that is an absolutely horrible view this man has, but understandable.
The companies destroy these people's way of life and the goverment does nothing about it.
But hey, Isent it just common politics? Here in Denmark the top-politicans has no reality sense when it comes to the life of the common man, and especially not outside the big city. So why should it be different in Finnland with goverment in the south and Saami in the north?
This little preview leaves me with the impression that the film is largely emotional manipulation. A chainsaw at night? A noose? Lots of edited-together scenes, but not much in the way of explanation of how the scenes relate to one another or the overall land situation in Finland.
That's my honest reaction; take it FWIW. I haven't seen the film, just this preview, so perhaps my impression is wrong. FYI I'm a middle-aged American.
Sorry, I love the trees, and don't believe we should waste them, but whoever put this film together has never seen where the true Saami live, there aren't trees there, it is tundra and small pines that grow maybe 10 feet in 100 years.
This is in Finland, lappland overlaps Norway, Finland and Sweden, Norwegian lappland (Finnmark) are more tundralike, While I suppose on the finnish and swedish side there is forests
for paper?! these beautiful trees are dying for paper?! if it was housing that would be one thing, but the paper industry has no right to make a profit off of something that does not belong to them, but belongs to the saami people!
Just like forestry, reindeer herding is harmful to the ecosystem. But boreal forests WILL grow back after cuttings. Erosion is not a problem. Sami people aren't some innocent Indians exploited by the evil Finns. Herding is business nowadays. And remember, Greenpeace makes business too, just like the forest companies! Ps. very large parts of Lapland are under protection. National parks like Lemmenjoki or UKK.
Please look what Timo Helle speaks out about the cutting and reindeerherding. The cutting means losses for reindeerherding. The clearcutted scenerys tell enough if you have some sense left, friend
Traditionally, reindeer herding was done by family in which each family has a somewhat different herd migration route. This leveled out the use of the ecosystem. Americans: please conceptualize this as the nice side of 'regulation'.
FYI im an american(and im 1/8 saami, and proud!), dont make generalizations about americans being stupid, they always interview american idiots on tv, if u go outside on a weekday in public there will be idiots without jobs walking around.
it's just totally against anything! you know, i saw this movie and I know what it's all about- in my country where I live now there have also been the same thing- clean cutting in places where it's simply shouldn't be allowed (even national parks) so that way endangering the whole ecosystem! when there were protests against it, there was the same whole thing- violent threats, assaults and so on.. what do you have in mind to do?
It's awful to see what's going on up there! I never EVER imagined that those amazing forests were cut down so heavily and pitiless! It's just crazy, isn't it? If those organizations ain't going to do something it just shows that nearly everything has been corrupted.
I watched the whole video. i take my words back- in this case the greenpeace activism was just going the right way. I've seen in other countries that so many exaggerations have been made by them but it's so nice to see that it was all peaceful this time!
also... I don't like the greenpeace at all... their activists just make everything worse. physical protest is stupid, in my opinion; it doesn't make any sense or aren't gonna make anything better. so yes, Survival International is a good idea.
I'm of saami descent also ,although I don't live in Finland. I think... a very few saami people are left in Finland and it's all just too weak to stand against global commerce. there's a bit better situation in finnmark-norway where there are simply nothing to cut down xD LOL but it's sad- less than 5% of all the inhabitants in Lapland are the saami. it's just a too small number, isn't it? that also means we should fight even more!
T_T It's so sad. I know not only Saami's culture is dying out but it's still terryifing, watching all these touching videos. I'm interested in their culture too., and I'm crying hearing Saami yoik!
What about using our ANCSA model in Finland? The Saami lands would be owned by a special corporation with the stock held by the Saami. This has worked pretty well for Alaskan natives. To get approval to cut forests, drill for oil or whatever they need approval of the stockholders/tribal members.
Good film! "Our" state also destroyed our indiginous forests and the ancient culture. Greetings from Estonia!
SlazerlentonTV 2 months ago
that is an absolutely horrible view this man has, but understandable.
The companies destroy these people's way of life and the goverment does nothing about it.
But hey, Isent it just common politics? Here in Denmark the top-politicans has no reality sense when it comes to the life of the common man, and especially not outside the big city. So why should it be different in Finnland with goverment in the south and Saami in the north?
RavenofDenmark 1 year ago
Protect indiginous peoples from IMF aggression!
TheSWORDOFTRUTH777 2 years ago 2
This little preview leaves me with the impression that the film is largely emotional manipulation. A chainsaw at night? A noose? Lots of edited-together scenes, but not much in the way of explanation of how the scenes relate to one another or the overall land situation in Finland.
That's my honest reaction; take it FWIW. I haven't seen the film, just this preview, so perhaps my impression is wrong. FYI I'm a middle-aged American.
ProspectorSam 3 years ago
Sorry, I love the trees, and don't believe we should waste them, but whoever put this film together has never seen where the true Saami live, there aren't trees there, it is tundra and small pines that grow maybe 10 feet in 100 years.
kivinen1 3 years ago 3
This is in Finland, lappland overlaps Norway, Finland and Sweden, Norwegian lappland (Finnmark) are more tundralike, While I suppose on the finnish and swedish side there is forests
Kenzofeis 3 years ago
Tobique First Nation and Indigenous of North America are fed up with this BS.
Indigence 3 years ago
for paper?! these beautiful trees are dying for paper?! if it was housing that would be one thing, but the paper industry has no right to make a profit off of something that does not belong to them, but belongs to the saami people!
Thorolf9 3 years ago
Just like forestry, reindeer herding is harmful to the ecosystem. But boreal forests WILL grow back after cuttings. Erosion is not a problem. Sami people aren't some innocent Indians exploited by the evil Finns. Herding is business nowadays. And remember, Greenpeace makes business too, just like the forest companies! Ps. very large parts of Lapland are under protection. National parks like Lemmenjoki or UKK.
noniino 4 years ago
Please look what Timo Helle speaks out about the cutting and reindeerherding. The cutting means losses for reindeerherding. The clearcutted scenerys tell enough if you have some sense left, friend
apuronen 4 years ago
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noniino 4 years ago
reindeer herding is controlled and is important to the ecosystem of sapmi to kee a steady reindeer population.
StalluBuidoar 3 years ago
Traditionally, reindeer herding was done by family in which each family has a somewhat different herd migration route. This leveled out the use of the ecosystem. Americans: please conceptualize this as the nice side of 'regulation'.
milkgodnl 3 years ago
agreed.
FYI im an american(and im 1/8 saami, and proud!), dont make generalizations about americans being stupid, they always interview american idiots on tv, if u go outside on a weekday in public there will be idiots without jobs walking around.
Darkstorms15 2 years ago
I urge you all to send a letter to your countrys Scadanavian embassy, this is Sami land!, I am a Saami friend from England
mubbbu 4 years ago
it's just totally against anything! you know, i saw this movie and I know what it's all about- in my country where I live now there have also been the same thing- clean cutting in places where it's simply shouldn't be allowed (even national parks) so that way endangering the whole ecosystem! when there were protests against it, there was the same whole thing- violent threats, assaults and so on.. what do you have in mind to do?
allth3s4me 4 years ago
It's awful to see what's going on up there! I never EVER imagined that those amazing forests were cut down so heavily and pitiless! It's just crazy, isn't it? If those organizations ain't going to do something it just shows that nearly everything has been corrupted.
allth3s4me 4 years ago
I watched the whole video. i take my words back- in this case the greenpeace activism was just going the right way. I've seen in other countries that so many exaggerations have been made by them but it's so nice to see that it was all peaceful this time!
allth3s4me 4 years ago
also... I don't like the greenpeace at all... their activists just make everything worse. physical protest is stupid, in my opinion; it doesn't make any sense or aren't gonna make anything better. so yes, Survival International is a good idea.
allth3s4me 4 years ago
I'm of saami descent also ,although I don't live in Finland. I think... a very few saami people are left in Finland and it's all just too weak to stand against global commerce. there's a bit better situation in finnmark-norway where there are simply nothing to cut down xD LOL but it's sad- less than 5% of all the inhabitants in Lapland are the saami. it's just a too small number, isn't it? that also means we should fight even more!
allth3s4me 4 years ago
T_T It's so sad. I know not only Saami's culture is dying out but it's still terryifing, watching all these touching videos. I'm interested in their culture too., and I'm crying hearing Saami yoik!
Palcempomapie 4 years ago
I was always interested in learning about the Saami culture...and this is horrible, the way it is dying out. I hope things get better.
heidiiiiiiiiiii 4 years ago
thats awful... i hope there is a stop to this seriously...
there is not much i can do in america but i hope this works out so as to save those forests and get the bastards out of there
ParappatheRapper 4 years ago
I will put it on our forum, hope it helps. This has gone too far already.
The bigger movie is even more impressive.
All the best and lots of good luck.
humppaporo1 4 years ago
What about using our ANCSA model in Finland? The Saami lands would be owned by a special corporation with the stock held by the Saami. This has worked pretty well for Alaskan natives. To get approval to cut forests, drill for oil or whatever they need approval of the stockholders/tribal members.
Cosmoline 4 years ago
Have you contacted Survival International, they help indigenous people fight for their land and culture??
benzo430 4 years ago
Thanks for the information, we shall contact them
Hannu
apuronen 4 years ago