No surprise that California, one of the richest but most liberal state, especially in fiscal term, is on the edge of bankruptcy. Now Californian socialist model with its highest tax rate, strictest enviromental protection rules, and very generous welfare and healthcare systems is copied by Obama administration with its ambitious, costly health care reform of one trillion dollars for everybody including 12 milliions illegal immigrants who would be naturalized under Obama immigration reform.
Every town hall meeting is showing the same disapproval. A large majority of people are not in favor of the Obla-blah '' HELL CARE '' reform. Clearly, congressional reps are not listening to their constituents, and congressional reps not reading the bills before they vote. It is truly disgusting that congressional reps and senators refuse to put themselves on the same '' HELL CARE'' plate they want to dish out to you and me.
Obama is breaking Americans with reckless Government growth, spending and takovers of all our precious freedoms. Healthcare needs a tune-up but it's not broke.
The right to profit from denying people's health care isn't a freedom but a travesty. We pay more for less than other countries, and the system is broken with 45+ million uninsured Americans and medical bills now accounting for more people filing bankruptcies.
Private Health Insurance is 3 times more cost effective than Government Health Insurance. Government covers 27% of people, it spends as a percentage more than Canada & UK. (this model will cost massive $) It is far more cost effective to go with free market solutions through private insurance. Tort reform & letting insurance co. compete state-to-state, you will see incredible affordability for all Americans to get HC if we go in this direct approach, Obamas takeover style is reckless & wrong.
Private insurance is not 3 times more cost effective - that's just a bald-faced lie, courtesy of Blue Cross, et al. People in the U.S. model pay far more than people in every other industrialized nation, and get less for it with 45+ million uninsured. Insurance companies have 20-50 percent of their money going to overhead, single-payer systems do not.
We already have the greatest health care system in the world, we need to keep the intrusive government out of it. To fix HC we need to create access for low income Americans by reducing tort litigation against Doctors and letting the insurance companies compete state-to-state. Health insurance is in need of a tune-up but it is NOT broke. The US Government spending is what's broken. Our nit-wit actor on training wheels is not "fixing" anything.
We don't have the greatest health care system - that's a myth. Insurances profit from denying health care and access, and here's the sad reality that doesn't prevent people from still waving around their foam #1 finger: Here they are: tinyurl - dot - com/2su3p . Our ranking is poor and our life expectancy rating is at #50. That's hardly worth bragging about.
Interesting the government health care works pretty well in Western Europe. They have higher life expectancy (US #42) and lower infant mortality and pay half of what we do (16% vs 8% GDP).
But if it troubles all of you so greatly to have a higher standard of living, I guess you deserve the system you've got. Enjoy your decreased lifespans, social-darwinists.
The study is primarily based on cost. The U.S. extra cost is development of medical advancements that thousands of people from all countries come for when they need life saving treatments involving Comprehensive Care & State-of-the-Art Technologies; Proton Therapy, BrainSUITE, Da Vinci Robotic Surgical Systems and the best Doctors on earth. The rating is also based on access, which is where we need improvement. Not socialized medicine.
In all the hand-waving about this debate, people have sadly bought into a government scam. Nowhere in the declaration of Independence or the Constitution does it say every citizen has a right to health insurance. If you want something run efficiently, for God's sake don't put government in charge of it...
William Durant owned a buggy company when change came-the automobile. so, he adapted without government assistance and started his own company. general motors.
it is incredulous how so many people who were the bureaucracies' most ardent critics are now their largest cheerleaders solely because of the stooge at the front of the line. everything government touches turns into shit.
so, let's give them healthcare-barney frank can run it into the ground just like home mortgages
our barry who art in DC hallowed be thy name thy taxes come destruction done in boise as it is in boston give us this day to feed the fed and forgive us our trespasses as you condemn those and pass laws against us lead us blind into fascism and deliver us from freedom for thine is the bullshit, the banksters, the taxes to keep us in tyranny forever, amen.
voyeurdug, You are right, add to what you just said that the health insurance companies actually are an incentive for people not to get primary care; nobody wants their medical records to have a stain in them that the insurance companies will use to deny you a policy or coverage because of pre-existing conditions.
Private insurance companies have gone too far in their effort to screw people out of coverage.
Where do all you people think the money is coming from to get this Obama care going. Your pockets thats where? I will pay for my own health care but not everyones.
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Move to France, I prefer to be a free man. You will wake up one day after the government has inserted itself into every aspect of your life and lament that you did not stand up and fight when we still had a chance to be free.
A touch on the melodramatic side dont you think? Btw would you call a person free who pays hundreds of dollars in premiums every month for health care only that when they actually become sick there is a team of insurance agents sitting there trying to figure out a way to deny them that coverage? Maybe you should realize that you're defending crooked CEO's getting rich of letting people get sick....there of course needs to be some government oversight and regulation
Keep talking King Obama!
diabloben68 2 years ago
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No surprise that California, one of the richest but most liberal state, especially in fiscal term, is on the edge of bankruptcy. Now Californian socialist model with its highest tax rate, strictest enviromental protection rules, and very generous welfare and healthcare systems is copied by Obama administration with its ambitious, costly health care reform of one trillion dollars for everybody including 12 milliions illegal immigrants who would be naturalized under Obama immigration reform.
TOMP66666 2 years ago
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Every town hall meeting is showing the same disapproval. A large majority of people are not in favor of the Obla-blah '' HELL CARE '' reform. Clearly, congressional reps are not listening to their constituents, and congressional reps not reading the bills before they vote. It is truly disgusting that congressional reps and senators refuse to put themselves on the same '' HELL CARE'' plate they want to dish out to you and me.
MrBluegrassfiddler 2 years ago
Obama is breaking Americans with reckless Government growth, spending and takovers of all our precious freedoms. Healthcare needs a tune-up but it's not broke.
hellotommy 2 years ago
The right to profit from denying people's health care isn't a freedom but a travesty. We pay more for less than other countries, and the system is broken with 45+ million uninsured Americans and medical bills now accounting for more people filing bankruptcies.
Single-payer now!
rasaxSF 2 years ago
Private Health Insurance is 3 times more cost effective than Government Health Insurance. Government covers 27% of people, it spends as a percentage more than Canada & UK. (this model will cost massive $) It is far more cost effective to go with free market solutions through private insurance. Tort reform & letting insurance co. compete state-to-state, you will see incredible affordability for all Americans to get HC if we go in this direct approach, Obamas takeover style is reckless & wrong.
hellotommy 2 years ago
Private insurance is not 3 times more cost effective - that's just a bald-faced lie, courtesy of Blue Cross, et al. People in the U.S. model pay far more than people in every other industrialized nation, and get less for it with 45+ million uninsured. Insurance companies have 20-50 percent of their money going to overhead, single-payer systems do not.
rasaxSF 2 years ago
We already have the greatest health care system in the world, we need to keep the intrusive government out of it. To fix HC we need to create access for low income Americans by reducing tort litigation against Doctors and letting the insurance companies compete state-to-state. Health insurance is in need of a tune-up but it is NOT broke. The US Government spending is what's broken. Our nit-wit actor on training wheels is not "fixing" anything.
hellotommy 2 years ago
We don't have the greatest health care system - that's a myth. Insurances profit from denying health care and access, and here's the sad reality that doesn't prevent people from still waving around their foam #1 finger: Here they are: tinyurl - dot - com/2su3p . Our ranking is poor and our life expectancy rating is at #50. That's hardly worth bragging about.
rasaxSF 2 years ago
Put the kool-aid down, sir, Step away from the kool-aid...
hellotommy 2 years ago
Interesting the government health care works pretty well in Western Europe. They have higher life expectancy (US #42) and lower infant mortality and pay half of what we do (16% vs 8% GDP).
But if it troubles all of you so greatly to have a higher standard of living, I guess you deserve the system you've got. Enjoy your decreased lifespans, social-darwinists.
essayant2 2 years ago
The study is primarily based on cost. The U.S. extra cost is development of medical advancements that thousands of people from all countries come for when they need life saving treatments involving Comprehensive Care & State-of-the-Art Technologies; Proton Therapy, BrainSUITE, Da Vinci Robotic Surgical Systems and the best Doctors on earth. The rating is also based on access, which is where we need improvement. Not socialized medicine.
hellotommy 2 years ago
Would it be any different if Washington was suddenly crazy and turned into Big Brother ?
Would it differ from reality if the pharmaco-medicalo machine wanted all christians dead ?
Look up in the sky! It's a cloud, it's a jet, NO it's a chemtrail !
Are there 2 americans not hypnotized yet ?
911allo 2 years ago
Zionists control the USA, they own the Federal Reserve and the medias, they are or own the government.
Obama is just a false messiah under full Zionist control.
When he says "Change" he means New World Order which is the opposite of the end of the order of things spoken about in the Bible.
A metaphor is Michael Jackson's satanic image.
I have a rough time opening my eyes on reality.
Euthanasia is next on their agenda.
For cost ???
Do I listen to Obama speaking like this now ?
911allo 2 years ago
what a sad sad puppet he is..
GoKartsGo 2 years ago
In all the hand-waving about this debate, people have sadly bought into a government scam. Nowhere in the declaration of Independence or the Constitution does it say every citizen has a right to health insurance. If you want something run efficiently, for God's sake don't put government in charge of it...
hamredb1 2 years ago 2
William Durant owned a buggy company when change came-the automobile. so, he adapted without government assistance and started his own company. general motors.
it is incredulous how so many people who were the bureaucracies' most ardent critics are now their largest cheerleaders solely because of the stooge at the front of the line. everything government touches turns into shit.
so, let's give them healthcare-barney frank can run it into the ground just like home mortgages
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago 2
wolfgangfaust 2 years ago
Preventive care is cheap, and break-even.
Curative care is cheap, and not very profitable.
Palliative care is very, very expensive, and is very profitable.
voyeurdug 2 years ago 2
voyeurdug, You are right, add to what you just said that the health insurance companies actually are an incentive for people not to get primary care; nobody wants their medical records to have a stain in them that the insurance companies will use to deny you a policy or coverage because of pre-existing conditions.
Private insurance companies have gone too far in their effort to screw people out of coverage.
onlyrey 2 years ago
Where do all you people think the money is coming from to get this Obama care going. Your pockets thats where? I will pay for my own health care but not everyones.
BubbaRas 2 years ago
who cares what you think, there's nothing you can do about it, its getting passed.
bigbossman999 2 years ago
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Move to France, I prefer to be a free man. You will wake up one day after the government has inserted itself into every aspect of your life and lament that you did not stand up and fight when we still had a chance to be free.
LawyerScumGhost 2 years ago
A touch on the melodramatic side dont you think? Btw would you call a person free who pays hundreds of dollars in premiums every month for health care only that when they actually become sick there is a team of insurance agents sitting there trying to figure out a way to deny them that coverage? Maybe you should realize that you're defending crooked CEO's getting rich of letting people get sick....there of course needs to be some government oversight and regulation
bigbossman999 2 years ago
AYA HIRANO
SuzumiyaHaruhi0 2 years ago