"One thing that's important to understand about the Latter-day Saints is that there are levels of authoritative scripture," Anderson said. "The scripture, including the Bible, Book of Mormon, etc. - every Mormon believes that. The second level is what leaders and officials of the Mormon Church have said in statements. The third level is printed curriculum, which depends on distribution, individual teaching and such.
@BornAgainstMormons 2675 showing how you are totally blind to any kind of truth. This video is rubbish and I'm so sick and tired of hearing the "anti mormon" word. I don't call atheist "anti christian" simply because I can present a valid argument for my defense. That word is a scapegoat to avoid any real thought.
@sonofcohen National Geographic is one of the most respected scientific organizations in the world. They have the real archaeologists (including a Mormon), with the real research.
Archaeology does NOT support - 1)The Exodus 2) the walls of Jericho at the time of Joshua 3) that Jonah got the people of Assyrian of Nineveh capital to repent 4) David and Solomon "glorious" "empire"
Matthew 2, the Execution of baby borns not mentioned by any historian.
@TheSkepticChristian really? I have never heard any scholar in any debate on any side ever once quote from national geographic as a valid source and fyi, Mormon archeologist is an oxymoron
@sonofcohen National Geographic was talking about traditional assumptions about the BofM, I don't accept does traditional assumptions. Just like you son't accept more than 2000 years traditional assumptions people had Bible. (you believe that for centuries the Bible had the wrong translation, instead of Reed Sea).
So I agree with National Geographic, indians came from Syberia.
Anyways, there are evidences, Many to support the BofM, they have even found Book of Mormon cities.
@sonofcohen You obviously don't know whats official doctrine.
If we had the non-canonical writings of Peter, I am sure they would say crazy things, like earth being flat.
We don't have the non-canonical teachings or writings of Peter. Their is no evidence that he even existed. There is more evidence that a false messiah called Simon of Perea existed, than any of the apostles in the New testament.
Simon of Perea even lived in the same time period but before the apostles, near Jerusalem.
@sonofcohen JS did NOT have sex with women already married with other men. you also failed to send me evidence for that.
As for you other accusation:
"his youngest wife, Helen Mar Kimball...there is absolutely no evidence that there was any sexuality in the marriage, and I suggest that, following later practice in Utah, there may have been no sexuality. (p. 638) All the evidence points to this marriage as a primarily dynastic marriage"-- Todd Compton
@TheSkepticChristian he did! The Holy Spirit told me so. read the BOM and pray about it, and you will recieve a testimony that he did it. I don't need any evidence to make these claims because there is no evidence for the BOM either. If you don't recieve the same answer as me you did it wrong. BTW you must be one of those, "has to have the last word" people huh?
@sonofcohen Why you block me for?? wow you made so many fallacies.
First of all, Its bad that the Jews don't believe in Jesus, but it has nothing to do with secular education. Yes, Jews are educated. Statistical information, says that there are more educated Jews, than educated protestants.
Second, I can present evidences for the BofM.
Thirdly, think that evidences for the Bible are better, so I asked ou for peer reviewed papers, from a respected Journal, and you FAILED.
@TheSkepticChristian I actually gave you everything you asked for, but you don't even seem to realize it. I blocked you because you can not use logic to talk to illogical people. You just kept going in circles and it was useless. I tried just not responding but you just kept sending me the same garbage.
@sonofcohen Please send me the link of the peer reviewed paper, from a respected journal please.
For example from European Journal of Archaeology (EJA), AJA | American Journal of Archaeology. Peer reviewed papers that Show evidence for Solomon's empire, or Exodus. You did NOT send me anything.
Sorry, but I use logic. I love science and reason. You never send me REAL a peer reviwed papers.
@TheSkepticChristian sigh, I hate wasting my time to do reasearch you are not willing to do. For the last time, how about something funded by nation geographic and the national academy of sciences? You PROMISE to shut up this time? .sciencedaily. com /releases/2008/10/081027174545. htm
@sonofcohen Your article on time, is NOT a peer reviewed paper, nor it proves that Solomon's empire was powerful and glorous. It seems that you have difficulty understading what a peer reviewed paper is, from a respected journal. Anyways, next year Sorenson is going to publish a Book that will present powerful evidences for the BofM.
I like that the research was supported by Nat Geo, you should see Nat Geo :), its very respect society. See Bible episodes :).
@BornAgainstMormons Just to tell you that sonofcohen used Nat Geo against the BofM, but he ignores Nat Geo when it talks abotu the Bible.
sonofcohen claims that he proved me wrong, and he claims that many archaeologists believe in the Historicity of the Bible. Well, most of them don't believe in the Historicity of the Exodus, and the few that do, they don't claim to have powerful evidence to support it.
sonofcohen just quoted archaeologists that lived 50 years ago, to support his views.
@TheSkepticChristian Nat Geo against the Book of Mormon is on anti- Mormon propaganda. Nat Geo against the Bible is forbidden for anti- Mormons to read, it would require independent thought.
@BornAgainstMormons True, the Nat Geo letter is always in anti mormon websites, but I don't disagree with the letter that much, after all, Nat Geo was talking about traditional assumptions. For example, we know the indians came from Syberia, but in 600 BC a small group of Hebrews came to the Americas, and mix with them.
"anti- Mormons to read, it would require"
LOL
I don't think its against the Bible, but its true, anti-mormons don't like Nat Geo when it talks about the Bible
@BornAgainstMormons Yes that true, AT Geo basically only said: "... Society does not know of anything found so far that has substantiated the Book" (in other words conclusive irrefutable evidence)
"New World's earliest inhabitants arrived from Asia via the Bering land bridge"
(I support the limited geography of the BofM) As we can see National Geographic is not anti-Mormon, it also stated:
"Book of Mormon is clearly a work of great spiritual power; millions have read and revered its words"
@BornAgainstMormons I've struggled with this inherited condition for since my early teens. So, I am intimately acquainted with this illness, and what conditions can worsen an already chronic condition into a lethal one. The additional stresses placed by the Mormon culture on a person predisposed to depression, young men in particular, can be lethal. I firmly believe if I hadn't left the LDS church, I would be dead. As is my brother, and that poor Swartz kid who couldn't say "No Bishop".
@drinkswithnedkelly Obviously I had to block you for vulgarity like that. I allow your continual lies because I am used to them, but the vulgarity will not be tolerated.
Shawn McCraney is a former Mormon, served a Mormon mission, taught seminary etc. Now he is a born again Christian & does a very good job pointing out the lies that Mormonism is founded upon. It is not anti-Mormon 2 point out lies that Mormons are being taught, and asked to swallow as truth. For example figures 2 and 4 on page 41 of the "Pearl of Great Price" are pictures of the egyptian godesses Isis and Maat, yet Joseph identified them as men. Figure 1 is the egyptian god Osiris. These R facts.
@BornAgainstMormons Good "Mormon Christians" R just really good hypocrites. The Bible teaches that all have sinned Romans 3:23 It also says that if any man says he is without sin, he is a liar 1 John 1:8-10. Mormons R typically sheep in wolves clothing, they pretend 2 B sinless, so they can pretend 2 B
"worthy" of heaven, & they walk around condemning others who are not as "good" as themselves. In Luke 18:9-14 Jesus describes typical Mormonism, quite well. Salvation is by grace John 3:18,36.
@BornAgainstMormons Pastor McCraney was considered a horrible mormon only after HE made the decision the leave your organization Instead of any understanding,mormons completely black ball anyone who chooses to leave.Is that being Christian? I think it defines a cult, P.S. mormons aren't christians,their mormons.
Here is a list of about a dozen books -- both fiction and nonfiction -- about different aspects of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' history. .
(Salt Lake City, UT) - The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced policy changes have been approved regarding the length of missions and housing costs for senior missionaries. The new changes provide opportunity for people to serve full-time missions who would not otherwise have the resources, according to the announcement.
If mormonism wasn't false,this would all be soo boring.What a great way to meet people.This is better than face book.Hey I know,lets call it Two facedbook....
Hyrum!' He, however, instantly arose, and with a firm, quick step, and a determined expression of countenance, approached the door, and pulling the six-shooter left by Brother Wheelock from his pocket, opened the door slightly, and snapped the pistol six successive times; only three of the barrels, however, were discharged. I afterwards understood that two or three were wounded by these discharges, two of whom, I am informed died." (History of the Church, Vol. 7, p. 100, 102 & 103)
I guess when Bringham Young said that Blacks will never enter the priesthood, that was allowing them... into ....the priesthood? I guess when Kimble allowed black people into the priesthood, he was doing so to clarify that they had always been in the priesthood?
@BornAgainstMormons What religious slur? Brigham Young said African Americans would never be allowed into the priesthood. He also said they would be servants in heaven if they made it there. Sounds like your problem is with Brigham Young, a former LDS prophet, and not with me.
@BornAgainstMormons - (1) Learn some History... never mind about 'your' truth... it's in 'your History'. Or would you prefer that 'edited' also? The practice was never widespread, some Utah pioneers held African-American slaves until 1862 when Congress abolished slavery in the territories. Three slaves, Green Flake, Hark Lay, and Oscar Crosby, came west with the first pioneer company in 1847, and their names appear on a plaque on the Brigham Young Monument in downtown Salt Lake City.
@BornAgainstMormons (2) Slavery was legal in Utah as a result of the Compromise of 1850, which brought California into the Union as a free state while allowing Utah and New Mexico territories the option of deciding the issue by "popular sovereignty."
@54v115 Slavery was illegal in Salt Lake City. The Mormon Christian capital. Slavery was encourage and protected among the Southern Baptists, the larger the population of Baptists, the most slavery was protected and legal.
@BornAgainstMormons (3) The Mormon church had no official doctrine for or against slaveholding, and leaders were ambivalent. In 1836 Joseph Smith wrote that masters should treat slaves humanely and that slaves owed their owners obedience. During his presidential campaign in 1844, however, he came out for abolition. Brigham Young tacitly supported slaveholding, declaring that although Utah was not suited for slavery the practice was "ordained by God".
@BornAgainstMormons _ try reading your OWN History of the Church. It's in there - oh by the way.. that's an approved LDS publication. As for the D+C or the BOM .. which versions do you recommend? AND Mormons are not Christian.. God was never an exalted man as Smith and his subsequent leaders claimed.. ALSO read the- The King Follett discourse, or King Follett sermon, an address delivered in Nauvoo, Illinois by Joseph Smith .. you may learn something.
@crazy456eyes Obviously I had to remove your post and block your for your extreme vulgarity. I saw on your channel that you are a supporter of Testriftene and Pastor McCraney. That would explain the extreme hate and vulgarity in your comment.
@BornAgainstMormons typo, "Righteousness" Q. Why baptize the dead? Christians do not contact or worry about the dead. "let the dead bury the dead" & "why stand we in jeopardy every hour"? "For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." "sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death". "Death is swallowed up in victory". Not by our merits, but "In Christ" we have victory over death.
Mormonism is anti-Christ. John 14:6 John 3:18,36 1Corinthians 1:17-21. Here is pure truth: On page 41 of the Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith fraudulently identifies figures 2 & 4 as men. Any non blind person can see that they are very obviously women, and if you look up the egyptian godesses Isis and Maat and do some study on them, you will come to see that figures 2 and 4 would have been identified as them, if Joseph were anything other than a fraud and a liar.
@bobbyraejohnson I'm a convert to the LDS church and there are many things that are misunderstood in the Bible, things that people in mainstream Christian religions don't understand or overlook. The Mormon church is more Christian than any other church. It will bring you closer to Jesus rather than farther away.
Es lógico que la verdadera iglesia tenga oposición y que venga de uno que fue un miembro aparentemente de larga trayectoria. Es parte de una estrategia de Satanás que fue un bello angel y hermano de Jesús pero se convirtio en su astuto enemigo.
It´s logic that the true church has opposition and that it comes from one who was apparently a great member of the church. Is part of an strategy of Satan which was a beautiful angel and brother of Jesus but became his wily foe.
@BornAgainst Por ahí debe estar no es una parte que atesoro para recordar, no me concentro en las cosas tristes. Por que lo triste es que Lucifer se convirtio en Satan cuando pudo seguir siendo bueno y bello como lo fue alguna vez.
Compiled by Provo author Rick Walton, the book has 128 pages of quotes from well-known people, arranged chronologically, showing a range of viewpoints about Mormonism through the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries. Personal thoughts of public figures such as Susan B. Anthony, Buffalo Bill Cody, Mark Twain,
What famous broadcaster said Mormons in Utah look "so innocent"? What reality TV celebrity said she peered out at the Los Angeles temple every night as a way of grounding herself?
You can find the musings of Mike Wallace, Sharon Osbourne and many other public figures in the new book "Much Ado about Mormons" (Covenant Communications, $15.99), due in bookstores early April.
Why is it that any time more facts surface that expose the lies and man made theology of the mormons,They call them Lies?I guess the best defense is a good offense,right boys....
You don't even want to address the obvious lies of WHO?Instead I attack others?Think about WHO'S tactics?and where they originate?Well... first of all I was raised in Utahrd around you self ritious,arrogant, hipicriticle dumbass's,and I experienced first hand exactly what your all about.So I decided to research morminism(which you haven't) and found out smith was a dishonest ,lying cheating conman who got people like you to believe his fairytale storys and man made theology.wake up Mr. mormon!
More lies by @BornAgainstMormons Shawn did not say or promote anything here. Is this all you can do is cut and edit short parts of other callers and say "Shawn [is] Promoting Antimormon Lies"?
ANTImormons don't like being challenged. It forces them to think and when they have to do that themselves. They get confused and either go for personal ATTACKS or disappear.
Your so called church leaders and or prophets have been spueing out lies since the begining .Shawn just tells you things they don't want you to know.Even though it's all facts,you continue to grasp for straws.
@TheSereika You don't even want to address the obvious lies of Pastor McCraney? Instead you want to attack others? Think about your tactics, and where they originate.
Ummm... in context fella Shawn was simply listening to a caller call in. Taking things out of context is in itself a lie. Please list straightfoward what you believe his lies are.
@BornAgainstMormons Your funny man. He did not agree. He was being polight. Context is everything. Secondly why are you so sure the statement is a lie? Not that it matters much in doctrinal divisions we might have with other. :)
this video is absolutely ridiculous. lol. it says african americans were always allowed in lds churches, yet they could only serve as "slaves" in heaven. Until the mid 1900's, that was the lds belief, and once the Jim Crowe laws were fully abolished, the lds changed that belief. On top of that, disabling ratings for your video dude? HAHAHAHAHAHA, whoever made this needs to move out of utah.
@pedroelcarvron In combination with that other video I recently saw on youtube "Jesus Christ I will survive", I have the following conviction: Jesus Christ did resurrect, came back to the Americas, then was hit by an autobus, then died from this accident, never to return. The main point the video proved that Shawn breathes through his mouth.
@BornAgainstMormons Well it looks like i'm supposed to guess what facts your pointing to in your links is that right? I'm sorry i'm not as enlightened as you because I don't posses the magic powers of the mormon priesthood. I'm guessing that's what you call a blind eye. Assumptions are not facts okay cubby. Good luck defending a lie you got a lot of fabricated excuses, explanations, and apologies to write. It's tough ask the CIA.
Thirty Quebec congregations of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, through the Mormon Helping Hands program, joined forces to support the 17th annual Great Canadian Shoreline Cleanup. More than 400 Helping Hands volunteers worked at two cleanup sites in the Montreal area. The shoreline cleanup projects were at Montreal's Angrignon Park and along the St. Lawrence River in Longueuil. This was the first ever Quebec-wide Mormon Helping Hands Service Day. .
"The truth is that African Americans always had full membership rights in the lds church"
THAT IS THE LIE. African Americans could not hold the priesthood or attend the temple until 1978. The church taught that they were descendents of Cain. If you believe that they had full membership rights, you have never read a thing about church history. I grew up being taught that blacks would NEVER hold the priesthood, as was taught by Brigham Young
@BornAgainstMormons I was raised in the LDS church when blacks were denied the priesthood and the ability to go to the temple - essentials of salvation in LDS doctrine. How can you possibly say that African Americans had full membership rights when they were denied essential ordinances until 1978. To back up that policy (which was not revelation) McCon\kie and several apostles and presidents made numerous racist statements, including that blacks were Satan's representatives on earth.
@drinkswithnedkelly The temple and the priesthood are not essential for salvation. You either left because you were uninformed or you are being deceitful.
@BornAgainstMormons The most emphasized teaching in the LDS church is families being sealed forever. Blacks were denied that. Blacks could not enter the temple. They could not have the priesthood. They could not baptise their children. They were taught that they were decendents of Cain, satans representatives on earath and less valiant in the pre-existance. It's all documented in pre -1978 church publications including Mormon Doctrine.
@BornAgainstMormons How ridiculous that you denounce drinkswithnedkelly's response as a distortion. Even your Ex-Prophet Gordon Hinckley confirms what drinkswithnedkelly stated. It's right here from his own mouth: watch?v=P_KERZlwOXM
Apparently not only was Carter considering removing the tax exempt status of the Mormon church if they didn't stop treating blacks differently, but other organizations were threatening boycotting Mormon sports, etc., so suddenly that year, blacks were permitted.
@Elhardt I presented a list of all of Carter's executive orders. Instead of trying to make things true by posting your opinion, read the facts I present.
@BornAgainstMormons What? I posted that Carter was considering removing the tax exempt status of the Mormon church if they didn't allow blacks the same status as whites. It obviously didn't get to the stage of an executive order because the Mormon church caved in to the pressure. So again you post something that doesn't make sense.
@Elhardt The Pastor McCraney scholar said that there was an executive order, I can refute your rumors about other things. However, to stay focused, are you ready to admit there was no such executive order?
@BornAgainstMormons And why is it every Mormon youtuber censors comments with this Comment Pending Approval nonsense? That right there says a lot about how scared they are about what people might say. It makes it impossible to carry on any kind of discussion with anybody.
The victims included the lead crime reporter at El Diario newspaper in Ciudad Juarez, a popular local Mormon leader and a rural activist who spoke out
". . .Feed my sheep! That was a request, a commandment, if you like. If you are starving yourself, in one way or another, will some other member who has made the same covenant as you, see your need and reach out a hand? Is it not blessed when they do? They are standing in for Christ.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that the family is the basic unit not just of society, but of heaven and eternity. A familiar LDS slogan is "Families Are Forever." Latter-day Saints focus much of their resources on families: forming families by marrying, growing families by having children, strengthening families through church activity, defending families from influences or situations they deem threatening
If he were false the mormons would get their scholar to prove him wrong. He only speaks the truth by comparing mormon teachings to the bible. Open your mind and heart, it's not that hard. The hard part will be finding out the horrible truth about mormonism that is hidden from members.
McCraney is a complete fool. He is a liar. He says he loves the LDS, but his behavior says otherwise. His behavior shows he is not a follower of Christ. His agenda is very clear.
@omiolo This is the oldest method used by the anti- mormons. You supply them with referenced and sourced material showing them exactly where they have lied and they pretend that the world is still flat.
@BornAgainstMormons "You supply them with referenced and sourced material showing them exactly where they have lied and they pretend that the world is still flat"
@omiolo Sometimes I wonder if they will ever recover from their constant head in the sand mentality. I can show them fact after fact and all I get is 'what facts?'.
If he works for satan then he is lying right? Can you prove what he says wrong by taking your scrptures and comparing them? I know its hard for LDS to question things when we are told not to but if you say stuff like that then you need to prove your statement.
@xSpartacusx1976 I have proven Pastor McCraney wrong and deceitful in this video. I would say it is hard for you to question Pastor McCraney no matter how wrong he is. Please don't continue to ignore the obvious lies as I have referenced.
I give B for effort, but a fail for information. If you discredit him finding such an order, why not find an expert to say one way or the other? (legislator perhaps?) My guess is your aim in this video is not uncovering truth but discrediting Mr. McCraney.
That being said, I thought the statue with the hand over the face was a nice touch:)
An LDS release said the refurbishments include the restoration of bas-relief friezes of scriptural scenes and original LeConte Stewart murals. Also installed were new art glass windowpanes and glass panels, as well as hardwood trim and inlaid panels featuring koa.
Renovations that started in January 2009 include structural and mechanical repairs, more elevators for wheelchair users, and overall beautification inside and out, said Whiting, who described the temple as "magnificent."
While soccer fans from much of the rest of the world were trying to make their way to her home country for the latter stages of the World Cup, Kim Brown was traveling from just north of Johannesburg, South Africa, to a hillside between the villages of Manchester and Palmyra.
@omiolo why is it that you will so easily criticize and reject someone but you won't actually discuss aspects of the gospel? why is it that the only things you say are one or all of the following: hurtful, spiteful, condescending, judgmental and ignorant.
you want the world to accept you as a Christian but you won't act like a Christian and you won't even discuss your own scriptures and doctrines. why is that?
@SvenTveskegg Obviously I know you to be LYING and DECEIVING. So what worthwhile discussion could we have until that changes? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
Gas prices are edging up and the economy is recovering only slowly, but you wouldn't know it by the number of participants and visitors in town for the annual Hill Cumorah Pageant.
who lived in the same time and general vicinity as Joseph Smith (and would likely have had access to the same resources) -- claimed that steel was unknown in Nephi's day and wasn't invented for several hundreds of years later (Mormonism: Embracing the Origin, Rise and Progress of the Sect, 22). Even as late as 1920, some critics were claiming that Joseph Smith got it wrong and that steel was unknown in Nephi's day (Stuart Martin, The Mystery of Mormonism, 44).
@omiolo haha don't want to talk about that subject, i take it? why not? you've talked to me so much about "rejecting prophets", so let's discuss what some of the early prophets of the LDS Church have said that were once doctrines but that are now "rejected" even by members. why does the Church not practice blood atonements anymore?
When Nephi slew Laban in order to obtain the plates of brass, Nephi used Laban's own sword made of "precious steel" (1 Nephi 4:9). James H. Hunt, a critic writing in 1844, listed "steel" as one proof that the Book of Mormon was fraudulent. Hunt --
Woolley said missionary efforts now combine proselytizing with strengthening inactive LDS members. "And I think that effort is going to be very fruitful," he said. "When they have joined and when they've gone through the fires of commitment, they're rock-solid. They're staying, and they're not going away."
The fourth level is what I call 'folk Mormonism;' some Mormons may believe it and some may not."
omiolo 3 months ago
"One thing that's important to understand about the Latter-day Saints is that there are levels of authoritative scripture," Anderson said. "The scripture, including the Bible, Book of Mormon, etc. - every Mormon believes that. The second level is what leaders and officials of the Mormon Church have said in statements. The third level is printed curriculum, which depends on distribution, individual teaching and such.
omiolo 3 months ago
Husband and wife head to Africa -- again
August 16, 2011
Roseville Press Tribune
omiolo 5 months ago
@omiolo Great place for missionary work.
BornAgainstMormons 3 months ago
2675 Views
BornAgainstMormons 5 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons 2675 showing how you are totally blind to any kind of truth. This video is rubbish and I'm so sick and tired of hearing the "anti mormon" word. I don't call atheist "anti christian" simply because I can present a valid argument for my defense. That word is a scapegoat to avoid any real thought.
sonofcohen 5 months ago
@sonofcohen National Geographic is one of the most respected scientific organizations in the world. They have the real archaeologists (including a Mormon), with the real research.
Archaeology does NOT support - 1)The Exodus 2) the walls of Jericho at the time of Joshua 3) that Jonah got the people of Assyrian of Nineveh capital to repent 4) David and Solomon "glorious" "empire"
Matthew 2, the Execution of baby borns not mentioned by any historian.
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian really? I have never heard any scholar in any debate on any side ever once quote from national geographic as a valid source and fyi, Mormon archeologist is an oxymoron
sonofcohen 5 months ago
@sonofcohen because most evangelicals don't like Nat Geo, when it talks about the Bible, but they praise it, when it talks about other things.
Archaeology does NOT support --
1)The Exodus
2) the walls of Jericho at the time of Joshua
3) that Jonah got the people of Assyrian of Nineveh capital to repent
4) Solomon's "glorious" "empire"
5) Book of Genesis
Matthew 2, the Execution of babies in New Testament, is not mentioned by any historian.
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian national Geographic also does not support the BOM. Sucks to be you!
sonofcohen 5 months ago
@sonofcohen ahahaha I totally agree with the statement National Geographic made.
It was talking about a hemispheric Geography.
I don't accept it
I also believe that the Indians came from Siberia.
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
@sonofcohen National Geographic was talking about traditional assumptions about the BofM, I don't accept does traditional assumptions. Just like you son't accept more than 2000 years traditional assumptions people had Bible. (you believe that for centuries the Bible had the wrong translation, instead of Reed Sea).
So I agree with National Geographic, indians came from Syberia.
Anyways, there are evidences, Many to support the BofM, they have even found Book of Mormon cities.
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian traditional assumptions? You mean traditional teachings by prophets of your church. dishonesty seems to be in your blood.
sonofcohen 5 months ago
@sonofcohen You obviously don't know whats official doctrine.
If we had the non-canonical writings of Peter, I am sure they would say crazy things, like earth being flat.
We don't have the non-canonical teachings or writings of Peter. Their is no evidence that he even existed. There is more evidence that a false messiah called Simon of Perea existed, than any of the apostles in the New testament.
Simon of Perea even lived in the same time period but before the apostles, near Jerusalem.
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
@sonofcohen JS did NOT have sex with women already married with other men. you also failed to send me evidence for that.
As for you other accusation:
"his youngest wife, Helen Mar Kimball...there is absolutely no evidence that there was any sexuality in the marriage, and I suggest that, following later practice in Utah, there may have been no sexuality. (p. 638) All the evidence points to this marriage as a primarily dynastic marriage"-- Todd Compton
TheSkepticChristian 4 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian he did! The Holy Spirit told me so. read the BOM and pray about it, and you will recieve a testimony that he did it. I don't need any evidence to make these claims because there is no evidence for the BOM either. If you don't recieve the same answer as me you did it wrong. BTW you must be one of those, "has to have the last word" people huh?
sonofcohen 4 months ago
@sonofcohen Why you block me for?? wow you made so many fallacies.
First of all, Its bad that the Jews don't believe in Jesus, but it has nothing to do with secular education. Yes, Jews are educated. Statistical information, says that there are more educated Jews, than educated protestants.
Second, I can present evidences for the BofM.
Thirdly, think that evidences for the Bible are better, so I asked ou for peer reviewed papers, from a respected Journal, and you FAILED.
TheSkepticChristian 4 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian I actually gave you everything you asked for, but you don't even seem to realize it. I blocked you because you can not use logic to talk to illogical people. You just kept going in circles and it was useless. I tried just not responding but you just kept sending me the same garbage.
sonofcohen 4 months ago
@sonofcohen Please send me the link of the peer reviewed paper, from a respected journal please.
For example from European Journal of Archaeology (EJA), AJA | American Journal of Archaeology. Peer reviewed papers that Show evidence for Solomon's empire, or Exodus. You did NOT send me anything.
Sorry, but I use logic. I love science and reason. You never send me REAL a peer reviwed papers.
TheSkepticChristian 4 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian sigh, I hate wasting my time to do reasearch you are not willing to do. For the last time, how about something funded by nation geographic and the national academy of sciences? You PROMISE to shut up this time? .sciencedaily. com /releases/2008/10/081027174545. htm
sonofcohen 4 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian you do need to correct the spacing on the link of course
sonofcohen 4 months ago
@sonofcohen Your article on time, is NOT a peer reviewed paper, nor it proves that Solomon's empire was powerful and glorous. It seems that you have difficulty understading what a peer reviewed paper is, from a respected journal. Anyways, next year Sorenson is going to publish a Book that will present powerful evidences for the BofM.
I like that the research was supported by Nat Geo, you should see Nat Geo :), its very respect society. See Bible episodes :).
Open questions prove nothing.
TheSkepticChristian 4 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Just to tell you that sonofcohen used Nat Geo against the BofM, but he ignores Nat Geo when it talks abotu the Bible.
sonofcohen claims that he proved me wrong, and he claims that many archaeologists believe in the Historicity of the Bible. Well, most of them don't believe in the Historicity of the Exodus, and the few that do, they don't claim to have powerful evidence to support it.
sonofcohen just quoted archaeologists that lived 50 years ago, to support his views.
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian Nat Geo against the Book of Mormon is on anti- Mormon propaganda. Nat Geo against the Bible is forbidden for anti- Mormons to read, it would require independent thought.
BornAgainstMormons 5 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons True, the Nat Geo letter is always in anti mormon websites, but I don't disagree with the letter that much, after all, Nat Geo was talking about traditional assumptions. For example, we know the indians came from Syberia, but in 600 BC a small group of Hebrews came to the Americas, and mix with them.
"anti- Mormons to read, it would require"
LOL
I don't think its against the Bible, but its true, anti-mormons don't like Nat Geo when it talks about the Bible
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian I thought Nat Geo simply said they don't have any proof concerning the Book of Mormon? As did the Smithsonian.
BornAgainstMormons 5 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Yes that true, AT Geo basically only said: "... Society does not know of anything found so far that has substantiated the Book" (in other words conclusive irrefutable evidence)
"New World's earliest inhabitants arrived from Asia via the Bering land bridge"
(I support the limited geography of the BofM) As we can see National Geographic is not anti-Mormon, it also stated:
"Book of Mormon is clearly a work of great spiritual power; millions have read and revered its words"
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
the title really doesn't go with the video. where is this arrogance you talk about too? none of it makes any sense.
pedroelcarvron 5 months ago
@pedroelcarvron What?
BornAgainstMormons 5 months ago
@MsMambomama Who said that only Mormons would go to heaven?? Have you heard of the terrestrial kingdom? that's heaven
Now I have a challenge for you, Explain AB resistance or Plant speciation without using The theory of evolution
TheSkepticChristian 7 months ago
@MsMambomama "One True God of love and truth"
""When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F Roberts"
By your god, I mean the Trinitarian god that has Pagan origins, and Greek Philosophy
TheSkepticChristian 7 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons I've struggled with this inherited condition for since my early teens. So, I am intimately acquainted with this illness, and what conditions can worsen an already chronic condition into a lethal one. The additional stresses placed by the Mormon culture on a person predisposed to depression, young men in particular, can be lethal. I firmly believe if I hadn't left the LDS church, I would be dead. As is my brother, and that poor Swartz kid who couldn't say "No Bishop".
eeikman 8 months ago
@eeikman There is no need to make things up.
BornAgainstMormons 5 months ago
2501 Views
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@drinkswithnedkelly Obviously I had to block you for vulgarity like that. I allow your continual lies because I am used to them, but the vulgarity will not be tolerated.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
Shawn McCraney is a former Mormon, served a Mormon mission, taught seminary etc. Now he is a born again Christian & does a very good job pointing out the lies that Mormonism is founded upon. It is not anti-Mormon 2 point out lies that Mormons are being taught, and asked to swallow as truth. For example figures 2 and 4 on page 41 of the "Pearl of Great Price" are pictures of the egyptian godesses Isis and Maat, yet Joseph identified them as men. Figure 1 is the egyptian god Osiris. These R facts.
1stcorinthians1vrs18 8 months ago
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 And Judas was a former Apostle. What is your point? Sheep in wolves clothing. Pastor McCraney was a horrible Mormon Christian.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Good "Mormon Christians" R just really good hypocrites. The Bible teaches that all have sinned Romans 3:23 It also says that if any man says he is without sin, he is a liar 1 John 1:8-10. Mormons R typically sheep in wolves clothing, they pretend 2 B sinless, so they can pretend 2 B
"worthy" of heaven, & they walk around condemning others who are not as "good" as themselves. In Luke 18:9-14 Jesus describes typical Mormonism, quite well. Salvation is by grace John 3:18,36.
1stcorinthians1vrs18 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Pastor McCraney was considered a horrible mormon only after HE made the decision the leave your organization Instead of any understanding,mormons completely black ball anyone who chooses to leave.Is that being Christian? I think it defines a cult, P.S. mormons aren't christians,their mormons.
TheSereika 8 months ago
@TheSereika I am pretty sure adultery is always horrible.
BornAgainstMormons 5 months ago
Here is a list of about a dozen books -- both fiction and nonfiction -- about different aspects of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' history. .
omiolo 8 months ago
(Salt Lake City, UT) - The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced policy changes have been approved regarding the length of missions and housing costs for senior missionaries. The new changes provide opportunity for people to serve full-time missions who would not otherwise have the resources, according to the announcement.
omiolo 8 months ago
LDS Church Senior Missionary Policy changes to Provide More Opportunity
omiolo 8 months ago
If mormonism wasn't false,this would all be soo boring.What a great way to meet people.This is better than face book.Hey I know,lets call it Two facedbook....
TheSereika 8 months ago
@TheSereika Rambling?
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
Hyrum!' He, however, instantly arose, and with a firm, quick step, and a determined expression of countenance, approached the door, and pulling the six-shooter left by Brother Wheelock from his pocket, opened the door slightly, and snapped the pistol six successive times; only three of the barrels, however, were discharged. I afterwards understood that two or three were wounded by these discharges, two of whom, I am informed died." (History of the Church, Vol. 7, p. 100, 102 & 103)
999LDS 8 months ago
Shawn McCraney for president.
999LDS 8 months ago
LDS members in Joplin try to rebuild church, homes
omiolo 8 months ago
2400 Views
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
I guess when Bringham Young said that Blacks will never enter the priesthood, that was allowing them... into ....the priesthood? I guess when Kimble allowed black people into the priesthood, he was doing so to clarify that they had always been in the priesthood?
cagray05 9 months ago
@cagray05 I don't appreciate the religious slur. As a Mormon Christian I find religious slurs against all that Jesus Christ taught.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons What religious slur? Brigham Young said African Americans would never be allowed into the priesthood. He also said they would be servants in heaven if they made it there. Sounds like your problem is with Brigham Young, a former LDS prophet, and not with me.
cagray05 8 months ago
@cagray05 "Bringham Young"
You CONTINUE to stone the Prophets with your derogatory names! REPENT!!!
omiolo 8 months ago
@omiolo They don't seem to care, it is as if they are already in hell.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@AnointedShield - Blacks were also used as non cash tithing settlements.. was this also true for whites?
54v115 10 months ago
@54v115 Slavery was illegal in Salt Lake City. Learn the truth.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons - (1) Learn some History... never mind about 'your' truth... it's in 'your History'. Or would you prefer that 'edited' also? The practice was never widespread, some Utah pioneers held African-American slaves until 1862 when Congress abolished slavery in the territories. Three slaves, Green Flake, Hark Lay, and Oscar Crosby, came west with the first pioneer company in 1847, and their names appear on a plaque on the Brigham Young Monument in downtown Salt Lake City.
54v115 8 months ago
@54v115 If that is true, that would be the exception that proves the rule.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons (2) Slavery was legal in Utah as a result of the Compromise of 1850, which brought California into the Union as a free state while allowing Utah and New Mexico territories the option of deciding the issue by "popular sovereignty."
54v115 8 months ago
@54v115 Slavery was illegal in Salt Lake City. The Mormon Christian capital. Slavery was encourage and protected among the Southern Baptists, the larger the population of Baptists, the most slavery was protected and legal.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons (3) The Mormon church had no official doctrine for or against slaveholding, and leaders were ambivalent. In 1836 Joseph Smith wrote that masters should treat slaves humanely and that slaves owed their owners obedience. During his presidential campaign in 1844, however, he came out for abolition. Brigham Young tacitly supported slaveholding, declaring that although Utah was not suited for slavery the practice was "ordained by God".
54v115 8 months ago
@54v115 Read the Doctrine and Covenants or the Book of Mormon. I doubt you know any Mormon Christian official doctrine.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons _ try reading your OWN History of the Church. It's in there - oh by the way.. that's an approved LDS publication. As for the D+C or the BOM .. which versions do you recommend? AND Mormons are not Christian.. God was never an exalted man as Smith and his subsequent leaders claimed.. ALSO read the- The King Follett discourse, or King Follett sermon, an address delivered in Nauvoo, Illinois by Joseph Smith .. you may learn something.
54v115 6 months ago
@54v115 You don't want to read official doctrine?
BornAgainstMormons 5 months ago
@crazy456eyes Obviously I had to remove your post and block your for your extreme vulgarity. I saw on your channel that you are a supporter of Testriftene and Pastor McCraney. That would explain the extreme hate and vulgarity in your comment.
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
silence & crickets.
awolLDSasap 10 months ago
@awolLDSasap Silence is something we never get from the enemies of All Righteousness.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Enemies of all righeousness? I know yah are, but what am I?
awolLDSasap 8 months ago
@awolLDSasap OK? You can resort to that.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons typo, "Righteousness" Q. Why baptize the dead? Christians do not contact or worry about the dead. "let the dead bury the dead" & "why stand we in jeopardy every hour"? "For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." "sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death". "Death is swallowed up in victory". Not by our merits, but "In Christ" we have victory over death.
awolLDSasap 8 months ago
@awolLDSasap You are fabricating things.
BornAgainstMormons 5 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons you should know that "sonofcohen " called me the anti-Christ, and he also thinks that he is smarter than National Geographic
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
@TheSkepticChristian He appears periodically on my videos. He is usually more of a hit and run anti- Mormon.
BornAgainstMormons 5 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Yea, he likes pointing at the minor problems of the BofM, but he ignores the serious problems in the Bible.
TheSkepticChristian 5 months ago
What are the Mormons beliefs on Mexicans? Are they cursed by God in some way? Are they not worthy? Please tell me.
myrio5 11 months ago
@myrio5 Mormon Christians don't believe anyone is cursed except for the wicked. Repentance is open to them too.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
Mormonism is anti-Christ. John 14:6 John 3:18,36 1Corinthians 1:17-21. Here is pure truth: On page 41 of the Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith fraudulently identifies figures 2 & 4 as men. Any non blind person can see that they are very obviously women, and if you look up the egyptian godesses Isis and Maat and do some study on them, you will come to see that figures 2 and 4 would have been identified as them, if Joseph were anything other than a fraud and a liar.
carterfamily8903 11 months ago
@carterfamily8903 i believe in a way ya they are anti-christ they teach things against what the bible says and what jesus said
bobbyraejohnson 10 months ago
@bobbyraejohnson I'm a convert to the LDS church and there are many things that are misunderstood in the Bible, things that people in mainstream Christian religions don't understand or overlook. The Mormon church is more Christian than any other church. It will bring you closer to Jesus rather than farther away.
cindybin2001 8 months ago
Es lógico que la verdadera iglesia tenga oposición y que venga de uno que fue un miembro aparentemente de larga trayectoria. Es parte de una estrategia de Satanás que fue un bello angel y hermano de Jesús pero se convirtio en su astuto enemigo.
It´s logic that the true church has opposition and that it comes from one who was apparently a great member of the church. Is part of an strategy of Satan which was a beautiful angel and brother of Jesus but became his wily foe.
dorisfenella 11 months ago
@dorisfenella Can you find Satan being a brother of Jesus in Mormon Christian scriptures?
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainst Por ahí debe estar no es una parte que atesoro para recordar, no me concentro en las cosas tristes. Por que lo triste es que Lucifer se convirtio en Satan cuando pudo seguir siendo bueno y bello como lo fue alguna vez.
dorisfenella 8 months ago
@dorisfenella Does that mean it is not in the LDS Scriptures?
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
you also probably beieve Joe Smith didnt say he was better then Jesus who you clam to be your lord so who is the real lier?
greeneyesangel69 11 months ago
@greeneyesangel69 I believe the truth.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
Compiled by Provo author Rick Walton, the book has 128 pages of quotes from well-known people, arranged chronologically, showing a range of viewpoints about Mormonism through the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries. Personal thoughts of public figures such as Susan B. Anthony, Buffalo Bill Cody, Mark Twain,
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo Rick Walton?
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
What famous broadcaster said Mormons in Utah look "so innocent"? What reality TV celebrity said she peered out at the Los Angeles temple every night as a way of grounding herself?
You can find the musings of Mike Wallace, Sharon Osbourne and many other public figures in the new book "Much Ado about Mormons" (Covenant Communications, $15.99), due in bookstores early April.
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo Author of the book?
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
Why is it that any time more facts surface that expose the lies and man made theology of the mormons,They call them Lies?I guess the best defense is a good offense,right boys....
TheSereika 11 months ago
@TheSereika Please offer proof. I did that.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
Do the mormons own youtube too! Why are my comments pending approval?Hmmmm... somethings smells like stinky magic underwear
TheSereika 11 months ago
@TheSereika Your mocking of that which is sacred to others reeks of Nazi tactics.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons You that attack ALL other religons reeks even worse.God hate's pride...
TheSereika 8 months ago
@TheSereika Let me know which religion I protest?
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
You don't even want to address the obvious lies of WHO?Instead I attack others?Think about WHO'S tactics?and where they originate?Well... first of all I was raised in Utahrd around you self ritious,arrogant, hipicriticle dumbass's,and I experienced first hand exactly what your all about.So I decided to research morminism(which you haven't) and found out smith was a dishonest ,lying cheating conman who got people like you to believe his fairytale storys and man made theology.wake up Mr. mormon!
TheSereika 11 months ago
@TheSereika You might have something important to say but I can't get past the religious slurs.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@AnointedShield I back it up with the annotated facts. I find that not only truthful but scholarly.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
That is some caller. Check out some of Shawn's cool videos!
Born again mormon - "Heart of the matter"
testskriftene's Channel
rickgigliotti 11 months ago
@rickgigliotti No comment on Pastor McCraney's lies being exposed? I couldn't live like you do, constantly swallowing the lies of people you support.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
More lies by @BornAgainstMormons Shawn did not say or promote anything here. Is this all you can do is cut and edit short parts of other callers and say "Shawn [is] Promoting Antimormon Lies"?
rickgigliotti 11 months ago
@rickgigliotti "Shawn did not say or promote anything here. "
MAYBE you should watch the video BEFORE commenting?? Something NEW, i know.
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo I think rick trolled and than disappeared.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons "I think rick trolled and than disappeared. "
ANTImormons don't like being challenged. It forces them to think and when they have to do that themselves. They get confused and either go for personal ATTACKS or disappear.
omiolo 8 months ago
@omiolo Back to prison?
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
Your so called church leaders and or prophets have been spueing out lies since the begining .Shawn just tells you things they don't want you to know.Even though it's all facts,you continue to grasp for straws.
TheSereika 1 year ago
@TheSereika You don't even want to address the obvious lies of Pastor McCraney? Instead you want to attack others? Think about your tactics, and where they originate.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
Ummm... in context fella Shawn was simply listening to a caller call in. Taking things out of context is in itself a lie. Please list straightfoward what you believe his lies are.
RedSun875 1 year ago
@RedSun875 Pastor McCraney agreed with and supported lies. Why is that acceptable in your eyes?
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Your funny man. He did not agree. He was being polight. Context is everything. Secondly why are you so sure the statement is a lie? Not that it matters much in doctrinal divisions we might have with other. :)
RedSun875 11 months ago
@RedSun875 Watch the video again. Over and over again if needs be.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Do you realise your reply is three months old?
RedSun875 8 months ago
@RedSun875 My reply is only a day old.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Ummm, not according to my computer.
RedSun875 8 months ago
@RedSun875 Check again?
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Still says three months. This last one says 8 hours.
RedSun875 8 months ago
this video is absolutely ridiculous. lol. it says african americans were always allowed in lds churches, yet they could only serve as "slaves" in heaven. Until the mid 1900's, that was the lds belief, and once the Jim Crowe laws were fully abolished, the lds changed that belief. On top of that, disabling ratings for your video dude? HAHAHAHAHAHA, whoever made this needs to move out of utah.
kevinissaved 1 year ago
@kevinissaved This video exposes lies promoted by Pastor McCraney. if you have a valid point, you do not have to lie.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
and wat is this video trying to prove?
pedroelcarvron 1 year ago
@pedroelcarvron In combination with that other video I recently saw on youtube "Jesus Christ I will survive", I have the following conviction: Jesus Christ did resurrect, came back to the Americas, then was hit by an autobus, then died from this accident, never to return. The main point the video proved that Shawn breathes through his mouth.
Kannon12 1 year ago
Wow, that video was weak. Almost no substance at all. FAIL
lanakilapalani 1 year ago
@lanakilapalani I present facts and link to them and you call that 'no substance'? I think you are simply turning a blind eye.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Well it looks like i'm supposed to guess what facts your pointing to in your links is that right? I'm sorry i'm not as enlightened as you because I don't posses the magic powers of the mormon priesthood. I'm guessing that's what you call a blind eye. Assumptions are not facts okay cubby. Good luck defending a lie you got a lot of fabricated excuses, explanations, and apologies to write. It's tough ask the CIA.
lanakilapalani 11 months ago
@lanakilapalani No need to guess.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
Thirty Quebec congregations of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, through the Mormon Helping Hands program, joined forces to support the 17th annual Great Canadian Shoreline Cleanup. More than 400 Helping Hands volunteers worked at two cleanup sites in the Montreal area. The shoreline cleanup projects were at Montreal's Angrignon Park and along the St. Lawrence River in Longueuil. This was the first ever Quebec-wide Mormon Helping Hands Service Day. .
omiolo 1 year ago
"The truth is that African Americans always had full membership rights in the lds church"
THAT IS THE LIE. African Americans could not hold the priesthood or attend the temple until 1978. The church taught that they were descendents of Cain. If you believe that they had full membership rights, you have never read a thing about church history. I grew up being taught that blacks would NEVER hold the priesthood, as was taught by Brigham Young
drinkswithnedkelly 1 year ago
@drinkswithnedkelly I stand by my comment and denounce your distortion of a response.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons I was raised in the LDS church when blacks were denied the priesthood and the ability to go to the temple - essentials of salvation in LDS doctrine. How can you possibly say that African Americans had full membership rights when they were denied essential ordinances until 1978. To back up that policy (which was not revelation) McCon\kie and several apostles and presidents made numerous racist statements, including that blacks were Satan's representatives on earth.
drinkswithnedkelly 11 months ago
@drinkswithnedkelly The temple and the priesthood are not essential for salvation. You either left because you were uninformed or you are being deceitful.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons The most emphasized teaching in the LDS church is families being sealed forever. Blacks were denied that. Blacks could not enter the temple. They could not have the priesthood. They could not baptise their children. They were taught that they were decendents of Cain, satans representatives on earath and less valiant in the pre-existance. It's all documented in pre -1978 church publications including Mormon Doctrine.
drinkswithnedkelly 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons How ridiculous that you denounce drinkswithnedkelly's response as a distortion. Even your Ex-Prophet Gordon Hinckley confirms what drinkswithnedkelly stated. It's right here from his own mouth: watch?v=P_KERZlwOXM
Apparently not only was Carter considering removing the tax exempt status of the Mormon church if they didn't stop treating blacks differently, but other organizations were threatening boycotting Mormon sports, etc., so suddenly that year, blacks were permitted.
Elhardt 10 months ago
@Elhardt I presented a list of all of Carter's executive orders. Instead of trying to make things true by posting your opinion, read the facts I present.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons What? I posted that Carter was considering removing the tax exempt status of the Mormon church if they didn't allow blacks the same status as whites. It obviously didn't get to the stage of an executive order because the Mormon church caved in to the pressure. So again you post something that doesn't make sense.
Elhardt 8 months ago
@Elhardt The Pastor McCraney scholar said that there was an executive order, I can refute your rumors about other things. However, to stay focused, are you ready to admit there was no such executive order?
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons And why is it every Mormon youtuber censors comments with this Comment Pending Approval nonsense? That right there says a lot about how scared they are about what people might say. It makes it impossible to carry on any kind of discussion with anybody.
Elhardt 8 months ago
@Elhardt I am sure that is the only conclusion you can think of.
BornAgainstMormons 8 months ago
@drinkswithnedkelly True, oh so true. Mormon response: Call them lies of liars, and deny, deny, deny.
cagray05 8 months ago
The victims included the lead crime reporter at El Diario newspaper in Ciudad Juarez, a popular local Mormon leader and a rural activist who spoke out
omiolo 1 year ago
"I don't know exactly where I'll go," said Satterthwaite, who is a devout Mormon. "I'm still looking, but I want to do that first."
omiolo 1 year ago
". . .Feed my sheep! That was a request, a commandment, if you like. If you are starving yourself, in one way or another, will some other member who has made the same covenant as you, see your need and reach out a hand? Is it not blessed when they do? They are standing in for Christ.
omiolo 1 year ago
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that the family is the basic unit not just of society, but of heaven and eternity. A familiar LDS slogan is "Families Are Forever." Latter-day Saints focus much of their resources on families: forming families by marrying, growing families by having children, strengthening families through church activity, defending families from influences or situations they deem threatening
omiolo 1 year ago
1500 Views
BornAgainstMormons 1 year ago
If he were false the mormons would get their scholar to prove him wrong. He only speaks the truth by comparing mormon teachings to the bible. Open your mind and heart, it's not that hard. The hard part will be finding out the horrible truth about mormonism that is hidden from members.
xSpartacusx1976 1 year ago
McCraney is a complete fool. He is a liar. He says he loves the LDS, but his behavior says otherwise. His behavior shows he is not a follower of Christ. His agenda is very clear.
LDStothecore 1 year ago
Jude 1: 18 - There shall be mockers in the latter-days. Maybe Jude had seen him in that vision because he sure fits the bill.
THELDSLIFE 1 year ago
Please specify, exactly where is the lie supposed to be here? This is why the LDS Church reversed the teachings of J. Smith himself & Brigham Young.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
@VictorLepanto "where is the lie supposed to be here?"
STOP playing STUPID. It might work amongst your fellow ANTImormons, however, it has NO validity amongst ANYONE else!
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo This is the oldest method used by the anti- mormons. You supply them with referenced and sourced material showing them exactly where they have lied and they pretend that the world is still flat.
BornAgainstMormons 1 year ago
@BornAgainstMormons "You supply them with referenced and sourced material showing them exactly where they have lied and they pretend that the world is still flat"
to them the world was ALWAYS flat.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo Sometimes I wonder if they will ever recover from their constant head in the sand mentality. I can show them fact after fact and all I get is 'what facts?'.
BornAgainstMormons 1 year ago
This person works for Satan.
LDStothecore 1 year ago
@LDStothecore
If he works for satan then he is lying right? Can you prove what he says wrong by taking your scrptures and comparing them? I know its hard for LDS to question things when we are told not to but if you say stuff like that then you need to prove your statement.
xSpartacusx1976 1 year ago
@xSpartacusx1976 I have proven Pastor McCraney wrong and deceitful in this video. I would say it is hard for you to question Pastor McCraney no matter how wrong he is. Please don't continue to ignore the obvious lies as I have referenced.
BornAgainstMormons 1 year ago
I give B for effort, but a fail for information. If you discredit him finding such an order, why not find an expert to say one way or the other? (legislator perhaps?) My guess is your aim in this video is not uncovering truth but discrediting Mr. McCraney.
That being said, I thought the statue with the hand over the face was a nice touch:)
TheGrahampointer 1 year ago
@TheGrahampointer You want me to find a legislator to respond to something that anti- mormons made up?
BornAgainstMormons 1 year ago
An LDS release said the refurbishments include the restoration of bas-relief friezes of scriptural scenes and original LeConte Stewart murals. Also installed were new art glass windowpanes and glass panels, as well as hardwood trim and inlaid panels featuring koa.
omiolo 1 year ago
Renovations that started in January 2009 include structural and mechanical repairs, more elevators for wheelchair users, and overall beautification inside and out, said Whiting, who described the temple as "magnificent."
omiolo 1 year ago
While soccer fans from much of the rest of the world were trying to make their way to her home country for the latter stages of the World Cup, Kim Brown was traveling from just north of Johannesburg, South Africa, to a hillside between the villages of Manchester and Palmyra.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo why is it that you will so easily criticize and reject someone but you won't actually discuss aspects of the gospel? why is it that the only things you say are one or all of the following: hurtful, spiteful, condescending, judgmental and ignorant.
you want the world to accept you as a Christian but you won't act like a Christian and you won't even discuss your own scriptures and doctrines. why is that?
SvenTveskegg 1 year ago
@SvenTveskegg Obviously I know you to be LYING and DECEIVING. So what worthwhile discussion could we have until that changes? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
omiolo 1 year ago
Gas prices are edging up and the economy is recovering only slowly, but you wouldn't know it by the number of participants and visitors in town for the annual Hill Cumorah Pageant.
omiolo 1 year ago
who lived in the same time and general vicinity as Joseph Smith (and would likely have had access to the same resources) -- claimed that steel was unknown in Nephi's day and wasn't invented for several hundreds of years later (Mormonism: Embracing the Origin, Rise and Progress of the Sect, 22). Even as late as 1920, some critics were claiming that Joseph Smith got it wrong and that steel was unknown in Nephi's day (Stuart Martin, The Mystery of Mormonism, 44).
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo haha don't want to talk about that subject, i take it? why not? you've talked to me so much about "rejecting prophets", so let's discuss what some of the early prophets of the LDS Church have said that were once doctrines but that are now "rejected" even by members. why does the Church not practice blood atonements anymore?
SvenTveskegg 1 year ago
@SvenTveskegg what specifically are you referring to?
omiolo 1 year ago
When Nephi slew Laban in order to obtain the plates of brass, Nephi used Laban's own sword made of "precious steel" (1 Nephi 4:9). James H. Hunt, a critic writing in 1844, listed "steel" as one proof that the Book of Mormon was fraudulent. Hunt --
omiolo 1 year ago
Woolley said missionary efforts now combine proselytizing with strengthening inactive LDS members. "And I think that effort is going to be very fruitful," he said. "When they have joined and when they've gone through the fires of commitment, they're rock-solid. They're staying, and they're not going away."
omiolo 1 year ago