference.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball Last time I'm going to respond back to trolls..Leslie Robertson was the chief structural engineer for the WTC..He even stated the buildings were built,& I quote "We designed the buildings to take the impact of a 707 hitting the building in any location." Should we talk about Charlie Thornton? You are a tool man,you really are just delaying the inevitable
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 still doesn't prove they could take two jet liner impacts. If the buildings could easily survive multipl impacts, why did the collapse start right where the planes impacted?
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball Why did it start at the point of impact?BECAUSE IT WAS A DECEPTIVE DEMOLITION YOU DUMB ASS..It was to fool dumb downed idiots like yourself..Damn it was all CONTROLLED!!!
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 I wont say you theory is impossible, just extremely unlikely. In this example, if the controlled demo story were true, don't you think it would be easier to just drive a truck full of explosives into the basement, then do your controlled demo. I think it would look more natural. See, you guys are so hung up on the "survive a jetliner impact" thing, you overlook the simple. Anyone who was dreaming up a scenario like this would have thought of that over crashing aircraft into it.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball They would of thought that over crashing aircraft into it????Well how else would they be able to bring in the TSA,Bodyscanners,No fly lists,if the planes never hit the building?Think about this for one second..PNAC(Project for a New American Century)over a year before the attacks think tanks drafted this document and it said "forAmerica to dominate much of humanity and the world’s resources, we need “some catastrophic and catalysing event – like a new Pearl Harbor”..9/11 was that
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 All your theory requires is the planes hitting the buildings, and barely threatening the white house. You don't need to rig the buildings with explosives. Just the idea that terrorists could hijack and use the planes as weapons would have been enough justification. All the demolition would accomplish beyond that is thousands dead and injured and a huge mess to clean up.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball and you haven't even addressed the Cheney claim or any other FACT I present..cause you know it's true and I don't believe in coincidences..you're a troll,or just a lame joke...
alecboi84 2 months ago
@alecboi84 Who cares who benefited if it wasn't an inside job? Besides, Haliburton is one of the biggest companies in the world, they can win just about any bid that catches their eye; they don't need the help of a vice-president. Sorry, but you can't win arguments with conjecture.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@KidMeatball Also Dont bother, I dont respond to kids on u tube i trust Experts only. Your opinion dont mean anything to me and is a theory. I trust science,physics and common sense. Who knows who did it but we know it was a demolition and that the nist report is proven false/fraud. Educate yourself or stay in denile i can care less. Experts are speaking out , Experts with degrees already and they cant be slandered. Its no argument anymore its science beats theory *ae911*
Headshothorror4488 2 months ago
@Headshothorror4488 Why did you even comment? If you only trust your so-called experts, why don't you go discuss it with them? I'm sure they'll tell you exactly what you want to hear.
KidMeatball 2 months ago
@DirkandJeanneHome After the JFK assassination, definitely. Looks like Lyndon B Johnson was behind that to some extent, not just a beneficiary.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
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MrDarkTides 5 months ago
MAKE THIS VIRAL
RoxiiLoveRevolution 5 months ago
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Oh, and by the way, the right side of a flight engineer console has the LANDING GEAR controls, it's been that way since the 1940s, oh "Flight Engineer".
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
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@DirkandJeanneHome
Still waiting for that functional description of a flight engineer console,
You know, the console you sat in front of for 20 years?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@DirkandJeanneHome
Your an ignorant, jackass, by the way. The US has created 30 new democracies
since the end of the cold war, and the destruction of the Communists. Now the
Arab world is demanding Democracy, and the US is backing it.
Too bad for your ignorant asshole, Huh?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 You truly are asleep little sheep X
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
You truly can't get a job, and I can. That's because I am NOT a sheep,
but a competent engineer, and the same reason why I laugh a conspiracy
nutjobs. They just don't have a clue, just like you suck a cock, swallow
the shit that Richard Gage feeds you, and pretend you have a brain.
Don't think I am the exception, there are 7 to 9 million engineers just
like me who are in total contempt of white trash like you. Noticed?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 LOL what are you an engineer in, Lego?
Why do you think 86 CCTV cameras were removed from the pentagon after the false-flag.
It's right in your face but you can't bare to look. Good look Son X
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
The 84 Cams are what the FBI MacGuire report revealed, LOOK FOR YOURSELF.
PENTAGON, FBI VIDEO LIST, AND THE BASIS FOR 84 CAMs
911myths. com/ index. php/ FBI_hides_ 84_Pentagon_videos
The FACT is, BOZO, that it's a NATIONAL number of siezed videos, and most
were returned inside 24 hours. The number siezed in the Pentagon area =12
Another FAILURE to fucking read a book, there, Retard.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Trust me. There are cams to inspect every meter of ground surrounding the Pentagon.
Yet within minutes the feds conficated the tape from the gas station across the way. All of this after Flight 77 defied the laws of physics. pilot after pilot have gone on record stating the maneuvers were IMPOSSIBLE.
Then we get treated to a few frames of footage showing nothing apart from a white- fart streak. One of he most heavily guarded buildings in the world eh? Pay attention.
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
The gas station across the way was the CITGO gas station on a slight hill, on the
other side of VA-27 from the Pentagon, over 10 times farther than these TWO
parking lot CAMs. OH, and Flight 77 didn't fly any stressful route at all.
PENTAGON, 757 DID NOT DO A HI G TURN
911review. com/ errors/ pentagon/ aerobatics. html
I COULD give you other quotes from AerospaceWeb, or Boeing itself, that
state Flight 77 performed well within small airport guidelines.
Anything Else?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Actually, you should see what the Pilots For 9-11 Truth say. They did analsys of the flight recorder data, and that 9-11 review site by claiming the exact opposite of what that fligt recorder data and the witnesses state is simply spreading more disinformation. You fell for the lies, but science busted them.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
By The Way, that's a 9/11 Truther website that's trying to stop all those ERRORS
put out by Kooks inside the "Bowel Movement", that are destroying their credibility,
by proposing many Crock-O-Shit theories that are easily debunked.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 But still the movement grows, the questions are obvious, unless you're either a shill or a buffoon. judging by your previous spelling I'm willing to guess you're the latter. Failure to pay attention to coincidence and discrepancy is the height of ignorance. The official story has been disproved, even now your own government shit on the medical claims of the rescue workers.
John O'Neil was only one of the give-a way's, for those willing to pay attention.
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
Well, sure the "Bowel Movement" grows. Same people who play D & D, Wow, and
other fantasy worlds online. Same inability to distinguish between Reality and
Fantasy. Same believe that reading online conspiracies is REALLY equivalent to
education at an engineering school. Why do you think we get such displays of
"Abbot and Costello Physics"?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
AH YES, Every engineer organization, in the country and the world, has contempt
for conspiracy nutjobs because WE are the shills and buffoons. How could I miss
the evidence, that you have presented NONE of, that describes that?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
When I came back from Vietnam, one of MY experiences was sitting behind Girls
in a theater watching a JAWS Movie, and SCREAMING together that THEY
not cower in fear, or scream, like the Teenagers getting eaten on screen.
Same thing goes for 9/11 Truthers. Total inability to tell the difference between
their fantasy life, and reality. They look at an attack, and believe in Hologram
airliners, disappearing airliners, and replacement of airliners with missiles.
Pure Fantasy
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Vietnam was another bullshit war. What do holograms have anything to do with this?
If you want to put your head in the sand, knock yourself out, if you seriously believe all the questions regarding 9/11 have been answered i pity you. Governments lie, murder and deceive all the time.
Government = to govern mind.
Read A project for a new American century. It was all laid out in there.
Coincidence is what you have left over when you have applied a bad theory
Questions remain
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
Vietnam accomplished more than you know, China and Vietnam now INVEST
in the US, and finance your stupid political programs and politicians.
YUP, I seriously believe all the Governments Engineering reports, SCIENCE,
documentation, chemistry, the FBI, the Military, the Foreign Governments,
the 26 countries attacked by AL Qaeda AFTER 9/11/2001, and the LOGIC
and HISTORY of Arab Terrorists attacking the US.
SUCKS to be you, huh?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
SO, let me get this straight, YOU read the PNAC documents, given in PUBLIC
meetings, PUBLIC forums, and PUBLIC foreign policiy debates, as a SECRET
PLAN? I realize, little cum swallower, that PNAC doesn't have YOUR politics,
but then again, it was successful, and you are NOT.
Anything else?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Yup read everything available and it does not add up. You're obviously a moron, engineer my bum-hole, your spelling as atrocious. Physics doesn't lie, apart from on 9/11 of course. Pay attention, the theory put forward on flight 77 alone is absurd. Pilots of many years experience agree, including a personal acquaintance of mine. It was impossible. A bit like your credentials ;D
Next time you open your mouth don't be surprised if dog shit falls out X
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
Oh yeah, and I am totally in line with EVERY OTHER ENGINEER who has
dismissed the possibility of controlled demolition. Don't pretend I am the
Kook saying crap that everyone disagrees with. That would be you.
Why don't you show up at an ASCE or Structural Engineers meeting
sometime? See if they treat you any less than a Kook.
It's NOT just me there, Butt boy.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 How can you be in line with EVERY OTHER engineer when we have a growing movement called - Architects and engineers for 9/11 truth? Not only is your grammar and spelling appalling, your ability to pay attention also seems limited. Don't worry though, better engineers with more experience are looking into these issues. With buffoons like you posing as engineers no wonder questions are asked. Stick to your Lego bricks boy, you don't know what you're talking about.
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
Well, GEE, there, retard, at 1500 Engineers, the Twoof Movement has about
as many engineers as an average PTA meeting. The US engineering schools
graduate about 70,000 engineers a year, I figure you have about ONE IN 70
just to match recent graduations. The search for the Loch Ness Monster
has more engineers (3,000), so does the UFO hunt (4500).
How come you can't even match them, if you are "Growing"?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 You're general stupidity is definitely growing that's obvious, so is your anger. Graduates don't have the experience of the willing professionals going forward and stating the obvious flaws in the official theory do they? Sheesh. Once again you fail to understand the point, after all it was you who stated that you were in line with EVERY OTHER ENGINEER on these views. You have a short memory as well, your list of flaws knows no end, a bit list the NIST report. Try harder :D
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
LMAO, Since I am the ONLY one in this conversation referring to NUMBERS
and FACTs, I will just let your obvious delusions slide.
The FACT is that the 9/11 Conspiracy movement is more on a line with
Aliens Amongus Wierdos, and Tin Foil Hat Models of Kook.
Since you haven't read the NIST or FEMA reports, but claim they are
false, what exactly is the Basis of Your Opinion. Besides the view
of your head up Richard Gage's Ass?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 NIST report has holes so big in it you could literally fly a plane through them. Unlike the Pentagon eh? I already told you i read the reports. You really should stop worrying about Richard Gage's bum-hole and try to pay attention.
If you're an engineer I'm a cosmonaut, thanks for the laughs
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
Really? Why don't you post one of those NIST report Holes.
Report, chapter and verse please, Cock Snot. The chances that you read a NIST
report are Zero, ADHD brain damage does that to you.
Tell us what about how you know engineering from the Intense education you
and Jethro Bodine got, and show us how you can do your Gazintas.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 "Tell us what about how you know engineering from the Intense education you and Jethro Bodine got"
With a command of English of this caliber, who needs to debate you.
This is just Vegetable ramblings, no wonder no one is taking you seriously. Cheers!
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
That's ok, the chances of you understanding an Engineering report are fantastically
small, Just like Nano thermite, Too small to be effective.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Not as small as your understanding of English and common-sense it would seem. I also enjoy your channel, disabled comments unless they happen to agree with you! Hilarious shill :D
You must be worried about something. Go and dust off your NIST report and read it again, give me a shout if you need help with any of the big words.
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
My understanding of English is comprehensive enough to understand
you haven't posted a single FACT to support your beliefs, and never
will, as they don't exist. Pathetic and disgusting come to mind.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 I don't need to get post any facts to you, i understand your game. I was given eyes to see sister, and i understand the nature of Government. As i already told you, if you cannot see any problems or flaws with the official theory you are truly ignorant or blind. No questions remain huh?
You get back to me with your theory on John O'Neil or Scott Forbes interview, just more coincidence is it?
I really can't be bothered debating with a shill, a really bad shill at that. Cheers
.
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
NOPE, can't see problems or flaws with the Official Explanation.
Can't see a thing wrong. I looked with Engineer eyes, and no cracks.
Apparently, 7 to 9 million OTHER engineers did the same thing.
YUP, John O'Neil was going to another job that payed 2x more than the feds,
and Scott Forbes was a fat, english dumbfuck who died because he was
a fat english dumbfuck. (That should scare you, dumbfuck)
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Calls someone a dumb-fuck and struggles with basic English. You're hilarious.
The attacks were a fraud, endless war is the game, classic false flag.You're a classic shill. Better, more intelligent people than you posting here agree with me, not you :D Go and get one of your shill partners to help you out here, you seem to be struggling. Gary Corbett was another liar was he?
Oh by the way Scott Forbes isn't dead. You're answers are truly laughable, a bit like your channel X
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
Don't see any struggle with English, Maybe you are from the UK, and don't
know what proper english is? It's very common there, they don't teach it
in the schools anymore, and most people sound like bad movie brit accents.
Tell you what, why don't we simply wait to see who's world view dominates?
Maybe the world will discover that every conspiracy theory was right,
maybe it won't notice or remember THIS generation of CT'ers any more than
it remembers the WW1 and WW2 conspiracy nuts
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
Scott Forbes and OTHER claims of prior security breeches
watch?v=IergOYj63oE&feature=player_embedded#!
HERE are the PICS of the Tickets to WTC2's top of the world restaurant.
forums. randi. o r g / showthread. php? p=3089122
HERE is the music concerts. justsalsa. c o m / newyork/ concert/ wtc/
Anything else you need?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 You claimed he was dead, you're a liar. End of argument. Plus you were busted, you only checked Scott Forbes testimony after i mentioned it. You then went and watched his interview and spewed your vile garbage on said video. you're an idiot.
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
I didn't claim anything. I DOCUMENTED my claim, that no power down
happened. Do you SEE the difference there, Fancy Nancy?
YOU IDIOTS claim the gubbamint secwet agents are killing you.
Not Me. I think world changing Government secret Agents,
don't spend their time wondering what white trash in a trailer park do.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 That's not "fact", it's just you being an insulting idiot who doesn't want anyone to deal with the real world. Only kooks here are on your side of the fence, the rest of us look at you like the brainless fools you are.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 It's spelt Seized by the way. Fuck me and your an engineer. God help America ;D
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides
Anytime you want to look at the FBI MacGuire report and actually READ how
stupid (or deliberate LIE), your comments about the 86 (sic) videos, that
were "removed from the Pentagon", you are welcome to criticize my spelling
all you want. LMAO, after all, I wasn't wrong in fact, just spelling.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 No, the USA has created only puppet regimes with rigged elections at best. Death squads are not needed in true democracies, nor political oppression. The Arab world is demanding the USA get out of the Arab world, the USA/UK are trying to falsely claim that the people want the USA - NO THEY DON'T.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
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@Orgasmosexicon
LMAO, OUR allies are puppets? Like half of NATO NOT participating in
the Coalition to attack Iraq? YOU live in Japan, where are those Death Squads?
The ARAB SPRING is specifically being fought to be more democratic, and
LESS religious government. Sharia law is what's being rejected, Dumbshit.
For a rejection of america, they seem to want our help a lot.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
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@Orgasmosexicon
Listen, I realize you are only a shill account for somebody else, so don't
pretend YOU are the revolutionary martyr. Poor people under REAL
dictatorships don't post their BS on Government Bulletin Boards.
(The Internet is a DARPA product) Only a piss for brains DIVA believes
they live in a dictatorship, and can post freely on the internet.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@DirkandJeanneHome
Great, as a 30 year pilot, you should realize I know more than you about
the flight envelope. IF I need the engines turned off, I will give you a ring.
SO tell me, flight engineer, what's the electrical component that serves
as a battery in the Boeing airplane? UNLIKE you, I can tell you what is the
majority of every dial on the Flight Engineer's Console for a whole
generation of aircraft. What's the right side of the console for?
I think you are an Dumb LIAR, how's that?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@DirkandJeanneHome Fuck the USA as it is now man, don't fuck the belief. It's up to America to turn this shit around, if enough people wake up, if The USA can rise again, they have the power to end this approaching shit-storm. Admittedly it will take a miracle, but some argue that 2012 is going to be the year for miracles. Lady liberty hold the torch forward for a reason and it's up to the citizens of the USA to get behind her again and vanquish the night. Good luck to you and yours bro
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@DirkandJeanneHome The USA has been destroyed by design as I'm sure you're aware, just like the world economy. They have technology that could set the species free, but instead we have to endure what is now unfolding. Did you ever see or hear any UFO stories while you were in the AF? :D
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@DirkandJeanneHome What's wrong with people man? Where is it all heading, how can so many remain so ignorant? I give up now, i live in isolation because of my views on these issue. i know it could all be different for everyone. Civilization is sleepwalking into oblivion and in many respects 9/11 is just the tip of the iceberg.
I'm surrounded by idiots, surrounded by ignorance. Humanity should be better than this, we as a collective and as individual beings need to evolve quickly. Peace out.
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
@MrDarkTides No, you're hassled by puppet accounts, paid shills, and a few brainwashed morons. That's all. Talk to the people in the street, the vast majority DO NOT accept the USA govt's piles of lies about 9/11
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
INSIDE FUCKING JOB
MrDarkTides 5 months ago
This just in, demolition experts are now switching to jet fuel and fires to bring down large skyscraper buildings efficiently!! A word now from one of these experts, "...on 9/11 jet fuel and fire and its chemical makeup changed dramatically, we're puzzled by this but really excited to save so much money from now on" Look, he said, showing a side by side comparison", these buildings fall the same way! ...Jim, back to you.
veritablewhoswho 6 months ago
Is it possible at all that the planes, carrying highly combustible fuel, exploded? Or am I just being retarded?
Lancersbane 7 months ago
@Lancersbane the force of the impact caused the main bodies of the planes to disintegrate so there was very little left of them to explode
toomuchpetrol 5 months ago
I don't think that the controlled demolitions ever had Anything to hide from Anyone- so they are able to detonate their explosives in plain sight (sound and ALL). After having seen professional CDs and doing some research, I cannot believe that I too, fell for the explanations that was given to me on 9/11. So sad to see that, even though I try to explain this to my family and friends, they too are sold on the idea that a plane and fire brought down the WTCs- although they did not know of WTC 7.
drla02 7 months ago
@drla02
SORRY, YOU are still an IDIOT. I live in Las Vegas, and have attended SIX controlled
Demolitions, How many have you attended? Because if you had attended JUST ONE
this ridiculous fantasy excursion wouldn't happen.
1. Controlled Demolition leaves evidence, 100 TONS of thermite in,
leaves 100 TONS of thermite reactants OUT.
2. IN a CD, the explosions walk UP and DOWN the building TWICE,
as secondary, then primary supports are cut. ONLY THEN does
Building collapse begin, AFTER explosives.
Merlin5by5 7 months ago
@Merlin5by5 There wouldn't have been 100 tonnes of thermate, there would only need to be 10 tonnes, and compared to millions of tonners of debris, that's tiny. That's why it took experts to find the traces; which they DID. So deal with the fact.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon
SORRY, Kooktard, but that's NOT my claim, that's NEILS HARRET's assessment.
That's also HALF the number that NIST calculated would have been needed in
BOTH NCSTAR 1 and NCSTAR 1A, the reports you have NEVER READ.
The VOLUME of 100 TONS of post burning Thermite is about 12000 CUBIC
feet, or roughly a 1200 sq ft house TEN feet high. THAT IRON would be WELDED
to the side of the columns attacked. YOU DO REALIZE that heating the
steel involves COOLING the Thermite, right?
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Fine it's not "your" claim, but it's still ridiculously WRONG and nothing more than stupid exaggeration. You believed it because you don't anything more than insulting people, watching Fox News and MTV, I've done the calculations too, the figure is more than ten tonnes. Even 3 tonnes would've been sufficient to take those buildings down, and there was clearly other forms of demolition explosives used; easy to hide because of maintenance levels.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
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@Merlin5by5 There wouldn't have been 100 tonnes of thermate, there would only need to be 10 tonnes, and compared to millions of tonners of debris, that's tiny. That's why it took experts to find the traces; which they DID. So deal with the fact.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@drla02
As far as I can tell, the only simularity between the WTC and CD, is that
they both Fell Down. Which way did you expect them to fall? UP?
Merlin5by5 7 months ago
Thing is wtc are steel buildings made to take multiple jet hits. Demo/thermate was used
Headshothorror4488 7 months ago
@Headshothorror4488
Thermate leaves Barium Nitrate, in fact, there is 29% Barium Nitrate, in
thermate, versus 1~2 percent sulfur. Barium Nitrate is FLUORESCENT.
Any one of the HUNDREDS of Bomb and SAR dog teams that searched
the WTC would have LIT UP the Barium Nitrate like christmas lights, as
they use BLACK LIGHTS to follow blood trails. Try again, Big Fail so far.
Merlin5by5 7 months ago
That excuse is rubbish for numerous reasons; firstly, your unsupported claim that there were would be enough Barium Nitrate to be detectable, when it's known by experts that less than ten tonnes of thermate would be all that was needed. Compared to millions of tonnes of debris, which is why it required other experts to find the traces of thermate - which they DID, The evidence WAS found, and it's widely known now. There are peer-reviewed papers already published on the subject, so deal wit it.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
i do not see similarities. esp. i can't hear any sound of explosions (u probably turned it off for a reason). plus, the wtc collapses top first, while the other buildings start collapsing as a whole from the bottom up. it's different with WTC7, as it seems to collapse from bottom up. i'd like to know why. the problem with u guys is, noone can take you serious, even if u state justified doubts, cause u are totally biased against reality. WTC1+2 went down cause planes full of fuel hit them!!
xmiraculix82 10 months ago
@xmiraculix82 And obama isn't related to mcaine, and mcaine isn't related to bush..............your government has no reson to lie to you bro.....drink some more flouride, and injest some more aspartame.....look ! Footballs on !!!!
WONDOCTORJ 8 months ago
This video is a FAIL!! The big key here is the audio. The WTC collapses out of total silence. Go and watch ABC News shoot from across the street. Not a sound is heard prior to the collapse. A controlled demolition's linear charges would blow your eardrums out from that range. There is another video showing the WTC for almost 3 mins prior to collapse, only blocks away. Not a sound is heard.
This is simply impossible for it to be a "Controlled Demo"
Kind of more like Ridiculous actually
roquefortfiles 1 year ago
@roquefortfiles There are videos with sound, and the explosions are quite clear. Look them up
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon LOL.. nothing doing dude!! I know what shaped charges sound like close up.. Been there done that.. There is the sound of the tower collapsing for sure.. There ain't no linear shaped charges going off.. Not even close!!!.. Not even REMOTELY close!!
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Then LOOK for a video with real SOUND. Simple. There are a few around, and I know what they sound like too. The sound on those videos is exactly like that of controlled demolitions. The videos that the corporate media in the USA kept showing had the sound muffled for the background, but other videos do not.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Buuuuull SHIT!! Then send it to me!!.. I can show you a dozen videos that record the ambient street sounds PERFECTLY and not one peep coming from the tower.. Go check out Trinity Church vid. Shot from in front of Trinity church. We hear the surrounding people talking with no problem and the tower burning about 1500 feet away (i measured).. not a sound comes from it. Or check out Cameraplanet.. The same thing..
Muffled sound?? Get real. I know audio!!
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Sure, this is just one of many. So eeeeeasy to find.
Use a search engine to look this up - since posting a link is censored here on Youtube, apparently
WTC 7: Sound Evidence for Explosions
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Those aren't shaped charges!! Its nothing but compressed air being ejected.
Don't quite know how argue with the Chief of the FDNY standing in front of 7 and hearing nothing. There is another fireman.. a grunt.. who said he heard nothing as it fell.. You're not going to have a few people hear this and others are not... NO WAY!! Been there done that. Everyone in lower Manhattan would be aware of this if it were a CD..
Not even remotely a question!!
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Rubbish! Stop repeating crap excuses that don't work anyway. Compressed air does NOT annihiliate concrete from a simple gravitational collapse. Lots of people were aware it was CD, that came out ages ago, Why deny it? Is feigning blindness and utter ignorance your only fall-back?
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon LOL!! I got news for you!! Explosives don't annihilate concrete either.. Nor are they used for that. The buildings don't even fall in a manner of a CD.. You don't know what you are talking about so don't try. The collapse would look ENTIRELY different with explosive involved.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Sure, sure, and bombs don't destroy buildings - everything bombed in wars just stays there undamaged, not a scratch, right? Ah, but the buildings DO FALL EXACTLY LIKE A CONTROLLED DEMO. Sorry, that's the way it is, you and other nitwit losers can pretend all day long whatever you want, doesn't change reality. Try again; simple denials only make you look idiotic.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon No they don't!! Not even close!! One charge sufficient to cut one column in this building would blow ALL the glass out of the windows. WITH EASE!! Never happened!! and this thing had 47 internal columns.. Denials?? I speak from experience dude!! The truck bomb in 93 had one of the largest blast over pressures. An enormous bomb. It did not turn concrete to powder.
What chance do you think a floor of concrete stands against 30 stories landing on it?
None!!
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles I'm beginning to believe you speak not from experience, but just from repetition of nonsense. The truck bomb only had an estimated 3 tonnes of explosive in a truck, the intention being a "bomb", not a demolition charge. That's why it didn't turn concrete to power - but you now admit that much of the concrete in the WTC Twin Towers was turned to powder. Interesting, Are you going to next claim that magic did it? What of the storeys on the top of that 30 storeys? Your logic fails.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Well what do you have to say to Les Robertson the guy who built the structure... calculated the load distributions.. And had this to say on its failure..
"There is no way one floor is going to hold 14 or more stories landing on it.. not possible.. it would collapse instantly and to the foundations"... (end)
Btw.. Les is a whole lot smarter than you will ever be.
Come up with something intelligent against that!!!.. I can't wait
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Argument by authority doesn't defeat physics, and physics demonstrates mathematically that no gravitational collapse would've provided enough energy to destroy those buildings. Your use of Robertson's words out of context reveals you're a rather stupid man who needs other words, but doesn't understand them
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Using his words out of context?? LOL!!! Your really sad dude.. I know the clip very well. It was quoted almost verbatim to his reply to that other "TM" whacko Steven Jones.
Physics??? Floors don't hold vertical loads. The columns do. Every floor has a load limit. The WTC was about 1500 tons per floor. What do you think is going to happen to that limit when it is hit with 180,000 tons in motion after the ext columns have buckled and failed??
Quick math!!!
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Yes, exactly what you tried to pull. You apparently don't know any physics at all. Do you even UNDERSTAND what a gravitationally-driven collapse is? I bet you have to look it up on Google. The math's quite easy if you have a degree that's appropriate - I do. Calling other people whackos, I only see you being a whacko. Insults and out-of-context quotes don't convince anyone. Try to study the subject beofre you simply repeat crap from other smarter people than you.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Oh you have a physics degree?? (and a superiority complex) well it should be much easier for you to understand then.. What part of a floor having a 1500 ton load limit did you not understand?? And the quote is NOT out of context so shove dude if you want to play that stupid game. And yes i understand physics VERY well.
Gravitational collapse?? Yeah that happens when 1/3 of the building is set free to drop on members only rated for a 10th of that weight..
Duuuuuh?
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Yes I do. You apparently still don't know anything more to recycle the same old debunked excuses without learning a thing. The quote IS "out of context", simply claiming it's not proves nothing except your lack of imagination, your lack of research, and your lack of comprehension of why your claims are so ridiculous
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Only one problem with the whole CD thing..
Nothing was found.!!! And you can't simply explain that away. Teams of CD techs were there. Not one blasting cap.. fuse element...was even seen. This material would be everywhere. And I am sorry but you don't have professional news cameras standing 800 feet away and have them record nothing.. Its not happening dude.. I have had EXACTLY the same experience. Its a load of bollocks only idiots buy in to who don't know any better
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles Rubbish! They were NOT looking it. Your excuse fails for another reason too; the obvious cover-up in the orders to dispose of the material evidence, getting rid of all the steel, without almost none for research. oh, and the cameras recorded a lot; angle-cut steel, molten metal, debris smashed into such tiny pieces that only explosives could explain it. Perhaps the problem is that idiots like you prefer to ignore what's right in front of your face, or want others to do so.
Orgasmosexicon 5 months ago
@Orgasmosexicon Ahhhhh blocked am I? Packing up your toys and leaving the sandbox eh? No balls to listen to someone with a little knowledge on the topic?? Your so out to lunch on this but the sad part is that you really don't realize HOW MUCH!!
Your stories are ridiculous. And so are you. Mr Orgasmosexicon. Why don't you post on a porn site instead?
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
But a plane crashed into it the fuel just exploded that's what the "explosives" were
1234cm1 1 year ago
The initiation of the collapse is the mistery and there were 3 massive explosions at the start of collapse each tower 1 and 2!!!
74pbg 1 year ago