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  • ps hope your still boosting about in this...it was 2007

  • You must be one of those arseholes that drives about dumping off for no reason.........

    .......just like me lol ;-)

  • sum whack off of dat ha alot quicker than mine

  • Fucken veasy's old rs turbo

  • Welwyn Garden City boy ;) your about 10 mins away from my work.

  • I guess it's either the alternator is overcharging or you've got an underdrive pulley that's causing it. By the way, glad that you've dumped that bitch... Can't wait to see the next post of your new ride...

  • I guess it's either the alternator is overcharging or you've got an underdrive pulley that's causing it. By the way, glad that you've dumped that bitch... Can't wait to see the next post of your new ride...

  • is it true that it ruins the turbo by making it chatter ? i had a escort rs turbo and it did the same and the turbo went and they told me it was down to the chatter cos it knackers the shaft in it or summat ? i dont no how true it is . but all i know is that it sounds amazing :-)

  • @b4mb4m100 - An Escort RS Turbo runs Bosch KE-Jetronic so unless it was converted to EFi you wouldn't really hear chatter. And no it's total bollocks unless you were running at more than 30psi or using T4 unit. Whoever told you that is an amateur. My own Escort runs 25psi on a Stg 3 hybrid T3 with no DV and has done for a few years and many thousands of mile son and off track. Upon recent inspection it came back as being in perfect condition.

  • @Oranoco yeh it was on efi running hybrid t3 turbo motosports developments ecu . it had been messed about with alot it had a mondeo block on it off a 2litre . it kept breaking all the time haha i want a fiesta now just looking at getting 1 but i dont want 1 thats been messed about with and there getting hard to find ..... but i want it to have the chatter like yours cos mine sounded amazing ..

  • @b4mb4m100 - ZVH's are usually quite sturdy. I'm still gutted to have been talked into selling that car. Should have kicked the bitch out and kept the car. Cost less, was better looking and made me smile more. lol

  • @Oranoco keep the car mate haha i have been talked into selling cars off my missus then got rid of them and then thought what have i done i love that car . i have a honda civic type r now and she wants me to get rid of that but its not going to happen lol

  • @b4mb4m100 - Saddly too late mate. Car went 3 years ago and the ex went 2 years ago. Can't complain though as the new girlfriend is a huge improvement across the board. She even comes out on track days with me and doesn't throw her toys out the pram when I want to spend money on my cars.

  • @Oranoco i heard it depends on how good turbo is to how long it lasts bearings and stuff go aparently tht wat i heard from a performance car mag

  • @lukethekanefan - Not really a case of how good more a case of the type of turbocharger. The GT series turbos must run one, they are however excellent. It's often more to do with teh engine management systems. The Escort Cosworth is a case in point, the older Webber Marreli managed car does not need a DV but the latter EECIV managed car does as it runs a MAF sensor that ends up metereing the air twice without one

  • Okay, cheers pal. And how does the chatter not damage your turbos blades, is it because you don't have a high boost pressure?

  • Okay, thanks... Car sounds beefy by the way :) is there anyway I could make a fiesta rs turbo make this sound as it has a garrett t2?

  • @anthonywalsh1960 - Yes, fit an open cone filter such as a K&N and don't fit a dump valve.

  • Oranoco- can I ask Is this running on a t3 turbo? And is it just a normal BOV that is making the sound?

  • @anthonywalsh1960 - Hybrid T3 with no dump valve/BOV

  • Oranaco if it doing that it will fuk it cz the hole point in havein a inturnal wast gage is to get rid of the air thats not need cz it can fuk your turbo faster

  • @oTzSkiiLZz - After translating your post into English I can say without any doubt of my knowledge on this that it has nothing to do with the wastegate and on this turbocharger at this boost level is in no way damaging. That is absolute fact!

  • Dude, did you just drive with the handbrakes on? I noticed there's a red light on your dashboard.

  • @rowentan - No mate, it was the battery light. Everything was fine yet the damned light was on feintly. Never gave any bother or failed to start in the 3 years I had it. Tried everything bar another set of clocks but sold the car on before sorting thanks to whinging bitch of an ex

  • wgc hatfield!!!! big up

  • i wanna rs turbo. anyone one swap one for my vr6? lol

  • compressor surge is what it is

  • @shmellyx - I'm sorry mate but that is not right. Surge is where the compressed air (boost) going into the engine isn't being consumed as quickly as it's being produced. What is happening in my clip is the compressed air is passing back through the turbo once the throttle butterfly is closed.

  • Loads of people swear that u need a dv. I've had my zetec turbo for years and the gt28 has never been harmed from not running a dv. There for queers and children. Do people not wonder why rally cars don't run them. There not needed. The chatter I get from my wastegate is the absolute nuts.

  • sounds like that dinosar that spits acid off jarasic park 1

    amazing car (Y)

  • @terribleone1234  Dilophosaurus!

  • It sounds nice, but you need a blow off valve

    Or isn't That true?

  • @justmarinus - Absolutely untrue on these cars and turbo chargers unless running circa 30psi of boost

  • @Oranoco Ok thenks, I don't know very much about this...

  • cool look up RSSPECIAL1

  • hey what steering wheel is that?

  • @Hellfreeze . It's a Momo Fighter 330mm. Burried in the back of my wardrobe now though. lol

  • @Oranoco thanks! my brother had one on his evo, and i loved it, but never knew what it was

  • lol soounds like one of those springy door stoppers when u step on them....sounds magic though!!! im a big turbo lover!

  • ha ha sounds like a laughing squirrel, that made me laugh lol. Either way cars sounds good although that chatter would get on my nerves on a daily basis, but if on a track its all good and exciting.

  • sound like a bird

  • It sounds like a dolphin!! haha

  • Good lord that chatter sounds so good!

  • Probably won't break anything, but it reduces performance. When the throttle plate closes, it forces the charged air back into the turbo and over the fins. That's what the noise is... air going through the turbo backwards, essentially. The negative effect of this is that a turbo's blades will only force air one way. If air moves across the surface of them backwards, they slow down VERY quickly. NOT what you want your turbo doing. Takes that little bit longer to spool up again. See?

  • To a degree you are of course correct but in the real world and under normal driving conditions there is NO notable difference with or without one. I ran my track day toy with a DV for many years until it became the cause of some gremlins. It was removed and I've never looked back and the car has clocked up an additional 20k miles since.One will NOT be going back on when the cra resurfaces for the 2011 show season

  • @Psychosix

    peacefully disagree, no bov means you retain alot pressure in the ic pipes, in effect AIDING spool as your not trying to build up pressure again cause youve blown off all that air with a dump valve....

    dumping all that pressured air slows spool up between shifts, i currently run no bov, (not on a fiesta mind you), but spool between shifts is much improved.

    also the turbo DOESNT 'slow down very quickly' because it...it barely effects it.

  • @jdm1hunter I do see your point, matey... but again, I'm inclined to disagree. I've run cars without and without BOV/DV/Recirc-DV etc. etc. and I've found different things worth best for different cars. Your basic 1.6 CVH powered Fiesta Turbo will probably get away with no DV all day, every day... but on my IHI Leon Cupra R (BAM engine), no DV was horrific. I NEEDED either an atmospheric purge or a recircluating DV. I don't want to ever see my impellar slowing down... NEVER.

  • @Psychosix - You absolutely must not run the VAG 1.8T without a recirc valve. Mind you, you also shouldn't run it with an atmospheric valve as you would be dumping metered air which will have an effect on the fueling. It's nothing to do with "basic Fiesta Turbo getting away with it", It has everything to do with the system being MAP based rather than MAF based and the fact that the Garret T3 is a sturdy turbo in comparison to the limp KKK turbo on the VAG cars. Which I also own of

  • handbrake light on? mine does that in my mk 4 escort 

  • @robtminnican - It was the battery light on dimmly. Never sussed it out, car never let me down or failed to start and everything tested ok. Wierd but hey

  • @Oranoco mine kind of pulses when i go though deep water in mine :S when the engines about to stall or cut out too :S

  • sounds nice

  • I hear turbo chatter is bad for the turbo...is this true...cause i sounds sick!!!!

  • @WarPigs463 - There isn't a blanket answer as it depends on the turbo. On RS Turbo's it absolutely is NOT damaging. Other cars and turbo's you will need to seek the advise of a specialist

  • @joshybjoshy1 Do it yoursefl mate. There are loads of places that will do it but it'll be a hard hit to the wallet. Worst part of the whole process is getting the Escort RS Turbo downpipe mated to the Fiesta RS Turbo exhaust system, everything else is pretty damn straight forward

  • That noise is like porn

  • Hi, i want to ask - what Blow-Off ventile is used here? or what does the sound (when shifting) we have blow off ventile in our ford escort.. and that does like when you press nitrous in NFS underground 2 :-)

  • @petr459 No BOV or Dump Valve is used on this car the sound is simply the compressed air having nowhere to go once the throttle butterfly has closed and going back through the turbo. The sound is the blades chopping that compressed air (a crude explanation). If your Escort is an RS Turbo then I'm afraid you won't get it to chatter as it uses the Bosch KE-Jetronic injection system and the metering head muffles the sound to make it pretty much unaudible.

  • @Oranoco okay, thanks.. when we put the BOV out it was unable to start...

  • @petr459 - Did you properly blank the hole in the charge carrier and the vacume feed? KE-Jetronic is very fussy about air leaks

  • @RSTBADBOY well said m8

  • I used to have a Fes Turbo but the gearbox kept going wrong. Bought an Uno Turbo eventually and that was far better mechanically and could reliably boost the engine to well over a bar and had no problems. Fes used to dump awesome though!

  • @kiereemon - The BC box used in these isn't the sturdiest box out there but a rebuilt unit (done by somebody who knows what they are doing rather than your average box recon place) or swapping to an IB5 box (with front starter) is enough to keep most cars in check. The blown CVH will happily run a bar all day long, th eweak link with the Fiesta is the frankly naff T2 turbo but fitting the T3 from the Escort is both easy and effective

  • mr oranaco, sounds ace pal. From sludge

  • awesome sound them cars are like grown up go karts

    wish my v4o t4 made same but it hardly makes any noise at all for 200bhp

    motor :( so wish i owned one of these fiesta's

  • ive got a garret t3 stage 2 to put on my s1 rs turbo...how much boost u running to get this sound mate? sounds sickk!

  • @notoriousdholi - The Escort RS Turbo use Bosch KE-Jetronic as opposed to the Fiestas EEC-IV system and as such uses a metering unit which muffles the sound so it's barely audible. Only way to get it to chatter is to change the engine management system. Bit much to get a noise though eh?

  • love it mate, nice car

  • yes i couldnt agreee more with you mate :)

  • yes i know what you mean little pricks in 1 litres who dont know any thing about cars other than stupid body kits and crashing them, but on the other hand ford rs, xr`s and so on are just he best proper classics and who ever dont agree go die :)

  • looks like the steering wheel of a g25?

  • hrooo that sucks.^^

  • You should seriously consider putting a dump valve back on :S Over time, you'll sod your turbo up : /

  • Oh dear, here we go again. One more time. The Garret turbochargers used on these cars do NOT require the use of a dump valve until you get to T4 in size or run in excess of 30psi through them.

  • How did you mount the camera? :)

  • @CorvetteMichael I mounted it on a proper automotive video camera mount from B-Hague. I actually purchased it to mount on the rear diagnol of the cage in my track car but it did pretty well mounted to the headrest in my Sunday toy as well. Think it was about £90 delivered

  • Is In Your Turbo Blow-Off-squirrel ??

    hahahahaha 0:49 squirrel

  • do you have pigeons landing on your car by any chance? :-D

  • mmmmmmmmmmmmm fucking up your turbo

  • As I have said countless times in these clips. The Garret T3 turbo used in this application is NOT damaged by the chatter. Damage is only an issue once the boost level is taken beyond 30psi, at the15psi I was running it's well well within the safety limits. Please do your homework on the cars and the turbo's before posting inaccurate statements.

  • love the sound of it, but i think after a while it might start to piss me off lol.

  • Hi mate I've got a Fiesta RS Turbo wih a T3 upgrade etc..... Just wondering how do you get them to chatter?

  • Remove any fitted dump valve (blanking the vacume hose and the hole left in the charge pipe) and fit a cone filter. Simple as that mate.

  • RS turbo`s are the tits

  • Love it, i just love it :)

  • Man is that the turbo surging???

  • And what do you know about the car or indeed the noise? I shall take a stab in the dark and guess at fuck all

  • 1916valve to make your 1.8 20v turbo sound like that you will have to remove the recirc dumpvalve and get the hole plated up!

  • But at best you will balls the fueling up and at worst you will do the turbo damage as the K03/K03s aren't especially robust turbo chargers.

  • Vey nice :)

    Although was there a light (warning) when your rev's were high?

  • It was the battery ligh on faintly. I never managed to suss out why it was there I checked and double checked everything and the battery never lost its charge. I was stumped!

  • Bad earth possibly m8?My S1 rst does it with all leccy on but not loosing charge or anything bad earthing :(

    Are u by any chance on PF under the same username?

  • Don't think so. Only thing I didn't do was try another set of clocks.

    Indeed I am mate

  • Ah could have been the clock's or the plastic crap with brass on it to connect the point's (forgotten the right name) DOH!

    Ah coolio mate,So u still got this aswell as your blacky mk4? Or just the S2 now?

  • No mate sold her about 18 mnths ago now. My bitch of an ex nagged me into selling up. Still have the S2 but she's in need of some work before resurfacing. Got the daily hack German tank as well though. lol

  • Gutted for ya fella,Woman eh!

    Yeah boi she gonna be rude when she done?

    Haha there good to the beating's u can throw at them :D

  • Ahh well, onwards and upwards. Hoping to push 165mph and somewhere over 300bhp

  • hehehe love that sound

  • what waste gate have you got on that and what have you modified on the engine because i am looking at buying a fiesta zetec and turboing it up and i would love it to sound like that lol

  • Totally standard hybrid Garrett T3 internal item. Car simply ran no dumpvalve and a cone type air filter.

  • how can i make my mk4 1.8t golf sound like that please help

  • You can't safely. These engines require the use of a recirculating dumpvalve to ensure correct fueling and prevent turbo damage as the K03/K03s units used aren't as robust as the Garrett items used in the Ford RS cars.

  • Change the Wastegate/Popoff valve.

  • Noise has nothing to do with wastegate in the slightest. As said you simply remove teh DV but on some cars this can be damaging.

  • what kind of dumpvalve?

  • Chatter would never annoy me. Everytime I hear it, it makes me chuckle. Best sound ever

  • Chatter could never annoy me. Everytime I hear it makes me chuckle, it's soo amusing!

  • that sound would really piss me off after about 5 mins.looks quick though.does the sound annoy you when you are driving it/?

  • It never did to be honest but then it wasn't a daily driver, it was one of my weekend play things

  • I know nothing at all about diesel tuning. As soon as I buy a diesel I will learn as I can't leave any car I've ever owned standard. lol

  • lol sounds like a laughing squirrel :D

  • @zbz112 lol

  • thats loud and nice......

  • I love turbo chatter but this one sounds silly lol

  • how do you get that sound dude, is it just a case of running big boost?

  • On these cars you simply run with a cone filter and don't run a dumpvalve. The cars use a MAP sensor based setup and th eturbochargers are pretty damn robust so no damage results from it. Other cars and engine management systems differ so consult an expert before chattering.

  • would you advise against a dump valve on these? im going to buy an rst you see

  • On an Escort RS Turbo I would advise against the use of one as the KE-Jetronic is a funny old sod and doesn't like air leaks and poor idle and stalling can occur. On a Fiesta it's really down to individual preference

  • isnt the chattering compressor stall/ resonance from the compressor wheels, slowing turbo down with a judder?

    I believe the main risk is snapping the turbo.

  • On some turbo's/ cars yes. On these, running without a dumpvalve is of no consequence whatsoever.

  • Its down to the turbo u use and the speed of the turbo and the boost pressure.

    Personally Im into diesel tuning.

    I was reading about a cummins puller running duel stage twin turbos and running 150psi, thats over TEN bar and getting close to 1000bhp!

  • these cars are fucking awesome

  • lol like a delfin xd

  • stage 2 hybrid??, bollox to these lot.....we love chatter!!!!!!!!!

  • 360° bearing but retains the .36 exhaust housing. It was also on a T3 rather than the cars normal T2

  • Its actually ''Compressor stall''

    sounds the tits.

  • its called compressor surge. you need a BOV or if you do you need a new one

  • lmao at all the experts on here.

    Once more for people - These turbochargers do NOT require a BOV or dumpvalve until 30psi of boost is being used or you run a unit T4 in size or larger. Bot are circumstances very unlikely to be found on RS Turbos

  • Great car, can't say that i know anything about the chatter unlike everyone else on here.

    What i can comment on is your driving and i must say that in general you have very good car control, positioning, steering and attitude. It really is a rare pleassure to watch a driver on Youtube demonstrating 'spirited' driving without putting others at uneccessary risk. Advanced driver by any chance?

  • No BOV needed on rs lol

  • sounds the same as mine mate, i was running a t3 with a k&n cone filter but the noise just didn't sound right so i fitted a pipercross filter ( metal trumpet cone filter) and chatters really well now (no dump valve)

  • err it is a dump valve making the noise.

    a dump valve is necessary to relieve the excess pressure and the blowback of gases when the throttle body closes.

  • Nah mate, thats actually chattering. The same excess pressure you talk about in that case goes back to the compressor and exits throw it.

    Oranoco, what are you running? Standard T2 or ERST T3?

    CheeRS

  • The car was running a stage 2 Hybrid Escort T3

  • No it's not mate. I've already explained the noise in full. PLease bear in mind I built this car so can assure you there was no dump valve on it and there isn't on my other RS either.

  • is chatter not bad for you turbo???

  • Depends on the turbocharger and boost pressure. On these cars no it isn't damaging in the slightest despite what less well informed people may tell you.

  • That is awesome. I need to get me a turbo'd motor. I think a FRST weekend toy may be in the pipeline as i dont think i could do that to a daily drive (my next daily drive will be a volvo V70 T5)

  • I don't regret getting my FRST, my only regret was selling it :( . You'd be surprised what you can do with a daily drive. I started with an Audi A4 which being for work was going to remain standard. Think that lasted a week before it was remapped then it just snowballed.

  • alright fella that sounds the bollox! just got me a mint frst standard wiv dumpvalve how do i get mine to sopund like that?? got me a k&n but not happening

  • Remove the dumpvalve and fit a blanking bung in the hole it leaves in the charge carrier pipe and block off the vacume pipe. Et voila, chatter

  • How exactly is this NOT bad for the turbo? Some cars can do it, some cars can't. Could you explain it? Because I'm much more a fan of this noise than the standard dumpvalve chssssh

  • Sounds like a pigeon

  • if your running no DV then surely the turbo's goin to break soon, what with the excess gas slamming back into the turbo blades and stalling it instead of being dumped

  • Not at all. It's widely accepted by the top Ford tuners in the country that these turbochargers just do not need dump valves until boost pressures in excess of 30psi are being used which isn't all that likely

  • nice

  • i want a rs turbo now

  • that sounds horrible take it off

  • Take what off exactly? Nothing's been added to get the chatter. The car simply runs no DV.

  • its the efi u geek duz not come off, read up on ur cars

  • Ho sorry i thought you brought the dump valve to get that noise

  • That chatter is the nuts!

  • Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet car

  • Turbo chatter happens when the buildup of pressure is too much. the chattering is the air getting chopped up in the turbo... this put a great load on the turbo and usualy bugggers the bearings... obivously this bloke dont care lol!

  • The Garrett Turbo's on these cars are very robust and as long as you don't run more than 30psi of boost or use one of T4 size or larger you will do the units no harm whatsoever.

  • you live in welwyn Do ya? HAHAHA

    i guess i wont race you if i see you xD

  • I used to. I don't own the car anymore though as I sold it last year :(

  • Sounds like you've got Tweety Pie under the bonnet. I wonder what it sounds like when you pass a cat?

  • How does it chatter like that???

  • nice chatter !

  • Sounds beautiful, Mate.

  • very nice man!!!

    can hear the turbo whistle quite good as well :D

    very sweet man, very very sweet. making me jealous lol, sounds like you have a sick ride!

  • Dump valve

  • Nope, It doesn't need one and I don't like shiny stuff without a purpose

  • lol it sounds like a laughing chipmunk is under the bonnet . Does sound good though.

  • Lol, more a content turkey for me.

    How's it running now mate? seen this at a couple North London PF meets looks well :-)

  • boo-hoo I rue the day I sold mine..try Enfield Chase to Hemel via potters bar the back of south mimms the london colney bypass dual carriage ways past st albans and down to hemel all the via the M10 - racing non stop..two cameras nowadays though.

  • If Ihadn't sold mine on in June I would love nothing more. Unfortunately my Escort project has kind of stalled so it may be a while before I get to play with a Fast Ford again :(

  • squirrels

  • i have a fiesta rs turbo how do i get that noise? what do i take off or put on?

  • Remove the airbox and fit a cone filter. Job jobbed. If a dump valve has been added this needs to be removed. Contrary to the marketing pap it doe sthe turbo units on these cars no harm at all.

  • mate, what litre is it, bhp etc