@MyBetty111 Don't like his preaching style that's fine. But the truth that he shares is simple Catholic teaching; God's love, our sinfulness and God's desire to forgives us. That's not uniquely Catholic (although we're the guardians of it) or Protestant: that's just the truth. Look up God's Love For You on Catholic Answers. That's the core of our faith. God bless!
Read Michael Davies book about Pope Paul VI--The Mass of Pope Paul VI--informs the reader of the Protestant influences, the corruption of that Pope--Paul VI is known as "the sad one" in Rome. He very nearly destroyed the Catholic Church--he destroyed its Liturgy, he tunred the Mass into a hybrid Protestant-Catholic affair. The TLM is the only true Mass. The Novus Ordo is a happy clappy Baptist affair filled with liturgical abuse.
@MyBetty111 Two options: Stay in the Church, and work for a renewed sense of Liturgy and worship within her, just as our Holy Father is trying to do. Be productive and not a schismatic. The other option is to leave Christ's Church because you think that God has suddenly broken His promise to be with it for all these years. It takes humility and it's not always easy, and I don't like liturgical abuses either. But that's no cause for abandoning the true Faith.
To my fellow Catholics who have a thing against charismatic preachers: if you want to go off in a corner and pray silently and not let the light of the Spirit shine through you in loud and powerful ways, go ahead. But some of us can actually tolerate priests that speak loud enough to wake us up and truly enough to make us think.
But what I was feeling as I watched this video is that this man may be on his way OUT of Catholicism, and those who God influences through him will leave with him.
The concept of sin is a fabrication. The idea that humans need to "redeemed" in any way is a fabrication. He is sincere and passionate, though as a catholic priest he is suspect because of his unnatural celibacy oath, but that does not make his words truer than the pentacostal that says he is going to hell because he is a catholic. Weak, but not too offensive. I still don't need a savior.
@joestfrancois If God exists, and He has created us with a purpose, than that's exactly sin when we go against that design and purpose. Now if you're right, to say things like murder, rape, etc. are wrong would be arbitrary; maybe not socially advantageous, but not wrong. But something in us knows that isn't the case. Look up Peter Kreeft's website, he has some pretty good articles. I'm not your enemy. :) And I'll be praying for you; God bless. :)
"Now if you're right, to say things like murder, rape, etc. are wrong would be arbitrary; maybe not socially advantageous, but not wrong. But something in us knows that isn't the case.."
No, I did not say that at all. Look to any flock/herd/pack of animals, there are things they will and will not do, within certain percentages. Humans are no different. Biology is a much better explanation than superstition. Biology is the best explanation for what you call right or wrong.
@joestfrancois If morality isn't objective, why should I care? Why shouldn't I do whatever I want. Bad for society? Don't care. But humans are different, we can supersede our own instincts, while animals don't. If Christians and theists are wrong, Nietzsche was right and we are just as well off letting might equal right. That is the intellectually honest alternative. I am not advocating superstition at all; this is basic natural law and very basic theism; that's the foundation for morality.
I don't know Nietzche's work, take that objective crap up with someone else.
Look to any flock/herd/pack of animals, there are things they will and will not do, within certain percentages. Humans are no different. Biology is the best explanation for what you call right or wrong.
Emotionally injured people are capable of anything. Superstition injures people. Theism is superstition. You don't do bad stuff because you are a member of the human race.
@joestfrancois I'd recommend looking up Peter Kreeft; I think that if you're looking for an intelligent, thought out theist philosopher, I don't know any modern one whose better. Browse his arguments for God's existence, and simply be open to that possibility.
I looked at Kreeft just a little bit. Nothing new, a theist with a bunch of if-then statements to which I do not agree.
Dude, if you can't explain something to a half drunk plumber in a bar, you can't explain it. Doesn't mean it is not true, just not relevant to most of humanity. You or kreeft have not made a case for sin not being made up or shown in any way that humans need to be redeemed. You started the search with the answers.
He is a Protestant minister. Look at the crappy altar table. Look at the way he waves his arms around--like Pat Robertson on the 700 Club. Pure southern evangelicism. Give me the Traditional Latin Mass and real Catholicism.
@MyBetty111 So let's say that the Vatican were attacked and the only place to say Mass for the Pope was a kitchen table- invalid? And presentation doesn't make him any less Catholic- you might not like him, but you could probably say the same about Archbishop Sheen, the way he spoke and waved his arms. :P The Church might be wounded with sinful priests and sinful laity, but Christ's promise hasn't changed and He won't abandon His Church.
@MyBetty111 I do not deny the Traditional Mass is beautiful and worshipful - one of the better ways to worship the Lord (my other favourite is the Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom) - but the NO mass is made so people can access Christ and God more easily at the price of some of the splendour and superficial holiness. Though the New Order Mass is not as fancy or Heaven-focused as the Tridentine Mass, 'tis no less holy or valid. Christ is still the center of the Mass.
@MyBetty111 If that was Jesus preaching (which, in a sense, it is), you would say the same thing. I truly doubt that Christ would side with the pomp of the Latin rite and expensive Mass.
Also, the Vernacular Mass is the official Mass of of the Roman Catholic Church as proclaimed by His Holiness, Paul VI. If you don't like it, then by definition, you are a Protestant.
This is disgusting to call this man an evangelical minister, this is what the catholic church really teaches, he is bold and stands up for the truth,...if you are offended by it than you are probably a lousy catholic like iam
This is crap. He preaches like a evangelical Protestant minister. Bad potato sack vestments, arm movements like Pat Robertson on the 700 Club. He is NO Catholic priest! He is awful!
@MyBetty111 He is in fact a Catholic priest, and though not a saint, what he is saying is totally inline with Church teaching. Listen, having new vestements and waving your arms does not mean that you are not speaking the truth. What is actually heretical about it? And by the way, it's the Catholic Church, which Christ is infallibly guiding and protecting from error, that called the Second Vatican Council. I'm praying for you and recommend you check out Catholic Answers online.
No, that's not what he's saying at all. Jesus Christ dying on the cross is so that we can have freedom from our sins and life with Him because of His ressurection. That's why we're celebrating tonight; God became a human being so that through the cross He would, "draw all men to himself." (John 12: 32). :) Haha you're not the first one to call us crazy. Acts 26: 24. But it's true; and if you honestly seek God with all your heart, you'll find Him. Psalm 145: 18; Jeremiah 29 11- 14
The church and the beliefs it holds were there from the get go actually. The councils didn't invent doctrines or beliefs. They really just clarified and declared previously believed truth to fight against lies.
Well, Jesus didn't really preach a path or a spiritual way. He said that He was the Way, which really is part of why the Christian faith is so unique. I'd really love to chat more with you about your faith and why I believe what I do. God bless and Shalom to you too!
re: The council, they did invent somethings, the concept of original sin, with augustine was one. Original sin is unheard of in jewish teachings.
Jesus did not preach a PATH or a spiritual WAY?
He said He was the "WAY"... Indeed, that term is a term of journey is it not?
I am IS THE way TO BE.
Which i've been told is the original written words (before they were omitted and translated). hence not to become Christians, but to embrace christ-like qualities.
But not as the offence, so also the gift. For if by the offence of one, many died; much more the grace of God, and the gift, by the grace of one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
But I bet you don't believe this Scripture simply because Paul wrote it. I will be mean now: I guess you prefer Saul better.
It's a sad commentary about our world that tens of millions of people will watch American Idol videos on youtube and I am only the 211th person to view a video so important to getting every soul into Heaven. Please pray daily for our clergy.
Looks and acts and sounds like a Protestant preacher. Typical Novus Ordo crap.
MyBetty111 7 months ago
@MyBetty111 Don't like his preaching style that's fine. But the truth that he shares is simple Catholic teaching; God's love, our sinfulness and God's desire to forgives us. That's not uniquely Catholic (although we're the guardians of it) or Protestant: that's just the truth. Look up God's Love For You on Catholic Answers. That's the core of our faith. God bless!
EhJayJC 7 months ago
Read Michael Davies book about Pope Paul VI--The Mass of Pope Paul VI--informs the reader of the Protestant influences, the corruption of that Pope--Paul VI is known as "the sad one" in Rome. He very nearly destroyed the Catholic Church--he destroyed its Liturgy, he tunred the Mass into a hybrid Protestant-Catholic affair. The TLM is the only true Mass. The Novus Ordo is a happy clappy Baptist affair filled with liturgical abuse.
MyBetty111 7 months ago
@MyBetty111 Two options: Stay in the Church, and work for a renewed sense of Liturgy and worship within her, just as our Holy Father is trying to do. Be productive and not a schismatic. The other option is to leave Christ's Church because you think that God has suddenly broken His promise to be with it for all these years. It takes humility and it's not always easy, and I don't like liturgical abuses either. But that's no cause for abandoning the true Faith.
EhJayJC 7 months ago
This kind of priest sure would have helped at my highschool.
drinaldi2000 7 months ago
To my fellow Catholics who have a thing against charismatic preachers: if you want to go off in a corner and pray silently and not let the light of the Spirit shine through you in loud and powerful ways, go ahead. But some of us can actually tolerate priests that speak loud enough to wake us up and truly enough to make us think.
GenghisKhan44 9 months ago
@bigbadwolff1
Awww... that's mean.
But what I was feeling as I watched this video is that this man may be on his way OUT of Catholicism, and those who God influences through him will leave with him.
aveyowyns 10 months ago
The concept of sin is a fabrication. The idea that humans need to "redeemed" in any way is a fabrication. He is sincere and passionate, though as a catholic priest he is suspect because of his unnatural celibacy oath, but that does not make his words truer than the pentacostal that says he is going to hell because he is a catholic. Weak, but not too offensive. I still don't need a savior.
joestfrancois 10 months ago
@joestfrancois If God exists, and He has created us with a purpose, than that's exactly sin when we go against that design and purpose. Now if you're right, to say things like murder, rape, etc. are wrong would be arbitrary; maybe not socially advantageous, but not wrong. But something in us knows that isn't the case. Look up Peter Kreeft's website, he has some pretty good articles. I'm not your enemy. :) And I'll be praying for you; God bless. :)
EhJayJC 10 months ago
"Now if you're right, to say things like murder, rape, etc. are wrong would be arbitrary; maybe not socially advantageous, but not wrong. But something in us knows that isn't the case.."
No, I did not say that at all. Look to any flock/herd/pack of animals, there are things they will and will not do, within certain percentages. Humans are no different. Biology is a much better explanation than superstition. Biology is the best explanation for what you call right or wrong.
joestfrancois 10 months ago
@joestfrancois If morality isn't objective, why should I care? Why shouldn't I do whatever I want. Bad for society? Don't care. But humans are different, we can supersede our own instincts, while animals don't. If Christians and theists are wrong, Nietzsche was right and we are just as well off letting might equal right. That is the intellectually honest alternative. I am not advocating superstition at all; this is basic natural law and very basic theism; that's the foundation for morality.
EhJayJC 10 months ago
@EhJayJC
I don't know Nietzche's work, take that objective crap up with someone else.
Look to any flock/herd/pack of animals, there are things they will and will not do, within certain percentages. Humans are no different. Biology is the best explanation for what you call right or wrong.
Emotionally injured people are capable of anything. Superstition injures people. Theism is superstition. You don't do bad stuff because you are a member of the human race.
joestfrancois 10 months ago
@joestfrancois I'd recommend looking up Peter Kreeft; I think that if you're looking for an intelligent, thought out theist philosopher, I don't know any modern one whose better. Browse his arguments for God's existence, and simply be open to that possibility.
EhJayJC 10 months ago
@EhJayJC
I looked at Kreeft just a little bit. Nothing new, a theist with a bunch of if-then statements to which I do not agree.
Dude, if you can't explain something to a half drunk plumber in a bar, you can't explain it. Doesn't mean it is not true, just not relevant to most of humanity. You or kreeft have not made a case for sin not being made up or shown in any way that humans need to be redeemed. You started the search with the answers.
joestfrancois 10 months ago
@bigbadwolff1 You're being silly. Could you keep your unpleasantness to yourself please, because I don't wish for it to touch my life at all? Cheers.
BritishSnail 10 months ago
I never thought that I would receive any kind of truth from a Catholic priest.
aveyowyns 10 months ago
Who cares the denomination? What is with this division in Christ's body that causes Him such agonising pain.? Stop it. One body, one Spirit. Amen
BritishSnail 11 months ago
He is not wearing Catholic vestments. He is wearing a Southern Baptist Potato Sack.
MyBetty111 1 year ago
He is a Protestant minister. Look at the crappy altar table. Look at the way he waves his arms around--like Pat Robertson on the 700 Club. Pure southern evangelicism. Give me the Traditional Latin Mass and real Catholicism.
MyBetty111 1 year ago
@MyBetty111 So let's say that the Vatican were attacked and the only place to say Mass for the Pope was a kitchen table- invalid? And presentation doesn't make him any less Catholic- you might not like him, but you could probably say the same about Archbishop Sheen, the way he spoke and waved his arms. :P The Church might be wounded with sinful priests and sinful laity, but Christ's promise hasn't changed and He won't abandon His Church.
EhJayJC 1 year ago
@MyBetty111 I do not deny the Traditional Mass is beautiful and worshipful - one of the better ways to worship the Lord (my other favourite is the Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom) - but the NO mass is made so people can access Christ and God more easily at the price of some of the splendour and superficial holiness. Though the New Order Mass is not as fancy or Heaven-focused as the Tridentine Mass, 'tis no less holy or valid. Christ is still the center of the Mass.
GenghisKhan44 9 months ago
@MyBetty111 If that was Jesus preaching (which, in a sense, it is), you would say the same thing. I truly doubt that Christ would side with the pomp of the Latin rite and expensive Mass.
Also, the Vernacular Mass is the official Mass of of the Roman Catholic Church as proclaimed by His Holiness, Paul VI. If you don't like it, then by definition, you are a Protestant.
drinaldi2000 7 months ago
This is disgusting to call this man an evangelical minister, this is what the catholic church really teaches, he is bold and stands up for the truth,...if you are offended by it than you are probably a lousy catholic like iam
Archangeloftheandes 1 year ago
This is not a real Catholic priest. This is an arm waving evangelical Protestant. This is Novus Ordo crap. crap!
MyBetty111 1 year ago
@MyBetty111 lol then go to the FSSP mass
14alonso88 1 year ago
This is NOT Catholic. This is a Baptist minister in disguise. This man is disgusting. Tell him to take off those Protestant Novus Ordo "vestments."
MyBetty111 1 year ago
This is crap. He preaches like a evangelical Protestant minister. Bad potato sack vestments, arm movements like Pat Robertson on the 700 Club. He is NO Catholic priest! He is awful!
MyBetty111 1 year ago
@MyBetty111 He is in fact a Catholic priest, and though not a saint, what he is saying is totally inline with Church teaching. Listen, having new vestements and waving your arms does not mean that you are not speaking the truth. What is actually heretical about it? And by the way, it's the Catholic Church, which Christ is infallibly guiding and protecting from error, that called the Second Vatican Council. I'm praying for you and recommend you check out Catholic Answers online.
EhJayJC 1 year ago
"No one's getting out of here alive tonight"
ben38154 1 year ago
@ben38154 I'll be quoting that so much hahaha!
dcrippen2000 8 months ago
the purpose of your life is to be crucified. you christians are freaking nuts, i'm sorry but you are wake up
Ldb29corn 2 years ago
No, that's not what he's saying at all. Jesus Christ dying on the cross is so that we can have freedom from our sins and life with Him because of His ressurection. That's why we're celebrating tonight; God became a human being so that through the cross He would, "draw all men to himself." (John 12: 32). :) Haha you're not the first one to call us crazy. Acts 26: 24. But it's true; and if you honestly seek God with all your heart, you'll find Him. Psalm 145: 18; Jeremiah 29 11- 14
EhJayJC 2 years ago
@Ldb29corn and you need to go in peace
xplay101 11 months ago
this religion is such crap. can't you see it? its staring you in the face!
Ldb29corn 2 years ago
Don't walk alone. Never walk alone. Put your hand in the Hand of the Man Who walked the water. Thanks for this Father. - Blessings - Rene
mammyoriordan 2 years ago
and follow the path of Constantine and the council of nicea... in 325.
Although not of the religious path of Yeshua bar Yosef (or his idol name jesus christ) I think he was a great spiritual teacher.
I belong to an Abrahamic religion, not this one.
Deuteronomy 30:14
But the word is very near to you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may do it.
Shalom
JohanR888 2 years ago
The church and the beliefs it holds were there from the get go actually. The councils didn't invent doctrines or beliefs. They really just clarified and declared previously believed truth to fight against lies.
Well, Jesus didn't really preach a path or a spiritual way. He said that He was the Way, which really is part of why the Christian faith is so unique. I'd really love to chat more with you about your faith and why I believe what I do. God bless and Shalom to you too!
Adam
EhJayJC 2 years ago
re: The council, they did invent somethings, the concept of original sin, with augustine was one. Original sin is unheard of in jewish teachings.
Jesus did not preach a PATH or a spiritual WAY?
He said He was the "WAY"... Indeed, that term is a term of journey is it not?
I am IS THE way TO BE.
Which i've been told is the original written words (before they were omitted and translated). hence not to become Christians, but to embrace christ-like qualities.
Shalom - to you kind man.
JohanR888 2 years ago
edit: They council did invent things, THEN LATER the concept of Original Sin was coined by Augustine.
JohanR888 2 years ago
Romans 5:15
But not as the offence, so also the gift. For if by the offence of one, many died; much more the grace of God, and the gift, by the grace of one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
But I bet you don't believe this Scripture simply because Paul wrote it. I will be mean now: I guess you prefer Saul better.
paxcoder 2 years ago
It's a sad commentary about our world that tens of millions of people will watch American Idol videos on youtube and I am only the 211th person to view a video so important to getting every soul into Heaven. Please pray daily for our clergy.
joeypupandzip 2 years ago