@Brn2FlyUL Hello fellow Nova Scotian (I think) Yes I agree flaps should go up as soon as you have positive control, but I think the reason Kings Schools wants you to not do that is because a lot of people that fly retractable gear aircraft can mistake the flaps lever for the gear one.. and if you aren't paying attention that can be a bad thing. In an aircraft without retractable gear, that's perfectly fine, but I think they want you in the habit of not touching things until you can concentrate.
Flaps UP soon as you have positive control after landing. Better breaking. Better directional control. If your landing a LSA or Cessna on a 5000ft runway then yes maybe keep the flaps down. I however like to keep it consistent an stick with the same procedure.
I understand Martha's reason for this, but I've been taught by two separate flight schools (one of which was run by a former founder and pilot of a major airline) here to raise the flaps on touch down. On a check-out flight in a small Cessna, I was even dinged once for forgetting to raise the flaps on touch down. On certain aircraft, I'd keep them down for the very reason mentioned, but I'm surprised the kings do it in a Cessna. Maybe we do things different here in Canada :)~
On shorter runways I like to bring the flaps up right after touchdown so that I will have more braking efficiency and so there is no chance of the aircraft getting airborne again.
@willisbr Actually many aircrafts specify this action in their POHs in the short landing procedure. Balding your tires isn't really a concern, the only downside for this procedure that causes a debate is the possibility of accidentally retracting the gear instead of the flaps. And if the airplane ballons the squat switch will not be activated and it won't prevent the gear from retracting. But still, it is a very useful method of increasing the braking and steering efficiency.
@Brn2FlyUL Hello fellow Nova Scotian (I think) Yes I agree flaps should go up as soon as you have positive control, but I think the reason Kings Schools wants you to not do that is because a lot of people that fly retractable gear aircraft can mistake the flaps lever for the gear one.. and if you aren't paying attention that can be a bad thing. In an aircraft without retractable gear, that's perfectly fine, but I think they want you in the habit of not touching things until you can concentrate.
TheMeslava 3 weeks ago in playlist deror
Flaps UP soon as you have positive control after landing. Better breaking. Better directional control. If your landing a LSA or Cessna on a 5000ft runway then yes maybe keep the flaps down. I however like to keep it consistent an stick with the same procedure.
Brn2FlyUL 1 month ago
I understand Martha's reason for this, but I've been taught by two separate flight schools (one of which was run by a former founder and pilot of a major airline) here to raise the flaps on touch down. On a check-out flight in a small Cessna, I was even dinged once for forgetting to raise the flaps on touch down. On certain aircraft, I'd keep them down for the very reason mentioned, but I'm surprised the kings do it in a Cessna. Maybe we do things different here in Canada :)~
RocketBird120 3 months ago
How about a soft field landing?
gfunkel200 5 months ago
Why are these videos so short?
LACSACR 6 months ago
It's kinda hard to mix up the flaps and gear lever on a piper ;)
jkiang 6 months ago
On shorter runways I like to bring the flaps up right after touchdown so that I will have more braking efficiency and so there is no chance of the aircraft getting airborne again.
FSXWLFS 7 months ago
@FSXWLFS This is wrong. Are you a simulator only pilot? You'll bald your tires quicker. Unnecessary and not proper piloting.
willisbr 5 months ago
@willisbr Actually many aircrafts specify this action in their POHs in the short landing procedure. Balding your tires isn't really a concern, the only downside for this procedure that causes a debate is the possibility of accidentally retracting the gear instead of the flaps. And if the airplane ballons the squat switch will not be activated and it won't prevent the gear from retracting. But still, it is a very useful method of increasing the braking and steering efficiency.
haskakis 4 months ago
At the end of the video.I will make a note of that.
levelat350 8 months ago
G and F5 are hard to mix :) Just kidding guys ;)
YMBatal 10 months ago 12
@YMBatal fsx
MrMimojr 9 months ago
I WOULD go with this video for the exact reason Martha explains at the end of the vid. T&Gs are a different procedure all together - surely.
8QQHC 1 year ago
touch and go I always retract. I wouldn't go with this video.
pope007 1 year ago
hmm what if you get into this habit for full stops then forget to retract your flaps on a touch and go???
jpar84 2 years ago
@jpar84 Then you should go back and see your CFI for a refresher.
willisbr 5 months ago