The most philosophical game ever ? The original game is more in this way than Human Revolution, and the MGS series can easily get quite philosophical too, to quote only one example.
@DeshtarXallum You can't directly compare the two games, both sport excellent philosophical quandaries in their own way. The original game has much in the themes of Governments, Human Society and "Men Behind Kings." Human Revolution offers more in the way of Ethics, Morality and Humanism.
But MGS? Please, that game sports pseudo-intellectual babble bordering on the self-ridicule by the boatload. Not in the same league as DX games.
@Gonaho To be honest, I've only seen one Let's Play of MGS1 and only the cutscenes for the rest. I'll admit that MGS2 is outlandish, and the 4 sports some ridiculous things, as a whole, I'll let everyone to his/her own opinion.
Concerning the two games, I still remember the original having more dialogues going this way. I'm not sure, in the end, that DE is the "most philosophical game ever".
Who else sees a similar perversion in ACTA. A way to give control over our lives into the hands of major corporations. All in effort to get more power into specific points of interest represented by a chosen few.
All this while sacrificing all the freedoms we, as human beings, have been embracing since modern times.
With ACTA we would be put back into the situation we were in during the middle ages. Peasants(the people) and nobility and aristocracy(corporations)
@adam100115 I did, and let me explain why. Technological progress is the absolute only hope humanity has to eliminate the problems facing us. We can't just will the problems away, we can't rely on the good will of a few individuals to do it, we need to come together and develop new means of interacting with the world, and the universe, around us. Sure, I wouldn't like to see all the power in corporate hands, but at least there it can one day be claimed by the people.
@DragonKnightDrazil yeah the only problem with power is that it corrupts people you might say that right now but if you ever have this power you will not willingly let go of it. that's how it is mate. I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying human's greed for power is too big
@asaqe3 Man, in first Deus Ex there were references to some sayings of particular person on each endings. This should have been shown at this ending :D
This was the option that I choosed on my first gamethrough, and I don't regret it.
The human enhacement tecnology would bring us more problems that benefits if it's freely distributed to the people or if it's used as a potential control tool for the main powers. Science must always look for the progress of humanity, but without changing who we are as species.
This is without doubt one of the best games of these years.
You know, I also think that this ending is the best because it has Adam transform from his experiences. I know IGN posted an editorial about Deus Ex: Human Revolution's story not truly being a story because no one transformed, but I think in this ending Adam really does change due to what he sees on his "adventures". I know I did. When I started this game I didn't think there were any good reasons to worry about human enchancement tech. When I finished, I certainly did.
I LOVED the story of this game by the time it got to the end. So powerful and genuinely thought provoking...but I didn't like how they make Adam sound like a luddite in this ending. I chose this ending not because I was against human enhancement, but because it was the TRUTH. Humanity would be able to manage the risks of human augmentation best if they knew the truth. I seriously doubt it would cause people to abandon it altoghether.
@TheWoodenChainsaw That's a very interesting interpretation of that detail.
I think that it has sense, because in the firsts Deus Ex games (which continue the story of this one) the human enhacement technology has been continued and improved on behalf of the interests of many world powers, meaning that Darrow's attempt to stop what he began was purely in vain.
This game, Metal Gear Solid (all of them), and Assassin's Creed (all of them) make for the best mind blowing fiction/non-fiction gaming stories ever. Better than most movies and anything on TV now-a-days. These games hold the answers to the future and to the past. Its such a beautiful how much they can make you think about everything, about life, about the Earth, Universe, religion, and all different types of philosophical subjects..I give this game a 10/10..Easily. Glad I got to experience this
Even though this game got 9's and 10's..There is a reason this game is still so underrated...the game blatantly used the "i" word enough times to tell you the answer why.
What are you talking about? At least half of my life has been spent in front of the television, mindlessly pounding buttons on an xbox controller while my eyes glaze over and a thin spittle of drool slowly makes its way down my shirtfront! I've only been away from the xbox for five minutes and I'm already having heart palpitations!
@breeeegs While I don't claim to know what the absolute pinnacle of philosophy in gaming is the following are all as good as, and many better than, DE:HR when it comes to philosphy: the first Deus Ex, the System Shock games, Bioshock, Metal Gear Solid 2, the Legacy of Kain series and Morrowind. I haven't played Planescape: Torment, but that's meant to be up there. Some people will say Ico or SotC, I personally disagree on those two.
@EimhinMacGabhan Absolutely correct choice, just try Planescape: Torment it is one of the top, also try Anachronox, FallOut 2 & 3, and Metro 2033. Metro 2033 is new game based on young russian author's book by the same name.
@kestenj I've heard good things about all those games, apart from Anachronox, which I hadn't heard of at all before, but I'll be sure to check it out. Thanks.
@EimhinMacGabhan Warning thou: beware of Fallout 3: New Vegas, it is expansion to the core game and it sucks utterly. It is good fps to kill free time but ain't a quality game. I refered to the Core only, that is great success. Also to add one more game to list, Jade Empire, not as much philosophical but great and exciting story-line.
Hey Dogmas McGee, I didn't know you were the arbiter of good games. New Vegas is basically Fallout 3 with more weapons, far more quests, a more engaging story, a richer and more believable world, and more choices (for example, being able to play the game for one faction or another). What could be bad about that?
@Puglous Nothing really bad about choosing different faction and that kind of variety of gameplay is good. But what you said about more weapons, there lies the problem, at least i think of it that way. It's not really the apocalypse if you have tons of weapons and Ammo! and everything is shinning... I finished game with about 2k ammo for each weapon i had. Didn't like it.
@breeeegs : I played the second Deus Ex first (and was grateful, it introduced me to the kickass band "kidneythieves"), and that one was phenomenal. Last year I finally played the first Deus Ex; it was really good, and I imagine it must have been mindblowing back when it was released. But each sequel has definitely improved on the last, imho.
yeah if you chose this ending... you might as well turn off your internet. your computer. your cell phone. everything science has given to you. otherwise you're pretty much a huge hypocrite.
@schafbo You only need to turn off your futuristic augmented arm with the ability to transform into a minigun, and stop kidnapping people and turning them into robotic super-soldiers.....Oh wait...
Every video has some good points, the three of them should be welded together to form a better decision. I picked that one for regulations, people shouldn't cut off limbs and remove other stuff and replace it with metal parts.
im sorry, but i do not agree. Darrow was 100% human and he proved to be the most vicious of them all. It's not augmentations that threaten humanity, it's just other people. Power-hungry people like Taggard, like Sarif, like Darrow, like Zhao, like Page. It does not take augmentations to corrupt a man and drive him to forfeit his humanity. After playing this game, I understood this.
@KCChiefsAdams Sarif went too far with adams operation, without his consent, because he is obsessed with progress by all means. He is willing to do anything to see that progress happen. The fact that he is a likable guy doesnt mean he is suddenly without any accountability.
Perhaps. That still don't make Sarif "power-hungry", though. Sarif is more like the exact opposite of the Illuminati. He's an idealist and his actions are aimed at making his ideal about bettering mankind come true, not at granting him personal power.
@Magni56 it is still power he seeks, for himself and others. and he has questionable ethics. he is not in the same league as the illuminati, his motives differ, thats true.
Nah, if Sarif were after personal power, his actions plain wouldn't make sense. Yeah, his ethical conduct is questionable, but in the end he's an idealist, an utopian who sees augs as a way to solve mankinds problems. It was never about about personal gain for him, except in as much as that gain would help him further his ideals. Which is what imo sets him apart from the Illuminati, who are after getting pwoer to themselves first.
@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
Also, it has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
"Technology gives us strength. Strength enables dominance, and dominance paves the way for abuse."
This 'reasoning' is so over-reductive that it's laughable. This would mean that all governments are bad too, because by its very definition a government must dominate or else it has no authority. Why don't we just abolish nation states along with all science and technology? Yeah, that'll create a better world.
The other three endings are better, but cannot save this game from how dumb it is.
@lingocode Darrow was not an anarchist, and this ending does not represent anarchism or politics in any way. These endings are about morality. It isn't a luddite ending either. Darrow is a selfish knob that wants to eliminate augs for everyone just because they didn't work for him. If you did the conversation with him correctly, you will see that. The game then makes this quantum leap and tries to dress up his selfishness as some sort of benevolent anti-scientific virtue for his ending.
@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
@lingocode, it isn't has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
And @lingocode, it isn't has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
And @lingocode, it isn't has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
Also, it has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
Also, it has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
Best game of the year no doubt, best game of all time-for me yes for others may not be because it's not GTA or Crysis...This game actually has a message,it's not typical game made just to make money.Hope this has a sequel...
@PorscheLover87 This was, in my opinion, the only option. Sarif would have created monsters, Taggart would have borne slaves and killing everyone, including yourself, didn't solve a damn thing - it just delayed the inevitable need to find a way to work things out.
@bankaikun94 I agree, but a majority of technology will be the downfall of humanity more than anything. We use and makes things that hurt more than than they help.
@LucasimoTheGreat It can mostly be blamed upon the corrupted greedy elites. War, lies, genocide, all for profit.
The past 100s of years, we've been innovating on how to kill one another. Indeed this type of technology has risen such impressive standards. But imagine if we diverted to the other direction, and been thinking for the good of mankind for those 100s of years.
@bankaikun94 True, but look at other forms of technology besides weapons. The discovery of oil and gas to fuel a vehicles and other devices, both capable of causing damage to the earth and all of its inhabitants, human and nonhuman. Weapons I don't consider technology, they're tools made to kill and that is their sole purpose. However many more things have been created which are more harmful to us human and to our bodies. Corrupt leaders only do things we the people allow them to do.
@bankaikun94 Are you serious? So we've made no medical advancements? We haven't cured any diseases? Haven't developed new things such as prostheses for amputees? There are many MANY things we've done other than make new ways to kill each other. Sure that's happened too but then sometimes you need force. And to blame the 'elites' is bullshit. Their power is given to them by the masses and they could take it back if they worked at it.
@betrthansum "And to blame the 'elites' is bullshit. Their power is given to them by the masses and they could take it back if they worked at it"
The public indeed elects its leaders, but who picks the candidates? Who finances their campaigns, who gives them airtime? You can't speak of a democracy when there are only two parties to choose from who are basically the same. About taking away the power of a president, I guess you never heard of this guy called Bush.. 22% approval rating in the end.
Hands down all 4 endings are not only very well written and realistic but they are also all satisfying which is very surprising for multiple ending game.
I choose this ending one because i always remember the line: "Technology will be man's downfall"
I believe that people in this game got all figured it out already, i mean, there's alex jones-like guy on every radio! I think they are aware of illuminati, even if the mainstream doesn't tell them that.
I chose this ending, yet I was torn between it and Taggart's. However, the flaw I saw in Taggarts was that the rules and regulations would all be under the Illuminati's eyes and pull. Humanity would never truly abandon science and technology. I saw this as a wakeup call ending. One that would allow humanity to be more cautious with the technology and science they create.
i wonder what adam did after that ....reed left him i wonder what will happen next he cant just fade away without a reason i wish the same people would do a dx4...
adam needed more story it was supposed to see adams story also :S
i only know his ex he used to be in swat and he got kicked because he left
then i know he join sarif (end) adam is much more emotional then denton was
in my opinion this isnt just a game...this showed me how life really is..and could be.this actualy showed me how could industries and and the rulers of the world can control us.
@mkvetak you are correct this exactly the route were taking just look right now you have genetic engineered cells,organs and cybernetic implants cpus to control the brain to stop parkinsons disease neuro enchancment chips that can allow you to control prostetic legs,arms etc.And even now cpu chips that allow humans to control machines via mind control its only a matter of time before someone just like this game decides to play god and wish to have control over everyone.
then go to pop sci chose science and health and you will see things you never knew existed synthetic lungs and skin nano circuits its crazy how real this game is and will be
@alienbishop wouldn't he die? i thought it was a robocop mission, they 'auged' him up to save his life... or did they just screw him over and decided to just take advantage
I thought that thing at the end was just a LIMB clinic shutting down with an abandoned aug project left on the operating table, showing that people had turned their backs on the idea of augmentation. I wasn't aware that it is/might be Adam's arm or any of his other implants.
if he had all his implants removed he would probably be reduced to nothing, since almost every part of him was enhanced, mentally, physically, socially. i don't think its possible for him to go back to being an ordinary human
@breeeegs Hope it is just LIMB clinic shutting down but my first impression was that he was geting rid of his implants, Maybe he decided to stay handicaped and remove all the implants, i it is too creepy and wrong, main reason why i don't like this ending. I hope authors will explain it allsomeday
@breeeegs The whole idea of Adam removing his implants is creepy, he will stay handicaped with no eyes arms (at least one of the arms) maybe with no legs, and so on.
tronger. U can't just the way we were born. Each one of us was born different and with something unique. Making ourselves what we aren't is wrong. By the end of the day nothing will change, there will be chaos, conspiracy. Saving live, making people walk again is good but making a weapon to accomplish what a madman wants is wrong.
Self distract: new man will rise, have the same power. As ppl said, it's like taking the easy way out.
All the ending make sense and pretty genius if u think about i
Darrows ending: maybe the technology is dangerous but we can't take it from us. By this ending people will fear augmentations. We need technology to rise, we can't just take it.
Taggards ending: letting people with power use tech with secret and accomplish what they think is best for themselves and control us? Leading us to the "right" path, I find it bullshit.
Sarifs ending: I believe that its not right to change our selves, make ourselves more then we r. Make people run faster, think better,
I preffered Sarif's ending and i truely hope that advanced prosthetic augmentations like the one in this game, exist in my lifetime. I love fictional universes like this one and Ghost in the Shell.
I would give anything for a chance to live in one of them, mabye in a couple of decades, i'll get to back to you on whether or not i enjoy living in them ;)
I chose this one, because in the real world I would also always rather inform the world about illuminati, bilderberg, free masons and so on then let it suffer.
Darrow just wants to destroy augmentations because they are his creation and because his DNA doesn't allow him to be augmented. To be like everyone else...He doesn't want to be left behind. He always thought of himself above others and seeing his creations giving others what he cannot have and living him as he is, a cripple, is the real reason why he wants this. People need augmentations to stay alive and he wants to deprive those people of the chance to walk or even hold their loved ones again.
@bojo0noja With augmentations you lose your humanity AND you become a puppet for the illuminati. Darrow realised that and tried to destroy the monster he created. I fully supported him.
By "Stealing the fire from the gods", Prometheus got fucked. And I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened to Sarif and/or Megan.
@Gabe2590 If you're already on the verge of becoming a sociopath you will lose your humanity. And anyway *SPOILERS* Bob Page and Megan Reed's research created safe nano augmentations that were even a necessity for the upcoming future. You don't lose your humanity by having a mechanical limb in fact you realise how human you are. And Darrow is the last person to show humanity the right way. Another child having a tantrum who doesn't want to fall behind.
@bojo0noja Right, and Bob Page wasn't responsible for The Grey Death and Ambrosia to profiteer from that at all...all roads point to an Illuminati outcome, Taggart is in their pockets, Sarif just aids their goals more rapidly.
At least with this choice, the people know the TRUTH. Isn't that what any logical person would want? Any person who has played Deus Ex knows that people with power ultimately abuse it. Whether Darrow lives or dies, ordinary people deserve to know about the Illuminati.
@smpowis Normal people cdan't handle the truth. That's why the goverment has hidden so many things from the general public. People are sheep if you don't push them in the right direction they will just wonder off aimlessly.
@bojo0noja I think that there's a vast difference between not being able to accept something and being controlled by a group for personal gain to create the world in their own image. Play the original and I guarantee your opinion will change.
@Gabe2590 Most augmentation manufacturers didn't seem to put restrictive, controlling chips in people. Not even Tai Yong Medical at least until Darrow told them to.
@Gabe2590 Prometheus stole the fire to give to man so they could gain independence from the gods, who were spiteful asses who were torturing mankind, Prometheus' children. It was an act of love for humans. The fact that I can get clean water from the tap without having to dance about and beg the gods for it means he won, metaphorically :P
@Waywardpaladin Hahaha, yes he did. But I mean... We can see Sarif(or Megan) as Prometheus. S/He found a way to make life "easier" for us humans. But as you already might now, just like Prometheus, S/He in the future, might have to pay for that. I kind of had that idea in my mind during the final stages of the game, so I chose this ending.
I thought, "Well, I wouldn't like to see a one of my best buddies (In the case Sarif) or the love of his life (Megan) suffer,".
I would be like mad or impotent xD and talking about the illuminati's ending yeah blah blah there has to be a control i just find that bullshit because i dont want a group of elitist controlling us, they are going to fall in temptation one way or another sooner or later... but like "Avantime" said what im afraid of hugh darrow's is that u can expect ppl to have an irrational fear to augs or technology and that sucks thats why i wanted sarif or hugh not sure tho... i chose darrow's first.
Darrow's ending causes the world to strike out against human augmentation of any kind. This would not make sense in the end because nano augmentation would probably be prohibited. Perhaps none of the endings amount to anything and as Page says, the Illuminati salvage what's left of the wreckage and pave things back to normal. But if they do have effect, Sarif's ending would lead to breakthrough's in science and we would end up with nano augmentation and Versalife would flourish.
@liquidpersuasion IMO Darrow's ending is the best, but technological progress should not be hamstrung by irrational fear, which I think is what Darrow's trying to provoke.
This ending reminded me about the MMR Vaccine controversy where parents refused to give their children the Measles vaccine because of irrational (and now disproved) fears of Autism risks. During that time Measles and Mumps returned with a vengeance.
@liquidpersuasion I find hugh darrow's ending the best, sarif i like it because i often think about we going to the top with technology acting like gods but if you see the world as a whole we should not exist, we are a cancer. I dont want sarif's ending (because even if it is the canon) Is like the guy said "ambitious" Hugh darrow's is like a combination of every ending, self destruct ending is pretty cool for a movie not for my choice, if a movie had that ending i would be like :O wow shit...
@olaokolaok i thought sarif was over the top with his augmentation agenda. i also didn't like how i was his bitch-boy for most of the game, and how he went behind jensen's back with the background check so i killed him after i talked to him on panchea lol. i also wanted to kill megan after i found out she was in on the attack/kidnapping/patient X stuff.
@liquidpersuasion hahahaha yeah i mean, now im pretty much without a choice because i like hugh darrow's one but if i start to think about Sarif, i was working to him and i "loved" megan, if i think by myself and not the story of the game i would like the hugh darrow's one but if i should follow the game and the canon i would have to go for the sarif ending lol, ill just stick to hugh darrow's because is what i want, the whole game i went for the choices i wanted no matter what maybe..
Self Destruct was the only true act of free will Eliza could think of to prevent Darrow's anti-augmentation ending from happening as she too will "die". Picus will be shut down and with it "her"
I've watched this and the other 3 endings at least 7 or so times (probably more by now). Just really interesting and oddly motivating and thought provoking. While I enjoyed the game itself I want to say the ending videos were by far the most interesting part of the game for me. The game was great, but, these ending videos really sold it for me.
Hopefully I don't get flamed for this, but Bioware take note, this is how you end a game.
deathrow989 1 week ago 8
The most philosophical game ever ? The original game is more in this way than Human Revolution, and the MGS series can easily get quite philosophical too, to quote only one example.
DeshtarXallum 2 weeks ago
@DeshtarXallum You can't directly compare the two games, both sport excellent philosophical quandaries in their own way. The original game has much in the themes of Governments, Human Society and "Men Behind Kings." Human Revolution offers more in the way of Ethics, Morality and Humanism.
But MGS? Please, that game sports pseudo-intellectual babble bordering on the self-ridicule by the boatload. Not in the same league as DX games.
Gonaho in reply to DeshtarXallum (Show the comment) 2 weeks ago
@Gonaho To be honest, I've only seen one Let's Play of MGS1 and only the cutscenes for the rest. I'll admit that MGS2 is outlandish, and the 4 sports some ridiculous things, as a whole, I'll let everyone to his/her own opinion.
Concerning the two games, I still remember the original having more dialogues going this way. I'm not sure, in the end, that DE is the "most philosophical game ever".
DeshtarXallum in reply to Gonaho (Show the comment) 2 weeks ago
Who else sees a similar perversion in ACTA. A way to give control over our lives into the hands of major corporations. All in effort to get more power into specific points of interest represented by a chosen few.
All this while sacrificing all the freedoms we, as human beings, have been embracing since modern times.
With ACTA we would be put back into the situation we were in during the middle ages. Peasants(the people) and nobility and aristocracy(corporations)
rohesilmnelohe 1 month ago
@rohesilmnelohe
I think your simply forgetting the system we live under which is capitalism. Your now just finding out how the world really works.
zonilo1 in reply to rohesilmnelohe (Show the comment) 2 weeks ago
@rohesilmnelohe But what if I'm like Sarriff?
StuffedAnimalPlanet in reply to rohesilmnelohe (Show the comment) 5 days ago
Fuck Darrow. He went to damn far. Go Taggart.
danuisortiz 1 month ago
@danuisortiz Hugh Darrow was an extremist. He did all he could to get the job done.
I agree with you in some way.. But Targgart is a bit.. Corrupt, or so he seems to me.
debberdep in reply to danuisortiz (Show the comment) 1 month ago
Ok, Seriously..Who even CHOSE Sarif's ending?
adam100115 1 month ago
@adam100115 I did, and let me explain why. Technological progress is the absolute only hope humanity has to eliminate the problems facing us. We can't just will the problems away, we can't rely on the good will of a few individuals to do it, we need to come together and develop new means of interacting with the world, and the universe, around us. Sure, I wouldn't like to see all the power in corporate hands, but at least there it can one day be claimed by the people.
MisanthropicMarxist in reply to adam100115 (Show the comment) 1 month ago
I love this. This man, this game, everything. SO. FUCKING. MUCH.
UchihaHimitsu 2 months ago
@DragonKnightDrazil yeah the only problem with power is that it corrupts people you might say that right now but if you ever have this power you will not willingly let go of it. that's how it is mate. I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying human's greed for power is too big
Rurisk1984 in reply to DragonKnightDrazil (Show the comment) 2 months ago 3
Choosing between the 4 endings is by far the hardest decision I had to make in my life.
EnQueAr 3 months ago 5
@EnQueAr Same here man, same here.
UchihaHimitsu in reply to EnQueAr (Show the comment) 2 months ago
The self-destruction ending is canon, but I like this one a little more.
StarAdder92 3 months ago
In this ending,Adam kills himself,right ?
Akselm1 3 months ago
@Akselm1 I would believe so.
InevitableEnigma in reply to Akselm1 (Show the comment) 3 months ago
Science has made us gods even before we are worthy of being men. ~Jean Rostand
asaqe3 3 months ago 6
@asaqe3 Man, in first Deus Ex there were references to some sayings of particular person on each endings. This should have been shown at this ending :D
PlanetDead in reply to asaqe3 (Show the comment) 3 months ago
This was the option that I choosed on my first gamethrough, and I don't regret it.
The human enhacement tecnology would bring us more problems that benefits if it's freely distributed to the people or if it's used as a potential control tool for the main powers. Science must always look for the progress of humanity, but without changing who we are as species.
This is without doubt one of the best games of these years.
Sextus70 3 months ago 3
You know, I also think that this ending is the best because it has Adam transform from his experiences. I know IGN posted an editorial about Deus Ex: Human Revolution's story not truly being a story because no one transformed, but I think in this ending Adam really does change due to what he sees on his "adventures". I know I did. When I started this game I didn't think there were any good reasons to worry about human enchancement tech. When I finished, I certainly did.
Puglous 4 months ago
Best ending. Made me cry a bit inside... Deus Ex Human Revolution Has The best ending(s) in any game i played...
UnrealPhantoka999 4 months ago
I LOVED the story of this game by the time it got to the end. So powerful and genuinely thought provoking...but I didn't like how they make Adam sound like a luddite in this ending. I chose this ending not because I was against human enhancement, but because it was the TRUTH. Humanity would be able to manage the risks of human augmentation best if they knew the truth. I seriously doubt it would cause people to abandon it altoghether.
Puglous 4 months ago
Yea i got kinda choked up watching this... try playing cod and saying that. :P easily the best multiplatform game of the year
phenix370 4 months ago 3
Tears rolled down my cheeks upon seeing this for the first time.
hallerd 4 months ago 2
for me , this is the true ending...
heartLss92 4 months ago 2
Did the flickering augment at the end signify that augments didn't quite die with this ending?
TheWoodenChainsaw 4 months ago
@TheWoodenChainsaw That's a very interesting interpretation of that detail.
I think that it has sense, because in the firsts Deus Ex games (which continue the story of this one) the human enhacement technology has been continued and improved on behalf of the interests of many world powers, meaning that Darrow's attempt to stop what he began was purely in vain.
Sextus70 in reply to TheWoodenChainsaw (Show the comment) 3 months ago
This game, Metal Gear Solid (all of them), and Assassin's Creed (all of them) make for the best mind blowing fiction/non-fiction gaming stories ever. Better than most movies and anything on TV now-a-days. These games hold the answers to the future and to the past. Its such a beautiful how much they can make you think about everything, about life, about the Earth, Universe, religion, and all different types of philosophical subjects..I give this game a 10/10..Easily. Glad I got to experience this
ac1dchr15t 4 months ago 3
Even though this game got 9's and 10's..There is a reason this game is still so underrated...the game blatantly used the "i" word enough times to tell you the answer why.
ac1dchr15t 4 months ago
Thumbs up if you chose this ending!
amitbenavi 4 months ago 39
@amitbenavi but what choice is the "right" choice? or is this the way life is :(
alvisc2002 in reply to amitbenavi (Show the comment) 2 months ago
I do think Darrow's ending was the canon one, or at least it's the best option out of all of them.
FortitudeOfHeaven 4 months ago
the truth ending....
leitesman666 4 months ago
Its pretty amazing how a game that involves throwing refrigerators and punching hookers turned out to be the most philosophical video game ever made
breeeegs 4 months ago 54
@breeeegs You don't play many games.
TheP3NDU1UM in reply to breeeegs (Show the comment) 2 months ago
What are you talking about? At least half of my life has been spent in front of the television, mindlessly pounding buttons on an xbox controller while my eyes glaze over and a thin spittle of drool slowly makes its way down my shirtfront! I've only been away from the xbox for five minutes and I'm already having heart palpitations!
breeeegs in reply to TheP3NDU1UM (Show the comment) 2 months ago
@breeeegs >most philosophical game ever made
Lets not get ahead of ourselves now.
EimhinMacGabhan in reply to breeeegs (Show the comment) 2 months ago
So what is the most philosophical game then?
breeeegs in reply to EimhinMacGabhan (Show the comment) 2 months ago
@breeeegs While I don't claim to know what the absolute pinnacle of philosophy in gaming is the following are all as good as, and many better than, DE:HR when it comes to philosphy: the first Deus Ex, the System Shock games, Bioshock, Metal Gear Solid 2, the Legacy of Kain series and Morrowind. I haven't played Planescape: Torment, but that's meant to be up there. Some people will say Ico or SotC, I personally disagree on those two.
EimhinMacGabhan in reply to breeeegs (Show the comment) 2 months ago
@EimhinMacGabhan Absolutely correct choice, just try Planescape: Torment it is one of the top, also try Anachronox, FallOut 2 & 3, and Metro 2033. Metro 2033 is new game based on young russian author's book by the same name.
kestenj in reply to EimhinMacGabhan (Show the comment) 2 months ago
@kestenj I've heard good things about all those games, apart from Anachronox, which I hadn't heard of at all before, but I'll be sure to check it out. Thanks.
EimhinMacGabhan in reply to kestenj (Show the comment) 2 months ago
@EimhinMacGabhan Warning thou: beware of Fallout 3: New Vegas, it is expansion to the core game and it sucks utterly. It is good fps to kill free time but ain't a quality game. I refered to the Core only, that is great success. Also to add one more game to list, Jade Empire, not as much philosophical but great and exciting story-line.
kestenj in reply to EimhinMacGabhan (Show the comment) 2 months ago
@kestenj
Hey Dogmas McGee, I didn't know you were the arbiter of good games. New Vegas is basically Fallout 3 with more weapons, far more quests, a more engaging story, a richer and more believable world, and more choices (for example, being able to play the game for one faction or another). What could be bad about that?
Puglous in reply to kestenj (Show the comment) 1 month ago
@Puglous Nothing really bad about choosing different faction and that kind of variety of gameplay is good. But what you said about more weapons, there lies the problem, at least i think of it that way. It's not really the apocalypse if you have tons of weapons and Ammo! and everything is shinning... I finished game with about 2k ammo for each weapon i had. Didn't like it.
kestenj in reply to Puglous (Show the comment) 1 month ago
@breeeegs
Actually, all the Deus Ex games are pretty philosphical, and this one probably slightly less so than the previous two.
Puglous in reply to breeeegs (Show the comment) 1 month ago
This is the only Deus Ex game I've played, but the original game is supposed to be one one of the greatest games of all time
breeeegs in reply to Puglous (Show the comment) 1 month ago
@breeeegs
It is...though the gameplay is a bit less...fluent than Deus Ex: HR's. A bit.
Puglous in reply to breeeegs (Show the comment) 1 month ago
@breeeegs : I played the second Deus Ex first (and was grateful, it introduced me to the kickass band "kidneythieves"), and that one was phenomenal. Last year I finally played the first Deus Ex; it was really good, and I imagine it must have been mindblowing back when it was released. But each sequel has definitely improved on the last, imho.
HauntingEchoesOfLost in reply to breeeegs (Show the comment) 1 month ago
yeah if you chose this ending... you might as well turn off your internet. your computer. your cell phone. everything science has given to you. otherwise you're pretty much a huge hypocrite.
schafbo 4 months ago
@schafbo It doesnt work that way, you daft fuck
nefets99 in reply to schafbo (Show the comment) 4 months ago
@nefets99 no? how does it work then, boss?
schafbo in reply to nefets99 (Show the comment) 4 months ago
@schafbo You only need to turn off your futuristic augmented arm with the ability to transform into a minigun, and stop kidnapping people and turning them into robotic super-soldiers.....Oh wait...
skytop082 in reply to schafbo (Show the comment) 3 months ago
the idea of adam turning off his limbs in this ending is awesome
Chriseycarlyeah324 5 months ago
@Chriseycarlyeah324 so that means he has no hands and legs anymore?
cant be cannon if they do a sequel
GreekGod88 in reply to Chriseycarlyeah324 (Show the comment) 4 months ago
@GreekGod88 no eyes no hearing ect
(theres a ending where adam blows the base and kills every one and himself)
Chriseycarlyeah324 in reply to GreekGod88 (Show the comment) 4 months ago
Every video has some good points, the three of them should be welded together to form a better decision. I picked that one for regulations, people shouldn't cut off limbs and remove other stuff and replace it with metal parts.
drumstickNL 5 months ago
I feel like shit now
kev99nova 5 months ago
1 dude is from sarif industries
Luciferke 5 months ago
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Im the second one
FreezePol in reply to Luciferke (Show the comment) 5 months ago
im sorry, but i do not agree. Darrow was 100% human and he proved to be the most vicious of them all. It's not augmentations that threaten humanity, it's just other people. Power-hungry people like Taggard, like Sarif, like Darrow, like Zhao, like Page. It does not take augmentations to corrupt a man and drive him to forfeit his humanity. After playing this game, I understood this.
saygoodnightmanuel 5 months ago 3
@saygoodnightmanuel Sarif didn't do anything wrong. Zhao and Page are apart of a evil society called the Illuminati.
KCChiefsAdams in reply to saygoodnightmanuel (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@KCChiefsAdams Sarif went too far with adams operation, without his consent, because he is obsessed with progress by all means. He is willing to do anything to see that progress happen. The fact that he is a likable guy doesnt mean he is suddenly without any accountability.
saygoodnightmanuel in reply to KCChiefsAdams (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@saygoodnightmanuel
Perhaps. That still don't make Sarif "power-hungry", though. Sarif is more like the exact opposite of the Illuminati. He's an idealist and his actions are aimed at making his ideal about bettering mankind come true, not at granting him personal power.
Magni56 in reply to saygoodnightmanuel (Show the comment) 4 months ago
@Magni56 it is still power he seeks, for himself and others. and he has questionable ethics. he is not in the same league as the illuminati, his motives differ, thats true.
saygoodnightmanuel in reply to Magni56 (Show the comment) 4 months ago
@saygoodnightmanuel
Nah, if Sarif were after personal power, his actions plain wouldn't make sense. Yeah, his ethical conduct is questionable, but in the end he's an idealist, an utopian who sees augs as a way to solve mankinds problems. It was never about about personal gain for him, except in as much as that gain would help him further his ideals. Which is what imo sets him apart from the Illuminati, who are after getting pwoer to themselves first.
Magni56 in reply to saygoodnightmanuel (Show the comment) 4 months ago
Whats that thing at the end that flickers off?
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@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
Also, it has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
ChompChain 5 months ago
"Technology gives us strength. Strength enables dominance, and dominance paves the way for abuse."
This 'reasoning' is so over-reductive that it's laughable. This would mean that all governments are bad too, because by its very definition a government must dominate or else it has no authority. Why don't we just abolish nation states along with all science and technology? Yeah, that'll create a better world.
The other three endings are better, but cannot save this game from how dumb it is.
Sarcasmses 5 months ago
@Sarcasmses Uhh, yes, that is what it is saying. This is the anarchist, Luddite ending. If you know what those things are...
lingocode in reply to Sarcasmses (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@lingocode Darrow was not an anarchist, and this ending does not represent anarchism or politics in any way. These endings are about morality. It isn't a luddite ending either. Darrow is a selfish knob that wants to eliminate augs for everyone just because they didn't work for him. If you did the conversation with him correctly, you will see that. The game then makes this quantum leap and tries to dress up his selfishness as some sort of benevolent anti-scientific virtue for his ending.
Sarcasmses in reply to lingocode (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
@lingocode, it isn't has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
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@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
And @lingocode, it isn't has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
ChompChain in reply to Sarcasmses (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
And @lingocode, it isn't has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
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@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
Also, it has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
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@Sarcasmses Anarchists do believe that will create a better world, but who knows? Certainly not you and I. Although the message is simplified it is still reasonable and relevant to modern day.
Also, it has no "luddite" connotations at all; Jensen only portrays it as such in his speech. Personally, I thought about it more as valuing the freedom of choice and letting humanity as a whole decide where to take this technology and what to make of this incident
ChompChain in reply to Sarcasmses (Show the comment) 5 months ago
Best game of the year no doubt, best game of all time-for me yes for others may not be because it's not GTA or Crysis...This game actually has a message,it's not typical game made just to make money.Hope this has a sequel...
Srky6P 5 months ago
@Srky6P I thought this is a sequel to the game released in 2000
argonoch in reply to Srky6P (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@argonoch It's a prequel.
Dimensionaluk in reply to argonoch (Show the comment) 5 months ago
I self-destructed, decisions should be chosen by everyone, not myself.
knduong 5 months ago
Wow!
Tyannalyn 6 months ago
Thumps up if came here before choosing the ending in the game because you really cared about the future of mankind even if it's a game.
PorscheLover87 6 months ago 29
@PorscheLover87 This was, in my opinion, the only option. Sarif would have created monsters, Taggart would have borne slaves and killing everyone, including yourself, didn't solve a damn thing - it just delayed the inevitable need to find a way to work things out.
AndyRaslan in reply to PorscheLover87 (Show the comment) 4 months ago
@PorscheLover87 Well i just quicksaved and pressed all the buttons
kamilfreeman in reply to PorscheLover87 (Show the comment) 3 months ago
Technology won't always be the downfall for humans. It just depends, on whose hands it lands on. Just like a gun, used for protection, or murder.
bankaikun94 6 months ago
@bankaikun94 I agree, but a majority of technology will be the downfall of humanity more than anything. We use and makes things that hurt more than than they help.
LucasimoTheGreat in reply to bankaikun94 (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@LucasimoTheGreat It can mostly be blamed upon the corrupted greedy elites. War, lies, genocide, all for profit.
The past 100s of years, we've been innovating on how to kill one another. Indeed this type of technology has risen such impressive standards. But imagine if we diverted to the other direction, and been thinking for the good of mankind for those 100s of years.
Only if.......
bankaikun94 in reply to LucasimoTheGreat (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@bankaikun94 True, but look at other forms of technology besides weapons. The discovery of oil and gas to fuel a vehicles and other devices, both capable of causing damage to the earth and all of its inhabitants, human and nonhuman. Weapons I don't consider technology, they're tools made to kill and that is their sole purpose. However many more things have been created which are more harmful to us human and to our bodies. Corrupt leaders only do things we the people allow them to do.
LucasimoTheGreat in reply to bankaikun94 (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@bankaikun94 Are you serious? So we've made no medical advancements? We haven't cured any diseases? Haven't developed new things such as prostheses for amputees? There are many MANY things we've done other than make new ways to kill each other. Sure that's happened too but then sometimes you need force. And to blame the 'elites' is bullshit. Their power is given to them by the masses and they could take it back if they worked at it.
betrthansum in reply to bankaikun94 (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@betrthansum "And to blame the 'elites' is bullshit. Their power is given to them by the masses and they could take it back if they worked at it"
The public indeed elects its leaders, but who picks the candidates? Who finances their campaigns, who gives them airtime? You can't speak of a democracy when there are only two parties to choose from who are basically the same. About taking away the power of a president, I guess you never heard of this guy called Bush.. 22% approval rating in the end.
censortube09 in reply to betrthansum (Show the comment) 6 months ago
"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within" - Will Durant
texas224 6 months ago 2
wonderful music , deep philosophical story , rich gameplay and environment.........what else do u need to name Deus Ex Human Revolution as GOTY 2011
TheGamerSkill 6 months ago 63
@TheGamerSkill
You need Skyrim
dmitrykryukov in reply to TheGamerSkill (Show the comment) 5 months ago
You always win, if you telling the truth.
doc2455 6 months ago 2
@doc2455 no you dont, it excuse for those who are to weak to lie
tehzoh in reply to doc2455 (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@tehzoh truth is power, lie is weakness.... remember this, if you want save youself
doc2455 in reply to tehzoh (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@doc2455 save myself from what ? lying is a virtue
tehzoh in reply to doc2455 (Show the comment) 5 months ago
Hands down all 4 endings are not only very well written and realistic but they are also all satisfying which is very surprising for multiple ending game.
I choose this ending one because i always remember the line: "Technology will be man's downfall"
Blooddrunk1004 6 months ago
I choose this ending eventough I killed darrow because it was not his decision to make
lolwutnop 6 months ago
@lolwutnop I killed everyone, chose self destruct. Nobody has right to make decision for other!! I loved this game soo MUCH!
Harshalcv11 in reply to lolwutnop (Show the comment) 6 months ago
I believe that people in this game got all figured it out already, i mean, there's alex jones-like guy on every radio! I think they are aware of illuminati, even if the mainstream doesn't tell them that.
mininow 6 months ago
I chose this ending, yet I was torn between it and Taggart's. However, the flaw I saw in Taggarts was that the rules and regulations would all be under the Illuminati's eyes and pull. Humanity would never truly abandon science and technology. I saw this as a wakeup call ending. One that would allow humanity to be more cautious with the technology and science they create.
HkSniper 6 months ago
i wonder what adam did after that ....reed left him i wonder what will happen next he cant just fade away without a reason i wish the same people would do a dx4...
adam needed more story it was supposed to see adams story also :S
i only know his ex he used to be in swat and he got kicked because he left
then i know he join sarif (end) adam is much more emotional then denton was
peace
POUTANA2 6 months ago
in my opinion this isnt just a game...this showed me how life really is..and could be.this actualy showed me how could industries and and the rulers of the world can control us.
danutmh 6 months ago
@mkvetak you are correct this exactly the route were taking just look right now you have genetic engineered cells,organs and cybernetic implants cpus to control the brain to stop parkinsons disease neuro enchancment chips that can allow you to control prostetic legs,arms etc.And even now cpu chips that allow humans to control machines via mind control its only a matter of time before someone just like this game decides to play god and wish to have control over everyone.
TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA in reply to mkvetak (Show the comment) 6 months ago
This reminds me of facebook.....
yogeham 6 months ago
State of the Bionic Art: The Best Replacements for My Flimsy Human Parts search tht in op sci all this shit is real bro
youngperfectionz 6 months ago
then go to pop sci chose science and health and you will see things you never knew existed synthetic lungs and skin nano circuits its crazy how real this game is and will be
youngperfectionz 6 months ago
search up real iron man suit
youngperfectionz 6 months ago
@youngperfectionz and Man Controls Robotic Hand with Mind
youngperfectionz in reply to youngperfectionz (Show the comment) 6 months ago
in ten years with the advancements in biotechnology we will see augments all the way down to our DNA
youngperfectionz 6 months ago
What about that arm in the end? Adam has all his implants removed? and blinkering thing in the end? is that his eye removal?
alienbishop 6 months ago
@alienbishop wouldn't he die? i thought it was a robocop mission, they 'auged' him up to save his life... or did they just screw him over and decided to just take advantage
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@dinodino6 @dinodino6 Maybe he decided to stay handicaped and remove all implants, i it is too creepy and wrong, thats why i don't like this ending
alienbishop in reply to dinodino6 (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@alienbishop
I thought that thing at the end was just a LIMB clinic shutting down with an abandoned aug project left on the operating table, showing that people had turned their backs on the idea of augmentation. I wasn't aware that it is/might be Adam's arm or any of his other implants.
Erdross in reply to alienbishop (Show the comment) 6 months ago
if he had all his implants removed he would probably be reduced to nothing, since almost every part of him was enhanced, mentally, physically, socially. i don't think its possible for him to go back to being an ordinary human
breeeegs in reply to alienbishop (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@breeeegs Hope it is just LIMB clinic shutting down but my first impression was that he was geting rid of his implants, Maybe he decided to stay handicaped and remove all the implants, i it is too creepy and wrong, main reason why i don't like this ending. I hope authors will explain it allsomeday
alienbishop in reply to breeeegs (Show the comment) 5 months ago
its creepy for him to remove his implants?
breeeegs in reply to alienbishop (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@breeeegs The whole idea of Adam removing his implants is creepy, he will stay handicaped with no eyes arms (at least one of the arms) maybe with no legs, and so on.
alienbishop in reply to breeeegs (Show the comment) 5 months ago
@alienbishop I guess by Adam removing the non life supporting implants he becomes somewhat like Hugh Darrow himself.
TheInvisibleWatchers in reply to alienbishop (Show the comment) 5 months ago
I wonder how advanced the mechanical augmentation research will be in 2027... Born in 1991 makes my age equal to Pritchard's.
Eye camera sounds tempting... But HUD contact lenses would be great too :D
Max0Inq 6 months ago
If I was Adam I would probably shoot myself in the head.
pepsik1234 6 months ago
tronger. U can't just the way we were born. Each one of us was born different and with something unique. Making ourselves what we aren't is wrong. By the end of the day nothing will change, there will be chaos, conspiracy. Saving live, making people walk again is good but making a weapon to accomplish what a madman wants is wrong.
Self distract: new man will rise, have the same power. As ppl said, it's like taking the easy way out.
All the ending make sense and pretty genius if u think about i
pepsik1234 6 months ago
Darrows ending: maybe the technology is dangerous but we can't take it from us. By this ending people will fear augmentations. We need technology to rise, we can't just take it.
Taggards ending: letting people with power use tech with secret and accomplish what they think is best for themselves and control us? Leading us to the "right" path, I find it bullshit.
Sarifs ending: I believe that its not right to change our selves, make ourselves more then we r. Make people run faster, think better,
pepsik1234 6 months ago 3
I preffered Sarif's ending and i truely hope that advanced prosthetic augmentations like the one in this game, exist in my lifetime. I love fictional universes like this one and Ghost in the Shell.
AdorableUKe 6 months ago
@AdorableUKe
i bet you love watching them,but not LIVING in them....
DevilOnHog in reply to AdorableUKe (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@DevilOnHog
I would give anything for a chance to live in one of them, mabye in a couple of decades, i'll get to back to you on whether or not i enjoy living in them ;)
AdorableUKe in reply to DevilOnHog (Show the comment) 6 months ago
best of the 3 endings :)
HOLZFALLER 6 months ago
fuck i drowned the whole station... this ending is way better!
deo000000 6 months ago
I chose this one, because in the real world I would also always rather inform the world about illuminati, bilderberg, free masons and so on then let it suffer.
You say I am crazy for believing it?
I say it is sad that you don't.
TRUCKERmassaker 6 months ago
I chose this one, and I stand by it.
ExplodingFistInVag 6 months ago 31
@ExplodingFistInVag You and me both, man. You and me both.
HarpoTheVillain in reply to ExplodingFistInVag (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@ExplodingFistInVag
But there are like 3 Deus Ex games after this one, and in every people have augmentations.
MultiBOZA in reply to ExplodingFistInVag (Show the comment) 5 months ago
Darrow just wants to destroy augmentations because they are his creation and because his DNA doesn't allow him to be augmented. To be like everyone else...He doesn't want to be left behind. He always thought of himself above others and seeing his creations giving others what he cannot have and living him as he is, a cripple, is the real reason why he wants this. People need augmentations to stay alive and he wants to deprive those people of the chance to walk or even hold their loved ones again.
bojo0noja 6 months ago
@bojo0noja With augmentations you lose your humanity AND you become a puppet for the illuminati. Darrow realised that and tried to destroy the monster he created. I fully supported him.
By "Stealing the fire from the gods", Prometheus got fucked. And I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened to Sarif and/or Megan.
Gabe2590 in reply to bojo0noja (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@Gabe2590 If you're already on the verge of becoming a sociopath you will lose your humanity. And anyway *SPOILERS* Bob Page and Megan Reed's research created safe nano augmentations that were even a necessity for the upcoming future. You don't lose your humanity by having a mechanical limb in fact you realise how human you are. And Darrow is the last person to show humanity the right way. Another child having a tantrum who doesn't want to fall behind.
bojo0noja in reply to Gabe2590 (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@bojo0noja Right, and Bob Page wasn't responsible for The Grey Death and Ambrosia to profiteer from that at all...all roads point to an Illuminati outcome, Taggart is in their pockets, Sarif just aids their goals more rapidly.
At least with this choice, the people know the TRUTH. Isn't that what any logical person would want? Any person who has played Deus Ex knows that people with power ultimately abuse it. Whether Darrow lives or dies, ordinary people deserve to know about the Illuminati.
smpowis in reply to bojo0noja (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@smpowis Normal people cdan't handle the truth. That's why the goverment has hidden so many things from the general public. People are sheep if you don't push them in the right direction they will just wonder off aimlessly.
bojo0noja in reply to smpowis (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@bojo0noja I think that there's a vast difference between not being able to accept something and being controlled by a group for personal gain to create the world in their own image. Play the original and I guarantee your opinion will change.
smpowis in reply to bojo0noja (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@Gabe2590 Or an insane puppet because of Darrow's fit of anguish.
kidslovesatan in reply to Gabe2590 (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@Gabe2590 Most augmentation manufacturers didn't seem to put restrictive, controlling chips in people. Not even Tai Yong Medical at least until Darrow told them to.
peterfaj in reply to Gabe2590 (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@Gabe2590 Prometheus stole the fire to give to man so they could gain independence from the gods, who were spiteful asses who were torturing mankind, Prometheus' children. It was an act of love for humans. The fact that I can get clean water from the tap without having to dance about and beg the gods for it means he won, metaphorically :P
Waywardpaladin in reply to Gabe2590 (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@Waywardpaladin Hahaha, yes he did. But I mean... We can see Sarif(or Megan) as Prometheus. S/He found a way to make life "easier" for us humans. But as you already might now, just like Prometheus, S/He in the future, might have to pay for that. I kind of had that idea in my mind during the final stages of the game, so I chose this ending.
I thought, "Well, I wouldn't like to see a one of my best buddies (In the case Sarif) or the love of his life (Megan) suffer,".
It's just my opinion.. idk
Gabe2590 in reply to Waywardpaladin (Show the comment) 6 months ago
I would be like mad or impotent xD and talking about the illuminati's ending yeah blah blah there has to be a control i just find that bullshit because i dont want a group of elitist controlling us, they are going to fall in temptation one way or another sooner or later... but like "Avantime" said what im afraid of hugh darrow's is that u can expect ppl to have an irrational fear to augs or technology and that sucks thats why i wanted sarif or hugh not sure tho... i chose darrow's first.
olaokolaok 6 months ago
I chose this one because, the truth shall set us free.
Hauteur723 6 months ago
Darrow's ending causes the world to strike out against human augmentation of any kind. This would not make sense in the end because nano augmentation would probably be prohibited. Perhaps none of the endings amount to anything and as Page says, the Illuminati salvage what's left of the wreckage and pave things back to normal. But if they do have effect, Sarif's ending would lead to breakthrough's in science and we would end up with nano augmentation and Versalife would flourish.
Shade0591 6 months ago
This one is canon, correct?
OceanicCamels 6 months ago
Sarif's ending: too ambitious
Darrow's ending: the "ideal" good ending
Taggart's ending: the realistic, balanced ending
Self destruct ending: too good to be true, easy way out ending.
liquidpersuasion 6 months ago 5
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Avantime in reply to liquidpersuasion (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@liquidpersuasion IMO Darrow's ending is the best, but technological progress should not be hamstrung by irrational fear, which I think is what Darrow's trying to provoke.
This ending reminded me about the MMR Vaccine controversy where parents refused to give their children the Measles vaccine because of irrational (and now disproved) fears of Autism risks. During that time Measles and Mumps returned with a vengeance.
Avantime in reply to liquidpersuasion (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@liquidpersuasion I find hugh darrow's ending the best, sarif i like it because i often think about we going to the top with technology acting like gods but if you see the world as a whole we should not exist, we are a cancer. I dont want sarif's ending (because even if it is the canon) Is like the guy said "ambitious" Hugh darrow's is like a combination of every ending, self destruct ending is pretty cool for a movie not for my choice, if a movie had that ending i would be like :O wow shit...
olaokolaok in reply to liquidpersuasion (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@olaokolaok i thought sarif was over the top with his augmentation agenda. i also didn't like how i was his bitch-boy for most of the game, and how he went behind jensen's back with the background check so i killed him after i talked to him on panchea lol. i also wanted to kill megan after i found out she was in on the attack/kidnapping/patient X stuff.
liquidpersuasion in reply to olaokolaok (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@liquidpersuasion hahahaha yeah i mean, now im pretty much without a choice because i like hugh darrow's one but if i start to think about Sarif, i was working to him and i "loved" megan, if i think by myself and not the story of the game i would like the hugh darrow's one but if i should follow the game and the canon i would have to go for the sarif ending lol, ill just stick to hugh darrow's because is what i want, the whole game i went for the choices i wanted no matter what maybe..
olaokolaok in reply to liquidpersuasion (Show the comment) 6 months ago
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olaokolaok in reply to liquidpersuasion (Show the comment) 6 months ago
@liquidpersuasion
Self Destruct was the only true act of free will Eliza could think of to prevent Darrow's anti-augmentation ending from happening as she too will "die". Picus will be shut down and with it "her"
asaqe3 in reply to liquidpersuasion (Show the comment) 3 months ago
I've watched this and the other 3 endings at least 7 or so times (probably more by now). Just really interesting and oddly motivating and thought provoking. While I enjoyed the game itself I want to say the ending videos were by far the most interesting part of the game for me. The game was great, but, these ending videos really sold it for me.
LordTharapita 6 months ago
@LordTharapita Exactly how i feel xD.
olaokolaok in reply to LordTharapita (Show the comment) 6 months ago