Enlarged O’s birth cert. has 17 exact matches. 2 t's, are same box 5a "August" and box 12a "Student." 2 l (small L), box 6a "Honolulu" and box 7a "Honolulu." 2 more l's are the same, box 6c "Hospital" and l box 7c "Honolulu" 2 c's , box 11 "Africa" and box 14 "Caucusian" 2 B's , box 1c "OBAMA" and box 8 "OBAMA" 2 u's , box 12a "Student" and box 6b "Oahu" 3 more u's , box 7a "Honolulu" is the same as, box 7b "Oahu" and also box 7c "Honolulu" 2 i 's box 11 "Africa" and as box 14 "Caucasian"
This is the funniest part, 43% and 58% is 101% How fuckin stupid do you have to be to fuck that up. Oh wait maybe because its Obama than the scale of percentages has changed for some damn reason.
i think the guy is and idiot personally, but just cant bring myself to grab a straw to big. look at the power of the clinton political machine, dont you think they would of found out during the primaries. come on, beat the guy up for what he is, A FOOL, not for his birth certificate
Kapiolani Maternity & Gyn. Hospital. According to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children's Hospital. According to the web site the name didn't change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children's Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birthcertificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn't created until 1978?
@BayAreaBallerz21 and if you believe after 2-1/2 years he finally released his birth Certificate out of the kindness of his heart you're a Fuckin' idiot you incompetent piece of shit. He's the worst President in History. I hope his plane crashes into the side of a mountain in a ball of fire. He's terrible and you can Kiss my ass....
President Obama is a great President and an honest man, I'm so tired and so sick of the lies out there, Obama did show his birth certificate over 2 years ago. I just can't imagine if the right wing demanding Bush to show his birth certificate over and over again and still think they all not the real one! The hate and the racist people in this country that try hard to created issues for our President just so sad for our great country!
Ok dickheads..even though its out!!...Lets just admit the birther was racist. I forget who said it but it was an excellent point, This birther thing has nothing "with what Obama has done but rather who he is"
This is fake look at the day it was stamped on the 25 on all his records he released there are no creases in the papers did his parents frame his birth certifcate or what he bribed officals into making a fake document why he sealed his birth certificate in the first place
@Jeremy0028 just shut the fuck up. Nobody else cares. It done with. The long form is released if you just read the latest news. Ask any other loony right wing, O'Reilly and even evil Ann Coulter. NO ONE CARES
I love how they don't even get the key issues right @ 0:55 no you do not have to be born in this country....you have to be born an American citizen....how bought we put a poll up: how many Americans think that McCain was born in America....cuz he wans't.
"I choose not to show the long-form--and end this ridiculous debate--because I have better things to do!"
I'd show it! Its serial number would numerically coincide with certificates of the time period which would validate authenticity.
However, there is no long-form. That's the reason for the obfuscation! They can't insert a fake long-form (to cover the lie) because they would have to show its serial number, e.g., A121, A122, A123, A123, A124,--two A123s?! Shenanigans!
@Blastbarnacle Yes you are correct. And if Obama's BC was real, all he would have to do is say the words "get my BC" and his assistants would be able to have it in no time. If he had a BC that is.. So to all you puppet lying, brown nosed, dirty kneed trolls.. Know that God watches and listens to the lying and manipulating you do. I pray for you all to find Christ sooner than later. Yes, that especially means you Chris Mathews..
If ( they) didn't want this to be a issue sheeple wouldn't even know about it or the issue would not even exist. Turn your tv off, and sit there and look at it for an hour. It will help you understand how you are controled. (they) cannot control you if (they) can't comunicate with you.
Anyone who believes that Obama was not born in the State of Hawaii is ignoring the facts. The State says that he was, so he was. So the question only remains of why Obama will not release a copy of the actual form. There could be two reasons. Either there is something on the document that he does not want us to know about, or he likes to make the birthers and the near-birthers look like crazy people. I would lean towards it being the former. But I do not know what it could be.
@jbranstetter04 Funny how so many of the Christian Right are only now so in dire need of "proof" that Obama was oirn here. Why don't they just take it on faith that he was?? With all the evidence out there, and they still need absolute proof.
Do they EVER ask for proof of anything when they go to Church every Sunday?? No...all faith...with absolutely NO evidence whatsoever.
@smuffjules Faith and showing that you are eligible to run for a public office are two different things. One you can factually check on while the other you cannot. I could be considered as being on the Christian right, although I'm not politically active as far as those issues are concerned, but I believe it when the state of Hawaii says that he was born there; I have no reason not to. I don't think your analogy is accurate. We agree, he has shown what Hawaii gave him and that should be enough.
The media is bought off Americans know the truth and we are very smart why they never let people with teal evidence that he is not American born on tv they always put on Obama yes men
So now 43 % of the nation is stupid, what do this people think we are. Abercrombie stated he can't find the dam birth certificate he has egg on his face just google it mike Evans abercrombie's friend said it on live radio google or YouTube that too ! Barry soetoro was born on kenya if not all he has to do is show the long form birth certificate but their is none!
..Cut the Bullshit and have the President just show his original Birth Certificate and this would eliminate all the controversy and make it easy for him to have a chance at a second term. All these journalist are quoting the percentage of people that believe he is or isn't !!! this is a damn joke and a smoke screen, just show the long form original Birth Certificate and that will be the end of the bullshit. Theres a reason why OBAMA spent a million dollars to keep his records sealed !!!!!
@prooc Im stupid? What the hell do you think "live birth" means? He was abducted by aliens? Thats what birth certificates say. People just tell you to think things, and you just do it automatically, dont you.
How could you not know a "certificate of birth" is a Birth Certificate. my god....
@prooc Since I was born in the UK...I'd very much like to get a copy of a certificate of live birth from the state of Hawaii showing that I was born there. How do I get one??
@prooc Since I was born in the UK...I'd very much like to get a copy of a certificate of live birth from the state of Hawaii showing that I was born there. How do I get one?? Born in Hawaii that is.
@guitarhaus "Theres a reason why OBAMA spent a million dollars to keep his records sealed !!!!!" Hold on here it is again: "Theres a reason why OBAMA spent a million dollars to keep his records sealed !!!!!"
Put some ice on that cheek of yours, because you got dick whipped real proper.
58% + 23% + 20% = 101% What are you are trying to tell me some. Who is the extra 1% ? Can I beleave anything you are saying?
I want to believe, but you know if Obama is not a U.S. Born citizen, we have been without a president since the election. Also everything that Obama has done at president is nullified and void. Then I wonder if they ever prove that he is an illegal alien, he would ever be arrested for fraud? So is he or is he not, our legal president?
@truthandharmonycom But Obama IS a natural born citizen, the "Republican" governor of HI certified he was born there, Congress certified his votes without objections and he was sworn in TWICE by a SCOTUS judge. So YES he is our eligible president and all that he has done is not going to be nullified and void. Birthers have been saying this nonesense since 2008, Wake up! Is 2011 stop the bs.
According to the governor of Hawaii, who knew Obama's parents growing up, he DID NOT see him as a baby as this man says. He only saw him when he was 5 or 6 years old. He was in Kenya before that
This is ridiculous. You idiots can keep making excuses and defending this imposter. All he has to do is show the Birth Certificate like any of us have to do. Then it will go away.
I love the fact that they invite two Obamatons to Prove why its just crazy talk. Yeah, the Kenyan PM is a liar, his grandmother is a liar, his school pictures from indonesia are lies, but some nearly blank cert is the truth. Sure. He has more important things to do , like go 180 on every single platform promise he made before he entered into office. Kudos.
In his memoir, BO wrote that his late father's personal effects in his possession included BO's birth certificate and childhood vaccination records. I wonder why BO never showed that 1961 BC to the media. There must be something on it that is embarrassing.
Obama has met the VERY MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS on this issue, just like his performance on so many other issues. The documentation provided by Obama is satisfactory to obtain a passport. The only problem, Obama is NOT trying to get a passport. He SHOULD be trying to satisfy 43% of the electorate. IT'S OBAMA'S PROBLEM, NOT MINE. I wouldn't even consider voting for the guy until he produces a birth certificate signed by the delivering physician.
JMO, but I believe we've been led down a false trail. That is why it's not democrats that are talking about 0bama's birth cert. First Chris Matthews, now the gov. of Hawaii.
0bama was born in Hawaii, USA. However, I would like to see which race block is checked on his birth certificate. I predict it says "white."
As long as people continue to talk about where 0bama was born, they aren't talking about which race square is filled in on his cert. Let's see how this plays out!
really I think matthews wants to see it as well. I think he is having seconds doubts. But, one thing they did not address is why obama has spent over 1 million dollars in legal fee for his attorneys to keep it from being exposed. WHY! Does anybody have any answers to why obama keeps spending money keep the birthers from making him reveal his complete long form and real birth certificate?
The black guy can only speculate about what the "birthers" will do IF they release the real document. I think "birthers" would get less attention if they did release the real deal so why not just ask for it?
He's too busy but, he's vacationing Hawaii? Maybe he could have left the beach a little early and visited the state offices to request a copy. I don't believe this is "The Right" at work here. I think this is Hilary planting some seed's of doubt for 2012. Her supporters were the Original birthers and she wants to live in the white house again.
Quote: "Obama was born in Hawaii,." I respect this opinion. If this opinion is based on fact it is certainly an important belief. Problem: Any person who refuses to provivde all the available evidence to help support the facts -- to prove the facts -- is disrespectful to both those who believe Obama was born in Hawaii and those who cannot tell due to the hidden evidence. Why are 100% of the voters being treated this way. This is Bush-like hubris.
Let's place a plaque on the hospital where Obama was born. And let's have the press interview the medical staff that was present when he was born. THAT would solve the issue.
This is a false trail. They aren't hiding a more in-depth version of 0bama's birth certificate because he wasn't born in the US; he was born in Hawaii. But what they are hiding is the fact that 0bama is listed as white on his birth certificate. People are asking the wrong questions and that's why there's no traction on this story.
Kenyan Obama (Barry Soetoro) answers to his white benefactors: David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger & Zbignew Brzezinski—all of whom work tirelessly to further the eugenics'-based programs of the Anglo-American Alliance (inaccurately known as the New World Order).
********You cannot use the certificate of live birth or the soft copy version of your birth certificate to join the CIA,FBI, and other sensitive governmental positions. Why is Obama given an exemption?******************
EVERYONE!!!! You cannot join the FBI or CIA with the soft copy version Obama has presented as his proof of birth. It's that simple. If you were born in Hawaii and have this as your proof GREAT!!!! The state is not going to send you the original document and you are not our President. I will repeat this for those who just want to move on, YOU CANNOT join the CIA, FBI, and other sensative governmental positions with this document. Why is Obama given an exemption???????????????????????
The more evidence Obama makes public the more evidence his supporters will have to support him. It will only help his side but Obama doesn't so that is very suspicious.
Billandtine, you took the words out of my mouth. Do these dodo's know basic simple math? it reminds me of a Yogism when he said 90% of the game is mental, the other half is physical
bye-david.blogspot.com come to my site and tell me what you think about this topic and how you feel about many other problems we face in the government.
He has more important things to do? Really? It seems like this could all be put to rest very quickly by simply showing the long-form birth certificate and/or perhaps some of the other documentation that Obama refuses to show the public or even a court or judge. That would get rid of this distraction and allow Obama (or Soetoro), his staff, the general public, etc. to focus on "more important things." Also, is Article 2, Section 1 of the US Constitution not an important thing?
You said, "Even if that was true, his father was not a US citizen, so he's still ineligible."
That is not true. He is not, nor ever was a dual citizen, and I'm not even sure that matters. A natural born citizen can hold other citizenships and natural born citizen is the only requirement. Now if you have case law to show otherwise I would love to see it.
Wrong.Spiro's father was Greek not naturalized, he was registered as Alien in the 1920 Census I can send you the link later. Also Arthur & Buchanan's parens were Irish. Look for jus soli principle, The Supreme Court recognizes only 2 citizenships: natural born and naturalized. US grants citizenship to anybody born in US soil, even children of illegal immigrants born here, they can even run for president!
Educate yourself before posting. Read the Constitution.
So Buchanan, Arthur, and many others were ineligible too? How about Elg, Lynch, Wong Kim, (both his parents were Chinese NOT naturalized and he was declared citizen by birth or natural born citizen by the Supreme Court.
Look for the definition of jus soli before posting ignorant comments.
@Iamherelord777 acutally, no. That is not true. Why do you try reading about it some. You are still a natural born citizen, even if one if your parents isnt. If that wasnt true, then ALOT of people are fucked.
Not to pull a sarah palin and make it personal, but MY kid has a foreign mother. Hes not an american? Fuck that, yes he by CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. Hes pretty fucking American, whether you like it or not.
@Iamherelord777 Wrong, As long as the CHILD is born on U.S. soil, they are a naturalized citizen of the United States, AND if you want to play ignorant, his mother was a naturalized citizen regardless of whatever his father was.
@MrClipper23 Obama should not have been allowed to run you have to be a naturalized citizen which means both parents needed to be born in the USA period, Obama is a joke!!!
" you have to be a naturalized citizen which means both parents needed to be born in the USA"
First a naturalized citizen doesn't mean both parents needed to be born in US! It means a person not born here goes through a process called naturalization.
cont. Second Nowhere is indicated that to be natural born and run for president you need 2 citizen parents. I'll give you evidence on that: jus soli . Buchanan and Arthur parents were Irish.
OMG are you in school? Oh well you should go to school and read before posting your stupid and ignorant comment!
Even children of illegal immigrants born here are natural born, parent's citizenship is irrelevant!!
All anyone wants is a BIRTH CERTIFICATE (which is NOT a COLB) that has a signature from the doctor, a signature from a witness, and a state seal that makes the whole thing "official." We want to be able to go to the records and find that the entries are entered where they are supposed to be entered, and everything is on the up and up.
Instead, we get a signing statement, signed on his first day in office, to HIDE that information.
And don't forget, after he shows he was born in the US, I would like to see the documentation where he was re-naturalized after giving up his citizenship at age 6 to attend public school in Indonesia at a time when Indonesia required citizenship to attend their schools and dual citizenship with the US was illegal under their and our law. If he claims he never gave up his citizenship, I would like to see his college records to show if he ever recieved foreign student aid.
You would like to see the documentation where he was re-naturalized after giving up his citizenship at age 6?!
Are you really American? Graduated from HS? A child cannot renounce his citizenship! Not even a parent can renounce his child citizenship! It is a constitutional right! What can anybody expect form a person who writes "recieve" for receive? You are very ignorant your IQ must be very low, I'm pretty sure you voted for Bush twice!
Obama was never an Indonesian citizen. Because he was born in Hawaii (US soil), he could not lose his US citizenship as a child. He would first have to renounce US citizenship and swear allegiance to Indonesia, which he could not do as minor, nor could his parents do for him.
For starters, google: Section 349(a) (5) of the INA
Matthews released an un-used butt wipe. A certificate of live birth can be changed and manipulated. No one has ever seen Obama's long form birth certificate. He put forward an excutive order that sealed all his personal records.
Yet, this is the man who promised the most transparent presidency the country has ever seen, and we're not even allowed to see what his grades were in high school.
If you are referring to Exectutive Order 13489, that pertains to *Presidential Records* or records created AFTER he became President. It does not cover personal records.
Yup, he passed an executive order that seals all his personal records. I thought this was the most transparent president we all were going to see. He's a bold faced liar from top to bottom. How does it not strike you odd that obamas the only president in history that never had to release any of his personal records?
He could bring down the birth movement in one blow. By showing his original birth certificate. But he's not doing so. What does he not want us to see ??
I guess you didnt bother to look at the info I cited.
That executive order DOES NOT COVER PERSONAL RECORDS. It was actually more restrictive under Bush's signing of EO 13233. Obama simply returned it to how it was when Reagan signed EO 12667.
Obama is the only Presidential candidate that made their birth certificate publicly available
It doesnt strike me as odd about his personal records. They're his business. If he wants to make them public, fine. If not, it doesnt bother me.
Of course the birth issue doesn't matter to you, because you got the socalist messiahh you wanted your entire life. Had there been a conservate republican president with a shadowy bith placed you would have raised hell over it.
Moreover how did obama make his birth certificate publicy available if he never relased it? That's my question to you. You really expect me to believe the neo-marxist smack put out by msnbc? No one has ever seen obama's birth certificate.
Your reply is interesting. All I did is give you concrete evidence that what YOU claim about an Executive Order "hiding his personal records" is wrong.
You opted for a personal attack because you dont have any facts to stand on.
I didn't vote for Obama. He is not a deity, hes a guy that ran for President (and won). If you consider him to be a 'messiah', no wonder you have problems.
I'm not a party line thinker at all, but obviously you are.
Personally, I don't think the birth certificate issue is going to get obama thrown out. But it doesn't matter anyway. Obama is gone January 2013. No one's going to re-elect his inexperience and his socialist leanings. It's just unfortunate we had to live to see the day when a non-natural born citizen became President of the United States.
@MrClipper23 These two Obama press agents masquerading as journalists are a disgrace. Clarence Page says Obama is too busy with important matters to have bothered to direct the State of Hawaii to release his original 1961 birth certificate. Does he not know how much money has been paid to Obama's lawyers to defend the miriad number of cases that have been filed in courts around the country by "birthers" seeking to force the production of the original certificate? None of which were necessary.
@MrClipper23 Even Chris Matthews, the king of the liberals and a guy who by his own admission hates the birthers advises Obama to come clean. If Obama has a birth certificate signed by the delivering physician, for goodness sake, produce it. Don't keep the nation in suspense! We are waiting. We are waiting.
Okay, okay, you got me. I fall into the 42% who question the president. Is that wrong?
Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune (it has to be a liberal rag) advises that Obama has provided enough information to get a passport. That's brilliant Clarence, that's brilliant. Take a poll. Are the 42% of non-believers now satisfied?
I love it, Governor Abercrombie cannot find the frauds birth certificate. . . . But none of this really matters to the resistant to truth, whacko, true believers, Obama worshippers such as yourself . . . . now does it?
Jokes on us suckers, HAHA, they don't give a shit what you think, or know or don't know. They did 911 don't you think they could counterfeit a birth certificate!?
These guys are idiots, their percents are off, make the 23 22 and then you will have 100 percent with the 20 and the 58, pay attention you dumb asses!
1. They got to the bottom of nothing. They simply restated everything they have said for two years.
2. Announcements do not prove place of birth or citizenship.
3. Certification of live birth can be faked with as a little as a key stroke by a paid off dept. of records employee. Further, the paper it is printed on can be easily obtained by anyone in power, ie. CIA handlers.
4. Note Mathews sinister grin when he says you can get a job with the CIA based on that certification of live birth.
Good call Trufreedom. For us to assume that there aren't multiple corporate hands up these guys' asses is beyond naive. I'm almost embarrassed that I'm giving these shills a moment of my time. There might be others out there who live in the alternate reality that mainstream media has created who might not have considered alternatives. Chris Matthews is the puppet that the liberal left likes, Hannity is the right's puppet. Phil Berg makes excellent points that should be addressed by a court.
Nut cases and ad hominem still isn't working Matthews and your pathetic ratings are the proof. Both of Obama's parents have had well known ties to the intelligence community. He became an Indonesian citizen and was provided with benefits afforded only to Indonesian citizens when he was adopted by Soetero and changed his name to Barry Soetero. Youtube Michelle saying Kenya is his place of birth. These guys are beyond pathetic and would his crush in a legitimate debate. Just show it already!!!
Obama was never an Indonesian citizen. There are no records that prove Lolo Soetoro adopted him. There are no records that his name was ever legally changed to Soetoro.
Because he was born on US soil, he could not lose his US citizenship as a child. He would first have to renounce US citizenship, which he could not do as a minor. His parents could not do that for him either.
Michelle Obama never said Kenya was his place of birth.
Also how much money did GE who owns MSNBC receive from bailout money!Also why is there no one on this panel with a dissenting voice like Philip Berg who was assistant DA in Pennsylvania!He has multiple law suits against Obama that he is not an American citizen!
Well guys, it shouldn't be a big deal but Obama has made it one. John McCain, who was born in the US section of Panama, showed his birth certificate and we moved on. Obama hasn't done so to date and it's persisted as a topic. To dismiss the controversy by questioning the level of conspiratorial mind that faking birth announcements would require is a joke as well. If given the chance to be a US citizen over a Kenyan citizen what would you or your parents do...
@RandyC0609 Its even less than that. HI vital statistics generates birth announcements to the local media. Iit used to be a public service performed by the papers to get the info from vital statistics and publish the announcements. They did the same with marriages (when you file the marriage license) and obituaries. It was an automated process to get yur name in the paper upon registration of your birth at the HI DoS.
Further, HI registered births from dozens of 3rd world coutries.
How did he go to school with his parents, his dad was in Kenya!Also when Obama moved to Indonesia he gave up his citizenship to become a citizen there,so there is no argument he is not a citizen,why won't he release his school records,why has he spent over $100,000 to keep his birth cetificate sealed!
I'm not a "birther", but my parents put a birth announcement in their hometown paper when my daughter was born. She was born 3000 miles away from their town, but that's what grandparents do sometimes; they share the news of the birth of their grandchild.
BOTH newspapers have been forced to acknowledge that the Department of State's vital statistics office, as a matter of routine, sent out announcements when the birth was registered at the vital statistics office. They also registered births from DOZENS of 3rd world countries as a courtesy in a time when records in those countries were lacking. Grandma registered the birth, and vital statistics notified the paper as a matter of routine.
"They also registered births from DOZENS of 3rd world countries as a courtesy in a time when records in those countries were lacking. Grandma registered the birth"
Do you have any evidence that what you're claiming here is actually true? Cite your source please.
But in Hawaii the birth announcements comes directly from the hospital to the Health Dept it is not a paid announcement made by parents or family. Nice try.
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17exactmatches 5 months ago
This is the funniest part, 43% and 58% is 101% How fuckin stupid do you have to be to fuck that up. Oh wait maybe because its Obama than the scale of percentages has changed for some damn reason.
These fuckin idiots need to learn simple math....
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LogicCheck 10 months ago
@RevolutionaryBG
i think the guy is and idiot personally, but just cant bring myself to grab a straw to big. look at the power of the clinton political machine, dont you think they would of found out during the primaries. come on, beat the guy up for what he is, A FOOL, not for his birth certificate
tommytoo1 10 months ago
to guitarhaus.....you saw it yesterday. Is that enough ? MORON
parkerxjr 10 months ago
You will obey that nigger
wejewsdid911HAHAHA89 10 months ago
Kapiolani Maternity & Gyn. Hospital. According to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children's Hospital. According to the web site the name didn't change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children's Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birthcertificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn't created until 1978?
URAterrorist 10 months ago
@BayAreaBallerz21 and if you believe after 2-1/2 years he finally released his birth Certificate out of the kindness of his heart you're a Fuckin' idiot you incompetent piece of shit. He's the worst President in History. I hope his plane crashes into the side of a mountain in a ball of fire. He's terrible and you can Kiss my ass....
guitarhaus 10 months ago
President Obama is a great President and an honest man, I'm so tired and so sick of the lies out there, Obama did show his birth certificate over 2 years ago. I just can't imagine if the right wing demanding Bush to show his birth certificate over and over again and still think they all not the real one! The hate and the racist people in this country that try hard to created issues for our President just so sad for our great country!
Seasonchange1 10 months ago
@Seasonchange1 oh my lord, you need to pull your head out of your ass. Fuck nearly everything he says is a lie or half truth.
DThompson1985 9 months ago
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FACT: 61 10641 is the serial number on Barak Obama's certificate. It's official now.
FACT: 61 10637 is the serial number of a woman, Susan Nordyke, born one day LATER than Obama, but at the SAME hospital.
Ladies and gentlemen, serial numbers aren't issued and applied in descending order. They're issued in ASCENDING order, for obvious reasons.
This issue is NOT going away any time soon.
Blastbarnacle 10 months ago
Ok dickheads..even though its out!!...Lets just admit the birther was racist. I forget who said it but it was an excellent point, This birther thing has nothing "with what Obama has done but rather who he is"
soxfan0408 10 months ago
This is fake look at the day it was stamped on the 25 on all his records he released there are no creases in the papers did his parents frame his birth certifcate or what he bribed officals into making a fake document why he sealed his birth certificate in the first place
Jeremy0028 10 months ago
@Jeremy0028 just shut the fuck up. Nobody else cares. It done with. The long form is released if you just read the latest news. Ask any other loony right wing, O'Reilly and even evil Ann Coulter. NO ONE CARES
hunkgod 10 months ago
I love how they don't even get the key issues right @ 0:55 no you do not have to be born in this country....you have to be born an American citizen....how bought we put a poll up: how many Americans think that McCain was born in America....cuz he wans't.
akuda88 10 months ago
Boy, I wonder what those dumb bastards say now.. Trump has proven that the birth news paper shit was bogus.. LIARS!!!
kidjr27 10 months ago
"I choose not to show the long-form--and end this ridiculous debate--because I have better things to do!"
I'd show it! Its serial number would numerically coincide with certificates of the time period which would validate authenticity.
However, there is no long-form. That's the reason for the obfuscation! They can't insert a fake long-form (to cover the lie) because they would have to show its serial number, e.g., A121, A122, A123, A123, A124,--two A123s?! Shenanigans!
Blastbarnacle 10 months ago
@Blastbarnacle Yes you are correct. And if Obama's BC was real, all he would have to do is say the words "get my BC" and his assistants would be able to have it in no time. If he had a BC that is.. So to all you puppet lying, brown nosed, dirty kneed trolls.. Know that God watches and listens to the lying and manipulating you do. I pray for you all to find Christ sooner than later. Yes, that especially means you Chris Mathews..
kidjr27 10 months ago
@Blastbarnacle
His long form has been released...
SadegoGG 10 months ago
Clarence Page is so far up Obamies Arse he looks like a second adams apple.
depjim94 10 months ago
If ( they) didn't want this to be a issue sheeple wouldn't even know about it or the issue would not even exist. Turn your tv off, and sit there and look at it for an hour. It will help you understand how you are controled. (they) cannot control you if (they) can't comunicate with you.
jackmcgurn1 10 months ago
Anyone who believes that Obama was not born in the State of Hawaii is ignoring the facts. The State says that he was, so he was. So the question only remains of why Obama will not release a copy of the actual form. There could be two reasons. Either there is something on the document that he does not want us to know about, or he likes to make the birthers and the near-birthers look like crazy people. I would lean towards it being the former. But I do not know what it could be.
jbranstetter04 10 months ago
@jbranstetter04 Funny how so many of the Christian Right are only now so in dire need of "proof" that Obama was oirn here. Why don't they just take it on faith that he was?? With all the evidence out there, and they still need absolute proof.
Do they EVER ask for proof of anything when they go to Church every Sunday?? No...all faith...with absolutely NO evidence whatsoever.
smuffjules 10 months ago
@smuffjules Faith and showing that you are eligible to run for a public office are two different things. One you can factually check on while the other you cannot. I could be considered as being on the Christian right, although I'm not politically active as far as those issues are concerned, but I believe it when the state of Hawaii says that he was born there; I have no reason not to. I don't think your analogy is accurate. We agree, he has shown what Hawaii gave him and that should be enough.
jbranstetter04 10 months ago
Show your darn Birth Certificate you dumb eggplant. US Military should demand to see his birth certificate!!!
ZionIDF 10 months ago
"same as if want to join the CIA?" "ABSOLUTELY!" What idiots. No tingle up the leg now.
sc666666 11 months ago
He is was either a Kenyan or Indonesian! Not an American.
sferris33 11 months ago
@sferris33
Your proof is where?
Obama was born in Hawaii (US) soil. That makes him a citizen at birth jus soli. (right of soil/territory)
His mother was an American, making him also a citizen at birth jus sanguinis (right of blood)
A natural born citizen is simply a citizen at birth.
Kenyan OR Indonesian? Which one? How do you know?
arrrogantlyignorant 11 months ago
@sferris33 where did you get this info?
smuffjules 10 months ago
The media is bought off Americans know the truth and we are very smart why they never let people with teal evidence that he is not American born on tv they always put on Obama yes men
wethepeople1776 1 year ago
So now 43 % of the nation is stupid, what do this people think we are. Abercrombie stated he can't find the dam birth certificate he has egg on his face just google it mike Evans abercrombie's friend said it on live radio google or YouTube that too ! Barry soetoro was born on kenya if not all he has to do is show the long form birth certificate but their is none!
wethepeople1776 1 year ago
Ha! Pls see the following link:
tinyurl . com / 6kq4jo
Notice at the bottom where it says "This copy serves as prima facia evidence of the fact of birth in *ANY* court proceeding."
Millions of Hawaiians use these to prove their citizenship every day.
Now can we stop all the Jim Crow requirement BS 4 the Prez. who won his election fair & square??
lancasterKENT 1 year ago
..Cut the Bullshit and have the President just show his original Birth Certificate and this would eliminate all the controversy and make it easy for him to have a chance at a second term. All these journalist are quoting the percentage of people that believe he is or isn't !!! this is a damn joke and a smoke screen, just show the long form original Birth Certificate and that will be the end of the bullshit. Theres a reason why OBAMA spent a million dollars to keep his records sealed !!!!!
guitarhaus 1 year ago 10
@guitarhaus He has shown his birth certficate. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
grendelee 10 months ago
@grendelee Certificate of live birth, not birth certificate you stupid lying fuck. Quit lying.
prooc 10 months ago
@prooc Im stupid? What the hell do you think "live birth" means? He was abducted by aliens? Thats what birth certificates say. People just tell you to think things, and you just do it automatically, dont you.
How could you not know a "certificate of birth" is a Birth Certificate. my god....
grendelee 10 months ago
@prooc Since I was born in the UK...I'd very much like to get a copy of a certificate of live birth from the state of Hawaii showing that I was born there. How do I get one??
smuffjules 10 months ago
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@prooc Since I was born in the UK...I'd very much like to get a copy of a certificate of live birth from the state of Hawaii showing that I was born there. How do I get one?? Born in Hawaii that is.
smuffjules 10 months ago
@grendelee your a Fricking idiot Obamie turd
depjim94 10 months ago
@guitarhaus "Theres a reason why OBAMA spent a million dollars to keep his records sealed !!!!!" Hold on here it is again: "Theres a reason why OBAMA spent a million dollars to keep his records sealed !!!!!"
Put some ice on that cheek of yours, because you got dick whipped real proper.
onlyluckyful 10 months ago
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@onlyluckyful
He released his birth certificate on the 35th...dumbass.
SadegoGG 10 months ago
@onlyluckyful
25th*
SadegoGG 10 months ago
@guitarhaus Obama just proved you a retard
hunkgod 10 months ago
@guitarhaus He did. And the Birther Bullshit goes on and on.
TheCerebralDude 2 months ago
58% + 23% + 20% = 101% What are you are trying to tell me some. Who is the extra 1% ? Can I beleave anything you are saying?
I want to believe, but you know if Obama is not a U.S. Born citizen, we have been without a president since the election. Also everything that Obama has done at president is nullified and void. Then I wonder if they ever prove that he is an illegal alien, he would ever be arrested for fraud? So is he or is he not, our legal president?
truthandharmonycom 1 year ago
@truthandharmonycom But Obama IS a natural born citizen, the "Republican" governor of HI certified he was born there, Congress certified his votes without objections and he was sworn in TWICE by a SCOTUS judge. So YES he is our eligible president and all that he has done is not going to be nullified and void. Birthers have been saying this nonesense since 2008, Wake up! Is 2011 stop the bs.
clarity023 1 year ago
Well according to his grandmama he was born in Kenya. According to the movie based on his life, it was to a goat, in Kenya.
neoconster 1 year ago
According to the governor of Hawaii, who knew Obama's parents growing up, he DID NOT see him as a baby as this man says. He only saw him when he was 5 or 6 years old. He was in Kenya before that
mustluvdogz2 1 year ago
@mustluvdogz2
Obama never went to Kenya until he was an adult.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
This is ridiculous. You idiots can keep making excuses and defending this imposter. All he has to do is show the Birth Certificate like any of us have to do. Then it will go away.
stankc 1 year ago
where was he born?
tomandmary55 1 year ago
The President has more important things to do...VACATION? GOLF? BASKETBALL?
imbubba56 1 year ago
Why does he need a COLB if he already has a Long Form US citizenship? HI would not give out a COLB to someone that already has a Long Form BC.
He's lying people and he is guilty of Treason!
wetweasel56 1 year ago
Why so much name calling....these three are the nuts!!
beckisright 1 year ago
I love the fact that they invite two Obamatons to Prove why its just crazy talk. Yeah, the Kenyan PM is a liar, his grandmother is a liar, his school pictures from indonesia are lies, but some nearly blank cert is the truth. Sure. He has more important things to do , like go 180 on every single platform promise he made before he entered into office. Kudos.
west7productions 1 year ago
@west7productions Looks like they were lying, or they were just misinformed.
brntobme 10 months ago
There is one thing that could change minds. RELEASE THE ACTUAL UNOBSCURED CERT!!!!
west7productions 1 year ago 2
@west7productions Hahahahahahahaha. Funny how the truth makes a person think and say stupid shit. You must get this a lot... loser.
onlyluckyful 10 months ago
@west7productions
He did.
SadegoGG 10 months ago
In his memoir, BO wrote that his late father's personal effects in his possession included BO's birth certificate and childhood vaccination records. I wonder why BO never showed that 1961 BC to the media. There must be something on it that is embarrassing.
007ObiWan 1 year ago
@007ObiWan
1. Obama was writing about a time when he was still in high school ~30 years ago.
2. The document he provided is a valid, legal, State certified birth certificate.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
@007ObiWan The longer form BC contains a listing for "Religion" BO's would show Muslim based on his fathers religion and his mothers non-religion.
stuka52 1 year ago
@stuka52
The Hawaii birth certificate does not state religion of any kind.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
I am beginning to think that Chris is a Closet Birther. Nobody talks about it more than he does.
tdm5874 1 year ago
Obama has met the VERY MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS on this issue, just like his performance on so many other issues. The documentation provided by Obama is satisfactory to obtain a passport. The only problem, Obama is NOT trying to get a passport. He SHOULD be trying to satisfy 43% of the electorate. IT'S OBAMA'S PROBLEM, NOT MINE. I wouldn't even consider voting for the guy until he produces a birth certificate signed by the delivering physician.
Obama, could solve a problem, but WON'T.
DwightSimpson 1 year ago
JMO, but I believe we've been led down a false trail. That is why it's not democrats that are talking about 0bama's birth cert. First Chris Matthews, now the gov. of Hawaii.
0bama was born in Hawaii, USA. However, I would like to see which race block is checked on his birth certificate. I predict it says "white."
As long as people continue to talk about where 0bama was born, they aren't talking about which race square is filled in on his cert. Let's see how this plays out!
ReddNeckerson 1 year ago
@ReddNeckerson
There is no "race block" on the Hawaii long from from 1961.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
really I think matthews wants to see it as well. I think he is having seconds doubts. But, one thing they did not address is why obama has spent over 1 million dollars in legal fee for his attorneys to keep it from being exposed. WHY! Does anybody have any answers to why obama keeps spending money keep the birthers from making him reveal his complete long form and real birth certificate?
wheetypeedy 1 year ago
@wheetypeedy
Do you have a source for that ridiculous figure (over 1 million dollars)?
The original is protected by Hawaii Privacy Law (HRS §338-18). That hasn't cost Obama a dime.
The lawsuits were all dismissed = minimal cost. Have you actually read the lawsuits?
They accuse him of all kinds of stuff. In most cases he is not the only defendant.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
is abercrombie any kin to william ayres??
wheetypeedy 1 year ago
The black guy can only speculate about what the "birthers" will do IF they release the real document. I think "birthers" would get less attention if they did release the real deal so why not just ask for it?
brokencountry123 1 year ago
Who cares? We should all care. How do we know he isn't being blackmailed because he doesn't have an original, signed document?
brokencountry123 1 year ago
He's too busy but, he's vacationing Hawaii? Maybe he could have left the beach a little early and visited the state offices to request a copy. I don't believe this is "The Right" at work here. I think this is Hilary planting some seed's of doubt for 2012. Her supporters were the Original birthers and she wants to live in the white house again.
mssedmebich 1 year ago
Quote: "Obama was born in Hawaii,." I respect this opinion. If this opinion is based on fact it is certainly an important belief. Problem: Any person who refuses to provivde all the available evidence to help support the facts -- to prove the facts -- is disrespectful to both those who believe Obama was born in Hawaii and those who cannot tell due to the hidden evidence. Why are 100% of the voters being treated this way. This is Bush-like hubris.
pkpapers 1 year ago
This is funny. Chris sounds as agitated as a birther by the end of the interview.
mssedmebich 1 year ago
I smell Hillary at work here.
mssedmebich 1 year ago
L0L THEY DIDN'T RELEASE IT BECAUSE HE D0SEN'T HAVE THE REAL D0CUMENTS.
asborisov1 1 year ago
Let's place a plaque on the hospital where Obama was born. And let's have the press interview the medical staff that was present when he was born. THAT would solve the issue.
eksdem 1 year ago
@eksdem
Why they didn't do that with other presidents?
clarity023 1 year ago
This is a false trail. They aren't hiding a more in-depth version of 0bama's birth certificate because he wasn't born in the US; he was born in Hawaii. But what they are hiding is the fact that 0bama is listed as white on his birth certificate. People are asking the wrong questions and that's why there's no traction on this story.
ReddNeckerson 1 year ago
Kenyan Obama (Barry Soetoro) answers to his white benefactors: David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger & Zbignew Brzezinski—all of whom work tirelessly to further the eugenics'-based programs of the Anglo-American Alliance (inaccurately known as the New World Order).
SummerInJuly 1 year ago
********You cannot use the certificate of live birth or the soft copy version of your birth certificate to join the CIA,FBI, and other sensitive governmental positions. Why is Obama given an exemption?******************
RandyC0609 1 year ago
@RandyC0609
You can't join the CIA, FBI, Boy Scouts, little league, the military, be a pilot, or even use that COLB to prove your age to get a drivers license.
These guys are quacks.
FreeinTX 1 year ago
@FreeinTX
Who told you so? Look with Obama's COLB he got his passport!
/watch?v=GtUkeVHfj5w
All the lies debunked as you can see!
clarity023 1 year ago
EVERYONE!!!! You cannot join the FBI or CIA with the soft copy version Obama has presented as his proof of birth. It's that simple. If you were born in Hawaii and have this as your proof GREAT!!!! The state is not going to send you the original document and you are not our President. I will repeat this for those who just want to move on, YOU CANNOT join the CIA, FBI, and other sensative governmental positions with this document. Why is Obama given an exemption???????????????????????
RandyC0609 1 year ago
The more evidence Obama makes public the more evidence his supporters will have to support him. It will only help his side but Obama doesn't so that is very suspicious.
VexZeez 1 year ago
Billandtine, you took the words out of my mouth. Do these dodo's know basic simple math? it reminds me of a Yogism when he said 90% of the game is mental, the other half is physical
mravi732 1 year ago
bye-david.blogspot.com come to my site and tell me what you think about this topic and how you feel about many other problems we face in the government.
dropzip 1 year ago
58+20+23=101
These guys are full of it.
Always have been.
BillandTine 1 year ago
He has more important things to do? Really? It seems like this could all be put to rest very quickly by simply showing the long-form birth certificate and/or perhaps some of the other documentation that Obama refuses to show the public or even a court or judge. That would get rid of this distraction and allow Obama (or Soetoro), his staff, the general public, etc. to focus on "more important things." Also, is Article 2, Section 1 of the US Constitution not an important thing?
bigb47 1 year ago
Obama was born in Hawaii, you wackos.
MrClipper23 1 year ago
@MrClipper23 Even if that was true, his father was not a US citizen, so he's still ineligible.
Iamherelord777 1 year ago 2
@Iamherelord777
You said, "Even if that was true, his father was not a US citizen, so he's still ineligible."
That is not true. He is not, nor ever was a dual citizen, and I'm not even sure that matters. A natural born citizen can hold other citizenships and natural born citizen is the only requirement. Now if you have case law to show otherwise I would love to see it.
FreeinTX 1 year ago
@Iamherelord777
Wrong.Spiro's father was Greek not naturalized, he was registered as Alien in the 1920 Census I can send you the link later. Also Arthur & Buchanan's parens were Irish. Look for jus soli principle, The Supreme Court recognizes only 2 citizenships: natural born and naturalized. US grants citizenship to anybody born in US soil, even children of illegal immigrants born here, they can even run for president!
Educate yourself before posting. Read the Constitution.
clarity023 1 year ago
@Iamherelord777
So Buchanan, Arthur, and many others were ineligible too? How about Elg, Lynch, Wong Kim, (both his parents were Chinese NOT naturalized and he was declared citizen by birth or natural born citizen by the Supreme Court.
Look for the definition of jus soli before posting ignorant comments.
clarity023 1 year ago
@Iamherelord777 acutally, no. That is not true. Why do you try reading about it some. You are still a natural born citizen, even if one if your parents isnt. If that wasnt true, then ALOT of people are fucked.
Not to pull a sarah palin and make it personal, but MY kid has a foreign mother. Hes not an american? Fuck that, yes he by CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. Hes pretty fucking American, whether you like it or not.
grendelee 10 months ago
@Iamherelord777 The Fourteenth Amendment states that those born in the U.S. are citizens. If Obama was born in the U.S., he is a citizen.
JeffreyBeanJr 10 months ago
@Iamherelord777 Wrong, As long as the CHILD is born on U.S. soil, they are a naturalized citizen of the United States, AND if you want to play ignorant, his mother was a naturalized citizen regardless of whatever his father was.
piinthesky1368 10 months ago
@MrClipper23 Obama should not have been allowed to run you have to be a naturalized citizen which means both parents needed to be born in the USA period, Obama is a joke!!!
clearancequeenie 1 year ago
@clearancequeenie
You posted this which makes no sense at all:
" you have to be a naturalized citizen which means both parents needed to be born in the USA"
First a naturalized citizen doesn't mean both parents needed to be born in US! It means a person not born here goes through a process called naturalization.
cont.
clarity023 1 year ago
@clearancequeenie
cont. Second Nowhere is indicated that to be natural born and run for president you need 2 citizen parents. I'll give you evidence on that: jus soli . Buchanan and Arthur parents were Irish.
OMG are you in school? Oh well you should go to school and read before posting your stupid and ignorant comment!
Even children of illegal immigrants born here are natural born, parent's citizenship is irrelevant!!
clarity023 1 year ago
@clearancequeenie
...Mother of 3 boys... poor guys what kind of education are you going to give them. Pure ignorance!
clarity023 1 year ago
@MrClipper23
Prove it.
All anyone wants is a BIRTH CERTIFICATE (which is NOT a COLB) that has a signature from the doctor, a signature from a witness, and a state seal that makes the whole thing "official." We want to be able to go to the records and find that the entries are entered where they are supposed to be entered, and everything is on the up and up.
Instead, we get a signing statement, signed on his first day in office, to HIDE that information.
FreeinTX 1 year ago
@FreeinTX
Show me any other COLB of former presidents. Not even BUSH posted his bc online. Why Obama?
clarity023 1 year ago
@MrClipper23
And don't forget, after he shows he was born in the US, I would like to see the documentation where he was re-naturalized after giving up his citizenship at age 6 to attend public school in Indonesia at a time when Indonesia required citizenship to attend their schools and dual citizenship with the US was illegal under their and our law. If he claims he never gave up his citizenship, I would like to see his college records to show if he ever recieved foreign student aid.
FreeinTX 1 year ago
@FreeinTX
You would like to see the documentation where he was re-naturalized after giving up his citizenship at age 6?!
Are you really American? Graduated from HS? A child cannot renounce his citizenship! Not even a parent can renounce his child citizenship! It is a constitutional right! What can anybody expect form a person who writes "recieve" for receive? You are very ignorant your IQ must be very low, I'm pretty sure you voted for Bush twice!
Read from reliable sources & GROW A BRAIN!
clarity023 1 year ago
@FreeinTX
Obama was never an Indonesian citizen. Because he was born in Hawaii (US soil), he could not lose his US citizenship as a child. He would first have to renounce US citizenship and swear allegiance to Indonesia, which he could not do as minor, nor could his parents do for him.
For starters, google: Section 349(a) (5) of the INA
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
@MrClipper23
Matthews released an un-used butt wipe. A certificate of live birth can be changed and manipulated. No one has ever seen Obama's long form birth certificate. He put forward an excutive order that sealed all his personal records.
Yet, this is the man who promised the most transparent presidency the country has ever seen, and we're not even allowed to see what his grades were in high school.
SgtMalarkey31 1 year ago
@SgtMalarkey31
If you are referring to Exectutive Order 13489, that pertains to *Presidential Records* or records created AFTER he became President. It does not cover personal records.
Google: Presidential Records (44 U.S.C. Chapter 22) § 2201. Definitions
Educate yourself. You'll look like less of an idiot.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
@arrrogantlyignorant
Yup, he passed an executive order that seals all his personal records. I thought this was the most transparent president we all were going to see. He's a bold faced liar from top to bottom. How does it not strike you odd that obamas the only president in history that never had to release any of his personal records?
He could bring down the birth movement in one blow. By showing his original birth certificate. But he's not doing so. What does he not want us to see ??
SgtMalarkey31 1 year ago
@SgtMalarkey31
I guess you didnt bother to look at the info I cited.
That executive order DOES NOT COVER PERSONAL RECORDS. It was actually more restrictive under Bush's signing of EO 13233. Obama simply returned it to how it was when Reagan signed EO 12667.
Obama is the only Presidential candidate that made their birth certificate publicly available
It doesnt strike me as odd about his personal records. They're his business. If he wants to make them public, fine. If not, it doesnt bother me.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
@arrrogantlyignorant
Of course the birth issue doesn't matter to you, because you got the socalist messiahh you wanted your entire life. Had there been a conservate republican president with a shadowy bith placed you would have raised hell over it.
Moreover how did obama make his birth certificate publicy available if he never relased it? That's my question to you. You really expect me to believe the neo-marxist smack put out by msnbc? No one has ever seen obama's birth certificate.
SgtMalarkey31 1 year ago
@SgtMalarkey31
Your reply is interesting. All I did is give you concrete evidence that what YOU claim about an Executive Order "hiding his personal records" is wrong.
You opted for a personal attack because you dont have any facts to stand on.
I didn't vote for Obama. He is not a deity, hes a guy that ran for President (and won). If you consider him to be a 'messiah', no wonder you have problems.
I'm not a party line thinker at all, but obviously you are.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
@MrClipper23
Personally, I don't think the birth certificate issue is going to get obama thrown out. But it doesn't matter anyway. Obama is gone January 2013. No one's going to re-elect his inexperience and his socialist leanings. It's just unfortunate we had to live to see the day when a non-natural born citizen became President of the United States.
SgtMalarkey31 1 year ago
@MrClipper23 These two Obama press agents masquerading as journalists are a disgrace. Clarence Page says Obama is too busy with important matters to have bothered to direct the State of Hawaii to release his original 1961 birth certificate. Does he not know how much money has been paid to Obama's lawyers to defend the miriad number of cases that have been filed in courts around the country by "birthers" seeking to force the production of the original certificate? None of which were necessary.
mdnis 1 year ago
@MrClipper23 Even Chris Matthews, the king of the liberals and a guy who by his own admission hates the birthers advises Obama to come clean. If Obama has a birth certificate signed by the delivering physician, for goodness sake, produce it. Don't keep the nation in suspense! We are waiting. We are waiting.
Okay, okay, you got me. I fall into the 42% who question the president. Is that wrong?
DwightSimpson 1 year ago
Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune (it has to be a liberal rag) advises that Obama has provided enough information to get a passport. That's brilliant Clarence, that's brilliant. Take a poll. Are the 42% of non-believers now satisfied?
DwightSimpson 1 year ago
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@MrClipper23 keep telling yourself that!
west7productions 1 year ago
@MrClipper23
I love it, Governor Abercrombie cannot find the frauds birth certificate. . . . But none of this really matters to the resistant to truth, whacko, true believers, Obama worshippers such as yourself . . . . now does it?
BloodTar 11 months ago
@MrClipper23 Did you smack him on his ass when he popped out of his mommy!? lol
NoNORADon911 11 months ago
Jokes on us suckers, HAHA, they don't give a shit what you think, or know or don't know. They did 911 don't you think they could counterfeit a birth certificate!?
NoNORADon911 11 months ago
These guys are idiots, their percents are off, make the 23 22 and then you will have 100 percent with the 20 and the 58, pay attention you dumb asses!
jama5150 1 year ago
U.S. State Dept confirmed Barack Hussein Obama was Born a DUAL CITIZEN.
A DUAL CITIZEN can not and will not ever be aN Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 NATURAL BORN CITIZEN eligible for U.S. Presidency.
Barack Hussein Obama/Soebarkah/Barry Soetoro is a [[ USURPER ]] Being Born of a FOREIGN FATHER who was not a U.S.Citizen.
quill6211 1 year ago
1. They got to the bottom of nothing. They simply restated everything they have said for two years.
2. Announcements do not prove place of birth or citizenship.
3. Certification of live birth can be faked with as a little as a key stroke by a paid off dept. of records employee. Further, the paper it is printed on can be easily obtained by anyone in power, ie. CIA handlers.
4. Note Mathews sinister grin when he says you can get a job with the CIA based on that certification of live birth.
AnotherCompartment 1 year ago
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@AnotherCompartment
YOu said, "Note Mathews sinister grin when he says you can get a job with the CIA based on that certification of live birth."
I noticed that too. So in your face with his sh-t!
FreeinTX 1 year ago
Everytime I watch a clip from MSNBC,FOX and CNN,I have to watch it from 50feet away because the smell of bullshit is so overwhelming.
M2Canes 1 year ago
Good call Trufreedom. For us to assume that there aren't multiple corporate hands up these guys' asses is beyond naive. I'm almost embarrassed that I'm giving these shills a moment of my time. There might be others out there who live in the alternate reality that mainstream media has created who might not have considered alternatives. Chris Matthews is the puppet that the liberal left likes, Hannity is the right's puppet. Phil Berg makes excellent points that should be addressed by a court.
RandyC0609 1 year ago
Nut cases and ad hominem still isn't working Matthews and your pathetic ratings are the proof. Both of Obama's parents have had well known ties to the intelligence community. He became an Indonesian citizen and was provided with benefits afforded only to Indonesian citizens when he was adopted by Soetero and changed his name to Barry Soetero. Youtube Michelle saying Kenya is his place of birth. These guys are beyond pathetic and would his crush in a legitimate debate. Just show it already!!!
RandyC0609 1 year ago
@RandyC0609
Obama was never an Indonesian citizen. There are no records that prove Lolo Soetoro adopted him. There are no records that his name was ever legally changed to Soetoro.
Because he was born on US soil, he could not lose his US citizenship as a child. He would first have to renounce US citizenship, which he could not do as a minor. His parents could not do that for him either.
Michelle Obama never said Kenya was his place of birth.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
Also how much money did GE who owns MSNBC receive from bailout money!Also why is there no one on this panel with a dissenting voice like Philip Berg who was assistant DA in Pennsylvania!He has multiple law suits against Obama that he is not an American citizen!
trufreedom87 1 year ago
Well guys, it shouldn't be a big deal but Obama has made it one. John McCain, who was born in the US section of Panama, showed his birth certificate and we moved on. Obama hasn't done so to date and it's persisted as a topic. To dismiss the controversy by questioning the level of conspiratorial mind that faking birth announcements would require is a joke as well. If given the chance to be a US citizen over a Kenyan citizen what would you or your parents do...
RandyC0609 1 year ago
@RandyC0609 Its even less than that. HI vital statistics generates birth announcements to the local media. Iit used to be a public service performed by the papers to get the info from vital statistics and publish the announcements. They did the same with marriages (when you file the marriage license) and obituaries. It was an automated process to get yur name in the paper upon registration of your birth at the HI DoS.
Further, HI registered births from dozens of 3rd world coutries.
FreeinTX 1 year ago
How did he go to school with his parents, his dad was in Kenya!Also when Obama moved to Indonesia he gave up his citizenship to become a citizen there,so there is no argument he is not a citizen,why won't he release his school records,why has he spent over $100,000 to keep his birth cetificate sealed!
trufreedom87 1 year ago
Tools!!!
JediOfTheRepublic 1 year ago
I'm not a "birther", but my parents put a birth announcement in their hometown paper when my daughter was born. She was born 3000 miles away from their town, but that's what grandparents do sometimes; they share the news of the birth of their grandchild.
ohjoyhappyday 1 year ago 2
@ohjoyhappyday
On the birth announcements.
BOTH newspapers have been forced to acknowledge that the Department of State's vital statistics office, as a matter of routine, sent out announcements when the birth was registered at the vital statistics office. They also registered births from DOZENS of 3rd world countries as a courtesy in a time when records in those countries were lacking. Grandma registered the birth, and vital statistics notified the paper as a matter of routine.
FreeinTX 1 year ago
@FreeinTX
Note the date of the newspapers, versus Barry Soetoro's birthday. His birth was registered days later.
FreeinTX 1 year ago
@FreeinTX
Obama birth - Aug 4, 1961
Registered with Dept of Health - Aug 8
First Announcement appeared - Aug 13
Second Announcement appeared - Aug 14
Do you have specific information on how frequently the Hawaii Dept of Health sent data to the Hawaii News Agency?
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
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@FreeinTX
"They also registered births from DOZENS of 3rd world countries as a courtesy in a time when records in those countries were lacking. Grandma registered the birth"
Do you have any evidence that what you're claiming here is actually true? Cite your source please.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
@ohjoyhappyday
But the birth announcements in Hawaii comes directly from the hospital to the Health Dept, not a paid announcement by the family, so there you go!
clarity023 1 year ago
@ohjoyhappyday
But in Hawaii the birth announcements comes directly from the hospital to the Health Dept it is not a paid announcement made by parents or family. Nice try.
clarity023 1 year ago
TICK TOCK devils, & sell outs!!!
ChrisnStarry 1 year ago