I enjoyed the video but I don't think that even grandmasters would find this unless they know there is a forced mate in 7. Knowing that gives you a huge advantage because you have to put the king in check....I basically solved it aside from the initial rook move because I knew it was there and im just an amateur....its much more difficult finding something when you don't know if its there
Great series of videos. I have watched the first three and will watch the rest tomorrow. I almost got the solution. Instead I lead with the queen sacrifice knowing that if the black king ever did tread on c1 or d2, Rxe4+ (discovered) and then Rxh4 wins enough material to win. The other paths are the same as in the example. However you first move is ties the game off more efficiently. Good series.
@958933 That would also be winning, but sidestepping that capture leads to checkmate faster. Remember that the goal of the game is to checkmate the opponent. If you can do it in three moves instead of five or ten, then you should. Thanks for watching and sharing your comment. I appreciate it.
What about 1...Nd4 2.Rc1 (White has to defend the pawn on c2, otherwise it's 2...Qxc2+), Re1 3. Rxe1 (Even if white doesn't capture the rook it will be 3...Rxc1# next move), Qxc2+ 4.Ka1, Qxb2#? Or am I missing something?
@Furansowakun I understand where you are coming from, but no, not impossible. I would never have figured it out over the board, but knowing there was a win I kept working on it for maybe 45 minutes before I figured it out. I can say that with some degree of confidence that someone like Shirov or Ivanchuk could get this in under a minute. Calculation skills will improve drastically with some dedication and practice. It's just one part of the game mind you, but an important one. Thanks!
The hard part for me was seeing the queen sac, I thought Qf3 attacking the Rook on e1 and threatening mate on b2 was good, but obviously fails, so I didnt find the forced win.
Speaking for myself, I think the problem with calculation is not calculating but finding the right idea to calculate. And then putting it all together IYSWIM ;)
You're welcome, and I am glad you enjoyed it. It's rare to see an example that involves all the major and minor pieces like this. If anyone else has a nice combination that they'd like to share for use in a video, then I would be happy to use it. Thanks for watching, dontwheynoeko!!
If Ka1 was not possible as a defensive idea, Nc3+ would have been a nice continuation followed up by Rg1 and Nxc3# Once you see that Ka1 is a defensive idea, you start to look for something else, and that's how I found the queen sacrifice idea. Another tip here is that since white has very dangerous threats of his own, you have to find a sequence where you can continue to give check with every move. Thanks for your feedback, Horuspoes!
Nice job. My line started with Nc3+ trying to sac the knight to open the b file, thinking the pawn would have to take and then swing the rook over for check then bring the other knight to the center and win, But as you pointed out , the pawn doesnt have to take and the King just moves and now its back to mate in two for white. Removing the rook first was the best . thanks again, dp
Yes, it is very easy to overlook better defensive for your opponent during the calculation process. It took me a while to see the queen sacrifice which is more forceful since there is no passive defense against it. Thanks for your feedback and for watching the video. I appreciate it.
I enjoyed the video but I don't think that even grandmasters would find this unless they know there is a forced mate in 7. Knowing that gives you a huge advantage because you have to put the king in check....I basically solved it aside from the initial rook move because I knew it was there and im just an amateur....its much more difficult finding something when you don't know if its there
TheMiwaro 1 week ago
I did it!!! In my head!!! i saw all variations!!! in like 3 min!!!!!! NOT KIDDING! Im 12.
Bestchessmind 1 month ago
Great series of videos. I have watched the first three and will watch the rest tomorrow. I almost got the solution. Instead I lead with the queen sacrifice knowing that if the black king ever did tread on c1 or d2, Rxe4+ (discovered) and then Rxh4 wins enough material to win. The other paths are the same as in the example. However you first move is ties the game off more efficiently. Good series.
JohnSNeely 1 month ago
my calculation started from Qc2 check it may not have been as fast but i think it leads to mate aswell
adeoluakano 7 months ago
yes the first rook-move is not necessary for if the white king moves to c1 or d2 (after Nd4+) there is a double check (Re1+ or Rd2+).
great video anyways;)
DrQuasimongo 1 month ago
@958933 That would also be winning, but sidestepping that capture leads to checkmate faster. Remember that the goal of the game is to checkmate the opponent. If you can do it in three moves instead of five or ten, then you should. Thanks for watching and sharing your comment. I appreciate it.
isayoldchap1 9 months ago
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nilsdelmonico 11 months ago
I saw a different combination also leads to mate starts with 1.Qxc2 check
TheVladimirtk 1 year ago
I Got It!!!!
njkinpin3 1 year ago
What about 1...Nd4 2.Rc1 (White has to defend the pawn on c2, otherwise it's 2...Qxc2+), Re1 3. Rxe1 (Even if white doesn't capture the rook it will be 3...Rxc1# next move), Qxc2+ 4.Ka1, Qxb2#? Or am I missing something?
108chess 1 year ago
I did enjoy watching. More to learn. :D
Benson and Tonic
nblfyb 2 years ago
i knew the move of the rooks right but i failed calculating all possibilities right...=(
anyway great vid
stuffyfreerunner 2 years ago
I saw through to the mating the king on
phantomofthedrivein 2 years ago
in 1 minute really ?? O_o In blitz games, even for grandmasters, it seems impossible to see theses moves right ? You don't think so?
Furansowakun 2 years ago
It's almost impossible to see that combination, even for grand Masters right ? ... It's crazy.
Furansowakun 2 years ago
@Furansowakun I understand where you are coming from, but no, not impossible. I would never have figured it out over the board, but knowing there was a win I kept working on it for maybe 45 minutes before I figured it out. I can say that with some degree of confidence that someone like Shirov or Ivanchuk could get this in under a minute. Calculation skills will improve drastically with some dedication and practice. It's just one part of the game mind you, but an important one. Thanks!
isayoldchap1 2 years ago
The hard part for me was seeing the queen sac, I thought Qf3 attacking the Rook on e1 and threatening mate on b2 was good, but obviously fails, so I didnt find the forced win.
Speaking for myself, I think the problem with calculation is not calculating but finding the right idea to calculate. And then putting it all together IYSWIM ;)
dashwood123 2 years ago
very nice and very impressive
fezzjr 2 years ago
Great video!
Majnu2006 2 years ago 3
One of my favourites now.
Thank you very much for this beautiful examlpe!
dontwheynoeko 2 years ago 4
You're welcome, and I am glad you enjoyed it. It's rare to see an example that involves all the major and minor pieces like this. If anyone else has a nice combination that they'd like to share for use in a video, then I would be happy to use it. Thanks for watching, dontwheynoeko!!
isayoldchap1 2 years ago
Beautiful example! I did see the Re1+, but I missed the queen sack and continued Nc3+. Very instructive video indeed, Thanks!
Horuspoes 2 years ago
If Ka1 was not possible as a defensive idea, Nc3+ would have been a nice continuation followed up by Rg1 and Nxc3# Once you see that Ka1 is a defensive idea, you start to look for something else, and that's how I found the queen sacrifice idea. Another tip here is that since white has very dangerous threats of his own, you have to find a sequence where you can continue to give check with every move. Thanks for your feedback, Horuspoes!
isayoldchap1 2 years ago
Nice job. My line started with Nc3+ trying to sac the knight to open the b file, thinking the pawn would have to take and then swing the rook over for check then bring the other knight to the center and win, But as you pointed out , the pawn doesnt have to take and the King just moves and now its back to mate in two for white. Removing the rook first was the best . thanks again, dp
roaddog481 2 years ago
Yes, it is very easy to overlook better defensive for your opponent during the calculation process. It took me a while to see the queen sacrifice which is more forceful since there is no passive defense against it. Thanks for your feedback and for watching the video. I appreciate it.
isayoldchap1 2 years ago