It's possible that he isn't a sell out... that he really believes (from his perspective) that Medicare for all will fail, and that a crappy watered down bill will get goals met. I don't blame public servants for being wrong as lont as they are honest and acting in good faith. What I don't like is liars and hypocrites. I'm not seeing that in Rahm. (yet)
One of these days there will be an illness or injury too big and catastrophic to "pay at the window", and you will wonder why in the world you were ever against Single Payer.
grrgto Why Right Wingers Cant Afford to Let Universal Health Care Succeed
Posted by Time for change in General Discussion
Tue Jul 14th 2009, 09:00 PM
"...Think about it. What is government and what are corporations? Government is us the people. It is the vehicle by which the American people have arranged to serve their needs. Without government we have anarchy and the rule of the jungle, as opposed to the rule of law.The purpose of a corporation, on the other hand, is to make a profit. .."
grrgto The crimes of health insurance companies are well known... their existence is a crime. Do you live on a private island? Have you not heard of Wendell Potter? He is a retired CIGNA executive who is telling America the truth about health insurance companies . Google him, listen and learn.
grrgto Lazy Americans are you the tax anarchists, not those of us who work and pay taxes. This country never would've started with people like you, because it would be more full of ignoramuses like you than it is now. You would have voted Thomas Jefferson out of office because he was for public education for all by taxing citizens to get it.
I am for single payer, but, that option can't be passed by congress because of insurance company money. The fight's moved toward putting the "public option" in. The corporations are afraid, because they know a big fraction of people, especially those with crappy insurance, will pick the government-run insurance. We need to tell them: our country, our government, our health care. The insurance business should be happy to be allowed to exist.
grrgto hardy har har , that was so funny I forgot to laugh... unfortunately its only the insurance lobbyists and CEOS that are getting the last laugh over our dead bodies. Nothing much life, liberty and pursuit of happiness for us about that. And you can call me ma'am.
grrgto 200 years ago we had no cars. Yet the govt built roads when Americans got automobiles for transportation. So to be honest, you ride a horse & buggy on dirt paths?
grrgto The D of I, and US Constitution are not OBSTACLES to the people, but they SHOULD BE OBSTACLES TO corporations however! But unfortunately those ignorant of Civics (yes, I am referring to you personally as well) don't see it that way because they do not comprehend that this govt is SUPPOSED to represent the people, NOT the insurance lobbyists !
I see , you'd rather that OUR taxes go towards the PRIVATE lobbyists of Military Industrial Complex, instead of OUR healthcare. And then after military contractors bribe the war machine in Pentagon with more endless wars, where do our soldiers end up? You got it, in real SOCIALIZED MEDICINE at the V.A., with GOVT DOCTORS & GOVT HOSPITALS, unless of course they are in the GOVT GRAVEYARDS instead.
Your "pride" is one of the seven deadly sins and has nothing to do with 1776.
grrgto Are you totally insane? We have EVERY right to be concerned about lobbyists that take away the Constitutional rights of THE PEOPLE in Congress (its called critical thinking). Plus WE THE PEOPLE have every right to rid ourselves of a major scam in America by insurance middlemen to make profits by destroying our health & lives (what part of LIFE, LIBERTY & THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS do you not understand?)
grrgto Since when in USA is it CONSTITUTIONAL that people HAVE to buy from scammers ! It's that , or get sick or die! Which is what American people are doing because they cannot afford this FOR-PROFIT SCAM. What makes these insurance crooks ENTITLED to profits instead of our LIFE , LIBERTY & PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS by the PEOPLE, the first of which is LIFE. Wow, that must mean you never call the cops or fire dept when you have an emergency, or you r a total hypocrite.
grrgto Should the govt educate your children? Should the govt pave roads for YOUR DAMN CAR, and not provide health insurance for WE THE PEOPLE? Get with the program please.
grrgto omigosh , you are beyond ignorant, you are on planet Uranus! Single payer eliminates insurance corporations who are bloodsucking scammers, NOT PRIVATE DOCTORS, PRIVATE SPECIALISTS & PRIVATE HOSPITALS!!! Omigosh, you are brainless.
grrgto you of all people would benefit greatly from Single Payer Universal Health Care, because whether or not your brain transplant is successful, you still would not have medical bills
grrgto Well I could say that I hope you never collect Social Security, Medicare, & Disability if you are disabled because I paid into, but I won't because I am not a shithead fascist anarchist like you who nonetheless STILL uses our interstate highways, postal service, etc. And no telling how many federally-funded LOCAL & STATE agencies you utilize from your sheer ignorance. Now that you have been INFORMED , you better check out each and every public agency for federal funding, YOU HYPOCRITE
grrgto SS is a supplement that is a federal entitlement, so of course you will not take it being that would make you a hypocrite . Of course if you are disabled, you will not accept Disability, Medicaid and Food Stamps either, because you saved for that big rainy day flood if you get chronically ill or in a catastrophic accident.
grrgto In fact OF , BY & FOR THE PEOPLE does in fact mean we can vote our taxes for our Single Payer Universal Healthcare for all Americans. Your silly ad hominem attacks of "lazy & weak" are illogical and lack common sense.
grrgto Which quote? Thou shalt not build roads? Thou shalt hot provide police and fire depts? Thou shalt not have libraries (actually you will find plenty of quotes by Ben Franklin FOR libraries and postal services). Thou shalt not fund public education ? (Actually Thomas Jefferson was the idea man FOR public education)
grrgto Your ignorance & hatred towards WE THE PEOPLE and the Constitution are plainly obvious. Insurance doesn't give a rat's ass about WE THE PEOPLE. The Constitution was NOT written for corporate parasites!!! Listen up you freedom-hater, hop in a backwards time machine and go back to where you came from >>> MEDIEVAL TIMES.
grrgto hmmm, at least your ignorance is blissful, while you stand kneedeep in shit... but remember , if you slip and fall, you will be up to your eyeballs in it... so be prepared for all those insurance premiums, copays, deductibles, and out of pocket expenses to remove your head out of your ass.
grrgto Nobody is asking a stranger to pay your bills, with Single Payer YOU WILL HAVE NO BILLS ! The taxes for Single Payer will be FAR LESS than the money you have squirreled away too! And WITHOUT Single Payer, you will NOT have the MEANS to pay if you are wiped out due to CATASTROPHIC ILLNESS OR ACCIDENT so that you can no longer work to pay your medical bills! Are you young & healthy, because you really act like you know nothing of the facts of life. PS My house & car are paid for
grrgto You are not a liar, just profoundly ignorant. There is hope for you yet. Just repeat after me "My liberty is not giving up my brains to insurance scammers" Now repeat that a million times. I will not give up on you, ever!
grrgto You seem determined to live 100 years ago, when everyone else today lives in the HERE & NOW ... so we can presume you live in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, otherwise you are a hypocrite. When you come back to reality , and this century, then maybe we can talk... but for now you think you will always be wealthy & healthy. I hate to break it to you, but wealth & catastrophic illness do not go hand in hand. It is a fact of life that you will lose your health or wealth without insurance.
grrgto We have been given inalienable rights by our Creator... if you don't think health of our bodies is an inalienable right then there is something seriously wrong with your brain. You have an evil twisted warped view of Constitution and DOI
grrgto You are typical ignoramus who never studied Civics. Getting rich has NOTHING to do with the Constitution! The Constitution does not guarantee your sorry ass will be rich!!! The government IS THE PEOPLE. If the majority wins Single Payer, then ALL of us will have it because then the bill HR676 will become LAW OF THE LAND. And America is ruled by laws, NOT by men, and THAT is what you do not comprehend at all.
grrgto No, you clearly need a class on Civics, and Thomas Jefferson was a strong advocate of his BILL for PUBLIC EDUCATION. "The general objects [of a bill to diffuse knowledge more generally through the mass of the people] are to provide an education adapted to the years, to the capacity, and the condition of every one, and directed to their freedom and happiness." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIV, 1782. ME 2:204
grrgto Tyranny and oppression would be if the minority impose their will upon the majority without a vote, as you are doing to millions of Americans who are FOR Single Payer! YOU ARE THE TYRANT, because you want Single Payer off the table , when 59% of Americans want it ON THE TABLE for a VOTE!
grrgto I don't do stupid things... I work and buy insurance . I would rather work and pay taxes and not worry that I won't be covered fully by my own purchased insurance. You are very immature and irresponsible to think that you, of all people, can not become ill or injured ... the fact that you do not buy health insurance that you can afford demonstrates vast stupidity on your part!
grrgto If Single Payer is voted in then everyone will be paying much more equitably through taxes, so irresponsible people like you will no longer drive up costs. I won't be forced to carry your medical bills for you anymore through higher private premiums because you take the ludicrous risk of not carrying health insurance when you can afford it.
grrgto Again, freedom is NOT only for those who can be tyrants over others (private insurance companies) and liberty is NOT only for the rich. Read the Constitution , this is a democratic society and voting is in it, get it?
grrgto I work fulltime AND take care of a permanently disabled dependant , so you don't know what the meaning of work even is , you privileged son of silver spoon stuck up your ass.Count your blessings and pray that ALL Americans rights to LIFE are finally law of the land through our representatives, NOT just for rich fat asses who don't give a shit about their fellow Americans.
grrgto Insurance CEO is the only job where I could save enuf $ for catastrophic medical bills. You keep lying that you do not do stupid things...YOU ALREADY DO BY GOING HUNTING WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE ! Are you hunting alone where you may have an accident? STUPID! Are you hunting with someone who might Cheney you? STUPID ! Are you hunting dangerous wild animals? STUPID ! Those are ALL stupid things you do without carrying health insurance!!!
grrgto You were FORCED to go to school by a law originally introduced by Thomas Jefferson, and clearly that did not do you a damn bit of good. You have no concept of Civics, American democracy , US govt , and voting rights and how bills become LAWS. Single payer is currently a bill, HR676, and when it is voted in it will become LAW OF THE LAND for all..
grrgto Education for all is not just a "good idea" it is LAW, that is why you are forced to go to school! Health coverage for all will also be LAW. Get used to living in a country for all the people, not just rich fat asses.
grrgto NO!!! laws right now say we have to keep everyone alive AT ALL COSTS! But with Single Payer, even with everyone in it, anyone who has catastrophic illness or injury will be kept alive with LESS COSTS!
grrgto Funny that you are going way back before the US Founding Fathers now, because you do NOT want a country based on the Constitution of the United States of America !
You only want rich anarchists to rule! And that has NOTHING to do with the Ten Commandments.
grrgto You phoney "libertarians" only want "liberty" from government, and "freedom" for the rich, NOT power for the people ! You don't give a shit about the Constitution, or you would not be belly-aching about Single Payer being a Constitutional bill that will become LAW OF THE LAND. You are a fraud.
grrgto Gimme a break, all you are is a FASCIST PIG, America is about WE THE PEOPLE, not the few rich fat asses who think the people are just THINGS TO EXPLOIT.
grrgto Your "opinion" (aka bullying methods) to stop VOTING is not working. The majority of Americans want Single Payer, and there is nothing you can do to stop the vote for Single Payer.
grrgto CAUGHT IN YOUR OWN SPIDER WEB! So you are a cafeteria "libertarian" , lol, naughty , naughty, you are such a hypocrite, you only believe in those tax paid things you cannot afford to build or pay for by yourself ! Believe me , you are not the richest most selfish person in America. So there is somebody out there , who is richer than you, who does not believe that you should have police, fire dept, ER, k-12.
grrgto I went to school. I still pay school tax even though I have no K- 12 children anymore. Of course, you didn't because you do not believe in public schools... your parents forgot to homeschool you though.
grrgto Bullshit. You like that you have a tax paid public school system to fall back on so that YOU don't have to homeschool your own kids. You know can fool them now with your hypocrisy, but not forever.
grrgto No, you are infringing on others RIGHT TO LIFE by trying to bully people to STOP A VOTE on Single Payer. You are so afraid that the MAJORITY will win, that you will say anything to stop the voting in America!!!... go back and read your messages.... you are a DESPERATE BULLY ANARCHIST!
grrgto That's the only reason why you are here... to bully and call names . You are only here to bully people to STOP them from their voting rights ... you are a sorry excuse of a parent , and you are no American.
You are so removed from reality, you are so out of tune with real average Americans, you are so opposite of what WE THE PEOPLE and the Constitution of the USA is really about. Health care is an INALIENABLE HUMAN RIGHT , Americans should know this more than anyone, but fascist pigs like you have somehow brainwashed some Americans that MONEY is more important than WE THE PEOPLE!
grrgto I do more in one day for work and son than you do for your kids in a month. You are probably squirreling the money away for YOUR retirement rather than meeting their needs and heart's desires and college funds. You are just a bully and a selfish asshole... they go hand in hand.
grrgto Sarah Palin? No I work FULLTIME, carry insurance , and take care of my son.. Sarah Palin QUIT her job, and she has handed her special needs baby over to others during her governorship & run for VP . HER MONEY & AMBITION came before her baby, just like with you , your MONEY comes before your own kids health & welfare, because you would rather pinch a penny to be richer than buy insurance so your kids will be covered! And please don't tell me that kids don't get sick & injured & disabled
grrgto I know what her life is like... she has a special needs baby that she dumps on everyone for MONEY & AMBITION! My son is NOT a retard, he is autistic, and Sarah's baby is a precious gift, NOT a retard, but you would never know it from her behavior always whining in the limelight instead of spending time with her special child!
grrgto I want EVERYONE to be covered , not just my son through Medicaid. I have extra insurance on him too, because not ALL specialists are allowed to accept Medicaid, but that will all change when Single Payer becomes LAW OF LAND , through Constitutional voting process, in spite of your God hating, Constitution ripping, Satan worshipping hypocritical hatred of WE THE PEOPLE .
grrgto I love America , it is WE THE PEOPLE, not just for the few fat rich lazy miserable asses, but for ALL OF US, including your spiteful mean Satan-worshipping self. Single Payer will even include a miserable wretch like yourself, but more importantly, it will include your neglected children too. My son is far better off than your kids right now.
grrgto I worship God, love my country, and adore my son, THAT is why I work for nothing and give him everything! And I will keep on working for Single Payer without hindrance of STUPID BULLIES who think they can rule with might, not right! Single Payer will become CONSTITUTIONAL LAW because the majority of WE THE PEOPLE want it!
grrgto Again, you are a typical BULLY for going around calling disabled people names, anyone coming here can see that you care nothing about WE THE PEOPLE, nothing about YOUR OWN KIDS, and you love ONLY MONEY. The MAJORITY OF AMERICANS need and want Single Payer so that they will not be sad. You are just plain bad.
grrgto You are a criminal tax anarchist who refuses to obey the Constitution of the United States of America. Like it or not, this is a LAND OF LAWS, not of ruling class assholes like you. Grow up. You are 38 calling disabled people names. Please adopt your children out, I am VERY concerned for their physical health, emotional, and mental welfare . You are not father material by any stretch of the imagination.
grrgto You hate the disabled and your own flesh and blood, NOT ME! You complain that they would take one red cent of your precious money for their HEALTH!!! You are a monster, NOT a father. Go in a wayback machine to Medieval Times, you would fit nicely as a fat ass feudal master back then.
grrgto You have much less common sense than any disabled person. You are a monster. Fortunately, being a malicious monster is not covered by Americans with Disabilities Act. You CHOOSE to be rotten down to the bone ... what a sad sinister "life" you have made for yourself.
It's possible that he isn't a sell out... that he really believes (from his perspective) that Medicare for all will fail, and that a crappy watered down bill will get goals met. I don't blame public servants for being wrong as lont as they are honest and acting in good faith. What I don't like is liars and hypocrites. I'm not seeing that in Rahm. (yet)
Corporations8MyBaby 1 year ago
because he sold out to the insurance lobby, BASTARDS
Isawanangel1X 2 years ago
You guys rock - how are u getting in there w/camera? Let me know. I wanna go.
SinglePayerCentral 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto you have flipped your lid... second thought , you have no lid to flip.
And BTW, you cannot make me shut up in America.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You cannot shut me up because I have freedom of speech, so it does not matter how many times you say shut-up.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto I can tell you to stop telling me to shut up because I have freedom of speech, and the votes will happen for Single Payer.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Now you can't stop laughing at yourself ...see how silly being an overgrown bully really is?
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto oooh, one comment you claim freedom of speech, next comment you tell me to shut up.... you can't handle the truth!
Typical bully , anarchist, treasonous tyrant.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
grrgto you are a mind slave to corporate corruption
/watch?v=W_w3xk3jCYo
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto The Constitution says you cannot tell anyone to shut up, we are ALL in a free country, not ruled by wannabe tyrants like you.
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grrgto You are an anti-people, unAmerican traitor, that's a fact. And I do not shut up in America.
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One of these days there will be an illness or injury too big and catastrophic to "pay at the window", and you will wonder why in the world you were ever against Single Payer.
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grrgto Why Right Wingers Cant Afford to Let Universal Health Care Succeed
Posted by Time for change in General Discussion
Tue Jul 14th 2009, 09:00 PM
"...Think about it. What is government and what are corporations? Government is us the people. It is the vehicle by which the American people have arranged to serve their needs. Without government we have anarchy and the rule of the jungle, as opposed to the rule of law.The purpose of a corporation, on the other hand, is to make a profit. .."
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto "liberty" is NOT being scammed for profits by insurance corps ! LIBERTY IS HEALTHCARE FOR ALL .
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto The crimes of health insurance companies are well known... their existence is a crime. Do you live on a private island? Have you not heard of Wendell Potter? He is a retired CIGNA executive who is telling America the truth about health insurance companies . Google him, listen and learn.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Lazy Americans are you the tax anarchists, not those of us who work and pay taxes. This country never would've started with people like you, because it would be more full of ignoramuses like you than it is now. You would have voted Thomas Jefferson out of office because he was for public education for all by taxing citizens to get it.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
I am for single payer, but, that option can't be passed by congress because of insurance company money. The fight's moved toward putting the "public option" in. The corporations are afraid, because they know a big fraction of people, especially those with crappy insurance, will pick the government-run insurance. We need to tell them: our country, our government, our health care. The insurance business should be happy to be allowed to exist.
wildgift2 2 years ago
Sooo Rahm, then the objective is clearly more profits for insurance corporations .
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
rahm is a medical fascist too
finefilth 2 years ago 2
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google" the whale medical fascism"... you are being fist fucked and murdered by medical tyrants and wall street parasites
modern medicine is the biggest fraud in history ( next to central banking)
suppress causes and cures for ALL disease to protect egregious and extortionary profits
finefilth 2 years ago
SAY NO TO SINGLE PAYER!
Say yes to paying for your own health care yourself!
grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto, riiiiiight... good luck with that
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto alright already we get it... it'll be over your dead body before you go to your OWN private doctor on Single Payer Universal Healthcare
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto hardy har har , that was so funny I forgot to laugh... unfortunately its only the insurance lobbyists and CEOS that are getting the last laugh over our dead bodies. Nothing much life, liberty and pursuit of happiness for us about that. And you can call me ma'am.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
You said, "its real simple. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
However, if you don't have the means to pay for health care by yourself, you loose all of these.
smartgirl63 2 years ago
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grrgto 200 years ago we had no cars. Yet the govt built roads when Americans got automobiles for transportation. So to be honest, you ride a horse & buggy on dirt paths?
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grrgto ok, so let me get this straight, you are against the government OF, BY , and FOR the people?
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grrgto The D of I, and US Constitution are not OBSTACLES to the people, but they SHOULD BE OBSTACLES TO corporations however! But unfortunately those ignorant of Civics (yes, I am referring to you personally as well) don't see it that way because they do not comprehend that this govt is SUPPOSED to represent the people, NOT the insurance lobbyists !
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I see , you'd rather that OUR taxes go towards the PRIVATE lobbyists of Military Industrial Complex, instead of OUR healthcare. And then after military contractors bribe the war machine in Pentagon with more endless wars, where do our soldiers end up? You got it, in real SOCIALIZED MEDICINE at the V.A., with GOVT DOCTORS & GOVT HOSPITALS, unless of course they are in the GOVT GRAVEYARDS instead.
Your "pride" is one of the seven deadly sins and has nothing to do with 1776.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Are you totally insane? We have EVERY right to be concerned about lobbyists that take away the Constitutional rights of THE PEOPLE in Congress (its called critical thinking). Plus WE THE PEOPLE have every right to rid ourselves of a major scam in America by insurance middlemen to make profits by destroying our health & lives (what part of LIFE, LIBERTY & THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS do you not understand?)
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto Since when in USA is it CONSTITUTIONAL that people HAVE to buy from scammers ! It's that , or get sick or die! Which is what American people are doing because they cannot afford this FOR-PROFIT SCAM. What makes these insurance crooks ENTITLED to profits instead of our LIFE , LIBERTY & PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS by the PEOPLE, the first of which is LIFE. Wow, that must mean you never call the cops or fire dept when you have an emergency, or you r a total hypocrite.
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grrgto Should the govt educate your children? Should the govt pave roads for YOUR DAMN CAR, and not provide health insurance for WE THE PEOPLE? Get with the program please.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto LOL, By Jove, I think you've finally got it ! :
Single Payer , NOT CHOOSE MY DOCTOR
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto omigosh , you are beyond ignorant, you are on planet Uranus! Single payer eliminates insurance corporations who are bloodsucking scammers, NOT PRIVATE DOCTORS, PRIVATE SPECIALISTS & PRIVATE HOSPITALS!!! Omigosh, you are brainless.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto you of all people would benefit greatly from Single Payer Universal Health Care, because whether or not your brain transplant is successful, you still would not have medical bills
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto Well I could say that I hope you never collect Social Security, Medicare, & Disability if you are disabled because I paid into, but I won't because I am not a shithead fascist anarchist like you who nonetheless STILL uses our interstate highways, postal service, etc. And no telling how many federally-funded LOCAL & STATE agencies you utilize from your sheer ignorance. Now that you have been INFORMED , you better check out each and every public agency for federal funding, YOU HYPOCRITE
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto SS is a supplement that is a federal entitlement, so of course you will not take it being that would make you a hypocrite . Of course if you are disabled, you will not accept Disability, Medicaid and Food Stamps either, because you saved for that big rainy day flood if you get chronically ill or in a catastrophic accident.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto In fact OF , BY & FOR THE PEOPLE does in fact mean we can vote our taxes for our Single Payer Universal Healthcare for all Americans. Your silly ad hominem attacks of "lazy & weak" are illogical and lack common sense.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
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Was that an invitation? No thank you.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Which quote? Thou shalt not build roads? Thou shalt hot provide police and fire depts? Thou shalt not have libraries (actually you will find plenty of quotes by Ben Franklin FOR libraries and postal services). Thou shalt not fund public education ? (Actually Thomas Jefferson was the idea man FOR public education)
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto It's real obvious you have never been to a library.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto I am fighting for my freedom NOW, from a bunch of yahoos that have absolutely no respect for it.... namely the insurance lobbyists & you!
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grrgto Your ignorance & hatred towards WE THE PEOPLE and the Constitution are plainly obvious. Insurance doesn't give a rat's ass about WE THE PEOPLE. The Constitution was NOT written for corporate parasites!!! Listen up you freedom-hater, hop in a backwards time machine and go back to where you came from >>> MEDIEVAL TIMES.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto True, I do not respect your premise based solely on ignorance.
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grrgto hmmm, at least your ignorance is blissful, while you stand kneedeep in shit... but remember , if you slip and fall, you will be up to your eyeballs in it... so be prepared for all those insurance premiums, copays, deductibles, and out of pocket expenses to remove your head out of your ass.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto Nobody is asking a stranger to pay your bills, with Single Payer YOU WILL HAVE NO BILLS ! The taxes for Single Payer will be FAR LESS than the money you have squirreled away too! And WITHOUT Single Payer, you will NOT have the MEANS to pay if you are wiped out due to CATASTROPHIC ILLNESS OR ACCIDENT so that you can no longer work to pay your medical bills! Are you young & healthy, because you really act like you know nothing of the facts of life. PS My house & car are paid for
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grrgto You are not a liar, just profoundly ignorant. There is hope for you yet. Just repeat after me "My liberty is not giving up my brains to insurance scammers" Now repeat that a million times. I will not give up on you, ever!
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
grrgto Ahhh, you ARE young... 38, and you must be fat dum and happy too. Let's see how long that lasts without Single Payer.
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grrgto Good , I am glad you choose freedom, now we can vote for Single Payer... and I will not shutup about it, ever.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
grrgto SINGLEPAYER IS ALL ABOUT PLANNING FOR TODAY'S & TOMORROW'S PATIENTS, while insurance corporations plot how not to treat patients.
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grrgto You seem determined to live 100 years ago, when everyone else today lives in the HERE & NOW ... so we can presume you live in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, otherwise you are a hypocrite. When you come back to reality , and this century, then maybe we can talk... but for now you think you will always be wealthy & healthy. I hate to break it to you, but wealth & catastrophic illness do not go hand in hand. It is a fact of life that you will lose your health or wealth without insurance.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto We have been given inalienable rights by our Creator... if you don't think health of our bodies is an inalienable right then there is something seriously wrong with your brain. You have an evil twisted warped view of Constitution and DOI
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grrgto You are typical ignoramus who never studied Civics. Getting rich has NOTHING to do with the Constitution! The Constitution does not guarantee your sorry ass will be rich!!! The government IS THE PEOPLE. If the majority wins Single Payer, then ALL of us will have it because then the bill HR676 will become LAW OF THE LAND. And America is ruled by laws, NOT by men, and THAT is what you do not comprehend at all.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto No, you clearly need a class on Civics, and Thomas Jefferson was a strong advocate of his BILL for PUBLIC EDUCATION. "The general objects [of a bill to diffuse knowledge more generally through the mass of the people] are to provide an education adapted to the years, to the capacity, and the condition of every one, and directed to their freedom and happiness." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIV, 1782. ME 2:204
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
grrgto Tyranny and oppression would be if the minority impose their will upon the majority without a vote, as you are doing to millions of Americans who are FOR Single Payer! YOU ARE THE TYRANT, because you want Single Payer off the table , when 59% of Americans want it ON THE TABLE for a VOTE!
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Single Payer will be won by democracy , and then the tyranny of private insurance will disappear forever.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto I don't do stupid things... I work and buy insurance . I would rather work and pay taxes and not worry that I won't be covered fully by my own purchased insurance. You are very immature and irresponsible to think that you, of all people, can not become ill or injured ... the fact that you do not buy health insurance that you can afford demonstrates vast stupidity on your part!
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto If Single Payer is voted in then everyone will be paying much more equitably through taxes, so irresponsible people like you will no longer drive up costs. I won't be forced to carry your medical bills for you anymore through higher private premiums because you take the ludicrous risk of not carrying health insurance when you can afford it.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
grrgto Again, freedom is NOT only for those who can be tyrants over others (private insurance companies) and liberty is NOT only for the rich. Read the Constitution , this is a democratic society and voting is in it, get it?
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto I work fulltime AND take care of a permanently disabled dependant , so you don't know what the meaning of work even is , you privileged son of silver spoon stuck up your ass.Count your blessings and pray that ALL Americans rights to LIFE are finally law of the land through our representatives, NOT just for rich fat asses who don't give a shit about their fellow Americans.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Insurance CEO is the only job where I could save enuf $ for catastrophic medical bills. You keep lying that you do not do stupid things...YOU ALREADY DO BY GOING HUNTING WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE ! Are you hunting alone where you may have an accident? STUPID! Are you hunting with someone who might Cheney you? STUPID ! Are you hunting dangerous wild animals? STUPID ! Those are ALL stupid things you do without carrying health insurance!!!
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You were FORCED to go to school by a law originally introduced by Thomas Jefferson, and clearly that did not do you a damn bit of good. You have no concept of Civics, American democracy , US govt , and voting rights and how bills become LAWS. Single payer is currently a bill, HR676, and when it is voted in it will become LAW OF THE LAND for all..
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Education for all is not just a "good idea" it is LAW, that is why you are forced to go to school! Health coverage for all will also be LAW. Get used to living in a country for all the people, not just rich fat asses.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You idiot , kids' parents are forced to send them to school, nimrod
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto The obvious "good thing" is that LIFE comes before your precious "liberty" that you think you are only entitled to. You are as stupid as ever.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto NO!!! laws right now say we have to keep everyone alive AT ALL COSTS! But with Single Payer, even with everyone in it, anyone who has catastrophic illness or injury will be kept alive with LESS COSTS!
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto So you are a tax anarchist? Be prepared for IRS to take the farm.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto two things NEVER goes away , nimrod! Death & taxes
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Funny that you are going way back before the US Founding Fathers now, because you do NOT want a country based on the Constitution of the United States of America !
You only want rich anarchists to rule! And that has NOTHING to do with the Ten Commandments.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You phoney "libertarians" only want "liberty" from government, and "freedom" for the rich, NOT power for the people ! You don't give a shit about the Constitution, or you would not be belly-aching about Single Payer being a Constitutional bill that will become LAW OF THE LAND. You are a fraud.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Gimme a break, all you are is a FASCIST PIG, America is about WE THE PEOPLE, not the few rich fat asses who think the people are just THINGS TO EXPLOIT.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You contribute NOTHING to the common welfare of the people, you are AGAINST that , remember???
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You pay taxes BY LAW, cut out the "I give willingly" crap. You are Scrooge, you wouldn't give a turkey to Tiny Tim's father on Christmas.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You are consistent at being wrong AND hypocrisy, I'll give you that.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Your "opinion" (aka bullying methods) to stop VOTING is not working. The majority of Americans want Single Payer, and there is nothing you can do to stop the vote for Single Payer.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto your god is money
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto umm, you are the one floundering in the days of pilgrims before the Constitution of the United States of America !
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You think like a rich anarchist, not a true American.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto CAUGHT IN YOUR OWN SPIDER WEB! So you are a cafeteria "libertarian" , lol, naughty , naughty, you are such a hypocrite, you only believe in those tax paid things you cannot afford to build or pay for by yourself ! Believe me , you are not the richest most selfish person in America. So there is somebody out there , who is richer than you, who does not believe that you should have police, fire dept, ER, k-12.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto I went to school. I still pay school tax even though I have no K- 12 children anymore. Of course, you didn't because you do not believe in public schools... your parents forgot to homeschool you though.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Bullshit. You like that you have a tax paid public school system to fall back on so that YOU don't have to homeschool your own kids. You know can fool them now with your hypocrisy, but not forever.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto So of course you do not pay into Social Security and Medicare, you are an anarchist, not an American.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Actually you are the nosey busy body bullying people on a Single Payer forum.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You are AFRAID Single Payer will pass with VOTES, so you bully people to STOP THE VOTING... that is your true display of pure anarchy
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto No, you are infringing on others RIGHT TO LIFE by trying to bully people to STOP A VOTE on Single Payer. You are so afraid that the MAJORITY will win, that you will say anything to stop the voting in America!!!... go back and read your messages.... you are a DESPERATE BULLY ANARCHIST!
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto That's the only reason why you are here... to bully and call names . You are only here to bully people to STOP them from their voting rights ... you are a sorry excuse of a parent , and you are no American.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto
You are so removed from reality, you are so out of tune with real average Americans, you are so opposite of what WE THE PEOPLE and the Constitution of the USA is really about. Health care is an INALIENABLE HUMAN RIGHT , Americans should know this more than anyone, but fascist pigs like you have somehow brainwashed some Americans that MONEY is more important than WE THE PEOPLE!
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto I do more in one day for work and son than you do for your kids in a month. You are probably squirreling the money away for YOUR retirement rather than meeting their needs and heart's desires and college funds. You are just a bully and a selfish asshole... they go hand in hand.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Sarah Palin? No I work FULLTIME, carry insurance , and take care of my son.. Sarah Palin QUIT her job, and she has handed her special needs baby over to others during her governorship & run for VP . HER MONEY & AMBITION came before her baby, just like with you , your MONEY comes before your own kids health & welfare, because you would rather pinch a penny to be richer than buy insurance so your kids will be covered! And please don't tell me that kids don't get sick & injured & disabled
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto I know what her life is like... she has a special needs baby that she dumps on everyone for MONEY & AMBITION! My son is NOT a retard, he is autistic, and Sarah's baby is a precious gift, NOT a retard, but you would never know it from her behavior always whining in the limelight instead of spending time with her special child!
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto I want EVERYONE to be covered , not just my son through Medicaid. I have extra insurance on him too, because not ALL specialists are allowed to accept Medicaid, but that will all change when Single Payer becomes LAW OF LAND , through Constitutional voting process, in spite of your God hating, Constitution ripping, Satan worshipping hypocritical hatred of WE THE PEOPLE .
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto I love America , it is WE THE PEOPLE, not just for the few fat rich lazy miserable asses, but for ALL OF US, including your spiteful mean Satan-worshipping self. Single Payer will even include a miserable wretch like yourself, but more importantly, it will include your neglected children too. My son is far better off than your kids right now.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto I worship God, love my country, and adore my son, THAT is why I work for nothing and give him everything! And I will keep on working for Single Payer without hindrance of STUPID BULLIES who think they can rule with might, not right! Single Payer will become CONSTITUTIONAL LAW because the majority of WE THE PEOPLE want it!
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto i came here to discuss Single Payer, you came here to BULLY Single Payer advocates in order to disrupt the democratic process of voting
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto Again, you are a typical BULLY for going around calling disabled people names, anyone coming here can see that you care nothing about WE THE PEOPLE, nothing about YOUR OWN KIDS, and you love ONLY MONEY. The MAJORITY OF AMERICANS need and want Single Payer so that they will not be sad. You are just plain bad.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You are a criminal tax anarchist who refuses to obey the Constitution of the United States of America. Like it or not, this is a LAND OF LAWS, not of ruling class assholes like you. Grow up. You are 38 calling disabled people names. Please adopt your children out, I am VERY concerned for their physical health, emotional, and mental welfare . You are not father material by any stretch of the imagination.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto It's people like you who ABUSE God and Americans for MONEY. Like it or not, America is for WE THE PEOPLE.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You hate the disabled and your own flesh and blood, NOT ME! You complain that they would take one red cent of your precious money for their HEALTH!!! You are a monster, NOT a father. Go in a wayback machine to Medieval Times, you would fit nicely as a fat ass feudal master back then.
Yankhadenough 2 years ago
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grrgto 2 years ago
grrgto You have much less common sense than any disabled person. You are a monster. Fortunately, being a malicious monster is not covered by Americans with Disabilities Act. You CHOOSE to be rotten down to the bone ... what a sad sinister "life" you have made for yourself.