I can't wait to see how pathetic this olympics is going to be .......i mean the world don't fully realize how sad the U.K. and its people have become......... Due to years of war and emmigration the genetic profile of the brittish people is less than desirable...
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Isn't this supposed to be a celebration of unity throughout world cultures. Just the fact that an event like this takes place is surely a possitive thing... right? ...especially after a decade where war has filled the channels of every news medium. British, Americans, Russians, and the significant others aside - we don't do bad by each other really
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@Ravensteinzh You do know the (IOC) Or for you idiot's "The International Olympic Committee" calculates the winner of a Olympic team by the most "overall" medals in Total event's... So with that being said the united states already beat china on their home "turf" so what makes you think they will win in Europe? LMFAO
@EricSHinton I am merely disagreeing with you so I do not understand why you are using fighting words.
If what you say it is true, then how come China is "Rank #1" on medal table for 2008? The reason is that gold is ranked first, followed by silver and then bronze. In 2008, a weighted method was used. 4 points for gold, 2 for silver and 1 for bronze. China had 274 points compared to US's 256, the rationale for China being number 1. If you want a source, I'll provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>its sorting of nations is the official ranking system, known as Medal count ranking, but than again IOC President Jacques Rogge confirmed that the IOC does not have a view on any particular ranking system Except the obvious "Medal count ranking"
@EricSHinton I do not consider Wikipedia to be a good source so I do not use it. Please do not assume. Anyway, the IOC does not prefer any specific system to rank, evident by IOC President Jacques Rogge's confirmations. The least used is the demographic system. The most commonly used is prioritizing gold over other medals. If it is ranked based on total medal, that makes no difference between gold, silver and bronze, and thus would give no incentive for athletes to aim for gold.
@Ravensteinzh you obviously have a slight touch of retardation, the most commonly used is the Medal count ranking, hell even the IOC website has it on there, the only incentive is to get on the podium, gold is just merrily a metaphor for bragging rights and to be "NAMED" THE BEST at that single event
@EricSHinton The gold-first method (gold worth the most) is the most commonly used, evident by utilization by the vast majority of the media around the world (including New York Times, which stated that China won the 2008 Olympics). And no the IOC does not have it on there. Stop making things up please. If you lost in 2008, you lost in 2008. Don't be a sore loser and don't live in denial.
Also, answer this: why did the US use the gold-first method in 2004 Athens Olympics then?
@Ravensteinzh You are trying to use American websites like "wikipedia" as a valuable source of information? lmfao. The IOC does not publish or recognize medal tables, in 2008 china tried to use a exponential points system in witch the IOC did not back, the same as Europe trying to use a Demographic ranking, the only system the IOC considers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@Ravensteinzh The only reason china had ANY kind of success in 2008 was because it was held in their country, why do you think their all time medal count of combined winter and summer Olympics is only 429 medals
@EricSHinton China does not have good Olympic standing compared to the US or USSR, much of that has to do with being a poor country and having been on world stage for around 30 years.
@Ravensteinzh wow your ignorance is showing, it's no surprise you are from Canada, i can tell now by your ignorance, even athletic sport's in school, wrestling swimming and so on are calculated the same way, by majority metal tally, that's like saying the won with the most "goals" in soccer doesn't win.... what an idiot, like i said it was home turf and it was to be expected that they would have more gold, i bet they wont even be in the top 5 this Olympics
@Ravensteinzh i didn't loose anything, you are to stupid to comprehend, China with a population of 1.2 billion people compared to America with 365 million, china has hometown advantage and china had over 630 team members the u.s had around 530 and still the usa walked away with more medals, you are the only one that assumes that the most medal tally isn't the clear winner. like i said they will not be in the top 5 this Olympics because they don't have their politics and country backing them up
@EricSHinton You are getting off topic, which is admitting defeat in the original topic. China did score rank 1 in 2008 Olympics. That does not change, even your own country's media agrees to this. Yes China does have more people, what are you trying to say with that? Chinese are inferior people because it is a poorer country with OVERALL less games played and less athletes? What about when the US has far more people than East Germany but has less gold and total medal than it? Sore.
@Ravensteinzh lmfao you still think the medal tally isn't the clear winner? lmfao you Canadians are even more retarded than I thought, it's no wonder you only have a sorry ass medal count of 405 combined medals "summer/winter" last time I checked the united states has more gold than any one in both summer and winter Olympics and the most combined medals
@EricSHinton At first you said that IOC and everyone uses the total medal count. When you find out that isn’t true, you argue that the demographics method is used. But then it is kind of obvious, not to you because you are retarded, that the gold first or weighted makes the most sense because the IOC uses he gold first medal table on their website.
@Ravensteinzh go on the IOC website even the article on the 2008 Olympics Jacques Rogge wrote says "the only form of table i support is the obvious, Medal count ranking, because it makes the most sense" you are just sour because your country sucks, lmfao a lousy 405 combined medals, lmfao how pathetic polar bear, and i never said the demographics method is used you fucking retard, what does the cold have your eyes fucked up to you igloo living polar bear?
@EricSHinton Making things up I see... Jacque Rogge said in 2008 that they will be posting the medal count based on gold-first, which is the sole reason why China is ranked first and USA 2nd, its on the website, you obviously didn't check.
You can insult Canada, that is getting off topic because you are sore and have nothing to back up your failed argument. The Olympics is about participation and peace. But you obviously seem extremely angry because USA came in 2nd and China 1st.LOL
>>>>>>points, against 6 for each of X and Z. (Y wins if 4b > g > 2b > 0.) Hence these corner weightings determine which countries can be beaten one-on-one, not which combinations of countries can simultaneously be, China’s G is bigger, so China wins under I and II. The USA’s G+S is bigger, so it wins under III and IV. And the USA’s G+S+B is bigger, so it wins under V and VI, so theretically even in a mathematical standpoint the united states won
>>>>>>>>>>Consider X = 2:0:0; Y = 1:0:4; and Z = 0:0:6. Under I, II, III laws and IV the ordering is X beats Y beats Z. Under V and VI it is the reverse: Z beats Y beats X. So Y can beat X, and Y can beat Z, but in the six corner weightings Y is always second. But if a gold is given 3 points, a silver 2, and a bronze 1, then Y wins with 7 >>>>>>>>>
@Ravensteinzh This proves you level of retardation, since you want to use weight let's do a little math retard, using G:S:B and P, Q and R, with medals P = 1:0:1; Q = 0:2:0; and R = 0:1:2. and m>N I - IV as a base, if M beats N under none of them, there is no sensible weighting scheme under which M beats N. But that is only pairwise competition. >>>>>>>>>>
@EricSHinton Still, you agree now that China ranked 1st and US 2nd because now you just degraded to talking about Canada and saying Canadians are inferior because of the lower medal count in total, which you did not talk about before you found out you were wrong.
To further cement this topic, Australian IOC member Kevan Gosper said, "ever since 1992, they've been releasing 'information' based on the 'gold first' standard" and it is also on IOC site.
>>>>>>>by the Chinese" and now all of a sudden they won? lmfao you really are making yourself look ignorant, might as well just have one medal a gold and a gold ceremony only, lmfao you idiot, like I stated before if it were not held in china the Chinese can not compete just like you will see this Olympics Mr. sorry "Canadian" with your 405 medals, LMFAO
@Ravensteinzh LMFAO I just proved you wrong mathematically "below" and geometrically and you still insists china won? lmfao, they might as well not have a bronze or silver than if we go by your way, LOL idiot, the united states had more silver, more bronze and a more over all total, china had more gold "due to the fact that it was in china and held>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@EricSHinton No you did not prove me wrong dumbass (first you use total medal count, switches to demographics and then to weighted because you are proven wrong on every single method). The way you weight is based on the old version (5-3-1) or new (4-2-1). Based both methods, China scored higher and won 1st place in 2008 Olympics). There is really no limits for how delusional people in denial can get like you. You are still whining even when IOC objectively stated otherwise. LOLderp.
@Ravensteinzh Can you not do math? Even if you used a weighted system with Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1 with the pullouts of X,Y and Z the number would come out in the united states favor of being 2.2 I 3 to the Chinese being 2.2 I 0, the united states had more silver, more bronze and a over all total medals, so the united states would win in 3 of the 4 categories "total metals, weighted and demographics "smaller population"
And I don't know why I am saying this to a tool again, but the IOC already confirmed who is ranked 1, it is on their medal count table on their website, they don't consider demographics, it is a joke. US didn't get first place and the world knows that. Some of your medias are agreeing to this now, even though some of them used the total count before. No one is butthurt except you. LOL
>>>>>>>>>>you in a practical and mathematical fashion, you are just too stupid "from Canada" to comprehend any simple equation of simple geography it's no wonder you only have 405 medals, the united states are inferior to you and the rest of the world, whats the all time Olympic medal count? lmfao oh that's right, you know whos BOSS LMFAO
@Ravensteinzh >>>>>>>>>>>>>is the dumb ass, The IOC does not declare any country as a winner in the Olympics, so doing so is strictly an opinion and personal translation of the outcome. LMFAO you FAIL.... 405 medals = Canada LMFAO
@Ravensteinzh god you are far beyond fixing, lmfao the IOC doesn't support rankings so their for they have zero about rankings or place on there website, "anyone" with a computer can see that, and for two i just i just schooled>>>>>>>>>>
I'm british and i hope my own culture will burn in hell, us british would sell our own grandmother for a penny. No one in britian wanted the olympics and this multicultural bullshit of a new world order of total greed.
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Alot of people think something big is going to happen this year? I agree, America we've seen your presidential candidates... and frankly they scare the shit outta me. Newt wanting u.s.a to have first space colony? Talk about plans of wasting money for something not close to being even needed! I'm not sure about the " illumanati " ? Satan can stay in America thanks!
not when the americans come over. OH NO. they just ruin everything, the most overrated people i know. Americans are full of themselves and are a bunch of retards. Thats the only thing that will ruin the olympics sadly.
There has been little (if any) consideration for the real people that live here in London but who gives a tomtit about us,huh?. Just get it done with and leave us the bill. The rich will prevail while the poor drink cheap ail. London will be a haven for the broken hearted after these coming games. We are spoon fed drivel. "scussemematecouldntlendusadeepseadivercouldya?"
theres one rule as far as the conservative party are concerned.
the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. im pro labour, the conservative party only have the wealthy peoples best interests at heart. Shit like this gives people the false idea that london is great, when in fact nobody gives a shit about the working class. we can all rot as far as this goes.
@apodpora12 china dominated in 2008 because they won by far the most gold medals and thats what the london 2012 medal table will be based on: the amount of gold medals NOT total quantiity. USA is the ONLY country that ranks the medal table based on total quanitity, every other country bases it on amount of gold medals. It seems that USA is scared of admitting that they were beaten in 2008, every news paper in the world suggest china had topped the medal table BUT in usa they said the US did.
@009marshall are you complete idiot? where was china any other Olympics? oh thats right not in the top 5.. the only reason they walked away with more golds was due to the fact that it was held in Beijing, i bet they wont be in the top 3 this coming up Olympics because of that fact, now, according to the National Olympic Committees (NOCs) rankings are based by the number of medals won "total" by each country during the Olympic games not just "gold" medals alone
dont want your redneck asses coming over here. Especially as you rednecks sleep with your family, had george bush as a president, have the highest rates of obesity, india has more university graduates than america has kids, americans with their SUV's contributing to the worlds pollution. America is the illuminati homeland, america is the homeland of serial killers and pedophiles lol. Id rather have bad teeth than be stupid like an american, my teeth are fine by the way.
@Mixedracepride I don't see why you hate Americans anyways. If it wasn't for our fat asses, you would be speaking German right now. And btw, I threw out a stereotype that I know is mostly not true just to poke fun, but all of the ones you are saying are plain ridiculous. America the homeland of serial killers and pedophiles? And England doesn't have those too? India has 1 billion people while the U.S. has 300 million, so I wouldn't be surprised if India had more univ. grads than we have kids.
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@vintagefr Look this up in the Leaksource website: Olympic Symbols Originated from Hitler’s Nazi Propaganda.
I was actually wrong, it was just popularised by Hitler, not invented. But many other Olympics symbols we are familiar with (e.g. flaming torch) are a result of Hitler.
@brieflycake Don't believe anything you read or hear. The flaming torch has its roots on ancient greece where a flame kept burning throughout the games. I am pretty sure that nothing is a result from the nazi's or Hitler because during the war there was no olympic games. :)
@vintagefr well there u are wrong, if you had read the article, you would know why :) The greeks kept a flame going, but they did not commence th olympics with it, and they didnt run through the streets with it. Both of those were started by the Nazis
@brieflycake Well I can't explain everything in english. I am greek and I know one or two things about ancient times. Why I don't believe the Nazi's had anything to do with the games is because during wars throughout the years olympic games would stop. What I mean is I don't think the nazi's even knew what the games were. The ancient greeks didn't run with the flame because only greeks would participate. Nowadays almost every country participates and the runners somehow unite the nations.
@vintagefr Ok. well it was the 1936 German olympics, before the war started. It was by hitlers command that the torch was carried through the streets and used to commence the games, a tradition that has continued ever since.
I hope England and America fail so badly in the olympics. I hope that some small tiny country nobody has heard of destroys every event and gets all the golds.
This is criminal example of how the UK taxpayer is subsidising London YET AGAIN, whilst local sports clubs up and down the UK are being denied cash due to the £12 BILLION cost of this 3 week jamboree for rich athletes and even richer olympic 'organisers'
Shame on Coe and the other lot who will no doubt be even richer at the end of all this.
@spike200965 Stop moaning already, it's always "hard-working tax payer this" and "hard working tax payer losing that...". Just enjoy the games and the tourism they bring to the city.
I hope London include Wales, Scotland and Northern Island somehow in the opening ceremony, because I'll be really annoyed if they don't. I hope they capture Britain in the right way, and show what our culture should be, like bagpipes, Welsh singers and Irish dancers :), and not just typical 'London'
I'm not for building a New Stadium for the Olympics Games. Because,in London, there are already lots of Stadiums. When building a new Stadium, they pollute the atmosphere.
In Africa for example, We see millions of people starving and in London, for the Olympics, they build a new big Stadium.
2012, the end of the world conspiracy... i was thinking what would it be!! in a single place, zillions of people and a fake disaster happens to examinate it, then it's the worst disaster to split the world in 2 parts. be careful people, i guess it's coming.
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lolll ....THEY WANT WHITE PLAYERS AND WHITE TOURISM ...BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO BE HOST CITY FOR ANYTHING ....WHEN THE WORLD IS MULTICULTURAL AND FULL LANGUAGES...LONDON = BAD PEOPLE......
Guaranteed we'll fuck it up. our transport is shit and we're rude and angry. The jubillee line and dlr will break down like usual and it will be fucked trust me
the united states is going to walk away with more medals than anyone like always, it's funny seeing they dominate but they are the only country in the world that doesn't pay their Olympic athletes
@EricSHinton are u fucking dumb course we pay our athletes how u think they get where they need to be without any money retarded yank we will win this year and if we do im gunna shit on your skanky american flag
@MMORPG93 LMFAO the united kingdom has never won a Olympics game.... The united states has more Olympic gold medals, silver medals, bronze medals and over all medals than any other country, you will see us walking away with more medals than anyone once again this year
1. One week before the London Olympics rioting breaks out because the 'KIDS' don't feel they have a voice and that the Olympic focus will take that notion further away. David Lammy MP agrees with them.
2. Pole vaulting and high jump are banned for health and safety reasons.
3. The Sprinters are told to slow down a little, health and safety rules. Sorry.
4. Lord Coe gets a job as QPR manager.
5. Somali pirates are spotted in the Olympic pool.
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@liljuve13 The illuminati are going to blow up the stadium. it will be another falsh flag attack like 9/11. I suggest you not go to the olympics. just watch it at home.
new york should have got the Olympic games, UK after this doesn't need another Olympic games for at least 100 years,,,,,, you can say whatever you want, but new york is new york, you can't beat that
I can't wait to see how pathetic this olympics is going to be .......i mean the world don't fully realize how sad the U.K. and its people have become......... Due to years of war and emmigration the genetic profile of the brittish people is less than desirable...
SuperAgnostic1 2 hours ago
Is that Bob Costas? I wish he would just narrate everything.
Kennylpj 3 days ago
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ankaz123 4 days ago
Please take into account, if you there is even a possibility of the 2012 Olympics being attacked, it will not be by aliens, do not believe anyone that says it is aliens, it would be a false flag attack by the military to further their agenda in controling us. If anyone blame the illuminati, the military government or those sitting on thrones in Washington DC. Peace and Love and Prayers that the 2012 Olympics conspiracy is just that and comes to nothing.
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thesamesnoop2 5 days ago
something TERRIBLE is going to happen.... be aware
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MrMattSimkin 6 days ago
Isn't this supposed to be a celebration of unity throughout world cultures. Just the fact that an event like this takes place is surely a possitive thing... right? ...especially after a decade where war has filled the channels of every news medium. British, Americans, Russians, and the significant others aside - we don't do bad by each other really
MockBlue 6 days ago
why this american accent
00Dyana 6 days ago
i'm going to the football final at wembley :D i love london
RobertBedfordVEVO 1 week ago
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TheMillersTale2001 1 week ago
It's coming, A BIG DISASTER!!
mohijazi666 1 week ago
Omg This really terrifies me
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alejandromedinafilms 1 week ago
the united states is going to walk away with the most medals like always. GO USA
EricSHinton 2 weeks ago
@EricSHinton Yeah the US will walk away with the most medals, but China will walk away being number 1.
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh You do know the (IOC) Or for you idiot's "The International Olympic Committee" calculates the winner of a Olympic team by the most "overall" medals in Total event's... So with that being said the united states already beat china on their home "turf" so what makes you think they will win in Europe? LMFAO
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton I am merely disagreeing with you so I do not understand why you are using fighting words.
If what you say it is true, then how come China is "Rank #1" on medal table for 2008? The reason is that gold is ranked first, followed by silver and then bronze. In 2008, a weighted method was used. 4 points for gold, 2 for silver and 1 for bronze. China had 274 points compared to US's 256, the rationale for China being number 1. If you want a source, I'll provide.
Cheers.
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>its sorting of nations is the official ranking system, known as Medal count ranking, but than again IOC President Jacques Rogge confirmed that the IOC does not have a view on any particular ranking system Except the obvious "Medal count ranking"
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton I do not consider Wikipedia to be a good source so I do not use it. Please do not assume. Anyway, the IOC does not prefer any specific system to rank, evident by IOC President Jacques Rogge's confirmations. The least used is the demographic system. The most commonly used is prioritizing gold over other medals. If it is ranked based on total medal, that makes no difference between gold, silver and bronze, and thus would give no incentive for athletes to aim for gold.
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh you obviously have a slight touch of retardation, the most commonly used is the Medal count ranking, hell even the IOC website has it on there, the only incentive is to get on the podium, gold is just merrily a metaphor for bragging rights and to be "NAMED" THE BEST at that single event
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton The gold-first method (gold worth the most) is the most commonly used, evident by utilization by the vast majority of the media around the world (including New York Times, which stated that China won the 2008 Olympics). And no the IOC does not have it on there. Stop making things up please. If you lost in 2008, you lost in 2008. Don't be a sore loser and don't live in denial.
Also, answer this: why did the US use the gold-first method in 2004 Athens Olympics then?
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh You are trying to use American websites like "wikipedia" as a valuable source of information? lmfao. The IOC does not publish or recognize medal tables, in 2008 china tried to use a exponential points system in witch the IOC did not back, the same as Europe trying to use a Demographic ranking, the only system the IOC considers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh The only reason china had ANY kind of success in 2008 was because it was held in their country, why do you think their all time medal count of combined winter and summer Olympics is only 429 medals
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton China does not have good Olympic standing compared to the US or USSR, much of that has to do with being a poor country and having been on world stage for around 30 years.
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh wow your ignorance is showing, it's no surprise you are from Canada, i can tell now by your ignorance, even athletic sport's in school, wrestling swimming and so on are calculated the same way, by majority metal tally, that's like saying the won with the most "goals" in soccer doesn't win.... what an idiot, like i said it was home turf and it was to be expected that they would have more gold, i bet they wont even be in the top 5 this Olympics
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton I like your personality. You lose a debate then you get off topic to talk about irrelevant things. Sore losers are sore...
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh i didn't loose anything, you are to stupid to comprehend, China with a population of 1.2 billion people compared to America with 365 million, china has hometown advantage and china had over 630 team members the u.s had around 530 and still the usa walked away with more medals, you are the only one that assumes that the most medal tally isn't the clear winner. like i said they will not be in the top 5 this Olympics because they don't have their politics and country backing them up
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton You are getting off topic, which is admitting defeat in the original topic. China did score rank 1 in 2008 Olympics. That does not change, even your own country's media agrees to this. Yes China does have more people, what are you trying to say with that? Chinese are inferior people because it is a poorer country with OVERALL less games played and less athletes? What about when the US has far more people than East Germany but has less gold and total medal than it? Sore.
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh lmfao you still think the medal tally isn't the clear winner? lmfao you Canadians are even more retarded than I thought, it's no wonder you only have a sorry ass medal count of 405 combined medals "summer/winter" last time I checked the united states has more gold than any one in both summer and winter Olympics and the most combined medals
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton At first you said that IOC and everyone uses the total medal count. When you find out that isn’t true, you argue that the demographics method is used. But then it is kind of obvious, not to you because you are retarded, that the gold first or weighted makes the most sense because the IOC uses he gold first medal table on their website.
It is O.K. to be number 2. Derp.
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh go on the IOC website even the article on the 2008 Olympics Jacques Rogge wrote says "the only form of table i support is the obvious, Medal count ranking, because it makes the most sense" you are just sour because your country sucks, lmfao a lousy 405 combined medals, lmfao how pathetic polar bear, and i never said the demographics method is used you fucking retard, what does the cold have your eyes fucked up to you igloo living polar bear?
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton Making things up I see... Jacque Rogge said in 2008 that they will be posting the medal count based on gold-first, which is the sole reason why China is ranked first and USA 2nd, its on the website, you obviously didn't check.
You can insult Canada, that is getting off topic because you are sore and have nothing to back up your failed argument. The Olympics is about participation and peace. But you obviously seem extremely angry because USA came in 2nd and China 1st.LOL
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
>>>>>>points, against 6 for each of X and Z. (Y wins if 4b > g > 2b > 0.) Hence these corner weightings determine which countries can be beaten one-on-one, not which combinations of countries can simultaneously be, China’s G is bigger, so China wins under I and II. The USA’s G+S is bigger, so it wins under III and IV. And the USA’s G+S+B is bigger, so it wins under V and VI, so theretically even in a mathematical standpoint the united states won
EricSHinton 1 week ago
>>>>>>>>>>Consider X = 2:0:0; Y = 1:0:4; and Z = 0:0:6. Under I, II, III laws and IV the ordering is X beats Y beats Z. Under V and VI it is the reverse: Z beats Y beats X. So Y can beat X, and Y can beat Z, but in the six corner weightings Y is always second. But if a gold is given 3 points, a silver 2, and a bronze 1, then Y wins with 7 >>>>>>>>>
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh This proves you level of retardation, since you want to use weight let's do a little math retard, using G:S:B and P, Q and R, with medals P = 1:0:1; Q = 0:2:0; and R = 0:1:2. and m>N I - IV as a base, if M beats N under none of them, there is no sensible weighting scheme under which M beats N. But that is only pairwise competition. >>>>>>>>>>
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh <<<<<<<<<<<<<< is from Canada... LMFAO, 405 lifetime medals, LMFAO
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton Still, you agree now that China ranked 1st and US 2nd because now you just degraded to talking about Canada and saying Canadians are inferior because of the lower medal count in total, which you did not talk about before you found out you were wrong.
To further cement this topic, Australian IOC member Kevan Gosper said, "ever since 1992, they've been releasing 'information' based on the 'gold first' standard" and it is also on IOC site.
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
>>>>>>>by the Chinese" and now all of a sudden they won? lmfao you really are making yourself look ignorant, might as well just have one medal a gold and a gold ceremony only, lmfao you idiot, like I stated before if it were not held in china the Chinese can not compete just like you will see this Olympics Mr. sorry "Canadian" with your 405 medals, LMFAO
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh LMFAO I just proved you wrong mathematically "below" and geometrically and you still insists china won? lmfao, they might as well not have a bronze or silver than if we go by your way, LOL idiot, the united states had more silver, more bronze and a more over all total, china had more gold "due to the fact that it was in china and held>>>>>>>>>>>>>
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton No you did not prove me wrong dumbass (first you use total medal count, switches to demographics and then to weighted because you are proven wrong on every single method). The way you weight is based on the old version (5-3-1) or new (4-2-1). Based both methods, China scored higher and won 1st place in 2008 Olympics). There is really no limits for how delusional people in denial can get like you. You are still whining even when IOC objectively stated otherwise. LOLderp.
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh Can you not do math? Even if you used a weighted system with Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1 with the pullouts of X,Y and Z the number would come out in the united states favor of being 2.2 I 3 to the Chinese being 2.2 I 0, the united states had more silver, more bronze and a over all total medals, so the united states would win in 3 of the 4 categories "total metals, weighted and demographics "smaller population"
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton No its 4/5-2/3-1.
And I don't know why I am saying this to a tool again, but the IOC already confirmed who is ranked 1, it is on their medal count table on their website, they don't consider demographics, it is a joke. US didn't get first place and the world knows that. Some of your medias are agreeing to this now, even though some of them used the total count before. No one is butthurt except you. LOL
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EricSHinton 1 week ago
>>>>>>>>>>you in a practical and mathematical fashion, you are just too stupid "from Canada" to comprehend any simple equation of simple geography it's no wonder you only have 405 medals, the united states are inferior to you and the rest of the world, whats the all time Olympic medal count? lmfao oh that's right, you know whos BOSS LMFAO
EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton So then you are calling the IOC stupid for ranking China 1st in 2008 Summer Olympics?
Man just 'cuz you didn't get first place doesn't mean you have to pull your hair and stomp your feet. LOOOOOOOOL dumbass
Ravensteinzh 1 week ago
@Ravensteinzh >>>>>>>>>>>>>is the dumb ass, The IOC does not declare any country as a winner in the Olympics, so doing so is strictly an opinion and personal translation of the outcome. LMFAO you FAIL.... 405 medals = Canada LMFAO
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EricSHinton 1 week ago
@EricSHinton fuck USA
MMORPG93 6 days ago
@diamonddonut lol dopey cunt, ill still be here in 2013 and laughin at your stupid comment
baddiec04 2 weeks ago
What's the background music? Can anybody please tell me? Thank you very much.
ruttatata 2 weeks ago
Be Very Careful! conspiracy theory may be real.
mestizofairy 2 weeks ago 17
I wish luck to all nations!
Nenadserb95 2 weeks ago 3
WHO EVER GOES TO LONDON ENGLAND DURING THE OLYMPIC GAMES
WILL BE KILLED
DON'T SAY WE DIDN'T WARN YOU
ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THEY'VE PREDICTED CAME TRUE
AND THIS TIME, THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH EVIDENCE FOR WHAT IS ABOUT TO UNFOLD
VEVORage 2 weeks ago
@VEVORage TRUE! Peicce the videos together people!
SPLENOROUS 2 weeks ago
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VEVORage 2 weeks ago
What is song ?
JervyProductions 2 weeks ago
Can't wait for 2012 olympics
Chrisruffolo81 2 weeks ago
@Chrisruffolo81 Neither can I,. I'm so excited
Kaynas1988 2 weeks ago
I'm british and i hope my own culture will burn in hell, us british would sell our own grandmother for a penny. No one in britian wanted the olympics and this multicultural bullshit of a new world order of total greed.
MrNeversaynever 2 weeks ago
FUKING BRITZ I HOPE YALL DIE IN HELL!!!
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Tokyorosebiz 3 weeks ago
Alot of people think something big is going to happen this year? I agree, America we've seen your presidential candidates... and frankly they scare the shit outta me. Newt wanting u.s.a to have first space colony? Talk about plans of wasting money for something not close to being even needed! I'm not sure about the " illumanati " ? Satan can stay in America thanks!
insaynDMR 3 weeks ago
oh man, i'm so pumped up for this!!!
JackHoang14 3 weeks ago
I have a funny feeling that something bad is going to happen at the Olympics this year.
Arissa577 3 weeks ago 6
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Stoke450450taxi 3 weeks ago
I am going to London Olympiiics, I am soooo excited!
This is going to be one of the best years of my life, for sure!
helenasofiamoreira 3 weeks ago
@helenasofiamoreira
not when the americans come over. OH NO. they just ruin everything, the most overrated people i know. Americans are full of themselves and are a bunch of retards. Thats the only thing that will ruin the olympics sadly.
Mixedracepride 3 weeks ago
Dont go. trust me
420conejo420 3 weeks ago 2
There has been little (if any) consideration for the real people that live here in London but who gives a tomtit about us,huh?. Just get it done with and leave us the bill. The rich will prevail while the poor drink cheap ail. London will be a haven for the broken hearted after these coming games. We are spoon fed drivel. "scussemematecouldntlendusadeepseadivercouldya?"
playerinlife 3 weeks ago
@playerinlife
theres one rule as far as the conservative party are concerned.
the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. im pro labour, the conservative party only have the wealthy peoples best interests at heart. Shit like this gives people the false idea that london is great, when in fact nobody gives a shit about the working class. we can all rot as far as this goes.
Mixedracepride 3 weeks ago
I CAN NOT WAIT!! im going to be in LONDON this summer while studying abroad. This will be the best summer of my life!
Elisse14 4 weeks ago
Are the Chinese going to cheat in gymnastics again?
ryanvanhazel 4 weeks ago
Greatt <3...London City Just POP...!! Go Go Go...London RuleZ ! Regards from Canary Islands, Spain
Flakito0018 4 weeks ago
what song is in the background? i recognize it from a movie or something but i cant figure out what! :P
LightPatronus92 4 weeks ago
Can't wait for the U.S. to dominate again!
apodpora12 4 weeks ago
@apodpora12 china dominated in 2008 because they won by far the most gold medals and thats what the london 2012 medal table will be based on: the amount of gold medals NOT total quantiity. USA is the ONLY country that ranks the medal table based on total quanitity, every other country bases it on amount of gold medals. It seems that USA is scared of admitting that they were beaten in 2008, every news paper in the world suggest china had topped the medal table BUT in usa they said the US did.
009marshall 4 weeks ago
@009marshall are you complete idiot? where was china any other Olympics? oh thats right not in the top 5.. the only reason they walked away with more golds was due to the fact that it was held in Beijing, i bet they wont be in the top 3 this coming up Olympics because of that fact, now, according to the National Olympic Committees (NOCs) rankings are based by the number of medals won "total" by each country during the Olympic games not just "gold" medals alone
EricSHinton 4 weeks ago
@apodpora12
yeah cannot wait till americans come to london. the same people who cant locate their own country on a map LOL
Mixedracepride 3 weeks ago
@Mixedracepride Yeah cannot wait to see British people, the same people who don't brush their teeth.
apodpora12 3 weeks ago
@apodpora12
dont want your redneck asses coming over here. Especially as you rednecks sleep with your family, had george bush as a president, have the highest rates of obesity, india has more university graduates than america has kids, americans with their SUV's contributing to the worlds pollution. America is the illuminati homeland, america is the homeland of serial killers and pedophiles lol. Id rather have bad teeth than be stupid like an american, my teeth are fine by the way.
Mixedracepride 3 weeks ago
@Mixedracepride I don't see why you hate Americans anyways. If it wasn't for our fat asses, you would be speaking German right now. And btw, I threw out a stereotype that I know is mostly not true just to poke fun, but all of the ones you are saying are plain ridiculous. America the homeland of serial killers and pedophiles? And England doesn't have those too? India has 1 billion people while the U.S. has 300 million, so I wouldn't be surprised if India had more univ. grads than we have kids.
apodpora12 3 weeks ago
i want miku hatsune to preform at the 2012 olympics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
MariaJones101 1 month ago
CANT WAIT FOR OUR U.S BBALL TEAM THIS IS GONNA BE OUT THE BOXX!
ITZKANGMIKE 1 month ago
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GTMMann 1 month ago
Did you know that the symbol of the olympics (the interlocking rings) was designed by the nazis? You learn something new every day.
brieflycake 1 month ago
@brieflycake What?!? The olympic rings were designed by Pierre de Coubertin the founder of the modern olympic games! Not even close...
vintagefr 1 month ago
@vintagefr Look this up in the Leaksource website: Olympic Symbols Originated from Hitler’s Nazi Propaganda.
I was actually wrong, it was just popularised by Hitler, not invented. But many other Olympics symbols we are familiar with (e.g. flaming torch) are a result of Hitler.
brieflycake 1 month ago
@brieflycake Don't believe anything you read or hear. The flaming torch has its roots on ancient greece where a flame kept burning throughout the games. I am pretty sure that nothing is a result from the nazi's or Hitler because during the war there was no olympic games. :)
vintagefr 1 month ago
@vintagefr well there u are wrong, if you had read the article, you would know why :) The greeks kept a flame going, but they did not commence th olympics with it, and they didnt run through the streets with it. Both of those were started by the Nazis
brieflycake 1 month ago
@brieflycake Well I can't explain everything in english. I am greek and I know one or two things about ancient times. Why I don't believe the Nazi's had anything to do with the games is because during wars throughout the years olympic games would stop. What I mean is I don't think the nazi's even knew what the games were. The ancient greeks didn't run with the flame because only greeks would participate. Nowadays almost every country participates and the runners somehow unite the nations.
vintagefr 1 month ago
@vintagefr Ok. well it was the 1936 German olympics, before the war started. It was by hitlers command that the torch was carried through the streets and used to commence the games, a tradition that has continued ever since.
brieflycake 1 month ago
@brieflycake Then it's my fault. Although I am not sure if this is actually true, you have more evidence than me :) Have a good day!
vintagefr 1 month ago
@vintagefr Ok, and a Good day to you too :)
brieflycake 1 month ago
America will win the most medals but... Usain Bolt will win alot of goldies
knightsisterab 1 month ago
I hope England and America fail so badly in the olympics. I hope that some small tiny country nobody has heard of destroys every event and gets all the golds.
JoshShwah 1 month ago
@JoshShwah "England" doesn't compete in the Olympics, GREAT BRITAIN does!
kwesiidun 1 month ago
@JoshShwah ...? o.O
ITZKANGMIKE 1 month ago
This is criminal example of how the UK taxpayer is subsidising London YET AGAIN, whilst local sports clubs up and down the UK are being denied cash due to the £12 BILLION cost of this 3 week jamboree for rich athletes and even richer olympic 'organisers'
Shame on Coe and the other lot who will no doubt be even richer at the end of all this.
spike200965 1 month ago
@spike200965 Stop moaning already, it's always "hard-working tax payer this" and "hard working tax payer losing that...". Just enjoy the games and the tourism they bring to the city.
Atrollin2 1 month ago
@spike200965 ~ Miserable cunt.
RipCruncher1 1 month ago
Last Olympics
TheBMXlove 1 month ago 2
I hope London include Wales, Scotland and Northern Island somehow in the opening ceremony, because I'll be really annoyed if they don't. I hope they capture Britain in the right way, and show what our culture should be, like bagpipes, Welsh singers and Irish dancers :), and not just typical 'London'
Hollyyclairex 1 month ago
@Hollyyclairex FUCK THE IRISH AND SCOTISH I HAVE NO TIME 4 THEM AS THEY HAVE NO TIME FOR US
MMORPG93 6 days ago
My folk group have enhanced to write and sing a song for the torch relay
JonThm 1 month ago
At least £12billion been spent so far. Surely you could feed the hungry with this money? Sick world we live in, rich get richer and poor get poorer.
awniad 1 month ago
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LEAVE LONDON PEOPLE! PLEASE!! THEY'LL FUCK THE OLYMPICS !!! THE ILLUMINATIES ARE GUNNA FAKE AN ALIEN INVASIONNNNN
NenaGamer 1 month ago
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fuck the illuminaties!
NenaGamer 1 month ago
america is going to win most medals again
DaisyEnid7 1 month ago
@DaisyEnid7 loll i was just thinking that haha
845763lola 1 month ago
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I can't wait to see the Olympics in HD for the first time this summer
SuperProxio 1 month ago
There going to be a terrorist attack
susanwilson13 1 month ago
simon88250 Yeah, there was a protest in 2005 about that... Alex (British)
alexpbyron 1 month ago
ive heard some people say, that hatsune miku is gonna sing at the opening, is this true?
imablue1 1 month ago
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abaayewa 1 month ago
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I'm not for building a New Stadium for the Olympics Games. Because,in London, there are already lots of Stadiums. When building a new Stadium, they pollute the atmosphere.
In Africa for example, We see millions of people starving and in London, for the Olympics, they build a new big Stadium.
They are mad !!! by Simon (French)
simon88650 1 month ago
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simon88650 1 month ago
oh my god... the missing link finally found...
2012, the end of the world conspiracy... i was thinking what would it be!! in a single place, zillions of people and a fake disaster happens to examinate it, then it's the worst disaster to split the world in 2 parts. be careful people, i guess it's coming.
diamonddonut 1 month ago 5
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@diamonddonut 12 August 2012! this numbers frighten me as hell!
lasttara 2 weeks ago
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snowedkami 1 month ago
Bet the opening ceremony isnt as good as Berlin 1936.
pequodman 1 month ago
fuck illuminati and london .. fucking bastards gonna kill people and blame it on muslims
EricDaSilva505 1 month ago
@EricDaSilva505 retard
golderlight 1 month ago
@golderlight your mom
EricDaSilva505 1 month ago
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@EricDaSilva505 and aliens! do not forget that!!!
NenaGamer 1 month ago
I can't wait, I'm so excited! :D I wish I could be there to cheer for our American teams (;_; ) My tv will have to do lol
TiNGE24 1 month ago
July huh. Ill be waiting -:)
xXCHubacaSlay3rXx 1 month ago
As if London congestion was not terrible enough, the Olympics will screw the entire transport system and flood London with even more foreigners. LOL
CaronAddeRockstar 1 month ago
I hope Miku's gonna sing in the olympic games!
RzorHLL 1 month ago
i just remembered the music, it's used in Mr Bean... oh dear.
Sebtastical 1 month ago
@Sebtastical Are you sure about it ? Personnaly, I think it has been used in Love Actually... Sounds better to me
TomoyoMiaka 1 month ago in playlist London
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CRITICISM OF ISRAEL OR ZIONISM....
I-S
N-O-T
A-N-T-I S-E-M-I-T-I-C
But STATE TERRORIST murder of civilians in Palestine, by Israel, is I-N-H-U-M-A-N-E
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Remove America's veto at the U.N.
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BlackRoof 1 month ago
GET OUT OF THE UK BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE , THEY ARE GOING TO SINK THE WHOLE PLACE DURING THE OLYMPICS!
I WARNED YOU
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2012 is now here and although all the music for the London Olympic Games has already been decided for the Established Artists. Why can't an unknown BAND at least get a chance,
Have a listen to our song Go for Gold and enjoy the video. What man can beat Usain whilst Smoking, Ok he didn't win Gold but would you fight Ali (see video)
Please like, comment and pass to your friends.
We are going to try our best to establish this song on Youtube as the Alternative London 21012 Anthem
Tokyorosebiz 1 month ago
Oh how I love those fluff olympic segments. Can't wait to spent an entire summer in front of the TV to watch the Olympics :)
Iammejustthatone 1 month ago
GO LONDON 2012!!! SEE YOU THERE WORLD!
Escualo78 1 month ago
independence for Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland, boycott the london olympics.
obsidianstatue 1 month ago
lolll ....THEY WANT WHITE PLAYERS AND WHITE TOURISM ...BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO BE HOST CITY FOR ANYTHING ....WHEN THE WORLD IS MULTICULTURAL AND FULL LANGUAGES...LONDON = BAD PEOPLE......
JairPeru 1 month ago
PEOPLE DONT GO TO THE OLYMPICS THE GOVERNMENT ARE GOING TO BLOW IT UP U WILL ALL DIE.
subhani34 1 month ago
Guaranteed we'll fuck it up. our transport is shit and we're rude and angry. The jubillee line and dlr will break down like usual and it will be fucked trust me
The7011 1 month ago
MANY PEOPLE IN U.K ARE RACIST.....OLIMPICS IS MULTICULTURAL AND HSITORIC....all the world knows...
JairPeru 1 month ago
nice vid man makes me excited for the olympics :)
carsandsports123 1 month ago
the united states is going to walk away with more medals than anyone like always, it's funny seeing they dominate but they are the only country in the world that doesn't pay their Olympic athletes
EricSHinton 1 month ago
@EricSHinton are u fucking dumb course we pay our athletes how u think they get where they need to be without any money retarded yank we will win this year and if we do im gunna shit on your skanky american flag
MMORPG93 6 days ago
@MMORPG93 LMFAO the united kingdom has never won a Olympics game.... The united states has more Olympic gold medals, silver medals, bronze medals and over all medals than any other country, you will see us walking away with more medals than anyone once again this year
EricSHinton 6 days ago
@EricSHinton No matter what video you go on, there's always an egotistic American in the comments section...
IINesasta 5 days ago
1:58 made me smile. I love how excited she is. xD
I can't wait for the Olympics! 8D
ebonyzerscrouge 1 month ago
1. One week before the London Olympics rioting breaks out because the 'KIDS' don't feel they have a voice and that the Olympic focus will take that notion further away. David Lammy MP agrees with them.
2. Pole vaulting and high jump are banned for health and safety reasons.
3. The Sprinters are told to slow down a little, health and safety rules. Sorry.
4. Lord Coe gets a job as QPR manager.
5. Somali pirates are spotted in the Olympic pool.
boudica75 1 month ago
too bad yall britts all going to die
ClassyHaze 1 month ago
God save England!
TakingAndChanging 1 month ago
Illuminati will do it's job. Thumbs up if you know what I mean so that people can see this and do some basic research over the internet about this.
shadyxx92 1 month ago
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shadyxx92 1 month ago
The British(Isr/eliowned) has put criminalmo33ad in charge ofsecurity. The same scum that carried out f/flgMunich attack to get world against the innocent Palpeople. Mo33admotto="bydeception"aka,deceit,dishonesty .1st/e1-world parasite ,worldterrorist.
theoutremerlibrary 1 month ago
@schmitar18
Are You Really That thick ?
do you believe EVERYTHING The media feed you ! you probably thinkk Conrad murray killed micheal jackson don't you
TheProXbulletboi 2 months ago
I CANT WAIT :D
tobinheath1278 2 months ago
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Tokyorosebiz 2 months ago
cant wait
xoxcourtneygreenexox 2 months ago 2
Whats going to happen in these olympics, i already bought my tickets. Nothing is going to happen.
liljuve13 2 months ago
@liljuve13 The illuminati are going to blow up the stadium. it will be another falsh flag attack like 9/11. I suggest you not go to the olympics. just watch it at home.
laker4lyfe333 2 months ago
@laker4lyfe333 I already got my tickets, i am do excited, what makes you think its going to get blown up?
liljuve13 2 months ago
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@liljuve13 Obviously u aint informed urself well. I'll pray for you. May God keep ur soul
NenaGamer 1 month ago
The olympics security has been put under the control of the same psychopaths the murdereddodianddiana .
theoutremerlibrary 2 months ago
@richgold1984 i wish you all the luck
-a guy from the USA
remixchild 2 months ago
new york should have got the Olympic games, UK after this doesn't need another Olympic games for at least 100 years,,,,,, you can say whatever you want, but new york is new york, you can't beat that
0604sasHa 2 months ago