Gieves & Hawkes marks the wearer as a parvenu. Why would anyone with money wear G & H when they could just as easily wear something with style from Ede & Ravenscroft?
I have had two suits made by them (very pricey) and 5 years later we are still struggling to get these things to fit properly. There customer service is actually quite good but I think some of the tailors have a mind of their own and this could be why the suits aren't fitting. Hopefully with the next visit they will finally fit well, I am hoping.
I bought a few suits from them here in the U.S. several years ago from a merchant which carried their brand. I will say that it is a beautiful design to this day, however, their customer service is sorely lacking as it has been over a month and I have not heard a word from them regarding additions I want to make to my wardrobe (emailed the merchant). With a plethora of other fine tailors available why would I buy from them again? Pity with all that classical music playing in the back..Cheerio!
I'm glad they're indiscreet enough to show off former customers; I've always wondered who'd buy from Gieves when so many great tailors who specialized in bespoke and don't bother with off-the-rack are just meters away.
Chaplin - born lower class.
Jackson - born lower class.
Clinton - middle class, always slovenly.
William - basically on the dole; probably got the jacket for free.
Beckham - born lower class.
Diana - Fucked the Prince of Wales and then died in a car accident.
@ROBdeLIS whats your point? I would rather someone born lower class and made something of him/herself than pretentious cunts who are born into money and go around You Tube making fun of off the rack from their high horse.
@easye1973 Clothes are one of the few things that separate pretentious cunts from members of the lower orders who have managed to slither their towards respectability. Boarding schools teach more than sodomy and show tunes; learning what to wear and how to eat takes dedication and effort.
My concern with Gieves is that they would rather market their product to parvenus on the basis of their celebrity status rather than rely on the quality of their tailoring.
@ROBdeLIS the whole idea of bespoke is status and celebrities have status. I don't care about that or the quality of the clothes I was asking why you make a point of bantering about people that are born lower class. What does that have to do with anything about the clothes. But the big question you have always wondered about has been answered lower class turned celebrities buy from G and H.
@ROBdeLIS weak argument I just don't see the point of you saying they are lower class. MJ was born in a very lower class and he become the best selling artist of all time that is amazing I don't care about his clothes. And also each time I have been on Saville row they all name drop everyone I have been too, tailors actually build a reputation by working referrals not placing ads like the mass produced designer labels.
@easye1973 "Lower class" isn't an insult, it is what it is. Lower class people tend not to be knowledgeable or experienced when it comes to formal, semi-formal and casual wear, traditionally defined. Jackson may well have been the best Western musician of the late 20th century, and Beckham may be the best footballer. Their financial success is a testament to their ability to buy anything, but not to make an educated decision.
@ROBdeLIS no one is arguing that but why say they are lower class you think G and H should discriminate who they decide to sell to just because they are not as informed as you are? You were not born with the knowledge you have about clothes someone thought you and this video is not about getting advice on clothes from celebrities but about G and H.
@easye1973 What's wrong with saying that they're lower class? It's not a pejorative term.
No one is saying that Gieves should pick and choose its customers, but if it wants to continue to pretend to be an elite tailor, it should be discrete.
Respond to this video... Personally I would not shop there but not based on the fact of who their clients are or whether then do ready to wear or not. It was your off topic remark and then your very reputable comment that makes zero sense, celebrities endorse product all the time does not make the compnay less reputable.
@ROBdeLIS I am afraid I agree with Rob. The reason they cite celebrity endorsements is so the can get more customers. A high end shop doesn't need this and can thrive on word of mouth from satisfied and exclusive clients. If G&H becomes a place where every Tom, Dick & Harry willing to max out their credit card can get a suit just because Beckham shops there, then shopping there would be the same as shopping at a Wal-Mart or a Target, so why bother? Exclusivity MUST be maintained.
Gieves & Hawkes marks the wearer as a parvenu. Why would anyone with money wear G & H when they could just as easily wear something with style from Ede & Ravenscroft?
mangore623 2 months ago
I have had two suits made by them (very pricey) and 5 years later we are still struggling to get these things to fit properly. There customer service is actually quite good but I think some of the tailors have a mind of their own and this could be why the suits aren't fitting. Hopefully with the next visit they will finally fit well, I am hoping.
chuckbuckbobuck 9 months ago
I bought a few suits from them here in the U.S. several years ago from a merchant which carried their brand. I will say that it is a beautiful design to this day, however, their customer service is sorely lacking as it has been over a month and I have not heard a word from them regarding additions I want to make to my wardrobe (emailed the merchant). With a plethora of other fine tailors available why would I buy from them again? Pity with all that classical music playing in the back..Cheerio!
xXxValiant1xXx 1 year ago
I'm glad they're indiscreet enough to show off former customers; I've always wondered who'd buy from Gieves when so many great tailors who specialized in bespoke and don't bother with off-the-rack are just meters away.
Chaplin - born lower class.
Jackson - born lower class.
Clinton - middle class, always slovenly.
William - basically on the dole; probably got the jacket for free.
Beckham - born lower class.
Diana - Fucked the Prince of Wales and then died in a car accident.
Very reputable.
ROBdeLIS 1 year ago
@ROBdeLIS. You, sir, are a delight.
cast4321 1 year ago
@ROBdeLIS whats your point? I would rather someone born lower class and made something of him/herself than pretentious cunts who are born into money and go around You Tube making fun of off the rack from their high horse.
easye1973 1 year ago
@easye1973 Clothes are one of the few things that separate pretentious cunts from members of the lower orders who have managed to slither their towards respectability. Boarding schools teach more than sodomy and show tunes; learning what to wear and how to eat takes dedication and effort.
My concern with Gieves is that they would rather market their product to parvenus on the basis of their celebrity status rather than rely on the quality of their tailoring.
ROBdeLIS 1 year ago
@ROBdeLIS the whole idea of bespoke is status and celebrities have status. I don't care about that or the quality of the clothes I was asking why you make a point of bantering about people that are born lower class. What does that have to do with anything about the clothes. But the big question you have always wondered about has been answered lower class turned celebrities buy from G and H.
easye1973 1 year ago
@easye1973 I've nothing against the lower class, I simply wouldn't turn to them for advice on how to dress like an aristocrat.
ROBdeLIS 1 year ago
@ROBdeLIS weak argument I just don't see the point of you saying they are lower class. MJ was born in a very lower class and he become the best selling artist of all time that is amazing I don't care about his clothes. And also each time I have been on Saville row they all name drop everyone I have been too, tailors actually build a reputation by working referrals not placing ads like the mass produced designer labels.
easye1973 1 year ago
@easye1973 "Lower class" isn't an insult, it is what it is. Lower class people tend not to be knowledgeable or experienced when it comes to formal, semi-formal and casual wear, traditionally defined. Jackson may well have been the best Western musician of the late 20th century, and Beckham may be the best footballer. Their financial success is a testament to their ability to buy anything, but not to make an educated decision.
ROBdeLIS 1 year ago
@ROBdeLIS no one is arguing that but why say they are lower class you think G and H should discriminate who they decide to sell to just because they are not as informed as you are? You were not born with the knowledge you have about clothes someone thought you and this video is not about getting advice on clothes from celebrities but about G and H.
easye1973 1 year ago
@easye1973 What's wrong with saying that they're lower class? It's not a pejorative term.
No one is saying that Gieves should pick and choose its customers, but if it wants to continue to pretend to be an elite tailor, it should be discrete.
ROBdeLIS 1 year ago
Respond to this video... Personally I would not shop there but not based on the fact of who their clients are or whether then do ready to wear or not. It was your off topic remark and then your very reputable comment that makes zero sense, celebrities endorse product all the time does not make the compnay less reputable.
easye1973 1 year ago
@ROBdeLIS I am afraid I agree with Rob. The reason they cite celebrity endorsements is so the can get more customers. A high end shop doesn't need this and can thrive on word of mouth from satisfied and exclusive clients. If G&H becomes a place where every Tom, Dick & Harry willing to max out their credit card can get a suit just because Beckham shops there, then shopping there would be the same as shopping at a Wal-Mart or a Target, so why bother? Exclusivity MUST be maintained.
NovusOrbisDecretum 8 hours ago