this video is a crock of shit. Its funny how Israel produced edited versions of video's, took away camera's etc from the peace activists. I wonder what they want to hide.Israel murdered those turks and we will never forget. We saved 150, 000 jews from the spanish, encouraged jewish migration to palestine inthe early 1800's and this is how they repay us. Israel is the most powerful country in the world, but they fucked us and we will never forget. U may have stopped a boat, but u sunk an ally.
In France, we was occupied by the nazi , and thus under control of these barbaric invaders during the time1940-1944 . Many Frenchs were resistants ( my own family included ) and saved Jews .........
But now, a lot of Israelis, a lot of zionists and some Jews hate the Frenchs because of the nazi occupation, and trust me, in their elites circles, the retaliation against France and the French is a planed reality .
@FrenchPropagandaV1RR I applaud your family for fighting back. It is truly something to be proud of. However Im not sure of your point. R u trying to say that the ottomans ruled over the jews? R u saying the ottomans ruled jewish territories and now bc of that the jews hate the turks even though we saved 150, 000 of them from spain?
You guys need to open a Koran and read it for yourself. It is loaded with anti-semitism and anti-christian racism. It a religion founded out of hate. Read the history behind Islam. It has a long history of gynocide. Stop believing everything Muslims and the media tell you and educate yourselves. Islam has all ways been the largest propaganda machine in the world.
may i ask something? who is taking this video? the zionis right? of course they want to blame the activis, i know its wrong for the activis to attack the soldier, but think yourself, who doesn't want to protect themselves? for sure, if you were there to in the ship, you also will be afraid and beat them, but for sure, you didn't have a gun to shoot them, you just can used a pole to defend yourself, and one more thing, they attack not at their territory, so they are just like the pirates.
@princessevenly Yes it is edited princeevenly. Israelis put out a video (conveniently) within hours after the murders. Infact, what they didn't show in this video is how they killed people first from air, before they came on board. That is why the activists were defending themselves. Thereare alot of testimonies of the passengers on YT.
off course....and 9/11 is an Israeli conspiracy ,ihh didnt organize 40 pepole with walkie-talkies to wait to attack idf (with flowers - not knifes), ihh personal wasn't raided by Turkish government in Istanbul finding weapons propaganda, manual to build a bomb...etc.,ihh achmad vasin wasnt arrested in dec. 1999 millennium planning a suicide bomb attack, the captain lied about asking ihh stop organizing an attack, navy wasn't asking them to check cargo - and refused.holocaust didnt happen...sure
"Violence against Navy soldiers" - Errrrr, well if armed soldiers force their way onto a boat what else do they expect? Flowers and a cup of tea....?!
@xiphiron Errr, well then, if four "Peaceful activists" beat down to death a soldier lying on the ground with chains, clubs and knives what should they expect? More flowers? A polite "Please stop that" ?
Do not lift the blockade! Lifting blockade will cause another hamas-Israeli war. Think what would happen with palestinian ppl. They will be abused by hamas again. Their homes would turn into shelters of hamas terrorists, their bodies would be used as human shields for hamas pigs! If you really care about palestinian ppl - DO NOT LIFT THE BLOCKADE!!!! BLOCKADE IS EFFECTIVE AND IT SAVES LIFES FROM BOTH SIDES!!!!!
Blockade is effective and it saves lifes! Since its establishing Hamas is no longer able to receive and launch the most dangerous and precise rockets - GRADs. Residents of Israeli, previously bombarded, cities like Sderot feel a huge relief! Israel is not against palestinian ppl! Israel sends for palestinian ppl in Gaza thousands of tons of humanitarian aid. If ppl in Gaza starving, its not Israel fault, its because of hamas which makes artificial shortages of supply.
@jbhjfdgdfrg Could whoever is marking pro-Israeli comments as spam please stop it. That's not what the spam button's for, even if the comments are as stone-hearted and idiotic as this one.
There is no Israeli 'the average Joshua' that comes out on the internet to bitch . only the i-don't-eat-meat-and-i-just-gratuated-passifist needs to go on an ego trip to Gaza. To contact 'reality' But in general these situations itches every media-anti-zionist and turn their world upside down as a binairy on and off button. Not because they are connected to the conflict but for different reasons. They all share one thing, which is to remain muted on Hamas or the bigger picture sideline martyrs
"They had already opened fire with what I thought to be rubberized bullets... They have a steel core... and can themselves can be lethal. But almost immediately, we heard the different noise of live rounds being fired--but not indiscriminately or wildly. Rather, it was carefully targeted from both sides of the ship--which was surrounded--from the helicopter, and from those Israeli attack forces who were landing on the ship itself." s DOT gd SLASH cGz1S
"Israeli attack dinghies, called Zodiacs, moved up very quickly on the side of the boat. They were carrying fully armed Special Forces--full commando attack units.
By fully armed, I mean something like five pieces of firepower or knives--rifles, sidearms, commando knives, balaclava-covered faces, Kevlar helmets and so on. In other words, something akin to the U.S. Navy Seals people see in the movies in a glamorized way." is DOT gd SLASH cGz1S
"It began with percussion grenades. They are an explosive, and they can injure people badly when they go off next to them. They were designed to create panic, which itself is an extremely reckless and violent act when you consider that this was a civilian passenger ship carrying over 500 people from 32 different nationalities." is DOT gd SLASH cGz1S
@jonnytonga I'd put on your tinfoil hat if I were you so that we can't zap you with our secret anti-Semitic ray gun hat all the top goyim physicists from all across the world have been working on.
By your "efforts to survive" you mean your efforts to die because nothing who so arrogantly and recklessly makes enemies as Israel does has a future. But maybe your tinfoil hat will protect you from that too.
As Turks we saved a lot of Jewish people as you know in the history. From Spain with ships, from Germany by giving them Turkish Passports & citizenships...
even there are a lot of thank you letters are sent by David Ben Gurion...
Is it your way to say thank you by killing our citizens & supporting the terrorist group PKK? you can google about PKK
@MapleZalm it is obvious that many people commenting here consider the arabs to be cockroaches, i.e. untermenschen. eretz israel, expelling the palestinians to make room for jews is about lebensraum. zionism is in origin a european racist nationalism. israel got very cosy with nazi-lover vorster of south africa. israel is implementing apartheid. myself i wouldn't have chosen to use that particular n-word, but it's an entirely valid comparison.
@fartybraindeath It might be a rude question but how dare you to try making an opinion and try to precieve this conflict from a western perspective. personaly i wouldn't dare to cross that line. You can only think in images of death people, walls, and superiour forces and victims, i wouldn't call that daily reality How can you compair history with the presence? the world is changing, and is facing new dilemmas that can't be summerized in a comparison of history archived by the internet
@arievanscholten The word "reason" comes from the Latin "ratio", meaning a measure. To measure means to compare one thing with another. Zionism refuses to measure. It says that the death of a Jew is fundamentally different from the death of a Palestinian and that therefore to compare them is a category error. To compare the Holocaust to any other historical event is heresy. All sense of proportion (ratio) is lost and the result is insanity and carnage.
@fartybraindeath Genocide is only possible when humans are painted as animals. The same doctrine that was forcefed under Hitlers command. And today spoken words by Ahmadinejad What fundamental difference is there between the palestinian people and members of the Hamas? It is all over the news when a jew kills a muslim or a muslim kills a jew. But what happens when a muslim kills a muslim ?
@arievanscholten It is very clear from most of the comments being left here, as well as from the rabid private messages I have received, that Palestinians are widely regarded as vermin among Israeli Jews. It is also obvious that this attitude goes to the top. The personal conduct of the loathesome Ariel Sharon towards Palestinians was particularly notorious. So yes, that is one condition for genocide that has clearly been met. I don't understand the rest of your post.
watch?v=EgcJ_dSwGuY watch bloodied israeli soldiers beaten and stubbed by Marmara activists, proving beyond doubt the Israeli account was TRUE and Free Gaza are despicable LIARS and IHH militant thugs attacked unarmed soldiers first. . and when the rescue party came in, ONLY 9 were killed? . see at 0:14 ALLAH written in blood on the injured soldier's chest. . watch?v=JaiMjAULWn0 Censored Turkish TV Footage - How Violence Breaks Out . Flotilla Choir: watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg
@MapleZalm If menpower and weaponary were represented by both sides yes, But unfortunatly radical islamic regimes such as Iran and Hamas, are using weapons of mass media. watch?v=7_OGhj43GAE
@arievanscholten Every crime and atrocity by Israel is a stain on the honour of the West, which has protected Israel from having to face the consequences of its own actions.
@arievanscholten What I mean is that the West has dishonoured itself when it has supported Zionist aggression while claiming to uphold universalist liberal values. Certainly honour has nothing to do with the pitiful dog-eat-dog rationale of Zionist violence.
@fartybraindeath Instead of correcting your point and upgrading your super latives, prehaps you can respond on the content of my comment. Even if you are an anti zionist we both know that this provocation is part of a political game of chess. While we are all focusing on this event and expressing our opinions about it on the streets and the internet something else is kickstarted what is actualy Turkeys intrest in breaking alliance with Israel, and what is Egypts position in these dynamics? Iran?
@Preversive From the look of things it's Israel vs the human rights, laws of war, international laws and treaties as well as the entire world. The Israeli state and it's twisted logic has gone too far. The world needs to protect itself against such arrogant breaches of all that is right and fair.
@tokisnoki Israel now faces the stark choice between trying to remain he chosen people and rejoining the rest of us scum in the human race. I can say, hand on heart, that I am proud to be common human scum because a lot of common human scum like us value our common humanity.
@Preversive Which is really what it's all about. Whenever your shiny faced people in suits mouth off saying "We will not giving in to terrorism" what they really mean is "We will not give in to anyone militarily weaker than us." Such thinking is callous and depraved. It is also dangerously complacent and will be your undoing.
@Preversive No. Next time you think of boarding a ship, you wait for it to come into YOUR territorial waters, and once it does you take action.
BUT you should bring tear gas, firehoses and similar to deal with the passenger, NOT sharp loaded guns.
You SHOULD act along the lines of international law and human rights, because I'm sure that if Israelis were the people under attack by a hostile army, they would claim those same rights. They too would want protection from the law.
OK, guys shot me using helicopters guns, come to kill me from the sky at the dark , and I will stand smiling, even I will not wave my hand in front of your lovely faces.!!!
Compare how "Israel" was less invasive in handling the situation of Rachel Corrie's ship. they became afraid of showing their ugly face to the whole world.
@Preversive We only have the Israeli spin doctors' word for that, and since they have confiscated all the video and photographic evidence that might settle the matter, we have no alternative but to make inferences from its absence. It's the Israeli government which is hiding the facts, wholesome hetero boy.
@fartybraindeath Lies, there is absolutly no evidence for it, if it was true, it must have been recorded by 1 of those 700 peace activest, they had teh intention to block the blockade or die for it, so isreal had a bad name, and they were singing religious songs about muhammed killing all jews on there way to Isreal.
@fartybraindeath yeah right, they destroyed all camera's and video's made by the activists.
They were warned by the Isreali's, weren't they? then why keep suppresing? they were seeking war, they were singing things like "Muhammed will come and kill all the jews" while on there way.
Your talking pure bullshit, and you're probably indoctrinated by your islamitic governement, feeling sorry for you bro! religion is sh~~
@MapleZalm I have tried to find evidence in credible media sources for the racist songs and I came up with nothing except an item in Newsmax which wasn't repeated even in other Murdoch media. They were not seeking war. They were delivering aid.
The fact that the Israelis warned them that they were going to be attacked by pirates, does not make the pirate attack legal.
Maybe you should unscramble your own brain and learn some basic media literacy before you accuse others of being indoctrinated.
@fartybraindeath With comments like this it would almost seem you could be both. But on a more serious note; are you really so naive that you think Israel has NOT suppressed evidence? How about, for instance, the fact that they confiscated all cameras from the activists? What sort of footage do you think they were afraid would leak out? Pretty sunsets from the flotilla cruise?
@tokisnoki why are you having a go at me? i'm on your side! read my comments again :D that said, it's a nice change to get a response from someone who's in touch with reality. you should see some of the private responses i've got. makes you think that there israel should bring in compulsory rabies vaccination for its citizens.
@15randomguy you are a whacko! How come israel forces that start the AGRESSION over a TURKISH (NATO MEMBER) vessel with MILITARY FORCE are again the good guys??? Oh poor them, they got beaten with a stick while attacking with fire power a ship in international waters....
@15randomguy They hijacked a ship in international waters. They did it with guns. It is alleged that the Israelis fired first, and since the Israeli government has so far failed to release the video and photographic evidence that might settle this, we can fairly safely assume that this is true.
Under international law, fighting off pirates with whatever objects you can find on deck is not considered to be excessive force. Is there a Zionist law of the sea which trumps international law?
Really, if the Israeli army footage is the only "proof" there is so far of the events onboard, I'd rather wait to listen to the accounts of the passengers before making up my mind. Israel has a nasty way of twisting the truth to make their own faults look as if they were their opponent's. I gather there will be no footage available from the passengers, seeing as how Israel confiscated all cameras. You can't hide the truth about what happened forever, Israel...
@tokisnoki Did you not see THIS footage? I know! It was trick photography! They wanted it to look this way. The Israelis had a camera with a number 38 lens in it, and several strategically placed octagonal mirrors.
The Arabs as usual,are full of shit and are unable to speak a word of truth.They are also unable to defeat a country the size of northern New Jersey with all their oil and megabillions of cash.With the help of the entire world and CNN, the Arab crybabies can only defeat Israel in a war of lies, bullshit, hatred and propaganda.
@haythereis Where exactly do you see Rocket launchers and Bunker busters in this clip. Even in Al- Jazira there was nothing of that sort. They boarded the ship with PAINTBALL Rifles and small personal guns for protection only.
@jackoftrades80 so the israeli spin doctors say that the guns were only for protection, and you automatically accept this as true. initially they also said that the flotilla was an al-qaeda operation, and then they dropped the idea. did you believe that temporarily and then stop believing it? being a zionist means either being a manipulative reptile or a trigger-happy fool.
@fartybraindeath I don't need to listen to the spin doctors, I watch the clip itself. I ask you the same question I asked before. Where are the rocket launchers and Bunker busters in the clip? And if they were still were used and are not in the clip then how come the flotilla did not sink? Stop calling people names and deal with the facts.
@jackoftrades80 And they didn't drop a tank division on the boat either. So fucking what? Guns are lethal weapons. What part of "bullet" and "hole in the head" do you not understand?
Bunker busters make big holes in things. You don't make big holes in things on a boat for what should be pretty obvious reasons.
And has it ever crossed your mind that the Israeli cabinet may have intentionally decided against rocket launchers because pinko arab-loving scum like me might complain about it?
@fartybraindeath Had you read the original post by your esteemed colleague "@haythereis", you would have seen his claims that the Israeli's came aboard with rocket launchers and Bunker busters. I'm glad that you agree with me that they were foundless accusations.
@jackoftrades80 Well there are little weapons and there are big weapons, and there are small lies and there are big lies. By far the biggest liar in all this is the State of Israel. It lies and it lies and it lies, and its lies kill thousands upon thousands of people and reduces millions of others to frustration and misery. All the excuses and red herrings in the world cannot change the fact of Israel's lies.
@fartybraindeath I am saddened to see you accuse your colleague from your own side of lying. I would rather see this as a mistake on his part. I am also saddened to see that instead of dabating the facts you have decided to stoop to gross generalizations. Instead of debating the facts you decided to talk about lies in general. That is not the conversation I was having and I am not willing to be drag into a general discussion. Stick to the facts or back your claims with concrete evidence.
@jackoftrades80 I did not mean to haythereis was lying. The fact that his apparent untruth was unintentional only underlines how outrageous Israel's lies are. So you want something specific? Israel claimed that the flotilla was an Al-Qaeda project. There is no evidence for this of and Israel all but admitted it was a lie when it dropped the accusation later on.
Anyone who says that the death of one or two Jews is a license to kill thousands of Arabs, as in 2009, is either a fool or a liar.
@fartybraindeath Now I'm totaly confused. I checked the Oxford dictionary and they define untruth as lies so do you claim that "haythereis" lied or made a mistake? If he lied as you claimed how exactly does it underlines Israel's supposed "outrageous" lies? Did I miss something and Israel claimed that they used Rocket launchers during their boarding?
Also I could not find any official claim to Al-Qaeda by the Israelies except by commentors. Could you please send me a link to an official report?
@jackoftrades80 I've had a look at haythereis's original comment. It is very obvious that he was referring to the overall military balance between the Zionists and the Palestinians.
Why don't you devote your energies to real critical thinking for a change, rather than to all this cynical pedantry and sophistry? Use your intellect to take responsibility for your actions, not to shirk it.
To all Israelis and their suporters in US, the terrorists were not on the ship. The real terrorists are all israelis who live in the arab occupied land in Palastine. Those terrorists who are killing women , children , and old men.
@ikamel56 And that i assume contrary to the HAMAS who fires missiles into Israeli civilian centers and then uses his own civilian population as human shields.
The fact that so called "peace" organization carry terrorists on board, and see nothing wrong in it, is an another proof for a need to stop and search foreign vessels, who try to penetrate the blockade. Israel can't allow weapons and explosives supply to hamas islamofascist swarm in Gaza.
@jbhjfdgdfrg Hmm, If Israel had "stopped and searched" the vessel - in their territorial waters- it would all have been alright. To perform an armed boarding on international waters, kill passengers and seize the vessel before illegaly bringing it into it's own territorial waters is a completely different thing. And by the way, did anyone find the arms that supposedly were going to Hamas? I didn't think so.
The fact that so called "peace" organization carry terrorists on board, and see nothing wrong in it, is an another proof for a need to stop and search foreign vessels, who try to penetrate the blockade. Israel can't allow weapons and explosives supply to hamas islamofascist swarm in Gaza.
The fact that so called "peace" organization carry terrorists on board, and see nothing wrong in it, is an another proof for a need to stop and search foreign vessels, who try to penetrate the blockade. Israel can't allow weapons and explosives supply to hamas islamofascist swarm in Gaza.
New York Times says that none of these films does not specify the stage of the Israeli attack, many activists say that the Israelis had fired tear gas and wounded who were on board the ship before the landing aid special forces, although the disposal of the active reaction.
@aaayyaaa you dont no shit about the middle east conflict so go smd. your "civilians" are civilians by day, hamas or w.e the fk they are by night. They hide weapons in residential areas so they can blame the israelis when they blow them up. your an idiot that doesnt know the real facts and just listens to the media. shut the fuck up. this was no peace flotilla, i have no problem with them receiving aid, but they cover up lies and blame it on israel to get away with it.
@AlionNoob Tell me, if the civil population on Gaza have no problems receiving aid, why do they live in such misery. Israel is trying to starve out Hamas with the blockade, but does so blindly, hitting all civilians too. Come on now, surely not all the 1,5 millons in the area are terrorists? At least not yet, but surely if Israel keeps treating them like animals, they will have no other choice.
@AlionNoob "your an idiot that doesnt know the real facts and just listens to the media. shut the fuck up."
So where do you get your info from then if you don't get it from the media? Are you telepathic or something.
I can tell you that I personally get my information from a lot of media sources, including the Israeli media, and I think hard about what I read and sometimes I change my mind about things. So who's the idiot then?
@EPHRAIM2000 So exactly how did at least 9 people die of bullet wounds if they were only shot with paintball guns?
If so many of the worlds greatest ever intellectual figures have been Jewish, why are so many zionists such narrow-minded irrational ideologically blinded retards?
@EPHRAIM2000 The word brainwash comes to mind whe I see your all-cap message. The Israelis shouldn't have been there in the first place. They claim war-laws, but Gaza is not a country, hence there is no war, ergo they had no right to enter those ships. As a consequence the Israeli boarding of the ships was nothing less than piracy. It's not about Jews-Muslims or Israelis-Palestinians; it's about international law, human rights and doing the right thing.
@keylin3 Rocket launchers SAMS bunker busters helicopters machine guns grenades nuclear warheads...................Oh no wait a minute!That was the Israelis. The other guys had knives and baseball bats.That was a reason to kill them.
@haythereis Where exactly do you see Rocket launchers and Bunker busters in this clip. Even in Al- Jazira there was nothing of that sort. They boarded the ship with PAINTBALL Rifles and small personal guns for protection only.
@jackoftrades80 And boy did they use them! The record of bulletwounds was impressive. Those elite soldiers must have been really badly threatened, seeing as how they wanted to make really, really sure the atackers died. How threatened do you think the unarmed activists must have felt when they were being shot at from fast tenders? Do you think that had anything to do with the fact that they tried to defend themselves?
@tokisnoki And unarmed they were. With lead pipes, slingshots and knives. I hope you saw the pictures that were shown today in the TURKISH newspapers of the "peace activists" wielding knives and attacking the boarding party. They throw one of the members of the landing party over the deck and he is still in critical condition.
@ygy20 It would seem in this case your statment is contradictory, as Israel does not have much truth in their statements in this mess. So you go ahead and chose, what do you want? Israel OR truth?
Israel will overcome. This is a preplanned provocation of the so called peacemakers. Where did all the money aid to Gaza go? To the bloody hands of Hamas
Im very surprised how the comments here are so much manipulated. I see tha hand of Israel trying to change the real truth. So many comments deleted.
But the truth is that they first shooted, then the soldiers jumped into the ship, in international waters. They try to defent. Well, I see those weapons so much dangerous for the poor soldiers with their guns, I see the kitchen knives, bars, bottles and stones. Israel have done very well, those weapons are very dangerous!
This is the lie, it was in international water so it is piricy. And this wouldn't of needed to happen if you crap israelies wouldn't kill innocent people and kill little girls for the hell of it. You people just disgust me. You know Palastine is the name for the country as israel hasn't been here for over one hundred years. You jews are just hobos
This is the lie, it was in international water so it is piricy. And this wouldn't of needed to happen if you crap israelies wouldn't kill innocent people and kill little girls for the hell of it. You people just discust me. You know Palastine is the name for the country as israel hasn't been here for over one hundred years. You jews are just hobos
@sedatcelebis i live in Israel. I served in the israeli army and i know much better than you whats going on. Hamas, Al Qaeda, Iran and now Turkey want the whole world to be muslim. Hamas does not recognize the 7 millions citizens of israel right to exist ( 1 million equal rights arabs among us).
Israel proposed several times to send the aid through the land but the organizers ( that have known links to Al Qaeda btw) just wanted to make provocation and not aid the palestinians.
@asdfqwer1950 By the same reasoning, the people who live in Gaza know a whole lot more about what is going on in Gaza than you do, which in their case, in contrast to the one you have just presented, is true. You seem to think that serving your time as a grunt and rote-learning your catechism from deranged tank commanders makes you a great political scientist.
@asdfqwer1950 The Hamas charter dates from 1984. Hamas has become much more pragmatic since then, as your government well knows. The Hamas position is that it does not recognise the right of Israel to exist, but it also says that it is states, not parties that make such decisions. What this means is that it at least recognises Israel's de facto existence and is open to finding an accommodation. And don't insult the people of Gaza by telling them that they're not in prison.
@fartybraindeath By pragmatic you mean they stopped sending poor kids to blow themself up inside civilians buses?
They still believe that they should use any means necessary to enforce islamic law all over the middle east. We all like our democracy in israel. We have muslims christians and jews citizens living happily together.
Look what happened to iran and turkey. We do not want to end up a muslim country.
asdfqwer1950 Well let's look at the body count over the last couple of years, shall we? I believe it is something like Hamas 20/30, Israel 1400+, mostly non-combatants. But of course we have to factor into the equation that every time Hamas kills anyone it is Hamas's responsibility, and every time Israel kills anyone, that is also Hamas's responsibility. So that makes it 1425:0. But then Palestinians are inhuman scum to you, so that actually lets Hamas off the hook a little - 25:0.
Its as simple as googling the terrorist name and you can see him preparing for martydom in a terrorist organizations website. Its much easier to demonize Israel.
Check out hamas on wikipedia. See the racist nazi-like propaganda in their charter and tell me they seek peace.
Their written aspiration is to kill all jews, even ones that "hide behind trees & stones" is disgrace to human kind.
@asdfqwer1950 According to B'Tselem, 770 out of the 1400 killed were non-combatants, but then B'Tselem are just a bunch of self-hating Jews so you can't trust them like you can trust a rabid Zionist web site. But say the figure really were "only" 300. Compare that to the number of Israeli civilians killed in Hamas attacks, which you could count on your fingers after a lifetime working in a sawmill.
Your view of Hamas is the kind one would form after reading nothing but rabid Zionist web sites.
@asdfqwer1950 To be honest I haven't bothered with the video. I prefer to find reliable sources of information. Apparently there have been no official Israeli statistics, but the OCHA concludes a significant proportion of civilian casualties, of which at least 333 children. is DOT gd SLASH cH7dR
Basically Zionism is a form of narcissism. Superficially it is about "Us! Us! Us!" but really it is about "Me! Me! Me!" with complete indifference to how others might feel. It is pathetic and infantile.
Much as I deplore the burka ban here in Belgium, I am much happier about it than I would be if the army attacked Moroccan families with white phosphorus.
"Israel is always judged under different standarts" mainly because the United States vetoes any action that would hold you to account.
I've just googled "zionism narcissism". 300k+ results. So I'm not the only one. I suggest you read up on narcissism because I'm bored of going round in circles.
@fartybraindeath You only doubt the sources that affect your personal view, thats selecting information you want to see this is of course also a lie; watch?v=YIBNRVgq59Y OR watch?v=7_OGhj43GAE
@arievanscholten It was either Ben Gurion or Chaim Herzog who said that anyone who thinks that Zionism is a moral matter has not understood it. Since Zionism is simply a depraved game of dog-eat-dog, it is not surprising that there is a long history of Zionist "news" sources lying. Since the Israeli govt hasn't produced any figures, where did they get them from? Rather than wasting my time I decided that the UN was a more reliable source than a frothing racist with an eye for a quick shekel.
@asdfqwer1950 "Israel proposed several times to send the aid through the land" does someone else actually tell you this kind of wild nonsense, or do you just sit at home and make it up for yourself?
@asdfqwer1950 Well obviously nearly every nation on earth and a whole raft of very well-trusted NGOs, and internationally renowned human rights activists are completely wrong then. Indeed the very moment that the saintly Bibi Netanyahu opens his saintly mouth people like Desmond Tutu and Mairead Corrigan are exposed for the cowardly and worthless liars they are. Maybe I should convert to Judaism and move to Israel so I will no longer have to live with such devious goyim scum.
@fartybraindeath Their failing economy is direct result of the relentless jihad war they started with israel. Gaza economy was much stronger when the palestinian authority was in charge. Hamas murdered all its opponents and took over. They hang in sqaures any man who will stand against them.
Why don't you care about hundreds palestinians killed by hamas regime?
@asdfqwer1950 The Gaza economy is a wreck because it is blockaded and because even before that, and way before Israel engineered the rise of Hamas, it was already very hard for Gazans to get past the checkpoints to go to jobs in Israel. The way you zionists shirk responsibility for all the suffering you have caused, including the 1400 massacred last year, is beyond despicable.
If there were a massacre in a distant galaxy Israel wouldn't be to blame for that either but so fucking what?
@fartybraindeath i think 3000 rockets on civilians is enough reason for any country to go to war. With any other counry the casulties would have been 140,000.
Why don't you take the gazans and give them jobs. Since when our work visa regulations is world's problem? I personally can't go to any country i want to work there and so can't they.
Why don't egypt let them in?
Maybe they don't want illiterate radical islamic mob trying to make them the next iran.
@asdfqwer1950 One could also say (but only if one were a disgusting anti-Semitic cockroach like Noam Chomsky or Norman Finkelstein) that the atrocities that paved the way for the creation of the state of Israel such as the Deir Yassin massacre, the King David Hotel bombing and then the ethnic cleansing of more than half the country might be considered a viable casus belli.
Gazans are not allowed to leave the territory even to go to hospital, so no visas.
@asdfqwer1950 In my last comment I accidentally implied that Chomsky or Finkelstein might actually endorse such a war, which they would absolutely never do.
@asdfqwer1950 If your fantasy really did come true and the Gazans upped sticks and left en masse as a result of the blockade etc, this would under international law be a clear case of genocide. Of course it wouldn't be genocide under Zionist law because all non-Jews are expendable non-persons, but those pesky human rights lawyers don't seem to understand that.
@fartybraindeath They initiate conflicts by claiming israel should not exist and seeking its destruction. They make it a zero-sum situation. They will not take our homeland from us and make it a muslim hell. About 25% of israeli citizens are non-jews and live happily.
You are confusing genocide with armed conflict.
Armenians did not fire thousands missiles into turkey.
1.5 million armenians were killed because they had "wrong" ethnicity.
@asdfqwer1950 You are punishing an entire civilian population for the crimes of individuals. That is a war crime. If through that punishment you drive that people out so that it disperses and loses its identity, that is genocide. International law is very clear on that.
So the Warsaw Ghetto took up arms, thus justifying the Holocaust.
"About 25% of israeli citizens are non-jews and live happily." Get real. Arabs can't even get planning permission for a kitchen extension because of racism.
@asdfqwer1950 Israel has a better standard of living because it gets ridiculous amounts of US aid and because it pillages land and natural resources from the people under its occupation. The great democracy never granted rights to the people under its occupation, only reluctantly agreeing to create bantustans that were not economically viable on their own, and then preventing their residents from going to Israel to work. Now stop being such a whining narcissist and open your eyes.
@fartybraindeath 3 billion aid a year is something like 400$ a citizen. It will not make us rich. anyway we spend it on aircraft and missile protection from ahmadinejad that expressed its wish to destroy us.
You are wrong. Israel have no natural resources. that rocky land does not produce any money.
Why doesn't US give all iraqis/afghans a US citizenship?
they are under occupation don't they?
must Israel be judged with higher standards then the rest of the world?
@asdfqwer1950 The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are atrocities and world public opinion opposed and continues to oppose them. Israel itself was full behind those wars and therefore shares the guilt.
Israel, the WB and Gaza are not 1000s km apart. They are really part of the same territory, carved up in a very one-sided way. It is only just that all people of the region should have full citizenship of a single state. It is primarily your narcissistic paranoia that prevents any rapprochement.
Fuck Palestine! Their peoples don't deserve any foods! Block them all! As long as Hamas is running the show then Israel should show no MERCY! Let me remind to all you condemning Israel! This is the same Palestinians that burn and stomp on the U.S. flag after 9/11! HAHAHA they don't give a shit about the West nor do we going to give a shit about them! Fuck them all to hell!
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zobielamouche1 2 months ago
this video is a crock of shit. Its funny how Israel produced edited versions of video's, took away camera's etc from the peace activists. I wonder what they want to hide.Israel murdered those turks and we will never forget. We saved 150, 000 jews from the spanish, encouraged jewish migration to palestine inthe early 1800's and this is how they repay us. Israel is the most powerful country in the world, but they fucked us and we will never forget. U may have stopped a boat, but u sunk an ally.
namishrean 1 year ago
@namishrean let me tell you one thing .
In France, we was occupied by the nazi , and thus under control of these barbaric invaders during the time1940-1944 . Many Frenchs were resistants ( my own family included ) and saved Jews .........
But now, a lot of Israelis, a lot of zionists and some Jews hate the Frenchs because of the nazi occupation, and trust me, in their elites circles, the retaliation against France and the French is a planed reality .
FrenchPropagandaV1RR 1 year ago
@FrenchPropagandaV1RR I applaud your family for fighting back. It is truly something to be proud of. However Im not sure of your point. R u trying to say that the ottomans ruled over the jews? R u saying the ottomans ruled jewish territories and now bc of that the jews hate the turks even though we saved 150, 000 of them from spain?
namishrean 1 year ago
You guys need to open a Koran and read it for yourself. It is loaded with anti-semitism and anti-christian racism. It a religion founded out of hate. Read the history behind Islam. It has a long history of gynocide. Stop believing everything Muslims and the media tell you and educate yourselves. Islam has all ways been the largest propaganda machine in the world.
456882 1 year ago
may i ask something? who is taking this video? the zionis right? of course they want to blame the activis, i know its wrong for the activis to attack the soldier, but think yourself, who doesn't want to protect themselves? for sure, if you were there to in the ship, you also will be afraid and beat them, but for sure, you didn't have a gun to shoot them, you just can used a pole to defend yourself, and one more thing, they attack not at their territory, so they are just like the pirates.
yn94 1 year ago
@yn94
If a police officer shows up at your doorstep with a legal warrant
to search your house, you may want to protect yourself
with a pole, but it is not that smart.
International waters does not give ANY protection against search
during a blockade. As soon as it can be established that the
ship is planning to break the blockade, the search can take
place - UNLESS the ship is in the territorial waters of a neutral nation.
Read the San Remo agreement, instead of blabbering without knowledge.
APRichelieu 1 year ago
@princessevenly Yes it is edited princeevenly. Israelis put out a video (conveniently) within hours after the murders. Infact, what they didn't show in this video is how they killed people first from air, before they came on board. That is why the activists were defending themselves. Thereare alot of testimonies of the passengers on YT.
61talya 1 year ago
@Preversive
yes, it is absolutely a bullshit! when & where did it happen? do not agitate people and tell us where and when the genocide happened???
sedatcelebis 1 year ago
off course....and 9/11 is an Israeli conspiracy ,ihh didnt organize 40 pepole with walkie-talkies to wait to attack idf (with flowers - not knifes), ihh personal wasn't raided by Turkish government in Istanbul finding weapons propaganda, manual to build a bomb...etc.,ihh achmad vasin wasnt arrested in dec. 1999 millennium planning a suicide bomb attack, the captain lied about asking ihh stop organizing an attack, navy wasn't asking them to check cargo - and refused.holocaust didnt happen...sure
mor29il 1 year ago
wake the fuck up! open ur eyes u cant realy argue with facts..all of these did happen!
mor29il 1 year ago
"Violence against Navy soldiers" - Errrrr, well if armed soldiers force their way onto a boat what else do they expect? Flowers and a cup of tea....?!
xiphiron 1 year ago
@xiphiron Errr, well then, if four "Peaceful activists" beat down to death a soldier lying on the ground with chains, clubs and knives what should they expect? More flowers? A polite "Please stop that" ?
frken5 1 year ago
@xiphiron flowers would be nice...not refusel to check cargo
if nothing was there to hide
go check ur facts, images,ihh background...etc..
wake up!
mor29il 1 year ago
Israeli military admits it doctored audio recordings and inserted anti-Semitic comments watch?v=zFMfaI_A8lk
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
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Do not lift the blockade! Lifting blockade will cause another hamas-Israeli war. Think what would happen with palestinian ppl. They will be abused by hamas again. Their homes would turn into shelters of hamas terrorists, their bodies would be used as human shields for hamas pigs! If you really care about palestinian ppl - DO NOT LIFT THE BLOCKADE!!!! BLOCKADE IS EFFECTIVE AND IT SAVES LIFES FROM BOTH SIDES!!!!!
jbhjfdgdfrg 1 year ago
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Blockade is effective and it saves lifes! Since its establishing Hamas is no longer able to receive and launch the most dangerous and precise rockets - GRADs. Residents of Israeli, previously bombarded, cities like Sderot feel a huge relief! Israel is not against palestinian ppl! Israel sends for palestinian ppl in Gaza thousands of tons of humanitarian aid. If ppl in Gaza starving, its not Israel fault, its because of hamas which makes artificial shortages of supply.
jbhjfdgdfrg 1 year ago
@jbhjfdgdfrg Could whoever is marking pro-Israeli comments as spam please stop it. That's not what the spam button's for, even if the comments are as stone-hearted and idiotic as this one.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
There is no Israeli 'the average Joshua' that comes out on the internet to bitch . only the i-don't-eat-meat-and-i-just-gratuated-passifist needs to go on an ego trip to Gaza. To contact 'reality' But in general these situations itches every media-anti-zionist and turn their world upside down as a binairy on and off button. Not because they are connected to the conflict but for different reasons. They all share one thing, which is to remain muted on Hamas or the bigger picture sideline martyrs
arievanscholten 1 year ago
@arievanscholten Rabid Zionists are hardly in a position to criticise anyone else for having an extremely polarised view of the world.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
"They had already opened fire with what I thought to be rubberized bullets... They have a steel core... and can themselves can be lethal. But almost immediately, we heard the different noise of live rounds being fired--but not indiscriminately or wildly. Rather, it was carefully targeted from both sides of the ship--which was surrounded--from the helicopter, and from those Israeli attack forces who were landing on the ship itself." s DOT gd SLASH cGz1S
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
"Israeli attack dinghies, called Zodiacs, moved up very quickly on the side of the boat. They were carrying fully armed Special Forces--full commando attack units.
By fully armed, I mean something like five pieces of firepower or knives--rifles, sidearms, commando knives, balaclava-covered faces, Kevlar helmets and so on. In other words, something akin to the U.S. Navy Seals people see in the movies in a glamorized way." is DOT gd SLASH cGz1S
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
"It began with percussion grenades. They are an explosive, and they can injure people badly when they go off next to them. They were designed to create panic, which itself is an extremely reckless and violent act when you consider that this was a civilian passenger ship carrying over 500 people from 32 different nationalities." is DOT gd SLASH cGz1S
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
Let's just say both parties are bad and mean, now all go home.
Preversive 1 year ago
@jonnytonga I'd put on your tinfoil hat if I were you so that we can't zap you with our secret anti-Semitic ray gun hat all the top goyim physicists from all across the world have been working on.
By your "efforts to survive" you mean your efforts to die because nothing who so arrogantly and recklessly makes enemies as Israel does has a future. But maybe your tinfoil hat will protect you from that too.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
asdfqwer1950 Dear Friend;
As Turks we saved a lot of Jewish people as you know in the history. From Spain with ships, from Germany by giving them Turkish Passports & citizenships...
even there are a lot of thank you letters are sent by David Ben Gurion...
Is it your way to say thank you by killing our citizens & supporting the terrorist group PKK? you can google about PKK
sedatcelebis 1 year ago
@sedatcelebis Wait, and genocide of jewish people in Turkey (which occured a LOT) is now total bullshit?
Preversive 1 year ago
THIS IS PIRACY AND MURDER......israel is a rasist and ceiminal state.....ANYONE KNOWS THAT....ANYONE BUT THE ISRAELY NAZIS.....
paganpoet3 1 year ago
@paganpoet3 Oh, caps...then you must be right
arievanscholten 1 year ago
@paganpoet3 ISREALY NAZIS right.
Someone has to history, since the nazi's were anti-jewish right...
MapleZalm 1 year ago
@MapleZalm it is obvious that many people commenting here consider the arabs to be cockroaches, i.e. untermenschen. eretz israel, expelling the palestinians to make room for jews is about lebensraum. zionism is in origin a european racist nationalism. israel got very cosy with nazi-lover vorster of south africa. israel is implementing apartheid. myself i wouldn't have chosen to use that particular n-word, but it's an entirely valid comparison.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath It might be a rude question but how dare you to try making an opinion and try to precieve this conflict from a western perspective. personaly i wouldn't dare to cross that line. You can only think in images of death people, walls, and superiour forces and victims, i wouldn't call that daily reality How can you compair history with the presence? the world is changing, and is facing new dilemmas that can't be summerized in a comparison of history archived by the internet
arievanscholten 1 year ago
@arievanscholten The word "reason" comes from the Latin "ratio", meaning a measure. To measure means to compare one thing with another. Zionism refuses to measure. It says that the death of a Jew is fundamentally different from the death of a Palestinian and that therefore to compare them is a category error. To compare the Holocaust to any other historical event is heresy. All sense of proportion (ratio) is lost and the result is insanity and carnage.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Genocide is only possible when humans are painted as animals. The same doctrine that was forcefed under Hitlers command. And today spoken words by Ahmadinejad What fundamental difference is there between the palestinian people and members of the Hamas? It is all over the news when a jew kills a muslim or a muslim kills a jew. But what happens when a muslim kills a muslim ?
arievanscholten 1 year ago
@arievanscholten It is very clear from most of the comments being left here, as well as from the rabid private messages I have received, that Palestinians are widely regarded as vermin among Israeli Jews. It is also obvious that this attitude goes to the top. The personal conduct of the loathesome Ariel Sharon towards Palestinians was particularly notorious. So yes, that is one condition for genocide that has clearly been met. I don't understand the rest of your post.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
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aoeaoae 1 year ago
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Israel is dragging the entire world to to a NUCLEAR WAR. Say NO to Israel, protect yourself and your families
zarafehzarafeh1 1 year ago
Israel is dragging the entire world to to a NUCLEAR WAR. Say NO to Israel, protect yourself and your families
zarafehzarafeh1 1 year ago
@zarafehzarafeh1 HAHAHHAHAAHA.
Just a couple nukes on those "peace activists" and it's over.
If it's Isreal vs. Arabic world, Isreal would 100% win,
Preversive 1 year ago
@Preversive It is the arab world against the west, every strike on Israel is a strike on the west
arievanscholten 1 year ago
@arievanscholten Which would directly mean a victory for the western world with weaponary and pure menpower
MapleZalm 1 year ago
@MapleZalm If menpower and weaponary were represented by both sides yes, But unfortunatly radical islamic regimes such as Iran and Hamas, are using weapons of mass media. watch?v=7_OGhj43GAE
arievanscholten 1 year ago
@arievanscholten Every crime and atrocity by Israel is a stain on the honour of the West, which has protected Israel from having to face the consequences of its own actions.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath I don't think people are getting killed for the sake of honour.
arievanscholten 1 year ago
@arievanscholten What I mean is that the West has dishonoured itself when it has supported Zionist aggression while claiming to uphold universalist liberal values. Certainly honour has nothing to do with the pitiful dog-eat-dog rationale of Zionist violence.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Instead of correcting your point and upgrading your super latives, prehaps you can respond on the content of my comment. Even if you are an anti zionist we both know that this provocation is part of a political game of chess. While we are all focusing on this event and expressing our opinions about it on the streets and the internet something else is kickstarted what is actualy Turkeys intrest in breaking alliance with Israel, and what is Egypts position in these dynamics? Iran?
arievanscholten 1 year ago
@Preversive From the look of things it's Israel vs the human rights, laws of war, international laws and treaties as well as the entire world. The Israeli state and it's twisted logic has gone too far. The world needs to protect itself against such arrogant breaches of all that is right and fair.
tokisnoki 1 year ago
@tokisnoki Israel now faces the stark choice between trying to remain he chosen people and rejoining the rest of us scum in the human race. I can say, hand on heart, that I am proud to be common human scum because a lot of common human scum like us value our common humanity.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@Preversive Which is really what it's all about. Whenever your shiny faced people in suits mouth off saying "We will not giving in to terrorism" what they really mean is "We will not give in to anyone militarily weaker than us." Such thinking is callous and depraved. It is also dangerously complacent and will be your undoing.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
Faggots, the isreali's should have blown the boats
Preversive 1 year ago
@Preversive Aren't you a feisty one! Violence will never solve the problem, have you not learnt anything from history? You did take history, no?
tokisnoki 1 year ago
@tokisnoki So yeah, next time I board a ship, i'll go first and get beated to shit by a bunch of "peace activists"
Preversive 1 year ago
@Preversive No. Next time you think of boarding a ship, you wait for it to come into YOUR territorial waters, and once it does you take action.
BUT you should bring tear gas, firehoses and similar to deal with the passenger, NOT sharp loaded guns.
You SHOULD act along the lines of international law and human rights, because I'm sure that if Israelis were the people under attack by a hostile army, they would claim those same rights. They too would want protection from the law.
tokisnoki 1 year ago
OK, guys shot me using helicopters guns, come to kill me from the sky at the dark , and I will stand smiling, even I will not wave my hand in front of your lovely faces.!!!
Compare how "Israel" was less invasive in handling the situation of Rachel Corrie's ship. they became afraid of showing their ugly face to the whole world.
mogomogo1230 1 year ago
@mogomogo1230 There was no fire from isrealian side before the first attack.
You fag, don't hide facts.
Preversive 1 year ago
@Preversive We only have the Israeli spin doctors' word for that, and since they have confiscated all the video and photographic evidence that might settle the matter, we have no alternative but to make inferences from its absence. It's the Israeli government which is hiding the facts, wholesome hetero boy.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Lies, there is absolutly no evidence for it, if it was true, it must have been recorded by 1 of those 700 peace activest, they had teh intention to block the blockade or die for it, so isreal had a bad name, and they were singing religious songs about muhammed killing all jews on there way to Isreal.
Preversive 1 year ago
@Preversive Of course there is no evidence if the Israeli government has suppressed all the evidence. I'd rather be a fag than a moron.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath yeah right, they destroyed all camera's and video's made by the activists.
They were warned by the Isreali's, weren't they? then why keep suppresing? they were seeking war, they were singing things like "Muhammed will come and kill all the jews" while on there way.
Your talking pure bullshit, and you're probably indoctrinated by your islamitic governement, feeling sorry for you bro! religion is sh~~
MapleZalm 1 year ago
@MapleZalm I have tried to find evidence in credible media sources for the racist songs and I came up with nothing except an item in Newsmax which wasn't repeated even in other Murdoch media. They were not seeking war. They were delivering aid.
The fact that the Israelis warned them that they were going to be attacked by pirates, does not make the pirate attack legal.
Maybe you should unscramble your own brain and learn some basic media literacy before you accuse others of being indoctrinated.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath watch?v=yNwsut8Dkbg
Watch that my friend, and see, who is being lied to?
Preversive 1 year ago
@Preversive Let's see something from a credible source, shall we?
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath With comments like this it would almost seem you could be both. But on a more serious note; are you really so naive that you think Israel has NOT suppressed evidence? How about, for instance, the fact that they confiscated all cameras from the activists? What sort of footage do you think they were afraid would leak out? Pretty sunsets from the flotilla cruise?
tokisnoki 1 year ago
@tokisnoki why are you having a go at me? i'm on your side! read my comments again :D that said, it's a nice change to get a response from someone who's in touch with reality. you should see some of the private responses i've got. makes you think that there israel should bring in compulsory rabies vaccination for its citizens.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Ooops, freightfully sorry 'bout that ol' chap. Guess I got a bit over excited there...
tokisnoki 1 year ago
@Preversive Oh, you were there?
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mogomogo1230 1 year ago
sink that fucking shit ship
darkguard24 1 year ago
israelis...they are jewsss who were a murderer and a killer of the people of palestinian and a laknaktullah.......laknatullah....laknatullah
mohamadiniaz 1 year ago
@15randomguy you are a whacko! How come israel forces that start the AGRESSION over a TURKISH (NATO MEMBER) vessel with MILITARY FORCE are again the good guys??? Oh poor them, they got beaten with a stick while attacking with fire power a ship in international waters....
ISRAEL PRACTICES STATE TERRORISM!!!
brakaduun 1 year ago
@industryisgood how is israel terrorists if theyre the ones that got beaten up by terrorists
15randomguy 1 year ago
@15randomguy laknatullah
mohamadiniaz 1 year ago
@15randomguy They hijacked a ship in international waters. They did it with guns. It is alleged that the Israelis fired first, and since the Israeli government has so far failed to release the video and photographic evidence that might settle this, we can fairly safely assume that this is true.
Under international law, fighting off pirates with whatever objects you can find on deck is not considered to be excessive force. Is there a Zionist law of the sea which trumps international law?
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
why doesnt barrack obama send more troops in or do something about it?????
15randomguy 1 year ago
Really, if the Israeli army footage is the only "proof" there is so far of the events onboard, I'd rather wait to listen to the accounts of the passengers before making up my mind. Israel has a nasty way of twisting the truth to make their own faults look as if they were their opponent's. I gather there will be no footage available from the passengers, seeing as how Israel confiscated all cameras. You can't hide the truth about what happened forever, Israel...
tokisnoki 1 year ago
@tokisnoki Did you not see THIS footage? I know! It was trick photography! They wanted it to look this way. The Israelis had a camera with a number 38 lens in it, and several strategically placed octagonal mirrors.
elpilotoazul 1 year ago
The Arabs as usual,are full of shit and are unable to speak a word of truth.They are also unable to defeat a country the size of northern New Jersey with all their oil and megabillions of cash.With the help of the entire world and CNN, the Arab crybabies can only defeat Israel in a war of lies, bullshit, hatred and propaganda.
YitzO 1 year ago
@YitzO exactly, arabs lie with their bullshit.
AlionNoob 1 year ago
@haythereis Where exactly do you see Rocket launchers and Bunker busters in this clip. Even in Al- Jazira there was nothing of that sort. They boarded the ship with PAINTBALL Rifles and small personal guns for protection only.
jackoftrades80 1 year ago
@jackoftrades80 so the israeli spin doctors say that the guns were only for protection, and you automatically accept this as true. initially they also said that the flotilla was an al-qaeda operation, and then they dropped the idea. did you believe that temporarily and then stop believing it? being a zionist means either being a manipulative reptile or a trigger-happy fool.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath I don't need to listen to the spin doctors, I watch the clip itself. I ask you the same question I asked before. Where are the rocket launchers and Bunker busters in the clip? And if they were still were used and are not in the clip then how come the flotilla did not sink? Stop calling people names and deal with the facts.
jackoftrades80 1 year ago
@jackoftrades80 And they didn't drop a tank division on the boat either. So fucking what? Guns are lethal weapons. What part of "bullet" and "hole in the head" do you not understand?
Bunker busters make big holes in things. You don't make big holes in things on a boat for what should be pretty obvious reasons.
And has it ever crossed your mind that the Israeli cabinet may have intentionally decided against rocket launchers because pinko arab-loving scum like me might complain about it?
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Had you read the original post by your esteemed colleague "@haythereis", you would have seen his claims that the Israeli's came aboard with rocket launchers and Bunker busters. I'm glad that you agree with me that they were foundless accusations.
jackoftrades80 1 year ago
@jackoftrades80 Well there are little weapons and there are big weapons, and there are small lies and there are big lies. By far the biggest liar in all this is the State of Israel. It lies and it lies and it lies, and its lies kill thousands upon thousands of people and reduces millions of others to frustration and misery. All the excuses and red herrings in the world cannot change the fact of Israel's lies.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath I am saddened to see you accuse your colleague from your own side of lying. I would rather see this as a mistake on his part. I am also saddened to see that instead of dabating the facts you have decided to stoop to gross generalizations. Instead of debating the facts you decided to talk about lies in general. That is not the conversation I was having and I am not willing to be drag into a general discussion. Stick to the facts or back your claims with concrete evidence.
jackoftrades80 1 year ago
@jackoftrades80 I did not mean to haythereis was lying. The fact that his apparent untruth was unintentional only underlines how outrageous Israel's lies are. So you want something specific? Israel claimed that the flotilla was an Al-Qaeda project. There is no evidence for this of and Israel all but admitted it was a lie when it dropped the accusation later on.
Anyone who says that the death of one or two Jews is a license to kill thousands of Arabs, as in 2009, is either a fool or a liar.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Now I'm totaly confused. I checked the Oxford dictionary and they define untruth as lies so do you claim that "haythereis" lied or made a mistake? If he lied as you claimed how exactly does it underlines Israel's supposed "outrageous" lies? Did I miss something and Israel claimed that they used Rocket launchers during their boarding?
Also I could not find any official claim to Al-Qaeda by the Israelies except by commentors. Could you please send me a link to an official report?
jackoftrades80 1 year ago
@jackoftrades80 I've had a look at haythereis's original comment. It is very obvious that he was referring to the overall military balance between the Zionists and the Palestinians.
Why don't you devote your energies to real critical thinking for a change, rather than to all this cynical pedantry and sophistry? Use your intellect to take responsibility for your actions, not to shirk it.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
To all Israelis and their suporters in US, the terrorists were not on the ship. The real terrorists are all israelis who live in the arab occupied land in Palastine. Those terrorists who are killing women , children , and old men.
ikamel56 1 year ago
@ikamel56 do you eve know what you talking about?! you think your so smart, but you wrong!!
if you want to know the truth, serche a littl bit on the websites, and you'll see that the israelis were in "cnaan lend" first!!
Palastine is a creation of the palastins!!
noambenda 1 year ago
@ikamel56 And that i assume contrary to the HAMAS who fires missiles into Israeli civilian centers and then uses his own civilian population as human shields.
jackoftrades80 1 year ago
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The fact that so called "peace" organization carry terrorists on board, and see nothing wrong in it, is an another proof for a need to stop and search foreign vessels, who try to penetrate the blockade. Israel can't allow weapons and explosives supply to hamas islamofascist swarm in Gaza.
jbhjfdgdfrg 1 year ago
@jbhjfdgdfrg Hmm, If Israel had "stopped and searched" the vessel - in their territorial waters- it would all have been alright. To perform an armed boarding on international waters, kill passengers and seize the vessel before illegaly bringing it into it's own territorial waters is a completely different thing. And by the way, did anyone find the arms that supposedly were going to Hamas? I didn't think so.
tokisnoki 1 year ago
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The fact that so called "peace" organization carry terrorists on board, and see nothing wrong in it, is an another proof for a need to stop and search foreign vessels, who try to penetrate the blockade. Israel can't allow weapons and explosives supply to hamas islamofascist swarm in Gaza.
jbhjfdgdfrg 1 year ago
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The fact that so called "peace" organization carry terrorists on board, and see nothing wrong in it, is an another proof for a need to stop and search foreign vessels, who try to penetrate the blockade. Israel can't allow weapons and explosives supply to hamas islamofascist swarm in Gaza.
jbhjfdgdfrg 1 year ago
New York Times says that none of these films does not specify the stage of the Israeli attack, many activists say that the Israelis had fired tear gas and wounded who were on board the ship before the landing aid special forces, although the disposal of the active reaction.
morphilo 1 year ago
/watch?v=-qwLjzZZRqk
barportnoy 1 year ago
then fuck you alionnoob and fuck your mama to
if there is a terrorists in the world they will be you . america .isreal and me
me because that when i will meet you i will cut your head
fuck you
the world wont be understand the real story.
you make me go crazy
so shut the fuck up
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aaayyaaa 1 year ago
@aaayyaaa you dont no shit about the middle east conflict so go smd. your "civilians" are civilians by day, hamas or w.e the fk they are by night. They hide weapons in residential areas so they can blame the israelis when they blow them up. your an idiot that doesnt know the real facts and just listens to the media. shut the fuck up. this was no peace flotilla, i have no problem with them receiving aid, but they cover up lies and blame it on israel to get away with it.
AlionNoob 1 year ago
@AlionNoob Tell me, if the civil population on Gaza have no problems receiving aid, why do they live in such misery. Israel is trying to starve out Hamas with the blockade, but does so blindly, hitting all civilians too. Come on now, surely not all the 1,5 millons in the area are terrorists? At least not yet, but surely if Israel keeps treating them like animals, they will have no other choice.
tokisnoki 1 year ago
@AlionNoob "your an idiot that doesnt know the real facts and just listens to the media. shut the fuck up."
So where do you get your info from then if you don't get it from the media? Are you telepathic or something.
I can tell you that I personally get my information from a lot of media sources, including the Israeli media, and I think hard about what I read and sometimes I change my mind about things. So who's the idiot then?
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
THE BLOODY FANATIC ARABS TRIED TO MURDER THE SOLDIERS WHO CAME WITH ONLY PAINTBALL GUNS
EPHRAIM2000 1 year ago
@EPHRAIM2000 So exactly how did at least 9 people die of bullet wounds if they were only shot with paintball guns?
If so many of the worlds greatest ever intellectual figures have been Jewish, why are so many zionists such narrow-minded irrational ideologically blinded retards?
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
THE BLOODY FANATIC ARABS TRIED TO MURDER THE SOLDIERS WHO CAME WITH ONLY PAINTBALL GUNS
EPHRAIM2000 1 year ago
THE BLOODY FANATIC ARAB TRIED TO MURDER THE SOLDIERS WHO CAME WITH ONLY PAINTBALL GUNS
EPHRAIM2000 1 year ago
@EPHRAIM2000 The word brainwash comes to mind whe I see your all-cap message. The Israelis shouldn't have been there in the first place. They claim war-laws, but Gaza is not a country, hence there is no war, ergo they had no right to enter those ships. As a consequence the Israeli boarding of the ships was nothing less than piracy. It's not about Jews-Muslims or Israelis-Palestinians; it's about international law, human rights and doing the right thing.
tokisnoki 1 year ago
Free Kurdistan!
Laborer7 1 year ago
You Guyz think you are so smart..... watch that and see what was the Terrorists real plan =_=.... they had there so many weapons.....
youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&feature=popular&v=JvS9PXZ3RWM
keylin3 1 year ago 12
@keylin3 Rocket launchers SAMS bunker busters helicopters machine guns grenades nuclear warheads...................Oh no wait a minute!That was the Israelis. The other guys had knives and baseball bats.That was a reason to kill them.
haythereis 1 year ago
@haythereis Where exactly do you see Rocket launchers and Bunker busters in this clip. Even in Al- Jazira there was nothing of that sort. They boarded the ship with PAINTBALL Rifles and small personal guns for protection only.
jackoftrades80 1 year ago
@jackoftrades80 And boy did they use them! The record of bulletwounds was impressive. Those elite soldiers must have been really badly threatened, seeing as how they wanted to make really, really sure the atackers died. How threatened do you think the unarmed activists must have felt when they were being shot at from fast tenders? Do you think that had anything to do with the fact that they tried to defend themselves?
tokisnoki 1 year ago
@tokisnoki And unarmed they were. With lead pipes, slingshots and knives. I hope you saw the pictures that were shown today in the TURKISH newspapers of the "peace activists" wielding knives and attacking the boarding party. They throw one of the members of the landing party over the deck and he is still in critical condition.
jackoftrades80 1 year ago
There were fucking terrorists!!!!!
I stand with Israel and with the truth!
ygy20 1 year ago
@ygy20 It would seem in this case your statment is contradictory, as Israel does not have much truth in their statements in this mess. So you go ahead and chose, what do you want? Israel OR truth?
tokisnoki 1 year ago
all of them are terrorists they all should b killed!
MsSnowZ 1 year ago
Israel will overcome. This is a preplanned provocation of the so called peacemakers. Where did all the money aid to Gaza go? To the bloody hands of Hamas
leonidpel 1 year ago
Indeed: Peace activists in activity...
When people don't want to hear the truth I guess even video footage won't make a difference.
You've definitely won this round with the media but your whole story is built over lies, eventually it won't stick.
mishakapisha1 1 year ago 2
Im very surprised how the comments here are so much manipulated. I see tha hand of Israel trying to change the real truth. So many comments deleted.
But the truth is that they first shooted, then the soldiers jumped into the ship, in international waters. They try to defent. Well, I see those weapons so much dangerous for the poor soldiers with their guns, I see the kitchen knives, bars, bottles and stones. Israel have done very well, those weapons are very dangerous!
robespain 1 year ago
@robespain
You see the videos and you see its not right.. and you still say it?
The "peacefull" passengers were Al-qaida men.
they had nightvision and and all kind of equipment in the ship.
THe soldiers was equiped with PAINT balls!! and handguns.
they wasnt permitted to hurt anyone for 30 mins.after those 30 mins they started to shoot for their own saftey.
i wanna see u getting pwned for 30 ppl for 30 mins and you wont shoot.
You are pathetic. wake up!
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Deadmanjohn117 1 year ago
@Deadmanjohn117
No you discuss me.
You still belive lies when you see the truth.
fcktokiohotel 1 year ago
@fcktokiohotel have you even seen anything.
You jews complain about the holocost happening and then you go and create one.
Deadmanjohn117 1 year ago
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This is the lie, it was in international water so it is piricy. And this wouldn't of needed to happen if you crap israelies wouldn't kill innocent people and kill little girls for the hell of it. You people just disgust me. You know Palastine is the name for the country as israel hasn't been here for over one hundred years. You jews are just hobos
Deadmanjohn117 1 year ago
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This is the lie, it was in international water so it is piricy. And this wouldn't of needed to happen if you crap israelies wouldn't kill innocent people and kill little girls for the hell of it. You people just discust me. You know Palastine is the name for the country as israel hasn't been here for over one hundred years. You jews are just hobos
Deadmanjohn117 1 year ago
good job fucking hippies, everyone wants peace but idiots from europe must stirr things up
bordeauxjean 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950
israel never replied to that aid organization for over one and half year. that's a great lie.
and what do you expect from the civilians to do? welcome the soldiers with roses who attack in international waters?
sedatcelebis 1 year ago
@sedatcelebis i live in Israel. I served in the israeli army and i know much better than you whats going on. Hamas, Al Qaeda, Iran and now Turkey want the whole world to be muslim. Hamas does not recognize the 7 millions citizens of israel right to exist ( 1 million equal rights arabs among us).
Israel proposed several times to send the aid through the land but the organizers ( that have known links to Al Qaeda btw) just wanted to make provocation and not aid the palestinians.
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 By the same reasoning, the people who live in Gaza know a whole lot more about what is going on in Gaza than you do, which in their case, in contrast to the one you have just presented, is true. You seem to think that serving your time as a grunt and rote-learning your catechism from deranged tank commanders makes you a great political scientist.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Reading world press will not make you political scientist either.
Im sure im more informed about this conflict than you.
The people who live in gaza have no free access to information.
They only know what their isalmic media allows them to know.
Hamas charter calls for a jihad war to destroy israel and violently enforce islamic law all over israel.
Why don't you take these psychos as neighbors?
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 The Hamas charter dates from 1984. Hamas has become much more pragmatic since then, as your government well knows. The Hamas position is that it does not recognise the right of Israel to exist, but it also says that it is states, not parties that make such decisions. What this means is that it at least recognises Israel's de facto existence and is open to finding an accommodation. And don't insult the people of Gaza by telling them that they're not in prison.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath By pragmatic you mean they stopped sending poor kids to blow themself up inside civilians buses?
They still believe that they should use any means necessary to enforce islamic law all over the middle east. We all like our democracy in israel. We have muslims christians and jews citizens living happily together.
Look what happened to iran and turkey. We do not want to end up a muslim country.
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
asdfqwer1950 Well let's look at the body count over the last couple of years, shall we? I believe it is something like Hamas 20/30, Israel 1400+, mostly non-combatants. But of course we have to factor into the equation that every time Hamas kills anyone it is Hamas's responsibility, and every time Israel kills anyone, that is also Hamas's responsibility. So that makes it 1425:0. But then Palestinians are inhuman scum to you, so that actually lets Hamas off the hook a little - 25:0.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Most of the casualties are combatants.
watch?v=K43aF9Px7H4
Its as simple as googling the terrorist name and you can see him preparing for martydom in a terrorist organizations website. Its much easier to demonize Israel.
Check out hamas on wikipedia. See the racist nazi-like propaganda in their charter and tell me they seek peace.
Their written aspiration is to kill all jews, even ones that "hide behind trees & stones" is disgrace to human kind.
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 According to B'Tselem, 770 out of the 1400 killed were non-combatants, but then B'Tselem are just a bunch of self-hating Jews so you can't trust them like you can trust a rabid Zionist web site. But say the figure really were "only" 300. Compare that to the number of Israeli civilians killed in Hamas attacks, which you could count on your fingers after a lifetime working in a sawmill.
Your view of Hamas is the kind one would form after reading nothing but rabid Zionist web sites.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Don't trust this video?
google it yourself. The information is clearly there.
B'Tselem reports are drawn from organizations like PCRH.
Do you agree its a Nazi aspiration to kill hiding jews?
Islam is knocking on your doors. New York, Madrid, London. What did madrid civilians did wrong?!
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 To be honest I haven't bothered with the video. I prefer to find reliable sources of information. Apparently there have been no official Israeli statistics, but the OCHA concludes a significant proportion of civilian casualties, of which at least 333 children. is DOT gd SLASH cH7dR
Basically Zionism is a form of narcissism. Superficially it is about "Us! Us! Us!" but really it is about "Me! Me! Me!" with complete indifference to how others might feel. It is pathetic and infantile.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath I do not support Zionism.
I do think jewish ppl need a state. This is obviously our forefathers land. So we came back here.
Islamic ignorance and refusal to co-exist from the arab part led to the situation we are today.
Islam is a violent, supremacist and racist religion and unfortunately this conflict is not going to end anytime soon.
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 "Islam is a violent, supremacist and racist religion" and so is Zionism, so you should get along fine.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Zionists do not blow up in random capitals as far as i recall.
No charter exists which predicts killing of hiding civilians by Zionists.
Opposing our neighbors israel is pretty tolerant.
Unlike france or belgium, we have no problem citizen will wear burka for example.
Try wearing a cross in gaza and you'll have few seconds to live.
Israel is always judged under different standarts than other countries.
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
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@asdfqwer1950 9/11. WTC7. Muslims no.
Much as I deplore the burka ban here in Belgium, I am much happier about it than I would be if the army attacked Moroccan families with white phosphorus.
"Israel is always judged under different standarts" mainly because the United States vetoes any action that would hold you to account.
I've just googled "zionism narcissism". 300k+ results. So I'm not the only one. I suggest you read up on narcissism because I'm bored of going round in circles.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath You only doubt the sources that affect your personal view, thats selecting information you want to see this is of course also a lie; watch?v=YIBNRVgq59Y OR watch?v=7_OGhj43GAE
But i understand your message here is clear
arievanscholten 1 year ago
@arievanscholten It was either Ben Gurion or Chaim Herzog who said that anyone who thinks that Zionism is a moral matter has not understood it. Since Zionism is simply a depraved game of dog-eat-dog, it is not surprising that there is a long history of Zionist "news" sources lying. Since the Israeli govt hasn't produced any figures, where did they get them from? Rather than wasting my time I decided that the UN was a more reliable source than a frothing racist with an eye for a quick shekel.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 "Israel proposed several times to send the aid through the land" does someone else actually tell you this kind of wild nonsense, or do you just sit at home and make it up for yourself?
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Israel is supporting human aid shipments to gaza.
We don't want rockets to fall into the radical islamic regime there.
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 Well obviously nearly every nation on earth and a whole raft of very well-trusted NGOs, and internationally renowned human rights activists are completely wrong then. Indeed the very moment that the saintly Bibi Netanyahu opens his saintly mouth people like Desmond Tutu and Mairead Corrigan are exposed for the cowardly and worthless liars they are. Maybe I should convert to Judaism and move to Israel so I will no longer have to live with such devious goyim scum.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Their failing economy is direct result of the relentless jihad war they started with israel. Gaza economy was much stronger when the palestinian authority was in charge. Hamas murdered all its opponents and took over. They hang in sqaures any man who will stand against them.
Why don't you care about hundreds palestinians killed by hamas regime?
Why don't you care about darfur mass murders?
Israel can't be blamed for it?
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 The Gaza economy is a wreck because it is blockaded and because even before that, and way before Israel engineered the rise of Hamas, it was already very hard for Gazans to get past the checkpoints to go to jobs in Israel. The way you zionists shirk responsibility for all the suffering you have caused, including the 1400 massacred last year, is beyond despicable.
If there were a massacre in a distant galaxy Israel wouldn't be to blame for that either but so fucking what?
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath i think 3000 rockets on civilians is enough reason for any country to go to war. With any other counry the casulties would have been 140,000.
Why don't you take the gazans and give them jobs. Since when our work visa regulations is world's problem? I personally can't go to any country i want to work there and so can't they.
Why don't egypt let them in?
Maybe they don't want illiterate radical islamic mob trying to make them the next iran.
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 One could also say (but only if one were a disgusting anti-Semitic cockroach like Noam Chomsky or Norman Finkelstein) that the atrocities that paved the way for the creation of the state of Israel such as the Deir Yassin massacre, the King David Hotel bombing and then the ethnic cleansing of more than half the country might be considered a viable casus belli.
Gazans are not allowed to leave the territory even to go to hospital, so no visas.
Grow up.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath King David hotel was targeted for its symbolic value.
They called them in advance and warned them several times.
British arrogance led to ignoring these warnings.
Thats jewish "Terror".
Every week we hear about a suicide bomber in Iraq taking with him intentionally as many human life as possible up to dozens.
Thats islamic terror.
Can you spot the difference?
Why did they attack New York, London, Madrid, South Africa and many more?
Why do radical islam kill ppl?
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 In my last comment I accidentally implied that Chomsky or Finkelstein might actually endorse such a war, which they would absolutely never do.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 If your fantasy really did come true and the Gazans upped sticks and left en masse as a result of the blockade etc, this would under international law be a clear case of genocide. Of course it wouldn't be genocide under Zionist law because all non-Jews are expendable non-persons, but those pesky human rights lawyers don't seem to understand that.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath They initiate conflicts by claiming israel should not exist and seeking its destruction. They make it a zero-sum situation. They will not take our homeland from us and make it a muslim hell. About 25% of israeli citizens are non-jews and live happily.
You are confusing genocide with armed conflict.
Armenians did not fire thousands missiles into turkey.
1.5 million armenians were killed because they had "wrong" ethnicity.
Same with millions of gypsies under nazi regime.
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 You are punishing an entire civilian population for the crimes of individuals. That is a war crime. If through that punishment you drive that people out so that it disperses and loses its identity, that is genocide. International law is very clear on that.
So the Warsaw Ghetto took up arms, thus justifying the Holocaust.
"About 25% of israeli citizens are non-jews and live happily." Get real. Arabs can't even get planning permission for a kitchen extension because of racism.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath Warsaw Ghetto rebels took arms after millions were killed.
For years they were led to furnaces like sheep.
You obviously never been to Israel.
Arabs here live a better life than any neightbor country.
They could easily migrate out but instead arabs migrate in because its a good place to live.
We are the only democracy in the area with arab representitives in the parliament.
Israel has the highest standard of living in the area.
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 Israel has a better standard of living because it gets ridiculous amounts of US aid and because it pillages land and natural resources from the people under its occupation. The great democracy never granted rights to the people under its occupation, only reluctantly agreeing to create bantustans that were not economically viable on their own, and then preventing their residents from going to Israel to work. Now stop being such a whining narcissist and open your eyes.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath 3 billion aid a year is something like 400$ a citizen. It will not make us rich. anyway we spend it on aircraft and missile protection from ahmadinejad that expressed its wish to destroy us.
You are wrong. Israel have no natural resources. that rocky land does not produce any money.
Why doesn't US give all iraqis/afghans a US citizenship?
they are under occupation don't they?
must Israel be judged with higher standards then the rest of the world?
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
@asdfqwer1950 The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are atrocities and world public opinion opposed and continues to oppose them. Israel itself was full behind those wars and therefore shares the guilt.
Israel, the WB and Gaza are not 1000s km apart. They are really part of the same territory, carved up in a very one-sided way. It is only just that all people of the region should have full citizenship of a single state. It is primarily your narcissistic paranoia that prevents any rapprochement.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath
I see. Israel was behind these wars. Because jews are behind all wars.
I personnaly killed christ and drink palestinian children blood after every meal.
asdfqwer1950 1 year ago
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heromiami305 1 year ago
Fuck Palestine! Their peoples don't deserve any foods! Block them all! As long as Hamas is running the show then Israel should show no MERCY! Let me remind to all you condemning Israel! This is the same Palestinians that burn and stomp on the U.S. flag after 9/11! HAHAHA they don't give a shit about the West nor do we going to give a shit about them! Fuck them all to hell!
aznluck 1 year ago