1 Seduction of Real Christianity by the Pagan Roman Catholic Church

[grady1610]

I only had to take my son to church once to demostrate to him why he should never go to any church. I think satan has his hold on all mainstream churches. .... I told him to stay away and read the bible for himself.

[ainanor]

I dont even believe those so called evangelists even were true christians before! I think they were only playing a role of a sheep. I also believe according to the freemason pyramid one can see at what stage one can meet the pope the queen and so onnn...

[pokemonlover2011]

Someone please explain why Catholics are Pagans? They still worship Jesus as the Lord and Savior and the are the oldest form of organized Christianity so wheres the paganism?

[opsvideo2008]

Thank you for posting this video. I used to but now will no longer read anything by the exposed "protestant" leaders who have welcomed catholicism as a christian faith...Billy Graham, Robert Schuller, Benny Hinn, TBN, Pat Robertson etc...

[spa05akw]

@abukamoon

Stupid Catholic HERETICS! REPENT your IDOLATRY!

[spa05akw]

@abukamoon

SHUT UP! AND EAT UP BACK YOUR OWN SHITY VOMIT! I hate idolatry and its Followers. DO NOT LIE!

[zzzzzzzz0zzzzzzzz]

Amen

[spa05akw]

I am close to Protestantism, and I HATE papacy and the Vatican.

Fuck the Pope and its Satanic church!

[main226]

@Ephesians61024 that is exactly right i glad someone understands catholicism or however u spell it is the false religion and it says whoever takes away or adds 2 the word will not see the kingdom

May God Bless

[lambsev]

Catholics err in two great doctrines: 1) that one must be a member of the church of Rome to be saved, and 2) that the authority of the church is equal to that of the Bible. Just my humble (?) opinion.

[andriy7sheva]

@lambsev Just a quick question. What comes first: the Church or the Bible? Historically, Christ created the Church, and the Church put together the Bible 4 centuries later to be used by the Church for teaching, liturgy, and all the other purposes of evangelization.

[lambsev]

@andriy7sheva If you read the Bible you will dicsover some of the answer to your question. Much of the Bible was oral history handed down by memory. Moses is believed to be the scribe of the Pentateuch, and a host of almost 40 other men penned out the rest. But I must tell you that we as Christians believe and receive the Bible as inspired by God. It is in this unique among all books.

[andriy7sheva]

@lambsev God inspired the Church in chosing what books would be in the Christian Bible. That's why, for example, many other scriptures used in Judaism, are not used by Christian churches. Of course the Bible is unique among all books, and also among all writings in christianity. But without the guidance of the Church, it becomes a book open to thousands of interpretations. You cannot have Church without Bible, and Bible without Church.

[lambsev]

@andriy7sheva Several things: One, the Lord Jesus was very clear that the Holy Ghost would be sent from Father and Himself to be our teacher. Two, the Holy Spirit is the One who inspired the Bible's scribes. Therefore the Holy Ghost is much more suited to reveal the Bible to us than we are to each other. Three, the church consists of everyone in her, from apostle to deacon to the back row of pews. No one is or should think of themselves as unable to be taught by God the Holy Ghost.

[lambsev]

@andriy7sheva Any church leader or bible teacher should advise his congregants and students that what they or any man may say or teach is subject to correction and amplification by the Holy Ghost.

John 14:16-18, 25,26 ; John 15:26-27 ; John 16:7-15 ; 2 Timothy 3:16-17 ; Deuteronomy 13:1-4 ; Matthew 24:22-24

[lambsev]

@andriy7sheva  Without the guidance of the Holy Ghost the church will be misled by her own misinterpertations.

[andriy7sheva]

@lambsev And because no one is or should think of themselves as unable to be taught by God the Holy Ghost that we have so many different christian denominations all so different in their teachings. Come on, anybody here thinks that is inspired by the Holy Spirit. We see people going on and on coz they say they are inspired. And teaching sometimes are just wrong, totally wrong. I can wake up tomorrow and say I am inspired by God, and find some fools following me right away.

[lambsev]

@andriy7sheva Who is it that is responsible for bad doctrine? Men and satan. Not the Holy Ghost. Just because men and devils promote error does not mean I must learn from them. Personally I have never heard a 100% flawless sermon, but that speaks to my humanity as well as the speakers. I take it all back to God in prayer and meditation TRUSTING HIM to make the corrections needed. Because men err I am constrained by Christ and the Holy Ghost to seek Them first and last. They are the Word.

[jonathanmoreno1000]

christians are suckers big time.and they want you to go to church so you can be brainwashed too.!

[moonchild289]

You're a blithering idiot. You make no sense, and as a catholic I can say that you know nothing about Holy Mother Church,

[jonathanmoreno1000]

@moonchild289 its satanic.why all the gay boy priest rapes?something wicked and from the pits control rome and all christianity.christians are not real and most are suckers!

[imakewarwiththebeast]

"Pope" means "father".

(Matthew 23:9) And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

The unholy "father pope" is a true biblical bastard to God because he will not receive chastisement (correction). See: (Hebrews 12:7-9).

The pope promotes condom sales for male prostitutes and is an abomination to God to burn in the lake of fire.

[daffydoug]

@imakewarwiththebeast Amen!

[carpenter0909]

The Prostitue is the false church of the new covenant. The Old covenant was filfuled by the Lord in daniel chapter nine , Zech 11, many other places, The Staves were broken , and the Gospel goes to the Gentiles, until the number of the gentiles is fulfilled. Act like brothers , stop your judgment and hate of one another over vain disputes or you will be judged with those you judge.

The Jews will cry outand their eyes will be opened, you are Isreal,, of Abraham, you are grafted into the branch

[carpenter0909]

The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and

leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire

Revelation 17:12 "The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast

[carpenter0909]

The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and

leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire

Revelation 17:12 "The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast

[hockeyrulesus]

Wow! Very promising news! Hopefully they come back to Christ's Church.

[zobcity01]

Thx for standing in the gap to defend the simple truth. The masses have been handed over to a reprobate mind and await their judgement. I wondered why when trying to speak to most about Yeshua, was like talking to a demon possed marble statue. Then I was shown, You are. So, unless the Holy Spirit leads us to minister to anyone, you're going to be confronted by their spirit of Antichrist daffy duck mind and Dr. Suess ligic about principles. It's like touching "hot bubblegum" , a mess to deal with

[loudmouthspeaker]

@stinger once you start pulling of the covers of the catholic - the more you find .. its a clever disception... like the supposed visitations of mary and her supposed teachings...

yikes, mary cant save you nor is she a door to jesus... who dreams these things up

[Stinger4186]

@loud:

Ur assembly isnt even The Church though. Explain how you think you're The CHURCH! Do you think that the apostles, Paul, Timothy, Titus, Barnabus, Linus, Clement etc all had a Bible back then? You obviously do not know that the Church began BEFORE the NT was ever written, not AFTER. Did you know that all of the hagiographers (writers) of the NT were all BISHOPS of the Church except for Luke? Do you know that Mark the gospel writer was the BIshop of Alexandria? Where's that in the BIble?

[Stinger4186]

the pope is a Bishop & successor to Peter. 1Tim3; 1Pet2:25; Tit1:7; Heb13:17; 1Tim5:17; 1Pet5:1-5; Matt 16:17-19; 18:17-18; 1Tim3:15; 2Thes2:15; 2Cor10:8; Tit2:15

[Stinger4186]

loud: that's absurd. The pope is a BISHOP & the successor to the apostle Peter. He holds The Keys of authority from Christ. Not you, not me, & not ur preacher. No one but Peter's successor. I haven't "changed" scripture at all; I'm just amazed at how little fundies actually "know" the scriptures. Also, you mite wanna be more concerned with George Soros & his desire for a "one world govt'".. He thinks he's God !!

[loudmouthspeaker]

@Stinger4186 was peter called the vicar or called the sweet jesus in earth, did peter have the power to control the affairs of countrys ie dispose of kings ect.... its a falicy to think that the position of pope has come to become the leader of the world... the church has corupted any authority it used to claim to poses..

pope the sweet jesus on earth... wow now whos pulling whos strings

[Stinger4186]

correction: per my last post, it's Matt23:31-37.. Also, the "whore" of Revelation is Jerusalem, not The Church! In add'n, many people do not know that Jerusalem sits on 7 hills! Mount Goath, Mount Gared, Mount Zion, Mount Acra, Mount Bezetha, Mount Moriah & Mount Ophel.. You fundies listen to preachers who think they're erudite. Ur getting the wrong exegesis !

[Ephesians61024]

@Stinger4186 You have to take into account all the descriptions of the Whore of babylon and what her actions will be. Rome has Seven Hills. It also fornicates with all the false religions. It has changed the times of God. It has changed his 10 commandments. It is trying to bring all the world pagan religions into unity with itself. Jerusalem does not fit all these descriptions but the Pagan Roman catholic Church does. Sincerely Ex-Pagan RC Catholic member

[Stinger4186]

@Ephesians61024:

Ignorance must be bliss for you, but you can't fix stupidity. U dont know any better. Also, I seriously doubt that you were ever a Catholic. I put very little credence into posts stating "Im an ex-Catholic" etc

U never answered my question: What "written" gospel did Paul & the apostles "preach"? Hmm? Paul says he preaches NO gospel given by any MAN, i.e. Matthew, Mk, Lk, or Jn. (Gal1:11-12)  What's this called? What's 2Thes2:15? 1Cor11:2? What's Gal1:9? 1Cor11:23, 15:3?

[Stinger4186]

@Eph:

The whore of babylon is Jerusalem. It's only in HALF of the Old Testament. Oh yeah, I forgot, you fundamentalists dont actually KNOW the Bible. It's takes a Catholic to slam dunk you all day long on PROPER EXEGESIS OF THE BIBLE. You simpletons dont even know what exegesis and hermeneutics of the Bible are do you? You only give private interpretations like this simpleton Texe Marrs on the video. Does this clown know that all the writers of the NT except Luke were all BISHOPS OF THE CHURCH?

[filoIII]

@Stinger4186 A catholic giving "PROPER EXEGESIS OF THE BIBLE."  HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!! Purgatory and the Immaculate Conception of Mary ought to tell one the catholic religion is pagan as all get out.

[hockeyrulesus]

1) We didn't change the commandments, we number them differently then Protestants. Did you know Protestants number them differently then Jews?

2) Just because you're an Ex-Catholic, doesn't mean you understand it's teachings, and that goes for those Ex-Priests and Nuns in your other videos. The reason you're all Ex-Catholic is because of poor teaching. If you'd like to understand something ask me, and I'll be happy to explain it.

[loudmouthspeaker]

@Stinger4186 Now i have heard everything... the roman catholic church sites on the seven hills you must be blind.... read your own church history ....

[Stinger4186]

@loudmouthspeaker:

The SEVEN hills of Jerusalem: Mount Gared, Mount Goath, Mount Ophel, Mount Moriah, Mount Bezetha, Mount Acra, and Mount Zion..

Look, Rome was indeed a "babylon". BUT, that has nothing to do with "The Church". Rome was a "babylon" way before Christ came into the world b/c of the PAGAN Roman Empire. Back then, people used the term "babylon" loosely regarding any cesspool place similar to how we use the word "ghetto" to describe a seedy place or area. Rev is re: Jerusalem

[loudmouthspeaker]

@Stinger4186 wow its amazing how people can change scriptures...jeruslem is not babylon, that is totally rediculious.... reverlations state that there will be a one world government which will use a one world religions all religions will come under one religious man...

who will that be? the pope is setting himself up in this position

[loudmouthspeaker]

@Stinger4186 So whats changed - now the Roman catholic church under the popes leadership wants to join all religions under his control....now isnt that interesting.... the pope wants to get friendly with budism and many other false belief systems...

Just like the bible states a one world religion...cant escape that can ya

[Stinger4186]

@loudmouthspeaker:

U people are simpletons.. The pope is a Bishop & the successor to Peter. Hey, start with Exodus 28 and keep going thru the OT from there. Everything from scarlet to gold, purple, jewels, idols, the "woman", chariots, wood, incense, whoredoms, fornications, etc that u find regarding Jerusalem.. Read Ez16, anmely 16:15

That's okay. The world's a stage. Ignorance is bliss for many fundies, and for many of em though, you cant fix "stupid". That's pretty much stuck

[Stinger4186]

loud:

BTW, Vatican City is across the Tiber and is on the Collis Vaticanus. The Collis Vaticanus is not one of the 7 hills of Rome. Furthermore, Rev has absolutely NOTHING to do with Christ's holy apostolic Church which He began at the price of His blood & comes to us since the apostles

What does Jesus say in Matt23:31-37? Lk 11:43-52? --> The blood of the saints are the prophets killed by the jews. The "martyrs" are JTB, the holy Innocents & Christians all killed by Herod ---> Jerusalem!

[loudmouthspeaker]

@Stinger4186 You should really check your facts again - they let you down.... lots..

[Stinger4186]

@loudmout:

Ignorance is bliss for you, but you cant fix "stupid"..

U dont know any better. U never answered my question. Who is Linus of 2Tim4:21? Who is Clement of Phil4:3?

[loudmouthspeaker]

@Stinger4186 Well, you cant fix stupid nor can you fix the numerious false teaching in the catholic church ie mass, purgatory, rosary, pennance, indulgances. are these the false man made tradtions you were talking about before...

the idea that jesus is present in the eucharist... now thats a really good one isnt it.... now im stupid... mmm?

[Stinger4186]

@loud:

U cant fix your preaacher Maynerd's private interpretations. Jesus said: "He hwo hears YOU hears Me. He who rejects yoou rejects Me"

See, though, this is the Authority of The Church! Is your name Ricky-Bobby? Is your preacher "Maynerd". Do you all handle snakes and tambourines? You dont even follow the Bible though! Paul even states that Jesus is present in the bread & wine. The term Eucharist doesnt need to be "written" to be valid (2Thes2:15). Not all Jesus did got written.

[Stinger4186]

@loud: or should I call you Ricky-Bobby? It matters not one iota if none of those terms arent in the Bible. Not all that Jesus did got written. Have you read the last verse of John? Guess what, Ricky? Mark the evangelist was the Bishop of Alexandria. Where's that in the Bible? He was martyred by being dragged to death while being pulled by horses thru the streets of Alexandria. Where's that written? Where are the martyrdoms of Paul in 64AD & Peter in 67AD, einstein? Oops, i mean "Ricky-Bobby"

[loudmouthspeaker]

@Stinger4186 One forgets that the catholic religion will no doubt become apart of the one world religion that is mentioned in the end times... what other religion wants to take control and rule... oh thats right the pope does... how can he kiss a koran or promote the idea that all faiths lead to the one God of the bible......

there are many more clues then you think

[opsvideo2008]

@Stinger4186 You have conveniently forget that Revelation 17:6 describes the harlot (whore) who sits on the scarlet beast of seven heads and ten horns as " the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and wih the blood of the matyrs of Jesus. " Tell me who was responsible for the torture and murder of millions of believers of Jesus over the centuries during the Inquisition if it as not the roman catholic church? You can never ever hide the truth of the bible which is the word of God.

[pokemonlover2011]

@opsvideo2008 The Inquisition was religious persecution of the Jews. Many of the martyrs in Christianity were Catholics killed and tortured by The Roman Empire before it made Catholicism its official religion. Throughout history Protestants have also had a history of persecution of the Catholic church as well as persecution of other world religions. It is not any one faith, denomination, religion, or group of people that is above this sad fact.

[opsvideo2008]

@pokemonlover2011 Obviously you didn't do a proper research of what roman catholic inquisition is all about & got your erroneous version from your roman catholic church, which you now share with others. Your erroneous version is just another cover-up effort of history by your catholic church, which is no different from their cover-up of worldwide paedophile priests in the catholic church. You are one of the many unfortunate "believers" who are not intelligent enough to ask the right questions.

[Stinger4186]

lastly, to you poor simpletons who think Mary is "worshiped", Mary herself wouldnt tolerate being "worshipped". She is "honored" for being the mother of Christ certainly, and that no one else in the history of the world will have that honor to be chosen by God to be Christ's mother. There are soooo many stupid people in this world. I wouldnt be bad-mouthing Christ's mother; you'll answer to Him.

Furthermore, u people arent even "The Church" of The Bible. Jesus began ONE Church, not 60K denom's

[DasRakel]

Like Christianity, Islam is divided, practically all muslims are against killing just as much as I am. No hate, please. The bible has been used for that too (crusades, Ireland).

The Mary cultus is indeed a bit fishy. So are many dogma's like papal infallibility.

Finally, bible literalism is NOT the way to go, it's written by people. It deviates even more when translated from greek and even more when you let the wrong people (like Texe Marrs) interpret it for you. (sola scriptura vs. magisterum

[DasRakel]

i think we can agree that the pope is an authority and that God supports it trough the bible.

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. (Romans 13:1)

[ssleidl]

You take one scripture out of context as Hitler did (Rom 13:1 was his favorite scripture) and how many people are going to be judged by not standing up against Hitler and remained silent. and He will do away with the Roman Church (who murdered millions) as He did with other tyrannical empires ie: Babylon, Greek, Roman, etc. Read about the Church of Rome in Revelation 17, 18 and 19. Do yourself a favor and read the Bible as a whole, lest you be led astray. Peace.

[DasRakel]

Reductio ad Hitlerum, but okay, single verses mean little without context.

Ah, the whore of babylon, I suppose then you also know know that not everyone agrees it stands for the catholic church.

Rejoice over her, O heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you. (Rev18:20)

Since there are no apostels after the first century, Babylon refers to either ancient pagan rome, or another city alltogether, like Jerusalem.

[courag1]

@DasRakel Pope John-Paul kissed the Koran, that wicked book used to kill not only Evangelical Christians, but also Catholics.

Mary is exalted above Christ as the mediatrix of all Graces. This is not Biblical, only Jesus is the mediator, he is the sole mediator between God and man. Read 1 Timothy 2:5!

[Stinger4186]

@courag1:

What u write is a bunch of BUNK. The pope kissed the koran as an expression of love toward other people who are still God's children and extend the love of Christ to them. Also, Mary is NEVER heralded as "above" Christ. The "assembly" you belong to isnt even THE CHURCH of the BIble! The Cath Church "compiled" the Bible, hoss

Jesus said to John, "Son behold your MOTHER, mother behold your son"

"all generations shall call me blessed"

"I will send them the Morning Star" Jesus Rev2:28

[Stinger4186]

(cont'd)

I think it's hilarious how fundies OUTSIDE the Church try  to tell The Church, the Body of Christ that compiled, i.e "decided" upon the books of the Bible as guided by the Holy Sp, just how to interpret the Bible.

The problem with fundies is theyre like pharisees & "judge" every1. Plus, they dont even "follow" the Bible. If they did, they be IN The Church. They ignore many many parts of scripture, and, they give "private" interp's of the Bible which is forbidden. 2Pet1:20, 3:16

[courag1]

@Stinger4186 Even if as you say that due to what Jesus told John on the cross, we are to consider Mary "our mother", it still does not command worship, considering someone "blessed" does not command worship. If the Bible wanted people to pray to Mary, it would clearly SAY IT. It doesn't.

You don't know what Pope John-Paul said, because he put those who follow Islam on a level playing field, which is to say, all are equal to Catholics in God's eyes, all except two groups, Jews and Evangelicals.

[Stinger4186]

@courage:

But, what "YOU" call "worship" is not Catholics "worshipping" Mary! She is HONORED, not WORSHIPPED. There indeed is a difference. I may honor someone in the military who puts themselves in harms way. I may honor the police & firemen who serve the community. This doesnt mean I "worship" them! See? This is what you get in assemblies OUTSIDE The Church! A load of crap. Also, you have no authority. Your "preacher" holds no authority. Authority rests IN "The Church", not outside

[Stinger4186]

(contd)

The pope, courage1, is a BISHOP & successor to Peter. He is the 265th successor to the apostle Peter in unbroken succession. He alone holds The Keys. No, not you, not your pastor, not my pastor & not I.. Only the presiding Bishop of the only "CHURCH" there is. Your assembly is not "The Church" of the Bible, although you "think" it is, & NO, The Church does NOT mean "all Christian believers" in any assembly like simpletons are taught, though well-intentioned. This is false & not biblical

[Stinger4186]

courag1:

The Bible is not The Authority insofar as it's NO ONE'S authority to pick up the Bible & think ur the "final word" on biblical exegesis. That authority rests with The Church. It was the Church in the 1st place that compiled the BIble. Do u know that there were more than 4 gospels? Didja know that there were more than the epistles that are IN The Bible? Didja know that in TWO of Peter's non-biblical epistles that he referred to THE CHURCH as "KATHOLIKOS"? The UNIVERSAL BODY of Jesus

[Stinger4186]

courgag1:

The CHURCH came BEFORE the NT, not AFTER! Also, IF the last epistle was written in 59 AD and the 1st "written" gospel was begun in 61 AD, then HOW could the apostles, Paul, Barnabus, Titus etc "preach" the gospel? What's this called? Do u KNOW? Paul even said he had no "written" gospel. -Gal1:11-12; 2Cor3:3. This is called "Sacred Tradition" (no, not "human" tradition like charlatan preachers think it is). Sacred Trad'n is the "spoken word". 1Cor11:2, 11:23, 15:3; 2Thes2:15; Jn14:26

[Stinger4186]

some clarification to my other mesg.. I meant to write that that there were many many MORE epistles written than just the epistles contained in scripture. The Church, after years of prayer to the Holy Spirit as to which book were indeed truly inspired, COMPILED The Bible, i.e. "chose" the books that were to be contained therein. No, it wasnt a bunch of baptists nor methodists toting bibles back then like daft simpletons like to "think". The CHURCH was est'd by Christ. The 1st Bible was in 419AD

[Stinger4186]

@ssleidl:

The CHURCH didnt murder millions like simpletons like to think! This is far from the truth.. SHOW ME YOUR PROOF OF THIS. No, dont go by what some biased preacher (who has no authority anyways, btw..) You people think that The Church murdered all of these people when there wasnt even that number of people in Europe living back then!! LOL. Also, ever read about the murder of Catholics under Henry VIII, Cromwell, Wycliffe, Calvin etc? SHOW the proof of your info! It's FALSE

[Stinger4186]

sseidl:

Also, my simple friend, the WHORE of Revealtion is in Ezek 16. Read that Chapter. In fact it SPELLS OUT who the whore is in Ezek 16:15... Read the whole book of Ezek. In fact, 1/3 of the OT is in regard to God's displeasure of Jerusalem since it was a cesspool of wickedness.. Ever read Jesus' words in Matt31-37? How about Luke11:47-52? Didja know that the "scarlet beast" is Herod? Herod was an Edomite. "Edom" means scarlet. I thought you fundies actually "knew" the Bible. Obviously not

[ssleidl]

@Stinger4186 It's a concern that you are disputing how many the Catholics call "heretics" who were murdered for their simple faith in Jesus. Anyone who follows a church who kills one person should question it's legitimacy let alone a church who tortured, imprisoned or sexually abuses. Pope Pius XII supported Hitler; they rose up the Jesuit order to deceive the reformers. Many historical records support these claims. See Peter de Rosa-Vicars of Christ and Will Durant to start. Peace

[hawkeye125646]

@ssleidl Ummm.... Just to let you know.... If you ever talk to any Jew, today, and asked them about Pope Pius XII, they would say he was the greatest humanitarian for them. I can show you documents, from Jewish Rabbi's, people and officials, around the world, showing how he tried to help Jews.

[ssleidl]

@hawkeye125646 Perhaps these Jews are unaware that after the war under the direction of Pope Pius XII and vatican officials such as Monsignor Giovanni Montini (later Pope Paul VI) facilitated the escape of tens of thousands of Nazi war criminals to the west via "ratlines" and fake passports. A good book for reference is 'The 4th Reich' by investigative reporter Jim Mars. In addition, this Pope Pius also had close connections with fascist dictator Mussolini-see Lateran Treaty

[hawkeye125646]

@ssleidl Would you like me to give a report of Pope Pius XII accounts from such reports as the New York Times, Manchester Guardian, BBC broadcasts, London Times and quote other documenteries, here, or in your inbox? Because History has indicated, through documents and archives dating as early as 1921 to 1999 that Pope Pius XII was a great pope. Now, I want you to know that I respect your thoughts, because you have investigated. I commend you for that. I do not agree with them, though.

[ssleidl]

@hawkeye125646 You can defend Pople Pius XII, but you miss my entire issue. Through careful study and being a witness to (being in Rome and a former member of the Catholic faith) I will not promote her teachings that are so contrary to the Bible's teachings.  I recently watched a good documentary film I would recommend anyone to watch : 'A Lamp in the Dark' the untold history of the Bible. Thank you for a respectful dialogue. Peace

[hawkeye125646]

@ssleidl I know exactly what you are talking about. What I am saying, is that you have seen a perspective issue. I have seen it too, and I've also seen more information on it. . The thing about hind sight, is that it is 20/20. Meaning that we can judge people as much as we want. It is written in the bible, that we are all sinners. What I am saying is to show all the information I have obtained.That is why I ask people about the early church fathers, There were no schisms at that time.

[Stinger4186]

@ssleidl:

I seriously doubt you were ever a Catholic. There's no other "CHURCH", and NO, the "assembly" you belong to isnt "The Church" which Jesus began. You simpletons "think" you are, but this is a "private interpretation"! The apostles were ordained as the 1st BISHOPS of the Church. You poor simpletons dont know the timelines of the written codices! YOU SIMPLETONS "THINK" THE APOSTLES & PAUL HAD A WRITTEN BIBLE! THEY DIDNT! IT WASNT OUT YET! IN FACT, IT WOULDNT BE COMPILED UNTIL 400 AD!!

[DasRakel]

Freemasons are believers, the lodge requires it, sometimes it's catholicism, sometimes it's whatever sect you're from. The Knights of Malta have both protestant and catholic devisions.

[DasRakel]

Because the previous pope was less of a biggot then you are doesn't mean he's less of a Christian, nor that all catholics are. If the great falling away refers to the christian sects, it more likely clearly refers to protestants, because it is Luther and Calvin who altered their belief away from the true Christanity that are roman catholicism or orthodox Christians.

[Stinger4186]

07: "Come out of her my people" is in Isa52 regarding Jerusalem.. Rev has nothing to do w/ the Church. Even "if" Rev had anything to do w/Rome, it would be the pagan Roman Empire, NOT "The Church". You, like many many others, don't know any better. Also, Jesus hasn't deigned YOU, nor any "assembly" outside The Church to be His Authority. Only The Church is! 2Cor10:8; Mt16:17-19

[Stinger4186]

correction: Christ DID not begin His Church in the 1500s. (it's hard to type on my cellfone) Who is Linus in 2Tim4:21, MrG? Who is Clement in Phil4:3?

[Stinger4186]

MrG: I want to "explore" it further? There's nothing to "explore".. There's only ONE Church. Ur assembly is not The Church our Lord began. You "think" it is. Christ sis not begin His Church in the 1500. There's nothing to "debate". It IS what it "IS". Period

[MrGrafted]

Stinger4186~

You have much to say! I'm fairly busy and still am. But I can see you wan't to explore this on a deep level. Ok Stinger4186 - We will debate this through for the sake of truth and growth. Bless you. I'll contact you when i can so that we may continue.

[Stinger4186]

MrG:

There were HERESIES that developed even at the time of the apostles & Paul. In 1Cor & 1Thes, Paul warns of other "preachings" out there, and in 2Thes, he said be "obedient" to what 'WE' tell you.." ..Why is this? Because they have AUTHORITY from God to be the "FINAL WORD" on matter of faith & morals!!

--> The BIBLE wasn't even out yet! The Church has been given all authority and GUIDES even on scriptural exegesis! Not just some "assembly" invented after the year 1521! Do u see yet?

[Stinger4186]

MrG:

Didja KNOW that the POPE is a BISHOP and the successor to the apostle Peter? Didja KNOW that? Didja ALSO know that a Cardinal is a BISHOP too? Didja KNOW that tese names dont "need" to be in the Bible in order to be valid because JESUS already GAVE His Church "authority"..?? (2Cor10:8; Mt16:17-19, 18:17-18; Col1:18, 23-24; 1Tim3:15

Do u know what Paul means in 1Thes1:5? "..the gospel came to you in WORD ONLY.." What's this mean MrG? Ur the "scholar" here.. What's 2Thes2:15? Really?

[Stinger4186]

MrG... What does 1Tim3 say about the "office of BISHOP"? What does 1Tim5:17 say "know that the elders (BISHOPS) that RULE well are worthy of double honor"?

Tit1:7.. "A BISHOP is God's representative"

"You've RETURNED to the shepherd & BISHOP of your souls" 1Pt2:25

"..younger, SUBMIT yourselves to the elder (Bishop)..) 1Pt5:1-5

"Be obedient to them that RULE for they watch you souls & must give an account" Heb13:17

"Priesthood" -Hebrews; 1Pt2:5,9

Ever read Jn21:15:17; Mt16:17-19? --> Pope

[Stinger4186]

correction:

John21:15-17, not 15:17... I was typing too fast. My apologies

[Stinger4186]

MrGrafted: It's evident that you have "ignored" some scripture.. Jesus says very clearly in Jn3:5: "Unless a man is BORN AGAIN of WATER and the spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God"

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations BAPTIZING them in the name of the Father, Son & Holy Sp.." Matt28:19

"Repent and be BAPTIZED every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ.." Acts 2:38

"For all you who have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ" -Gal3:27

Do u KNOW the Bible, Mr G?

[Stinger4186]

MrGrafted,

Uh, Mary isnt "worshipped". She would not even tolerate being "worshipped". Worship is reserved for God alone. As God gave Mary the "honor" & blessing to house His only Son, she is "honored" for this. You have to see something: Your "assembly" is NOT The Church Jesus began. You belong to an "offshoot" assembly that SEPARATED from The Church. Your assembly has an "inventor" at some point after the year 1521 based on private interp's of the bible, which is FORBIDDEN. 2Pet1:20, 3:16

[Stinger4186]

I'm amazed at how pathetically STUPID fundamentalists are.. You poor simpletons dont have an understanding of the Bible and early Christianity. The BIBLE did not come about until 419AD. The gospel the apostles & Paul preached was not even WRITTEN; it was delivered by divine revelation. Paul even says it in Gal 1:11-12; 2Cor3:3. What's this called? This is called "Sacred Tradition", or the spoken word. 2Thes2:15, 3:6; Jn14:26. The Bible couldnt have been written w/o Sacred Tradition

[Stinger4186]

(cont'd)

The pope is a BISHOP & successor to Peter.. Jesus said to His apostles: "He who hears YOU hears ME..it was not you who chose Me but I chose you and I 'ordained' you'"

"The office of Bishop" 1Tim3

"A Bishop is God's representative" Tit1:7

"Know brethren that elders (bishops) that RULE well are worthy of double honor" 1Tim5:17

"Be obedient to them that RULE for they watch your souls & must give an account" Heb13:17

"You've returned to the shepherd & Bishop of ur souls" 1Pt2:25

[Stinger4186]

(cont'd)

ANY dogma given by The Church, FIRST comes from God. Not everything is "in" the Bible. The Church already IS Christ's mystical Body on earth, and He speaks THRU it. Again, "He who hears YOU, hears ME. He who rejects you rejects Me" (Jesus).. This is for all time. Jesus gave Peter the Keys. Keys are authority. Paul too was a Bishop along with the apostles. Paul spoke of their authority in 2Cor10:8. There MUST be an authority or else heresies develop. There's ONLY ONE Church, not 55,000

[MrGrafted]

@Stinger4186 You clearly need to be born again, you do not have a leg to stand on my friend. I'm not going to hang around here with someone who has not been born again as Jesus calls us to be (in sprirt). You can't defend something thats so corrupted spiritually. Your justifications are easy to brea with truth. Your not a Christian if you haven't been born again through the sprirt not just water! Get saved and know the love of God.

[Stinger4186]

@MrG:

You claim I dont have a leg to stand on when the "assembly" you belong to isnt even "The Church".. How do you figure that? MrG, the Bible didnt even come out until 419 AD! Why do so many simpletons think that the apostles & Paul preached from a "compiled" Bible? The last epistle was written in 59 AD, & the 1st GOSPEL was written in 61AD! How could he preach the written gospel if it wasnt out yet??!! Paul even says the gospel he preaches isnt "written". It's in Gal 1:11-12; 2Cor3:3.

[Stinger4186]

(contd).. do you see yet? Jesus est'd HIS CHURCH, His Body to be the authority on all matters of faith, morals, & exegesis of the scriptures. It's ALL in the Bible. You have to see that all the apostles & Paul were BISHOPS in The Church. Sure, you can have an opinion & disagree. Guess what? it doesnt matter! The assembly you belong to, though well intentioned, isnt "THE CHURCH", & you dont even FOLLOW The Bible! You think you do, or, should I state: it's a "little better" to ignore some parts?

[jasonkozdra]

This is a result of denominationalism. Denominationalism in any form is man-centered, man created religion. These manmade 'churches' have hidden from you the truths of scripture. Mankind has hidden for centuries the open secret of Christianity: Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16, Acts 22:16, John 3:5, I Peter 3:21. Read them. John 12:48.

[jasonkozdra]

People don't like to hear that their beliefs actually have no foundation at all.

[Badwolf182]

Video No 2 has disappeared....:(

[MrGrafted]

Throughout all of this, however, there remained individual groups of true Christians, such as the Waldensens and the Anabaptists who would not conform to the Roman system/Santanic system.

[MrGrafted]

This ungodly system eventually ushered in the darkest period of history known to man, properly known as the "Dark Ages" (500-1500 A.D.). Through popes, bishops, and priests, Satan ruled Europe, and Biblical Christianity became illegal.

[MrGrafted]

The Roman Emperor Constantine established himself as the head of the church around 313 A.D., which made this new "Christianity" the official religion of the Roman Empire. The first actual Pope in Rome was probably Leo I (440-461 A.D.), although some claim that Gregory I was the first (590-604 A.D.).

[Stinger4186]

MrG:

All Constantine did was give Christians more freedoms by his Edict of Milan. Wikipedia Constantine. Never is it mentioned that he "found" the Catholic Church. Also, no, LOL. Leo was not the 1st "pope".. Peter was the 1st pope, but the actual term "pope" didnt come about until the 3rd centuryt. The term mass didnt until the 5th. Doesnt matter! "What YOU bind on earth is BOUND in heaven" -Jesus

The term "Katholikos" was 1st coined by Peter in 2 of his non-biblical epistles. (Who's Linus?)

[southwoodside]

Texe Marrs is a good, honest Christian exposing Babylon the Great. God bless him.

[ufoimtc]

@southwoodside Praise Jesus Christ!

[stackpole2004]

Freemasons run America!

[MrGrafted]

@stackpole2004 Not just the U.S, most of the world. All of the western world.

[ChristianTULIP]

The Roman Papal Dynasty is without a doubt the fulfillment of the prophesised Anti-Christ. Please read J.A Wylie's work "The Pope is the AntiChrist, a Demonstration". Those Protestant churches that commit spiritual fornication with the Anti-Christ will suffer the same fate. We need a return to the true, orthodox, Protestant Reformed faith that adheres to sound doctrine and rejects Romanism! See my page. I will not be replying to questions here - email me.

[218alb]

@ lockinglugnut once you say amen your prayers go to amun ra the sun god

[lockinglugnut]

many roman Catholics follow many Scriptural traditions and believe in GOD/CHRIST/And Holy Spirit....do not judge....and thanks be to GOD....we are Christians too!!!!PLGB

and the apostles' creed does not *separate* church (holy catholic and apostolic church, catholic being the greek term for *universal*, not necessarily some denomination), PLGB

[07braves]

@lockinglugnut ...i agree with you in an aspect...there are true born again christians within the RCC, but you must come out of her...God warns all born again people to come away from the whore and her teachings... within the harlot churches as well. any church that adheres to the whores teachings are under her mark.

[lockinglugnut]

@07braves many of their traditions are Biblical if you read the catechism....please don't 'down' on fellow Christians/Catholicism as the 'whore' and the 'false prophet' and 'babylon'....we're on the same 'track' as you guys with firm belief in Christ and Scriptural root....PLGB^.^t....Catholicis­m seems very misunderstood, please do your research and pray....and do not 'judge' (ref. mt. 7) and remember 'those who are not against us are for us' Said Christ (ref. mk 9:40, lk 9:50, thanks google and

[07braves]

@lockinglugnut ...im sorry if i offended you...i truly did not mean to...as you said, there are christians within the catholic church...but again the LORD tells people to come out of her, please look at some of the things within the catholicism..the obelisk within st.peters square, the dagon mitre worn by the bishops etc..the rosary beads are ALL pagan in origin..why does the RCC not change it vestments when it knows clearly that REV. says the whore wears scarlot and purple?...

[lockinglugnut]

@07braves revelation, whether symbolic or otherwise, does not mean to say everyone who wears purple is [clearly] this evil thing....

as far as the i think it was a 1john2 ref. either you or someone else similarly made earlier, it says the antichrist comes from 'within the church', yes, but is somebody/thing that *leaves* the church/abandons the faith....Christianity has been around quite some time and originated in Catholicism (albeit not strictly 'roman' so to speak, haha), so that wouldn't

[07braves]

@lockinglugnut no..im sorry the true christians were burned by the RCC as were BIBLES...when has JESUS ever said to kill anyone, yet there is that church that killed people for disagreeing with their doctrines, the crusades, the inquisitions...no matter what is said..the RCC did do this and history proves it, even non protestants know this. and pope john paul tried to make amends with the world saying that some of its laity have made mistakes..yet the papacy is the ones who did the sins

[lockinglugnut]

make sense either. remember what Christ says about 'a kingdom divided [in on] itself cannot stand' (naB, thanks google, usccb, etc., and thanks be to GOD)....create no divisions among Christians or others believing in GOD and Salvation good sir

as far as the rosary goes, the prayers are Scripturally based, the beads maybe not, but that could go with Christmas, etc. celebrations and traditions and timing as well, PLGB, which are ok....hey we'd[well our ancestors in Christ] showed the

[lockinglugnut]

pagan-folk 'hey, look what you're *really* to celebrate, what Truly happened....you know how to see and believe, now show it unto the LORD GOD' basically....

and, as one of my 'favorite'ish quotes on the judo forum once said ''heathen' egyptians invented paper'....i doubt we'd all like to be carrying around our Bibles on stone tablets (who knows who 'invented' writing on those first either).....God BLESS, there's a reason we have all these good things, from where/whomever they come

[lockinglugnut]

they're all from God....again it comes down to what paul says in 1thess5 (google, naB/usccb, etc. again and thanks be to GOD yet again indeed) 'test everything....retain what is good', and that's what we do....there's many things that come from other cultures, etc. (foods, arts, martial arts/sports, etc.) that aren't against God or The Bible, God-Willing/Bless, because He Made all and everything, and us in his own image, we've all 'got a piece' of it, PLGB

[07braves]

@lockinglugnut yes..GOD has given us all things to enjoy...but he didnt mean bringing pagan rituals into Christianity..this is abomination to GOD....remember the "queen of heaven" in the old testament...GOD hated that, and yet the RCC likes to call mary that...your church is antagonizing/mocking GOD in that aspect, it is mocking GOD in changing the sabbath, and the mass is an abomination..CHRIST atonement was done once and for all at the moment on the cross...not repeated in the mass for sins.

[lockinglugnut]

as far as 'obelisks' go, them and similar features are many places, they're not supposed to be idols these days and they're not >.<t....please i beseech you, 'brother' in Christ, instead of dwelling on these worries ('sufficient for a day are the troubles of it's own', Says Christ in mt 6 (thanks be to GOD)) and starting debacles among Christians....let us practice charity and carry out Christ's Example And God's Work (as in mt 10, 20, 25, etc.), because *that's* what we should do, and *that's*

[07braves]

@lockinglugnut ...i am not trying to offend you...i am sorry..i ask you to come out of her as GOD has said..there is so much scripture that points to the whore and the anti-christ system...i could never show you all that is in the BIBLE here on youtube, the postings would be to consuming.

[MrGrafted]

@lockinglugnut Do Not use Gods perfect word to justify the Satanic Roman Catholic Church! Warning! Get out of her..

The Papacy and Priesthood (I Pet. 2:5). (Heb. 3:1; 4:14-15; 5:5; 8:1; 9:11), (Heb. 10:10-11,Matthew 23:9, (I Tim. 2:5).I Peter 5:3 (Mat. 8:14; I Cor. 9:5). (I Pet. 1:1).

The Worship of Mary (Lk. 1:47), Luke 2:24,Matthew 1:25,(Mt. 13:55; Gal, 1:19; Psa. 69:8). (I Tim. 2:5). (Acts 1:14).

Get out of the Roman Catholic Church, No this is NOT Christian.

[Stinger4186]

@MrGrafted:

Again, u dont know any better. The reason that The Church is in Rome is b/c Peter ultimately WENT to Rome to oversee The Church. This doesnt "have" to be in the Bible. Jesus' life from 13 to 27 isnt in there. The martyrdoms of the apostles arent in there. Peter & Paul's martydom under Nero isnt in there. Anyway, Peter oversaw the Church from Jerusalem, Corinth, 7 yrs in Antioch, then Rome. Find these for me in the Bible. You wont. Ur assembly isnt even "The Church" of the Bible!!

[Stinger4186]

PS, MrGrafted, WHO is Linus in 2Tim4:21? Only his name is mentioned but WHO is he? Who is Clement in Phil4:3? Tell me, "scholar"..

What does Jesus mean when He says "He who hears YOU hears ME... and "Peter I give YOU the Keys to the Kingdom. What YOU bind on earth is bound in heaven" Matt16:17-19

What does Jesus mean in Matt18:17-18, "He who does NOT hear THE CHURCH let him be as a heathen & publican"..?

What WRITTEN gospel did Paul & apost's preach if the gospels werent out yet? Tell me

[lockinglugnut]

more important than this silliness and nonsense....so enough of it....please.....'judge not [by appearances]',etc. as Christ says in mt. 7 (thanks be to GOD) these are not evils here, and the LORD is not telling people to come out of a branch of His Own Church/Christianity....God-Wil­ling And Bless!!!!Praise The LORD, All Christianity Together, and bring others/all God Willing And Bless, Forgive, Etc., Unto His Salvation in reverence, PLGB, Glory Always Be Indeed, Alleluia, Amen!!!!

[lockinglugnut]

and do not worry about 'offending' me, it's about GOD, traditions in reverence to Him, and unity and truly doing His Work and revealing His Majesty in all we do and all our Callings, every one and thing here and in Heaven, PLGB

for me, it's in research, school, church, judo, service, lectoring, family, friends, and strangers/events....where's it at for all of you????PLGB, Glory Be Always Unto The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY KING AMEN

[MrGrafted]

@lockinglugnut Purgatory - The Mass - Image Worship - Salvation by Works and so on! By perverting the word of God ad more! This so called church is Demonic!

[lockinglugnut]

usccb naB, etc., and thanks be to GOD), Catholicism, God-Willing/Bless/Forgive/Inde­ed, in general i would hope has the 'seal', not the 'mark', as it were, thanks be to GOD....in fellowship in God/Christ/Holy Spirit, prayers and blessings, and praises and thanks be to GOD, PLGB

[lockinglugnut]

many roman Catholics follow many Scriptural traditions and believe in GOD/CHRIST/And Holy Spirit....do not judge....and thanks be to GOD....we are Christians too!!!!PLGB

[ogiaag5m]

Or could it be that these men of God are just trying to unite under the banner of the Apostles creed which was given to seperate the church from the cults.

There is biblical error in most denominations not just the catholic church and whilst i do not agree with the doctrine of the RC i have met spirit filled believers in that denomination as i have in others too.

Our real enemy is looking to destroy the body of Christ.

We should put aside secondary issues and love one another in him

[lidiasasha2]

Excellent exposure of all thes prostitutes of the Gospel of God!! May God bless you Texe! Glory to God! Thank you for posting!

[BrotherAlphonsusMary]

This question I never get a straight answer on: If faith alone is Biblical, then why can't the devil be saved? he has faith alone, he believes in God even though he hates Him. I am only asking rhetorically because I know that the answer is that faith alone is unbiblical. I love all protestant brothers and sisters and pray that the lapsed Catholics will come back to the church Jesus founded. There can be only one true church. Jesus prayed that we all be one, let us all be one as He desired. Amen!

[123pussypop]

fake ass non-christians is frauds

[victoriabenn]

How old is this? Benedict is the Pope and has been for a few years now?

[elucidative]

That Schuller guy could pass for an alien to me, and Pat Robertson is some freak, I would believe he was a cryptic Jew.

[KJVBaptistGuy]

@elucidative I don't like what TBN and that bunch do but I got saved watching his 700 club show.