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  • hey so I am working on building my own fight stick and I was wondering what gauge wire you used on the joy stick? Also I see you used red and black wire, was black considred your ground?

  • Hey man great video.I have one question .I have street fighter IV SE arcade stick for ps3 and i am wondering if there is any way to make it work with xbox 360 too?Can u tell me ?Thanks

  • I keep reading about soldering 10k resistors for the triggers to make them neutral. Did you use any resistors?

  • @doug1180 not needed unless you remove the triggers from the PCB, if you leave them in they should remain in the unpressed position.

  • @johnbooth001 I suspected as much. I looked allover for neutralizing the triggers and found only poor quality videos. Thank you for taking time out of your life to answer, now I have a project to finish.

  • wouldnt it be easier to use 2 xbox360 hori or equivilant fight sticks and just strip them down and reconect the controls to your main cabinet controls if you were building a mame/retro/xbox360 cabinet?

  • I already built a custom 360 arcade controller and I've have recently had wiring issues. Would you be solder the wires to a new 360 wired controller circuit board, including the triggers? If so, how much would you charge? I will pay for the circuit board from the controller too.

  • what kind of buttons are those and where can i get them

  • Sweet. Great video. If I want to connect the d-pad up to buttons rather than a joystick, how do I need to go about that?

  • @Setzer should be the same connections on the xbox controller just 2 wires go to each button instead of a joystick

  • where i can get these buttons?

  • @dennisrahardian I got them from Gremlin solutions, but they are available a few places on the net.

  • wow 

  • wow wow wow

  • hey, can you help me with something? I have everything working except for the bumpers >.>

  • @MRcrec I can try? it's been a while since I looked at a pad but it should be as simple as soldering 2 wires to 2 pins on the switch? I did have problems with the triggers when they weren't left in the unpressed position. Post some good quality photos and I'll have a look.

  • dam bro nice vid wich joy stick did you use? for the pad?

  • @hugo1221 thanks, Sanwa Ball Top Joystick JLF-TP-8YT, Sanwa buttons & a couple of Happ buttons

  • What type of wires are the black, red, and green wires?

  • @MyWowable Red & black are just speaker wires and the green is just single strand wire. You can use any wires though, there is no real power going through the wire so just use anything you can get hold of.

  • Thanks for such a detailed guide, best one i've found. Can you just tell me why you add the seperate ground connections on the stick?

    Cheers

  • is it possible to just use the regular left analog stick rather than wiring the dpad to a new joystick? pls reply im working on my arcade stick now and i kinda wanna get it right the first time around due to the lack of a soldersucker...

  • great tutorial but it took me a short while to figure out that the green wires you attached from the D-pad went together to make 1 that went to the stick, what model is the arcade stick by the way ? and could you use all 8 green wires to the stick to avoid having to cut the tracks ? thanks

  • @FeniXD912 all wires don't go together to make one??? not sure what you mean by that??? for each move e.g. "UP" you need a ground wire and a signal wire. Depends on what type of pad you have as to if you need to cut the tracks. If you have a common ground pad then you could use the same ground for each move. If the pad doesn't have common grounds then you have to seperate the common grounds on the stick. I can't remember which model but its a Sanwa stick from Gremlinsolutions.

  • what kind of wires did you use on the video? and were all of the buttons and joystick sanwa?

  • what kind of wires did you use on the video? and were all of the buttons and joystick sanwa?

  • wish i had the patients to do this.

  • can anyone tell me where to get the buttons and joystick? I have experience building this stuff but I can't find any parts to build it :(

  • @Ladomendigo There is a great UK supplier called Gremlin Solutions, they ship world wide

  • @xyphious I just checked it out... and its pretty expensive. I'm better off spending $10 more on an already built one

  • @Ladomendigo I agree its expensive to make 1 and the build quality of the new ones would be alot better but this is abit more satisfying when it works.

  • hey dude is wire used for doorbells okay?

  • Anybody wanna sell one of these to me?

  • Thanks amigo

  • wht kind of wired does it have to be can it be electrical wire and if yes wht kind and wht store can i find it

  • can u make a list of the stuff required to make a arcade stick for example wht kind of soldering iron would u recommend wht did u use to scratch it off and how many should the solderpen be???? how thick should the wire be or thin

  • That's great, thanks

  • would these work on a wireless controller ?

  • FYI, if you don't have as steady of a soldering hand as johnbooth001, you can do this in half the solders and wires by using a single ground.

  • @xXp0larisXx Apparently older models of the controller didn't have a common ground. If you want to save some time, get a newer controller :-)

  • Great vid. Thanks for posting this...

  • nice job. my friend could use this.

  • Is it the same points for a wireless controller

  • what kind of wire are you using

  • I have built dozens of these, then the madcatz TE came out. Saved me a shitload of time. I do like your method, clean and smooth. Hotglue and all that - well done.

    I will say, tinning the contacts - I never did that. I just went balls to the wall and soldered right on!

  • So do I scrape the black carbon off the buttons then solder the wires to the possitive and negitive on each button then solder them 2 wires to one arcade button then how do I solder the dpad to the arcade stick and do u need lb rb for a arcade

  • And how do I wire up a dpad can u show me people said I need to use a 470 omh resistor

  • @IHDesigns - none needed

  • And does it matter if the wires is copper that I'm using it's a phone wir and do u need to pu any resistors on the controller?

  • @IHDesigns - phone wire fine, really is if you can solder it on it will be ok. No resistors needed unless you take any parts out of the board. Leave everything in and in the unpressed positions and no resistors needed.

  • Guys solder the 8 dpad wires to the 8 pins on the joystck and that should work I think

  • Yea butt what games u need the dpad for and is there a special gage wire u need to use and what do u use with lb rb rt rb for arcade games also I'm gonna make a cabnite

  • @IHDesigns - No special gauge wire as there is no real power going through the wires so no need to worry about that. Post a link when you've done your cabinet. Not sure what other questions you are asking?

  • @IHDesigns You need the D Pad for Mortal kombat DC Universe. For some odd reason, the force you to use the D Pad and don't give you the option to use the analog stick instead...

  • Why wood did unused and what wire and how did u do the analloge stick wiring

  • @IHDesigns Wood=MDF, Wire=Speaker wire, Analogue stick is the same as the D-Pad?

  • Is there a reason to have a separate ground for each button? (directions too?)

    Can same hack been made with only one ground tooked randomly from PCB?

    Thank you for the video! I just started to hacking my pads and I started from old PS One controller - for practice :-)

  • @PSLagutin depends which controller you have, there are some with common grounds and some that don't. I did mine that way so I didn't have to work it out. PM'd xbox-scene links for pad info.

  • Holly crap!

    Just give me the idea to use rumble pack signal to trigger the electrick shock device mounted into the chair - for motivation.

    No jocking, i think rumble signal with LEDS could be used in a cabined to lighting up a bit the side of the player who`s got a hit!

  • @PSLagutin excellent message :) definately the way to go. Electric shock for motivation.

  • can u send me some helpful links for a wireless, ive had a hard time finding good resources

  • @Siinzx0 everything is the same for a wireless one the only extra things are the battery's, I just cut the controller case so I just ended up with a battery compartment and cut an hole in my box and mounted it in the hole and wired it to the battery terminals on the pad. The other thing is the sync button, more difficult as has very small pads on the board. I removed the push button from the xbox controller got another bigger push button and wired it to where I had removed the other. links PM'd

  • fuckin sweet

  • INSANE! Well made (Y)

  • lol 7:48 Nazi Germany ^^

  • @armeno099 ??????

  • @MAGIKSPUDZz

    It looks like a swastika...

  • For the joy stick, do you wire the D Pad to it???

  • @YourVidsWatched - Yes

  • Can you do this with a PS3 controller aswell?

  • @YourVidsWatched - yes its possible but slightly more difficult. see sites like Slagcoin

  • Can you give me a link to where you purchased those wires, or tell me what store? Thanks in advance. Wonderful tutorial!

  • @EthNicCl34NsInG  Farnell or RS components, PM'd link

  • this is the official xbox 360 wireless controller right?

  • No, this is a wired pad. But since I have done it with a wireless one in exactly the same way. Yes both official pads.

  • I would never be able to do that. It's impossible.

  • Try it, not too dificult, the main problem is only the D-Pad connections.

  • great pro ,we see in you the man hoo know what he doing ;)

  • Outstanding tutorial.

  • @MrHenEgg & kamatchoukamatchou :)

  • Thanks for the quick response, you're the man.

  • Nice work man! but i have a question, do you leave the trigger button when you soldered them or you remove??

    Thanks! and sorry for my poor english.

  • I left them in and also in the unpressed position. If you want to remove them you would have to put a resistor in there place.

  • doing the D pad sucks balls, i need a way to keep those suckers on there. will crazy glue work? adter i solder? i dont have a glue gun

  • Not sure what krazy glue is? if its really thin, then probably not. Give it a try and then tape the wires to the edge of the board so the tape is taking all the pressure if the wires get pulled. The glue guns are quite cheap and usefull if you are doing things like this.

  • crazy glue does work !!! and this tut is geat. the pad was so hard but i did it. also

    make sure the micro switches are good caus i gett lag sometimes on te trigger buttons.

  • Great vid, i've thinking of doing this for my PS3, since i have a controller with a bad anolog stick.

  • Could you make one with a Wii classic controller.

  • Don't know, haven't got one to try. I would imagine it would be possible, Just follow the same techniques as I have done e.g. find out what makes things move then attach 2 wires to it.

  • I, too, listen to Tone Loc's Funky Cold Medina when modding my arcade sticks... Small world, eh?

  • hi is this a old style pcb???

  • hi is this the old or new controler pcb??? pls need to know how to soilder to old matrix wireless pcb THX

  • i tried soldering the wired 360 controller, the one problem i had was with the 2 bumpers and triggers..wasn't quite sure how to solder onto the contacts. any suggestions? also..can i solder the joystick points to the dpad?

  • im using an older 360 controller n im wondering if you have stumbled upon any useful sites? b/c the circuit board on mine are different so ne help would be helpful

    thanks for your post n time!

  • try "forums.xbox-scene"

  • Where can I usually find the parts for the board, buttons and the stick? What kind of shop? I'll try to make my own arcade stick for the upcoming Tekken 6.

  • gremlinsolutions. theres alot of good info on forums.xbox-scene & Slagcoin has info where to buy from.

  • okay. thanks man. I'm starting with the stick first.

  • Good luck, post some pics of the finished stick and send me a link to it if you get chance.

  • I will. I have a hard time looking for the right buttons though.

  • Im a little confused about where to solder for the DPAD. Are you soldering 2 wires at each spot marked with a blue arrow?

  • Yes the blue arrows are where I soldered to just because I couldn't scratch the black coating off good enough, I have seen some controllers where the black coating does scratch off ok and you can solder directly to them.

  • why myn(A) and (Y) button don't work i tested touching the wires.

  • Not sure, it should work by just touching them together. Have you used 2 wires per button? or just 1 & a common ground? check your soldering is good.

  • I used 2 wires per button and the soldering looks good. i don`t know hat happended.

  • Try removing the wires and then the 2 pads on the board that you soldered the wires to, try shorting them together with something metal and see if that works.

  • why not go wireles with a logitec rumblepad 2? , i havent felt any lag or tackles with it yet

  • Already updated it to wireless now but I used a microsoft one. Wires exactly the same as this video but there is extra things to do. e.g. sync & battery.

  • does this work for the PS3 aswell?

  • Not really PS3 is different, check out slagcoin for more info.

  • ok ok! everything's fine. I figured it out. everything works fine by putting the wires together. now I wait for the joystick and the buttons.

  • It may work ok by putting the wires together but really you need to leave the original triggers in the unpressed position for them to work correctly. If you are limited for space you could remove the whole triggers & pots but then you would have to put a resistor in place of the pots for it to work correctly.

  • the unpressed trigger thing is what I read up in the comments yesterday :D you could add that in the video. still waiting for my hardware. the arcadeshop I ordered my hardware seems to be a lazy one..

  • I cant get my trigger buttons to work as they should. they only work if I put the original arm of the potis in different directions :( what have you done to your trigger buttons?

  • I mean positions, not directions

  • Hi, very nice tutorial. I ordered my 11 seimitsu buttons and a Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT joystick. What joystick did you use? I'm a bit afraid of cutting the joystick pcb. I need another solution. I thought about splitting the ground wire (off the 5 pin wire-plug) into 4 wires to the buttons. what do you think?

  • Really depends on what controller you have? If you have a common ground type (I think newer ones are this type) you only need the one ground wire, the one supplied and no need to cut the PCB, just connect it to any one of the ground pins on the D-Pad and as its common it will be linked to them all.

    If its not common then you need to separate them on the joystick e.g. what I did in the video because they are not connected on the controller they cannot be connected on the joystick.

  • it's an xbox 360 controller for pc.

  • sorry, forgot this one. actually, my pcb looks just like yours

  • So where should i solder these green wires on the controller pcb?

    and if my controller is a CG version how should i connect the wires to the joystick (the easiest way)?

    And sorry for bodering you, i m about to build my first stick and i want to do the things the easiest way :p

  • Forgot to ask 1 question :]

    I must to remove those green lines on the joystick pcb and wire to the points in the video? or i can to connect 2 wires from each buttom to the joystick swichers?

    Thank you again :D

  • Depends on what type of controller you have. The one I have didn't have common grounds on, so I had to seperate it on the joystick as well. You can't just connect 2 wires as all the switches would still be connected to each other and that would cause you problems. The 4 green wires I have added are seperate grounds for each switch, then I found out which of the wires supplied with the joystick was for which switch and paired them up with each ground. just use a very sharp knife to separate them.

  • Just cut into the surface and peel the green line (Track) back then cut it off, they are only glued to the surface.

  • just want to ask regarding wiring on the joystick. On the video the joystick pcb already has a wire on the ground. should i remove that wire or just add another wire connecting the pcb to the controller grounds?

    sorry very new to building sticks

  • Depends on what controller you have, if you have one with common grounds (GNDs) you could just use the wire that is already on the joystick and connect it to all the GNDs on the controller. If your not sure just do it the way I have 2 wires for each move. If you see at 7.45 it tells you where to seperate (cut) the GND on the board, once they are seperated just add a wire to each of the GND points on the switchs. You only need 3 extra wires as you can use the original wire for one of the points.

  • thank dude, i made my arcade control for my computer but not whit the 360 controlers, now im gonna make this, thanks to u

    cheers man!!

  • Nice :) glad its helping people, inspiring people and also giving much needed info.

  • Thanks for the tutorial!! but i have 3 questions:

    1.You solder the Triggers just like all the other buttons or you need to do something else first?

    2.I can use the same tutorial on my Wireless controller?

    3. Do you know wheres the sync button placed?

    Thanks you very much!

  • 1. yes just same as all the rest but be aware the video is wrong for the triggers but I have added comments for correct wiring. just ensure the original triggers are kept in the unpressed position and they'll be fine.

    2. yes it works exactly the same, I have sinse converted mine to wireless.

    3. You need to remove the snyc button that is on the pad and connect 2 wires, one to the middle pad of the 3 and the other to the end furthest away from the charger and then to a simple push button.

  • First of all thank you very much for answering!

    but i didnt understood how to solder the sync button.

    after i remove the button then i can to solder it ? if you have a picture that may very help me.

    and 1 last question : can i remove the triggers or they must stay?

    Thank You

  • you need a different button and then solder it to where the sync button was on the board with wires. I'll post some photos later. I left the triggers in. if you want to remove them you have to add a resistor in there place and I'm not sure what value it should be, you'll be able to find out on these 2 websites forums.xbox-scene & Slagcoin

  • Trying to modify my arcade joystick . i connected the "x" and "y" button and they are ok and show up on the game. but the "a" and "b" button are not activated. "a" and ''b'' only works on the menu screen. HEEEEEELLLPPPP!!!!!!

  • looked like you made a blob at 7:11

  • apparently the xbox pads are WAAAAY easier than ps1/2/3

  • I can't believe that? there has to be points on the pad for each button to press on so just connect to them? who told you that some one who sells his mods?

  • hey man can you tell me all the material or the thing that you use and where I can buy then becuase I not really sure where I can get then ... and this a good video I just sub men take care

  • The wood is MDF from any wood store, buttons & joystick from gremlinsolutions theres alot of good info on forums.xbox-scene & Slagcoin would probably tell you where to get them locally. The wire any you have to hand doesn't really matter on the size. The paint Plasti-kote spray paint.

  • See what you mean now, checked the PS3 sixaxis controller out and its not quite as simple as 360 but still doable. Check out slagcoin for the wiring diagram for PS pads or move to the dark side and get a 360 :)

  • dude!! subscribed already. thats awesome. but, can you tell where to buy the parts? buttons, stick, etc. many thanks for all the info man.

  • Dude you really have me stumped as to how to hook up led's to the rumble motors :S

    Im really impressed its a pretty impressive idea- the first time ive seen it done

    muchas respect man

  • Thanks.

    You connect as many LED's as you would like to use together. They have a long leg and a short leg connect the same ones together then add wires and solder them to where the rumble packs connect, should be a white connector for the rumble packs, just solder the wires on the oppsite to the connector.(the 2 pins for the connector)

  • does the gage of the wire make a deffirence? Should i be using a specific gage on xbox controllers?

  • No doesn't matter, the reason I use 2 different types is just the size of the areas I am soldering to.

  • where did you order the joystick part and the buttons? from

  • gremlinsolutions co uk. theres alot of good info on forums.xbox-scene com & Slagcoin

  • thanks!!

  • if only i was that good at soldering lol but ima try it this weekend, especially since i have a 360 controller where the left analog always moves to the left on its own so its not liek wasting a 360 controller lol

  • what about right bumper and left bumper

  • What about them? they start in the vid @ 5:09. If you're having problems let me know?

  • whats ur gamer tag

  • Where is the ground wiring start? and how do you link it too all buttons?

  • You don't need to know which is the ground wire if you connect 2 wires to each button and treat them as seperate buttons. You only need to know if you are linking all the grounds together (which I didn't is this vid) and you would also need to check you have a pad that has got common grounds to able to link them together.

  • I've not played that game so I'm not sure why. The way I have done it works fine on SF4 & SFHD arcade game. Have you done all the connections the same way as I have? the trigger buttons in my video are wrong but theres a comment telling you which way to do them.

  • What no music?

  • Unfortunately not, you can't put any decent music on now???? only that free rubbish that you tube offers????

  • this aint no concert

  • Nice one,

    you're right there with you tubes copy right rules.

  • Nice touch with the rumble light

  • Thanks, if it had been planned I would have probably looked at using something different maybe LED strips that would light up all the box or something.

  • hey i was abel to to scratch the black off the d pad

    you mind explanieng whats next

  • Just solder a wire to each side of each D/Pad button where you have scratched off the black coating, should be 8 wires in total then connect them to the joystick

  • where exactly

    like on the top d pad for example soder the wire where i scratched off the padding or just on the top anywhere

  • See my other Video D/Pad hope this helps, be sure to keep these seperated from each other as the black part from each side are very close together. Do this for all the other D/Pad buttons. The wire should be fine, it really is any wire will do. If you can solder it to that perticular point then its good enough.

  • one more thing about the green wire i talked to an electrician at work told him about the door bell thing he told me try using primary wire 18 gauge is that good enough or not ?

  • great soldering skills man!.

    I'm gonna buy a Sanwa joystick and I noticed you were scratching the pCB .... The ground is something I understand but why you scratched the ones at 7:45 if they are inside the ground area?

    Any explain would be great for me! thx!

  • Not sure what you are asking, I "cut" the grounds due to my controller having 2 wires for each move (Left/right/up/down) so I had to seperate them. The sanwa stick comes setup to have common grounds, if you have a common ground pad then you don't need to do this. Hope this answers the question if not let me know and I'll try again. also when you've done yours send me a link.

  • what is the wire called that connected to the pad to the buttons

  • You can use any sort of wire as there is no real power going through them. The Red & Black wire is speaker wire and the green is Kynar solid wire the sort of thing you would use for a door bell. If I did another I would use something different for the green ones as its a single wire it snaps easily (but it still did the job and works fine)

  • thanks man

    i lot

    im trying to make one myself if i run in to anymore problems i might come back to ask

  • hey what kind of wire are using i dont really know anything about this

  • damn man, im on this step right now in my stick build and its confusing as hell. I have an older version controller so the grounds are all very confusin.

    yours was a common ground controller right?

  • No, this also is an older pad I think they are called matrix? If you take 2 wires to every button / switch / contact then you don't have to worry about if it's matrix or common GND. The only difference is you can if you choose to use less wires on the common GND. The way I have done it, I didn't worry about which is Signal or GND because in the end they are just shorting together so my colours don't mean anything they could have been the same colour wires. Hope it helps?

  • thanks man, ima try what you did hopefully it works. I already took off my triggers though, so ima have to use the resistors unfortunately.