King James Only Debate (This actually changed my mind on this subject)

[greekgod41]

Just another FACT that White refuses to discuss is that his favourite manuscript the Vaticanus dosent even have ist and 2nd Timothy, titus, philemon, revelation and most of the book of Hebrews!

[greekgod41]

James White is such an apostate!, all through this debate is his belief that God is not behind the inspiration of the bible, because copyists errors get insinuated into the text, but he conveniently forgets the fact that God said he would preserve his very WORDS from error so that we can have them today with us

[greekgod41]

Dr Ruckman would have destroyed White in this debate, thats why White has refused to debate him to this day and why he always chooses men like Moorman instead

[gespb32]

Dr White,this man is really what the Church needs right now, a true scholar & academic who is willing to engage & debate for the faith of Jesus.

[azmarkb]

Isn't it ironic - James knocks down the King James only view.

[kenpca]

Aside from some visual issues later in the video, this is a great video! James White presents much more facts than Jack Moorman who seems to base most of his position upon his philosophical & theological position! Even the KJV has been revised! It is really quite simple, the words of Jesus & the NT are in common daily language, not some special religious speech! Forcing the Bible to support KJV Onlyism because of a desire for a "standard" in English isn't Biblical nor sound doctrine! :)

[mwilson70201]

White's argument on Titus 2:13 is meritless, just 3 verses before in verse 10 the AV identifies God as our Saviour vs 13 is speaking of the one who is this great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. As Isaiah said in 43:3,11;45:15,21 there is only one Saviour. Rev 16:5 in the AV echoes chapter 1:4,8;4:8;11:17 which all point to Jesus Christ being God. Ruckman is still waiting tor White to come to Pensacola but he is too clever for that. Ruckman is in his 80's, c'mon James it's just a crazy old man.

[SkiesVibrant]

@mwilson70201 So, tell me, is Ruckman still claiming that aliens with blue blood are coming to rapture the church? Ruckman isn't a heretic or an apostate, he's a racist lunatic.

[mwilson70201]

@SkiesVibrant I've read a few of his books and seem to recall him theorizing that the man of sins appearance could possibly be associated with demons posing as aliens but nothing about the church being caught out by anyone but Jesus. While he is firm on segregation it's based on God's commands to avoid intermingling to Israel and Acts 17:26 statement on God setting boundaries. I don't agree with it but I'd venture to say that racist lunatic has led more blacks to Jesus than any 10 men you know.

[mwilson70201]

@SkiesVibrant Besides I was just saying I would like to see Ruckman and White discuss the matter man to man. A crazy old man and his mind and faith in the word of God vs an articulate young man and his scholarship and computer on a subject both are conversant in. That would be something to see, don't you think? But White won't go to Pensacola, he's aware of the offer to pay his airfare put him up in a nice hotel and feed him but has opted out. Too bad, it would have been a great show.

[SkiesVibrant]

@mwilson70201 Actually, if you go to White's site, you can see the actual copies of the correspondence Ruckman sent. It was vile, rude & as usual full of invective. Ruckman never seriously meant to debate, he wanted a one-man show. BTW, and not to be contrary, Ruckman isn't capable of leading anyone to Christ. That's the job of the Holy Spirit. You cannot debate people who believe in 'advanced revelation'. It's not a Biblical concept, & has no basis in scripture or tradition.

[mwilson70201]

@SkiesVibrant There's no doubt Brother Ruckman is a bit rough around the edges. Of Course I know it's the Holy Ghost who convicts and converts, I speaking along the lines of James 5:17 and Romans 10:14 "How shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?" Our part is small yet it is God's way to use men in this great work. To God be the glory. While the world enjoys the holidays I hope you enjoy God's unspeakable gift. Jesus saves sinners. Amen.

[SkiesVibrant]

@mwilson70201 Thanks for the conversation. I know you understand how people get saved, but I'm growing very weary of people saying "I got 'em saved". Of course we are an essential part of the great commission. Here's my thinking on Ruckman. He is a mean, very mean spirited man. That kind of spirit does not come from a healthy & whole relationship with the Risen King. He shows a definite lack of the fruit of the spirit. I leave his salvation in God's hands. Blessings to you.

[LifeLibertyLove]

James White is a liar and a hypocrite.