Reggada World Music - Chlouh Amazigh Berber Rif Maroc Music 2010

[kacemOujda]

Rifain75 ماذا اقول لك يا بني؟

احلم وابق تحلم الى يوم يبعثون. اظنك لم تقرأ كل تعليقاتي على هذا الموضوع او ربما لم تفهمها لانها بالانجليزي. ولا يسعني الا ان اقول لك ولامثالك من مرضى القلوب المتشددين الذين لا يقبلون الاخر ويتشدقون بالديموقراطية اقول لهم موتوا في غيظكم والاولى لكم ان تتصالحوا مع انفسكم هو اقرب الى التقوى

[kacemOujda]

@vriend1 I gave to zizouzenati more details about the gays composing the group but unfortunately he is still refusing to accept the reality. He said that all Moroccans are Amazighs. So from today I’m AMAZIGH hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Alf mabroook to me and to you too vriend1 hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

My wife is enjoyed because she is Tamazight hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[kacemOujda]

@zizouzenati

3 AMAZIGHS & 8 ARABS: is more enough to answer you, in addition to what vriend1 said is the truth of the history and believe me that I don’t have much time to spend in writing and replying. It is your business to accept or to reject the reality.

[Rifain75]

Danse des guerriers Rifains

[Rifain75]

DANSE MAROCAINE donc DANSE 100% AMAZIGH

0% arabe, les arabes sont a 6000km de nous.

Welcome in TAGELDIT N AMRRUK !!! Official name Amazigh

[vriend1]

the first Moroccan dynasty initiated by ethnic Arabs since the Idrisids, the country would consolidate power and fight off Portuguese and Ottoman invaders, as in the battle of Ksar el Kebir. The reign of Ahmad al-Mansur brought new wealth and prestige to the Sultanate, and a massive invasion of the Songhay Empire was initiated.

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 How can you say idrissid was Arab dynastie since Moulay Idires wa a REFUGEE form damascus. He was made as the Imam by th Berbers themselves. Idris fled the Middle after a massaacre on his family. Idrisid dynasty was Amazigh(Berber) their first leader Moulay Idries was an Arab. You can not say the Americans are kenyans because Obama has keniyan roots. Without the Berbers Idris would never ever been existed in the history. And Abssids wanted his head badly. Think before posting something

[vriend1]

The Saadi dynasty of Morocco (Arabic: سعديون) (in English also Saadite or Saadian, original name Bani Zaydan), began with the reign of Sultan Mohammed ash-Sheikh in 1554, when he vanquished the last Wattasids at the Battle of Tadla.

From 1509 to 1554 they had ruled only in the south of Morocco, officialized by the 1527 Treaty of Tadla. The Saadian rule ended in 1659 with the end of the reign of Sultan Ahmad el Abbas.

[vriend1]

no arabs in north africa?

learn your history .

arabs were even in SPAIN.

[vriend1]

According to tradition, the Umayyad family (also known as the Banu Abd-Shams) and Muhammad both descended from a common ancestor, Abd Manaf ibn Qusai and they are originally from the city of Mecca. Muhammad descended from Abd Manāf via his son Hashim, while the Umayyads descended from Abd Manaf via a different son,

[vriend1]

fter the Umayyads were overthrown by the Abbasid Caliphate, they fled across North Africa to Al-Andalus, where they established the Caliphate of Córdoba, which lasted until 1031.

[AitSaid0492]

Da's zo mooi als ze samen tegelijkertjd dansen!

echt mooi!

[kacemOujda]

@Rifain75 Hi my friend, may you please read the 3 comments I have already writen to your friend MrNiksim, to know more better where is this music from???

[Rifain75]

THIS IS RIF MUSIC not chleuh

RIYAFA = IMDIAZANE/AARFA

CHLEUH = AHIDOUS

[Rifain75]

sahiiit wallah haja mliiha

vive Nador Mliliya Taza Berkane Hoceima Guercif Taourit !!!!!

shab lekfat !!!! Wah Wah !!!

[kacemOujda]

Vivent les Arabes === Vivent les Amazighs

[kacemOujda]

@MrNiksim more details

03 AMAZIGHS :

-Med Mansori & his son Abdelkader are berbers from debdou + Ahmed Darwich is Zekraoui that's it.

08 ARABS as follows:

-The team leader Mohamed (My brother's son) + Mamouni Al3id + Hasan Lagram (bandir player) are "Ouled Sidi Ali"

-BenAbou Taher (Ghayta player) Matahri from Ain bni mathar

-Issa Hamdi (bandir player) + Said are bni ya3la

-Abdelkader Hamdach + Sofian are Mhaya

More than 80% of them are Arabs then based on what you say 100%Amazigh

[kacemOujda]

@MrNiksim See please, I'm from Oujda as you know I think so and I know this Group one by one, name by name, zanga by zanga hhhh. I know even what they do in the life all of them. They are all my neighbors. The gay who is talking his name is Al3id he is my cousin, the team leader who is the youngest one, wearing a different shoes color "yellow ones" this boy is MY BROTHER'S SON, he is student, and he is the best of them that's why he is the team leader.

[zizouzenati]

@kacemOujda Oujda is build by the Amazigh dynasty of the Meriniden, oujda is an Amazigh name wich means DESERT. Do you have some knowledge of your own City Oujda or not. Today all oujdien are Arabised Imazighen, no one speaks tamazight anymore besides the Riffians which have moved too oujda. There are no Arabs in oujda or in whole of Morocco. In Morocco we have Imazighen and Arabised Imazighen.

[vriend1]

@zizouzenati

that is not true

the old historian ibn Galdoun has noted Arab immigration to the northern of Africa.

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 No itc was not an immigration, it where three tribes one of them was the Banu hillal this tribes where senddby the Fatimids to punish thei Berber Zirids in Algeria. But this this tribes where also destroyid by the Almohads Berber dynastie and they where very very little minority of maximum of 300.000 Arabs among ten o MILLIONS of Imazighen. I have readed mugaddimah ibn Khaldun 100 times. This tribes where completly absorbed by the Imazighen in North Africa. Arabs in Morocco is 0%.

[vriend1]

@zizouzenati

What about:

Banu Sulaym

Banu Hassan.

Banu Hilal

these Arab tribes came to north africa and established an arab linguistic superiority and decimiced the berber population.

But let us keep the peace and say that north africans have arab, berber and even old Farao blood in their veins.

We all are all human first...

Wa alaykoum assalaam.

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 Haha, I said Three tribes and one of them was Ban Hillal, Total of 300.000 Arabs, They never had any power in the Maghrab. They where mercenaries of the Fatimid dynastie. Tell me ONE of ruling dynastie of them. Are you telling us that thos bedouins could be able to attack and conqeur the big Almohad dynastie haha? The Almohads who where fighting whole of Europe crusaders in Andalucia? No there are no Arabs in North Africa. thereis also no GENETIC evidence of Arabs.

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 The Turkish Ottoams have conqeured and colonised the Arabs for more the 600 years do you see any Arab call himself a Turk haha. All The berber Dynasties useed Arabic language do you think that soem lost Arab bedouin mercenaries where the ones who are responsible for that. Are you telling me that the Arabs are responsible of the fact that the Turks used alos the Arabic language?

[vriend1]

@zizouzenati Without getting all hystericall or in a conquest who is an Arab and who not let me answer a few of your questions:

Tell me ONE of ruling dynastie of them:

Answer: The Umayyad Caliphate

Are you telling us that thos bedouins could be able to attack and conqeur the big Almohad dynastie haha?

Answer: yes they did, they crushed the berber majority as described by ibn khaldun who has called them a plague to the north african berber tribes.

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 There also 4 Million of Maghrabians in France, dou think that they could be able to change the French hahah.

How the hell could three Arab tribescould ever decline more MILLION of Imazighen. In that tiem Maghreb hadmore population then whole of th Middle east you fool. Today only egypt has mo0repeople then the whole of the Middle east.

Andwhat do you mean with Faroa blood???hahaha A farao is njot a nation is a TITLE of a ruler from ancient Egypt/ Who the hell has educated you???

[vriend1]

@zizouzenati

So now you do agree that there was an arab dynasti in el maghrib al aqsa?

It is good to read that you have come back from a previous statement.

do not call me a fool stay polite or I will end our discussion.

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 Your kind of poeple are raised with lies and absolutely the most stupid science fiction fairy tales.

The Maghreb has three great dynasties which are The Almorabitoun, the Almohads and The Merinids. There was no Arab dynastie in the Maghreb. Only ONE which was the Umayyads but they were completly destroyid in two major battles. One in 740 which is called the Battle of the Nobles and the other one in 741 which is called the Battle of Bagdoura Go learn some true history instead of LIES.

[vriend1]

The Umayyad Caliphate (Arabic: بنو أمية‎, trans. Banu Umayyah; "Sons of Umayyah") was the second of the four major Arab caliphates established after the death of Muhammad. It was ruled by the Umayyad dynasty, whose name derives from Umayya ibn Abd Shams, the great-grandfather of the first Umayyad caliph. Although the Umayyad family originally came from the city of Mecca, their capital was Damascus. At its greatest extent, it covered more than five million square miles (13,000,000 km2)

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 And the facts which I have wrote are supported by ALL genetic reseacrches done in Maghreb. 90% of the Maghrebians are aboriginal North African Imazighen. The ottomans had colonised Moern Algeria, Tunis, Libya and Egypt much and m,uch longer then teh Arabs id. Why is there not ONE North African call himself a Turk? Why is there no Middle eastern call himself a Turk? Why is their no Algerian call himself a France men. Stop bullshitting yourself with that Arab crap stories.

[vriend1]

@zizouzenati The most famous ARAB sultan of the Saadi was Ahmad al-Mansur (1578–1603), builder of the El Badi Palace in Marrakech and contemporary of Elizabeth I. One of their most important achievements was defeating the Portuguese at the Battle of Ksar El Kebir and defending the country against the Ottomans. Before they conquered Marrakech, they had Taroudant as their capital city.

[vriend1]

@zizouzenati haha based on lies??

now you are creating your own historical facts!

about genes:

A study by the University of Chicago found that Arab populations, including Palestinians, Jordanians, Syrians, Iraqis, and Bedouin, have at least some sub-Saharan African genes. Non-Arabs from the region, including Turks, Kurds, Armenians, Azeris, Georgians, and Jews did not have any African roots. [1] A possible explanation is the proximity of the Arabian peninsula to the Black African nations.

[vriend1]

Both historically and genetically, it is almost definite that the Arab population intermarried with locals, including Palestinians, upon their conquest.

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 The only true Arabs in whole of Africa where the Umayaads and th Abassids, this two Arab dybastiies ahve conqeured and ruled North Africa. Thistwo dynasties ere not some unkown bedouin mercenaries like the Banu Sulaym, Banu Hassan and . Banu Hilal. The Umayad rule began in from 660/80 and it ended in 740 when the Berbers began a revolt agianst the Umayyad rule. Two mjor batlle where faught between the Arabs and The berbers. One in 740 which was the batlle of the Nobles. The berbers won

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 And in 741 the Arab umayyads where exterminated in regions which we know today as Morocco and Algeria. The batlle was afollow up of the batlle of the nobles. This battle began in 741 and was called the Battle of Bagdoura. From that moment MOROCCO has never ever been ruled by a others besides the Berbers until the French in 20th century.

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 Tunis, Linya ad Egypt was not freed by the Berbers becuase of the Abssids until the Berber Fatimids came to power and began to fight the Abssids in Algeria and conqeured whole of North Africa and the Middle east. After the fatimids the Maghreb was conqeured by the Amorabitoun, Almohades, Merinids and some small dynasties.

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 Yes bsed on lies. Like saddam hossein and Khadaafi and more of Arabs leaders alosclaimed to be decedents of Ali ibn abu talib and Fatimah. Who talks about subsaharan genes???? The Maghrabians have the E1b1b1 M81 Y crosmosme haplgroup this haplogroup is WORLDWIDE known as the BERBER Marker. The Berbers had al ways ten times morepeople then the Arabians in the Arabian peninsula. The Arabs have the j1c3d1 Y chromosme haplogroup a SUBCLADE of J1 haplogroup this a Worldwide known fact.

[vriend1]

@zizouzenati

North central Berbers have a very low amount of Sub Saharan ancestry, but the southern Tuaregs who have reached down into Mali show a very high level. Other DNA studies have shown the European admiture into North Africans to be around 4%, the Eurasian Mt DNA comes from the paleolithic westward expansion one Eurasian, and the later Neolithic expansion of Eurasian into North Africa about 6,000 years ago.

[zizouzenati]

@vriend1 Saadi dynastie where absolutely not Arabs the claim that they were hassanids was based on lies. like the Alaouit dynasty of these days. Besides that the Saadi came from Tagmadert in the valley of the Draa River. This region was and is 100% Amazigh(berber) like the name Tagmadert also says. The bever claied to be of decedents of Banu Sulaym, Banu Hassan and . Banu Hilal. They RULERS claimed to be decddenst of Hassan ibn Ali ibn abu talib. Which was also false claim.

[kacemOujda]

@MrNiksim First of all, I'm here to explain to you and correct you and not to fight with you. Because, what you have said is totally wrong. 100%Amazigh!!!, if you don't know please is better to you to keep quiet than telling lay or providing bad information's to others, because we're here to learn from each other. If you give wrong info's to people is very bad and shame. But it seems to me that you're against Arabs. If really you are then I'm not. See more details in the next text.

[kacemOujda]

Ce groupe est compose d'Amazighs et d'Arabes. nous sommes tous des freres.

Merci maxmovcom du partage

[MrNiksim]

@kacemOujda its 100% Amazigh and has nothing to do with Arabs!This is amazigh Culture and Tradition !!!

Amazigh4Live

Tradition

[MsMarocZina]

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