Enlivening the experience

[jamesejudy3]

Blah, too many words

[Brahmanfire]

Dunno... I think perhaps you may be inadvertently pointing your students towards seeking an experience... rather than innocently allowing their awareness to come to rest in the Ascendant . INNOCENCE is everything. The Techniques are Everything, until your student becomes aware of the Ascendant and can choose for That. Lead them not into the temptation of seeking a specific experience, rather allow them to discover innocently what has been there all along.

[jamesejudy3]

@Brahmanfire

yeah, not so much. For a long time I subconsciously avoided any experience that I had, ESPECIALLY the super-mundane experiences. It was almost a year before someone asked me what I was experiencing between the attitudes, then my practice really took off, many of my students have also thought this was "the right way", to not pay attention to "experiences" but ONLY the AA's.

FOCUS ON THE FINGER AND YOU MISS ALL THE HEAVENLY GLORY!

Some are ready to hear Vish's mssg ^_^

[Brahmanfire]

@jamesejudy3 The simplicity of Ascension is that there isn't any 'right' or 'wrong' way in the context of a student practicing Ascension innocently, nor is there for the teacher of Ascension so long as they convey the Teaching innocently. There is no pre-emptive suggestion in either 'paying attention to experience' or 'not paying attention to experience', just simply that after effortlessly introducing the technique you allow whatever happens to happen, and when once again become...

[Brahmanfire]

@jamesejudy3 ... becoming aware of thoughts moving through the mind we then gently reintroduce the Ascension Attitude. I do not recall the Black Book suggesting that teachers point the student towards fixating their awareness upon the techniques let alone any particular experience that may arise. The degree of subtlety with which the mind can grasp upon a particular thought or suggestion or expectation is far ranging from student to student. Then also the 'experience' of the Ascendant can..

[Brahmanfire]

@jamesejudy3 ... be projected by the mind and pasted over the present moment whereupon one thinks the Ascendant rather than actually surrendering the intellect so that Awareness can settle into the present moment innocently and become the Ascendant. one is the memory of an experience, One is the experience itself unfettered by any thing at all. As a teacher having practiced and attuned your nervous system to hold Ascendant Consciousness perpetually your experience of 'paying attention' ....

[Brahmanfire]

@jamesejudy3 ... to the space between is subtly yet fundametally different in that your Ascendant Consciousness is carved much deeper in your awareness than the average Ascenders. You're no longer "paying" anything attention wise but rather you ARE attention upon the Ascendant. As a Teacher even without an A.A. , simply intending or in this case 'paying' in the direction of the Ascendant finds your awareness THERE, with no trying or controlling or effort beyond that. A First sphere student...

[Brahmanfire]

@jamesejudy3 ... or casual ascender is not experiencing the degree of effortlessness or ease which you are in terms of marrying their awareness to the Ascendant and recognizing it's Infinitely everlasting presence in those spaces between thought or ascension attitudes. It is that their nervous system is not as acutely tuned into and retaining Ascendant Consciousness the same as yours is. Suggestions for them to pay attention to the space or experience of the space may find their awareness...

[Brahmanfire]

@jamesejudy3 .. slipping into and identifying with something of a nothingness or the experience of such. And given the minds voracious appetite for identifying and seeking it is easy for it to forsake the present moments innocence brought about naturally by the Ascension Attitude, and instead begin projecting into their practice the idea, attachment to, or memory of an experience of the space between thoughts. For qualified teachers or very advanced ascenders this can be explored innocently..

[Brahmanfire]

@jamesejudy3 ... and with clarity having established an anchor in Truth. Taking this experience and inadvertently suggesting to put the cart before the horse in relation to the evolution of consciousness is a common mistake amongst teachers of Ascension and I most certainly have witnessed myself unconsciously do it with students before. A Teacher does not point a teacher directly to Union unless they are evolved enough to fully appreciate what is being shown them...

[Brahmanfire]

@jamesejudy3 .... the same goes for a student experiencing waking state consciousness and the evolutionary unfoldment of Ascendant Consciousness within their awareness.... Even though the Truth and the Ascendant is there and you are not necessarily pointing them in the wrong direction, the key is in recognizing that their mind might take your well intentioned suggestion and point them in a direction which impedes their growth or slows it down. Subtle indeed may be the discrepancy I speak of...

[Brahmanfire]

@jamesejudy3 ... but indeed relevant to the constantly evolving teacher who aspires to perfect the Art of teaching the Art of Ascension. :)

~Jai Isham Ishvaram - keep up the good work my friend.

[jamesejudy3]

@Brahmanfire

& I wonder how folks' "innocence" will go after reading your wall of posts? LOL

"Don't ever try to place your awareness anywhere, You might not be innocent anymore!" Hahahahaha

[Brahmanfire]

@jamesejudy3 Enjoy your Ascension.

[bluelotusmama]

This is such a clear and important reminder! Thank you! -Rodasi