There's the little old man theory, too. A little old man was frequently seen riding the 911 elevators. He is believed to have planted bombs. I read this is some magazine. It seems plausible.
"The red/gray chips found in the WTC dust at four sites in NYC are consistent with a carbon steel coated with an epoxy resin that contains primarily iron oxide & kaolin clay pigments."
"There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips, therefore the red/gray chips is not thermite or nanothermite."
@Glinkaism1 well your useless. Thats your reply. I guess I shouldn't expected much from a truther. Let me guess your unemployed right. Welfare checks from the government pay all your bills while you condemn them on youtube. Have you ever wondered about why the Truther movement has fallen off the face of the earth and only exists on a couple of youtube videos. Because its lack of facts and the peoples basic hatred towards the government and in some extreme cases the Jews.
@EdgemanLL2 You obviously haven't been following the Lybia debacle, seeing as the nato backed rebels set up a central bank, UN removed the sanctions once it was erected... Now the rebel-leader in charge was a former Al-Qaeda leader... if you didn't know: Al-Qaeda is just a CIA database of American or Isreali trained operatives in different regions in the world...
It looks a lot more like America is an Al-Qaeda supporter brah...
But you ONLY would have worried about whether or not America is an alqaeda supporter, IF YOU ACTUALLY believed that Alqaeda did 911. If 911 was an inside job, your retarded moron fuxtard ass wouldnt care if we supported the "innocent of 911" alqaeda. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Good job moron. youve just debunked yourself, and admitted all along you were lying--and knew all along Alqaeda did 911.
As always, Edge wins! Fuxtard idiotic moronic shitheaded kookspiritards lose!!
Coincidence theorists are crazier than conspiracy theorists... it's a billion times more likely for 200 unlikely events to happen per second for 30 consecutive seconds by plan than by chance...
@saintearth they lie, except when i comes to this one thing right? how does that make any goddamn sense? they lied to go to Iraq the first time, now the second. WMDs ring a bell? vietnam? Korea? all fucking illegal wars, including Afghanistan... It's amazing that some of you Americans can fucking dress yourself in the morning, let alone stand erect without your gov't telling you what's what. point is do some fucking independent research... you fucking retard. or kill yourself. better just dothat
@saintearth Well, to be fair, I thought you were border line retarded, like someone thinking that body language and tone are present when represented in text. OHHH comparative of someone typing a comment on youtube with sarcasm implied! You ARE borderline retarded, aren't you glad we cleared that up? Congratulations I'm so happy for you!
@imbetterthanyouis are you fucking serious? how does this video make any sense at all? I guess it's what you want to hear, fucking shit for brains. the bowel movement is coming out of your head and onto this page. congratulations
@blackbull420 and all the crap you behold as the so called truth is just what you want to hear as this obviously is not , but at least we can take a joke !
@imbetterthanyouis Yeah, because the gov't performing a false flag operation on it's own people is exactly what I want to hear. This is not what I want to hear because it's not credible, and it's leading you sheeple in the wrong direction. Giving idiotic mentality a safe haven. I just have such low standards for people with your level of ignorance that it's impossible for me not to take a joke. Because you guys are so closed minded that half the dilusional stuff you guys think of is halarious
@blackbull420 oh yeah and calling us sheep and shills and idiots are really going to make us think youre our friend aye ,and yes yes yes we think youre a fuck witt too
@imbetterthanyouis yea man I'm out to get you, better watch out... it's the government you should really listen too... because they're keeping track of every facet of your life, making sure you know only the most important information! Uploading your opinion one update at a time.
No need to get upset if you're dillusional... you're in a state of absolute bliss right now I can tell... telling it like it is... good job... way to stick it to the man.... which is me, not the gov't, right?
@imbetterthanyouis I'm so sorry.... I have a life... must be an interesting concept for you... after that comment, if I'm a witt... what the fuck does that make you?
I dub thee KING SHART
for you are in denial, and check out what thermite actually is I just saw your dumbass video fucking playing with yourself
@blackbull420 lol too much of a fuck witt to know what a fuck witt is i see lol but thanks for proving my point on my vid , maybe you should have read the description !
i know what thermite is and you are the one that believes in a fantasy that thermite did all the things that it in reality cant lol way to fail 3 times in the one comment dickhead !
@imbetterthanyouis omg.. you don't even know that you wouldn't even be aloud thermite because it's a demolishing explosive... you're so incredibly moronic... peace bitch
they don't give explosives to retards... as much as that nice man at the retail store said it was
@failbull420 "you don't even know that you wouldn't even be aloud thermite because it's a demolishing explosive" EPIC FAIL ! , for a start its not an explosive its an incendiary theres a massive difference you dill secondly i could go to the supermarket and buy some thermite wtf do think sparklers are made from and third one of the most common uses for thermite is welding ie train track repairs another triple fail from the epic dickhead !
@imdummerthanyouis lmao, sparklers... I mean exactly like I said it dawg... they don't give demolition equipment to little bitches... I say that with love
@bullshit420 "lmao, sparklers... I mean exactly like I said it dawg... they don't give demolition equipment to little bitches." are you speaking from experience are you admitting youre a little bitch ? since i have handled explosives plenty of times that must mean youre the little bitch ! another epic fail from the retarded little bitch !
@blackbull420 " fireworks and sparklers... your demolition weapon of choice" yyou said that i couldnt get thermite , you never said in what application thermite is in sparklers and my local supermarket sells them so another fail for you
@blackbull420 Of COURSE its what you want to hear. With ZERO evidence to support it, and the sheer absurdity of the specifics (ie, consider everything that has to be true, for the kookspriacy to be true) only someone who desperately wants to believe could believe it.
Youre like a 50 year old, normally educated person believing in Santa--Fat man, lives on the North pole, flies around the world in ONE night and delivers to 7billion people.
@blackbull420 But there still isnt an answer to my question.
Now that we have both agreed the MIHOP is debunked, what evidence have you, credible, and corroborated, that confirms the same hjackers who flew planes on 911 were trained by the US?
@EdgemanLL2 You don't look at evidence anyway... what would be the point of following through with you? Loose Change shows you every important detail... you're just too much of a bitch to actually maturely respond to anything I say... you'd just blurt out like an ignoramus ad hominem asshole that I'm "a moron' and that 'edge wins'
I love talking to you because I can hardly tell if you have a pulse sometimes.. you're in denial like an asshole that just sharted itself, congrats, you're king shart
alright well you can just keep on being in denial then brah, no skin off my back... just trying to point you in the right direction is all... I can see that you will have your eyes closed for a long time... that is until FEMA sends you to camp... good luck with your economy... who are you voting for in the next elections anyway? I see you as a geingrich supporter lol
@EdgemanLL2 lmao, you don't even read my comments... you don't address one thing... you don't even try to look one thing up... I could literally type "9/11 inside job" - you would reply "Edge wins" and it would go on like an infinitesimal loop until one of us gets frustrated enough to quit, the only problem is your replies are so easy and retarded , and you're so lame and socially awkward, that it's impossible for you to stop responding until you die...sad
@blackbull420 um ok dick head christmas easter new years eve is just another day but since i posted that comment a week ago and is time stamped you have no excuse for saying its you tubes fault 7 hours ago you could have walked away and made me look like a dick head but nup you are the one who responded with a retarded excuse funny though you last responded to a thing i posted a month before and made a retort to that but now you are being dumbfounded by a week ,, realy ?
@blackbull420 go back and have a look , i mean its only one page , this shouldnt be a stretch for a super twoofer investigator know at all like you , you did it before ,,,but for the record at this point its 12 27 03011012 you posted youre msg 7 hours ago this no matter how you look at it makes it after n y e sooo whos sad now ?
@imdummerthanyouis point was you didn't look for the conversation... are you mentally handicapped or something? You're talking about me being up all night, sorry you go to bed at 7:30pm every night when your mommy tucks you in your jammies and serves you your warm milk, lmao good job. Thermite is highly flammable demolition explosive btw, so you can tell your mom whose being feeding you these bedtime lies.
OH watch 'The Wall' by pink floyd... ooooooo....baby blue..
@bullshit420 "Thermite is highly flammable demolition explosive btw" lol for something to be defined as " explosive " it must have a reaction faster than the speed of sound something no type of thermite does another epic fail! thermite does not work by releasing a pressure wave at high velocity that makes it not an explosive it works by releasing heat that makes it an incendiary 2 completely different things you fucking dill
@blackbull420 ive seen it and he like other twoofer doccos say completely differing things to each other , jesse was not a seal , and this is just another wankey pay check to him , the warehouse containing the steel was opened up to nat geo who even filmed in side it maybe he should have asked , there was more to the thermite video that was edited where the bloke who does the test shows that the thermite did fuck all ,then there was the laughable and predictable witness that was in great
@blackbull420 duress but still allowed himself to be filmed , its all for entertainment purposes , just look at the darpa episode jesse couldnt get no where near the place that has bi annual guided tours , but ultimately like all doccos of the type they ask the so called hard questions and all end up with fuck all in the way of answers , hehe you probably think wrestlings real too
@imbetterthanyouis lmao, omg that just showed your true colours right there.
That's a whole new level of scumbag right there, I'm impressed. You almost had me doubt myself. A quick wikipedia search reminded me that he was part of the Navy Underwater Demolition Team in Vietnam... it's a documentary no bullshit, look at the experiment and you will see for yourself. I know you don't care about the truth, just your own web of deception. & he certainly couldn't get into HAARP's headquarters, dumbass
@blackbull420 It was about 10 years after Jesse left that UDT and Seals combined their training and became one unit. When Jesse (the bullshitter) Ventura was in UDT, UDT and Seals were 2 completely separate things.
My fav part of the Jesse "documentary" is when he drama's for the cam "what they dont want us to see, is right behind this door!!!" Pulls on the door handle, and cant get in! Great Kook Drama.
Of course, the door has window he could have just looked through! LMGDAO PWNED!
@blackbull420 oh yeah thats the one haarp how about you check it out for youre self they have bi annual guided tours ,, udt was not the same thing as the navy seals when he was in he didnt do the rest of the sf seal training so hes not a seal , but as a clearance diver he should know that thermite isnt an explosive as a senator he should know a lot more than he does , jesses show isnt factual nor is it proof of anything its just good tele focussed at muppets like you !
@imlazierthanyouis I just gave you all the info you needed. He was a frogman, underwater demolition during vietnam. Shows how bigoted you are, they cover the tours how it went to once every 2 years... look at the damn episode, you don't have to believe everything, just look at it... I'm so tired of telling you over and over to look at it... you're so short sighted you can't see past your short dick,
@blackbu so he was a frog man udts generally do underwater uxo and demmo work counter sabotage , they dont do lrrp and ct work sooo a seal he wasnt !
bigoted ?i didnt know stupidity was a race , im only having a go at you cuz youre a dill if you seem to think that has something to do with youre demographic then thats youre problem . as for a short dick well youre mom seemed to enjoy it well at least i think she did i mean i wasnt the only one there and she did have her mouth full
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since the govt. committed 9/11, why arent truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?
If there was no flight 93, please explain how 95% of the plane debris was recovered?
If there was no flight 77, please explain how 130+ witnesses reported seeing a plane?
@IMPAQT Dude, you are retarded as fuck! The 9/11 'Truth' movement is slowly dying with each passing year! Congrats on having the shittiest little pea-sized brain on YouTube Now, go hang yourself!
@lighthouse500 Hey, I'm not the one spreading around tired, old conspiracy theories, about a 'New World Order' that doesn't exist, but if you want to continue living in a fantasy world, feel free. I could care less. In the real world, everyone knows that terrorists attacked the U.S. on 9/11, and anything to the contrary, is complete bullshit. If you don't want to accept that, then that's your problem. Too bad.
@mcorivervsaf yes your right terroist did attack the usa just not for the resons you belive, but your right its about perception. and your gorverment is not in the pockets of the Rothschild banking cartels who own isreal..... but its all lies, so get back to your fake freedom democracy where 1% own 80% of your wealth while the world slowly dies
@lighthouse500 yeah well since 911 the financial community has taken a beating , before and up to 911 they were going great and getting better every day , so youre brilliant idea is they were going so well they said to the government hay we have too much money can you do something to fuck the works so all this electronic funds will stop taking up room tkx bai , since when have banks wanted to lose money ?
@imbetterthanyouis money is nothing to these ppl they control the money supply they dont care about banks its all about control and fear, i no where you are coming from, but you are missing the concept of there game, money is worthless its just paper dont forget or even less just numbers on a screen, its the control they hold over the system that they play games with to gain more and more power not just money
@lighthouse500 wipe out the masses theres nothing to control piss off the masses and they will revolt and you lose control make the masses poor then you have to look after them or else they get the shits and revolt keep the masses happy and you wont need to control them ,,, not my fault the masses are a bunch of dumb cunts
I know you guys have a pretty solid veil over your eyes, but check out what actual architects and engineers have to say about it on ae911truth's Channel. By the way, I'm not a 'truther' because it's fucking popular, you guys try convincing someone as hard nosed and stubborn as you assholes... No offence... but I'd rather listen to an actual professional on the subject
@blackbull420 I know, I keep listening to the entire story and finding out that there was no conspiracy. For instance Loose Change said that one fire fighter said that there was only a small fire on the 78th floor and that was the reason why people were jumping out of windows on the 95th-105th floor instead of just walking down the stairs on the other side of the building. But then there was another call from a firefighter who said that there was more fire on the same floor on the other side
@rangers94ism I know we only have 500 characters to reply, but I can't really say I've been persuaded. Check '9/11 Road to Tyranny'. Give it a listen everything is well documented. It's on youtube, but Google video has it in full.
@blackbull420 I tried to watch it, but the information was so taken out of context and down right wrong that I could only get about half way through it before I got so angry I had to turn it off. Honestly this subject is so depressing that I can't watch the footage anymore. Every time you see those towers fall you are watching people die. So I don't want to argue anymore I just want to say that I did give your view a chance and I can't go along with it
@rangers94ism "so angryyyy", you didn't lose anyone in the attacks. Americans have killed 72 Iraqis for every American dead on that day, mainly civilians. Most Afghanis don't even know why you're there. you're in denial and a little pussy if you let the oldest war go on with false causes and you're 'too mad' to think about it. look at Loose Change final cut, has the most updated information, try and debunk it please.
@blackbull420 So your point is that i should not care about the people who died and their families? What a compassionate response. I guess that I should stop grieving over family members that I personally lost because some little boy in Africa died from AIDS. I am from LI and I helped with the Red Cross at ground zero that week. LC final cut. Is this the 'final cut' because they are lying and they had to change their story a few times?
@rangers94ism I have no idea how you got that idea, empathy is only really strongest when something happens to those close to you (like your family, tragedy in your city). I'm saying vengeance through war (fighting fire with fire) is not the best way to deal with a tragedy. Have you seen 'Sicko'? It's not totally accurate, but the 9/11 responders are not getting adequate care and insurance from the bronchial diseases they've acquired. So, do you have breathing problems?
@EdgemanLL2 The point was: 'Do you care about 9/11 response vets & the inadequate health care they're receiving." Mike Moore is pretty biased like any pundit, but if you watch 'Sicko' see that the EPA said the air was safe to breath (at G.Z.), although it was quite the contrary.
You gotta start seeing things with a more open mind, the way you guys argue isn't really convincing anyone that isn't already hearing what they want to hear.
LMgiddayO And 'they' wonder why they're douchebags
@blackbull420 and the counterpont was that only shitheaded MORONS take anything Moore says as even vaguely accurate--much less "not totally accurate."
@EdgemanLL2 Wow I'd love 2 hear some of your "ever credible" sources. You are in serious denial dude, I'm done arguing with your dumbass. Don't take Moore's word for it, look it up... for once.
The way you argue sounds like a whiny little bitch to me:"only shitheaded morons". Well only a crotchety uneducated jerkoff thinks his opinion is "fact"? Why don't you CHECK some facts or take a class on critical thinking. Good luck with your delusional thoughts,& I know your ego needs the last word.
@EdgemanLL2 Dude, I tried. Your main argument is that no source is credible except your own diluted opinion, if people realize they can't talk logical sense into you, they're whining losers. I've just figured out by now that your MASSIVE ego has a negative correlation to your dick size, which is why you're in denial over a number of issues.
Edge... refers himself in the third person
That's because Edge is a winner
much like everyone in special education is a 'winner'
@blackbull420 "Your main argument is that no source is credible"
Straw man. That was never said. So Your main "argument" appears to be "Im bitchbull and Im a fuxing idiot. I cant refute Edge. He is way WAY to smart for a moron like me. So Ill just make up stuff he never said, pretend he said it, then reply to that!"
Sure, you didnt HAVE to make up a lie and pretend I claimed "no source is credible." But you made up that lie anyway. Because youre too much a pussy to face the truth that I was right.
@blackbull420 <--Admitted 911 was an outside job. Ran off like a little bitch.
But Edge pulled the puppets strings, and back my little puppet comes. =]
Of course I read your comments,. YOU said "sure dude you win, I give up."
Surrender accepted. When asked for proof all youve done is whine like the little bitch that you are about me. Whining about me isnt proof, bitch. It just proves youre a bitch who knows she has no proof. =].
@EdgemanLL2 lmao that was a long one! so proud! why don't you answer the other comments above this one? Your arguments are always so well thought out Edgebabycakes! You must have ACED that critical thinking class.
The absolute irony is striking I must admit... you truly are the puppet master Edgeshlammed kudos, you win again! I'm melllttiiinngg......blurph blurph
@Edgebabycakes <--- loves himself I was actually 'honouring' your great wisdom oh knowledgeable prophet I guess you really can't register thoughts that aren't your own. Do you know why Edge wins? Because he will always win and that's the truth. so all you nay-sayers out there watch out! because there is silly little man out there that will WIN THAT ARGUMENT NO MATTER WHAT THE TOPIC! Because he's so knowledgeable! Because he knows, everything he ought to know! And that's how the world works
@EdgemanLL2 what by using the lowest form of wit? yep you sure are winning lol and everyone can see that fact right..... so il ask again how can you stop are movment it must be your goal to spend everyday of your life on us lol, such a sad life you have edge, this is a fact, if you keep acting liek you do you will turn ppl against you and against what you are saying and that is a FACT of life, so like i said keep it up :D
@lighthouse500 It's funny, I get email on my phone, while I was at work this guy replies to a youtube post at 1130 am on a fucking Monday (barely) morning.
Let's start thinking of the myriad of explanations to help justify this sad state of affairs.
@blackbull420 Since youve admitted you are minimally aware of technology that allows people to connect to the internet even over the phone, you clearly cant claim to be too stupid to realize people dont have to be at home to be on the internet. LOLOL. Plus (since in your 40+ years of living in Moms basement you never realized) educated adults (something you ll never be) who have job that dont involve "would you like some fries with that" use comuters are work.
@EdgemanLL2 You should probably be WORKING at work, not going on youtube. Secondly, work on your spelling before you decide to call me uneducated. Plus, I just said that I get emails on my phone, I just don't decide to answer them while I'm at work. Jesus your dense, and where's the 'Edge wins', I miss that little conclusive anecdote you always add, gets me every time.
Mister educated, you missed a lot of apostrophes and I believe you meant to say 'comPuters AT work'.
@blackbull420 you should prolly try getting a job in the first place, before coaching others.
And you should seek professional help for your mental illness. Projection itself isnt that serious. But if left untreated it can become a dibilitaing phobia. =]
Try focusing on the argument instead of trying to discredit the other person all the time, it's a lot more convincing.
If you must know, I just got back from work... plus I was ripping on your spelling since you were calling me uneducated. We argue about mad pointless shit, I have to get some readings done, don't hate me for not responding next time. It's just the world outside seems a lot more appealing. Happy blazing trails.
@blackbull420 Poor girl. uses ad homs. then whines when the ad homs back fire on her! LOLOL.
Focus on THIS argument, bitch "Show me any shred of evidence--that can be credibly corroborated--where we see govt agents participating in the attacks."
Focus on that. And when youre forced to admit you have nothing, we can then agree how fuxing RETARDED the kook movement is, for peddling bullshit that has NO basis in fact to support it. =]
@EdgemanLL2 Loose change final cut. Highjackers were trained on US military bases. Air force one the only plane in the air after massive grounding from all commercial airlines. Agents seen picking up debris from the pentagon before any investigation could have taken place. JUST OFF HAND. Way to stay on point, now you just have to look up your facts. I love how you call critical thinkers retarded and kooks, shows you got class, and really adds to your credibility, takes a special kind of person.
@blackbull420 "Loose change final cut. Highjackers were trained on US military bases."
Despite the isntant chuckle of "I saw it on an internet movie, its gotta be true," at least we now can agree that 911 was a terrorist attack, with real, no shit terrorists hijacking real, no shit airplanes, and then CD issue is exploded as a lie.
Now, what evidence have you, credibly corroborated, that confirms (one example) Mohammed Atta was trained to fly at a US military base.
@blackbull420 So bascally you admit you have no evidence the hijackers were trained by the US. So you change the subject to DRG whining for 40 mins that kookspiritards get mocked in the press.
@EdgemanLL2 You don't do any research yourself... You're like a brick wall, Check out Loose Change it'll show you what you need to know.
I may be trying to convince you, and it's apparently not working... but you're not even trying to convince me, is it laziness? or is it that you're job is to shoot me down no matter what I say with pathetic ad hominem? You're not even fucking convinced of what you're saying, How do you expect me to believe any of your made up bullshit? Give up Edgebabycakes
@EdgemanLL2 Serious Denial Edgebabycakes, Loose Change may be an internet film (notice how I addressed your obvious credence) but every scrap of footage was from news reports actually shown on tv, and is accessible public data. The resources are all there. So it's quite simple: A) Fragmenting your paragraphs doesn't make you smarter or (8====D) B) that's it lmao, Let's explore some other issues while were exchanging ideas! The fancy new police state? The TSA? death penalty? U<3 8====D?
@EdgemanLL2 that's right you're fucking spam... you have this auto reply botton "edge wins" "edge wins" "you're a moron" "you're with us or the terrorists" edge wins" "edge wins" "douchebag overload"
@EdgemanLL2 lmao, you're so soft man, you're old lady must not be very happy if your arguing is anything like your fucking.
LOOSE CHANGE LOOSE CHANGE WATCH IT! GIVE IT A TRY! TRY LISTENING! TRY DEBUNKING! TRY doing something with your time that doesn't involve being a sap for the establishment... good luck with your life edgebabycakes
You love the police state, you embrace the police state, ignorance is bliss, ignorance is safety, the status quo is a quilt keeping you warm and safe. Sleep now
@EdgemanLL2 still no proof we are wrong edge? ok cool never mind, oh and oh whats that your beloved goverment are helping Al qaeda in Libya? lol now that place is a warzone wiht tens of thousands dead in the name of liberating the ppl lmao ohhh here comes the banking cartels of the Rothschailds to suck the place dry as usal
@EdgemanLL2 You should probably learn to spell, before talking out of your asshole. Can't believe I didn't think of that... you may be pompous, narcissistic, and incredibly misinformed, but you're comments have this arrogant simplicity that just leads me to love making fun of you
@EdgemanLL2 look at all the ratings on the vids edge your not convincing anyone more and more belive its all a set up and the goverments are in the bankers pockets, you cant win edge no matter how many times you say you have won lmao
Respond to this video... Here is a debunk, no demolition ever had the building burning for about an hour before setting off the explosives. And who set the explosives, and how where they able to put all of those explosives in the correct spots? And why am I trying to prove America's Innocents when we are innocent until proven guilty. This whole conspiracy is so ridiculous that people laugh when I mention that there are people like you who believe this.
@rangers94ism Well, thermite can be painted on as shown in Jesse Ventura conspiracy theory episode 2, so there's that theory. Then there was the cut nighttime security in the the months leading up to September, so there's the theory that is was painted on, as well as the testimony from people who worked in the basement that there were explosions at the base of the infrastructure.
@blackbull420 Well, the actual professionals on the subject pass peer-review, and 99.9999% of them are NOT in the kook movement.
The actual experts to do the examinations and calculations thorough enough to pass per review all reject the 911 moron movement's losers. Even the guy who designed the think admits they collapsed exactly as the yshould have, and there was no stopping it.
Yes, you are wise to accept the ACTUAL experts, and reject the 911 twoofy rejects.
@EdgemanLL2 thanks for pointing me to your sources, a lot of firsts that day right? you're not exactly a physics expert dude. The debris was moved off of all the cites to keep an independent investigation from happening (not that we needed one, right?), and you believe that they didn't find the black boxes... check out Jesse Ventura: conspiracy theory episode 2. He used to do underwater demolition.
@bitchbull420 So, you STILL dont have any actual calculations and examinations (from the kook movement) that were complete enough to pass peer-review?
@EdgemanLL2 So many of your own professors got fired, just for trying to have their students know WHY so many people around the world hate your rogue state. You're blasting me for peer review? Guess what, your history is being rewritten and you are STILL in denial.
stbays you're wasting your time talking to a truther like purepowerpunk. The videos of bin laden admitting his operatives did 9/11 was not faked. The FBI or CIA didn't do the 93 attack on the WTC. Operation Northwoods never happened. And surely if Bush planned 9/11 to go after Iraq, why were the "terroroists" from Saudi Arabia? Oops. Stupid truthers talk utter shit at all times and should be ignored.
What's more interesting is how numbers might not lie, but the people wielding them often do. There's no shortage of people willingfully willing to manipulate the data to come up with all sorts of "coincidences". Are you one of them? Maybe not, but I see a lot of stretches in your statement. Why you'd seperate the numbers the way you did just to add them together is something I can't see a point in doing.
is it true that most truthers are actually 13 year old boys that watch way too many preposterous "action adventure movies" with lottsa car chases ,explosions and huge muzzle flashes (ie .rambo,norris ,vin diesle,the rock ,etc ) produced especially for hapless ,lonely adolescent boys who live in households completely devoid actual books,fathers and lives beyond cretinous,FPS video games .?
Some people think and learn stuff. When they do that, they get better and better at recognizing truth or finding it on their own. Some of the comments here discourage thinking and learning, and others encourage it. Try sorting them out by supporters of this video and detractors of it, and then sort them out by encouragement of thinking and learning and discouragement of it. See if you find a correlation.
I've noticed over the last 10 years that "Truthers" say the same few lines over and over. They never seem to move beyond the initial information that caused them to ask questions. Normal people on the other hand have continued to provide new information, evolving what they know and moving forward.
Questions are the beginning of truth, but not the end of it.
Perhaps the "same few lines" are repeated because the questions haven't been answered.
What lines are being repeated?
I have seen new information from both sides. i can defend a lot of the "odd behavior" that either side exhibits once someone characterizes it (as you have). But I can't defend anyone who discourages thinking and learning.
Off the top of my head, the time it took the buildings to fall, the fact that the inner columns fell after the outer columns, the meaning of "pull it", that the buildings didn't fall into their foot print. Granted, these bits of information don't have to go against a theory that it was an "inside job" but they are facts that I rarely see "truthers" learning.
You mention two measurements (time of fall, meaning of "pull it") and two facts (inner columns fell later, buildings didn't fall into their footprint). They are all "bits of information", but I haven't heard them repeated a lot. I thought you were going to tell us some of the "same few lines" that they say "over and over". I thought perhaps you'd mention bits of unburned thermite or pools of molten steel. I was also curious what questions they ask, that you know about. Thanks!
I was trying to present new information rather then the old lines I hear. Such as Building 7, freefall, Larry said Pull It, etc.
The questions they ask are usually just questions they want to answer, not questions they genuinely wish to find the answer to. If you want a list of those questions, well I guess the best place to start is Loose Change, a collection of their questions. Or better, watch "Screw Loose Change" and see some of the answers.
Ok, I found tons of 9/11 questions, and a few answers. I have to disagree with you that "that "Truthers" say the same few lines over and over". The "important" questions nowadays seem to be about why the government and media don't collect and publish more evidence. Anyway, I suppose everyone should explore the issues themselves. Hmm... would that make me a "Truther"?
If you spend enough time here watching videos and don't dismiss information simply because of who said it, you'll eventually find a lot of answers have been given.
Good advice. I'd say reading is more useful than watching videos simply because a mind is more active while reading than while watching, which makes it easier to detect whether you're being encouraged to think and learn, or discouraged from it. Also, you'd want to avoid restricting the number of places you check out.
And really, we all want the truth, right? "Truther" seems to have been given an aura of denigration. To combat that, I'll proudly call myself one. Join me?
There's the little old man theory, too. A little old man was frequently seen riding the 911 elevators. He is believed to have planted bombs. I read this is some magazine. It seems plausible.
Glinkaism1 2 days ago
@Glinkaism1 Furthermore, he was always on a cell phone. That's quite suspicious. I bet he wasn't talking to Rush. :)
Be on the lookout, constantly.
Glinkaism1 1 day ago
awe shutting up a truther. My job is done.
Bcm80 3 days ago
Here is a prime example of a useless fruitcake with a computer.
Glinkaism1 3 days ago
You HIDE behind a mask because you are a faggot wuss.
Glinkaism1 1 week ago
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@Glinkaism1
@wellifthemediasaysit
Dr. James Millette of MVA Scientific Consultants
Peer reviewed study of WTC dust samples
2/28/2012
"The red/gray chips found in the WTC dust at four sites in NYC are consistent with a carbon steel coated with an epoxy resin that contains primarily iron oxide & kaolin clay pigments."
"There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips, therefore the red/gray chips is not thermite or nanothermite."
ctcole77 4 days ago
@Glinkaism1 It's a film making fun a of a useless movement that majors in lies and deceit. Your just mad because it is pretty accurate.
Bcm80 3 days ago
@Bcm80 lern2spel, you fucking moron! HA!
Glinkaism1 3 days ago
@Glinkaism1 well your useless. Thats your reply. I guess I shouldn't expected much from a truther. Let me guess your unemployed right. Welfare checks from the government pay all your bills while you condemn them on youtube. Have you ever wondered about why the Truther movement has fallen off the face of the earth and only exists on a couple of youtube videos. Because its lack of facts and the peoples basic hatred towards the government and in some extreme cases the Jews.
Bcm80 3 days ago
@Bcm80 You are a typical lowlife no-good living in your mom's basement using her computer.
Glinkaism1 2 days ago
@Glinkaism1 lol your way off but your a truther. Your use to being wrong by now right lol
Bcm80 2 days ago
@Glinkaism1 2:10 is the phony mask you wear when you lay around Wall Street and poop on cars.
Glinkaism1 2 days ago
love this video!
truthers are total douchebags and morons
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@EdgemanLL2 You obviously haven't been following the Lybia debacle, seeing as the nato backed rebels set up a central bank, UN removed the sanctions once it was erected... Now the rebel-leader in charge was a former Al-Qaeda leader... if you didn't know: Al-Qaeda is just a CIA database of American or Isreali trained operatives in different regions in the world...
It looks a lot more like America is an Al-Qaeda supporter brah...
so you know
Edge does no research
Edge is ignorant
& will stay
blackbull420 2 months ago
@bitchbull420
But you ONLY would have worried about whether or not America is an alqaeda supporter, IF YOU ACTUALLY believed that Alqaeda did 911. If 911 was an inside job, your retarded moron fuxtard ass wouldnt care if we supported the "innocent of 911" alqaeda. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Good job moron. youve just debunked yourself, and admitted all along you were lying--and knew all along Alqaeda did 911.
As always, Edge wins! Fuxtard idiotic moronic shitheaded kookspiritards lose!!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 sure dude you win, I give up
you're way too retarded to even acknowledge
blackbull420 2 months ago
@bitchbull420 <--Admitted 911 was an outside job.
Runs off like a little bitch.
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 lmao I understand now
you are a moth to a flame
but you side with darkness
because you are a coward,
because it gives you a thrill to go along with something
the system you love is being taken down, imploded
you will welcome the new world order
like leading sheep into the slaughter
blackbull420 2 months ago
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Coincidence theorists are crazier than conspiracy theorists... it's a billion times more likely for 200 unlikely events to happen per second for 30 consecutive seconds by plan than by chance...
zakquack 3 months ago
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zakquack 3 months ago
manson and rage are on the same side as you the side of satan.
repent quick before satan takes you.
god bless you.
shnarfers 3 months ago
I love how he says DUH!
MazJax 3 months ago
sounds like an almighty tap out to me
imbetterthanyouis 4 months ago
Politicians/ government officials lie except when it comes to 9/11. They would never lie about that.
saintearth 4 months ago
@saintearth they lie, except when i comes to this one thing right? how does that make any goddamn sense? they lied to go to Iraq the first time, now the second. WMDs ring a bell? vietnam? Korea? all fucking illegal wars, including Afghanistan... It's amazing that some of you Americans can fucking dress yourself in the morning, let alone stand erect without your gov't telling you what's what. point is do some fucking independent research... you fucking retard. or kill yourself. better just dothat
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 That was a joke. You know sarcasm? Get back on your meds freak.
saintearth 4 months ago
@saintearth Well, to be fair, I thought you were border line retarded, like someone thinking that body language and tone are present when represented in text. OHHH comparative of someone typing a comment on youtube with sarcasm implied! You ARE borderline retarded, aren't you glad we cleared that up? Congratulations I'm so happy for you!
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 At least we can agree that it was a controlled demolition in NYC on 9/11. Get back to your crack pipe now. Good boy.
saintearth 4 months ago
@saintearth Just like the CIA said to black neighborhoods in the 80s.
Try and make your point more clear next time, yes?
Helps not to be a little bitch either if someone replies to your dumbass comments, especially if we're in agreement.
I'm sorry I told you to go kill yourself, in all fairness I didn't mean it, but I thought it was hilarious at the time.
blackbull420 4 months ago
lol its funny cuz its true in fact i think this is the only truth in the truth bowel movement !
imbetterthanyouis 4 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis are you fucking serious? how does this video make any sense at all? I guess it's what you want to hear, fucking shit for brains. the bowel movement is coming out of your head and onto this page. congratulations
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 and all the crap you behold as the so called truth is just what you want to hear as this obviously is not , but at least we can take a joke !
imbetterthanyouis 4 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis Yeah, because the gov't performing a false flag operation on it's own people is exactly what I want to hear. This is not what I want to hear because it's not credible, and it's leading you sheeple in the wrong direction. Giving idiotic mentality a safe haven. I just have such low standards for people with your level of ignorance that it's impossible for me not to take a joke. Because you guys are so closed minded that half the dilusional stuff you guys think of is halarious
blackbull420 3 months ago
@blackbull420 oh yeah and calling us sheep and shills and idiots are really going to make us think youre our friend aye ,and yes yes yes we think youre a fuck witt too
imbetterthanyouis 3 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis yea man I'm out to get you, better watch out... it's the government you should really listen too... because they're keeping track of every facet of your life, making sure you know only the most important information! Uploading your opinion one update at a time.
No need to get upset if you're dillusional... you're in a state of absolute bliss right now I can tell... telling it like it is... good job... way to stick it to the man.... which is me, not the gov't, right?
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 fucken hell did it really take you a full month to think of that come back ?
and no im only sticking it to you cuz you sound like a fuck witt !
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis I'm so sorry.... I have a life... must be an interesting concept for you... after that comment, if I'm a witt... what the fuck does that make you?
I dub thee KING SHART
for you are in denial, and check out what thermite actually is I just saw your dumbass video fucking playing with yourself
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 lol too much of a fuck witt to know what a fuck witt is i see lol but thanks for proving my point on my vid , maybe you should have read the description !
i know what thermite is and you are the one that believes in a fantasy that thermite did all the things that it in reality cant lol way to fail 3 times in the one comment dickhead !
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis omg.. you don't even know that you wouldn't even be aloud thermite because it's a demolishing explosive... you're so incredibly moronic... peace bitch
they don't give explosives to retards... as much as that nice man at the retail store said it was
blackbull420 2 months ago
@failbull420 "you don't even know that you wouldn't even be aloud thermite because it's a demolishing explosive" EPIC FAIL ! , for a start its not an explosive its an incendiary theres a massive difference you dill secondly i could go to the supermarket and buy some thermite wtf do think sparklers are made from and third one of the most common uses for thermite is welding ie train track repairs another triple fail from the epic dickhead !
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@imdummerthanyouis lmao, sparklers... I mean exactly like I said it dawg... they don't give demolition equipment to little bitches... I say that with love
blackbull420 2 months ago
@bullshit420 "lmao, sparklers... I mean exactly like I said it dawg... they don't give demolition equipment to little bitches." are you speaking from experience are you admitting youre a little bitch ? since i have handled explosives plenty of times that must mean youre the little bitch ! another epic fail from the retarded little bitch !
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis lmao... fireworks and sparklers... your demolition weapon of choice
Go to Project free tv
go to television shows
go to Jesse Ventura Conspiracy theory
episode 2
check it out, if don't believe me about thermite, just look at it
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 " fireworks and sparklers... your demolition weapon of choice" yyou said that i couldnt get thermite , you never said in what application thermite is in sparklers and my local supermarket sells them so another fail for you
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@blackbull420 Of COURSE its what you want to hear. With ZERO evidence to support it, and the sheer absurdity of the specifics (ie, consider everything that has to be true, for the kookspriacy to be true) only someone who desperately wants to believe could believe it.
Youre like a 50 year old, normally educated person believing in Santa--Fat man, lives on the North pole, flies around the world in ONE night and delivers to 7billion people.
Only someone insanely desperate TO believe, will.
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
@blackbull420 But there still isnt an answer to my question.
Now that we have both agreed the MIHOP is debunked, what evidence have you, credible, and corroborated, that confirms the same hjackers who flew planes on 911 were trained by the US?
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 You don't look at evidence anyway... what would be the point of following through with you? Loose Change shows you every important detail... you're just too much of a bitch to actually maturely respond to anything I say... you'd just blurt out like an ignoramus ad hominem asshole that I'm "a moron' and that 'edge wins'
I love talking to you because I can hardly tell if you have a pulse sometimes.. you're in denial like an asshole that just sharted itself, congrats, you're king shart
blackbull420 2 months ago
@bitchbull420 "You dont look at evidence anyway..."
Because you dont have any.
if you had some, trust me, people WOULD look.
Failtown. Population YOU! HAHAHA.
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 lmao... you're actually funny
alright well you can just keep on being in denial then brah, no skin off my back... just trying to point you in the right direction is all... I can see that you will have your eyes closed for a long time... that is until FEMA sends you to camp... good luck with your economy... who are you voting for in the next elections anyway? I see you as a geingrich supporter lol
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 So, still nothing?
I see yous an Al Qaeda Supporter. HAHAHAHA
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 lmao, you don't even read my comments... you don't address one thing... you don't even try to look one thing up... I could literally type "9/11 inside job" - you would reply "Edge wins" and it would go on like an infinitesimal loop until one of us gets frustrated enough to quit, the only problem is your replies are so easy and retarded , and you're so lame and socially awkward, that it's impossible for you to stop responding until you die...sad
lmao Edge Wins!!
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 i guess ill just wait another month for a reply ?
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis LMFAO...
Reply to what, exactly?
Were we talking at this part? Because I see no text between you and I, so that's funny.
you figured that because it's around New Years, and I have a life... well you're wrong! youtube response time!
you were just aching for a reply, to whatever... admit it lover :-D
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 um ok dick head christmas easter new years eve is just another day but since i posted that comment a week ago and is time stamped you have no excuse for saying its you tubes fault 7 hours ago you could have walked away and made me look like a dick head but nup you are the one who responded with a retarded excuse funny though you last responded to a thing i posted a month before and made a retort to that but now you are being dumbfounded by a week ,, realy ?
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@blackbull420 go back and have a look , i mean its only one page , this shouldnt be a stretch for a super twoofer investigator know at all like you , you did it before ,,,but for the record at this point its 12 27 03011012 you posted youre msg 7 hours ago this no matter how you look at it makes it after n y e sooo whos sad now ?
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@imdummerthanyouis point was you didn't look for the conversation... are you mentally handicapped or something? You're talking about me being up all night, sorry you go to bed at 7:30pm every night when your mommy tucks you in your jammies and serves you your warm milk, lmao good job. Thermite is highly flammable demolition explosive btw, so you can tell your mom whose being feeding you these bedtime lies.
OH watch 'The Wall' by pink floyd... ooooooo....baby blue..
that song came to mind
blackbull420 2 months ago
@bullshit420 "Thermite is highly flammable demolition explosive btw" lol for something to be defined as " explosive " it must have a reaction faster than the speed of sound something no type of thermite does another epic fail! thermite does not work by releasing a pressure wave at high velocity that makes it not an explosive it works by releasing heat that makes it an incendiary 2 completely different things you fucking dill
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis lmao,
go to project free tv
go to jesse ventura conspiracy theory
episode 2
you obviously don't believe what I say, just watch it
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 ive seen it and he like other twoofer doccos say completely differing things to each other , jesse was not a seal , and this is just another wankey pay check to him , the warehouse containing the steel was opened up to nat geo who even filmed in side it maybe he should have asked , there was more to the thermite video that was edited where the bloke who does the test shows that the thermite did fuck all ,then there was the laughable and predictable witness that was in great
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@blackbull420 duress but still allowed himself to be filmed , its all for entertainment purposes , just look at the darpa episode jesse couldnt get no where near the place that has bi annual guided tours , but ultimately like all doccos of the type they ask the so called hard questions and all end up with fuck all in the way of answers , hehe you probably think wrestlings real too
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis lmao, omg that just showed your true colours right there.
That's a whole new level of scumbag right there, I'm impressed. You almost had me doubt myself. A quick wikipedia search reminded me that he was part of the Navy Underwater Demolition Team in Vietnam... it's a documentary no bullshit, look at the experiment and you will see for yourself. I know you don't care about the truth, just your own web of deception. & he certainly couldn't get into HAARP's headquarters, dumbass
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 It was about 10 years after Jesse left that UDT and Seals combined their training and became one unit. When Jesse (the bullshitter) Ventura was in UDT, UDT and Seals were 2 completely separate things.
My fav part of the Jesse "documentary" is when he drama's for the cam "what they dont want us to see, is right behind this door!!!" Pulls on the door handle, and cant get in! Great Kook Drama.
Of course, the door has window he could have just looked through! LMGDAO PWNED!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@blackbull420 oh yeah thats the one haarp how about you check it out for youre self they have bi annual guided tours ,, udt was not the same thing as the navy seals when he was in he didnt do the rest of the sf seal training so hes not a seal , but as a clearance diver he should know that thermite isnt an explosive as a senator he should know a lot more than he does , jesses show isnt factual nor is it proof of anything its just good tele focussed at muppets like you !
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
@imlazierthanyouis I just gave you all the info you needed. He was a frogman, underwater demolition during vietnam. Shows how bigoted you are, they cover the tours how it went to once every 2 years... look at the damn episode, you don't have to believe everything, just look at it... I'm so tired of telling you over and over to look at it... you're so short sighted you can't see past your short dick,
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbu so he was a frog man udts generally do underwater uxo and demmo work counter sabotage , they dont do lrrp and ct work sooo a seal he wasnt !
bigoted ?i didnt know stupidity was a race , im only having a go at you cuz youre a dill if you seem to think that has something to do with youre demographic then thats youre problem . as for a short dick well youre mom seemed to enjoy it well at least i think she did i mean i wasnt the only one there and she did have her mouth full
imbetterthanyouis 2 months ago
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3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since the govt. committed 9/11, why arent truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?
If there was no flight 93, please explain how 95% of the plane debris was recovered?
If there was no flight 77, please explain how 130+ witnesses reported seeing a plane?
ctcole77 1 month ago
Dude, this video, is retarded as fuck. Grats on the most shittiest video on youtube. Now, go hang yourself.
IMPAQT 4 months ago 2
@IMPAQT Dude, you are retarded as fuck! The 9/11 'Truth' movement is slowly dying with each passing year! Congrats on having the shittiest little pea-sized brain on YouTube Now, go hang yourself!
mcorivervsaf 4 months ago
@mcorivervsaf hmmm deing you say ok keep beliving that and good luck with your views on your mighty usa lmao
lighthouse500 4 months ago
@lighthouse500 Hey, I'm not the one spreading around tired, old conspiracy theories, about a 'New World Order' that doesn't exist, but if you want to continue living in a fantasy world, feel free. I could care less. In the real world, everyone knows that terrorists attacked the U.S. on 9/11, and anything to the contrary, is complete bullshit. If you don't want to accept that, then that's your problem. Too bad.
mcorivervsaf 4 months ago
@mcorivervsaf yes your right terroist did attack the usa just not for the resons you belive, but your right its about perception. and your gorverment is not in the pockets of the Rothschild banking cartels who own isreal..... but its all lies, so get back to your fake freedom democracy where 1% own 80% of your wealth while the world slowly dies
lighthouse500 4 months ago
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@lighthouse500 Right, everything is a conspiracy to you. Keep living in denial, it's the only thing you're good at!
mcorivervsaf 4 months ago
@lighthouse500 yeah well since 911 the financial community has taken a beating , before and up to 911 they were going great and getting better every day , so youre brilliant idea is they were going so well they said to the government hay we have too much money can you do something to fuck the works so all this electronic funds will stop taking up room tkx bai , since when have banks wanted to lose money ?
imbetterthanyouis 4 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis money is nothing to these ppl they control the money supply they dont care about banks its all about control and fear, i no where you are coming from, but you are missing the concept of there game, money is worthless its just paper dont forget or even less just numbers on a screen, its the control they hold over the system that they play games with to gain more and more power not just money
lighthouse500 4 months ago
@lighthouse500 wipe out the masses theres nothing to control piss off the masses and they will revolt and you lose control make the masses poor then you have to look after them or else they get the shits and revolt keep the masses happy and you wont need to control them ,,, not my fault the masses are a bunch of dumb cunts
imbetterthanyouis 4 months ago
look everybody edgemanLL2 is winning again! give him a pat on the back, nice one edge, winning at being a moron.
lighthouse500 4 months ago
I know you guys have a pretty solid veil over your eyes, but check out what actual architects and engineers have to say about it on ae911truth's Channel. By the way, I'm not a 'truther' because it's fucking popular, you guys try convincing someone as hard nosed and stubborn as you assholes... No offence... but I'd rather listen to an actual professional on the subject
blackbull420 5 months ago
@blackbull420
"check out what actual architects and engineers have to say about it on ae911truth's Channel."
This doesn't involve playing with cardboard boxes, does it?
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions LOL Check it out dude, some informative stuff on there
blackbull420 5 months ago
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@blackbull420
"me informative stuff on there"
Yeah, and not a whole lot of evidence though.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@blackbull420
Yeah, and not a whole lot of evidence though.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions useless
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 I know, I keep listening to the entire story and finding out that there was no conspiracy. For instance Loose Change said that one fire fighter said that there was only a small fire on the 78th floor and that was the reason why people were jumping out of windows on the 95th-105th floor instead of just walking down the stairs on the other side of the building. But then there was another call from a firefighter who said that there was more fire on the same floor on the other side
rangers94ism 5 months ago in playlist rangers94ism's Favorited Videos
@rangers94ism I know we only have 500 characters to reply, but I can't really say I've been persuaded. Check '9/11 Road to Tyranny'. Give it a listen everything is well documented. It's on youtube, but Google video has it in full.
blackbull420 5 months ago
@blackbull420 I tried to watch it, but the information was so taken out of context and down right wrong that I could only get about half way through it before I got so angry I had to turn it off. Honestly this subject is so depressing that I can't watch the footage anymore. Every time you see those towers fall you are watching people die. So I don't want to argue anymore I just want to say that I did give your view a chance and I can't go along with it
rangers94ism 5 months ago
@rangers94ism "so angryyyy", you didn't lose anyone in the attacks. Americans have killed 72 Iraqis for every American dead on that day, mainly civilians. Most Afghanis don't even know why you're there. you're in denial and a little pussy if you let the oldest war go on with false causes and you're 'too mad' to think about it. look at Loose Change final cut, has the most updated information, try and debunk it please.
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 So your point is that i should not care about the people who died and their families? What a compassionate response. I guess that I should stop grieving over family members that I personally lost because some little boy in Africa died from AIDS. I am from LI and I helped with the Red Cross at ground zero that week. LC final cut. Is this the 'final cut' because they are lying and they had to change their story a few times?
rangers94ism 4 months ago
@rangers94ism I have no idea how you got that idea, empathy is only really strongest when something happens to those close to you (like your family, tragedy in your city). I'm saying vengeance through war (fighting fire with fire) is not the best way to deal with a tragedy. Have you seen 'Sicko'? It's not totally accurate, but the 9/11 responders are not getting adequate care and insurance from the bronchial diseases they've acquired. So, do you have breathing problems?
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 "Have you seen 'Sicko'? It's not totally accurate"
LMGDAOOOOO. And they wonder why no one takes them seriously.....
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 The point was: 'Do you care about 9/11 response vets & the inadequate health care they're receiving." Mike Moore is pretty biased like any pundit, but if you watch 'Sicko' see that the EPA said the air was safe to breath (at G.Z.), although it was quite the contrary.
You gotta start seeing things with a more open mind, the way you guys argue isn't really convincing anyone that isn't already hearing what they want to hear.
LMgiddayO And 'they' wonder why they're douchebags
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 and the counterpont was that only shitheaded MORONS take anything Moore says as even vaguely accurate--much less "not totally accurate."
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 Wow I'd love 2 hear some of your "ever credible" sources. You are in serious denial dude, I'm done arguing with your dumbass. Don't take Moore's word for it, look it up... for once.
The way you argue sounds like a whiny little bitch to me:"only shitheaded morons". Well only a crotchety uneducated jerkoff thinks his opinion is "fact"? Why don't you CHECK some facts or take a class on critical thinking. Good luck with your delusional thoughts,& I know your ego needs the last word.
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 Translation: "Your right Edge. All I can do is whine about you, because your facts are irrefutable,"
Understood.
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 whatever you say, guy. good job.
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 Very persuasuve! No wonder no one takes you idiots seriously. =]
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 Dude, I tried. Your main argument is that no source is credible except your own diluted opinion, if people realize they can't talk logical sense into you, they're whining losers. I've just figured out by now that your MASSIVE ego has a negative correlation to your dick size, which is why you're in denial over a number of issues.
Edge... refers himself in the third person
That's because Edge is a winner
much like everyone in special education is a 'winner'
only you can teach them:)
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 "Your main argument is that no source is credible"
Straw man. That was never said. So Your main "argument" appears to be "Im bitchbull and Im a fuxing idiot. I cant refute Edge. He is way WAY to smart for a moron like me. So Ill just make up stuff he never said, pretend he said it, then reply to that!"
Straw man fail. Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 I didn't have to make anything up, let's see the correlations between your response and my layout of your basic argument:
-You haven't given me 1 source! -I've given you plenty, but somehow they're wrong
- they're whining losers -"Im bitchbull and Im a fuxing idiot'
-MASSIVE ego -"He is way WAY to smart for a moron like me'
-'Edge wins' - still refer to yourself in the 3rd person, therefore small penis
every response is the exact same
Get more logical or get laid,
Edge annoying
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 "I didn't have to make anything up"
Sure, you didnt HAVE to make up a lie and pretend I claimed "no source is credible." But you made up that lie anyway. Because youre too much a pussy to face the truth that I was right.
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 I don't make shit up, I RESEARCH FACTS... notice I slowed it down for your dumb ass whose never heard of referencing shit
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 <--Admitted 911 was an outside job. Ran off like a little bitch.
But Edge pulled the puppets strings, and back my little puppet comes. =]
Of course I read your comments,. YOU said "sure dude you win, I give up."
Surrender accepted. When asked for proof all youve done is whine like the little bitch that you are about me. Whining about me isnt proof, bitch. It just proves youre a bitch who knows she has no proof. =].
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 lmao that was a long one! so proud! why don't you answer the other comments above this one? Your arguments are always so well thought out Edgebabycakes! You must have ACED that critical thinking class.
The absolute irony is striking I must admit... you truly are the puppet master Edgeshlammed kudos, you win again! I'm melllttiiinngg......blurph blurph
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 <--More crying about me.
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
blackbull420 2 months ago
@bitchbull420 <--More crying!
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 you're getting really lazy, are you tiring out?
no one is reading this... lemagiddayoow
blackbull420 2 months ago
@Bitchbull420 <--More crying! Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@blackbull420 he is blinded by his ego, so sad such a weast of a human life, born to be a robot slave lol
im done with him now aswell il let him belive he has won its all he has in life.
lighthouse500 4 months ago 3
@lighthouse500 @bitchbull
I love it when beaten losers have to cry to each other about me. It affirms my exceptional effectiveness!
Edge wins. Even 2 v 1. =]
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 what by using the lowest form of wit? yep you sure are winning lol and everyone can see that fact right..... so il ask again how can you stop are movment it must be your goal to spend everyday of your life on us lol, such a sad life you have edge, this is a fact, if you keep acting liek you do you will turn ppl against you and against what you are saying and that is a FACT of life, so like i said keep it up :D
lighthouse500 4 months ago
@lighthouse500 It's funny, I get email on my phone, while I was at work this guy replies to a youtube post at 1130 am on a fucking Monday (barely) morning.
Let's start thinking of the myriad of explanations to help justify this sad state of affairs.
- Probably Unemployed
- Definitely, no education
- Definitely, no set of priority
- Probably lives alone
- Probably middle aged, or an angry teenager
- Definitely angry
my diagnosis: small penis
He can't get laid, so he's angry, that simple
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 Since youve admitted you are minimally aware of technology that allows people to connect to the internet even over the phone, you clearly cant claim to be too stupid to realize people dont have to be at home to be on the internet. LOLOL. Plus (since in your 40+ years of living in Moms basement you never realized) educated adults (something you ll never be) who have job that dont involve "would you like some fries with that" use comuters are work.
Diagnosis Youre projecting. =]
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 You should probably be WORKING at work, not going on youtube. Secondly, work on your spelling before you decide to call me uneducated. Plus, I just said that I get emails on my phone, I just don't decide to answer them while I'm at work. Jesus your dense, and where's the 'Edge wins', I miss that little conclusive anecdote you always add, gets me every time.
Mister educated, you missed a lot of apostrophes and I believe you meant to say 'comPuters AT work'.
Edge can't spell,
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 you should prolly try getting a job in the first place, before coaching others.
And you should seek professional help for your mental illness. Projection itself isnt that serious. But if left untreated it can become a dibilitaing phobia. =]
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 ... my phobia from the 'truth' right?
Try focusing on the argument instead of trying to discredit the other person all the time, it's a lot more convincing.
If you must know, I just got back from work... plus I was ripping on your spelling since you were calling me uneducated. We argue about mad pointless shit, I have to get some readings done, don't hate me for not responding next time. It's just the world outside seems a lot more appealing. Happy blazing trails.
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 Poor girl. uses ad homs. then whines when the ad homs back fire on her! LOLOL.
Focus on THIS argument, bitch "Show me any shred of evidence--that can be credibly corroborated--where we see govt agents participating in the attacks."
Focus on that. And when youre forced to admit you have nothing, we can then agree how fuxing RETARDED the kook movement is, for peddling bullshit that has NO basis in fact to support it. =]
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 Loose change final cut. Highjackers were trained on US military bases. Air force one the only plane in the air after massive grounding from all commercial airlines. Agents seen picking up debris from the pentagon before any investigation could have taken place. JUST OFF HAND. Way to stay on point, now you just have to look up your facts. I love how you call critical thinkers retarded and kooks, shows you got class, and really adds to your credibility, takes a special kind of person.
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 "Loose change final cut. Highjackers were trained on US military bases."
Despite the isntant chuckle of "I saw it on an internet movie, its gotta be true," at least we now can agree that 911 was a terrorist attack, with real, no shit terrorists hijacking real, no shit airplanes, and then CD issue is exploded as a lie.
Now, what evidence have you, credibly corroborated, that confirms (one example) Mohammed Atta was trained to fly at a US military base.
Ill wait.
Kook
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 forgot about you watch David Ray Griffin Let's get Empirical
It's on Youtube so many questions left unanswered.. explain impossible cell connections thousands of feet in the air
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 So bascally you admit you have no evidence the hijackers were trained by the US. So you change the subject to DRG whining for 40 mins that kookspiritards get mocked in the press.
It gets a ZERO on the persuasive scale.
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 You don't do any research yourself... You're like a brick wall, Check out Loose Change it'll show you what you need to know.
I may be trying to convince you, and it's apparently not working... but you're not even trying to convince me, is it laziness? or is it that you're job is to shoot me down no matter what I say with pathetic ad hominem? You're not even fucking convinced of what you're saying, How do you expect me to believe any of your made up bullshit? Give up Edgebabycakes
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 Translation: "Im a moron who believes "Its on an internet video, so it has to be true" is a valid substitude for actual research!"
Understood.
Sorry bitch-tits. But YOU make the claim. Its up to YOU to prove it.
And unless youre a fuxing MORON just blindly believing interent rumors, you already have it corroborated.
So, its quite simple
A) Show proof
or
B) Admit you lied
Its one of the other. Its mutually exclusive, and ignoring it wont change it. =] Ill wait.
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 OK, so you have no proof and you admit you lied.
Fair enough.
Another successful debunking. Edge wins! =]
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 Do you like referring to yourself in the third person?
It must be lonely only screaming out your name when you have sex,
blackbull420 2 months ago
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@blackbull420 OK, so you have no proof and you admit you lied.
Fair enough.
Another successful debunking. Edge wins! =]
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 that's right you're fucking spam... you have this auto reply botton "edge wins" "edge wins" "you're a moron" "you're with us or the terrorists" edge wins" "edge wins" "douchebag overload"
blackbull420 2 months ago
@blackbull420 Ok, so given the choice between A) show proof, or B) Admit you lied, you had no proof and chose to to admit to lying.
Another successful debunking!
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 lmao, you're so soft man, you're old lady must not be very happy if your arguing is anything like your fucking.
LOOSE CHANGE LOOSE CHANGE WATCH IT! GIVE IT A TRY! TRY LISTENING! TRY DEBUNKING! TRY doing something with your time that doesn't involve being a sap for the establishment... good luck with your life edgebabycakes
You love the police state, you embrace the police state, ignorance is bliss, ignorance is safety, the status quo is a quilt keeping you warm and safe. Sleep now
blackbull420 2 months ago
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@EdgemanLL2 still no proof we are wrong edge? ok cool never mind, oh and oh whats that your beloved goverment are helping Al qaeda in Libya? lol now that place is a warzone wiht tens of thousands dead in the name of liberating the ppl lmao ohhh here comes the banking cartels of the Rothschailds to suck the place dry as usal
lighthouse500 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 You should probably learn to spell, before talking out of your asshole. Can't believe I didn't think of that... you may be pompous, narcissistic, and incredibly misinformed, but you're comments have this arrogant simplicity that just leads me to love making fun of you
blackbull420 2 months ago
@bitchbull420 BTW, remember when you lied and pretending the hijackers were trained by the military?
Thereby admitting 911 was an outside job, and the hijackers were real?
Man, that was pretty funny huh?
Well, maybe not funny to you, since you debunked yourself in ahuge way with that. LMGDAOOOOOOO
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
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lighthouse500 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 look at all the ratings on the vids edge your not convincing anyone more and more belive its all a set up and the goverments are in the bankers pockets, you cant win edge no matter how many times you say you have won lmao
lighthouse500 4 months ago
@lighthouse500 Another series of 3-4 comments, whining about everything else? Just because you have NO facts?
Edge wins!!!
LMGDAOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
Respond to this video... Here is a debunk, no demolition ever had the building burning for about an hour before setting off the explosives. And who set the explosives, and how where they able to put all of those explosives in the correct spots? And why am I trying to prove America's Innocents when we are innocent until proven guilty. This whole conspiracy is so ridiculous that people laugh when I mention that there are people like you who believe this.
rangers94ism 4 months ago
@rangers94ism Well, thermite can be painted on as shown in Jesse Ventura conspiracy theory episode 2, so there's that theory. Then there was the cut nighttime security in the the months leading up to September, so there's the theory that is was painted on, as well as the testimony from people who worked in the basement that there were explosions at the base of the infrastructure.
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420 Well, the actual professionals on the subject pass peer-review, and 99.9999% of them are NOT in the kook movement.
The actual experts to do the examinations and calculations thorough enough to pass per review all reject the 911 moron movement's losers. Even the guy who designed the think admits they collapsed exactly as the yshould have, and there was no stopping it.
Yes, you are wise to accept the ACTUAL experts, and reject the 911 twoofy rejects.
EdgemanLL2 5 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 thanks for pointing me to your sources, a lot of firsts that day right? you're not exactly a physics expert dude. The debris was moved off of all the cites to keep an independent investigation from happening (not that we needed one, right?), and you believe that they didn't find the black boxes... check out Jesse Ventura: conspiracy theory episode 2. He used to do underwater demolition.
blackbull420 4 months ago
@bitchbull420 So, you STILL dont have any actual calculations and examinations (from the kook movement) that were complete enough to pass peer-review?
Understood.
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 So many of your own professors got fired, just for trying to have their students know WHY so many people around the world hate your rogue state. You're blasting me for peer review? Guess what, your history is being rewritten and you are STILL in denial.
blackbull420 2 months ago
stbays you're wasting your time talking to a truther like purepowerpunk. The videos of bin laden admitting his operatives did 9/11 was not faked. The FBI or CIA didn't do the 93 attack on the WTC. Operation Northwoods never happened. And surely if Bush planned 9/11 to go after Iraq, why were the "terroroists" from Saudi Arabia? Oops. Stupid truthers talk utter shit at all times and should be ignored.
terrymanning1 5 months ago
9/11 was clearly an outside job. The evidence is like an avalanche. Fuck idiotic brainwashed truthers.
DarkeyWhite 5 months ago in playlist Liked
@esterpsicore69
What's more interesting is how numbers might not lie, but the people wielding them often do. There's no shortage of people willingfully willing to manipulate the data to come up with all sorts of "coincidences". Are you one of them? Maybe not, but I see a lot of stretches in your statement. Why you'd seperate the numbers the way you did just to add them together is something I can't see a point in doing.
stbays 5 months ago
@EvilStar109 gives the best fucking blowjobs ever! He had me pulling the sheets out of my arse last night, thanks lover.
TerryManningIsGay 5 months ago
is it true that most truthers are actually 13 year old boys that watch way too many preposterous "action adventure movies" with lottsa car chases ,explosions and huge muzzle flashes (ie .rambo,norris ,vin diesle,the rock ,etc ) produced especially for hapless ,lonely adolescent boys who live in households completely devoid actual books,fathers and lives beyond cretinous,FPS video games .?
woodenmajor 5 months ago
Brilliant.
reezlaw 6 months ago
Wait... People actually believe the 9/11 Truthers??? LMAO.
extrovertedthinker 6 months ago
@extrovertedthinker Yes, stupid people! lol
TheNYLibertarian 6 months ago
I actually am a truther, but man this was funny I admit I laughed my ass off!
Italianlad69 6 months ago
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jerseyirish 6 months ago
Some people think and learn stuff. When they do that, they get better and better at recognizing truth or finding it on their own. Some of the comments here discourage thinking and learning, and others encourage it. Try sorting them out by supporters of this video and detractors of it, and then sort them out by encouragement of thinking and learning and discouragement of it. See if you find a correlation.
dscotesegmail 6 months ago
@dscotesegmail
I've noticed over the last 10 years that "Truthers" say the same few lines over and over. They never seem to move beyond the initial information that caused them to ask questions. Normal people on the other hand have continued to provide new information, evolving what they know and moving forward.
Questions are the beginning of truth, but not the end of it.
stbays 5 months ago
@stbays
Perhaps the "same few lines" are repeated because the questions haven't been answered.
What lines are being repeated?
I have seen new information from both sides. i can defend a lot of the "odd behavior" that either side exhibits once someone characterizes it (as you have). But I can't defend anyone who discourages thinking and learning.
dscotesegmail 5 months ago
@dscotesegmail
Off the top of my head, the time it took the buildings to fall, the fact that the inner columns fell after the outer columns, the meaning of "pull it", that the buildings didn't fall into their foot print. Granted, these bits of information don't have to go against a theory that it was an "inside job" but they are facts that I rarely see "truthers" learning.
stbays 5 months ago
@stbays
You mention two measurements (time of fall, meaning of "pull it") and two facts (inner columns fell later, buildings didn't fall into their footprint). They are all "bits of information", but I haven't heard them repeated a lot. I thought you were going to tell us some of the "same few lines" that they say "over and over". I thought perhaps you'd mention bits of unburned thermite or pools of molten steel. I was also curious what questions they ask, that you know about. Thanks!
dscotesegmail 5 months ago
@dscotesegmail
I was trying to present new information rather then the old lines I hear. Such as Building 7, freefall, Larry said Pull It, etc.
The questions they ask are usually just questions they want to answer, not questions they genuinely wish to find the answer to. If you want a list of those questions, well I guess the best place to start is Loose Change, a collection of their questions. Or better, watch "Screw Loose Change" and see some of the answers.
stbays 5 months ago
@stbays
Ok, I found tons of 9/11 questions, and a few answers. I have to disagree with you that "that "Truthers" say the same few lines over and over". The "important" questions nowadays seem to be about why the government and media don't collect and publish more evidence. Anyway, I suppose everyone should explore the issues themselves. Hmm... would that make me a "Truther"?
dscotesegmail 5 months ago
@dscotesegmail
If you spend enough time here watching videos and don't dismiss information simply because of who said it, you'll eventually find a lot of answers have been given.
Any ways, good luck on your search.
stbays 5 months ago
@stbays
Good advice. I'd say reading is more useful than watching videos simply because a mind is more active while reading than while watching, which makes it easier to detect whether you're being encouraged to think and learn, or discouraged from it. Also, you'd want to avoid restricting the number of places you check out.
And really, we all want the truth, right? "Truther" seems to have been given an aura of denigration. To combat that, I'll proudly call myself one. Join me?
dscotesegmail 5 months ago