I heard another great analogy about the debt ceiling.
"fighting the debt by raising the debt ceiling is like fighting drunk driving by raising the blood alcohol limit." I thought that this explained it well.
The Zeitgeist Movement (TZM) has been showing that we have the ability to generate energy, food, housing, health and education for everyone in the world, while, at the same time, we are able to ELIMINATE OUR ECONOMICAL, SOCIAL & ECOLOGICAL CRISIS along with corruption, poverty, abuse of power, unemployment, social stratification, and other factors that hinder the life and sustainability of the planet and its inhabitants.To know more about it, watch: "Zeitgeist Addendum" - It is on youtube
@FactualSolutions ZEITGEIST IS BULLSHIT, YOU ARE ONLY ENSLAVING YOURSELF !!! COMMUNISM WAS BROUGHT ON TO THE PEOPLE BY THE EXACT SAME WAY. MILLIONS WERE KILLED BY THE GOVTS UNDER THE COMMUNISM REGIME !!
PROOF- Watch this on youtube "The Last Word on Utopia"
@de225221 - Hi there - thanks for the info pal, but...the neither Zeitgeist Movement or a Resource Based Economy have nothing to do with Communism - hahaha - that was funny - check out "Zeitgeist Moving Forward" (just google it)- this the last Zeitgeist Film, released on the Cinemas all over the globe in January - it does clarify some issues and doubts people have about TZM and a RBE.
How many times do you have to be right, b4 people stop calling you a naysayer and a "wet blanket", and start to actually listen to what you are telling them?
A pew research poll published July 16th 2010 states:
In assessing their own political views, 40% of voters describe their own political views as conservative (either conservative or very conservative), 36% as moderate, and 22% as liberal (including very liberal).
America is a center right nation, We need to stop letting the far left destroy America. I don't just mean the Democrats, there are progressive Republicans too. McCain is a prime example of a left leaning RINO.
@DIVERSITYRECESSION3 - hahahahahahahaaha what a great reply. I guess no one can provide any clear proof from an independent source. Good to know the truth.
Strong communities and common sense. We need to start once again.
Short dicks from the top will fail.. You know why? Cause they have certain nature. Scam is gasoline and car has no breaks. They will cheat each other. And that's all.
It's a psychological game. If they will move into war.. It will be end. Car will crash. I bet on straitjackets. Dudes.. look at them now.
to those who cry out 4 armed revolt: don't forget TPTB motto - "ORDER OUT OF CHAOS" - they want u to revolt to justify their coming oppression and further dismantling the constitution
if anyone is reading this you had better be stocking up on goods that you need. we are screwed and we are on our own in this country. we are being raped by our government. we are screwed...
Do the math. 5 trillion dollars spilt up between every last american, would give every single american $12,500. 10 trillion is $25,000 per american. Am I to think that somehow that wouldn't help america more than just giving all the money to bankers and big business? How many millions of americans would that help, $12,500, for every one of the 400,000,000 of us. And do you think one millionaire or billionaire would give 2 sh*ts about $12,500. Lets start thinking about this...
@Guyjharrison they have no intention of building the economy, they had every intention to destroy the economy in order to bring a global economic collapse to pave the way for a one world currency and one world government
@scott0726 Good comment, but the pigs represent greed and demons take form of pigs when they come to take a soul to hell....just a perception from the old wisdom.
I have strange feelings that "the finest bunch" will end with straitjackets and pampers.. In mental institutions.. I don't know why. They don't have integrity.
I wonder whats it like to hang out with Celente. He must be a downer, i mean how can you enjoy an evening out with him? he will probably complain about everything on the way to the club.
I think theres something wrong with my computer. I keep hearing retarded out of time drumming sounds. It's those white shoe boys with their bullets, bombs and banks!
WHILE I AM NOT AS LEARNED, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN I REALIZED WE WERE UNDER "ATTACK" ( and declared bankruptcy) AND THERE WAS A NO WIN SITUATION, I REFERED TO WHATS GOING ON AS "CORPORATE COMMUNISIM"...
@DIVERSITYRECESSION3 . Please provide a link or two to a clear a prediction as I can't seem to find anything. Only consistent clear prediction on Youtube I find is his call for 'The Great Crash of 2010' which was dead wrong.
the real problem is jobs that are now in china and India ,if those jobs don't come back ,the nation cant tax the people and will be forced to borrow or collapse ,so end the wars and put up tariffs and in time the jobs will return and the government can tax people who are working ,there is no other way out and every body knows it , else be ready for the collapse and ensuing civil war ,maybe the hard way is the way it will have to be ,not borrowing is not enough.
@DIVERSITYRECESSION3 His channel or website doesn't help. Looking for a source that he does not stamp. There has gotta be some video out there or publication which has a clear prediction before it happened. Any links to this appreciated.
@11mac11s oh god another person who cant come up with a creative name and think for himself... tell me something does the 11in your name stand for your IQ number or how many man-jerkys your mom can fit in her mouth at once?
Sell our weapons to our allies, except a few rifles for our Guard and maybe the debt will look smaller... Clinton did it w/o collapsing democracy. End the Fed and get out of Wall St. then stop supporting the military-industrial complex... lets stop building the empire and start rebuilding the Republic.
@threepercenter03 I wish that were possible, but just like Rome(i.e. transfer from a republic to an empire) there is no turning back. Where like the Roman Empire on Steroids.
@threepercenter03 Clinton did what? sell military secrets to our enemies? He allowed the sale of missile technology to China, don't you remember? If you're talking about the budget surplus, you only need to investigate to see that the surplus occured when the conservatives took control of congress and reigned in spending.. It was called welfare reform. Don't waste everyones time by pointing out that Repubs spent too much too. I was talking about conservatives, not the RINO's that overspent.
@intrepidorator ok. If you have a difference of opinion, share it; you know of a mistake I made, explain... but don't just sling mud, it kills the message and needlessly changes the subject.
@threepercenter03 OK.. the mistake that I noticed was your defese of Clinton. I explained why I thought it was wrong in my original post. From my point of view, you admitted that you made a mistake in your memory of history and I apologized for pointing out your error. Now for some reason you want to bring it up again, I don't know why you couldn't let it end where it should have.
@intrepidorator WTF are you babbling about? Where did I bring it up again? Clinton, as many agreed with my comment, did more good then harm by down-sizing the military; that's the intention of my comment... and who's to say what should be discussed and when it should end? Thought-police? Share your thoughts, but don't dictate the content of discussion.
@threepercenter03 Thought police?. I think that you must be mixing up my posts with someone else. I never mentioned the thought police. You might have been talking about downsizing the military. We can debate all day about the negative results of Clintons decrease in military spending. Many people agree that Clintons downsizing of the military allowed groups like Al-Queada to flourish and resulted in the 9-11 attacks.
@intrepidorator You have just revealed at what level I must lower myself to debate the 9/11 attacks and who is Al Q. The CIA has been meddling for years in other folks politics and once in a while it'll come back to bite us in the arse... we cannot attack a sovereign country w/o first knowing our true enemy, period.
@threepercenter03 Hold on, you stated that clinton did it w/o collapsing democracy. I even let the democracy statement go without correcting you. but saying that discussing 911 and al-queada somehow lowers the level of debate is ignorant. My reply to your assertion that clintons cutting defense had no ill effects is that it might have led to the strengthening of Al-queada. Do you dispute this?
BTW America is not a democracy, America is a representative republic. ON PURPOSE.
@intrepidorator Tomato-tomahto.... a representative republic is democracy; ur splitting hairs. 9/11 was sold to us sheeple as Muslim vs. Christian propaganda; it's more questionable then UFOs and religion... you wanna argue CIA false flags/state sponsored terrorism? That's another can o' worms u probably can't swallow either, so I won't even get into it with u.
@threepercenter03 NO nNO NO. they are 2 distinct and different types of government. Ben Franklin himself said that a democracy is just the tyranny of the majority.He described democracy as "2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner".the founding fathers knew that a representative republic was far better than a direct democracy. I have done some research into 9-11, popular mechanics did an interesting study that shoots down the conspiracy theories about 9-11.
@intrepidorator Pop Mechs has been "outed" as a shill of psuedo-science, like the global warming scheme; they washed over facts to help sell the Bush lie... who owns Pop Mechs? A Republic is a form of Democracy, to split hairs just diverts the conversation... it doesn't make you sound smarter to appoint urself as 'ombudsman' of youtube. Democracy is majority rules; Republic is appointed representatives to vote on behalf of the populace. Two sides of a coin.
@threepercenter03 Why do you feel the need to lie and discredit those that prove you wrong. get over yourself and listen to those that know what their talking about, stop drinking the truther koolaid.
@intrepidorator When ur lies fall flat, you revert to mudslinging... typical. I don't have to even study anything relating to 9/11 to defend the trruth; it's so obvious a simple fire wouldn't melt the building into a CD style implosion... you need to rethink ur approach; attacking those who don't buy the lie, doesn't prove Bush was right.
@intrepidorator Listen shill, you are the only one who is denying facts and evidence; your theory of 9/11 is so far from truth it left the o-zone years ago... go play with your GI Joes and leave the adults alone to talk rationally. I and many others have heard enough of your ridiculous banter about fake terrorists outsmarting the greatest defense dept in the world. You're so convinced they did it, why aren't you over there, fighting, instead of here, trolling?
@threepercenter03 LOL shill.. typical.. false but typical.. Yeah .. Ok Im the ridiculous one.. lol @ u. Its so much more likely that the government snuck in and planted explosives and hypnitized the public into believing that they saw jets fly into the twin towers. OK,, go back into mommy's basement and smoke another bowl fool.
The truth is that terrorists hijacked planes and flew them into the WTC.
@intrepidorator Your petty mudslinging is a sign you have nothing to back your story and trying to prove a lie is harder then finding an honest politician... stick to whatever you're good at, like sniffing glue, but stay off forums that require intelligent, free thought... you can't say anything original and it makes you look really sad.
@threepercenter03 WHAAT.. lmao. I have hours of news coverage to prove that it happened. You need to leave intelligent debate to those of us with a higher IQ than you. You should do yourself a favor and stay on those crazy conspiracy sites, whre the fools will believe you without proof.
@intrepidorator Once again, you don't state facts, you just regurgitate liberal news... which folded, as far as investigative reporting goes. Fact: buildings don't collapse into their own footprint by heat of fire. Proof: engineers have demonstrated more then once... the WTC was the first time in history and not since then has it happenbed either; but you will believe what you're told by the govt that dropped the ball that day? Silly little man, go play outside... the fresh air will do you good.
@threepercenter03 Wrong, your facts are lies. Haven't you ever watched a planned demolition? The blasts always start at the bottom and go up. The puffs of air that you saw and imagined were small charges going off were puffs of air being forced out as the floor above it collapsed. ...lmao@you. Yes the WTC was the first and last time that a jetliner was used to take down a building. Stupid little fool. The heat from avgas WEAKENED the steel beams enough to allow the collapse. you need a nap kid.
@intrepidorator My facts are from science and engineering experts; yours are just Bush talking points... laugh all you want, ass-hat, but you're the fool.
@threepercenter03 LOL.. yeah the swearing and name calling really points out that you have the truth on your side. Why do kids always want to swear, I guess its a manifestation of their maturity level and lack of vocabulary...lmao@u
@threepercenter03 Ok.. heres a little homework for you. Watch every video of a controlled demolition that you can find. Watch how every single one is demolished from the ground up. Not 1 example of controlled demolition looks like WTC. WTC fell from the point of impact down. This is not how demolition is done. This is what is expected by a collapse, not a demolition.
@intrepidorator Ok...here's alittle homework for you, shill... read some history books; govts have been caught with their hand in the cookie-jar before; govts often are responsible for their own downfall; wars are more often a business deal rather then national defense. Stop with the Bush talking points already, they've been exhausted and never proved worth their weight in shit.
@threepercenter03 Listen. I'm not a govt man. I want the smallest, weakest govt possible. But the facts don't lie. the WTC fell because of the planes flown into the buildings. There were no explosives, period..
@intrepidorator The facts? What facts? You are stating Bush's lie as facts... those aren't facts; the facts are buildings don't collapse from fire; the molten puddles in the basement and those seen dripping from the uppper floors below the impact zone scream demolitions... if you're going to throw facts around, be sure they're facts and not neo-con talking points.
@threepercenter03 *sigh*.. The fact that there is no evidence of a demolition.. NONE.. There are videos of the planes hitting the WTC and the pentagon. This is a fact. There is debris that proves that they were planes that hit those buildings. This is fact. The video of the collapse shows a collapse not a demolition, just watch every singe video of a demolition and compare. It is obviously a collapse. It started where the planes hit and went down. Demolitions start at ground level and go up.
@threepercenter03 Now if you're willing to engage your brain, we can continue.. If you really want to blame the govt for (-11, you could at least make up a believable conspiracy theory, like.. the terrorists were really CIA plants that flew the planes into the building.. this at least isn't as easily disproven as the ridiculous controlled demolition stupidity.
@intrepidorator "the ridiculous controlled demolition stupidity"... the fact that it's proven on video that molten steel was found, explosions were heard and evidence was removed from the crime scene, it was tampered with; but you still believe it's exactly as Bush said, leads anyone who can think, to conclude you're a waste of time to discuss anything with. Enjoy living with ur head in the sand.
@threepercenter03 Really, lmao, so .*snicker* when did Bush go and plant these explosives.. *chuckle*... There was nothing at the scene of the collapse that was not consistent with a collapsed building that was burning with jet fuel.. absolutely nothing.. I know that you like to imagine that you're smarter than everyone else and that you and a few others have secret information, but you don't. Its this simple. Islamic extremists hijacked airplanes and flew them into the WTC, and they collapsed
@intrepidorator Retarded comments proves you're not smart *snicker**chuckle**snort* Do you also believe in Santa, the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny? Why are you afraid to open your eyes and look at the evidence presented? The news never investigated, only reported what the White House told them... EPIC FAIL. I'll never buy the Bush lie, so just quit while you're behind.
@threepercenter03 I've told you about the evidence that proves the buildings fell due to the airplanes, I provided a source (popular mechanics). You have provided no source for your propaganda. Your wrong, I am right. it's just that simple. Ive proven it you can't prove your conspiracy theory because it didn't happen the way you imagine. Talk about a fool believing in santa clause, thats you.. *chortle* *giggle* *laugh out loud holding my sides.. what a fool u r.
Google '9/11;WTC;Inside Job' any combination of those will bring up videos of eyewitness accounts; stuff that didn't make it to lame-stream media. You are a classic, closed-minded %^&*. You don't present facts, you regurgitate liberal media sound bites and neo-con talking points. FAIL
@threepercenter03 I present facts while you present hear say and paranoid speculation. You haven't looked at the popular mechanics debunking study. If you had you would understand the truth. LMAO @ u.. wow Im both a conservative and a liberal., you're logic continues to fail you.. Good luck in the future...lol
@intrepidorator Are your parents related?I never said you were a liberal and/or conservative; but you use those angles; both sides dismiss truth with scripted answers. Why won't you answer who owns Pop Mech?You just use an article by a magazine... not a credible investigation source.
Eyewitnesses on video have debunked Bush's lie before he even went on air...
FDNY stated bombs going off; WTC employees witnessed construction crews before 9/11; video shows an implosion, not a collapse by fire.
@threepercenter03 Sheesh. popular mechanics is a reliable source, you make outragous claims that it isn't but provide no source that contradicts them. Show me any reliable group that has investigated and found proof of explosives. No explosives were planted there NONE. and don't try the old thermites are present scam. You may learn something if you go to w ww . debunking911 . com/
@intrepidorator Answer this: Why was the scene cleaned out and the metal given to China so quickly? Why was the scene not properly investigated for evidence? Bush and his ilk already knew what happened, no investigation was necessary or could take place. What happened to all the equipment and money from the banks and offices inside WTC? The Pentagon lost valuable computers that day; info about missing budget money was in there... what about that angle of 9/11? You can't lie forever shill.
@threepercenter03 *sigh, it took years to clean up the scene, thats not very quick. Your statement that it was not properly investigated is your opinion, it has no basis in fact. Everything that you claim is not only unprovable, it is also irrelevent. LMAO.. the most ridiculous claim to date.. "what happened to all the money and equipment?" LOL it was destroyed.. remember??? C'MON loon, use your head for once.
@intrepidorator You simply make up "facts"... the whole scenario stinks and you can't admit this is beyond a simple explanation from Bush. I once believed it was terrorists; then the hate and adrenaline and fear wore off and I opened my eyes. Sometimes I feel it would be easier not to, but they'll keep doing it to us. You enable corruption and lies b/c you won't accept truth and won't wake up from the American Dream. I'd rather be a "loon", then a sheep like you. Sheep are slaughtered.
@intrepidorator who owns Popular Mechanics? WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER? To get an honest, investigative report of 9/11, the reporter has to be biased and not scared to lose his job or his life.
Who owns Popular Mechanics? The media failed to investigate 9/11; they simply told us the lies and later, they came out and admitted "Iraq wouldn't have happened if they had asked the tough questions". FACT
@threepercenter03 I don't care who owns popular mechanics, I'm sure that you have a conspiracy theory to explain why the engineers at PM found that 911 was not caused by explosives. BTW, Iraq had nothing to do with the 911 attacks, that was the afghanistan war. Iraq was fought because intelligence agencies thought Saddaam had WMD's. I wish you conspiracy nuts would get your conspiracies straight. Look, I'll just keep pointing out the facts and you'll keep saying my facts are wrong without proof.
@threepercenter03 Are you asking who owns PM, because you don't know the answer? It doesn't matter who owns PM. Unless it is owned by the taliban or al-queada, the owner is irrelevent.
@intrepidorator That biased piece of tripe they call investigative journalism stinks of arrogance and shill propaganda!!! You based your whole argument on that? I couldn't pass the first paragraph w/o gagging on the stink... "1st impression is a lasting impression" is true; if they come off that pompous and closed-minded, then how can the rest of the article be fair and balanced news? A journalist should not slander others, which appears to be the purpose of the article. EPIC FAIL, AGAIN
@threepercenter03 C'mon, I have asked you so many times for your source of information, you have provided nothing. At least admit that you're just making this BS up. Either provide a reputable source or move on to some idiot that you might be able to convince of your conspiracy theory without any evidence or proof. I rely on scientific evidence provided by actual people. You have provided no evidence, only accusations without proof or sources.
@intrepidorator The standard shill propaganda spin to get out of acknowledging your lies are see-thru and the truth is stranger then fiction is to ask me for proof, when the proof can be googled; you expect me to give you every name and link, rather then you google search the info available... if I can't name names, then I'm "lying". FAIL The videos are up and running; search, instead of trolling.
@threepercenter03 LOL.. NO.. I expect you to provide 1 strand of evidence to back up your preposerous claim. You have not, and you can not, because no evidence exists. I have produced 2 reputable sources for evidence that the WTC collapsed due to jetliners being flown into them. If you used your head for something other that a place to put a hat, yu'd wonder why you can't find any reputable publication, or engineering organization to back up your ridiculous conspiracy theory.
@intrepidorator You expect me to? What is this English class, you're teacher, I am student? LOL. Google it, shill. It's really simple. So easy, a caveman could do it. PROOF has never been about naming names online... that's a cop-out for you to dismiss proof; make me name the source from memory. FAIL. A number of credible videos have surfaced in the past ten years; PopMech's article is fascist trash... they spun Bush's story, not investigated the truth. You're an obvious shill.
@threepercenter03 OMG.. Are you seriously going to sit there and say the naming names and actually naming sources ahs nothiing to do with the truth. Your major failure in this debate, and I suspect in your own life, is that you WNT to believe what the conspiracy nuts post on their blogs. They provide no proof of their claims either, then you and the other blogisphere nuts go out believeing lies and when proof is required, you don't have it, because it never existed in the first place. pitiful...
@intrepidorator Shill, you have nothing... videos are available, showing the buildings collapse demolition style; material has been seen that is by-product of demolitions; explosions were heard and reported by the FDNY and WTC workers inside; pilots question the whole day; engineers question it... only you and a handful of shills still argue it's a building fire that brought down buildings designed to withstand impacts such as planes. FAIL
@threepercenter03 Typical left wing loon talk. I provide evidence and a source, you provide nothing but claim that I am the one without evidence. Go back to your job at move on . org and let those of us with a brain do the thinking for you. K kid.
@intrepidorator What evidence? You used a magazine article and you have failed to do anything but regurgitate the lame Bush excuse about what happened, and why, on 9/11... present a fact as solid as demolitions take down buildings, not fires and maybe you can stand up to an argument. Witnesses saw molten metal which is a byproduct of demolitions; explosions were heard; construction crews before 9/11 were seen inside the WTC... a whole list against your one article by P.M.
@intrepidorator Do you know that 9/11 is not the first time that date is significant with terrorism? The US under Nixon supported a coup d'etat in Chile, Sept. 11, 1973; Kissinger was linked to that and had to step down from the 9/11 commision... truth is ugly, better to stick with ur lame fantasy of good guys vs bad guys.
@threepercenter03 Sept 17th 1978 was also the date of the signing of the camp David accords (historic peace accords forged in 1978 between Israel and Egypt) It is very likely that this was a consideration to the terrorists when choosing the date of the attack.
@intrepidorator Take a look at the pictures of the Towers; see where they were hit? Then factor in how many floors beneath the impact point, the fire wouldn't weaken the beams all the way into the basement; anyone who believes that has never dealt with fire, metal or reality. Read 'The Daily Beast' Richard Clarke interview 'A CIA 9/11 Cover Up?'; It sheds some more light on govt failure despite knowledge... deal with reality before tackling complex issues like false flags such as 9/11.
@threepercenter03 now we're finally discussing it.. You're right, the beams weren't weakened all of the way down, it was the weight of the floors above crashing down on the lower floors that caused them to collapse. All that had to happen was for 2 or 3 floors to weaken enough to start the collapse, then the weight crashing down was enough to continue the collapse. Its simple engineering, watch the collapse look at where it started, the collapse began at the impact point.
@threepercenter03 Thats hilarious, Richard Clarke stated that one of the terrorists had a U.S. passport, and that the CIA didnt forward the intel. Nothinbg in this interview says anything about the magical explosives that appeared in your conspiracy building. How can you believe in the terrorists and still believe in the controlled demolition. How does logic work in your crazy world? I guess you think that the demolition experts knew to start the demolition on the floor of impact. What a stretch
@intrepidorator Someone, like myself, who has a brain, military training and can read and understand history can decypher the concept of a 'false flag'; the greatest intelligence agency and military didn't "screw up" other then to stand down by orders of a higher power... you are better off to remain in fantasy-land where your feeble mind can idle calmly and never have to get out of first gear. Go play outside, the fresh air and sun will do you good.
@threepercenter03 Listen my 6 years in the Army, my college education, and my 124 IQ can easily defeat your outrageous claims when you provide absolutely no evidence from any reliable sources. You need to look at the 2 sources that I have provided that disprove the demolition claims. there were no explosives planted in the WTC. None, it didn't happen. Anyone with a brain can understand this. Stop drinking the kool aid. look at the evidence with an unbiased mind and you'll see the truth.
@intrepidorator "my 6 years in the Army, my college education, and my 124 IQ" - proves you're indoctrinated into the system, unable to think for yourself - "can easily defeat your outrageous claims" I didn't claim anything; it's in news footage, live interviews, not bogus articles in a hack-shill magazine. I don't have to prove to you, the prooof is out there and can't be debunked by shills like you. FAIL
@threepercenter03 Thats funny, Listen, you have produced no evidence at all to support your claims. Its as simple as that. If the proof is out there, you can show it to us. If its not out there, you can continue to spout your nonsense and show no proof. Just like you've done all along. And by the way, when you say "FAIL" after your posts, it proves that you're just a kid with no education or knowledge of the subject.
@intrepidorator Your a horrible shill... the proof is all over the net; but only someone with a brain can understand that. You brought up one article in a crummy magazine; there's more videos then you can tolerate watching... stereotyping me because I use FAIL, which is a fun way of calling you a loser, is typical of your kind. You're a joke, no matter what you say in your defense, it just adds fuel to the fire... why don't you just collapse into your footprint?
@threepercenter03 Every statement that you make shows that you have no evidence to prove your ridulous theories. I have linked you to 2 sources that disprove your stupid controlled demolition theory. You provided me with 1 link that showed a man saying that the CIA knew that 1 of the hijackers had a passport. You have provided no evidence of explosives being present, instead all you have done is make crazy charges against me. You should just leave the thinking to those of us equipped for it. LOL
@intrepidorator I can't count the number of times a shill has thought he proved 9/11 by claiming my lack of evidence... IT'S ON THE NET. How difficult is it for you to google-search it? Videos are everywhere, by multiple sources... it's news footage and private citizen's cameras. You used 1 questionable article by a magazine... give it a rest, shill, you have NOTHING.
@threepercenter03 What makes everyone else laugh so hard at you is that you actually think that you have made a single valid point. You have shown no evidence, you haven't even provided a single link that has any evidence that explosives were even present at the site of the collapse. If it is easy to google it, then send me the google searches that convinced you of a controlled demolition. I have provided 2 links to you that disprove it, I can find many more. You are the one with nothing.
@intrepidorator So, your argument for 9/11 is that I won't send you links, when the videos are available for you to watch... you can't type in '9/11' or 'WTC' or 'Bldg what?' but you can troll this site all day? No one's laughing at the truth, but we are laughing at you sheepish shills. You can live in your fantasy world where govt is your friend, your provider, your protector, but that doesn't change reality... how's life with your head in the sand?
@threepercenter03 No, My point is that I have watched all of those conspiracy theory videos and found them all to be without evidence. I have shown you 2 of the many links to evidence that debunks the crazy theory that our govt planted explosives on the WTC and set them off after the planes were flown into them by terrorists. There is no evidence of explosives being present. None, What about "no evidence" can you not understand. You can go ahead and be a conspiracy nut, but I require proof..
@intrepidorator You have not presented proof, you mentioned one article that was so slanderous that it couldn't be an unbiased piece, but neo-con spin to discredit anyone who would question how planes brought down three buildings in identical manner when the buildings were designed for such catastrophes. Video footage shows columns were sheared in a 45 degree angle and the beams were removed and sold to China before investigated... too many loose ends to believe your Bush B.S.
@threepercenter03 OMG.. I can't believe that you brought up the 45 degree angle sheers on the columns, They were cut with cutting torches during the clean up/ recovery. Look at the pictures. WOW you're too lame for words.
@intrepidorator That's what they told you after it was discovered... you believed it, like a good shill. Still haven't debunked the molten metal seen dripping from the impact zone and pooled in the basement. Can't come up with a lie for that?
@threepercenter03 Yes the molen metal was from the cutting torches, wow you keep bringing up the same stupid stuff that has been debunked easily. You're mind is weak and you're delusional. 911 was terrorists hijacking planes and flying them into buildings, that is all it was. Everyone with an IQ over 100 knows it, The fact that you are unable to understand simple physics is why you're a conspiracy nut. Every thing that you have mentioned has been debunked, you're a simple minded fool.
@intrepidorator What a schmuck... you "debunk" things by spinning stories that are so absurd only children and simpltons believe it; the molten metal was seen as the buildings were still burning and detected with heat-sensitive equip. before the clean-up crews were on site... FAILED AGAIN The "IQ over a 100" is your theory, no actual facts back that up... just spewing more and more shill propaganda. LMFAO@U
@intrepidorator You choose to ignore the videos available for all to see and stick with a lame story made up by those who were/are responsible... Al Q. is a CIA patsy; fires didn't destroy 100+ floors, twice and WTC7; the planes were to justify the wars that followed. Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods, WTC '93 attack, OKC, underwear bomber, are just some famous 'false flags'. No matter what I say, you'll deny it... don't believe me? then go away.
@threepercenter03 NO.. idiot, the fireman said that it could have been electrical explosions, from the and the so called 911 truthers never use the complete quote. He said " I don't know if that means anything. I mean, I equate it to the building cowing down and pushing things down, it could have been electrical explosions, it could have been whatever. " Look you're brainwashed into believing what they want you to believe. I'll believe what I saw with my own eyes and the engineers that know. bye
@intrepidorator BYE is what you say when you've lost the argument, but don't care to admit you're wrong and apologize... you can't back up your story with facts; it's all shill lies... No firefighter said "it could have been electrical explosions as the building collapsed". That's pure spin to hide the fact that demos were used to weaken the structure to allow the buildings to fall, enraging the public and allowing war in Iraq, as Bush wanted since before 9/11. SHILL FAIL.
@intrepidorator You said: "I want the smallest, weakest govt possible." Then you say:"We can debate all day about the negative results of Clintons decrease in military spending. Many people agree that Clintons downsizing of the military allowed groups like Al-Queada to flourish and resulted in the 9-11 attacks." WHICH IS IT? You support big govt or don't? Confused little shill, quit already... you can't remember which lie you are using.
@threepercenter03 LMAO @u. umm... military is not govt. listen, the facts don't support your little conspiracy theory. Only a small minded conspiracy nut believes that Bush had anything to do with 9-11. There is no evidence to suport this stupid theory. We all saw the jets fly into the WTC. (-11 truthers are the only group dumb enough to forget what they saw with their own eyes and believe a wild conspiracy theory about it being a controlled demolition. I pity those of you that can't get it.
@intrepidorator "military is not govt. listen, the facts don't support your little conspiracy theory" 1. the military is govt (DOD). 2. the facts don't support the lie, hence the conspiracy theory... duh! The fact that buildings don't fall down as WTC did w/o assisstance is sign that they planned it's collapse... you are in shill denial, and you appear dumber then dumb. Dismissing everyone who thinks for themself as 'nuts', 'small minded', 'stupid', 'dumb', 'wild', only proves you're sheep.
ending the fed wont be enough. private banking has to be ended completly because all those 'financial products' are not products at all they are simply hot air created out of hot air.
Add a direct democracy to the senate where the senators write bills and people vote on them publicly. this will make bills shorter and more understandable, more people will vote as the main reason people dont vote or get involved now because they are too lazy, and best of all it will eliminate fraud as the results (taken by state) will be verifyable by anyone in that state's system. We dont expect our senators to vote privately so why should we. END THE FED!
The party is over. There will no agreement among our politicians, the president will signed an executive order to increase the debt limit by 2 trillions. PM will go to the moon. Watch and see
The party is over. There will no agreemet among our politicians, the president will signed an executive order to increase the debt limit by 2 trillions. PM will go to the moon. Watch and see
I heard another great analogy about the debt ceiling.
"fighting the debt by raising the debt ceiling is like fighting drunk driving by raising the blood alcohol limit." I thought that this explained it well.
intrepidorator 6 months ago 2
The Zeitgeist Movement (TZM) has been showing that we have the ability to generate energy, food, housing, health and education for everyone in the world, while, at the same time, we are able to ELIMINATE OUR ECONOMICAL, SOCIAL & ECOLOGICAL CRISIS along with corruption, poverty, abuse of power, unemployment, social stratification, and other factors that hinder the life and sustainability of the planet and its inhabitants.To know more about it, watch: "Zeitgeist Addendum" - It is on youtube
:)
FS
FactualSolutions 6 months ago
@FactualSolutions ZEITGEIST IS BULLSHIT, YOU ARE ONLY ENSLAVING YOURSELF !!! COMMUNISM WAS BROUGHT ON TO THE PEOPLE BY THE EXACT SAME WAY. MILLIONS WERE KILLED BY THE GOVTS UNDER THE COMMUNISM REGIME !!
PROOF- Watch this on youtube "The Last Word on Utopia"
de225221 6 months ago
@de225221 - Hi there - thanks for the info pal, but...the neither Zeitgeist Movement or a Resource Based Economy have nothing to do with Communism - hahaha - that was funny - check out "Zeitgeist Moving Forward" (just google it)- this the last Zeitgeist Film, released on the Cinemas all over the globe in January - it does clarify some issues and doubts people have about TZM and a RBE.
All the best pal
:)
FS
FactualSolutions 6 months ago
How many times do you have to be right, b4 people stop calling you a naysayer and a "wet blanket", and start to actually listen to what you are telling them?
JRMCNEA 6 months ago
Self storage unit was real...CPS went and took the guys kids
Charmer4856 7 months ago
A pew research poll published July 16th 2010 states:
In assessing their own political views, 40% of voters describe their own political views as conservative (either conservative or very conservative), 36% as moderate, and 22% as liberal (including very liberal).
America is a center right nation, We need to stop letting the far left destroy America. I don't just mean the Democrats, there are progressive Republicans too. McCain is a prime example of a left leaning RINO.
intrepidorator 7 months ago
@ditendo
LOL. Some people actually will take you seriously.
gigiontube 7 months ago
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Real enemy of Greece, Europe & America - Jew
Goldman Sachs CEO, Lyold Blankfein is Jew
Deustche Bank CEO, Yosef Ackermann is Jew
IMF Deputy CEO, John Lisky is Jew
Ex IMF CEO, Dominic Strauss is Jew
World Bank CEO, Robert Zoellick is Jew
Fed Chairman, Ben Bernanke is Jew
Ex Fed Chairman, Alan Greenspan is Jew
Obama Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner is Jew
George Bush Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson is Jew
Stevie68000 7 months ago
Great insights. He's right Mussolini defined fascism as the merger of state and corporation.
Not sure about his differentiation of fasicism and socialism though.
Communism is not the only form of socialism.
Isn't Nazism by definition National Socialism?
Even social democracies proclaim to be hybrids of a "free market" and socialist economy.
gbreuder 7 months ago
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gbreuder 7 months ago
@DIVERSITYRECESSION3 - hahahahahahahaaha what a great reply. I guess no one can provide any clear proof from an independent source. Good to know the truth.
frank299 7 months ago
Strong communities and common sense. We need to start once again.
Short dicks from the top will fail.. You know why? Cause they have certain nature. Scam is gasoline and car has no breaks. They will cheat each other. And that's all.
It's a psychological game. If they will move into war.. It will be end. Car will crash. I bet on straitjackets. Dudes.. look at them now.
They will loose direction.
pitergoss 7 months ago 3
to those who cry out 4 armed revolt: don't forget TPTB motto - "ORDER OUT OF CHAOS" - they want u to revolt to justify their coming oppression and further dismantling the constitution
soit25 7 months ago
Seriously...Where's your revolution?? Egypt Style??? You're being sold out. This looming default looks deliberate.
Gr8barriereefer 7 months ago
if anyone is reading this you had better be stocking up on goods that you need. we are screwed and we are on our own in this country. we are being raped by our government. we are screwed...
tonytonytee 7 months ago
Do the math. 5 trillion dollars spilt up between every last american, would give every single american $12,500. 10 trillion is $25,000 per american. Am I to think that somehow that wouldn't help america more than just giving all the money to bankers and big business? How many millions of americans would that help, $12,500, for every one of the 400,000,000 of us. And do you think one millionaire or billionaire would give 2 sh*ts about $12,500. Lets start thinking about this...
Guyjharrison 7 months ago
@Guyjharrison they have no intention of building the economy, they had every intention to destroy the economy in order to bring a global economic collapse to pave the way for a one world currency and one world government
ToxicDreamer 7 months ago 2
Should be Satan instead of a pig... just saying.
scott0726 7 months ago
@scott0726 Good comment, but the pigs represent greed and demons take form of pigs when they come to take a soul to hell....just a perception from the old wisdom.
armandocampo5 7 months ago
@armandocampo5 We seriously need a revolution lol
scott0726 7 months ago 2
What Pig?
Kontaktt 7 months ago
I have strange feelings that "the finest bunch" will end with straitjackets and pampers.. In mental institutions.. I don't know why. They don't have integrity.
pitergoss 7 months ago
hello? does anyone really think they plan to save the economy???
zionazis took down ussr now they gonna take down us.
gerald is right, but look: they control 95% of mainstream media, why can't thay control alternative sources? same percentage.
obvious thing
soit25 7 months ago
@soit25 because alternative sources have integrity.... thats why the Nazionists can't control alternative media.... :P
ToxicDreamer 7 months ago
@ToxicDreamer hello again? have u heard of cointelpro? people are the same in the mainstream and alternative (money talks).
soit25 7 months ago
gerald just makes my day!!!
obarelida 7 months ago 2
@obarelida agreed
88roro11 7 months ago
Hey ive got an idea, how about the US brings all of its troops home and dumps the entire military budget onto the national debt
TheBrradsullivan 7 months ago 5
@TheBrradsullivan Yep, you don't need to be a genius to this figure out.
goldengyrl2010 7 months ago
This silly pig reminds of silly drawings of the bible's beast for some reason.
But nah =p Jerry Celente, as usual, dead on.
MrSayanshaka 7 months ago
Put Mr Celente in charge of the US ecomony. The world needs this man more than ever....
MDreadedTV 7 months ago
regarding the cartoon.. maybe it's time to remove the PIG
inbetweentics 7 months ago
I got two words for you all, Glass-Stegall! it would bring the criminal bankers to their knees!
rich111272 7 months ago 2
@rich111272 the bankers are the government... >.<
ToxicDreamer 7 months ago
whats the opening song?
rogertayloRRR 7 months ago
@11mac11s didnt answer the question... which is it?
deshaebeasley 7 months ago
Obama is trying to fool us by telling us that we are getting out of the recession.
RichGonzalezVerona 7 months ago
I wonder whats it like to hang out with Celente. He must be a downer, i mean how can you enjoy an evening out with him? he will probably complain about everything on the way to the club.
xardas411 7 months ago
@xardas411 Celente has said plenty of funny stuff, but the news isn't always puppies and rainbows.
threepercenter03 7 months ago 2
That pig looks done! poke the pig! lol
Armahx 7 months ago
I think theres something wrong with my computer. I keep hearing retarded out of time drumming sounds. It's those white shoe boys with their bullets, bombs and banks!
troglodyte3344 7 months ago
economic 9-11.........LMFAOOOOOOOooooooooooo !! who is he trying to sell this crap to ? oh yea , you guys !!
PREPAREORSUFFER 7 months ago
I LOVE Gerald Celente!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rudemood2011 7 months ago 2
Obama is a leader ..hahaha..Yes we can ....
liderlider 7 months ago
@liderlider "yes we can shuv that red white and blue dildo up your ass 10 feet deeper! yes we can! yes we can!"
ToxicDreamer 7 months ago
WHILE I AM NOT AS LEARNED, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN I REALIZED WE WERE UNDER "ATTACK" ( and declared bankruptcy) AND THERE WAS A NO WIN SITUATION, I REFERED TO WHATS GOING ON AS "CORPORATE COMMUNISIM"...
HIKIXS1 7 months ago
@DIVERSITYRECESSION3 . Please provide a link or two to a clear a prediction as I can't seem to find anything. Only consistent clear prediction on Youtube I find is his call for 'The Great Crash of 2010' which was dead wrong.
Thanks.
frank299 7 months ago
the real problem is jobs that are now in china and India ,if those jobs don't come back ,the nation cant tax the people and will be forced to borrow or collapse ,so end the wars and put up tariffs and in time the jobs will return and the government can tax people who are working ,there is no other way out and every body knows it , else be ready for the collapse and ensuing civil war ,maybe the hard way is the way it will have to be ,not borrowing is not enough.
cassanoa 7 months ago
that drum shit is so fucking annoying
windofthegods 7 months ago 3
WAKE UP! watch?v=moPclPJ0Kp4
HisCircus 7 months ago
It's time to start eating politicians, theyr'e the only source of food that is not nuclear radioactive or soaked in oil
ToxicDreamer 7 months ago 2
what is this
Tommy4216 7 months ago
@DIVERSITYRECESSION3 His channel or website doesn't help. Looking for a source that he does not stamp. There has gotta be some video out there or publication which has a clear prediction before it happened. Any links to this appreciated.
frank299 7 months ago
WTF is this the best of Celente?
milkywaycenter 7 months ago
Can anyone provide any proof of his predictions. Not 'hear say'. A simple link to an actual clear prediction before it happened.
frank299 7 months ago
you guys should thank me, i just saved all your lives because i killed a shit eating dog
gordy1957 7 months ago
@gordy1957 what are you talking about idiot
cassanoa 7 months ago
the debt ceiling is a non issue. it does not matter.
Bernie Sanders said in 3 years, Obama has stolen 17 Trillion dollars
and they are talking 300 Billion in cuts? Wow! big deal.
we need GLASS STEAGALL right now.
GLASS STEAGALL NOW.
biozamadotcom 7 months ago 4
@biozamadotcom the real problem is those wars. hey are expensive and unproductive. but do you have the choice?
MsH1h1h1h1 7 months ago
@MsH1h1h1h1 No choice. Wars, bailouts, NAFTA,....no choice.
biozamadotcom 7 months ago
@11mac11s oh god another person who cant come up with a creative name and think for himself... tell me something does the 11in your name stand for your IQ number or how many man-jerkys your mom can fit in her mouth at once?
deshaebeasley 7 months ago
when the oracle speaks people better listen
voxna 7 months ago 2
@11mac11s Oh god, another shill to discredit the free thinking voters who support liberty.
threepercenter03 7 months ago
@threepercenter03 I hear that, You told that person like it is, LOL.
vic4rp 7 months ago
Sell our weapons to our allies, except a few rifles for our Guard and maybe the debt will look smaller... Clinton did it w/o collapsing democracy. End the Fed and get out of Wall St. then stop supporting the military-industrial complex... lets stop building the empire and start rebuilding the Republic.
threepercenter03 7 months ago 36
@threepercenter03 here here
mlmr11 7 months ago
@threepercenter03 I wish that were possible, but just like Rome(i.e. transfer from a republic to an empire) there is no turning back. Where like the Roman Empire on Steroids.
prappypat 7 months ago
@threepercenter03 Yes, the de jure Republic is back - all it needs is support - see republicfortheunitedstates (dot) org
WreakingHavoc1 7 months ago
@threepercenter03 Clinton did what? sell military secrets to our enemies? He allowed the sale of missile technology to China, don't you remember? If you're talking about the budget surplus, you only need to investigate to see that the surplus occured when the conservatives took control of congress and reigned in spending.. It was called welfare reform. Don't waste everyones time by pointing out that Repubs spent too much too. I was talking about conservatives, not the RINO's that overspent.
intrepidorator 7 months ago
@intrepidorator I'm wasting ur time? Yet you have the time to write and bitch my memory of history is off... sniff-sniff.
threepercenter03 7 months ago
@threepercenter03 My apologies.
intrepidorator 7 months ago
@intrepidorator ok. If you have a difference of opinion, share it; you know of a mistake I made, explain... but don't just sling mud, it kills the message and needlessly changes the subject.
threepercenter03 7 months ago
@threepercenter03 OK.. the mistake that I noticed was your defese of Clinton. I explained why I thought it was wrong in my original post. From my point of view, you admitted that you made a mistake in your memory of history and I apologized for pointing out your error. Now for some reason you want to bring it up again, I don't know why you couldn't let it end where it should have.
intrepidorator 7 months ago
@intrepidorator WTF are you babbling about? Where did I bring it up again? Clinton, as many agreed with my comment, did more good then harm by down-sizing the military; that's the intention of my comment... and who's to say what should be discussed and when it should end? Thought-police? Share your thoughts, but don't dictate the content of discussion.
threepercenter03 7 months ago
@threepercenter03 Thought police?. I think that you must be mixing up my posts with someone else. I never mentioned the thought police. You might have been talking about downsizing the military. We can debate all day about the negative results of Clintons decrease in military spending. Many people agree that Clintons downsizing of the military allowed groups like Al-Queada to flourish and resulted in the 9-11 attacks.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator You have just revealed at what level I must lower myself to debate the 9/11 attacks and who is Al Q. The CIA has been meddling for years in other folks politics and once in a while it'll come back to bite us in the arse... we cannot attack a sovereign country w/o first knowing our true enemy, period.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Hold on, you stated that clinton did it w/o collapsing democracy. I even let the democracy statement go without correcting you. but saying that discussing 911 and al-queada somehow lowers the level of debate is ignorant. My reply to your assertion that clintons cutting defense had no ill effects is that it might have led to the strengthening of Al-queada. Do you dispute this?
BTW America is not a democracy, America is a representative republic. ON PURPOSE.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Tomato-tomahto.... a representative republic is democracy; ur splitting hairs. 9/11 was sold to us sheeple as Muslim vs. Christian propaganda; it's more questionable then UFOs and religion... you wanna argue CIA false flags/state sponsored terrorism? That's another can o' worms u probably can't swallow either, so I won't even get into it with u.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 NO nNO NO. they are 2 distinct and different types of government. Ben Franklin himself said that a democracy is just the tyranny of the majority.He described democracy as "2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner".the founding fathers knew that a representative republic was far better than a direct democracy. I have done some research into 9-11, popular mechanics did an interesting study that shoots down the conspiracy theories about 9-11.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Pop Mechs has been "outed" as a shill of psuedo-science, like the global warming scheme; they washed over facts to help sell the Bush lie... who owns Pop Mechs? A Republic is a form of Democracy, to split hairs just diverts the conversation... it doesn't make you sound smarter to appoint urself as 'ombudsman' of youtube. Democracy is majority rules; Republic is appointed representatives to vote on behalf of the populace. Two sides of a coin.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Why do you feel the need to lie and discredit those that prove you wrong. get over yourself and listen to those that know what their talking about, stop drinking the truther koolaid.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator When ur lies fall flat, you revert to mudslinging... typical. I don't have to even study anything relating to 9/11 to defend the trruth; it's so obvious a simple fire wouldn't melt the building into a CD style implosion... you need to rethink ur approach; attacking those who don't buy the lie, doesn't prove Bush was right.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Yes yes of course, don't let the facts or evidence get in the way of your ridiculous ideas.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Listen shill, you are the only one who is denying facts and evidence; your theory of 9/11 is so far from truth it left the o-zone years ago... go play with your GI Joes and leave the adults alone to talk rationally. I and many others have heard enough of your ridiculous banter about fake terrorists outsmarting the greatest defense dept in the world. You're so convinced they did it, why aren't you over there, fighting, instead of here, trolling?
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 LOL shill.. typical.. false but typical.. Yeah .. Ok Im the ridiculous one.. lol @ u. Its so much more likely that the government snuck in and planted explosives and hypnitized the public into believing that they saw jets fly into the twin towers. OK,, go back into mommy's basement and smoke another bowl fool.
The truth is that terrorists hijacked planes and flew them into the WTC.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Your petty mudslinging is a sign you have nothing to back your story and trying to prove a lie is harder then finding an honest politician... stick to whatever you're good at, like sniffing glue, but stay off forums that require intelligent, free thought... you can't say anything original and it makes you look really sad.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 WHAAT.. lmao. I have hours of news coverage to prove that it happened. You need to leave intelligent debate to those of us with a higher IQ than you. You should do yourself a favor and stay on those crazy conspiracy sites, whre the fools will believe you without proof.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Once again, you don't state facts, you just regurgitate liberal news... which folded, as far as investigative reporting goes. Fact: buildings don't collapse into their own footprint by heat of fire. Proof: engineers have demonstrated more then once... the WTC was the first time in history and not since then has it happenbed either; but you will believe what you're told by the govt that dropped the ball that day? Silly little man, go play outside... the fresh air will do you good.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Wrong, your facts are lies. Haven't you ever watched a planned demolition? The blasts always start at the bottom and go up. The puffs of air that you saw and imagined were small charges going off were puffs of air being forced out as the floor above it collapsed. ...lmao@you. Yes the WTC was the first and last time that a jetliner was used to take down a building. Stupid little fool. The heat from avgas WEAKENED the steel beams enough to allow the collapse. you need a nap kid.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator My facts are from science and engineering experts; yours are just Bush talking points... laugh all you want, ass-hat, but you're the fool.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Uhhh.. nope, my facts are from popular mechanics. where did you get your propaganda from?
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 LOL.. yeah the swearing and name calling really points out that you have the truth on your side. Why do kids always want to swear, I guess its a manifestation of their maturity level and lack of vocabulary...lmao@u
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Ok.. heres a little homework for you. Watch every video of a controlled demolition that you can find. Watch how every single one is demolished from the ground up. Not 1 example of controlled demolition looks like WTC. WTC fell from the point of impact down. This is not how demolition is done. This is what is expected by a collapse, not a demolition.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Ok...here's alittle homework for you, shill... read some history books; govts have been caught with their hand in the cookie-jar before; govts often are responsible for their own downfall; wars are more often a business deal rather then national defense. Stop with the Bush talking points already, they've been exhausted and never proved worth their weight in shit.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Listen. I'm not a govt man. I want the smallest, weakest govt possible. But the facts don't lie. the WTC fell because of the planes flown into the buildings. There were no explosives, period..
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator The facts? What facts? You are stating Bush's lie as facts... those aren't facts; the facts are buildings don't collapse from fire; the molten puddles in the basement and those seen dripping from the uppper floors below the impact zone scream demolitions... if you're going to throw facts around, be sure they're facts and not neo-con talking points.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 *sigh*.. The fact that there is no evidence of a demolition.. NONE.. There are videos of the planes hitting the WTC and the pentagon. This is a fact. There is debris that proves that they were planes that hit those buildings. This is fact. The video of the collapse shows a collapse not a demolition, just watch every singe video of a demolition and compare. It is obviously a collapse. It started where the planes hit and went down. Demolitions start at ground level and go up.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Now if you're willing to engage your brain, we can continue.. If you really want to blame the govt for (-11, you could at least make up a believable conspiracy theory, like.. the terrorists were really CIA plants that flew the planes into the building.. this at least isn't as easily disproven as the ridiculous controlled demolition stupidity.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator "the ridiculous controlled demolition stupidity"... the fact that it's proven on video that molten steel was found, explosions were heard and evidence was removed from the crime scene, it was tampered with; but you still believe it's exactly as Bush said, leads anyone who can think, to conclude you're a waste of time to discuss anything with. Enjoy living with ur head in the sand.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Really, lmao, so .*snicker* when did Bush go and plant these explosives.. *chuckle*... There was nothing at the scene of the collapse that was not consistent with a collapsed building that was burning with jet fuel.. absolutely nothing.. I know that you like to imagine that you're smarter than everyone else and that you and a few others have secret information, but you don't. Its this simple. Islamic extremists hijacked airplanes and flew them into the WTC, and they collapsed
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Retarded comments proves you're not smart *snicker**chuckle**snort* Do you also believe in Santa, the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny? Why are you afraid to open your eyes and look at the evidence presented? The news never investigated, only reported what the White House told them... EPIC FAIL. I'll never buy the Bush lie, so just quit while you're behind.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 I've told you about the evidence that proves the buildings fell due to the airplanes, I provided a source (popular mechanics). You have provided no source for your propaganda. Your wrong, I am right. it's just that simple. Ive proven it you can't prove your conspiracy theory because it didn't happen the way you imagine. Talk about a fool believing in santa clause, thats you.. *chortle* *giggle* *laugh out loud holding my sides.. what a fool u r.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Who owns Popular Mechanics?
Google '9/11;WTC;Inside Job' any combination of those will bring up videos of eyewitness accounts; stuff that didn't make it to lame-stream media. You are a classic, closed-minded %^&*. You don't present facts, you regurgitate liberal media sound bites and neo-con talking points. FAIL
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 I present facts while you present hear say and paranoid speculation. You haven't looked at the popular mechanics debunking study. If you had you would understand the truth. LMAO @ u.. wow Im both a conservative and a liberal., you're logic continues to fail you.. Good luck in the future...lol
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Are your parents related?I never said you were a liberal and/or conservative; but you use those angles; both sides dismiss truth with scripted answers. Why won't you answer who owns Pop Mech?You just use an article by a magazine... not a credible investigation source.
Eyewitnesses on video have debunked Bush's lie before he even went on air...
FDNY stated bombs going off; WTC employees witnessed construction crews before 9/11; video shows an implosion, not a collapse by fire.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Sheesh. popular mechanics is a reliable source, you make outragous claims that it isn't but provide no source that contradicts them. Show me any reliable group that has investigated and found proof of explosives. No explosives were planted there NONE. and don't try the old thermites are present scam. You may learn something if you go to w ww . debunking911 . com/
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Answer this: Why was the scene cleaned out and the metal given to China so quickly? Why was the scene not properly investigated for evidence? Bush and his ilk already knew what happened, no investigation was necessary or could take place. What happened to all the equipment and money from the banks and offices inside WTC? The Pentagon lost valuable computers that day; info about missing budget money was in there... what about that angle of 9/11? You can't lie forever shill.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 *sigh, it took years to clean up the scene, thats not very quick. Your statement that it was not properly investigated is your opinion, it has no basis in fact. Everything that you claim is not only unprovable, it is also irrelevent. LMAO.. the most ridiculous claim to date.. "what happened to all the money and equipment?" LOL it was destroyed.. remember??? C'MON loon, use your head for once.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator You simply make up "facts"... the whole scenario stinks and you can't admit this is beyond a simple explanation from Bush. I once believed it was terrorists; then the hate and adrenaline and fear wore off and I opened my eyes. Sometimes I feel it would be easier not to, but they'll keep doing it to us. You enable corruption and lies b/c you won't accept truth and won't wake up from the American Dream. I'd rather be a "loon", then a sheep like you. Sheep are slaughtered.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@intrepidorator who owns Popular Mechanics? WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER? To get an honest, investigative report of 9/11, the reporter has to be biased and not scared to lose his job or his life.
Who owns Popular Mechanics? The media failed to investigate 9/11; they simply told us the lies and later, they came out and admitted "Iraq wouldn't have happened if they had asked the tough questions". FACT
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 I don't care who owns popular mechanics, I'm sure that you have a conspiracy theory to explain why the engineers at PM found that 911 was not caused by explosives. BTW, Iraq had nothing to do with the 911 attacks, that was the afghanistan war. Iraq was fought because intelligence agencies thought Saddaam had WMD's. I wish you conspiracy nuts would get your conspiracies straight. Look, I'll just keep pointing out the facts and you'll keep saying my facts are wrong without proof.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Are you asking who owns PM, because you don't know the answer? It doesn't matter who owns PM. Unless it is owned by the taliban or al-queada, the owner is irrelevent.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator WRONG. The answer is very relevent... you make 9/11 lies more obvious everytime you speak.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@intrepidorator That biased piece of tripe they call investigative journalism stinks of arrogance and shill propaganda!!! You based your whole argument on that? I couldn't pass the first paragraph w/o gagging on the stink... "1st impression is a lasting impression" is true; if they come off that pompous and closed-minded, then how can the rest of the article be fair and balanced news? A journalist should not slander others, which appears to be the purpose of the article. EPIC FAIL, AGAIN
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 C'mon, I have asked you so many times for your source of information, you have provided nothing. At least admit that you're just making this BS up. Either provide a reputable source or move on to some idiot that you might be able to convince of your conspiracy theory without any evidence or proof. I rely on scientific evidence provided by actual people. You have provided no evidence, only accusations without proof or sources.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator The standard shill propaganda spin to get out of acknowledging your lies are see-thru and the truth is stranger then fiction is to ask me for proof, when the proof can be googled; you expect me to give you every name and link, rather then you google search the info available... if I can't name names, then I'm "lying". FAIL The videos are up and running; search, instead of trolling.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 LOL.. NO.. I expect you to provide 1 strand of evidence to back up your preposerous claim. You have not, and you can not, because no evidence exists. I have produced 2 reputable sources for evidence that the WTC collapsed due to jetliners being flown into them. If you used your head for something other that a place to put a hat, yu'd wonder why you can't find any reputable publication, or engineering organization to back up your ridiculous conspiracy theory.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator You expect me to? What is this English class, you're teacher, I am student? LOL. Google it, shill. It's really simple. So easy, a caveman could do it. PROOF has never been about naming names online... that's a cop-out for you to dismiss proof; make me name the source from memory. FAIL. A number of credible videos have surfaced in the past ten years; PopMech's article is fascist trash... they spun Bush's story, not investigated the truth. You're an obvious shill.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 OMG.. Are you seriously going to sit there and say the naming names and actually naming sources ahs nothiing to do with the truth. Your major failure in this debate, and I suspect in your own life, is that you WNT to believe what the conspiracy nuts post on their blogs. They provide no proof of their claims either, then you and the other blogisphere nuts go out believeing lies and when proof is required, you don't have it, because it never existed in the first place. pitiful...
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Shill, you have nothing... videos are available, showing the buildings collapse demolition style; material has been seen that is by-product of demolitions; explosions were heard and reported by the FDNY and WTC workers inside; pilots question the whole day; engineers question it... only you and a handful of shills still argue it's a building fire that brought down buildings designed to withstand impacts such as planes. FAIL
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Typical left wing loon talk. I provide evidence and a source, you provide nothing but claim that I am the one without evidence. Go back to your job at move on . org and let those of us with a brain do the thinking for you. K kid.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator What evidence? You used a magazine article and you have failed to do anything but regurgitate the lame Bush excuse about what happened, and why, on 9/11... present a fact as solid as demolitions take down buildings, not fires and maybe you can stand up to an argument. Witnesses saw molten metal which is a byproduct of demolitions; explosions were heard; construction crews before 9/11 were seen inside the WTC... a whole list against your one article by P.M.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Do you know that 9/11 is not the first time that date is significant with terrorism? The US under Nixon supported a coup d'etat in Chile, Sept. 11, 1973; Kissinger was linked to that and had to step down from the 9/11 commision... truth is ugly, better to stick with ur lame fantasy of good guys vs bad guys.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Sept 17th 1978 was also the date of the signing of the camp David accords (historic peace accords forged in 1978 between Israel and Egypt) It is very likely that this was a consideration to the terrorists when choosing the date of the attack.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Take a look at the pictures of the Towers; see where they were hit? Then factor in how many floors beneath the impact point, the fire wouldn't weaken the beams all the way into the basement; anyone who believes that has never dealt with fire, metal or reality. Read 'The Daily Beast' Richard Clarke interview 'A CIA 9/11 Cover Up?'; It sheds some more light on govt failure despite knowledge... deal with reality before tackling complex issues like false flags such as 9/11.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 now we're finally discussing it.. You're right, the beams weren't weakened all of the way down, it was the weight of the floors above crashing down on the lower floors that caused them to collapse. All that had to happen was for 2 or 3 floors to weaken enough to start the collapse, then the weight crashing down was enough to continue the collapse. Its simple engineering, watch the collapse look at where it started, the collapse began at the impact point.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Thats hilarious, Richard Clarke stated that one of the terrorists had a U.S. passport, and that the CIA didnt forward the intel. Nothinbg in this interview says anything about the magical explosives that appeared in your conspiracy building. How can you believe in the terrorists and still believe in the controlled demolition. How does logic work in your crazy world? I guess you think that the demolition experts knew to start the demolition on the floor of impact. What a stretch
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Someone, like myself, who has a brain, military training and can read and understand history can decypher the concept of a 'false flag'; the greatest intelligence agency and military didn't "screw up" other then to stand down by orders of a higher power... you are better off to remain in fantasy-land where your feeble mind can idle calmly and never have to get out of first gear. Go play outside, the fresh air and sun will do you good.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Listen my 6 years in the Army, my college education, and my 124 IQ can easily defeat your outrageous claims when you provide absolutely no evidence from any reliable sources. You need to look at the 2 sources that I have provided that disprove the demolition claims. there were no explosives planted in the WTC. None, it didn't happen. Anyone with a brain can understand this. Stop drinking the kool aid. look at the evidence with an unbiased mind and you'll see the truth.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator "my 6 years in the Army, my college education, and my 124 IQ" - proves you're indoctrinated into the system, unable to think for yourself - "can easily defeat your outrageous claims" I didn't claim anything; it's in news footage, live interviews, not bogus articles in a hack-shill magazine. I don't have to prove to you, the prooof is out there and can't be debunked by shills like you. FAIL
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Thats funny, Listen, you have produced no evidence at all to support your claims. Its as simple as that. If the proof is out there, you can show it to us. If its not out there, you can continue to spout your nonsense and show no proof. Just like you've done all along. And by the way, when you say "FAIL" after your posts, it proves that you're just a kid with no education or knowledge of the subject.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Your a horrible shill... the proof is all over the net; but only someone with a brain can understand that. You brought up one article in a crummy magazine; there's more videos then you can tolerate watching... stereotyping me because I use FAIL, which is a fun way of calling you a loser, is typical of your kind. You're a joke, no matter what you say in your defense, it just adds fuel to the fire... why don't you just collapse into your footprint?
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Every statement that you make shows that you have no evidence to prove your ridulous theories. I have linked you to 2 sources that disprove your stupid controlled demolition theory. You provided me with 1 link that showed a man saying that the CIA knew that 1 of the hijackers had a passport. You have provided no evidence of explosives being present, instead all you have done is make crazy charges against me. You should just leave the thinking to those of us equipped for it. LOL
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator I can't count the number of times a shill has thought he proved 9/11 by claiming my lack of evidence... IT'S ON THE NET. How difficult is it for you to google-search it? Videos are everywhere, by multiple sources... it's news footage and private citizen's cameras. You used 1 questionable article by a magazine... give it a rest, shill, you have NOTHING.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 What makes everyone else laugh so hard at you is that you actually think that you have made a single valid point. You have shown no evidence, you haven't even provided a single link that has any evidence that explosives were even present at the site of the collapse. If it is easy to google it, then send me the google searches that convinced you of a controlled demolition. I have provided 2 links to you that disprove it, I can find many more. You are the one with nothing.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator So, your argument for 9/11 is that I won't send you links, when the videos are available for you to watch... you can't type in '9/11' or 'WTC' or 'Bldg what?' but you can troll this site all day? No one's laughing at the truth, but we are laughing at you sheepish shills. You can live in your fantasy world where govt is your friend, your provider, your protector, but that doesn't change reality... how's life with your head in the sand?
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 No, My point is that I have watched all of those conspiracy theory videos and found them all to be without evidence. I have shown you 2 of the many links to evidence that debunks the crazy theory that our govt planted explosives on the WTC and set them off after the planes were flown into them by terrorists. There is no evidence of explosives being present. None, What about "no evidence" can you not understand. You can go ahead and be a conspiracy nut, but I require proof..
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator You have not presented proof, you mentioned one article that was so slanderous that it couldn't be an unbiased piece, but neo-con spin to discredit anyone who would question how planes brought down three buildings in identical manner when the buildings were designed for such catastrophes. Video footage shows columns were sheared in a 45 degree angle and the beams were removed and sold to China before investigated... too many loose ends to believe your Bush B.S.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 OMG.. I can't believe that you brought up the 45 degree angle sheers on the columns, They were cut with cutting torches during the clean up/ recovery. Look at the pictures. WOW you're too lame for words.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator That's what they told you after it was discovered... you believed it, like a good shill. Still haven't debunked the molten metal seen dripping from the impact zone and pooled in the basement. Can't come up with a lie for that?
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 Yes the molen metal was from the cutting torches, wow you keep bringing up the same stupid stuff that has been debunked easily. You're mind is weak and you're delusional. 911 was terrorists hijacking planes and flying them into buildings, that is all it was. Everyone with an IQ over 100 knows it, The fact that you are unable to understand simple physics is why you're a conspiracy nut. Every thing that you have mentioned has been debunked, you're a simple minded fool.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator What a schmuck... you "debunk" things by spinning stories that are so absurd only children and simpltons believe it; the molten metal was seen as the buildings were still burning and detected with heat-sensitive equip. before the clean-up crews were on site... FAILED AGAIN The "IQ over a 100" is your theory, no actual facts back that up... just spewing more and more shill propaganda. LMFAO@U
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@intrepidorator You choose to ignore the videos available for all to see and stick with a lame story made up by those who were/are responsible... Al Q. is a CIA patsy; fires didn't destroy 100+ floors, twice and WTC7; the planes were to justify the wars that followed. Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods, WTC '93 attack, OKC, underwear bomber, are just some famous 'false flags'. No matter what I say, you'll deny it... don't believe me? then go away.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 NO.. idiot, the fireman said that it could have been electrical explosions, from the and the so called 911 truthers never use the complete quote. He said " I don't know if that means anything. I mean, I equate it to the building cowing down and pushing things down, it could have been electrical explosions, it could have been whatever. " Look you're brainwashed into believing what they want you to believe. I'll believe what I saw with my own eyes and the engineers that know. bye
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Who owns Popular Mechanics?
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Who owns Popular Mechanics?
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@intrepidorator Who oooooooooooowns Popular Mechanics?
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@intrepidorator WHO OWNS POPULAR MECHANICS?
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@intrepidorator BYE is what you say when you've lost the argument, but don't care to admit you're wrong and apologize... you can't back up your story with facts; it's all shill lies... No firefighter said "it could have been electrical explosions as the building collapsed". That's pure spin to hide the fact that demos were used to weaken the structure to allow the buildings to fall, enraging the public and allowing war in Iraq, as Bush wanted since before 9/11. SHILL FAIL.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@intrepidorator You said: "I want the smallest, weakest govt possible." Then you say:"We can debate all day about the negative results of Clintons decrease in military spending. Many people agree that Clintons downsizing of the military allowed groups like Al-Queada to flourish and resulted in the 9-11 attacks." WHICH IS IT? You support big govt or don't? Confused little shill, quit already... you can't remember which lie you are using.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03 LMAO @u. umm... military is not govt. listen, the facts don't support your little conspiracy theory. Only a small minded conspiracy nut believes that Bush had anything to do with 9-11. There is no evidence to suport this stupid theory. We all saw the jets fly into the WTC. (-11 truthers are the only group dumb enough to forget what they saw with their own eyes and believe a wild conspiracy theory about it being a controlled demolition. I pity those of you that can't get it.
intrepidorator 6 months ago
@intrepidorator "military is not govt. listen, the facts don't support your little conspiracy theory" 1. the military is govt (DOD). 2. the facts don't support the lie, hence the conspiracy theory... duh! The fact that buildings don't fall down as WTC did w/o assisstance is sign that they planned it's collapse... you are in shill denial, and you appear dumber then dumb. Dismissing everyone who thinks for themself as 'nuts', 'small minded', 'stupid', 'dumb', 'wild', only proves you're sheep.
threepercenter03 6 months ago
@threepercenter03
ending the fed wont be enough. private banking has to be ended completly because all those 'financial products' are not products at all they are simply hot air created out of hot air.
donnbernd 6 months ago
Add a direct democracy to the senate where the senators write bills and people vote on them publicly. this will make bills shorter and more understandable, more people will vote as the main reason people dont vote or get involved now because they are too lazy, and best of all it will eliminate fraud as the results (taken by state) will be verifyable by anyone in that state's system. We dont expect our senators to vote privately so why should we. END THE FED!
Ron Paul 2012!
deshaebeasley 7 months ago 2
he is own mainstream media.
BornPatriot 7 months ago
just remember...love is the drug. its all we got!
newglobalfrontier 7 months ago
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Everybody can see now that you was right all the time!!!
drdejanm 7 months ago
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The party is over. There will no agreement among our politicians, the president will signed an executive order to increase the debt limit by 2 trillions. PM will go to the moon. Watch and see
junkyarddog47 7 months ago
The party is over. There will no agreemet among our politicians, the president will signed an executive order to increase the debt limit by 2 trillions. PM will go to the moon. Watch and see
junkyarddog47 7 months ago
you think this guy cant be right because he is not on main stream media?
well thats the REASON he is not on MSM.
because he is right!
JadeTomZ 7 months ago 90
@JadeTomZ Some people will never figure it out...
BaneTrogdor 7 months ago