The superiority of the Luftwaffe is beyond controversy. Go google "list of world war 2 flying aces", look the Wikipedia and show some humbleness. The top 3 german aces shot down nearly 1000 enemies. Under the top 100 ww2 flying aces there is not a single non-german pilot. This is no propaganda it is backed up by allied intelligence.
During WW II: United States Army Air Force--Incredible footage, probably taken from early 1943 until mid-1944, after which time the USAAF was able to mount effective long-range escort fighter cover for the bomber streams. This made the BF-110/210/410 twin-engined bomber destroyers too slow and ungainly with their heavy weaponry and armor. Note that the Luftwaffe favored head-on or rear
attacks beyond the firing angles of most of the gunner positions. Deadly...
@freeharddrive Its quite possible that this FW is equiped with the R2 weapons configuration that replaced 2 of its 20mm with 30mm, Those 30mm were mounted far outboard of the FW's wings. Now look where the most devestating hits initially impact the B-17. Far outboard on both wings, with instant fire. The mix bag of flash and damage especially with the latter fueselage hits suggest to me that theres two size's of cannon munition going on here. To much carnage for "just" 20mm.
@freeharddrive Also compare the FW A-7 (4x20mm cannon +2mg) with the FW A-8 and notice how in the A-8 footage theres a lot more parts being blown from the victims. Note the starboard elevator of the B-17 at 5:34 and how shredded it becomes.
ok.. im aware that the US had fighters and bombers and the like but i thought it was under a different name, like air corps. Anyways ill just do some research haha
Hitler actually had over 1300 me262, but because of the presure from the allies and the russian on land an sea he had very little fuel. he battle of the bulge had germans trying to capture fuel for the attack to continue, in the air the 262 guzzled gas fuel and the germans were unable to deliver it in enough quantiuty, add to that the RAF and the USAF bombing and straffing the 262's and all other aircraft before they could get to thier airfields read Stephen Ambrose - citizen Soldiers.
sorry, but actual fighter planes Guncams usually don't have sound. They might today, since sound actually allows one to understand more of what is going on..
But By WWII the apparatus necessary, the added weight just didn't make it... remember this AC were lighter and had much more power than fighters today, and sound recording devices were huge compared to your mobile phone..
So, this is as real as ti gets, this is what active pilots would study to learn more about the enemy....
..."During the action on 18 August it had cost the Luftwaffe five trained aircrewmen killed, wounded or taken prisoner, for each British fighter pilot killed or wounded"...
THE PURE FACTS: Mongols&Turks Spoke, that Russian army - weak. Russian have broken them.. Crusaders, that Russian army - weak. Sweden&finland Spoke, that Russian army - weak Russian have broken them. Napoleon&Poland Spoke, that Russian army - weak. Russian have broken it him. Hitler spoke, that Russian army - weak. Russian have broken it him. Now Americans&all europa speak us..& The god in the Sky! Russia on the ground
Russia on the ground ".. Correction. The RAF in the sky and Royal navy on the seas and the Russians masses rushing German guns on the ground. Thats better.
dude, what's the issue?... nobody wants russia or to attack russia... what are smoking?...
I've been watching the channel "Russia today" and the way they deliver news and highlight stuff is still very propagandistic and sometimes not very factual. but hearsay...
yes russia has a great army, but it was beaten both in chechenya and afganhistan...
also russia was kicked in finland.. that's how they got their independece.. :)
Russia has won war with Finland! Yes, there was losses from Russian party(side) from for very big colds much, the basic losses were from a cold (so in 1941 Germans have sufferred defeats near Moscow too from for frosts, and the red army already had experience) Except for that Finland has given very big tribute of Russia and has given a part of the territory. And EARLIER Russia won Finland also she(it) was in general in structure of Russian empire.
If Me262 was used in sufficient numbers the only planes left would be the American escort fighters... Obviously, the speed advantage and interception tactics of Me262 would make American bombers sitting ducks. Similarly to B-29 in Korean war when they had to encounter MiG jets
Those Me 262's when taking off or landing are sitting ducks! With limited range and complete Allied control of the skies over Germany and Allied fighter sweeps negated any edge that the Me 262 had.
Yeah and the Me262s still had a very high kill-death ratio, cos they were pretty lethal aircraft in the air. Its a good thing Hitler went for conventional Bf109s and Focke-wulfs in 1943 when the 262 came out, otherwise, with a year of fighting experience and resources to make them by the hundreds, maybe thousands, no aircraft in the world would have been able to take them on.
Gimme a break...Germenas attacked the world... they were pumping civilians into their army so you had to make the civilians think twice before they just jump in the band wagon... Could have triggered a Rebellion too.
whats about the human beings (many women and children, not only soldiers) in the cities on the ground, which was ripped to pieces by the bombers? Cultural damage they did excluded... There is not only black and white, there are numerous shades of grey.
@griesgramdergrobe - The point was this video isn't from some childish video game. It's real footage of *people dying*. War is never nice. Many people die and had to die in order to defeat the evil oppression that was Nazi Germany.
This was reality, I know. Every side thought that they are the good guys that are fighting against the evil enemy. And both sides did a lot of things which should have maked them really ashamed.
As Superpower of allies the Soviet Red Army with greater military than all the allies combined..killed 7.7 million axis (over 75%) before one of the smaller allies america requested Soviets help defeat Japan at 1945 summit before Italian Enrico Fermi A bomb
Legendary Sir Winston Churchill is lauded as the worlds greatest ever War Leader, but Stalin's imperious Soviet machine carried most of the workload in the War as Germans focused over 80% efforts on them knowing they take Russia..Game over
i like the Germans beacuse they did some bad things and punished beacuse of that, but fucking italians were like they were innocent,like war never happened to them, they were a bunch of rats and they still are!
83% of all bombs they allies dropped was dropped over citis full of civilians more than 1 million ppl died ofcourse that dont make them all evil but this was a warcrime and due to the fact that the allies outnumberd the luftwaffe 1:8 i cant say they were heroes
i never said the luftwaffe were heroes i know they bombed citys. but in 1945 the western allies bombed more citys in a month then the germans ever did. i think the raf and luftwaffe were heroes when they protected citys from the enemy bombers NOT when they were the ones bombing citys.
The first to bomb cities were the "civilized" Brits. And not just that, the criminal Brit air commanders took it even further, go see the biography of that scumbag criminal c*ckscuker named Sir Arthur Harris.
You have got to respect them bomber crews...going up and knowing that you may not come back at all. That takes courage and probably a certain amount of testicular fortitude as well.
Textbook head-on attack on Liberator in the first scene. Everyone in cockpit area killed instantly. Also, from 1:30 to 2:55, see the total hammering the B17 takes from an Me 110!
honestly I only see the p51 flying downwards,, and then the german flys around looking for him and he comes back probably firing.. the quality isn't much...
but, yes, if that was the same plane.. it was quite a manuver... tho I can't see the p51 most of the time..
first Army Air Service later on it was renamed Army AirCorp. and around 1945 Army AirForce. and finally in september 18, 1948 the Air Force became its own separate Branch.
The Air Force became a seprate branch Sept. 18 1947 trust me I was in the Air Force for many years and we always celebrated the Air Force "birth day".
please timo159 in russian front agains slow,old and rare aircraft.easy job for finnish german and other pilots.447 aircraft including bomber and ground attack machine.whant kind of aircraft?with our g 50 funny but very disarmed and slow.
During Continuation War (1941-44) Finish Air Force had also american Brewster-fighter. With Brewsters they shut down 447 russian aircrafts and lost only 19 in dogfights. So rate was 1:23,5.
Brewster was a shite plane (that's why they sold them to Finland in the first place). Put drunken monkeys in the enemy cockpits, and 1 to 23.5 is still pretty good.
The main cause why finns were so succesfull though was the Winter War 1939-40. Russians had mostly better aircrafts than finns, so finns had to developed special tactic. They hit and then run, hit and run. It was short but very effective tactic. Most import thing was the skill to fly but skill to use guns in right time and in right tactic. Russians were to much acrobats, but they never learn to use guns of aircraft. That's why finns won the battles by 10:1 or even 15:1.
I checked the confirmed numbers of Finnish Air Force history statistics. In Continue War finns shut down at least 1600 russian aircraft while loosing 86 in airbattles and 66 by enemy anti-aircraft gunners. But it was not all, hundreds of russian planes were also crushed in Karelia, Eastonia or Baltic Sea (estonian and german wittness). I could be possible than russian actually lost much more than 2000 aircraft in these dogfights.
And another example. Luftwaffe unit- Kuhlmey fought in Karelian front during same furious battle in summer 1944. They had 30 fighters and 30 stukas. They lost 30 aircrafts (mostly stukas). But they destroyed some 200 russian tanks, hundreds of artilleries, cars, bridges and shut down 152 russian aircrafts in just 4 weeks. They were suberb, very impressive and never gave up. Their solidarity with their "comrades" was magnificiant.
Now here is a problem. USA built up 296 000 aircraft, gave 14500 to USSR and about 20 000 to other allies. In august 1945 they have 100 000 planes in service. So some 150 000 have "disappeared". However in Wikipedia they said that USA lost only little bit more than 40 000. Where are the rest - 100 000 - 110 000? Damaged, "tired" or what?
ironic -- the exploitation of the material resources of north america to defeat the nazis and save the jews who rebound to continue their exploitation of the world's bounty
Geeze. I didnt think it'd be so dangerous to close in on a bomber - look at all the debris and crap flying off! Not only do you have Allied fighter escorts and a couple of .30 cals pointed your way, but you can even get killed by the pieces of the plane you're killing!
That'd be 2 or more .50 cals, depending on the angle of attack (provided the gunners were still alive). Of course it was bloody dangerous! Unlike in this footage, which probably includes many 'coup de grace' attacks, the Germans preferred head-on attacks.
yes, the Finnish fighter command (don't know much about what did other air force branches) managed to have outstanding successes,even with aircrafts considered as outclassed (Brewster Buffalo, Morane 406).
But it is known than, till 44, the Soviet Air force was technically and tactically speaking, no match for the Axis forces.
But, against the RAF and USAAF, it has been another story...
Hitler's luftwaffe should of destroyed RAF in England before moving to Operation Barbarossa. BIG MISTAKE! He should of focused on airfields not civilian targets.
The Luftwaffe often did splendidly on tactical scale, but they did not stand a snowballs chance in hell on strategic scale. The WW2 top ace list tells who had the best pilots, but individuals can only accomplish so much.
Germans and finns were propably the best pilots in WW2. Just one example. Finland had some 30 bf-109's during furious fights in summer 1944. They lost in action 18 of them. But they shut down 662 sovjet aircrafs in just 6 weeks. Hundreds were damaged so badly that many of them never couldn't be in service.
These comparisons are disrespectful. The performance of the RAF in the Battle of Britain was incredibly heroic but I would not disrespect the contribution of the American airmen who attacked Germany during daylight.
the firepower of the luftwaffe's aircrafts in the battle of britain was superior to that of the raf but it was cripple by lack of oil.the oil only lasted about 15mins per trip before the pilots had to retreat back to their air bases.
yeah well remember who bombed Germany, without fighter escorts and during the day...RAF didnt do that...and the Luftwaffe lost the war, enough spoken there for them
Thank you for the video. My father flew a P-51 for army air recon. He would pre-fly an area to photo targets. that was the easy part. After the bombing, he would have to fly another mission to photo the bombing damage. That was the hard part because they always knew someone was always comming back to photo the damage and they were waiting for the return visit.
why didnt any of those allies bombers have a rear gun turret ??????? the nazi planes just got in behind them and blew the shit out of them without taking any return fire
Most of the attack videos on the bombers were "clean-up" actions. The bombers were already hit bad and trying to limp home. The rear and turret gunners were most likely dead as a doornail already. Look closely at the videos, and you will see the guns are turned down or out of action. Probably a dead body sumped over them.
B17s had a 2 .50 cal tail turret, and the same 2 50 cals in the dorsal(topside) and ventral ("ball") turret for behind and below. For the initial attack, the Germans preferred head on attacks because that reduced the amount of time they were exposed to gunfire, and made it harder for the gunners to line up a shot. Also, 20 and 30 mm autocannon do more damage in less time than heavy machine guns
What an AMAZING video collection. THANK YOU!!! Seeing these suberb aircraft perform in real life is nothing short of incredible.
Anyone doubting the technical superiority of the German forces in WWII needs their heads read.
aet75: The 190 D9 and ta-152 were absolutely superb fighters. They lacked the range of the P51 and (possibly, MW-50 injection wasn't tested post war properly) the speed of the Tempest, but saying the 190's could not keep up with Allied aircraft is plain wrong.
FW 190 has speed, but isn't agile.. the spit has a tiny bit less speed (depends on the version on both planes naturally) but compensates with very good agility.
but for speed on the ally side there were also the american planes P51, P47 (very fast, heavy AC tho), P38.. those 3 are extremelyt fast.. on the late war came a few more even faster..
What are you talking about? The FW-190 was a very agile plane and a superb design. The only thing it lacked was HIGH ALITUDE performance because the BMW 801 radial engine it sported wasn't designed for that. The FW-190D and Ta-152H took care of that problem but came too late, especially the Ta-152H.
well, hitler was stupid (thank god).. and also ill on second half of the war.. FW 190 is good, but its just a good match for spits.. not totally superior.. (FLY targetware(dot)net and u'll understand)
also production is very important, and germany just couldnt keep up with USA, UK and USSR united..
ALSO and VERY IMPORTANT, german enginnering is perfecionist.. which means delays to achieve that last detail..
The early FW-190 beat the contemporary Spit Mk V in everything but turning radius. And turning radius alone won't get you anywhere. I'd say the 190 was a superior fighter; the Brits thought the same, and rushed the Mk IX into service. Thus I think (read: idly speculate) that the 190 would've made a huge impact in the BoB. Later in the war, the 190 series could barely keep up with the allied planes.
yes.. they FW was slightly superior to the MK V, I proved that in combat on TW already.. but just slightly, It needs a good pilot and balanced numbers in the air to use that advantage, and in BoB it could had changed the war, but later on was controled by allied numbers in the air and the attacks to its factories..
I don't know what you proved on TW, or what it is, even. What I know is that air superiority reverted from the Brits to the Germans thanks to the FW-190.
TW is the web site of (in my point of view) one of the best Air combat sims, It has great flight models.. and planes are intended as real as possible. The Sim is free for download and to fly (for now).. you may find other sims with better eye candies, but not with best Flight models.
What I proved was during an event were we were about 5 to 5, Spits V and FW190s, I was flying axis and we controled the fight due to the use of superior speed.
Altho at close combat the spit is more agile, it depends on the type of fight and on the pilots. Generally FW is a better at B&Z (zoom and boom),but later Spit versions with more powerful engines balanced again the odds.
aet75, how do you consider the RAF a failure in the Battle of Britain? They met the main objective, to prevent the German invasion? However, the RAF spitfires met failure in France before the battle of britain. But during the battle of britain, the British were on the defensive.
Read more carefully before jumping your keyboard. I was referring to a bombing campaign against Berlin that the RAF dubbed the BATTLE OF BERLIN, which was, by all accounts, a complete failure.
Another thing I want to also clarify aet75. They suspended bombing raids deep inside the Reich; such as Paris, Berlin..the hearts of German industry. They had P-47's before the Mustangs, but not the range. Bombings still went on, but only on the "shores" or close to it like in Bremen..etc.
Paris? A heart of German industry? Oh come on man, that's just utter nonsense! And, apart from RAF's failed 'Battle of Berlin', the German capital was not seriously attacked until the very end of the war.
The heart of the German industry was, and still is, the Ruhr region.
aet75: 2 things I must point. 1.) Germany was not facing vast manpower and material strength of the west but also the vast manpower and material strenth of the West, and it's imported allies such as India, West Indies..etc.
Looking at numbers, it is obvious that the war was decided on the eastern front. The bombing campaign did contribute (although not as much as is generally thought), but it did not cause Germany to lose the war.
And ASIA??? lol....dude....go read a book on India and Pakistan...lol..we didn't have any enemies in Asia back then...nor now..except each other.... The only possible closest enemies were the Germans in Egypt, in which my grandfather also took part in; actually worked for railroad supplying the British
that is true...but the brits also used manpower from it's colonies against the Germans too, and among them were from the Indian subcontinent. And I don't have read a book. I know pretty much a lot about all the WWII players already. A lot that is not even told in mainstream books!
Yes they did, but not on a decisive scale. Did you know that many Indians captured by the Axis in North Africa volunteered to fight against the allies (Indian Legion)?
no I never knew that? DEFINITELY not something mentioned in history. But to no surprise as almost all Indians wanted the oppressing British regime out of India.
Yes, that was the reason exactly. They did not have too much trust from the German high command, so they saw very limited action. At the end of the war, the Indian contingent (as the Indische Freiwilligen Legion der Waffen SS), was captured near Switzerland as it tried to cross the border.
I'm sorry to say that you don't know much about former British colonies. I know this because I am from Pakistan, and I know my country's history very well. Much of the South East Asians also took part with the British to bring down the Third Reich.
In a way it was a secret arrangement with the Indian people (Pakistan was part of India) that if they help win the war, they will let go of India...as they had no other choice since Battle of Britain and the early years of WWII seriously took a toll on the British armed forces; so they couldn't keep it for long.
and the other thing you have to understand is..there was a freedom struggle going on in India before the war, and whatever is happening in Iraq was happening there. Making this "secret" proposal was the only way the British deemed possible to withdraw and not lose face with a forced defeat.
english bomber command lost 60,000 men come the wars end.. by any evaluation those were horrendous losses.. the figure equals the number of people, civilians, killed in london in the course of the war.
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The superiority of the Luftwaffe is beyond controversy. Go google "list of world war 2 flying aces", look the Wikipedia and show some humbleness. The top 3 german aces shot down nearly 1000 enemies. Under the top 100 ww2 flying aces there is not a single non-german pilot. This is no propaganda it is backed up by allied intelligence.
Gelebify 2 weeks ago
sorry but Luftwaffe is better.
jarkanciofan 2 weeks ago
congrat lufwaffe..i like
digetify 5 months ago
@digetify - You like people dying? Are you feeling okay, or did you miss your medications?
JohnQuincyAdams1 4 months ago
During WW II: United States Army Air Force--Incredible footage, probably taken from early 1943 until mid-1944, after which time the USAAF was able to mount effective long-range escort fighter cover for the bomber streams. This made the BF-110/210/410 twin-engined bomber destroyers too slow and ungainly with their heavy weaponry and armor. Note that the Luftwaffe favored head-on or rear
attacks beyond the firing angles of most of the gunner positions. Deadly...
madcitymcflyer 6 months ago
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honor a la luftwaffe
luftwaffe honor
Luftwaffe Ehre
riaton87 9 months ago
Hello all youtubers!
From 4:39 to 4:50 is that couple of 20mm shots or 30mm shots?
freeharddrive 10 months ago
@freeharddrive Its quite possible that this FW is equiped with the R2 weapons configuration that replaced 2 of its 20mm with 30mm, Those 30mm were mounted far outboard of the FW's wings. Now look where the most devestating hits initially impact the B-17. Far outboard on both wings, with instant fire. The mix bag of flash and damage especially with the latter fueselage hits suggest to me that theres two size's of cannon munition going on here. To much carnage for "just" 20mm.
Tarten46 7 months ago
@freeharddrive Also compare the FW A-7 (4x20mm cannon +2mg) with the FW A-8 and notice how in the A-8 footage theres a lot more parts being blown from the victims. Note the starboard elevator of the B-17 at 5:34 and how shredded it becomes.
Tarten46 7 months ago
I must say, the firepower the 190 has is devastating.
jimmyggh1 1 year ago
@jimmyggh1 - HAD.
JohnQuincyAdams1 1 year ago
at 3.36 you can see their saucer technology fly by on the screen.
xtiml 1 year ago
that shit must have been annoying having to maneuver behind them and your cannons to get a kill
korn6499 2 years ago
10. Angliff Bf110G の画像はなんかヒキョー。ずいぶんと長く射撃しているけど、そのくせB-17の胴体下のターレットはあさっての方向を向いているし、尾部銃座からの発砲していない。高度も低いし、乗員が脱出してふらふら飛んでる飛行機を、撃ってる場面だね、こりゃ。
matsu0042 2 years ago
air corp
ru36iscoming 2 years ago
There was no US Airforce in ww2
capufool 2 years ago
Yes there was...USAF
lolpranksta 2 years ago
hmmm when did ww2 end?becouse if im thinking prpoperly the USAF wasnt erected till.... 47 i beleive, leaving them with little to do
capufool 2 years ago
You're prob thinking of NORAD or NATO...that was post WWII during the cold war, the U.S did have an airforce during WWII
lolpranksta 2 years ago
ok.. im aware that the US had fighters and bombers and the like but i thought it was under a different name, like air corps. Anyways ill just do some research haha
capufool 2 years ago
@capufool - In WWII the U.S. Air Force went by the name of, U.S. Army Air Corps. My Mother was a U.S. Army Air Corps flight instructor.
JohnQuincyAdams1 1 year ago
@capufool - WWII ended in 1945.
JohnQuincyAdams1 1 year ago
Hitler actually had over 1300 me262, but because of the presure from the allies and the russian on land an sea he had very little fuel. he battle of the bulge had germans trying to capture fuel for the attack to continue, in the air the 262 guzzled gas fuel and the germans were unable to deliver it in enough quantiuty, add to that the RAF and the USAF bombing and straffing the 262's and all other aircraft before they could get to thier airfields read Stephen Ambrose - citizen Soldiers.
furballFalcon 2 years ago
0:11,Liberator pilots turned into canned meat.
PanzerZerstorer14 2 years ago
Good video. But the music ......well I wish I could hear the real sounds.
Nato61 2 years ago
sorry, but actual fighter planes Guncams usually don't have sound. They might today, since sound actually allows one to understand more of what is going on..
But By WWII the apparatus necessary, the added weight just didn't make it... remember this AC were lighter and had much more power than fighters today, and sound recording devices were huge compared to your mobile phone..
So, this is as real as ti gets, this is what active pilots would study to learn more about the enemy....
vascoa 2 years ago
baranov russia was weak in 2ww against finland
kanisterissa 2 years ago 2
..."During the action on 18 August it had cost the Luftwaffe five trained aircrewmen killed, wounded or taken prisoner, for each British fighter pilot killed or wounded"...
warriorprince1010 2 years ago
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BaranovV 2 years ago
Huh?
ronwies 2 years ago
"The god in the Sky!
Russia on the ground ".. Correction. The RAF in the sky and Royal navy on the seas and the Russians masses rushing German guns on the ground. Thats better.
warriorprince1010 2 years ago
bla bla lba. luftwfe its немецкая фанера
BaranovV 2 years ago
dude, what's the issue?... nobody wants russia or to attack russia... what are smoking?...
I've been watching the channel "Russia today" and the way they deliver news and highlight stuff is still very propagandistic and sometimes not very factual. but hearsay...
yes russia has a great army, but it was beaten both in chechenya and afganhistan...
also russia was kicked in finland.. that's how they got their independece.. :)
vascoa 2 years ago
Russia has won war with Finland! Yes, there was losses from Russian party(side) from for very big colds much, the basic losses were from a cold (so in 1941 Germans have sufferred defeats near Moscow too from for frosts, and the red army already had experience) Except for that Finland has given very big tribute of Russia and has given a part of the territory. And EARLIER Russia won Finland also she(it) was in general in structure of Russian empire.
BaranovV 2 years ago
If Me262 was used in sufficient numbers the only planes left would be the American escort fighters... Obviously, the speed advantage and interception tactics of Me262 would make American bombers sitting ducks. Similarly to B-29 in Korean war when they had to encounter MiG jets
JohnEngineerisback 2 years ago
Those Me 262's when taking off or landing are sitting ducks! With limited range and complete Allied control of the skies over Germany and Allied fighter sweeps negated any edge that the Me 262 had.
fluffy1931 2 years ago
Yeah and the Me262s still had a very high kill-death ratio, cos they were pretty lethal aircraft in the air. Its a good thing Hitler went for conventional Bf109s and Focke-wulfs in 1943 when the 262 came out, otherwise, with a year of fighting experience and resources to make them by the hundreds, maybe thousands, no aircraft in the world would have been able to take them on.
mongoingo 2 years ago
4:29 was An english bomber... Lancaster Bomber.
THEganjamatt 2 years ago
didn't the allies have guncams in their planes?
TDS89 2 years ago
Yes, they did.
MikeWinpeg 2 years ago
I can't even fathom being on a bomber aircrew during World War 2.
scenepointjudge 2 years ago
must have been terrifying for the aircrew on both sides
regalmeister 2 years ago
redhead, absolutely...thank god their is no dumb music...the pictures say it for themselves, thank you for whoever put this up with no music
jagdpanther1944 2 years ago 5
I'm glad there is no stupid sound track to this video.
Redheadedtroll68 2 years ago 2
why because ur stupid. and if u don`t like the sounds asshole just put on mute
chandler3214 2 years ago
Gimme a break...Germenas attacked the world... they were pumping civilians into their army so you had to make the civilians think twice before they just jump in the band wagon... Could have triggered a Rebellion too.
flipper2311 3 years ago
they didnt attack the world, they did a "premptive strike"
trossk 2 years ago
RATATATATATATA B17 DOWN.
freeharddrive 3 years ago
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Shot em mutha fuckahz down, yeee yee
420tenke420 2 years ago
@freeharddrive ....and 12 men, human beings, DIE. :-(
JohnQuincyAdams1 1 year ago
@JohnQuincyAdams1
whats about the human beings (many women and children, not only soldiers) in the cities on the ground, which was ripped to pieces by the bombers? Cultural damage they did excluded... There is not only black and white, there are numerous shades of grey.
griesgramdergrobe 4 months ago
@griesgramdergrobe - The point was this video isn't from some childish video game. It's real footage of *people dying*. War is never nice. Many people die and had to die in order to defeat the evil oppression that was Nazi Germany.
JohnQuincyAdams1 4 months ago
@JohnQuincyAdams1
This was reality, I know. Every side thought that they are the good guys that are fighting against the evil enemy. And both sides did a lot of things which should have maked them really ashamed.
griesgramdergrobe 4 months ago
@griesgramdergrobe - No one but the insane evil could ever possibly think that Nazi Germany and Imperialist Japan had, "evil enemy's".
JohnQuincyAdams1 4 months ago
The British were not the first to bomb civilians - that honor belongs to the Nazis.
AcePilot101 3 years ago
did these old gun cams record sound, or was sound added on afterwards for cinematic effect? Always wondered that.
RavingInATractor 3 years ago
all sounds on vids 4rom back then was definetley added in - cams back then didn't record sound..
shitchops 3 years ago
usaf rulezz...
crazyfingers777 3 years ago
awesome, slaugther those yankees!
emokiller3 3 years ago
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As Superpower of allies the Soviet Red Army with greater military than all the allies combined..killed 7.7 million axis (over 75%) before one of the smaller allies america requested Soviets help defeat Japan at 1945 summit before Italian Enrico Fermi A bomb
Legendary Sir Winston Churchill is lauded as the worlds greatest ever War Leader, but Stalin's imperious Soviet machine carried most of the workload in the War as Germans focused over 80% efforts on them knowing they take Russia..Game over
Slater071 3 years ago
i like the Germans beacuse they did some bad things and punished beacuse of that, but fucking italians were like they were innocent,like war never happened to them, they were a bunch of rats and they still are!
gunzoline93 3 years ago
Amazing footage, brave pilots, thanks for sharing.
RipUaNew1 3 years ago
Interessant... Man sieht wenig bis gar kein Abwehrfeuer...
VolkerSt 3 years ago
where is the tail gunner? where is the fighter escort? poor bombers crew :(
kobac81 3 years ago
Probably and saddly dead or injured...
jluisochoa 3 years ago
83% of all bombs they allies dropped was dropped over citis full of civilians more than 1 million ppl died ofcourse that dont make them all evil but this was a warcrime and due to the fact that the allies outnumberd the luftwaffe 1:8 i cant say they were heroes
boggypete17 3 years ago
and what where the targets of V-1, belgrade, Rotterdam, Warsaw???
gotcha109 3 years ago
So does that make the Luftwaffe heros when they attacke London and other UK cities?
rbg29 3 years ago
i never said the luftwaffe were heroes i know they bombed citys. but in 1945 the western allies bombed more citys in a month then the germans ever did. i think the raf and luftwaffe were heroes when they protected citys from the enemy bombers NOT when they were the ones bombing citys.
boggypete17 3 years ago
The first to bomb cities were the "civilized" Brits. And not just that, the criminal Brit air commanders took it even further, go see the biography of that scumbag criminal c*ckscuker named Sir Arthur Harris.
vonkaunaz 3 years ago
yeah, alot of people in the RAF did'nt even like that guy.
lemonite1 3 years ago
Liar!
AcePilot101 3 years ago
Well I am afraid that Sir Arthur Harris went too far - but I agreed with u one thing Nazis did start bombing first.....
jimmyuk007 3 years ago
Yeah its true
jimmyuk007 3 years ago
I admired to bomber crews cos they r so brave and german air crews r very gifted too
jimmyuk007 3 years ago
You have got to respect them bomber crews...going up and knowing that you may not come back at all. That takes courage and probably a certain amount of testicular fortitude as well.
Awesome vid...
dougeagle 3 years ago
Hitler = Stalin.
aiwo20 3 years ago
well they're not alike ecxept for both a major dic*s
hitler uses his charisma while stalin uses oppression
boomstix 3 years ago
The amount of damage that these bombers can handle is simply astounding!
Versus1984 3 years ago
Textbook head-on attack on Liberator in the first scene. Everyone in cockpit area killed instantly. Also, from 1:30 to 2:55, see the total hammering the B17 takes from an Me 110!
shiva369 3 years ago
big battle at 7.3 to 7.5, german didn't master of situation, great american pilot, very strongest !!
HondaRacingDevellopm 3 years ago
honestly I only see the p51 flying downwards,, and then the german flys around looking for him and he comes back probably firing.. the quality isn't much...
but, yes, if that was the same plane.. it was quite a manuver... tho I can't see the p51 most of the time..
vascoa 3 years ago
i don't think there was such thing as an air force back in ww2 only an air core and the navy.
willnorthrop 3 years ago
The Air Corps was reorganized before the US entrance as the US Army Air Forces.
aet75 3 years ago
first Army Air Service later on it was renamed Army AirCorp. and around 1945 Army AirForce. and finally in september 18, 1948 the Air Force became its own separate Branch.
Holret 3 years ago
The Air Force became a seprate branch Sept. 18 1947 trust me I was in the Air Force for many years and we always celebrated the Air Force "birth day".
hndaman2000 3 years ago
i need to study this i have a test on friday
chika507 3 years ago
lol.. study guncams?.. :D
vascoa 3 years ago
please timo159 in russian front agains slow,old and rare aircraft.easy job for finnish german and other pilots.447 aircraft including bomber and ground attack machine.whant kind of aircraft?with our g 50 funny but very disarmed and slow.
sardosfish 4 years ago
huh huh.. Already in 1942 russian was starting to have better fighters than brewster..And in 1943 it was slower than russian bombers.
So its the pilots who make the difference
pyllywaltteri 3 years ago 2
well ummm kinda yeah
chika507 3 years ago
During Continuation War (1941-44) Finish Air Force had also american Brewster-fighter. With Brewsters they shut down 447 russian aircrafts and lost only 19 in dogfights. So rate was 1:23,5.
Brewsters were were good especially in 1941-42.
timo1595 4 years ago
Russian pilots were badly trained...that's not a lot.
MobiusDragon89 3 years ago
Brewster was a shite plane (that's why they sold them to Finland in the first place). Put drunken monkeys in the enemy cockpits, and 1 to 23.5 is still pretty good.
aet75 3 years ago
The main cause why finns were so succesfull though was the Winter War 1939-40. Russians had mostly better aircrafts than finns, so finns had to developed special tactic. They hit and then run, hit and run. It was short but very effective tactic. Most import thing was the skill to fly but skill to use guns in right time and in right tactic. Russians were to much acrobats, but they never learn to use guns of aircraft. That's why finns won the battles by 10:1 or even 15:1.
timo1595 4 years ago
I checked the confirmed numbers of Finnish Air Force history statistics. In Continue War finns shut down at least 1600 russian aircraft while loosing 86 in airbattles and 66 by enemy anti-aircraft gunners. But it was not all, hundreds of russian planes were also crushed in Karelia, Eastonia or Baltic Sea (estonian and german wittness). I could be possible than russian actually lost much more than 2000 aircraft in these dogfights.
tranmere789 4 years ago
And another example. Luftwaffe unit- Kuhlmey fought in Karelian front during same furious battle in summer 1944. They had 30 fighters and 30 stukas. They lost 30 aircrafts (mostly stukas). But they destroyed some 200 russian tanks, hundreds of artilleries, cars, bridges and shut down 152 russian aircrafts in just 4 weeks. They were suberb, very impressive and never gave up. Their solidarity with their "comrades" was magnificiant.
timo1595 4 years ago
Now here is a problem. USA built up 296 000 aircraft, gave 14500 to USSR and about 20 000 to other allies. In august 1945 they have 100 000 planes in service. So some 150 000 have "disappeared". However in Wikipedia they said that USA lost only little bit more than 40 000. Where are the rest - 100 000 - 110 000? Damaged, "tired" or what?
timo1595 4 years ago
ironic -- the exploitation of the material resources of north america to defeat the nazis and save the jews who rebound to continue their exploitation of the world's bounty
greganwortman 4 years ago
That Deep But True, Sad.
texasfathead 4 years ago
Fuck you aceup777 Pussy!
texasfathead 4 years ago
Man that FW-190 Shot P-51D out of the sky,WOW!
texasfathead 4 years ago
Sure it did. FW-190 was uber plane.
swarogman 3 years ago
Where were the P-51s? running for home?
texasfathead 4 years ago
Geeze. I didnt think it'd be so dangerous to close in on a bomber - look at all the debris and crap flying off! Not only do you have Allied fighter escorts and a couple of .30 cals pointed your way, but you can even get killed by the pieces of the plane you're killing!
DeathsBlackOrchid 4 years ago
That'd be 2 or more .50 cals, depending on the angle of attack (provided the gunners were still alive). Of course it was bloody dangerous! Unlike in this footage, which probably includes many 'coup de grace' attacks, the Germans preferred head-on attacks.
aet75 4 years ago
There was no USA Air Force in WWII, just the old Army Air Corps.
snman37922 4 years ago 2
Same thing DUMBASS! GEEEZ!
texasfathead 4 years ago
im not british
fjcf123 4 years ago
yes, the Finnish fighter command (don't know much about what did other air force branches) managed to have outstanding successes,even with aircrafts considered as outclassed (Brewster Buffalo, Morane 406).
But it is known than, till 44, the Soviet Air force was technically and tactically speaking, no match for the Axis forces.
But, against the RAF and USAAF, it has been another story...
kaa13 4 years ago
ist das ein Schulfilm für Piloten?
Assuranipal 4 years ago
the luftwaffe wins by far
fjcf123 4 years ago 2
No sir, the Luftwaffe has lost, and was unable to gain air superiority, even over the Reich, from mid 44'.
It is one of the main cause of the defeat of Nazi Germany.
kaa13 4 years ago
Hitler's luftwaffe should of destroyed RAF in England before moving to Operation Barbarossa. BIG MISTAKE! He should of focused on airfields not civilian targets.
gravelandx88 4 years ago
The Luftwaffe often did splendidly on tactical scale, but they did not stand a snowballs chance in hell on strategic scale. The WW2 top ace list tells who had the best pilots, but individuals can only accomplish so much.
aet75 4 years ago
Germans and finns were propably the best pilots in WW2. Just one example. Finland had some 30 bf-109's during furious fights in summer 1944. They lost in action 18 of them. But they shut down 662 sovjet aircrafs in just 6 weeks. Hundreds were damaged so badly that many of them never couldn't be in service.
timo1595 4 years ago
Thx, love the 100% footage. D~
Dunwyche 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
RAF was the best,than the Luftwaffe and then the crappy USAAF
fjcf123 4 years ago
These comparisons are disrespectful. The performance of the RAF in the Battle of Britain was incredibly heroic but I would not disrespect the contribution of the American airmen who attacked Germany during daylight.
Tony63efc 4 years ago
its not disrespectfull is fact
fjcf123 4 years ago
the firepower of the luftwaffe's aircrafts in the battle of britain was superior to that of the raf but it was cripple by lack of oil.the oil only lasted about 15mins per trip before the pilots had to retreat back to their air bases.
chiewwah 4 years ago
yeah well remember who bombed Germany, without fighter escorts and during the day...RAF didnt do that...and the Luftwaffe lost the war, enough spoken there for them
edzo1121 4 years ago
they did had fighter escorts,the P-51 MUSTANGS,the missions without escorts failed
fjcf123 4 years ago 2
Thankyou for not putting a sound track to the footage....how can I source a copy?? If you don't mind me asking...
krayonky 4 years ago
Its not the U.S. Airforce. It was the Army Air Corps.
thestiffler78 4 years ago
Well, to be exact, the old Air Corps was reorganized and subordinated to the US Army Air Forces (USAAF) before US entered the war.
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tyrulewar 4 years ago
but lets not forget the p 51
undergroundrcer1 4 years ago
10 takes such a hammering !!! must have had hundreds of rounds poured into it !!!
luvpump1 4 years ago
First shot was an bull's-eye
Jaeger123456789 4 years ago
definetly a PF- 476I6 or maybe a ST- 4013
29thID 4 years ago
Le singe jette des cocos aux personnages de marque du sommet du château d'eau.
aquinasss 4 years ago
Thank you for the video. My father flew a P-51 for army air recon. He would pre-fly an area to photo targets. that was the easy part. After the bombing, he would have to fly another mission to photo the bombing damage. That was the hard part because they always knew someone was always comming back to photo the damage and they were waiting for the return visit.
ssnitzer 4 years ago
Sounds like a bitch of a duty... my hat off to your dad.
aet75 4 years ago
why didnt any of those allies bombers have a rear gun turret ??????? the nazi planes just got in behind them and blew the shit out of them without taking any return fire
brankog7 4 years ago
those american planes took off with less than a min of ammo per gun.
65bigpete 4 years ago
Most of the attack videos on the bombers were "clean-up" actions. The bombers were already hit bad and trying to limp home. The rear and turret gunners were most likely dead as a doornail already. Look closely at the videos, and you will see the guns are turned down or out of action. Probably a dead body sumped over them.
greatgambino 4 years ago
they did and they fired aswell but the gun turrets werent always good protection
R4T23FUMM3L 4 years ago
B17s had a 2 .50 cal tail turret, and the same 2 50 cals in the dorsal(topside) and ventral ("ball") turret for behind and below. For the initial attack, the Germans preferred head on attacks because that reduced the amount of time they were exposed to gunfire, and made it harder for the gunners to line up a shot. Also, 20 and 30 mm autocannon do more damage in less time than heavy machine guns
FortunaFortesJuvat 4 years ago
true.
terryjohn 4 years ago
Let no one forget that this is real film footage. You are watching the last minutes of young brave men as they die a horrible death.
VeloxEtVindex 4 years ago
Very true... in that line of thought this are some gruesome footage
vascoa 4 years ago
What an AMAZING video collection. THANK YOU!!! Seeing these suberb aircraft perform in real life is nothing short of incredible.
Anyone doubting the technical superiority of the German forces in WWII needs their heads read.
aet75: The 190 D9 and ta-152 were absolutely superb fighters. They lacked the range of the P51 and (possibly, MW-50 injection wasn't tested post war properly) the speed of the Tempest, but saying the 190's could not keep up with Allied aircraft is plain wrong.
lawsjs 4 years ago
What I said above was that the 190 did keep up, but just barely. It never again owned like it did in -41.
aet75 4 years ago
The Nazis lost.
byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
DERVISHd01 4 years ago
FW 190 has speed, but isn't agile.. the spit has a tiny bit less speed (depends on the version on both planes naturally) but compensates with very good agility.
but for speed on the ally side there were also the american planes P51, P47 (very fast, heavy AC tho), P38.. those 3 are extremelyt fast.. on the late war came a few more even faster..
vascoa 4 years ago
What are you talking about? The FW-190 was a very agile plane and a superb design. The only thing it lacked was HIGH ALITUDE performance because the BMW 801 radial engine it sported wasn't designed for that. The FW-190D and Ta-152H took care of that problem but came too late, especially the Ta-152H.
jakemiller5000 4 years ago
well, hitler was stupid (thank god).. and also ill on second half of the war.. FW 190 is good, but its just a good match for spits.. not totally superior.. (FLY targetware(dot)net and u'll understand)
also production is very important, and germany just couldnt keep up with USA, UK and USSR united..
ALSO and VERY IMPORTANT, german enginnering is perfecionist.. which means delays to achieve that last detail..
vascoa 4 years ago
The early FW-190 beat the contemporary Spit Mk V in everything but turning radius. And turning radius alone won't get you anywhere. I'd say the 190 was a superior fighter; the Brits thought the same, and rushed the Mk IX into service. Thus I think (read: idly speculate) that the 190 would've made a huge impact in the BoB. Later in the war, the 190 series could barely keep up with the allied planes.
aet75 4 years ago
yes.. they FW was slightly superior to the MK V, I proved that in combat on TW already.. but just slightly, It needs a good pilot and balanced numbers in the air to use that advantage, and in BoB it could had changed the war, but later on was controled by allied numbers in the air and the attacks to its factories..
vascoa 4 years ago
I don't know what you proved on TW, or what it is, even. What I know is that air superiority reverted from the Brits to the Germans thanks to the FW-190.
aet75 4 years ago
TW is the web site of (in my point of view) one of the best Air combat sims, It has great flight models.. and planes are intended as real as possible. The Sim is free for download and to fly (for now).. you may find other sims with better eye candies, but not with best Flight models.
vascoa 4 years ago
Ok, thanks for the info. I'll check out.
aet75 4 years ago
What I proved was during an event were we were about 5 to 5, Spits V and FW190s, I was flying axis and we controled the fight due to the use of superior speed.
Altho at close combat the spit is more agile, it depends on the type of fight and on the pilots. Generally FW is a better at B&Z (zoom and boom),but later Spit versions with more powerful engines balanced again the odds.
vascoa 4 years ago
Um, you're talking about a computer game. It can be "as real as possible" means shit. It's game - and probably biased too.
jakemiller5000 4 years ago
aet75, how do you consider the RAF a failure in the Battle of Britain? They met the main objective, to prevent the German invasion? However, the RAF spitfires met failure in France before the battle of britain. But during the battle of britain, the British were on the defensive.
atlanticl 4 years ago
Read more carefully before jumping your keyboard. I was referring to a bombing campaign against Berlin that the RAF dubbed the BATTLE OF BERLIN, which was, by all accounts, a complete failure.
aet75 4 years ago
well...they lost some battles...but they won the war
atlanticl 4 years ago
No shit.
aet75 4 years ago
how the german lost this war look this stupid american
abudullahgocer 4 years ago
Wtf are you on about? There are many thing you can't be absolutely certain about, but Germany losing WW2 is one of them. Btw I'm Finnish.
aet75 4 years ago
Another thing I want to also clarify aet75. They suspended bombing raids deep inside the Reich; such as Paris, Berlin..the hearts of German industry. They had P-47's before the Mustangs, but not the range. Bombings still went on, but only on the "shores" or close to it like in Bremen..etc.
atlanticl 4 years ago
...in other words up till the range of the P-47's, Spitfires, and Hurricanes fighters.
atlanticl 4 years ago
Paris? A heart of German industry? Oh come on man, that's just utter nonsense! And, apart from RAF's failed 'Battle of Berlin', the German capital was not seriously attacked until the very end of the war.
The heart of the German industry was, and still is, the Ruhr region.
aet75 4 years ago
oh my mistake...but back then...majority of the vital manufacturing plants were deep inside france and germany...
atlanticl 4 years ago
aet75: 2 things I must point. 1.) Germany was not facing vast manpower and material strength of the west but also the vast manpower and material strenth of the West, and it's imported allies such as India, West Indies..etc.
atlanticl 4 years ago
Looking at numbers, it is obvious that the war was decided on the eastern front. The bombing campaign did contribute (although not as much as is generally thought), but it did not cause Germany to lose the war.
aet75 4 years ago
And ASIA??? lol....dude....go read a book on India and Pakistan...lol..we didn't have any enemies in Asia back then...nor now..except each other.... The only possible closest enemies were the Germans in Egypt, in which my grandfather also took part in; actually worked for railroad supplying the British
atlanticl 4 years ago
But the Brits did, namely Japan. Go read a book. The African theater was peanuts, the war was decided elsewhere.
aet75 4 years ago
that is true...but the brits also used manpower from it's colonies against the Germans too, and among them were from the Indian subcontinent. And I don't have read a book. I know pretty much a lot about all the WWII players already. A lot that is not even told in mainstream books!
atlanticl 4 years ago
Yes they did, but not on a decisive scale. Did you know that many Indians captured by the Axis in North Africa volunteered to fight against the allies (Indian Legion)?
aet75 4 years ago
no I never knew that? DEFINITELY not something mentioned in history. But to no surprise as almost all Indians wanted the oppressing British regime out of India.
atlanticl 4 years ago
Yes, that was the reason exactly. They did not have too much trust from the German high command, so they saw very limited action. At the end of the war, the Indian contingent (as the Indische Freiwilligen Legion der Waffen SS), was captured near Switzerland as it tried to cross the border.
aet75 4 years ago
Sorry, but West Indies? Important allies?!? And India was more engaged in the war in Asia. I now realize you're totally clueless. Over and out.
aet75 4 years ago
I'm sorry to say that you don't know much about former British colonies. I know this because I am from Pakistan, and I know my country's history very well. Much of the South East Asians also took part with the British to bring down the Third Reich.
atlanticl 4 years ago
In a way it was a secret arrangement with the Indian people (Pakistan was part of India) that if they help win the war, they will let go of India...as they had no other choice since Battle of Britain and the early years of WWII seriously took a toll on the British armed forces; so they couldn't keep it for long.
atlanticl 4 years ago
and the other thing you have to understand is..there was a freedom struggle going on in India before the war, and whatever is happening in Iraq was happening there. Making this "secret" proposal was the only way the British deemed possible to withdraw and not lose face with a forced defeat.
atlanticl 4 years ago
english bomber command lost 60,000 men come the wars end.. by any evaluation those were horrendous losses.. the figure equals the number of people, civilians, killed in london in the course of the war.
ColdChicago 4 years ago