You Loyalist should just keep your mouths shut, stop making excuses, because the rest of the world can’t understand you. You’re a bunch of uneducated goons. You hide behind sky gods & a crown that you don’t even respect of follow. Say what you want about the I.R.A, but it doesn’t excuse your monstrous opinions. In the States we have our own Ian Paisley, but we call him Tom Metzger & only a few thousand people take him seriously.
There should not be International commission into murders committed during the troubles, Police should take out those committing murders & mayhem dead or alive within 1 hour. Marching season is upon us, police should reply with bullets when they are pelted with rocks. Shot the rioter in the leg, then they will disappear .
@GamerElite1000 Before the signing of the GF Agreement, the Combined Loyalist statement stated ''in all sincerity we offer to the loved one's of all innocent victims over the past years true & abject remorse. No amount of words will compensate for the suffering they have undergone''. But there was no apology or remorse when the IRA announced the end of their sectarian/divise campaign, even though their guns claimed twice as many lives as loyalists. I see no apolgies from republicans!
@skoi87 In other words u would preffer to live with a delluded, re-written version of the troubles. Your just another typical IRA apologist, who likes to claim the IRA werent sectarian, then runs away when the facts are placed before him. The fucking 'Green Book' didnt stop the provos murdering my uncle for his religion, and it didnt stop young IRA members calling me a 'black bastard' at his graveside!
@skoi87 So are u denying these sectarain massacres happened? Was Sean Kelly the Shankill Bomber expelled?? And i have no doubt the IRA have a book that says that, but then again Gerry also says he was never in the IRA, so i dont take anything they say seriously!!
@skoi87 Have u never heard of the sectarain massacres at Kingsmill, La Mon, Teeban, Darkley, Enniskillen, Shankill, Bloody Friday, Claudy, Albercorn etc...? Though republican gangs were not always sectarain coz like all bullies they just murdered anyone who got in their way, are u aware that republican groups combined murdered as many catholics as loyalists did? The provos alone murdered over 300 catholics?
Northern Ireland's Assembly members have been lining there pockets while criminals have been killing & kids have been rioting. Sectarian war in Ireland is over, now it is criminal war.There will never be United Ireland because Irish population will commit suicide if they took in Northern Ireland. Police are lining there pockets by pushing paperwork, while streets are taken over by criminals. Only Arshad Khan can punish criminals to fit crime.
I'm from Liverpool and 'Glenny' Barr and Paisley have to be two of the biggest buffoons of Ulster history, like 2 bald men fighting over a comb, we in Liverpool have always seen Ulster as a seperate state controlled over by small minded Individuals, a United Ireland was the only sollution, however power sharing at Stormont is the closest it will come for some while, the UDP could have done that years ago but chose not to,their obdurate intransience cost hundreds of lives.
@MrMarcusirish so you think you in liverpool know exactly what it feels for the protestants in Ulster to be besieged by catholics within and without that want to rip you from your country and hand you over to another? without your consent? maybe if you bothered to know the history of ireland especially northern Ireland, then you'd know why they feel so strongly. Otherwise you speak from the safety of liverpool, and want to determine the majority in NI join a country they are against.
@MrMarcusirish and also you don't seem to even blame the IRA for any of the violence, watch the provo's episode and you'll see the amount of killing they did.
so there term is for god and ulster..but god will punish murder.it grieves him to see these innocent kids killed and to the murderers,you are kidding yourselves if you think you have a special seat in heaven.jog on
The ruling elite with their puppet figurehead,Queen Elizabeth the Second,Strut about on the million of bodies That they have sacrificed to gain their position.Who are they but the inheritors of their ancestors greed and theft? Their blood stained flags, These rulers are common murderers and thieves,But still you bow before them. For how long will the masses be so pathetically manipulated by God, Queen and Country?
yeah kinda woulda had more respect for both if they engaged each other in direct combat, rather than murdering innocent people...thats what was so nasty about this war.
wrong place at the wrong time, things like this happen in conflicts it is regrettable...while most loyalists abhor terrorism..you will find an element within said community that have a sneaky regard for what the butchers did.
wrong place at the wrong time? wtf are you talking about? you dont much about the ira? what about Claudy, La Mon, warrenpoint, Tullyvallen, Bloody Friday?
civillians were not the only ones who got killed in that conflict.
the ra targetted economic targets..however yes civillians did die. Its a tradgedy.
omagh, civillians died. Yet the ruc have been strongly critisied for their handling of the affair. fulton told his mi5 handlers there was a bomb and gave the name and location, but mi5 didnt pass the intel on.
i find it laughable that you actually think omagh is the RUC's fault. i, and many other sensible people, prefer to blame the people who actually put the damn bomb there in the first place.
the IRA was notorious for targetting civillians, which is why both the irish and british governments recognise them as a terrorist organisation. why don't you go and google for the atocities comitted by the IRA so that you can educate yourself, or will i do it for you?
you clearly tried to imply it was the ruc's fault in saying that they didn't handle the affair properly. the bottom line is, the bomb was placed there by a group of terrorists and bank robbers, and you would have to be delusional to think that they only target the military as you do. of course, the omagh bombing isn't the only time something like that happened.
google is a search engine which gives you access to literature. nice try smart ass.
they had been strongly critisised for their handling of the affair..at no one time did i ever state it was their fault.
yes they did target economic targets..they also targetted security forces..and put bombs in the way of civilians.
anyone can put anything on the net, especially google..books however are more an educated informative literature, govedo. the ra were not the only side in the conflict, but loyalist atrocities are all but swept under the carpet.
what do you mean by "put bombs in the way of civillians"? if you mean they tried to kill civillians, then yea, you're right.
google is just a search engine which yields a list of related websites- obviously, you're supposed to read the reliable sites and disregard any unreliable information. it's easy to know the difference.
loyalist atrocities swept under the carpet? are you kidding? EVERYONE knows about the fucked up things they did- but the IRA are every bit as evil as they are.
bombs were placed in areas with a civillian population.
from what ive experienced...most people blame the RA for alot of things, yet loyalist actions such as dublin monaghan/shankill butchers do not recieve the same level of attention.
"bombs... placed in areas with a civillian population"
for the purpose of killing civillians. terrorism.
anyway, im guessing the RA gets more attention because they've been around longer than the loyalist paras and have done more. loyalist paras are really just a group of chavs and drug dealers, so we don't give them attention because none is deserved. however loyalist atrocities certainly are NOT swept under the carpet- the fact that most people despise loyalist paras is proof of that
the loyalists deserve attention because they're utter animals, they colluded with ruc, army..its funny tho the brit govt says they're fighting terrorism..yet the army shared intel with a terror group.
what you said is true, but please remember the difference between the government and rogue army officers. it simply wouldnt be possible as the british government as a whole to help terrorists, without it leaking out to the media, which would cause a storm among the public.
i have to disagree with you on saying that loyalists aren't exposed for their evil actions. if that's true, then how come everyone knows they're evil?
robert philpott said if it wasnt for the army and ruc they could never have targeted republicans.
op banner has alot of good info. Do people know they're evil..most media outlets focus waaay too much on one side.. rather than evenly spreaading criticism
rong rong rong!! the U.V.F is the oldest paramilitary organisation on this island dating back 2 the signing of the covenant in 1912 and its formation in 1913!!! the ira wer a splinter group from the ranks of the irb and the ivf the latter of which was formed up 2 rival the 100000 members the uvf amassed!! if u want a history lesson just ask!! the provos wer onli formed after a split in the ranks of the official ira in the 60/70's wen the oira declared a ceasefire which some objected 2 !!
i don't see the relevance of your reply to anything i said, but anyways...
the UVF does not date back to 1912. that was a completely seperate organisation altogether- the only thing the 1912-UVF and the 1960s-UVF have in common is the same name.
in terms of what the two UVF groups actually DID, they were clearly different groups- the old UVF was loyal to the state, whereas the british government considers the modern UVF to be a terrorist-gangster group.
Hello 1LOYALIST, Read your comment about the UVF dating back to 1912, Yes you were right however the other commentaor did have a point to make about the UVF that arrived in the 60's was different just as the P.I.R.A were a new breed from 69 on wards.
Alot of people think that the conflict in our little part of Ireland was about religion when really it was about nationalist/republican against Unionist/loylaist, Good thing we decided to put on suits and talk. Slan
your an idiot. the IRA never intended to kill a single person other than those connected to british gov./loyalist groups. When people did die incases such as omagh it was when the message was misintrepated or the area failedto be evacuated.
Damage to property was the usual target if not british forces etc
the only idiot here is you, for thinking that placing bombs in towns and churches isn't an attack on civillians. the IRA have caused far more suffering to irish people than the british army, and thus, are enemies of the irish people.
even if what you're saying is correct, damaging property and destroying towns is still ruining the lives of the irish, even if no one is actually killed. time for you to grow up and start living in the real world.
@WARISHELL09 no republicans did not constantly do this. these are three events. these are not actual IRA activity ethier, yes they may have been members, but thats as far as it goes, the leader of the brigade they were in im sure never sat down and said...lets kill this mini bus of prods. they were nothing but biggots who acted on their own initative. actual IRA activity never intended to kill civilians. p.s their was an off duty member of the forces in tullyvallen
@dkr56 There were 5 civillians killed at Tullyvallen, the off duty cop fired back nd forced the IRA to retreat.
You can try and paint the thing you're own way if you want too but the fact remains that these attacks and many more where carried out by republicans, using cover names fools nobody. There were also scores of individuals murdered along the border by the IRA and other groups, they dont get mentioned as the attacks wernt high profile enough.
@annoyingasfcuk ah great u again. one simple answer that doesnt involve u replying. the ira campagin was on a much larger scale than that of every loyalist group combined. so even if civiilians arent targets, theres a good chance there going to kill more than all the loyalists. e.g. a 1000 bombs might go off and kill one person each blast. 1 loyalsit bomb goes off and kills 50.
@annoyingasfcuk no i didnt repeat what u said, you asked how the ira killed more people than all loyalists combined if civilians werent targets. i told you how, becuase they operated on a larger scale.
@dkr56 I didn't ask you anything. I was pointing out the republicans murdered more innocents than loyalists.
Both loyalists and republicans targeted republicans. Republicans pulled Protestant workmen from buses and shot them all dead. The UDA/UVF bombed Catholic bars.
The difference is, loyalists admit they purposely targeted Catholic civilians. Republicans on the other hand cannot admit it.
@annoyingasfcuk Then how did republicans murder more innocents than every loyalist group combined? never asked a question???
no the difference is that ira command condemed the attacks. there is a difference in a sectrian thugs shooting up a bus due to hatred and being ordered to by a commander.
@dkr56 Fucking complete bollocks! Condemned it? The INLA's leadership condemned the Darkley massacre, but yet they supplied the weapons used in the attack?
Fact is. Loyalists always said they would cease murdering innocent Catholics if republicans stopped murdered Protestants, policemen, soldiers etc.
@annoyingasfcuk lol oh i forgot, the attackers vistied the INLA hq earlier that day and asked for some guns to shoot civilians....fucking idiot.
no fact is the loyalists were not in anyway shape of form capable of conducting an operation comparable to that of the IRA. But they had to do something, drive around the falls, pick up a civilian and carve them up. if it wasnt for these brave men, the 6 counties may be under dublin rule i think.
@dkr56 Wrong ballbag. The only people to visit the INLA the day before were UVF gunmen who shot an INLA/IRSP member dead. Darkley was the INLA's response.
Why would loyalists want carry out activities similar to republicans? You'll find loyalists were more than capable of attacking the republic and republicans.
As for carving people up. Yet again, both sides done that. The Shankill butchers were not acting on behalf of the UVF. The had broke away from the leadership.
@annoyingasfcuk mayb youll find that i had a hint of sarcasim in my last comment.
yea im sure they were very capable, did u know michael collins was also capable to keep fighting for another year at least in 1921, but decided he would rather have 26 counties anyway.
@dkr56 Why would I be leaving? I bet you're only about 16 anyway. What books have you read on the troubles and loyalist and republican paramilitaries?
@dkr56 Why would I got back to Scotland? Northern Ireland is my home. Are you going to go back to Northern Europe? Would you have wanted Wolfe Tone to go 'back to Scotland'?
What about people with European ancestry living in the Americas? Should they 'go home'?
You're not 16 then? You are just incredibly thick and ignorant. I'm asking because you said I told 'minimal truth'.
@annoyingasfcuk course i wouldnt, wolfe tone wanted a independant ireland, he is the source of republicanism. the difference between him and you is that u want british rule. that why you should leave, if your obsessed with britain so much, why not return to your mainland??
@dkr56 LMAO. So only people who agree with your views can stay? FFS! As for Tone being the 'source' (?!) of republicanism. I thought rebels were fighting against the British long before Tone and his Lundys turned up?
Yet more complete and utter bollocks from republicans. I'm obsessed with Britain? WTF are you on about?!
I am Northern Irish. NI is part of the United Kingdom. I wish this to remain so. How the fuck does this make me 'obsessed'?
@annoyingasfcuk no thats not what im saying at all. yes the rebals were fighting long before but tone brought in a new era. northern irish? no such thing, one land and its called ireland, you are irish, still unionist but just as irish as me whether u like it or not. What was needed instead of redmond was a leader who armed a large force and removed the obstacles stopping ireland from being independant. aka, genocide.
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You Loyalist should just keep your mouths shut, stop making excuses, because the rest of the world can’t understand you. You’re a bunch of uneducated goons. You hide behind sky gods & a crown that you don’t even respect of follow. Say what you want about the I.R.A, but it doesn’t excuse your monstrous opinions. In the States we have our own Ian Paisley, but we call him Tom Metzger & only a few thousand people take him seriously.
GENERALJOHNNYREBEL 1 month ago
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GENERALJOHNNYREBEL 1 month ago
For God,Queen,and Ulster(Ireland) loyalist,and republicans have one thing in common dis like for Britian and Westminster.
TheQuinn8 3 months ago
billy your time will come.. scum
boy1belfast 3 months ago
CATHOLIC SCUM
sootwhinz 3 months ago
why dont they move out of the north there fucking trespassing
pubkrocknroll 4 months ago
i love to give paisley a box what a bigot
JohnAdams198805 4 months ago
animals on both sides. vile nasty stupid little boys with guns. fk them and their mothers. fk the ira fk ireland
4chan4evar 5 months ago
animals on both sides. vile nasty stupid little boys with guns. fk them and their mothers. fk the ira fk ireland
4chan4evar 5 months ago
god and ulster.gid volunteers ftp
TheFlo1690 8 months ago
@TheFlo1690 Harold wilson said what he thought and that was the truth.They were only british when it suited.
baillie67 3 months ago
CLASS
ILoveFootie2510 8 months ago
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There should not be International commission into murders committed during the troubles, Police should take out those committing murders & mayhem dead or alive within 1 hour. Marching season is upon us, police should reply with bullets when they are pelted with rocks. Shot the rioter in the leg, then they will disappear .
justicepartyuk 9 months ago
never heard of an innocent cathoic
sootwhinz 9 months ago
Filthy excuse for human beings
Burncourtable 9 months ago
@GamerElite1000 Before the signing of the GF Agreement, the Combined Loyalist statement stated ''in all sincerity we offer to the loved one's of all innocent victims over the past years true & abject remorse. No amount of words will compensate for the suffering they have undergone''. But there was no apology or remorse when the IRA announced the end of their sectarian/divise campaign, even though their guns claimed twice as many lives as loyalists. I see no apolgies from republicans!
uobcv 9 months ago
@uobcv Who cares! at least there is Peace in Northern Ireland surely that is more important than words?
reemism 9 months ago
scumbags
irishrepublican756 10 months ago
@skoi87 In other words u would preffer to live with a delluded, re-written version of the troubles. Your just another typical IRA apologist, who likes to claim the IRA werent sectarian, then runs away when the facts are placed before him. The fucking 'Green Book' didnt stop the provos murdering my uncle for his religion, and it didnt stop young IRA members calling me a 'black bastard' at his graveside!
uobcv 10 months ago
@uobcv sorry for that. racism is just stupid anywhere, anyplace. all the best from another continent
skinupfast 10 months ago
@uobcv sorry for your loss but an ireland unfree will NEVER be at peace
irishrepublican756 10 months ago
@skoi87 So are u denying these sectarain massacres happened? Was Sean Kelly the Shankill Bomber expelled?? And i have no doubt the IRA have a book that says that, but then again Gerry also says he was never in the IRA, so i dont take anything they say seriously!!
uobcv 10 months ago
@skoi87 Have u never heard of the sectarain massacres at Kingsmill, La Mon, Teeban, Darkley, Enniskillen, Shankill, Bloody Friday, Claudy, Albercorn etc...? Though republican gangs were not always sectarain coz like all bullies they just murdered anyone who got in their way, are u aware that republican groups combined murdered as many catholics as loyalists did? The provos alone murdered over 300 catholics?
uobcv 11 months ago
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Northern Ireland's Assembly members have been lining there pockets while criminals have been killing & kids have been rioting. Sectarian war in Ireland is over, now it is criminal war.There will never be United Ireland because Irish population will commit suicide if they took in Northern Ireland. Police are lining there pockets by pushing paperwork, while streets are taken over by criminals. Only Arshad Khan can punish criminals to fit crime.
justicepartyuk 11 months ago
I'm from Liverpool and 'Glenny' Barr and Paisley have to be two of the biggest buffoons of Ulster history, like 2 bald men fighting over a comb, we in Liverpool have always seen Ulster as a seperate state controlled over by small minded Individuals, a United Ireland was the only sollution, however power sharing at Stormont is the closest it will come for some while, the UDP could have done that years ago but chose not to,their obdurate intransience cost hundreds of lives.
MrMarcusirish 1 year ago
@MrMarcusirish so you think you in liverpool know exactly what it feels for the protestants in Ulster to be besieged by catholics within and without that want to rip you from your country and hand you over to another? without your consent? maybe if you bothered to know the history of ireland especially northern Ireland, then you'd know why they feel so strongly. Otherwise you speak from the safety of liverpool, and want to determine the majority in NI join a country they are against.
phantomsuccour 11 months ago
@MrMarcusirish and also you don't seem to even blame the IRA for any of the violence, watch the provo's episode and you'll see the amount of killing they did.
phantomsuccour 11 months ago
aNDY TYRIE ,
sootwhinz 1 year ago
so there term is for god and ulster..but god will punish murder.it grieves him to see these innocent kids killed and to the murderers,you are kidding yourselves if you think you have a special seat in heaven.jog on
missatomickitten 1 year ago
There was vermin on both sides . . . Irishmen killing other Irishmen. All participants should be ashamed of themselves.
macbeth870 1 year ago
There is amnesty to those who committed terrorism before good Friday agreement.
justicepartyuk 1 year ago
what scum what are they fighting for beside drugs they have no agenda
ThePadraigdeburca 1 year ago
sammy duddy thats a nice irish name you have
papadoc711 1 year ago
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The ruling elite with their puppet figurehead,Queen Elizabeth the Second,Strut about on the million of bodies That they have sacrificed to gain their position.Who are they but the inheritors of their ancestors greed and theft? Their blood stained flags, These rulers are common murderers and thieves,But still you bow before them. For how long will the masses be so pathetically manipulated by God, Queen and Country?
dethbed77 1 year ago
up the IRA !
calBHA1 1 year ago
@calBHA1 lol at the defeated army.
garyscott 1 year ago
I'm curious does anyone here truly want peace and reconciliation? It doesn't sound like it for the most part
Quigg06 1 year ago
@Quigg06 its a old video
GH169 1 year ago
bill craig is a cunt.
26and6 1 year ago
@26and6 yopu are a bigger cunt.
garyscott 1 year ago
@garyscott pretty sure "yopu" isnt a word you retard. dont think i compare with a murdering scumbag though
26and6 1 year ago
Glen Barr's story about Paisley being moved down the table at the strike meeting was hilarious.
littleemily 1 year ago 9
i dont regret killing two tottally inoccent catholic boys enough said . your fukin vermin
croppiebhoy 1 year ago 25
@croppiebhoy Greenland?
djsmurfie 1 year ago
@croppiebhoy wish u were one of them, any enemy of our country deserve the punishment
ulstercriag 1 year ago
@croppiebhoy pity you weren't killed you piece of scum.
garyscott 1 year ago
@croppiebhoy It appears that you have had a Catholic education.
Dim Tim.
MsTheFonz 1 year ago
@croppiebhoy but to you, catholics killing protestants is fine
phantomsuccour 11 months ago
@croppiebhoy shoot two kill
hutchyer69 7 months ago
*Targeted civilians
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
Eddie Kinner "no, it was a sectarian bar". That is awful to say
0879664946 1 year ago
UDA SCUM
belfast1990 2 years ago
These people are sorely lacking a strong educational system. They seem to be breed on religion which in turn sparks violence.
Hauler24 2 years ago
How can we all move forward when all people on both sides are not willing to admit they have dont wrong
1987savage 2 years ago 2
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BritishWarLord 2 years ago
IRA and UDA never shot it out with each other did they. pussy's. JUST KILLED INNOCENTS
cdwordsworth26 2 years ago
yeah kinda woulda had more respect for both if they engaged each other in direct combat, rather than murdering innocent people...thats what was so nasty about this war.
Balefan83 2 years ago
can some one tell me in northern irleland how far apart are the 2 diffrent neigbourhoods loyal and rebel?
patsyd80 2 years ago
Very close i think mate, they're seperated by a very tall wall with barb wire, abit like berlin was.
DoubleBubble1984 2 years ago
up the fuckin RA.
ChopperM16 2 years ago
scumbags.
peacefrog1916 3 years ago
micahel loughran says hello to billy hutchinson hi billy weel meet again
gerrymoke 3 years ago
fuck.
look at these orange scum, having no remorse for kiling killing 'catholic' civillians.
They wouldnt targert the individual members of the RA because they knew it would be a shit fight.
so they opted for the cowardly option instead.
Scum
Bhouncer 3 years ago
like the IRA then scum
LukePhillipsWINS 2 years ago
your own volunteers admitted they killed those who had no links with the ra.
Bhouncer 2 years ago
"your own" how are they mine?? yes just like the ira they killed hundreds of innocent people... scum
LukePhillipsWINS 2 years ago
when i meant your own i was referring to loyalist paramilitaries..not directed personally.
innocent people were killed, however..that was not the goal of the ra as an organisation.
Bhouncer 2 years ago
"it was never their goal"
tell that to the people who lost sons daughters, fathers, mothers etc.
LukePhillipsWINS 2 years ago
wrong place at the wrong time, things like this happen in conflicts it is regrettable...while most loyalists abhor terrorism..you will find an element within said community that have a sneaky regard for what the butchers did.
Bhouncer 2 years ago
wrong place at the wrong time? wtf are you talking about? you dont much about the ira? what about Claudy, La Mon, warrenpoint, Tullyvallen, Bloody Friday?
LukePhillipsWINS 2 years ago
the was one killed in a cross fire between the ra and the army, anderson town i think.
theres always idiots within such organisations who have the intent on carrying out shamefull acts..
Bhouncer 2 years ago
"innocent people were killed, however..that was not the goal of the ra as an organisation."
that's complete nonsense, and every rational, sensible person knows it.
the IRA targetted innocent people, just as the loyalist paramilitaries did. the omagh bombing was a terrorist act, intended to kill civillians only.
33LB 2 years ago
civillians were not the only ones who got killed in that conflict.
the ra targetted economic targets..however yes civillians did die. Its a tradgedy.
omagh, civillians died. Yet the ruc have been strongly critisied for their handling of the affair. fulton told his mi5 handlers there was a bomb and gave the name and location, but mi5 didnt pass the intel on.
Bhouncer 2 years ago
i find it laughable that you actually think omagh is the RUC's fault. i, and many other sensible people, prefer to blame the people who actually put the damn bomb there in the first place.
the IRA was notorious for targetting civillians, which is why both the irish and british governments recognise them as a terrorist organisation. why don't you go and google for the atocities comitted by the IRA so that you can educate yourself, or will i do it for you?
33LB 2 years ago
did i say it was the ruc's fault? read it again.
the vol's that put the bomb there should be punished...the ruc should be investigated because of the handling.
i dont use google for such purposes, i'd rather literature.
Bhouncer 2 years ago
you clearly tried to imply it was the ruc's fault in saying that they didn't handle the affair properly. the bottom line is, the bomb was placed there by a group of terrorists and bank robbers, and you would have to be delusional to think that they only target the military as you do. of course, the omagh bombing isn't the only time something like that happened.
google is a search engine which gives you access to literature. nice try smart ass.
33LB 2 years ago
they had been strongly critisised for their handling of the affair..at no one time did i ever state it was their fault.
yes they did target economic targets..they also targetted security forces..and put bombs in the way of civilians.
anyone can put anything on the net, especially google..books however are more an educated informative literature, govedo. the ra were not the only side in the conflict, but loyalist atrocities are all but swept under the carpet.
Bhouncer 2 years ago
what do you mean by "put bombs in the way of civillians"? if you mean they tried to kill civillians, then yea, you're right.
google is just a search engine which yields a list of related websites- obviously, you're supposed to read the reliable sites and disregard any unreliable information. it's easy to know the difference.
loyalist atrocities swept under the carpet? are you kidding? EVERYONE knows about the fucked up things they did- but the IRA are every bit as evil as they are.
33LB 2 years ago
bombs were placed in areas with a civillian population.
from what ive experienced...most people blame the RA for alot of things, yet loyalist actions such as dublin monaghan/shankill butchers do not recieve the same level of attention.
Bhouncer 2 years ago 3
"bombs... placed in areas with a civillian population"
for the purpose of killing civillians. terrorism.
anyway, im guessing the RA gets more attention because they've been around longer than the loyalist paras and have done more. loyalist paras are really just a group of chavs and drug dealers, so we don't give them attention because none is deserved. however loyalist atrocities certainly are NOT swept under the carpet- the fact that most people despise loyalist paras is proof of that
33LB 2 years ago
the loyalists deserve attention because they're utter animals, they colluded with ruc, army..its funny tho the brit govt says they're fighting terrorism..yet the army shared intel with a terror group.
Bhouncer 2 years ago
what you said is true, but please remember the difference between the government and rogue army officers. it simply wouldnt be possible as the british government as a whole to help terrorists, without it leaking out to the media, which would cause a storm among the public.
i have to disagree with you on saying that loyalists aren't exposed for their evil actions. if that's true, then how come everyone knows they're evil?
they're disarming now anyways. good riddance.
33LB 2 years ago
robert philpott said if it wasnt for the army and ruc they could never have targeted republicans.
op banner has alot of good info. Do people know they're evil..most media outlets focus waaay too much on one side.. rather than evenly spreaading criticism
Bhouncer 2 years ago
True but the RUC still put hundreds of loyalists behind bars and thats a fact, it was a dirty war
GH169 2 years ago
rong rong rong!! the U.V.F is the oldest paramilitary organisation on this island dating back 2 the signing of the covenant in 1912 and its formation in 1913!!! the ira wer a splinter group from the ranks of the irb and the ivf the latter of which was formed up 2 rival the 100000 members the uvf amassed!! if u want a history lesson just ask!! the provos wer onli formed after a split in the ranks of the official ira in the 60/70's wen the oira declared a ceasefire which some objected 2 !!
1LOYALIST 2 years ago
i don't see the relevance of your reply to anything i said, but anyways...
the UVF does not date back to 1912. that was a completely seperate organisation altogether- the only thing the 1912-UVF and the 1960s-UVF have in common is the same name.
in terms of what the two UVF groups actually DID, they were clearly different groups- the old UVF was loyal to the state, whereas the british government considers the modern UVF to be a terrorist-gangster group.
33LB 2 years ago
Hello 1LOYALIST, Read your comment about the UVF dating back to 1912, Yes you were right however the other commentaor did have a point to make about the UVF that arrived in the 60's was different just as the P.I.R.A were a new breed from 69 on wards.
Alot of people think that the conflict in our little part of Ireland was about religion when really it was about nationalist/republican against Unionist/loylaist, Good thing we decided to put on suits and talk. Slan
BringoldMacanbhard 2 years ago
@33LB
your an idiot. the IRA never intended to kill a single person other than those connected to british gov./loyalist groups. When people did die incases such as omagh it was when the message was misintrepated or the area failedto be evacuated.
Damage to property was the usual target if not british forces etc
dkr56 1 year ago
the only idiot here is you, for thinking that placing bombs in towns and churches isn't an attack on civillians. the IRA have caused far more suffering to irish people than the british army, and thus, are enemies of the irish people.
even if what you're saying is correct, damaging property and destroying towns is still ruining the lives of the irish, even if no one is actually killed. time for you to grow up and start living in the real world.
33LB 1 year ago
@dkr56 How deluded are you mate, republicans constantly targetted innocent people, have you never heard about Kingsmills, Tullyvallen or Darkley?
WARISHELL09 1 year ago
@WARISHELL09 no republicans did not constantly do this. these are three events. these are not actual IRA activity ethier, yes they may have been members, but thats as far as it goes, the leader of the brigade they were in im sure never sat down and said...lets kill this mini bus of prods. they were nothing but biggots who acted on their own initative. actual IRA activity never intended to kill civilians. p.s their was an off duty member of the forces in tullyvallen
dkr56 1 year ago
@dkr56 There were 5 civillians killed at Tullyvallen, the off duty cop fired back nd forced the IRA to retreat.
You can try and paint the thing you're own way if you want too but the fact remains that these attacks and many more where carried out by republicans, using cover names fools nobody. There were also scores of individuals murdered along the border by the IRA and other groups, they dont get mentioned as the attacks wernt high profile enough.
WARISHELL09 1 year ago
@dkr56 If that was the case. Then how did republicans murder more innocents than every loyalist group combined?
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
@annoyingasfcuk ah great u again. one simple answer that doesnt involve u replying. the ira campagin was on a much larger scale than that of every loyalist group combined. so even if civiilians arent targets, theres a good chance there going to kill more than all the loyalists. e.g. a 1000 bombs might go off and kill one person each blast. 1 loyalsit bomb goes off and kills 50.
dkr56 1 year ago
@dkr56 LOL! What an answer! So you have just repeated what I said.
Thanks.
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
@annoyingasfcuk no i didnt repeat what u said, you asked how the ira killed more people than all loyalists combined if civilians werent targets. i told you how, becuase they operated on a larger scale.
dkr56 1 year ago
@dkr56 I didn't ask you anything. I was pointing out the republicans murdered more innocents than loyalists.
Both loyalists and republicans targeted republicans. Republicans pulled Protestant workmen from buses and shot them all dead. The UDA/UVF bombed Catholic bars.
The difference is, loyalists admit they purposely targeted Catholic civilians. Republicans on the other hand cannot admit it.
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
@annoyingasfcuk Then how did republicans murder more innocents than every loyalist group combined? never asked a question???
no the difference is that ira command condemed the attacks. there is a difference in a sectrian thugs shooting up a bus due to hatred and being ordered to by a commander.
dkr56 1 year ago
@dkr56 Fucking complete bollocks! Condemned it? The INLA's leadership condemned the Darkley massacre, but yet they supplied the weapons used in the attack?
Fact is. Loyalists always said they would cease murdering innocent Catholics if republicans stopped murdered Protestants, policemen, soldiers etc.
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
@annoyingasfcuk lol oh i forgot, the attackers vistied the INLA hq earlier that day and asked for some guns to shoot civilians....fucking idiot.
no fact is the loyalists were not in anyway shape of form capable of conducting an operation comparable to that of the IRA. But they had to do something, drive around the falls, pick up a civilian and carve them up. if it wasnt for these brave men, the 6 counties may be under dublin rule i think.
dkr56 1 year ago
@dkr56 Wrong ballbag. The only people to visit the INLA the day before were UVF gunmen who shot an INLA/IRSP member dead. Darkley was the INLA's response.
Why would loyalists want carry out activities similar to republicans? You'll find loyalists were more than capable of attacking the republic and republicans.
As for carving people up. Yet again, both sides done that. The Shankill butchers were not acting on behalf of the UVF. The had broke away from the leadership.
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
@annoyingasfcuk mayb youll find that i had a hint of sarcasim in my last comment.
yea im sure they were very capable, did u know michael collins was also capable to keep fighting for another year at least in 1921, but decided he would rather have 26 counties anyway.
dkr56 1 year ago
@dkr56 No shit. You'll find a hint of truth in mine. Thanks for the history lesson.
Dipshit.
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
@annoyingasfcuk hmmm, looking back and yet, minimal truth.
lol, just as i was starting to like u ur leaving. wat a pity
mayb well met on another page
dkr56 1 year ago
@dkr56 Why would I be leaving? I bet you're only about 16 anyway. What books have you read on the troubles and loyalist and republican paramilitaries?
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
@annoyingasfcuk i dno, mayb u decided to go back to scotland were u came from in the first place?
nope not 16, and read a few books on it, why do you ask?
dkr56 1 year ago
@dkr56 Why would I got back to Scotland? Northern Ireland is my home. Are you going to go back to Northern Europe? Would you have wanted Wolfe Tone to go 'back to Scotland'?
What about people with European ancestry living in the Americas? Should they 'go home'?
You're not 16 then? You are just incredibly thick and ignorant. I'm asking because you said I told 'minimal truth'.
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
@annoyingasfcuk course i wouldnt, wolfe tone wanted a independant ireland, he is the source of republicanism. the difference between him and you is that u want british rule. that why you should leave, if your obsessed with britain so much, why not return to your mainland??
dkr56 1 year ago
@dkr56 LMAO. So only people who agree with your views can stay? FFS! As for Tone being the 'source' (?!) of republicanism. I thought rebels were fighting against the British long before Tone and his Lundys turned up?
Yet more complete and utter bollocks from republicans. I'm obsessed with Britain? WTF are you on about?!
I am Northern Irish. NI is part of the United Kingdom. I wish this to remain so. How the fuck does this make me 'obsessed'?
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
@annoyingasfcuk no thats not what im saying at all. yes the rebals were fighting long before but tone brought in a new era. northern irish? no such thing, one land and its called ireland, you are irish, still unionist but just as irish as me whether u like it or not. What was needed instead of redmond was a leader who armed a large force and removed the obstacles stopping ireland from being independant. aka, genocide.
dkr56 1 year ago
@dkr56 How is there no such thing as Northern Ireland?! I am not Irish. But Northern Irish as I live in Northern Ireland.
It's about time you moved on with PSF/PIRA. At least they now recognise the country they are part of.
annoyingasfcuk 1 year ago
@annoyingasfcuk no people in Donegal live in NORTHERN Ireland
stevietsuvideos 1 year ago
no surrender till the day we die fuck the ira
idhard2find 3 years ago
Sammy Duddy at the start was a transvestite loyalist who entertained loyalist prisoners dressed in mini skirts and suspenders. google him!
TomBarry192I 3 years ago 2
these people make me sick
greenwhitenproud 3 years ago
agree m8
18monthehoops88 3 years ago