The Ten Commandments-Should we still follow them?

[NewLife1996]

John 1:17

For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

[WakeUpPeople123]

Yes, we should absolutely positively follow the 10 commandments... These are 10 commandments that were written in stone and never to change....

[Myhopeisinhim]

@WakeUpPeople123

Have you ever heard the ten commandments be referred to as the "ministration of death"?

[2tires]

I do believe you are sadly mistaken UNLESS you can show me scripture where either Jesus or Paul makes a divide in the Law. If you can't then when the bible says Christ nailed the handwritten ordanances to the cross it is ALL of the Law. You also have to show where Moses never wrote the 10c's in scripture by hand.But you can't because we read the 10c's in the bible because Moses wrote them. Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

[Morehnathanyael]

@2tires If you dont obey the law you go to hell! there is a distinction in the law, just a shame that you christians reaqlly do not understand the book that was given by God to the Hebrew Israelites

[2tires]

@Morehnathanyael If you don't believe the gospel that was revealed to Paul by Christ then you will be judge by the 10c's.

Ex. 20:1 God spake. Ex. 24:3 God stops talking. Ex. 20 contains the 10c's, following that is the rest of the law. Ex.24:4 And Moses wrote all the words of the LORD....Ex.

24:7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient

A divide in the law? I think not.

[Morehnathanyael]

@2tires You dont know what you are talking about! You are preaching Christianity! I am preaching Bible doctrine! Paul did not teach the law was done away with and we dont have to do it! that is ridiculous! No ten commandments!s. Yes you and every other christian that believes this hellbound lie are seriously biblically illiterate!

[2tires]

@Morehnathanyael It is amazing that you can spue out how I am hell bound for preaching Christianity when I have quoted scriptures. For one who preaches bible doctrine you seem to be lacking when it comes to giving scripture to prove you position. So why don't you stop condemning me to hell and give me scripture where there is a divide in the law. I already showed you in Ex. 20 to Ex 24 where the LORD ties the 10c's with the rest ot the law.

[Morehnathanyael]

@2tires My friend christianity is not ordained By God! Christianity is a pagan religion with pagan doctrines mixed with the bible. Christians absolutely have the wrong understanding of what is being said!. Do you understand that there is a thing called the sacrificial laws! Those are the only laws we are not responsible for! A divide in the law Oh my goodness! we dont perform sacrifices today because of the messiah! But that does not mean the rest of the law is done away with!

[2tires]

@Morehnathanyael Acts 11:26 ....the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. The "institutional church" has problems that is for sure and is riddled with things that are pagan. And yes, they have a wrong understanding of scriptures. I don't claim to know it all but, I know that there is no divide made in the law by Christ or Paul. I have posed this challange to several people & I am still waiting for someone to give scripture showing a divide in the law.

[2tires]

@Morehnathanyael I understand that the bible was written to the Jews and the OT acually runs from Genesis to the book of Acts. That is why you see the apostles still practicing law keeping in the book from Matt. to Acts. Jesus never rescinded the law while on earth. He assigned Paul to preach grace. Gal. 5:18] But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

[Morehnathanyael]

@2tires You have the wrong concept of grace and law! Grace does not push aside law! Grace is a period of time. It is a grace period. For man to get himself in order with Gods laws! If you have the spirit of God then you should be able to obey his commandments! Payl also said in Romans 8 that the carnal mind is enmity against god and that it is not subject to the law of God neither indeed can be. You must be in the spirit to obey God. It can be done!

[2tires]

@Morehnathanyael If the sacrifical law is all we are not responsible for then you must mean that the rest of the law we are to keep including circumsion. Read Acts 15:1-5 they say to obey the law of Moses. Moses was the " go between " between God and the people & gave the Jews ALL the law. So Actss 15:5 is ALL of the law. Acts 21:21.... thou [Paul] teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses.....

[shadapple]

Trust me, I keep the commandments...naturally...whe­n you receive the Holy Spirit (and it leads you into all truth). For instance...you wanna know the TRUE parable of the Fig Tree....he already tols us before he said it in Mathew 24. And if you want witness to the "parable of the Fig Tree" (I don't see "riddles" though, they make perfect sense to me)...read Mathew 24, then read the 5th and 6th seals in Revelation, they match perfectly. (Revelation 5&6)

[shadapple]

If we are in Christ...we keep the commandments. 1 Worship God (commandments 1-4, if you love him, you don't keep nor worship false idols or images, there is 1 God) 2.Love each other (commandments 5-6, If you love each other, you do not bear false witness against someone, you do not steal from someone, nor cheat on your wife with someone else's wife...etc.) And the Sabbath is in the LORD (come to me and find "rest") The Son of man is LORD even of the Sabbath day...Mathew 12:8.

[LiquidSmooth]

Good video. helped me out alot. I am not Seventh Day Adventist. I don't follow any denomination.

Recently at work, I have had problems cause they are trying to make me work 7 days a week, and i told them I cant work from sundown Friday through sundown Saturday. So wasn't sure if I was gonna get suspended or fired. So i wanted to be clear I was really doing the right thing.

This video helped set me at ease. It looks clear and obvious.

[henrygarza7]

The word comprehended, if you look in the dictionary you will find that it means: #1 understand, #2 include, #3 covering completely or broadly. The word include means: #1 to take in or comprise as a part of whole. So those 6 commandments make that one whole commandment.

[ndyt]

Religion is a fairytale and its practice is a cult.

[DigitalPraise7]

yes 1GoodAngel I tire as well from typing the same things over and over to people who just don't seem to get it! LOL!

[1GoodAngel]

oh. okay, sorry, never heard that one before...lol. ;)

[Roxxoxo]

Rom 10:3-10 and Let 18:5 The Jews would get life by obeying the Mosaic Law. Those works would declare them righteous. But Christians enter into "God's rest" which has been going on for centuries. We enter not by works of Law, but by faith in Jesus. Our Sabbath resting is everyday.

But if one has faith in Jesus, there will be wroks to show that faith, for faith w/o works is dead.--James 2:26

[1GoodAngel]

Yes, except for it wasn't called teh "Mosaic Law" it was referred to as "The book of Law" (but that didn't include the 10-commandments, the Book of Law was written by Moses, but the 10-comm were written by God, and the Book of Law was placed on the SIDE of the arc, where as the 10-comm was placed INSIDE the arc below the "throne", which represented the "throne of God in Heaven", which also means that the 10-comm are the base of God's kingdom in Heaven)

[Roxxoxo]

There are different Sabbaths. Gen 2:2,3 says that God rested on the 7th day from all his work that he had made. That 7th day has not ended. It has so far lasted just over 6,000 years. Heb 3:8,9,11 says that the Jews did not enter into God's rest, because they were disobedient. Heb 4:4-11 says that we can enter into God's rest today (everyday) by obeying God. For Christians, God's "day" of rest is everyday--everyday we rest from our own works (works that we did to prove ourselves righteous).

[1GoodAngel]

But the 10-commandments also says that the 7th-day is the Sabbath (which was the same as the creation week Sabbath,also the same that was kept during Noah's time)

Also if this was the case, then we wouldn't have to work or do anything except for worship God on any day of the week (cuz that's what happened in Genesis, God rested from EVERYTHING).

[1GoodAngel]

This is correct though, there were different "ceremonial sabbaths", but they were distinctly different than the weekly 7th-day sabbath... (some examples were the Day of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles, etc, etc, all of which were called yearly sabbaths)

[1GoodAngel]

Of course we should follow God everyday by obeying him (and by obeying his commandments,) but that doesn't mean that we have to "rest" every day of the week. This wouldn't be possible...

[Myhopeisinhim]

@Roxxoxo

"For Christians, God's "day" of rest is everyday--everyday we rest from our own works (works that we did to prove ourselves righteous)."

Well said:)

[1GoodAngel]

Once again though, if Jesus had done away with the 10-commandments, I truely believe He would have simply said, "Do not follow the 10-commandments anymore, do what you think is best." But instead he clearly stated "If you love me, keep my commandments". Also Revelation 22:14 says "Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city." (I personally think that's pretty clear also...)

[Roxxoxo]

Because of our love for God and for neighbor, Christians would not commit idolatry, would hallow God's name, would honor parents, would not murder, would not commit adultery nor fornication, would not lie, steal, etc. Christ's law does not include any of the sabbaths.

[1GoodAngel]

But why would God have made the 10-commandments in the first place if he only inteneded us to follow 9 of them. Wouldn't he have made the 9-commandments instead??

[Roxxoxo]

The Sabbath was a reminder to the Jews of their deliverance from Egypt. Deut 5:15 explains that.

[1GoodAngel]

The sabbath was made long before they were delivered from Egypt, and long before any Jew even existed! (Genesis 2:2). The Sabbath was created as a remembrance that God created the earth, and that we need at least one day a week to rest and to worship Him.

Deut 5:12-15 is all just talking about honoring the Sabbath day. And this is related to the creation week in the fact that God just wanted the Isralites to remember who was God and who brought them out of Egypt...

[Roxxoxo]

The 10 Commandments were the main laws of the law covenant to Israel. Under each Commandment were various laws having to do with that particular commandment. They were good laws and they served their purpose. Gal 3:24,25 says that the Law was a tutor leading to Christ, and we are no longer under that tutor.

[1GoodAngel]

Exactly. But as mentioned in other replies, the 10-commandments were seperated from all of those laws (also known as the Book of Law or called ceremonial laws.) for two main reasons, Moses wrote the Book of Laws, but God wrote the 10-commandments with his own fingers! And the 10-comm was placed InSIDE the arc, where as the Book of Laws was placed on the SIDE of the arc...

[Roxxoxo]

John 14:15 says: "If you love me, you'll keep my commandments." It didn't say the 10 commandments. Remember, while Jesus was alive and as a Jew, Jesus had to obey the Mosaic Law, including the 10 Commandments. Jesus said that the 2 greatest commandments are not of the 10 Commandments.

[1GoodAngel]

Once again, the 10-commandments ARE based upon LOVE, which Jesus said is the greatest commandment of all.

[1GoodAngel]

Roxxoxo, more than anything, I personally continue to live by the 10-commandments because it is the safest way to go. Think about it this way... The Old Testament is pretty clear about them, and that God wrote them with his own hand(everything else he instrusted to humans,) and even began the 4th comamndment with "Remember.."

To me,this is the safest way to go because it is written clearly in the bible. And in the end, Jesus (or God,) can't say that I'm wrong, because its written in His word!

[Roxxoxo]

Well, Col 2:14,16 says that Christ wiped out the handwriting of requirements (Mosaic Law, including the 10, Commandments), by nailing it to the tree; so let no one judge you in food, in drink, festival, new moon OR SABBATHS.

[1GoodAngel]

It doesn't say the 10-commandments, actually... The laws that "were wiped out" were the ones the "foreshadowed things to come" and "were contrary against us" the 10-commandments does not fit either of those categories... The only thing that fits those and ALSO refers to food, drink, new moon and sabbath days is the "ceremonial laws" discussed in Leviticus 23. Also contained in "The Book of Law" (written by Moses, NOT God). Once again, watch Forerunner777's video, explains that in detail.

[1GoodAngel]

Also Psalms 119:44 "So shall I keep Your law continually, forever and ever." (keep in mind this was written before Jesus was on earth and had said that love is the greatest command of all, so this verses has to be referring to the 10-commandments...)

[1GoodAngel]

Roxxoxo, please check out the video that I just made entitled The Ten Commandments-Were they nailed to the cross... I explained what law this verse (Col 2:14, 16-17) is referring to. Its called the Book of law (or also known as Moses' law)

[joselinema]

@Roxxoxo The 4th commandment is about the beginning of God's creation,it is very important that we keep the Sabath. Nice video and very clear.

[Roxxoxo]

One of Christ's commandments to his followers is found at Matt 28:19,20. There we are told to continue the preaching and teaching work that Jesus did. This work would be done on a global scale (Matt 24:14). I thought I'd mention that command, because most people I talk to like to keep their beliefs to themselves, saying that they have their own religion. But Jesus gave us a topic to preach about...the kingdom(Matt 24:14) It's a royal government in heaven with Jesus as king.

[1GoodAngel]

Good point actually, I never thought of it that way before, but since you are making me think, (thank-you,) Matt 28:19,20 also makes my point cuz Jesus said "If you love Me, keep my Commandments." And since Jesus is God, God's commandments would also be Jesus'. So, we should teach others to also follow the 10-commandments....

[1GoodAngel]

Matthew 24:14 is just saying that the gospel has to be preached to the entire world before the end of the world will come...

[Roxxoxo]

Yes! When Jesus began his ministry, he preached the kingdom--Matt 4:23.Luke 8:1 shows how he instructed his 12 apostles to preach the kingdom. Luke 10:1,9 tells how Jesus instructed 70 of his disciples to go out in groups of twos and preach the kingdom. It's the theme of the Bible and the theme of Jesus' preaching message. Matt 24:14 foretold that his disciple would preach it in the last days. It's an important message!

[1GoodAngel]

OF COURSE!! Nothing is better than looking forward to going to Heaven!!(Yippeee, we agree. hehe) But what does this have to do with keeping the Sabbath and the 10-commandments??

[Roxxoxo]

I was mentioning another of Christ's commands that is overlooked. (Matt 24:14, 28:19,20)

[1GoodAngel]

Which by the way, is very, very, very close :)

[Roxxoxo]

Since Jesus didn't divide the Mosaic Law into Ceremonial and 10 Words, why do you?

Which is the greatest commandment? Jesus said that these two are the greatest commandments--Deut 6:5 and Levit 19:18. Why do you say that the 10 Words are the greatest?

Jesus obeyed the Mosaic Law because he was a Jew and the Law was still binding while he was alive.

[1GoodAngel]

The ceremonial laws were practiced as a preceding for Jesus 2 come to earth.Hence,the reason the curtain 2 the tabernacle ripped from top to bottom at His death,symbolizing that sacrifices were no longer needed cuz the ultimate sacrifice was paid.The 10-comm. are not ceremonial-they didn't "lead up to" Jesus'coming to earth. Sacrificing the lamb, for ex., was the only way(before Jesus died,)that they could have their sins forgiven-that's why the ceremonies were done away with.

[1GoodAngel]

Before I address the 2 greatest commandments...Why do you call the 10-commandments(or God's law) 10 words?(It was never once called this in the entire bible)

Jesus called Love the greatest commandment of all because it is!Think about it this way,if the entire world was based upon love,this world would be a great place to live.With that said,that's why God gave us the 10-commandments(to show us how to love Him and others.)The 1st 4 tell us how to love God, & the last 6 tell us how to love man.

[Roxxoxo]

(10 Words--because I didn't want to keep writing out the long word "commandments.") Look up "Decalogue" (deca=ten, logos=word) in the dictionary. There it defines it as the Ten Commandments. It was called that in the Greek Septuagint.

[1GoodAngel]

Okay, so Jesus obeyed ALL the laws (both the ceremonial ones and the 10 commandments,) but why, then, did all of the bible writers (inspired by the Holy Spirit,)after his death also follow the 10-commandments? (both Jews and Gentiles.)

[Roxxoxo]

Where does it say that? I'm not putting you on the spot, I just want to know why you think that.

[1GoodAngel]

Where does it say what? Sorry, it didn't repost it under whatever I had said, it posted it back at the top...

[1GoodAngel]

Oh, okay, sorry, Please check out Forerunner777 video intited "Which law was nailed to the cross" Its the first video under my favorites (he explains it all). Honestly, I'm kind of getting tired of typing, and that would be a lot... ;)

[Roxxoxo]

I can't read your video, because the words blend in with the picture.

The Jews divided the OT in 3 sections: The Law of Moses (first 5 books), the Prophets, & Psalms--Luke 24:44. The 10 Commandments (10 Words) are part of the Mosaic Law. Jesus didn't divide them into Ceremonial Laws & The 10 Words. Look at how he mixed them together at Matt5:17-48.The Law includes vs21 "must not murder," vs 27 "not commit adultery," vs 31 "whoever divorces wife," vs 33 "must not swear," vs 38 "eye for an eye"

[1GoodAngel]

I re-posted the same video with a diff color. click on"more from 1GoodAnge",its called"Should we still follow the 10-commandments?"Also my videos called"How to tell which day is the Sabbath" & "12 Truths about the Sabbath."They are both on this same subject.

Yes,& the Jews still do that today, does that mean that they are right?They also don'tbelieve in Jesus.They don't read the New Testament.BTW,the Jews' bibles today r in a diff order than ours.They go exactly by the order u just named.

[1GoodAngel]

During His entire time on earth,Jesus quoted scriptures(obviously the Old Test. cuz thats all they had at the time.)But he wouldn't quote the entire thing,just portions of it,& then He would mix it with something else-this is how He would relate to everyone in His audience.Notice that He does that every time(not just in this one instance.)But in THIS case,He WAS quoting from the 10-comm law cuz that's the only law that states not to murder, or commit adultry, or use the Lord's name in vain,etc.

[1GoodAngel]

Knowing a bit about the Jews, even today they are like this. They will be talking about something, and then mix it up with something else, and then go back to what they were originally talking about. That's why most of the entire bible is written like that, and you have to really study to figure out what they are talking about, and why its always "jumping" around...

[Roxxoxo]

Christians follow Jesus' commandments and not Moses' commandments.

[1GoodAngel]

So all the verses that I gave you(down below)you(and other christians) r supposed 2 just ignore?

BTW, they were NOT Moses' commandments,they were God's-written with his own hand(the only thing in the entire bible written by God's own hands instead of through a human!)

And Jesus IS God.So therefore God's commandments ARE also Jesus' commandments! Once again, read Matthew 5:17...

But is is correct that"Moses' laws"(the ceremonial sacrifices,etc in Exodus) were done away with at the cross

[Roxxoxo]

Christian laws are the commands Jesus gave to his followers. For example, Jesus said at John13:34,35"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another as I have loved you...By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another."

Jesus died for his disciples; his love was self-sacrificing.

Deut 5:2,3 tells us that God gave the Israelites 10 Commandments.

1Cor9:21 says that Christians are under law toward Christ. We have to obey Jesus.

[1GoodAngel]

yes.very true.but Love IS the base of the 10 commandments,and that's what Jesus meant. The first 4 of the 10 tell us how to love God, and the last 6 tell us how to love one another (other men)...So, yes, the 10 commandments are based upon Jesus' command to love one another. He wasn't saying to no longer follow God's 10 commandments.And if we have love for God and for one another then others(non-christians)will be able to tell that we are his followers (christians).That's what Jesus was saying...

[Roxxoxo]

The apostle Paul said that the law is no longer binding on the Jews. Rom 7:6,7"now we've been delivered from the law...Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except thru the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, 'You shall not covet.'" The 10 commandments is part of the 600+ laws given to Moses. All of it was abolished at Christ's death. See, Paul said "You shall not covet" (10th Commandment) is part of the law.

[1GoodAngel]

Roxxoxo, I'm guessing that you didn't watch the entire video, because it explains exactly that. The laws that your verse is talking about were all of the "jewish" laws made during Moses' time and prior, for instance circucism, and the sacrifice of lambs, and their ceremonial laws (the book of Exodus has all the details.) The 10-commandments are not included because God wrote them with his own hand, and even Jesus said that the law will last forever.

[1GoodAngel]

Just to review this video, some of the verses that say this are: (Matthew 5:17) "Think not that I have come to destroy the law. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill"(We can tell that Jesus himself is talking about the 10commandments because this is the law that he followed by and as you quoted, the other laws were done away with. Also, once again its the ONLY law that God wrote with his own hand, so it must have been super important!)

[1GoodAngel]

(James 2:10)"For whosoever shall keep the whole law,but yet offend in one point,he is guilty of all."and the next verse makes it clear that James is talking about the 10-commandments(James 2:11).So why would he have written this if all of the laws along with the 10-commandments were done away with?

(1 John 2:4)"For he that saith,I know him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar,and the truth is not in him."Once again,why would he have said this if the 10-comman(God's law)was done away with?

[1GoodAngel]

(Psalms 19:7)"The law of the LORD is perfect,converting the soul."There was(and still is)only ONE law that is absolutely perfect,and only one law that if you follow completely will convert your soul to love God and love every man.

(Matthew 5:18)"I tell you,as long as heaven and earth endure,not one dotting of the 'i' or crossing of the 't' will be removed from the law until it is all observed."Jesus followed the 10-commandment law and then said that we should strive to live like him(1 John 2:6)

[1GoodAngel]

(Numbers 23:20)"He hath blessed it,and I cannot reverse it"(1Chronicles 17:27)"For thou blessest it O Lord,and it shall be blessed forever."(Revelation 22:14)"Blessed are those who do his commandments,that they may have the right to the tree of life,and may enter through the gates into the city."Why would John have written this if him we no longer have to follow His commandments? Basically he is saying that if we follow God's commandments we will be in Heaven. :) (How great is that!)

[1GoodAngel]

And last but definately not least, I will leave you with a direct quote from Jesus... (John 14:15) "If you love me, keep my commandments."

I personally don't think Jesus could have gotten any clearer than that! Jesus himself never said "not" to follow the law, but in this verse, he very clearly states to follow it. (because if you love Him, then you should want to obey Him and follow his commandments.)

[1GoodAngel]

Reading back from awhile ago... You quoted "1Cor9:21 says that Christians are under law toward Christ. We have to obey Jesus."

We have to obey Jesus, but we also have to strive to live our lives like Jesus did. And one of the things that Jesus did was follow the 10-commandments. Infact, he even stated that If you love Him, you will follow them. (John 14:15).

[Roxxoxo]

No. Christians follow Christian laws. (The 10 commandments were for the Jews.)

[1GoodAngel]

What are these "christian laws" that you are talking about? The only law God blessed, sanctified AND made holy were the 10 commandments (so they must be pretty important). It is also the only law in the entire bible that he stated to "Remember"! Please read my entire video, it will tell you why the 10 commandments were not just for the jews... (They were given to "all people")

[al147316]

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

John 14:6