40 Caliber Smith and Wesson ( The bullet that should have never been)

[japimportssuck]

Guys, you can make a 9x25 dillon cartridge, which is a 10mm necked down to 9mm, and its extremely vicious. .357 sig, is a .40 necked down to 9mm, which is another, terrible terrible devastating round as well. .40 is cheap and does the trick...every day.

[japimportssuck]

.40 makes more power than 9mm, .45 and you can load em hot enough to get into 10mm category...per say.

[MrMotelone]

Was in 10 mm made for FBI or sum like that

[1337wafflezz]

The 10mm sounds like a great cartridge. Anyways, it is only used by really trained professionals(I think) so I don't know why the hell they would complain about recoil.

[japimportssuck]

@1337wafflezz you're wrong... and you can load .40s to be just as powerful as a 10mm...up to 15 yards...you just lose range... but whatever.

[1337wafflezz]

@japimportssuck I'm wrong about the 10mm being a great cartridge? Lol do you have any stats to prove me wrong? I never insulted the 40 S&W, I just think the 10mm is badass(If not a little big)

[japimportssuck]

@1337wafflezz Its not "Anyways, it is only used by really trained professionals(I think)"

I know several regular civilians that shoot the 10mm auto. But you're right, its a bad ass cartridge, and kicks an inconceivable amount of ass...

[BleedingBullets4U]

Boy Howdy! You shit the bed on this one. You got so much wrong on the story of the .40 S&W it is not even funny. Actually the FBI wanted a reduced load 10mm shorting the case was S&W's idea not the FBI. S&W wanted to put the cartridge in a 9mm frame so people with small dainty hands like you can hold it better. and you got a whole lot of other facts wrong also. .40 S&W has been the most popular cartridge to come around since the .357 magnum bar none.

[japimportssuck]

@BleedingBullets4U Thank you....

[TheJohnsoice88]

personally i love my s&w 40 cal, it is a great gun for me, regardless of what you think i think its a great gun

[priestof1]

I think since smith and wesson has a vast working and creating knowladge on the 40, 45, 10 and so on I will stick with them instead of the youtuber knocking on the 40.

[priestof1]

thats funny, seems like the popularity of the 40 has passed even the great 45acp. I have one, love it and yea its a 10mm baby but the follow up rounds are sooooo much faster than the 40,. Furthermore, the goevernemnt wasnt the first to put out the 40. Smith and Wesson was approched by teh FBI along with winchester to create something liek a ten but not as harsh and holds alot of ammo. Glock got wind of it and put their version out first that was recalled due to constant failure. Then S&W did it

[Blk05titan26]

I love My 9mm 21 rounds at will

[VicariousReality7]

Can you use a 40 in a 10 chamber with moon clips

[japimportssuck]

@VicariousReality7 hmm...like revolver status? Not sure.. I know that .40s in the 10mm g20...dont have the right headspacing and usually misfire, but every once in a while they will go off.

[45sandHighFives]

billions of dollars? haha you sound drunk

[mjmoto72]

i have a glock 23 and i love it. but i understand where this guy is going with this.hey look its all about the goooberment trying to sell us more stuff. i personally like the fact that we have the choice but i understand .. good vid.

[WurledPeas]

.40 S&W = 10MM retarded.

[305ssmonte]

The 40 is closer to the 9mm in size,so the size of the gun is close in size.The 10mm grip would be for larger folks.The S&W.40 is a good compromise,and clearly more powerful than the 9mm.

[DobermansRock]

The real answer to the whole debate is the .357 Sig. If Sig had come out with the .357 Sig before S&W came out with the .40. The .40 woud never have gotten off the ground.

This all stems from the FBI shootout in Florida back in the 80's. The truth is the officers were not prepared or even following protocal. In that the FBI ignored officers being out of line and blamed the whole thing on both firepower and capacity. Ughhh..

[AmericanMade72]

Can you shoot a 40 cal bullet in a 10mm gun?

[johnnycmajor]

will they go threw a police vest?

[dsarti1]

@johnnycmajor no

[johnnycmajor]

@dsarti1 Need anti drone bullet. Chuck Norris is on his way to get the Constitution out of O B O M B M A 's ass.

[TheJohnsoice88]

@johnnycmajor why would you ask that lol

[johnnycmajor]

@TheJohnsoice88 Well I think when they get the fema camps going and the NWO is completely in charge I think the evil minions might be wearing them.

It does not matter now I booked in early and got bunk by a window. You bad bro? LOL 

[qhack]

Your argument about reducing powder charge or bullet size can be applied to any round. The 40 S&W is a perfectly good round that can be made higher or lower power just like any other caliber. What the 40 S&W excels at is providing good knock down power for smaller hands like many women have. I get that it is not your favorite round, but don't count it out. It has its value.

[mechanicalbu11]

i agree with your video, i owned a 10 mm, but was too expensive to shoot.

[flwalt]

Many years ago .357 magnum was introduced as a more powerful option to the common 38 special. You want a low recoil load for your 357 use fully compatible 38 special ammo. Of course if the 10mm vs .40 isn't foolish enough you can get the 45 gap just to be incompatible with 45 acp. Florida Highway Patrol adopted that round. Another waste of money.

[bubba55l]

S&W created the 40s&w to achieve the 10mm FBI Load ballistics in a 9mm's OAL. This allowed reusing existing 9mm platforms and allowed a smaller grip, which was a huge selling point since the bureau and quite a few departments were starting to hire more women (smaller hands).

If you want to gripe about the .40, then gripe about the whiny competitive shooters that lobbied to have the IPSC Major class reduced from 175 to 165 allowing .40S&W to compete in the same class as .45acp.

[TheJACKCOLORADO]

It was Smith & Wesson that developed it and the Gooberment bought it. Also .40S&W fits on a 9mm frame and 10mm doesn't

[googlesbitch]

10mm was changed to 40 S&W because a downloaded 10mm would not cycle reliably and a lighter spring would cause excessive recoil and destroy pistol. All pistol calibers use the delayed blow back design to keep weight and bulk down but then restricts the specific weight and energy need to operate reliably.

[RemMan700]

I disagree with you on this one. Go look at ballistics info on the 40 vs the 45 and you will see the 40sw delivers the same if not more ft/lbs of energy then the 45. Also the 40sw ammo is cheaper then .45acp so the gooberment saves money on ammo.

[DSMtsi23]

10mm was downgraded because the female agents and officers could handle the 10mm power and grip size of the pistol. 40s&w is a great round. Plenty of firepower and knockdown power with proper load. Dont let this guy tell you any different.

[Urudrim]

but then the military industrial complex wouldn't have made as much money out of yer hide.

[imbroglio1]

Lots claims here regarding the 10mm most likely by people who have NEVER owned one.

1) The cartridge is the SAME overall length as .45 ACP 1.260" and diameter same as .40 s&w. Claims that it is too long or too big is pure bunk.

2) Recoil in full power 10mm is about the same as .357 mag.

3) Glock 20s were designed to handle 20k+ full power NORMA spec rounds. The guns being "torn up" like the Delta Elite were essentially just rebarreled .45s never intended for such high pressures.

[bud1014]

I have some news for you this is not the first time the government tamed down a round. The 45-70 was tamed down from its original power level and case length. But with different powder levels and belted case came the 450 marlin.

[Mrmodernsurvival]

The .40 SW has proven it's legitimate place in personal defense. I'll go up against a guy with a 10mm any day of the week.

[zulucowboy]

This all goes back to the FBI Miami shootout when agents were outgunned with their 9mm and .38 Specials by Michael Platt and William Mattix. The FBI decided to go with the 10mm after that fiasco, but some of the female agents and the smaller handed male agents couldn't handle the recoil of the 10mm. Thus the need for the .40 S&W. High capacity, decent knockdown power and manageable recoil...the best of all worlds. Here's the video on that 1986 Miami shootout: youtube.com/watch?v=lBGfKtuo2A­M

[Sam68Bass]

I read that the gooberment did use a down-loaded 10mm for a while. But asked themselves, why do we have such a long case with just a little powder"? Then the 40SW was born. I think that what happened was ACTUALLY proper.

[Sam68Bass]

@Sam68Bass And the 40 makes for a smaller gun than the 10.

[michaelofnewbabylon]

@dsarti1 No I completely agree with you on that fact sir, the government is better at burning money than a furnace. Just like looking at the inferior statistics of a the 5.56 in battle compared to the 7.62 yet we have spent how much to keep making new jam-o-matics? (just my opinion on the gun) and for the cost of what a f-22 we could probably re-equip our soliders with a .308 instead of the what 10 or maybe more different possible rounds they have paid to have designed.

[CPLBSS88]

"best" is compleatly subjective to the user...i'll stick with my 9mm.

[MegaWinfrey]

Good stuff

[voyager4520]

The .40SW is what the 9mm should've been.

[dragonballjiujitsu]

A few points:

1. Loaded with the 135gr cor-bon round the .40 is as good a stopper as the .357 mag.

2. If the threat is hiding behind hard cover the officer should be using a slug loaded 12 ga. or carbine. (all patrol officers have access to these)

3. The 10mm is not better than the 40 in every way. The grip on a 10 is much longer and does not fit smaller hands well.

[MrPapapineapple]

@dragonballjiujitsu all you could come up with is 1 real point?

[dragonballjiujitsu]

@MrPapapineapple No, I made 3 real points. The only advantage you would have with a 10mm is for maybe a bear attack up north if you wanted to carry it with some 200gr rds hotly loaded and with no worries about over penetration.

[glennwih]

It came from a Western cartridge I forget which one.

[sawdustjohnpa]

don't own a pistol and never have. the biggest problem i see with every handgun is simple. it has to be registered. register your gun and the govt. knows you have it and where you are. 3 basic guns in my gun cabinet. shotgun, 22 rifle and 30/30. but i guess if you lived in an urban area you might feel the need for a handgun that you could carry in your pocket. no bug out plans so no need for a small gun to take with me. i like where i live and i'll die where i live. good info tho Dave.

[TribTrekker]

Don't be surprised if the new bids for the military to replace the M9 end up with a .40 cal, probably M&P or SIG.

[TribTrekker]

Love my 10mm with full power loads! Carry a jacked up G27 with super Swamp Fox loads that basically equal 10mm med/hot loads (165gr @1300fps.) Nice EDC.

[audiofringe]

the 40 sw is good for short barrels. fast burning powder makes for good velocity out of a three inch barrel. it will go through some thick metal that only a nine milly will leave a little dent in or a 45 acp will leave a dent.

[thebudgetarmory1]

There actually was the 10mm "Lite" before the 40, but the fact that the 40 S&W case was similar in length to the 9mm, it could be chambered in existing 9mm platforms. I really do miss my 10mm pistol, though.

[xle5363]

10mm is the most powerful hand gun you can carry concealed (Glock 29 or 20) due to the fact of the amount of rounds they hold.41mag 0r 44mag to big and the 45acp don't hold enough rounds.10mm best round out there except for the price.

[newbeprepper]

dave my hat is off to you..... you are a complete genius when it comes to attracting trolls and views. love your videos keep em coming

[SurvivalReality]

I personally would not carry a 9MildlyMiserable and the real mans gun a .45 ACP is a bit hard to conceal. Heavens forbid that the GunaPhoebes see your gun. So for me, personally, the .40 S&W is Goldie Locks round for Concealed Cary. We all know the gooberment is going to waste our money anyway.. I would rather have them waste it developing ammo rather than researching the mateing habits of the Shitchell bug.

[craftypoppa]

police carrying 40 caliber around here is one of the biggest reasons i carry a 40 myself

[OneFabFisher]

10mm is an excellent round.

[nellynell77]

Ok, I under stand about the government waisting money .The .40 should have never been but you cant deny that the .40 is one of the best rounds ever made thats why it caught on like wild fire since it came out.

[FlatheadSteve]

OK!!!....If I was a Alaska state trooper I would want a 10mm or bigger for BEARS!!!!

[FlatheadSteve]

Put the .40 fmj vs the 45 fmj witch you mentioned in the begining of the vid......the .40 penetrates farther by far....It is the best fighting cartridge for humans ever made...Just think, you would be one of a million police chiefs to want a 10mm issued gun???.....The numbers speak for themselves Dave.

[StatenIslandPrepper]

Do we all remember the bulging case problem on the 40's. Even Glock had a had time overcoming this problem. I think the 40 will eventually go by the wayside as did the 357 sig.

My favorites 9-45-38/357,,,time proven .

[jeffxl12]

I have a sig 40 but I prefer a revolver than a mag fed pistol any day.

[Halvorson]

there is an advantage to having a shorter overall length. Someone already mentioned grip size, but also the action travel distance. The other problem with downloading it is that you would need a different recoil spring for both types of loading. And you know someone would put a hot 10mm in a pistol with a light recoil spring, shoot it and wreck something. Or in self defense, grab a light loaded round, throw it in a pistol with a heavy recoil spring, and it wouldn't cycle the action.

[daltonsbadboy]

Enjoyed the video

[GaryMule]

Boy oh boy you are going to catch hell of this video dave!

[sharpie443]

I have never been a fan of the .40 S&W. My dad is way into it but I like my 9mm just fine. S&W actually based the .40 of a cartage that is no longer around called the .41 action express. My Jericho 941 is called the 941 because they were chambered in 9mm and .41 action express.

[DocTacDad]

.40 S&W (slow&weak)

[dgr8zod]

Another part of the equation is case fill. In rifle cases, if you don't have at least a 75% fill, or you have an overfill, you are using the wrong powder; you need something slower or faster. IMR-4895 and IMR-3031 as an example, but that's a fairly narrow range. The issue is powders and case loading; short loading slower powders has been known to literally detonate in rifles. I expect handgun cases to follow the same general rule, but with the smaller case, options are sharply limited.

[imbroglio1]

@dgr8zod .45 and 10mm have nearly the same cartridge overall lengths. I have used 5.5gr of w231 in both rounds and neither have detonated. IMO, 10mm with a 180gr bullet and this powder charge is nice practice load.

There is an IMR 800x and 135gr nosler load and will give 1600+ fps. The listed max charge is 14.5gr but I have never been able to get that much powder in the case. I have shot numerous with 13gr and it definitely is compressed load.

[ZombiePowerDrink]

@dsarti1 am your actually really smart the Idea of changing the ballistics by just using a different powder load. Or switching mags thats really smart. I wish they would have done that I would buy a 10mm right now.

[PileFanning]

zombies won't feel the difference between the .40 and the 10mm.

[e1ghtys1x]

They do the same thing with rifles, it's been known since WW2 that 6.5mm is the ideal battle rifle cartridge. The only reason m1 garands are in .30-06 was because there was a lot of .30-06 ball left over from the 1903s and because of the general ignorant bias towards a "big thurty cal bullet". Otherwise the .276 pederson outperforms the .30-06 in every way.

[biggrex]

40 S&W - illegitimate love child of the gooberment

[j2bodydouble]

now for 99% of situations likely getting shot with the 40 is just about as bad as getting shot with a 10MM. IE hit in a vital area with one versus another. I think mechanically the gun is built for the round, in a gun fight one would gladly give up wear and use stronger rounds if ones being used are not working.. LEO's seem to want two things a gun 1 functions without issues and 2 not to be semi gunsmiths to keep the first one true. The rounds sizes are basically identical so I get the point.

[CyberDruidtheModGod]

Real Americans don't shoot metric ammo you commie.

[TheRantinghick]

@CyberDruidtheModGod metric ammo? wtf are you talking about

[CyberDruidtheModGod]

@TheRantinghick Oh I'm sorry I guess you don't know WHAT THE FUCK millimeter means. lol

[TheRantinghick]

@CyberDruidtheModGod I do actually (i was a machinist for 5years) if 9mm bothers you call it the .356 and piss off. i just wanna know how it being measured in metric has anything to do with weather or not you shoot it, thats the most idiotic thing i've ever heard of.

[CyberDruidtheModGod]

@TheRantinghick Yep. Completely idiotic. Like ranting against .40S&W

[fredusmc0311]

The only question when it comes to calibers is what can you hit the 10 ring with. If I could hit a dime at 50 yards with a 22 that's what id carry.

[louisianaprepper]

I don't understand all this gun and ammo talk, but I know one thing....I love my Smith & Wesson 40 caliber. Gosh - I think I bought it around 1994 so it may be a little late to complain. Keep up the great discussions - I enjoy your videos. Mrs. LP

[olzt100]

This is getting humorous. I listened about four times to your point from approx. :2:00 to 2:16. The government is the one that puts up bids and usually with specifications. My question is, why didn't S & W just do you like you said? They are the ammunition experts, not the government. Now my next question is, if there is a good amount of money to be made with the 10MM, why are manufacturers avoiding that money?

[weaponeer]

@olzt100 - It's very costly to come up with a new caliber, and it's never a sure thing. there is a long list of calibers that never made it, including the 41AE, so there needs to be a good reason to risk the capital. in the case of the 40SW, it was requested by a number of gun mfr's, but mainly winchester and as a result S&W designed the new 40 caliber. the 10mm will never be as popular as the 40 S&W, so there is little reason to build pistol's specifically for that chambering.

[olzt100]

@weaponeer I agree. The government provides a good market for the weapons manufacturers. It makes sense for the weapons manufacturers to expand the same product in the market that is being widely bought buy the government. It reduces their risk of loss. I see dsarti1's point on power, but on a daily basis, the average LEO and citizen only need enough power to drop the target with one or two rounds. With government's ability to fuel sales and create a market, standardizing a more powerful ammo..

[olzt100]

@weaponeer ... would not have been in the best interest of all. LEO's wants to do damage to the target and not what's 20 ft behind the target. The 10MM round would have special uses like the Black Talons do, but is not suitable for most ordinary LEO encounters. If the 10MM was the standard LEO ammo, then not only would that be what most people fired with, it would be what most people would be fired upon with. The collateral damage impact with the 10MM is greater.

[weaponeer]

@olzt100 - I'm on the side of the 40 S&W. personally I prefer the 40S&W for it's balance of velocity and the choice of higher bullet weight. if all Leo were carrying 10mm I would be concerned about hitting unintended targets due to the flatter shooting 10mm, as well as shooting high on the double tap due to the heavier recoil.

[Mrmodernsurvival]

@weaponeer Great points.

[j2bodydouble]

wow thats a lot of cntroversy, this vid has points and govt spending well?

LEO's and CWP's find the shorter and weaker easier to shoot. course thats true of about any gun recoiil issues it seems? The Govt found training and actual qaulifing went better with the weaker round, is this ideal? Not from a tactical shoot stand point, but people of all different sizes and hand strengths were being hired and many otherwise good LEO's would not qaulify without the weaker round. This is compromise yes.

[DigitalHaze65536]

I wish the .45 Super would have taken off, that's a real round :)

[tzychess]

I agree, and the more I got into guns and came to this same conclusion, the more disappointed I was that 10mm ammo was so expensive. The 10mm guns seem a little overpriced, and now the intelligent people are punished for wanting to use 10mm ammo that should have been abundantly cheap and popular as the standard law enforcement round! Oh well. As a result I still don’t own a 10mm, but want one.

[RCvolunteer1978]

I AGREE but I still do not own any guns and Will not ever have more then $30 to spend on anything per month Because of family members totally believing that being a perpper /a survivalist is being insane there fore i am not allowed by family to own any guns or knifes

but have been check out by law enforcement to be totally legal to purchase any thing I want

[sonofodin14]

A good video about ballistics. I do not (nor will I ever) own a .40 caliber handgun. That being said, Good video Dsarti (as usual). I say; Why have a .40 when you can have any number of things that are much better? Proper training with any platform and any round is crucial.

[RealRickyRoss]

EVERYTHING the government touches, turns to complete BULLSHIT! Not one government agency has been ran efficiently or effectively. They ruin everything that they are involved in...

[TRADERnel]

good history lessen

[lpdavisakgto]

.40 is a perfect balance between the 2 by far one of the best defensive handgun round ever period

[dsarti1]

@lpdavisakgto the 10mm is the same round you deaf Bureaucrat loving goober

[libertechnet]

@dsarti1 Amen!

[urbansurvivor101]

@dsarti1 the .40 is not the 10mm round. Its a cut down version like you said in the video. Being a LEO I carry a .40 all the time and I can carry Winchester T Series and have done a few tests with it so far. Yes you can shoot through car doors and through car windows just fine. The 9mm can do the same but not as effective, The 10mm is a fun round just not for LE. This is why the gov made the .40, a balance from 9mm and 10mm. This is what makes America great we all have are OWN opinion

[weaponeer]

@dsarti1 - The problem with the 10mm of the time is it was tearing up pistols right and left, so the 40S&W was designed with a smaller case capacity (3mm shorter) resulting in the 40S&W as having significantly less recoil and muzzle blast than the 10mm, and due to less stress on the frame all the manufacturers felt safe to build 40S&W models knowing the pistols were less likely to suffer damage or premature wear, which can damage a companies reputation. (a downloaded 10mm was dangerous)

[dsarti1]

@weaponeer I had a 10mm when they first came out (colt delta) and it was not tearing up pistols (I read gun mags regurly)  did you listen too what you typed 10 X25 vs 1x22 ??? there both 10 mm.... 38 and 357 are the same bullet the case and podwer charge are different.... you can place a 38 charge in a 357 cartrage and have identical ballistics... Please do your research

[weaponeer]

@dsarti1 - The Bren ten pistols were getting torn up, but there are some questions as to if it was due to quality control issues with the Bren Ten. Even some of the Colt Delta Elite Pistols suffered from slide rail stress cracks especially if it was shot frequently. I don't read gun mags, I have been talking direct with manufactures for the last decade, mainly due to the weaponeer website. By the way the 10mm can easily exceed the pressure levels of the .357 Magnum.. get your facts straight

[weaponeer]

@weaponeer - Continued - The other leading factor in the design of the 40 S&W was the grip size. the 10mm due to it's longer length was uncomfortable for users with small hands. The 40S&W due to the shorter round, had a slightly smaller grip, as well as significantly less recoil, which also allows it to have a faster followup shot as compared to the 10mm. adding less powder to the 10mm does not allow you to build a more compact pistol, and the double recoil spring than causes FTF.

[dsarti1]

@weaponeer Ok what ever but you can download a 10mm safer than you can upload a 40s&w

[weaponeer]

@dsarti1 - the problem is the recoil spring. a downloaded 10mm would use a single spring like a 40 S&W, but if you were to forget and load the hot 10mm, the pistol would be damaged (and potentially the shooter). with the 40 S&W it's not an issue. plus reloaders would be always pushing the limits of the design which could result in litigation due to damage to the pistol or shooter, once again damaging the reputation of the company. plus the 10mm still is too long for many shooters

[rb2112002]

@weaponeer The point is that once you shorten the case, you limit capacity. A 10mm case can hold a reduced charge, or a full charge making it more versatile. The only advantage to the .40 is a slightly shorter grip frame. The biggest selling point of the .40 is the paper specs. More energy than a 9, more mag capacity than a .45 ACP. I have not seen one reliable report that says it is any better than a 9 in terms of stopping power. Its a nice compromise, but not necessary.

[weaponeer]

@rb2112002 - the problem is, you cannot build a pistol for the shorter case specs, it must be built to handle the stresses of the max charge of the 10mm, making the 10mm just too heavy to carry most days (I carry a 1911 daily and the weight sucks). as stated if you underload the 0mm you need to use one recoil spring, if you shoot normal 10mm you need to use double recoil springs. forget, and shoot your 10mm with standard rounds with the single recoil spring, and you just damaged your pistol.

[rb2112002]

@weaponeer cont..The average bad guy is going to run at the first sign of resistance, especially a gun..cowards They dont want a fight, they want a victim. Part of the problem was the lack of available guns for the 10. I know the Colt Delta Elite could not handle the 10 and I think it was a bad idea to even try. I guess most people couldn't see carrying a 10 with the lower power rounds, so they just downsized everything. Then there is the .357 sig, but thats a different post..

[weaponeer]

@rb2112002 - there is a reason 9mm are high cap pistols.. spend a week reviewing all the police shooting reports, to not only read how many rounds were fired, but how many times the suspect was hit, yet survived. the most that I remember is one guy getting shot 23 times with a 9mm AND SURVIVED. I know of no incendents with the 40 or 45 that someone survived a quarter of that. it was after reading all those reports and military AAR's that changed my mind on what I choose to carry most days.

[rb2112002]

@weaponeer I have read the reports. As with all statistics, it is very difficult to interpret what you read. I am not saying that the .40 is not a good round, I am saying that in the world of handguns, the difference in performance between the 9, .40 and .45 is negligible. My main carry is a .45, but I also carry one of two different 9s, depending on how Im dressed.

[weaponeer]

@dsarti1 - and NO... they are not the same! The 10mm is 10x25mm and the 40 S&W is 10x22mm. calling them the same is like calling the 38 special (9×29.5mmR) and the 357 magnum (9x33mmR) the same, when there is a 3.5mm difference between rounds. with the 10mm and 40 S&W difference between rounds being 3mm. .5mm can make a big difference in pistol and frame design. and it would be unwise to shoot a magnum round in a pistol not designed to handle the added pressures.

[michaelofnewbabylon]

@dsarti1 a 2 3/4 is no different than a 3 1/2 in a shotgun then by that rationale? is it the .380 that is just cut down 9mm? I forget and am not looking it up for arguing sake, 10mm is great but its a bit overkill for home defense and way overkill for police officers. I personally think if our elected leaders stopped trying to play emperor and gave citizens back some rights cops wouldn't need anything more than a taser or stun gun and thats all they should have anyways since they suck.

[dsarti1]

@michaelofnewbabylon oh my goodness never mind if ya cand see the logic of saving hundreds of millions of tax money by adapting a existing cartrige you should go ahead and vote for newt gingrige too there is no hope I give up LOL

[dreis454]

@lpdavisakgto Spoken by someone who has no idea what he is talking about.

[Mrmodernsurvival]

@lpdavisakgto You got it right, dude!

[marinecorpsniper]

i like your name for the government the gooberment

[LaneMaddox00]

glock 20 in 10mm dont know the compact tho

[dsarti1]

@MrSouthernSurvival a level IIIA vest will stop a 10mm with a hot load 

[Bleys1973]

Man, I love my .40. I heard that they had trouble with the 10mm cycling, and a little to powerful for some agents as you said. I think it's perfect for a between of the .45 ACP and 9mm. A little more penetration than the .45, and a little more punch than the 9mm., or so the ballistics dictated when I was doing research for purchasing my Walther P99. Love your channel man!

[neffofrog]

I deer hunt with a Colt Delta Elite 10 MM. It drops them like my 12 gauge. A great caliber.

[scodurh]

I agree sir