Clashes over HIV link to AIDS: True or False?

[loagun]

HIV is not a retrovirus which means the belief that HIV being an RNA causes AIDS is wrong, and so is what the public has been lead to believe about HIV. 'Retroviruses' don't even exist nor have they ever, even since their 'discovery' in 1981; or rather when the term was created to cover up what the actual cause of supposed 'RNA' diseases really is.

'HIV' has the Exact same molecular structure as Benzene & that's because it IS Benzene. 'HIV' has always been Benzene Poisoning. ALWAYS. Google it

[babz76]

tHERES NO PROOF OF THAT VIRUS BEING THE CAUSE OF Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome

[pozlove]

Check HIVlover, com, you can see the living is not so hard. Most of the people can deal with it easily! good luck!! 

[TickleMehNancy]

What about the people who died before any treatments and before AZT? How did they get AIDS if not from HIV?

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy They were drug addicts. GAY drug addicts but that doesn't have much to do with it besides gay men loving poppers aka nitrite inhalants. Poppers are immunosuppressive carcinogenic and mutagenic. That's why gay men get KS and why heteros don't (besides old people). Heteros don't abuse poppers. Gays also tend to take a lot of enemas and that causes massive systemic yeast infections which is obviously very very bad for you.

[TickleMehNancy]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny Your reasoning doesn't make sense.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy What? That imaginary things can't makeanyone sick?

[TickleMehNancy]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny Not everyone who died from AIDS used poppers and drugs just like MOST people who use poppers and drugs don't die from AIDS or Karposi Sarcoma. So there is a disconnect right there.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy Yes, the original aidscases were in drug addicts with a history of abuseof poppers. Junkies are famous for droppingdead young of opportunistic infections. You don't need a virus of mass destruction to explain why drug addictsget sick and die

Why do you believe in something that even the "discoverer" never actually found?

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy To see what else has been killing people google...AZT LABEL

You know the bone marrow is where you make your blood right?

[TickleMehNancy]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny I am sure AZT has killed people but you're not getting it. There are many people who died from aids BEFORE azt and they didn't use poppers or drugs so what did they die from?

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy The original aids cases WERE in people with a histry of drug abuse.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy If you mean to refer to people living in broke ass countries without access to clean water or basic medica care....you don't needa virus of mass destruction t explain why those people die either.

[TickleMehNancy]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny I am talking about the pre-AZT era in the USA. Besides, the people who die from AIDS in Africa all test positive for the HIV virus.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy They were DRUGGIES. They ALL had a history ofdrug abuse. No...people in Africa do not all test + on oneof Gallo's crap antibody tests. They don't even need to test people in Africa in oder to diagnose. They can use the "Bangui Definition" To see cases ofpeople (in Africa) with ALL the clinical symptoms of aids without a + test result google....NIH NIAID REBUTTAL PAPER

[TickleMehNancy]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny I don't think all hemophiliacs had a history of drug abuse. What does it even matter if they abused drugs? Why doesn't everyone who abuses drugs get AIDS? Or most? I am sure the criteria for diagnosing AIDS can be caused by malnourishment.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy In a way...they started treated hemophiliacs with Factor V111 in the 70's which du to purification technology then was very a very impure product. Their wives and kids didn't get aids.

Drug abuse is very bad for people. Drug addicts die young all the time. How are you defining "aids"? There are several different definitions. The "Bangui Definition" uses symptoms that are age old in Africa....there's nothing "new" going on there.

[TickleMehNancy]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny Drug users die from overdoses not from Karposi Sarcoma and a destroyed immune system COME ON. You may believe what you are saying but if someone said to prove your fervor in not believing HIV causes AIDS by injecting yourself with the harmless HIV virus then I doubt you would. Unless you are already positive.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy KS is causdby abuse ofpoppers. That's why you don't see heteros with KS. Junkies die of infections all the time espeially pnuemonia.

You CAN'T inject yourself withsomething even the "discoverer"ever actually found.I can't inject mysef with demons either.

[TickleMehNancy]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny HIV has been isolated and the dna code has been isolated. Now there are people who say HIV is just a harmless retrovirus and they don't DENY it exists, but you even deny HIV exists which has been proven to be wrong. You are overly simplistic. Yes drug users are dirty and die from many things, but that doesn't prove HIV doesn't exist. Why would creating a virus that drug users get be a money making ordeal when most are homeless?

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy NO...it hasn't. Gallo just LIED. That'sWHY his "hiv" antibody tstshasno rfrence standard....he had......NOTHING....to compare it to to validat it. I have the direct link to the disclaimer on my channel under the Pope.

The statepays for the junkies' meds. The drug companies aren't givng them away for free.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

Google....Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers

"...Gallo's claim was based on last-minute alterations to documents that make false claims about the results of his lab work and research experiments.... a letter from an electron microscopy expert indicating that Gallo’s samples did.....NOT........... contain any virus, and a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could.........NOT.......... be purified directly from human materials.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

To see Gallo's "proof" gogle....A Selection of HIV Documents

Evidence of Fraud?

Make note of the NIH's letter to Gallo....WHAT virus? All you have is crap here

Then scroll down to see whatthe fraud scribbled out.." Despite intensive research efforts the causative agent of aids has.....NOT.....been identified"

Then he announced his "discovery" at a press conference. Then he went to the patent office to patent his test for the virus he did.....NOT.....discover

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy Have youever been around junkies? They are FILTHY! You don' need a virus of mass destruction to explain why people who shoot dirty street drugs into ther scrawny arms get sick and die.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy I grew up with "aids" n the family due to IVDU and the fact is that herand her crew had almost killed themselves any numbe of times even before Gallo decided to LIE about having discovered a new killer virus. One time when they all gave themselves a staph infection from shooting up out of a puddle because they were too sick to wait to get to a tap. Junkies are FILTHY!

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy There also hasn't been a decrease in population or an increasein death rates in any African country. They're dying of the same things they've always died of. No different and no faster. What kind of "deadly" epidemic doesn't kill people any faster?

Google....NOTEWORTHY SUCCESSES AGAINST AIDS IN AFRICA

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy Do you not like to read? Some people don't. If you're more of a watcher than a reader try these documentaries...HOUSE OF NUMBERS.....Deconstructing the Myth of Aids .... AIDS INC ...... The Other Side of Aids . ..... HIV FACT OR FRAUD? This is an extended interview from Aids Inc which discusses the African stats....AIDS Dissident: Charles Geshekter, PhD (Part 1 of 3)

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@TickleMehNancy ".... Surveys indicate that more than half of Africans who qualify for an AIDS diagnosis test HIV-negative:

227 patients with "AIDS": 59% test HIV-negative (Hishida, 1992)

122 patients with "AIDS": 69% test HIV-negative (Brindle, 1993)

913 patients with "AIDS": 71% test HIV-negative (Songok, 1994)"

the references are at the bottom of the article

[stalag58]

HIV or AIDS its all gay rabies to me

[trop2soucis]

I believe HIV virus does not cause aids, because a virus cannot sleep 15 years( incubation time) and suddenly wake up and cause disease, can you sleep 15 years without eating? that's rubbish .a lot of people have test poz many years ago and doing well without medication,including myself, or maybe I still got some few years left before my funny hiv virus wake up and kill me

[MarxIzalias]

AIDS is a SYNDROME caused by a disease.

HIV is a VIRUS that is the disease.

There is a correlative link between the a disease instigator and a syndrome caused by disease. Must be an impressive leap of faith to go from.

Human Immunodeficiency Virus to causing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome.

Oh wait, that is HOW THE FUCKING THING IS ACQUIRED!

What next people will be saying there is no link between HPV and Warts.

What a joke.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@MarxIzalias How can a virus that even the "discoverer" never actually discovered be making anyone sick? There aren't even any specific symptoms. HPV causes very specific symptoms and has been isolated directly from human samples.

[MarxIzalias]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny

Many, MANY PEOPLE, have become sick from diseases that NOBODY KNEW ABOUT, that's HOW THEY GET DISCOVERED!

That's where the term SYNDROME is born from, a collection of symptoms that manifest when a disease is present.

Also a disease doesn't announce itself, that's just fucking stupid to think that there are no unknown causes.

THE ENTIRE DIAGNOSTIC PRACTICE IS DEDICATED TO THE PREMISE THAT: PEOPLE ARE SICK AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHY.

HOW CAN ANYONE BE AS DUMB AS YOU!

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@MarxIzalias Wtf are you talking about? Since the "discoverer" of "hiv" never actually found any such thing that means something else must be causing the disease. Duh!

[MarxIzalias]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny

Did you know the discoverer of radium didn't know it caused cancer, SO BY YOUR LOGIC, THERE IS NO WAY SHE COULD HAVE DIED OF CANCER!...

Oh wait, SHE DID.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@MarxIzalias That has NOTHING to do with "hiv"

[MarxIzalias]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny

No it has everything to do with your logic.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@MarxIzalias Um.....thatisn't MY logic. The discoverer of radium something. The "discoverer" of hiv found.....NOTHING! He just lied.

[MarxIzalias]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny

The point you made appeared to be that; the person who discovers something who doesn't know about the extra side effects must be immune until those effects are discovered.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@MarxIzalias Strawman. That is NOT my point.

MY point is that imaginary viruses that NOBODY has ever actually found INCLUDING the "discoverer" can;t make anyone sick.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@MarxIzalias Google....Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers

"....Gallo's claim was based on last-minute alterations to documents that make false claims about the results of his lab work and research experiments.... a letter from an electron microscopy expert indicating that Gallo’s samples did....NOT..... contain any virus, and a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could.....NOT......be purified directly from human materials. "

[MarxIzalias]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny

There is a reason why AIDS is attributed to HIV.

BECAUSE IT IS A SYNDROME THAT HAS ONE DIAGNOSTIC CERTAINTY, THE PRESENCE OF HIV.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@MarxIzalias Threason is because Gallo....LIED! That's it. No other reason. GALLO is also the "hiv" test patent holder. He went from the press conferenestraight tothe patent office to patent the test based on the viushe did......NOT.....discover. To see cases of people with ALL the clinical symptoms of aids WITHOUT getting a reaction on one of Gallo's handydandy hiv-ometer google....NIH NIAID REBUTTAL PAPER

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@MarxIzalias To see the list ofthe SEVENTY(known) conditions which cause +'s on one of Gallo's crap antibod tests google.....WHOSEANTIBODIES ARE THEY ANYWAY?

might be flu might be pregnacy or a previouspregnancy might be herpes might be a yeast infection might be TB might be leprosy might be malaria etc etc

Gallo's tests are UNstandardized crap. I have the direct link to the disclaimer on my channel just under the Pope

[MarxIzalias]

@mykoolaidtastesfunny

I will investigate the claims and then return.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

@MarxIzalias edit....the discoverer of radium Found something. Quite unlike the "discoverer" of the dread virus ofmass destructin who found.....NOTHING.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

The "discoverer" of "hiv" found.....NOTHING. To see Gallo's "proof" google....A Selection of HIV Documents Evidence of Fraud?

Unearthed by US Governmental Investigations into the scientific work of Dr. Robert Gallo

Make note of the NIH's letter to Gallo....WHAT virus?

Then scroll down to se what the little fraud scribbled out....."Despite intensive research efforts the causative agent of aids has.....NOT......been identified"

Then he announced his "discovery" at a press conference

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

Letter from Dr. Gonda XE "Gonda, Matthew" , the Head of Electron Microscopy at the NIH XE "National Institutes of Health" , XE "Gallo, Robert" . He reports that images wanted for the Science papers, do.......NOT....... contain "HIV" (HTLVIII) a s Gallo had claimed, but only cellular rubbish. This was received only 3 days before Gallo sent in the Science papers for publication, When the papers appeared in print, they still contained photos credited to Gonda, with Gallo saying they contain HIV.

[mykoolaidtastesfunny]

“Years from now, people will find our acceptance of the HIV theory of AIDS as silly as we find those who excommunicated Galileo.”

Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests.

for more googe...IS “HIV” REALLY THE CAUSE OF AIDS? ARE THERE REALLY ONLY “A FEW” SCIENTISTS WHO DOUBT THIS?

He's also in HOUSE OF NUMBERS on video on demand

[rawtheory333]

A fuckin 'Stein that works for vaccine corps is defending the establishment. Big surprise.

[werebear1]

I do believe it is a valid request and a valid point as well. Hopefully they will forget about making a profit and focus on curing and preventing, of course.

[trop2soucis]

@werebear1 you don't need cure , hiv is a scam, just move on with your life

[PoolOfTrolls]

dumb people

[AntiTerror2000]

AIDS is terrorism as well.NO TO TERROR!

[Crankwhistle]

**** Yahweh's analysis of AIDS ***** *****Video Youtube '2 AIDS MALARIA CANCER CURE CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE' *******

He can cure in short order, don't let them block it.

[Takua38000]

@Crankwhistle

What?

[creationgirl09]

hey that berstein guy has conflict of interest-he works for the vaccine enterprise. check out what leonard howoritz has to say about aids.

[12GaugeLosAngeles]

Never trust anybody... the world is like a sick movie with a plot you have to work hard to really see... see past the RT fog as well. Trust you and learn history, IT DOES REPEAT ITSELF! (Cough, cough the word TERRORISM was used by Hitler. Think about that...

[Crankwhistle]

This meeting is a fraud, Yahweh has already cured a lot of people and they know it.

If you want proof search video '9 AIDS CURE' and see for yourself.

Do you have the GUTS or are you owned too.

You Know they block what they don't want.

[freshhug]

Money is definately in medicine but I doubt this has any truth at all to it. One should consider the reasons behind the ones saying there is no link. Take a look at the "Tea party" -movement in USA, full of idiots who doesn't have any facts straight.

[raf747]

PASTEUR INSTITUTE SCIENTIFICS Luc Montagnier, Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and colleagues discovered the two HIV viruses that cause AIDS, in 1983 and 1985, was honored by the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.

[FromDimmuLand]

I think it was Dr. Robert Gallo who made the AIDS virus ti kill the Gays, or something like that ..

There is a lot of vids on youtube about this..

watch?v=CDxZ7PX8YGI

And I did read some articles that claimed there is no proof of monkeis actually carrying and/or spreading HIV/AIDS.. Who knows these days ...

[GravDiga]

@FromDimmuLand Truth is the most valuable resource because without it we are all lost and in darkness

[harr77]

@FromDimmuLand The guy who discovered the disease made it love conspiracy theories.

[otraverdad]

"AIDS can be reversed. Nutrition is the answer." Nobel Prize for Viral Discoveries Dr Luc Montagnier

watch?v=avQ0mRINot4

[gasttheplast]

RT you'r chanel has a vires.

[SkaffBear]

@gasttheplast

true, it does not work properly, i think it's too much content

[gasttheplast]

@SkaffBear yes. I thing you'r right.

[Mauhadeeb28]

If people stopped doing the things that spread HIV, they would not have to worry about it. It's pretty darn simple.

[flaffywaffy]

@Mauhadeeb28 I suggest you have a look at a documentary called "House of Numbers" , and ask yourself, why can they not isolate the HIV virus?

[Mauhadeeb28]

@flaffywaffy I understand. The money is in the medicine. No need to watch that film. Still, if the actions cease, then the only possible reason for infection would be deliberate.

[BigGift1]

If the virus has been isolated, why still no cure?

[loveisall1000]

@BigGift1 there is a cure,its just theres no profit in cures!

big phama is cashing in on peoples misery..shame on them.

[Infinite0Antigravity]

@BigGift1 Exactly. The HIV virus has never been isolated. The AIDS drugs kill the ignorant people.

[HerrSpieldose]

it'd be funny if that meeting turned into a Taiwanese style beat down....