LFS is way better, specially for people who don't have the PC's for rFactor. I also have a G25 and I have tried it in both games, and it's a very good wheel, the best at the moment to use with this games.
you can put straight cut gearboxes on em and theyll sound just like the real thing. this sounds nothing like an m3 gtr, its like they made a last second straight cut gearbox and then confused it with the engine.
How does that even matter? As long as its not knocking, missing, or smoking, the sound is negligible, I'd settle for the hamster nom song if it just did the job of telling me the engine is working fine.
Actually, GT4 did a near perfect rendition of the Nurburgring. The only thing it lacked were changing weather and night racing. But the perfection of the track itself was uncanny.
and the Sudschleife part of the track,but i completely agree, gt4 got really close, but then again you cant expect less from a perfectionist like Kazunori Yamauchi =)
wow i didn't know PC racing sim fans fight which one is the best sim, just like console racing sim fans, but hey ill stick to GT5,Rfactor and GTR so am good and has a well balance of racing sim..
Are you kidding? Forza AI? The only time I ever played Forza was when I hired an xbox 360, first time ever playing the game, and first time using a controller instead of a wheel.
All driving aids were off, AI difficulty was set to medium and I was beating them all, in the slower car, by at LEAST 1 minutes in a 10 lap race. Rfactor AI beats the living hell out of Forza AI, even on its lowest setting.
No, they wont give way to pass, unless you set the AI aggression level down.
Lol. It's called a blue flag. If there is someone slower than you and you are trying to pass them, they must let you by. Of course Forza doesn't have blue or yellow flags.
Great lap, have the same mod and track i have 8.55 mins as fastes lap. As for the sounds i see people complain about it, well let me say this, i didnt came across one single mod yet from who i could say that are realistic sounds a few come near though. It seems its pretty though to make it similair i guess.
While I'm a WAY "over 30yo [grand]dadd[y] for whom training is too late," this is an excellent vid for Rfactor GTR... I'd like to see the same run in high res, with a TrackIR. If I ever get good enough, I'll post one.
For a comparison, get a copy of "In-Car 956," with Derek Bell running the Nordschliefe in - what else? - a Porsche 956, the last time a front-line WSC car ran the North Circuit. The fidelity of Rfactor's track to the real thing is amazing.!
I've got In-Car 956! My favorite track is probably Le Mans. GT4 and Rfactor have incredible reproductions of the 'Ring-and incredible graphics in general. Wow!
i think some people forget, that this is for commenting, not for comparing different racing sims...
well your driving could be improved by getting more like a flow, that is very important at the NS.
what i dont like is the sound, basically its good, but what should sound like gear whine sounds like a supercharger, the sounds varies with rev, not with speed
tomogee, ur right Gtlegends Rocks. And GT4 doesn´t have any good physics. I race cars in real world. U can even do an burnout on GT4. It´s the suckiest game on earth (except Ridge Racers) Play Forza Motorsport 2, Enthusia, rFactor, Gtl, Gtr and LFS, the best racing games in history.
Here's a good way to prove GT4 sucks as far as driving goes. Take someone who plays GTR2, rFactor, or even better GT Legends, because GT Legends drivers have the most skill to drive those cars, and take a die-hard Gran Turismo driver. Then switcht their games. The PC driver will be as fast as the GT4 driver right away, and the GT4 driver will get fed up and pissed off because he can't drive the PC game. Try it sometime.
YEi kid...please pick up your game PAD and go drift on GT4 and leave GTR2 our rFactor to the real simulator drivers. Why didnt GT4 came out for PC? Because PC is 90 % anti arcade games...go play need for speed
you may crash if u are a bad driver. I never cheat..i drive the car with no tcs or any help so i know the limits of the cars and every car have a way to take the corners and u can customize anything in the car from gear ratios to the wheels.
I've played both games avidly, and I have to say that GT4 is better for people who want a "simulation" experience with the bounceback benefits of arcade.. Sure GT has its great moments, but RFactor is a formidable simulation in itself..
I enjoy using the clutch and the physics of RFactor are just amazing. If you crash, your car will suffer as well, and in the right places.
gt4 is called simulation. i played the whole GT series but LFS is the best, sadly just almost fictional cars but best physiks so far. Check out "tire deformation LFS"
LFS is an ice skating simulator. Cars dont drift doing 10mph, like in the game they do.
GTR2 is "tuned down" version of rFactor. rFactor is for those who accept that they must train to become even decent drivers. GTR2 is for over 30yo daddies to whom training is too late.
LOL? Rfactor has exacly the same grapich engine that rfactr has...and only on diference...GTR2 graphicly is more realistic that any other simulator...and has a SIMULATOR is equal or as many magazines say it , is the best simulator in the moment...i play rfactor also, so i know what im talking about...BTW Force feedback on rfactor sucks.. unreal
Hard to make out any meaning in your post. GTR2 has an older physics engine than rFactor. Graphics I dont really care about, it's all about the physics. GTR2 is way too easy to be a simulator, real life hi-perf cars are never that easy to drive at high speeds (at least I would think they're not).
Force in rFactor can be tuned, like every other aspect of the game.
GTR2 is older? LOL...rfactor has 2 years old or more... you are badly informed!!rFactor only as lots of mods...and some of it wecan play..others simply sucks...GTR2 is a dedicated GT simulator...and rfactor is what? Megane trophy? seems like arcade..and it seems cars are flooting in the track...GTR2 is newer and better . Peace
rFactor itself is older, but this has nothing to do with the physics engine. rFactor is being developed all the time, GTR2 is not. GTR2 developers chose to use the older rFactor engine, gMotor, while rFactor uses gMotor2.
nice drving..but..the shifts are chaning wayyyyy too quick..like..insanely quick.. as if the car had 2,000 HP... which makes it a bit unrealistic..but..its still nice
The default field of view as we see in this video, is really wide. This creates the sensation of speed. Narrower it gets, more "slower" everything seems, and more harder it is, but you can tackle corners better.
FOV should always be reduced. Usually people dont.
if it was the transmission, the pitch of the sound wil increase with speed...the hight noise iounds more like a turbo (increasing the pitch with the rpm) and not the speed
watch a real video of that car and you will hear that its the gear whine. who ever made the sounds for that rFactor car failed to simulate that sound as it changes with rpm, not with the speed
Lot of thing changed:)) Track is now much much better, also Car has more improvements and I am muuuuuuuuch more faster!!! :D
Jardier 1 year ago
very good driving!
PHY104 1 year ago
thats an good sound how can i get this for gtr2
mantheyracing1996 1 year ago
@mantheyracing1996 copy the GTRsound files to gtr2 sounds
DeadAndUnknown 1 year ago
y donde lo puedo descargar Xp
david140593 1 year ago
Ooh, I hope they have the Nordschleife with attached GP track in Gran Turismo 5...
hoosyerdaddie 2 years ago
Seriously can you answer my question please?
No1snYpeslikme 3 years ago
Where'd you get this car and this track?
No1snYpeslikme 3 years ago
try to find some GT addon modes for rF :) use google mate :p
Jardier 2 years ago
@No1snYpeslikme they are both from rfactorcentral
DeadAndUnknown 1 year ago
Is the rFactor better than LFS? (live for speed)??? I have LFS and also Logitech g25 wheel and it is superb,both wheel and LFS.
123magor123 3 years ago
LFS is way better, specially for people who don't have the PC's for rFactor. I also have a G25 and I have tried it in both games, and it's a very good wheel, the best at the moment to use with this games.
SenninhaRubberburner 3 years ago
@123magor123 much better.
DeadAndUnknown 1 year ago
why was nfs most wanted the only game to give any car the right sound? the is 300 and slr mclaren were copies of the real thing at EVERY rpm.
venomviper32 3 years ago 2
You do know these are tracked cars right? Not some stock cars.
serge933 3 years ago
you can put straight cut gearboxes on em and theyll sound just like the real thing. this sounds nothing like an m3 gtr, its like they made a last second straight cut gearbox and then confused it with the engine.
venomviper32 3 years ago
How does that even matter? As long as its not knocking, missing, or smoking, the sound is negligible, I'd settle for the hamster nom song if it just did the job of telling me the engine is working fine.
Lasukie 2 years ago
well to me without the noise is at least half the rush (including the speed :) watch the real m3 gtr nurburgring video ull see what i mean :)
venomviper32 2 years ago
I guess to each his own, when I race its purely the speed and the attempt to go faster, the only noise I pay attention to is engine pitch
Lasukie 2 years ago
the sound is bad, mode is old, track is old too :)
Jardier 2 years ago
@Jardier nono the sound is okay :)
mantheyracing1996 1 year ago
audio is 60% of the game
21beal21 2 years ago
Wow, and I thought Forza had the worst rendition of the Nurburgring, this isn't even close to the real thing..........it's atrocious.
liquidsk8s 3 years ago
At the moment, no other sim is even close to reproducing the track in that level of detail, and I'm not talking purely about the graphics.
Many of the fine details that the commercial Developers seem to miss are in there (e.g. The Different Track layouts for winter, tourist etc).
Yes, the ai isn't fantastic, but it's rfactor.
Remember, the motto isn't customise, control, ai. It's customise, control, connect (online play/community being the key).
R4z3rw33n 3 years ago
Actually, GT4 did a near perfect rendition of the Nurburgring. The only thing it lacked were changing weather and night racing. But the perfection of the track itself was uncanny.
liquidsk8s 3 years ago 5
and the Sudschleife part of the track,but i completely agree, gt4 got really close, but then again you cant expect less from a perfectionist like Kazunori Yamauchi =)
Razor1097 3 years ago
@liquidsk8s You got GT5 for that eh ;) (except for weather)
aantiawp 1 year ago
Where are these inboard sounds from? They are fantastic.
Greats
Ralf
speedfreak77 3 years ago
Menuda cagada de vuelta, te quiero ver sin ayudas guapito qlas llevas todas jajaja
greckrichart1 3 years ago
wow i didn't know PC racing sim fans fight which one is the best sim, just like console racing sim fans, but hey ill stick to GT5,Rfactor and GTR so am good and has a well balance of racing sim..
GT1amuse22k 3 years ago
The AI just gives way for you to pass, they want you to win? I think ill stick to forza. I just want a good steering wheel and im ok.
TripleCLUTCH 3 years ago
Are you kidding? Forza AI? The only time I ever played Forza was when I hired an xbox 360, first time ever playing the game, and first time using a controller instead of a wheel.
All driving aids were off, AI difficulty was set to medium and I was beating them all, in the slower car, by at LEAST 1 minutes in a 10 lap race. Rfactor AI beats the living hell out of Forza AI, even on its lowest setting.
No, they wont give way to pass, unless you set the AI aggression level down.
Bigrtftw 3 years ago
Lol. It's called a blue flag. If there is someone slower than you and you are trying to pass them, they must let you by. Of course Forza doesn't have blue or yellow flags.
No1snYpeslikme 3 years ago
Mi piace il tracciato del Nurburgring e la M3 Gtr, in Rfactor, è strepitosa. Bel video!!!!
djandry983 4 years ago
GTR2 is a ''sim'' for n00bs
lol
o0HouzE0o 4 years ago
ur a S... lol
djandry983 4 years ago
lol noobs ? and which sim if for pros ?? rfactor ? ( which is 20x easier then gtr )
MakuthePOtHead 3 years ago
Stop wasting your life trying to troll...
koko56 3 years ago
why is the transmission wine increasing with the revs, shouldnt it increase with the speed.
stupidlambo 4 years ago 2
maybe its looks like so in this vid but when you play it actually sounds convincing
jeanphe 4 years ago
That sir, is a big fuckup by the developers lol
TripleCLUTCH 3 years ago
I dont really know much about this, but it looks a little too fast...like unrealisticly so.
70PR4M3N 4 years ago 6
@70PR4M3N Nurburing is a very fast track
DeadAndUnknown 1 year ago
Great lap, have the same mod and track i have 8.55 mins as fastes lap. As for the sounds i see people complain about it, well let me say this, i didnt came across one single mod yet from who i could say that are realistic sounds a few come near though. It seems its pretty though to make it similair i guess.
markfsr 4 years ago
Nice driving.. Passing people on the right is illegal on the ring though^^
sparks444 4 years ago 2
you are an animal.
mrjswift 4 years ago
hi! great video! nice driving! fckn traffic :P what mod is that?? i have a FIA GT mod but it hasn't the M3.. and i love that car..
mateo89fl 4 years ago
y does the whine go up with the rpm ???? it should increase along with the speed...
iigusiaaa4417 4 years ago
nice driving.. what program did you use to record it?
mateo89fl 4 years ago
Man, i love you :D
I need over 10 minutes for a lap... without traffic.
littlec916: rfactorcentral/com
cYpher18 4 years ago
Where did you get this track?
littlec916 4 years ago
While I'm a WAY "over 30yo [grand]dadd[y] for whom training is too late," this is an excellent vid for Rfactor GTR... I'd like to see the same run in high res, with a TrackIR. If I ever get good enough, I'll post one.
For a comparison, get a copy of "In-Car 956," with Derek Bell running the Nordschliefe in - what else? - a Porsche 956, the last time a front-line WSC car ran the North Circuit. The fidelity of Rfactor's track to the real thing is amazing.!
Bartbrn 4 years ago
I've got In-Car 956! My favorite track is probably Le Mans. GT4 and Rfactor have incredible reproductions of the 'Ring-and incredible graphics in general. Wow!
Timdpr 4 years ago
Brilliant!
pulkerwhast 4 years ago
i think some people forget, that this is for commenting, not for comparing different racing sims...
well your driving could be improved by getting more like a flow, that is very important at the NS.
what i dont like is the sound, basically its good, but what should sound like gear whine sounds like a supercharger, the sounds varies with rev, not with speed
argh1989 4 years ago
how need change pedals function on dmeo lfs ? hlp me plz
kadirovstas 4 years ago
Sorry i wrote wrong i mean you can´t even do an burnout on GT4 :P
Folkrace19 4 years ago
tomogee, ur right Gtlegends Rocks. And GT4 doesn´t have any good physics. I race cars in real world. U can even do an burnout on GT4. It´s the suckiest game on earth (except Ridge Racers) Play Forza Motorsport 2, Enthusia, rFactor, Gtl, Gtr and LFS, the best racing games in history.
Folkrace19 4 years ago 2
Here's a good way to prove GT4 sucks as far as driving goes. Take someone who plays GTR2, rFactor, or even better GT Legends, because GT Legends drivers have the most skill to drive those cars, and take a die-hard Gran Turismo driver. Then switcht their games. The PC driver will be as fast as the GT4 driver right away, and the GT4 driver will get fed up and pissed off because he can't drive the PC game. Try it sometime.
tomogee666 4 years ago
thats a nice sound pack you got..sounds exactly like it
mattcrash69 4 years ago
vitto you suck
flippy129 4 years ago
can you upload the M3 GTR sound for us....Please
wih0418 4 years ago
....website../watch?v=YGSVmXFCGNg new video by me, onboard bmw e30 m3
Jardier 4 years ago
your engine sounds are good
where can I download it...?
wih0418 4 years ago
rfactor is for pc lovers who soesn't even had play GT4.
vitto 4 years ago
YEi kid...please pick up your game PAD and go drift on GT4 and leave GTR2 our rFactor to the real simulator drivers. Why didnt GT4 came out for PC? Because PC is 90 % anti arcade games...go play need for speed
giruip 4 years ago
you may crash if u are a bad driver. I never cheat..i drive the car with no tcs or any help so i know the limits of the cars and every car have a way to take the corners and u can customize anything in the car from gear ratios to the wheels.
vitto 4 years ago
lol and with nitro in Audi R8... GT4 is not simulation, but it is the best driving on PS. rFactor rullez
PerG88 4 years ago
I wonder why GT4 wasn't be made 4 pc?..
GT5 is gona kick ass very hard. PS3
vitto 4 years ago
I've played both games avidly, and I have to say that GT4 is better for people who want a "simulation" experience with the bounceback benefits of arcade.. Sure GT has its great moments, but RFactor is a formidable simulation in itself..
I enjoy using the clutch and the physics of RFactor are just amazing. If you crash, your car will suffer as well, and in the right places.
itsadaniel 4 years ago
Ractor sucks...U just have to see the videos...GT4 is a million times better.
PC's sucks
vitto 4 years ago
Ahhh, don't be to jealous.
whizzedoutwoz 4 years ago
Don´t you understand?
GT4 has a nice Nordschleife, but it has a bad physic simulation. That sells.
In rFactor, GTR, GTL and GTR², even in Racer, you feel any bump on the road.
S51E 4 years ago
and u think u are a pro driver..i'm sure u have a ford taurus as a car.
vitto 4 years ago
If I would have a car, a Taurus would be great....
S51E 4 years ago
nah pretty sure he has a holden m8, holden lick my gooch
fdhbvgdbfysvifsd 4 years ago
souds are good butt the game and physics sucks....BUY GT4 "simulation game"
vitto 4 years ago
GT4 "arcade game" lol. rfactor is the best. Good lap man !
R4YMI 4 years ago
gt4 is called simulation. i played the whole GT series but LFS is the best, sadly just almost fictional cars but best physiks so far. Check out "tire deformation LFS"
fetB 4 years ago
Looks and sounds amazing. Great!
Buran288gto 4 years ago
Which game is better, more realistic, GTR2 or rFactor?
BornInBosnia 4 years ago
lfs2 is more realistic than either of them
MizsterKrist 4 years ago
you can't say that lfs is more realistic than rF or GTR2 because in lfs is not any Real car... ^^
Jardier 4 years ago
Jardier , yep sadly ...
fetB 4 years ago
what?
Jardier 4 years ago
that there are no real cars (licensed) in da game. would be a blast...well maybe after Stage 3 in 10 years or so :D
fetB 4 years ago
....in LFS...
fetB 4 years ago
LFS is an ice skating simulator. Cars dont drift doing 10mph, like in the game they do.
GTR2 is "tuned down" version of rFactor. rFactor is for those who accept that they must train to become even decent drivers. GTR2 is for over 30yo daddies to whom training is too late.
latuman 4 years ago
LFs is the best when your tires aren't blown!
zacharyzoomy 4 years ago 2
LOL? Rfactor has exacly the same grapich engine that rfactr has...and only on diference...GTR2 graphicly is more realistic that any other simulator...and has a SIMULATOR is equal or as many magazines say it , is the best simulator in the moment...i play rfactor also, so i know what im talking about...BTW Force feedback on rfactor sucks.. unreal
giruip 4 years ago
Hard to make out any meaning in your post. GTR2 has an older physics engine than rFactor. Graphics I dont really care about, it's all about the physics. GTR2 is way too easy to be a simulator, real life hi-perf cars are never that easy to drive at high speeds (at least I would think they're not).
Force in rFactor can be tuned, like every other aspect of the game.
latuman 4 years ago 3
GTR2 is older? LOL...rfactor has 2 years old or more... you are badly informed!!rFactor only as lots of mods...and some of it wecan play..others simply sucks...GTR2 is a dedicated GT simulator...and rfactor is what? Megane trophy? seems like arcade..and it seems cars are flooting in the track...GTR2 is newer and better . Peace
giruip 4 years ago
rFactor itself is older, but this has nothing to do with the physics engine. rFactor is being developed all the time, GTR2 is not. GTR2 developers chose to use the older rFactor engine, gMotor, while rFactor uses gMotor2.
latuman 4 years ago
Very nice..but i think BMW M3 GTR in GTR2 is way more awsome than in rfacor
giruip 5 years ago
nice drving..but..the shifts are chaning wayyyyy too quick..like..insanely quick.. as if the car had 2,000 HP... which makes it a bit unrealistic..but..its still nice
FnckAduck 5 years ago
dude.. never heard of a 'sequential gearbox'
you dont have to let go the throttle there, and you dont have to clutch.
almost every race car has it.
darylz07 4 years ago
its not the shift speed is the power the car has...it seems like a formula 1, with 1000hp and glued to the track
brielga 4 years ago
The default field of view as we see in this video, is really wide. This creates the sensation of speed. Narrower it gets, more "slower" everything seems, and more harder it is, but you can tackle corners better.
FOV should always be reduced. Usually people dont.
latuman 4 years ago
Excelent 3d´s work!!!
neverevertaken 5 years ago
6V92TA the car is supercharged yes but that sounds mostly comes from the transmission
madshef 5 years ago
if it was the transmission, the pitch of the sound wil increase with speed...the hight noise iounds more like a turbo (increasing the pitch with the rpm) and not the speed
brielga 4 years ago
guys..its a game
watch a real video of that car and you will hear that its the gear whine. who ever made the sounds for that rFactor car failed to simulate that sound as it changes with rpm, not with the speed
argh1989 4 years ago
rF rox!
Aquagen 5 years ago
i love the way the engine sound! is that car supercharged?
6V92TA 5 years ago
superb driving!
netdriller 5 years ago
nice line.
rollinbrownout 5 years ago
Nice run, I'll have to look into that game. Accurate looking enough to be a great simulator.
repete74 5 years ago