Nonsense! Those are not the remains! The Russian Orthodox Church knows they are not! This is one of the greatest scandals of the 20th and 21st Century.
Nicholas II may have deserved to die, but not the kids. There's always someone left in the line of succession. He has great-grand nephews alive today. One was offered the throne as a figurehead to unite the people in the short-lived "Commonwealth of Independent States." He wisely refused. The Russians are no better than the Germans they despised for so many years.
@Gazzara5 Why do you think Nicholas II deserved to die ? He served his country well for over 20 years as Tsar. He was a man dedicated to the well being of his subjects. No leader of Russia since him, has been as commited to the well being of Russia than he. What justification was there for killing this dedicated patriot ?
@ImperialRussianGuard He was a tyrant who authorized the hangings of many so-called "political criminals" while sparing murderers. He blundered into the diastrous war with Japan and WWI, which he led stupidly, costing many Russian lives. He kept Russia in the Dark Ages, and failed to send his wife and kids away when there was still time. Do you need any more?
Nicholas II had every right to execute active members of radical left wing terrorist groups. These people where attacking government officials and instilling fear in the general populace. It was his duty as Tsar to stop such unacceptable lawless behavior. In the war with Japan, the Japanese lost twice as many men as the Russians. A tactical military victory could have been achieved if Sakhalin was sacrificed. Before February 1917 Russia on the verge of military triumph.
Tsarist Russia was in the Dark ages ? So the country which first published theories on rocket science was in the " dark ages" ? Nicholas II's reign is famous for its great advances in science and art. If anything, our era of democracy could be better described as in the " dark ages" than tsarist Russia could. You are aware that he risked his life in order to reach his wife and children? As a result he was captured and forced to abdicate.
@ImperialRussianGuard It is a slogan because it is true. The days of absolute monarchy were over, and he should have known that. Had he built schools, hospitals, roads, power stations, and universities, instituted land reform, and avoided useless wars, his line might be alive today, enjoying the luxury and privileges the royal families of Great Britain and Scandanavia do. His wife and children died because he didn't even have the brains to send them away when he had the chance. He was a fool.
@Gazzara5 Alas he did all those things. He passed numerous education reforms, most notably the one in 1908. Because of this by 1914 3/4 of all Russian children were recieving an education, though some statistics put as high as 91%. Under Nicholas II the railway network grew 57%. Between 1906 and 1917 a great deal of change had been made in land reform. Nicholas II seeked to avoid wars, alas they were declared against Russia.
that father grigori/rasputin character is not Godful but a black magic sorceror. YUCK. probably did not actually die but flits about the planet and causes aditional trouble and disruption. when he is he actually leaving for good? should have happened by now. too many similar morons catering to his brand of "fun" and "miracles"....
this story makes me cry. I have alwayse felt close to these holy passion barers for the Faith. I say my prayers every morning and night before an icon of the Romanov family. may their memory be eternal, and may they pray for us all! *makes sign of cross*.
Why you use down syndrome to push muss murder button? On art of Turner british respect down syndrome like princess. This people cant make decisions about mass murder and I am from Poland and I know they still in power!
Some people need to stop whining about ''murdered children''. They were not murdered children but executed princes and princesses. Along with the title, and all the crap about ''divine right to rule forever'', one day justice will come, and if one accepts that he is a ruler just by successing his ancestors crown, he should be ready at any time to take responsibility not only for his actions, but for the actions of the whole system that led him be a monarch just because he was a Romanov.
Maybe the Tsar and Tsarina should have suffered reprimand from the secret police maybe the Divine right of kings should come with responsibility and call to duty no man is exempt from concience.I understand it was the Tsarina's incompetance that ruined the railroad no I do not condone murder but how long before it becomes unavoidable how can you ignore the problems for so long?
People die and are murdered everyday, because they have a title their death is more tragic? Countless other families have been murdered, children are murdered all the time, I don't see what makes this so special, "royalty" is a make believe phony concept to make it appear that it is the natural order that others should rule you.
HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, supplied DNA samples for cross-matching with the remains of his great-aunt, the last Tsarina. In refuting the ridiculous suggestions that the bones found near Ekaterinburg are not those of the Imperial Family, a wit has said, "One has therefore to ask oneself how many previously unknown relatives of Prince Philip are buried in the woods surrounding Ekaterinburg!" Surely, enough said, even for that imperial dumpling, the Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna?
The gentleman at 3:39 (Mr. Pyotr Multatuli) wants the Russian government to condemn the slaughter. But realistically, there's not much anyone can do now in so far as punishing the perpetrators - which he seems to imply we should do! Yurovsky (the head executioner) has been dead for over 70 years. And it's a safe bet that everyone involved in the Bolshevik Revolution has since passed on. The best thing is to eulogize the Czar's memory and make sure history is not denied.
Well alot of respected writers/historians were convinced that the investigator at the time, Sokolov, was wrong in his accounts that all the family were murdered. As strong rumours of the women being taken to Perm were still being thrown around months after the execution of Nicholas. And negotiations were being made between Germany and Russia for the safe return of Alexandra and the children. I wonder why Alexei and one of his sisters were buried so far away from the others though??
this is so confusing, they said that they found prince Alexei and grand duchess Maria so they claim that the mystery is solved but in an article i found it said that when the scientist came looking for the bones they only found 9 but at the massacre itself they were 12 people now they are saying they found Alexei and Maria so that makes 11 people, so who's the other person that is not yet found??
yea, it still bugs me that there's still no 100% confirmation if the female body found with Alexei is either Maria or Anastasia. from what i had heard, they thought the missing body was the youngest daughter because they determined that Anastasia was the shortest of the girls (around 5''3 i think) at the time of her death, and after measuring the bodies of the 3 smallest female skeletons, they determined they belonged to the 3 oldest daughters, meaning they were too tall to be Anastasia
In the cathedral itself, the grave of Maria is the one lacking the "laid to rest here" bit on the stone. So in Russia, they consider Maria the one found with Alexei. Though why they STILL haven't put Alexei and Maria to rest there even though DNA testing is done is beyond me.
You know what whould be really cool? If they could make human clones out of the remains! So we can acually get to see the Romanovs! That would be really cool!
I doubt it as there is a lot of social problems in Russia now that they have changed from communist to free-market/capitalist. So, I think Russia has more to clean from this 90+ period to be concerned with bringing back a monarchy. Perhaps later in the future they may consider it.
*this was a horrible thing! the children were not at fault for their parents mistakes. Has anyone herad of the new theory about why Alexey and Maria were found apart? SUpposibly because some of the men present raped the dead body of these two after their death, i think it is disgusting to just think about it but there are people out there that practice these nasty kind of stuff, so i dont know to beleive it or not*
oviously the bolshevik govrement ordered the death of the czar and his family they had a taste of power thats why they eliminated all the treats to take that power away from them.
long live the romanovs. HAIL, to the head of the imperial house, HIH Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna WHOSE fighting for her relatives rehabilitation!
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These guys are overlooking the reasons why the Bolsheviks killed the family in the first place. Yes it was political, but Lenin wasn't an idiot. He had to kill the family for reasonable fear that Nicolas was going to simply gain power again.
They did what they had to do. The Romanovs would've done the same.
@lyden2006 There were still royalists, if the bloodline did not end then they would have risen to power and everything the proletariats worked for would be gone and they would be forced into slavery again. Don't be fooled, the Tsar and all his family deserved to die.
@promdawg I am not knowledegable about that period, but didn't russia still immense and widespread poverty after that? it was like everyone was proletariats...I mean the government weren't, but then that is a little ironic.
partially because our new government wants to put the horrors of Bolshevism behind us and re-enstate the Imperial ideology. Plus Tsar Nicholas II have all been canonized in the Orthodox Church.
Actually, they've long since got away with it. The Czars remaining extended family relinquished their power from what I've heard. So it is no longer of onsequence.
That is what I've heard to... pay attention to Tsar Alexander and the bombing.. there is something to that to... but it would be the Zionist... only them...
but i think this is just total torture.what wrong have they done?the romanovs may have been killed for political reasons but 5 innocent children were involve in this what harm can a mere little boy and 4 young ladies do i agree that this death sentence is unfair.
and of course queen alexandra is innocent too.
may nicolas,alexandra,olga,titania,maria,anastasia and aleksy rest in peace.
Your probably right, but think of how great it would be if she had survived and had children of her own. If the Czars family hadn't already gave up the throne maybe then justice would have a chance..
Nonsense! Those are not the remains! The Russian Orthodox Church knows they are not! This is one of the greatest scandals of the 20th and 21st Century.
1toscany 6 months ago
Wow
stonethugmusic 7 months ago
Nicholas II may have deserved to die, but not the kids. There's always someone left in the line of succession. He has great-grand nephews alive today. One was offered the throne as a figurehead to unite the people in the short-lived "Commonwealth of Independent States." He wisely refused. The Russians are no better than the Germans they despised for so many years.
Gazzara5 8 months ago
@Gazzara5 Why do you think Nicholas II deserved to die ? He served his country well for over 20 years as Tsar. He was a man dedicated to the well being of his subjects. No leader of Russia since him, has been as commited to the well being of Russia than he. What justification was there for killing this dedicated patriot ?
ImperialRussianGuard 7 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard He was a tyrant who authorized the hangings of many so-called "political criminals" while sparing murderers. He blundered into the diastrous war with Japan and WWI, which he led stupidly, costing many Russian lives. He kept Russia in the Dark Ages, and failed to send his wife and kids away when there was still time. Do you need any more?
Gazzara5 7 months ago
Nicholas II had every right to execute active members of radical left wing terrorist groups. These people where attacking government officials and instilling fear in the general populace. It was his duty as Tsar to stop such unacceptable lawless behavior. In the war with Japan, the Japanese lost twice as many men as the Russians. A tactical military victory could have been achieved if Sakhalin was sacrificed. Before February 1917 Russia on the verge of military triumph.
ImperialRussianGuard 7 months ago
Tsarist Russia was in the Dark ages ? So the country which first published theories on rocket science was in the " dark ages" ? Nicholas II's reign is famous for its great advances in science and art. If anything, our era of democracy could be better described as in the " dark ages" than tsarist Russia could. You are aware that he risked his life in order to reach his wife and children? As a result he was captured and forced to abdicate.
ImperialRussianGuard 7 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard Sic Semper Tyrannus
Gazzara5 7 months ago
@Gazzara5 You know that you are wrong when your only counter argument is a slogan.
ImperialRussianGuard 7 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard It is a slogan because it is true. The days of absolute monarchy were over, and he should have known that. Had he built schools, hospitals, roads, power stations, and universities, instituted land reform, and avoided useless wars, his line might be alive today, enjoying the luxury and privileges the royal families of Great Britain and Scandanavia do. His wife and children died because he didn't even have the brains to send them away when he had the chance. He was a fool.
Gazzara5 7 months ago
@Gazzara5 Alas he did all those things. He passed numerous education reforms, most notably the one in 1908. Because of this by 1914 3/4 of all Russian children were recieving an education, though some statistics put as high as 91%. Under Nicholas II the railway network grew 57%. Between 1906 and 1917 a great deal of change had been made in land reform. Nicholas II seeked to avoid wars, alas they were declared against Russia.
ImperialRussianGuard 7 months ago
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that father grigori/rasputin character is not Godful but a black magic sorceror. YUCK. probably did not actually die but flits about the planet and causes aditional trouble and disruption. when he is he actually leaving for good? should have happened by now. too many similar morons catering to his brand of "fun" and "miracles"....
deritpeehs 1 year ago
Another cover up.
GeorgiaSnowJan2011 1 year ago
this story makes me cry. I have alwayse felt close to these holy passion barers for the Faith. I say my prayers every morning and night before an icon of the Romanov family. may their memory be eternal, and may they pray for us all! *makes sign of cross*.
tmh726 1 year ago
what about Anastasia?
Indigos8rboi 1 year ago
@Indigos8rboi
It is considered to be, what exactly her remains have been found out in 90. And now have found Maria.
HHHPPP8 1 year ago
Why you use down syndrome to push muss murder button? On art of Turner british respect down syndrome like princess. This people cant make decisions about mass murder and I am from Poland and I know they still in power!
MyPLAU 1 year ago
Some people need to stop whining about ''murdered children''. They were not murdered children but executed princes and princesses. Along with the title, and all the crap about ''divine right to rule forever'', one day justice will come, and if one accepts that he is a ruler just by successing his ancestors crown, he should be ready at any time to take responsibility not only for his actions, but for the actions of the whole system that led him be a monarch just because he was a Romanov.
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tonymas004 1 year ago
The execution of the Romonovs was a great day, it showed that the Proletariats won't be pushed around by royalty any longer.
promdawg 1 year ago
@promdawg The response of a typical uncivilized savage freak...
JiminPalmSprings 1 year ago
This whole fucking family deserved it! Antisemitic assholes got executed by Jews. Revenge is sweet!
beatlefied70 1 year ago
No one deserves this type of treatment! RIP to the entire Romanov Family
MissChrystalline 1 year ago
Maybe the Tsar and Tsarina should have suffered reprimand from the secret police maybe the Divine right of kings should come with responsibility and call to duty no man is exempt from concience.I understand it was the Tsarina's incompetance that ruined the railroad no I do not condone murder but how long before it becomes unavoidable how can you ignore the problems for so long?
ToomuchBTUstoday 1 year ago
People die and are murdered everyday, because they have a title their death is more tragic? Countless other families have been murdered, children are murdered all the time, I don't see what makes this so special, "royalty" is a make believe phony concept to make it appear that it is the natural order that others should rule you.
888archangel 1 year ago
HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, supplied DNA samples for cross-matching with the remains of his great-aunt, the last Tsarina. In refuting the ridiculous suggestions that the bones found near Ekaterinburg are not those of the Imperial Family, a wit has said, "One has therefore to ask oneself how many previously unknown relatives of Prince Philip are buried in the woods surrounding Ekaterinburg!" Surely, enough said, even for that imperial dumpling, the Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna?
zimnaya 1 year ago
The gentleman at 3:39 (Mr. Pyotr Multatuli) wants the Russian government to condemn the slaughter. But realistically, there's not much anyone can do now in so far as punishing the perpetrators - which he seems to imply we should do! Yurovsky (the head executioner) has been dead for over 70 years. And it's a safe bet that everyone involved in the Bolshevik Revolution has since passed on. The best thing is to eulogize the Czar's memory and make sure history is not denied.
frtw4428 1 year ago
Sokolov was ordered to "stage" the Imperial Family's murder! This did not happen...This is one of the biggest charades ever presented to the world!
1toscany 1 year ago
Those bones get around, don't they?!
tepporocks 2 years ago
Well alot of respected writers/historians were convinced that the investigator at the time, Sokolov, was wrong in his accounts that all the family were murdered. As strong rumours of the women being taken to Perm were still being thrown around months after the execution of Nicholas. And negotiations were being made between Germany and Russia for the safe return of Alexandra and the children. I wonder why Alexei and one of his sisters were buried so far away from the others though??
HayleyLFC85 2 years ago
The Bolshevicks were mainly jews ... The tsar fought against the banking elite in russia
taxiquoter 2 years ago
this is so confusing, they said that they found prince Alexei and grand duchess Maria so they claim that the mystery is solved but in an article i found it said that when the scientist came looking for the bones they only found 9 but at the massacre itself they were 12 people now they are saying they found Alexei and Maria so that makes 11 people, so who's the other person that is not yet found??
yonexsrule 2 years ago
yea, it still bugs me that there's still no 100% confirmation if the female body found with Alexei is either Maria or Anastasia. from what i had heard, they thought the missing body was the youngest daughter because they determined that Anastasia was the shortest of the girls (around 5''3 i think) at the time of her death, and after measuring the bodies of the 3 smallest female skeletons, they determined they belonged to the 3 oldest daughters, meaning they were too tall to be Anastasia
CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN 2 years ago
In the cathedral itself, the grave of Maria is the one lacking the "laid to rest here" bit on the stone. So in Russia, they consider Maria the one found with Alexei. Though why they STILL haven't put Alexei and Maria to rest there even though DNA testing is done is beyond me.
RomanovMartyrs 2 years ago
You know what whould be really cool? If they could make human clones out of the remains! So we can acually get to see the Romanovs! That would be really cool!
sk8ergirl3784 2 years ago
In Russia is there any opinion in restoring the Romanovs as a Constitutional Monarchy like Canada or Austrailia?
Or does the long arm of history remember some ill feelings?
jmstowe 2 years ago
There will never be a monarchy in Russia.
PeterFirthFan 2 years ago
Never is a long time.
DonMeaker 2 years ago
There never will.
PeterFirthFan 2 years ago
I doubt it as there is a lot of social problems in Russia now that they have changed from communist to free-market/capitalist. So, I think Russia has more to clean from this 90+ period to be concerned with bringing back a monarchy. Perhaps later in the future they may consider it.
vadess40 2 years ago
so its anastassia or maria???!! im blurred!! still not confirmed yet! even read the DNA procudures, still dont know if its maria or anastassia...
underlastride 2 years ago
i thought anastacia and her brother were the missing bodys? not maria's??????
dogluver1011 2 years ago
there was a controversy between weather it was maria or anastasia. in my opinion it could have been either one, since they had the same DNA
MissAlexSmith007 2 years ago
@dogluver1011 It's disputed. the russian scientists say it was maria, the american scientists say it was anastasia.
pixelated111 1 year ago
DNA tests are not always carried out properly be wary of these so called results.
cranic4444 2 years ago
I may be Catholic, but I would do the sign of the cross to Nicholas and his family.
KaiUchiha15 2 years ago 8
@KaiUchiha15 what do you mean by "do the Sign"
johnathanjericho 1 year ago
Holy Martyred Tsarevich Alexei, pray to God for us!
Holy Martyred Great Princess Maria, pray to God for us!
I wonder what will happen to the relics of these two children now...
ItsAllAboutNash 2 years ago
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Tzar and his family were killed by Zionists-jews. All organizers and executors were of jewish origination.
Alexiytag 2 years ago
No one person was Trotsky, how many were christian i wonder?
laurenlfc48 2 years ago
that is the right answer alex.people can agree or disagree,but the truth is very clear.
dule140 2 years ago
the descendent czar is alive.
aleksrei 3 years ago
*this was a horrible thing! the children were not at fault for their parents mistakes. Has anyone herad of the new theory about why Alexey and Maria were found apart? SUpposibly because some of the men present raped the dead body of these two after their death, i think it is disgusting to just think about it but there are people out there that practice these nasty kind of stuff, so i dont know to beleive it or not*
MaPaCha 3 years ago 2
@MaPaCha where did you hear this?
pixelated111 1 year ago
so sad they did not desurve that am i reate juts kill 1 or thrat them and meybe nicolas and hese family sould have lived there lives fuly.:(
goodmd1242 3 years ago
I've got to see the Romanov burial!
longman718 3 years ago 2
oviously the bolshevik govrement ordered the death of the czar and his family they had a taste of power thats why they eliminated all the treats to take that power away from them.
long live the romanovs. HAIL, to the head of the imperial house, HIH Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna WHOSE fighting for her relatives rehabilitation!
Rockafelluh 3 years ago
people people people, this is all history!
EVERYONE made mistakes, it was war, people were hungry for power so they did ugly and faithless things!
so we should learn from them to prevent this from ever happening again!
FallenLovesX 3 years ago
It is happening again..
lyden2006 3 years ago
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These guys are overlooking the reasons why the Bolsheviks killed the family in the first place. Yes it was political, but Lenin wasn't an idiot. He had to kill the family for reasonable fear that Nicolas was going to simply gain power again.
They did what they had to do. The Romanovs would've done the same.
WeaponThatFeedsCuts 3 years ago
I DO AGREE...
Emyousmusa 3 years ago
WeaponThatFeedsCuts agree
Blanchefleur7 3 years ago
You agree with a someone willing to kill children to lead your country. What a sad state of affairs you've found yourself in. =(
lyden2006 3 years ago 21
@lyden2006 There were still royalists, if the bloodline did not end then they would have risen to power and everything the proletariats worked for would be gone and they would be forced into slavery again. Don't be fooled, the Tsar and all his family deserved to die.
promdawg 1 year ago
@promdawg I am not knowledegable about that period, but didn't russia still immense and widespread poverty after that? it was like everyone was proletariats...I mean the government weren't, but then that is a little ironic.
pixelated111 1 year ago
@promdawg Sorry, I retract my comment. I am wrong about that
pixelated111 1 year ago
This is amazing, that the news would speak so openly about such a topic. It is good to hear.
hornwell 3 years ago
partially because our new government wants to put the horrors of Bolshevism behind us and re-enstate the Imperial ideology. Plus Tsar Nicholas II have all been canonized in the Orthodox Church.
lynx29 3 years ago
Actually, they've long since got away with it. The Czars remaining extended family relinquished their power from what I've heard. So it is no longer of onsequence.
Sadly..
lyden2006 3 years ago
That is what I've heard to... pay attention to Tsar Alexander and the bombing.. there is something to that to... but it would be the Zionist... only them...
Emyousmusa 3 years ago
90% of the Bolshevik movement was Jewish, and was a predominately Jewish movement. Rumor has it though, 1 girl named Anastasia may have survived..
lyden2006 3 years ago
everybody knows that.......
but i think this is just total torture.what wrong have they done?the romanovs may have been killed for political reasons but 5 innocent children were involve in this what harm can a mere little boy and 4 young ladies do i agree that this death sentence is unfair.
and of course queen alexandra is innocent too.
may nicolas,alexandra,olga,titania,maria,anastasia and aleksy rest in peace.
diessemia 3 years ago
It's just a rumour, never proved...Had she survived, she would be hiding all her life, or until the perestroika came, to my mind...
DollyBluesman 3 years ago
Your probably right, but think of how great it would be if she had survived and had children of her own. If the Czars family hadn't already gave up the throne maybe then justice would have a chance..
lyden2006 3 years ago