I played this line as White twice and won both. The games were identical, but diverged from this analysis at 7. 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. b3 Nge7 8. Nc3 0-0 9. Bb2 Nf5 10.Ne4 Bb6 11.0-0-0 Nfd4 12.Bxd4 Nxd4 13.Nxd4 Qg1 14.Bh3 Qxd1+ 15.Kxd1 I talked to the opponents after & both said the same thing... they panicked & thought they could get out at g1, and moves 7,8 seemed innocuous so they didn't see the 0-0-0. Neither did I the first time until last minute. The 2nd guy was almost 1900. I'm 1600.
It doesn't matter it is better to trade queens because after ...Bxf3 Qxh1 ...Bxh1 dxc5 black is not as good as the line given in the video. Oh and there is a check ...Re8+ @squirellOFC
i think the Bc5 line is very rarely seen b/c rather than play d3, he can choose between plans involving the immediate bc4 and possible attacks on the f7 pawn or the immediate c3 and d4 to gain a tempo on black's bishop on c5. either way, i think these lines offer much more promising chances for white. typically black responds with the immediate exf4 (attempting to hold on to the pawn) or plans involving d6 and maintaining the central pawn on e5.
@expectabledotnet , I think It will lose the Knight on f3 (attacked by two pieces, Queen on h1 and the Bishop) white is in a bad position. After that, if the Rook on a8 were to be moved to e8, will make it very difficult for white's queen. Better to get rid of Black's queen. (But, I may be wrong, would like to see other responses)
@expectabledotnet, seems like Thilindel's move order might be better. "Because Re8 will pin the queen, while the b@g4 + Q@ h1 are double attacking the knight."
@expectabledotnet Its because the rook can come out to e8 winning the queen, the queen and bishop both attack the knight. There is a double threat to win more material. To avoid this situation the queen has to trade.
To the nub who posted this display of ignorance. Pawns move and take other pawns in an irregular fashion. That was called "en passe" or "en passant". Look up something that you dont understand on wiki or google.
This looks very similar to the Damiano Defense (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6?!) lines after 3.Nxe5 fxe5??, only the roles of White and Black are reversed.
Both demonstrate the danger of moving your f-pawn early. For the King's Gambit it is okay, but only if you are careful, and in this example White clearly isn't.
Well i guess after d4 you could just play Bg4 forcing queens trade as shown and later on move dark square bishop. Th position after is quite the same.
I am fairly new to the world of chess and I was wondering why would the pawn not jsut take the bishop on C5 instead of forcing a queen trade as I assume if you were to do what I suggested, the bishop on G4 would take the knight f3... look at 4:38 in the video if you are wondering what point i am talking about.
@goldbuddah I understand that the rook could pin the queen to the king however, the knight could block the threat and so could the bishop and save the queen...
@paulparanoid Yes but I believe Jrobi said that it would be useful if your BLITZ games? Therefore, they don't have much time to think, but you do have a point, advanced blitz players might not fall for this trap. A good lesson to beginners. Another job well done Jrobi.
@kbcw123456 - Depends on your definition of "advanced", maybe. I'm not trying to be negative - if this trap works for people, great! But in my club experience any player worth his salt who plays the KG has studied at least a bit of the theory and thus would know better than to take the e5 pawn. The KG is a non-standard opening and thus, again in my experience, is very rarely played by people without at least some book study under their belt.
jrobi: Technology has ruined the King's Gambit. In the 70s I was a high school player playing in state championships, using the opening over and over because no one else knew it. In fact, many had never seen it. I was unstoppable playing White. Now... not so much. Hardly at all, actually. ARGH!
Hello jrobi ....Greetings from Greece!I am really interested in chess and i wanted to ask you something:Where did you download the analysis board from?Please tell me because i really enjoy your cool videos of chess traps...Send me a link or something and please create a trap where someone accept the free pawn you offer at your fourth video with the Queen's elephant Declined elephant trap...please answer me soon and send me a link to download an analysis board...Thanks a lot ,
The problem with this trap is that white chooses the King's Gambit, which means he has at least a basic understanding of its theory. 3. fxe5 isn't even close to a good move. Anyone who has looked at the opening knows the options are essentially 3. Nf3, 3. Bc4 and 3. d4.
@ 4:45 what would happen if bxf3 creating the fork and forcing the queen trade. I'm not new to chess, but I'm completely new to trying to understand lines, positions and traps.
What if @ 3:48 instead of developing Nbc6, we push pb6 getting ready to fiancetto Bcb7 attacking the N on f3? This also allows black to eventually castle king's side with a monster force on the queen's side?
i think, that non one let the black queen go to 4h {2min 57sec}... even in a faster game... This video is a lost of time, analysing a mistake, the procedure of a mistake.... are u joking?????
@felix11245 continue with the plan... bring the white bishop out to threaten the knight, putting 2 peices on the knght (queen and bishop) and now u can castle queens side bringing out the rook.
expect you messed up. when they move white queen to G2 to do trade you should take the horse on F3 and have the queen between your queen and your bishop. Leading to another piece.
on 4:45 when white's queen goes to g2 to trade queens, can't the bishop just take the knight first, after the queen takes black's queen, then bishop takes queen and won a knight?
White doesn't need to waste moves with pawn pushes to c3 and d4. d3 followed with development of the queen side and castling long is dangerous enough for black.
I don't see anybody here knowing what they are talking about. I have played this exact line more times than I can count. The first thing any of you should notice is that; although black is up a rook, his queenis practically inactive. It is more like white traded his queen for a rook. White shouldn't be wasting any tempo trying to 'trap' an already trapped piece!! Black is technically winning, but the white e pawn is stunting his development.
@kweetvanniks I now got it, you can take a pawn like that if your oponent moves the twostep jump with the pawn and you can immediately move like that. It's a rule.
In 4:8 the white player can play his pawn to h3 protecting the g4 square and his pawn will continue be protected, in this time by the bishop. If this happen the black's trap will have some problems! jrobichess or someone, can you answer me what the black player is suppose to do in this situation please.
Well, I would accept the pawn and play the fischer defence, 3...d6
but if you do not want to accept the gambit pawn, it's interesting to play a counter gambit; 2...d5. White's usual reply is 3 exd5, and you can play 3...c6. you'll be leading the development if white captures on c6 (you recapture with your knight).
Don't forget the bishop being attacked by the pawn. It's about a pawn worth of material better for black if it just takes the queen first in that position. Thanks for checking out the vid
@jrobichess at 4:45, after the white queen moves to G2, why not play the black rook to e8 forcing check. Then after white king moves to D1, the black bishop can move to F3, forcing check again (and the white queen being trapped, saving the black queen?
@TheUglyDuckling123 Good Move, but its more likely that White would move his king to D2 instead. What black should do instead in this position is to capture white's knight on f3, also defending the queen, allowing the queen trade to happen that way, leaving white an extra minor piece ahead.
@TheUglyDuckling123 because white will play kingF2, and then black wont be able to do anything to make white's life worse. it will all come as video says.
@jrobichess suppose after P-d4 B-g4 white then takes the bishop on c5 ? would it be qxf3 qxf3 bxf3 ? doesn't it look as if they are equal except white has some dangerous pawns?
@melboy1233 first of all it's called a pawn not a poon.. secondly that is a legal move called en passant. Look it up if you want. It is basically when a double pawn move is made and an opposing pawn is adjacent to it,it can take the pawn and go one square ahead of the taken pawn.
Thanks for the vid. I find all of them very useful and practical towards my chess game.
However, I feel this example is pretty lame. I've never seen a player capture the pawn on E5. 99.9% of the time their second move is Knight F3, blocking the queen's attack.
Are there other solutions how to defend against it? I think only a beginner would capture the e5 pawn on the second move allowing the queen to make that check...
I might be wrong, but I think that another playable move after Qg2 (4:44) is Bxf3. The two responses I noticed were (1. Qxh1 Bxh1 2. xc5) or the blunder (1. Kf2 Bxg2 2. Bxg2 Qxh2).
@macewindu210 Yeah! Looks like that'll give white the knight in addition to the queen swap. I don't think anyone would do Kf2, though, unless they were complete beginners.
ssssssspps,It has nothing to do about the fact of the pawn being in front of the queen.This move is called en passant, it's one of the chess extraordinary moves,like castling. When a white pawn is in the 5th rank or a black pawn is in the 4th he can take a pawn that moves two squares as if it only moved one square. But remember that it's only legal in the first opportunity, if you don't take the pawn in your next move, you can't take it by en passant later.
After Black takes White Rook, white Queen Can trade Right away.. the dark Bishop can do nothin to stop white from trading..from what i can see .. some1 tell me if im wrong
At 4:45, it is better for black to capture the knight with his bishop. This causes black to gain material, and if the white queen kills the black queen, the bishop can kill the white queen.
Hi jrobi, thanks for the great vids, you really inspired me to rediscover the game! If you aren't too busy i'd love to see an exploration of the Blackburne Shilling gambit and the Ponziani opening, otherwise keep up the good work! Cheers
At 4:45, before trading queens, why not come in with the rook and check? Or if not, why not take the knight before trading queens? That way, wouldn't you be up in material after trading queens?
10. Qg2?? would actually be a blunder due to 10...Bxf3, after the trade of queens with 11.Qxh1, Bxh1 and the capture of black's bishop on c5 with 12. dxc5, white is still left a rook down and in a losing position. In my opinion, better would be 10. Nbd2 holding onto the piece on f3 and still threatening dxc5. but either way, great videos =] keep em comin
When chess was first born the pawn could only move one square at a time. To speed the game up it was decided that the pawn should be allowed to move one or two squares on its first move. The two square option would have removed the advantage of positioning pawns so as to block advancement. En passant was universally accepted as the appropriate solution and it has been an official rule ever since. New players always have a hard time accepting this rule along with castling which is also real.
TomKaren1994 1 week ago
wait , in 4:06 I thought that the pawn can only capture diagonally ? I don't understand how did he capture him ! Help
nevermore7755 1 month ago
@nevermore7755
It's called "en passant".
Just google it or search on wikipedia.
Digifier 1 month ago
Fucking hell it took 1:34 minutes long for this video to actually start.
LynxCoding 1 month ago
the video keeps stopping at 4:21
OlympicS12Jan 1 month ago
what is the name of this software and how can i get it?
ElQuesoDeMejico 1 month ago
at 4:45 after Qg2 u can play bxf3 and win more material
0xan4xan0 2 months ago
@jrobichess at 3:55, why not WHITE move the bishop to g2(Bg2) to trap the queen, so it's trapped?
chucknorrisnguyen 2 months ago
@chucknorrisnguyen it doesnt really matter. you're already a whole rook down.
theichorvile 2 months ago
@theichorvile no nvm cuz then the king would be in chech(what do you a whole rook down: its CONFUSING??)
chucknorrisnguyen 2 months ago
moving white queen to G2 is a stupid move
whereitisat 3 months ago
4:06, what's happened here? the white pawn takes and moves down the board? is that a glitch or is it legal in chess?
Kefco2k9 4 months ago
@Kefco2k9 it's legal; it's called "en passant".
NYCBG 4 months ago in playlist Chess Traps
@NYCBG alright cheers, how does it work and when does it apply then mate?
Kefco2k9 4 months ago
@Kefco2k9 Check out Youtube video, "En Passant Rule for Chess"
NYCBG 4 months ago
It doesn't matter it is better to trade queens because after ...Bxf3 Qxh1 ...Bxh1 dxc5 black is not as good as the line given in the video. Oh and there is a check ...Re8+ @squirellOFC
yungf4st 5 months ago
thank you
ears61 5 months ago
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what do you do if your bishop gets threatened by a pawn from white?
cnmarine2006 6 months ago
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cnmarine2006 6 months ago
After Qg2 there's no need to check from e8, black can just take the night on f3!!
Cherchelios 6 months ago
@Cherchelios ....what? There are no checks from e8, and the Queen doesn't move to Qg2 except when accepting the Queen trade.
SquirrellOFC 5 months ago
Why not move Kd2 after Bg4?
1nf4m0uz 6 months ago
after white put another pawn as a gambit..he should move knight to F3..no need to capture black pawn at 2:45..
pie5387 6 months ago
Wait how does the white pawn get to capture the black pawn at 4:07
yeal9320 7 months ago
@yeal9320 , en passant
Nadarvish 7 months ago
This is great. Thank you!
ChickityChoice 7 months ago
i think the Bc5 line is very rarely seen b/c rather than play d3, he can choose between plans involving the immediate bc4 and possible attacks on the f7 pawn or the immediate c3 and d4 to gain a tempo on black's bishop on c5. either way, i think these lines offer much more promising chances for white. typically black responds with the immediate exf4 (attempting to hold on to the pawn) or plans involving d6 and maintaining the central pawn on e5.
OnlineChessLessons 9 months ago
good !!!
0603305 9 months ago
i still dont get it. why bishop to g4 forces a queen trade?
expectabledotnet 9 months ago
@expectabledotnet cos bisho takes knight f3 for free
anyway after Qg2 Bxf3 wins knight anyway :)
krruger79 8 months ago
@expectabledotnet Because Re8 will pin the queen, while the b@g4 + Q@ h1 are double attacking the knight.
Thilindel 7 months ago
@expectabledotnet , I think It will lose the Knight on f3 (attacked by two pieces, Queen on h1 and the Bishop) white is in a bad position. After that, if the Rook on a8 were to be moved to e8, will make it very difficult for white's queen. Better to get rid of Black's queen. (But, I may be wrong, would like to see other responses)
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@expectabledotnet, seems like Thilindel's move order might be better. "Because Re8 will pin the queen, while the b@g4 + Q@ h1 are double attacking the knight."
Nadarvish 7 months ago
@expectabledotnet Its because the rook can come out to e8 winning the queen, the queen and bishop both attack the knight. There is a double threat to win more material. To avoid this situation the queen has to trade.
RocketSlime1997 7 months ago
what computer system / software allows you put plug moves? recommendations???
colemontelongo 10 months ago
Jrobi, you really made great achievements in these videos! I love them!
Deliquent2006 10 months ago
if the pawn goes to f4, can't the queen come to a4 then take the pawn sitting on f4?
jollydemaya 11 months ago
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aSmarting 11 months ago
@currentlyangry
To the nub who posted this display of ignorance. Pawns move and take other pawns in an irregular fashion. That was called "en passe" or "en passant". Look up something that you dont understand on wiki or google.
decelxvi 11 months ago
Awesome video!
ApalosRocks 11 months ago
@2:41 Knight to F3 instead?
IdiosyncraticChild 11 months ago
This looks very similar to the Damiano Defense (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6?!) lines after 3.Nxe5 fxe5??, only the roles of White and Black are reversed.
Both demonstrate the danger of moving your f-pawn early. For the King's Gambit it is okay, but only if you are careful, and in this example White clearly isn't.
gmmatthew1 11 months ago
whats a perfect computer?
DuendeDude 1 year ago
Will try this one day!
Bmorecare4 1 year ago
What would be, if white pays at 4:05 d2 d4 ? What could the bishop do, to helpstill the queen?
Regards from Germany :)
Leutwein 1 year ago
@Leutwein
Well i guess after d4 you could just play Bg4 forcing queens trade as shown and later on move dark square bishop. Th position after is quite the same.
D000min 1 year ago
@D000min Dankeschön :-) Thank you very much
Leutwein 1 year ago
I am fairly new to the world of chess and I was wondering why would the pawn not jsut take the bishop on C5 instead of forcing a queen trade as I assume if you were to do what I suggested, the bishop on G4 would take the knight f3... look at 4:38 in the video if you are wondering what point i am talking about.
dcoleman49 1 year ago
@dcoleman49
i'll tell you one thing: just take a look at the rook on a8
goldbuddah 1 year ago
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dcoleman49 1 year ago
@goldbuddah I understand that the rook could pin the queen to the king however, the knight could block the threat and so could the bishop and save the queen...
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@goldbuddah I understand that the rook could pin the queen to the king however, he could block the threat by using the bishop and save the queen...
dcoleman49 1 year ago
@goldbuddah sorry, not the night, I loked again, it is pinned to the queen! but the bishop could stop the threat
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Nice vids. Instead of Bc5, I did f6. Then white kicked my butt with the same moves your black kicks white's butt. Literally the same moves
DaveBlackism 1 year ago
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DaveBlackism 1 year ago
i stopped before 3 mins because no one who knows plays the KG would take the e pawn -- unless they are already a weak player.
paulparanoid 1 year ago
@paulparanoid Yes but I believe Jrobi said that it would be useful if your BLITZ games? Therefore, they don't have much time to think, but you do have a point, advanced blitz players might not fall for this trap. A good lesson to beginners. Another job well done Jrobi.
kbcw123456 1 year ago
@kbcw123456 - Depends on your definition of "advanced", maybe. I'm not trying to be negative - if this trap works for people, great! But in my club experience any player worth his salt who plays the KG has studied at least a bit of the theory and thus would know better than to take the e5 pawn. The KG is a non-standard opening and thus, again in my experience, is very rarely played by people without at least some book study under their belt.
paulparanoid 1 year ago
32 people missed the thums up button...-.-
anyway, sweet! :D
Foosofdeath 1 year ago
jrobi: Technology has ruined the King's Gambit. In the 70s I was a high school player playing in state championships, using the opening over and over because no one else knew it. In fact, many had never seen it. I was unstoppable playing White. Now... not so much. Hardly at all, actually. ARGH!
TomKaren1994 1 year ago
Hello jrobi ....Greetings from Greece!I am really interested in chess and i wanted to ask you something:Where did you download the analysis board from?Please tell me because i really enjoy your cool videos of chess traps...Send me a link or something and please create a trap where someone accept the free pawn you offer at your fourth video with the Queen's elephant Declined elephant trap...please answer me soon and send me a link to download an analysis board...Thanks a lot ,
A fan of yours....
Billcrazy18 1 year ago
excellent Explaination. Cheers
evilgrade 1 year ago
thanks for the video!
ALVARINBO 1 year ago
en resumen 1 e4 e5 2 f4 Bc5 3 fxe Qh4+ 4 ke2 Qe4#
Medicalcure 1 year ago
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how white pawn captures black pawn from E5 to D6 if the black pone moved to D5
usernamegta4 1 year ago
how white pone captures black pone from E5 to D6 if the black pone moved to D5
usernamegta4 1 year ago
Quick question, how do you set it up for a Computer vs Computer game? As in, what program do you use?
Unfortunately I can't do that currently, and that's how I learn the easiest, is by examples.
RyuLoki 1 year ago
it looks like the opening e4 e5 Nf3 f6 am I right???
MasterJohnnyX 1 year ago
The problem with this trap is that white chooses the King's Gambit, which means he has at least a basic understanding of its theory. 3. fxe5 isn't even close to a good move. Anyone who has looked at the opening knows the options are essentially 3. Nf3, 3. Bc4 and 3. d4.
MrZingnigga 1 year ago
I've been nabbed with this trap in blitz before; it is truly brutal, thanks for the ideas.
redddlord 1 year ago
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redddlord 1 year ago
i always think its so funny that in all your videos, you dont move any pieces for a long time in the beginning
twngrd 1 year ago
@ 4:45 what would happen if bxf3 creating the fork and forcing the queen trade. I'm not new to chess, but I'm completely new to trying to understand lines, positions and traps.
sksmith1247 1 year ago
brable yeah
kranya75 1 year ago
@3:10 white would normally do Nc3
pokemonfan2688 1 year ago
Thanks for the vid! I fell for this trap a few moments ago as white and wanted to see a way to counter.
GwarMaggot 1 year ago
4:08 is a totally impossible move. the pawn moved sideways.
pappasmoke85 1 year ago
@pappasmoke85 That move is called En Passant. Look it up.
xdragon2k 1 year ago
en passant :)
TurkTurkleton 1 year ago
you articulate the moves very well..these videos have a very smooth flow
dougbitful 1 year ago
What if @ 3:48 instead of developing Nbc6, we push pb6 getting ready to fiancetto Bcb7 attacking the N on f3? This also allows black to eventually castle king's side with a monster force on the queen's side?
Rufus702 1 year ago
i think, that non one let the black queen go to 4h {2min 57sec}... even in a faster game... This video is a lost of time, analysing a mistake, the procedure of a mistake.... are u joking?????
albertcioran 1 year ago
thank you i needed that
bakhr1 1 year ago
what would the steps that black would take if the bishop was taken first?
jvega926 1 year ago
@felix11245 continue with the plan... bring the white bishop out to threaten the knight, putting 2 peices on the knght (queen and bishop) and now u can castle queens side bringing out the rook.
da relic
slikdarelic 1 year ago
on 4:40 what if white moves nbd2 ? can i move ..bxd4-cxbd4 then nxd5 ?
is it okay? or is there something wrong ? just cheking it out
foxywizrad 1 year ago
very clear, detailed analysis. Keep up the good videos!
serenadekcs 1 year ago
Thanks Kings Gambit always owns me. Im just so not used to it.
ruerue28 1 year ago
It's called en passant, lit. "in passing."
Cinderelephant 1 year ago
Where do you get your information?
joshuajonme48 1 year ago
i play kings gambit almost every single time with white, and any king's gambit player knows not to take e5 before developing kn to f3.
scarface18707 1 year ago
expect you messed up. when they move white queen to G2 to do trade you should take the horse on F3 and have the queen between your queen and your bishop. Leading to another piece.
quizthree1 1 year ago
on 4:45 when white's queen goes to g2 to trade queens, can't the bishop just take the knight first, after the queen takes black's queen, then bishop takes queen and won a knight?
khingratsaphone 1 year ago
@khingratsaphone then white takes bishop dxc5, so its no better
srikanthpam 1 year ago
Every Chess video on youtube are thumbs up
ogdenvile 1 year ago
4:44 why doesn't Black do Bxf3?
KillerPawn2 1 year ago
this actually opened my mind to traps in chess
Roma9110 1 year ago
isn't the kings gambit also called the bird's openning?
grimstad9 1 year ago
@grimstad9
King's Gambit :
1. e4, e5
2. f4,....
Bird's Opening :
1. f4,....
Both endanger White-King's side...unless your opponent is not clever enough
XD
nerektakeilla 1 year ago
White doesn't need to waste moves with pawn pushes to c3 and d4. d3 followed with development of the queen side and castling long is dangerous enough for black.
demonhorde664 1 year ago
I don't see anybody here knowing what they are talking about. I have played this exact line more times than I can count. The first thing any of you should notice is that; although black is up a rook, his queenis practically inactive. It is more like white traded his queen for a rook. White shouldn't be wasting any tempo trying to 'trap' an already trapped piece!! Black is technically winning, but the white e pawn is stunting his development.
demonhorde664 1 year ago
4:10 the pawn is magical !
kweetvanniks 1 year ago
@kweetvanniks En passant.
testuser564 1 year ago
@kweetvanniks I don't get this, im a total beginner, what happend there with the pawn?
2freet 1 year ago
@2freet I don't even know neither the pawn just flew?
kweetvanniks 1 year ago
@kweetvanniks I now got it, you can take a pawn like that if your oponent moves the twostep jump with the pawn and you can immediately move like that. It's a rule.
2freet 1 year ago
In 4:8 the white player can play his pawn to h3 protecting the g4 square and his pawn will continue be protected, in this time by the bishop. If this happen the black's trap will have some problems! jrobichess or someone, can you answer me what the black player is suppose to do in this situation please.
joseeduardoarantes 1 year ago
Well, I would accept the pawn and play the fischer defence, 3...d6
but if you do not want to accept the gambit pawn, it's interesting to play a counter gambit; 2...d5. White's usual reply is 3 exd5, and you can play 3...c6. you'll be leading the development if white captures on c6 (you recapture with your knight).
know any video on that opening?
LoveSophos 1 year ago
In my opinion it is very unstable opening and though white loses both possitionally and materially he can maintain a good game.but i think that after
1.E4 the best answer is 1...E6 the french defense which is a solid opening.....
king's gambit is not very played
nowdays...or migt the sicilian defence...
i would probably take the pawn though
in king's gambit....any ideas about a stable opening in blitz games ?
kamakis22 2 years ago
@kamakis22 in my opinion the best reply to
1.e4 is 1..c5
testofhp 2 years ago
@ 4:45 isn't Bxf3! better ?
gamegenius4 2 years ago
Don't forget the bishop being attacked by the pawn. It's about a pawn worth of material better for black if it just takes the queen first in that position. Thanks for checking out the vid
jrobichess 2 years ago 10
didn't see that sorry
gamegenius4 2 years ago
@jrobichess
What software do you use during these videos? These chess software that is.
calvinandhodge 1 year ago
@calvinandhodge probably fritz ...
buenotc 1 year ago
@jrobichess you should make vid on the halloween gambit..
xRuShxClUtChx 1 year ago
@jrobichess at 4:45, after the white queen moves to G2, why not play the black rook to e8 forcing check. Then after white king moves to D1, the black bishop can move to F3, forcing check again (and the white queen being trapped, saving the black queen?
TheUglyDuckling123 11 months ago 14
@TheUglyDuckling123 The white king doesn't necessarily have to move to D1. It can move to D2 or F2.
vjdemonx 6 months ago
@TheUglyDuckling123 Good Move, but its more likely that White would move his king to D2 instead. What black should do instead in this position is to capture white's knight on f3, also defending the queen, allowing the queen trade to happen that way, leaving white an extra minor piece ahead.
sonofaspine 6 months ago 2
@TheUglyDuckling123 king would move to D2 or f2
PapaSkwah 4 months ago 6
@PapaSkwah I think King d2 is not an option:
1. King d2, QxQ
2. BxQ, Rook e2+
3.King moves, RxB
and now blacks have an extra piece.
kv310 16 hours ago
@TheUglyDuckling123 because white will play kingF2, and then black wont be able to do anything to make white's life worse. it will all come as video says.
Dejan28flying 2 months ago
@TheUglyDuckling123 genious :D
davidaloca956 1 month ago
@TheUglyDuckling123 Why would blacks want to move King D1 after rook e8? If rook moves to e8, blacks could answer King f2 or Knight e5
kv310 16 hours ago
@jrobichess what if white decides to ignore the bishop at G4 (4.42) and captures the bishop on C5 anyway?
0DemonKiller0 10 months ago
@jrobichess suppose after P-d4 B-g4 white then takes the bishop on c5 ? would it be qxf3 qxf3 bxf3 ? doesn't it look as if they are equal except white has some dangerous pawns?
khasab 9 months ago
yeah white pawn will get black bishop
kwanhui1990 2 years ago
@gamegenius4 what does Bxf3 mean
pianoaddict06 1 year ago
@pianoaddict06 Bishop to F3 and x means you are taking a piece
ic3cold29 1 year ago
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yeah BxNf3 is better why not do it!?
MrJadenyuki77 1 year ago
bxnf3 is way better wins a knight and protects queen so you win!
MrJadenyuki77 1 year ago
@MrJadenyuki77 If Bxf3 then Qxa1, Bxa1 and then dxc5. Now you lost a bishop for a knight, while in the other line you get a pawn more :)
sk8freaker 1 year ago
@gamegenius4 ? retteb !3fxB t'nsi 54:4 @
alinusD 1 year ago
i don't understand this situation 4:05-4:10.. notice the white poon captures black poon..?????
melboy1233 2 years ago
@melboy1233 first of all it's called a pawn not a poon.. secondly that is a legal move called en passant. Look it up if you want. It is basically when a double pawn move is made and an opposing pawn is adjacent to it,it can take the pawn and go one square ahead of the taken pawn.
gamegenius4 2 years ago
what program are you using
CroTomba 2 years ago
rybka
ledgeleaper 2 years ago
gambits are always suspicious
kimadan 2 years ago
Thanks for the vid. I find all of them very useful and practical towards my chess game.
However, I feel this example is pretty lame. I've never seen a player capture the pawn on E5. 99.9% of the time their second move is Knight F3, blocking the queen's attack.
Are there other solutions how to defend against it? I think only a beginner would capture the e5 pawn on the second move allowing the queen to make that check...
cactush2 2 years ago
I like the trap that black plays.. I want to try that out. Thanks for the video.
HaloChaos 2 years ago
if you can, post a video of kings gambit opening
niggaslam 2 years ago
very good explanation ... thanks
ubermensch81 2 years ago 12
I might be wrong, but I think that another playable move after Qg2 (4:44) is Bxf3. The two responses I noticed were (1. Qxh1 Bxh1 2. xc5) or the blunder (1. Kf2 Bxg2 2. Bxg2 Qxh2).
macewindu210 2 years ago
@macewindu210 Yeah! Looks like that'll give white the knight in addition to the queen swap. I don't think anyone would do Kf2, though, unless they were complete beginners.
Bobstew68 2 years ago
Actually, in my second line, after Kf2 Bxg2 Bxg2, I would probably play Qxc1.
macewindu210 2 years ago
4:08 En passant capture, That happened to me the other day, i'd never heard of it... thought it was a mistake in java lol
lucky101man 2 years ago 2
@lucky101man
lol
SpongeInPyjama 2 years ago
so whats that rule at 4:08? pawns can do whatever they want in front of the quen?
ssssssspps 2 years ago
ssssssspps,It has nothing to do about the fact of the pawn being in front of the queen.This move is called en passant, it's one of the chess extraordinary moves,like castling. When a white pawn is in the 5th rank or a black pawn is in the 4th he can take a pawn that moves two squares as if it only moved one square. But remember that it's only legal in the first opportunity, if you don't take the pawn in your next move, you can't take it by en passant later.
Zro0509 2 years ago 3
ahhh, thank u
ssssssspps 2 years ago 11
No, that's an en passant. It's a special move that pawns can do to each other.
OmniNero 2 years ago
I saw a check mate with that move. The loser was freaking out because he didn't know the rule.
drydyboy 2 years ago
thats a nice trap indeed....thanks for the great video! cheers
dreamtheater39 2 years ago
After Black takes White Rook, white Queen Can trade Right away.. the dark Bishop can do nothin to stop white from trading..from what i can see .. some1 tell me if im wrong
Romeo2374 2 years ago
@Romeo2374
Your variation is correct, but white doesn't want to trade Queens with a Rook down. It is black that wants to trade Queens in this position.
serrie85 2 years ago
Yes but black still won the rook so he gained.
forstjorinn 2 years ago
If the knight is taken first (Bxf3) at 4:45 then black will end up with the tempo necessary to obtain the actual material advantage of Bxd6.
1. Qg2, Bxf3
2. Qxh1, Bxh1
3. dxc5
-12 on both sides
107797 2 years ago
At 4:45, it is better for black to capture the knight with his bishop. This causes black to gain material, and if the white queen kills the black queen, the bishop can kill the white queen.
Roxz80 2 years ago
I saw you once on FICS and your blitz rating was below 1200 and you were quick in beginning but blundered towards the end and lost.
alphalafa 2 years ago
Hi jrobi, thanks for the great vids, you really inspired me to rediscover the game! If you aren't too busy i'd love to see an exploration of the Blackburne Shilling gambit and the Ponziani opening, otherwise keep up the good work! Cheers
sugarcubist 2 years ago
can this be used on queens gambit also?
dekulewan 2 years ago
No, it cannot.
Roxz80 2 years ago
At 4:45, before trading queens, why not come in with the rook and check? Or if not, why not take the knight before trading queens? That way, wouldn't you be up in material after trading queens?
LiiChinHo 2 years ago
How should I counter if Bishop goes to D3?
dodapants 2 years ago
on 4:07, how does the pawn attack sideways?
J003S3PH 2 years ago
look up "En passant" on wikipedia
krata77 2 years ago
Yes. It's a move called "En passant". :)
hgeithus 2 years ago
10. Qg2?? would actually be a blunder due to 10...Bxf3, after the trade of queens with 11.Qxh1, Bxh1 and the capture of black's bishop on c5 with 12. dxc5, white is still left a rook down and in a losing position. In my opinion, better would be 10. Nbd2 holding onto the piece on f3 and still threatening dxc5. but either way, great videos =] keep em comin
kvnmkz7 2 years ago
Crisp and concise. Thank you very much.
rage0351 2 years ago
sick trap!
mafajardo 2 years ago
thanks alot for all the really good videos. I really appreciate the help
kaspetto 2 years ago
When white offers exchange, you should take knight with bishop.
Masterponer613 2 years ago 3
what is the best thing to do if white doesn't play fxe5? Is it still ok to accept the gambit? If so, what do you do when white plays d4? Thanks!
xcs05 2 years ago
question, what if they play an immediate queen check , then after pawn g3 they play QE7 what would we play as white?
tave2344 2 years ago
do they use en passant in championship games and what not?
StackynUpRice 2 years ago 2
Of course, it's a rule of the game.
Nadrealis 2 years ago 2
When chess was first born the pawn could only move one square at a time. To speed the game up it was decided that the pawn should be allowed to move one or two squares on its first move. The two square option would have removed the advantage of positioning pawns so as to block advancement. En passant was universally accepted as the appropriate solution and it has been an official rule ever since. New players always have a hard time accepting this rule along with castling which is also real.
soldier4242 2 years ago 2
When white queen exchanges, why don't you take knight with white bishop?You would be up material.
Masterponer613 2 years ago