Is TV Too Gay? Bryan Fischer (American Family Association) Vs. Ray Hill (Gay Rights Activist)

[darlinkula1]

Bryan Fisher & all homophobic Americans now have to pay the salaries of gay soldiers with their tax dollars shows that they have officially lost the war against gays in America. The fact that religious freaks can no longer allow their kids to participate in popular culture by watching the most popular show on tv, shows that homophobes are losing touch with progressive America. Forbiding kids to watch Glee only makes it that much more appealing, Being controversial made Madonna 600 Million $ !

[1matsg]

So much bullshit that comes out of Bryan Fishers mouth. Someone needs to tell him to wake up and realize that we don't live the 50's anymore.

[MrJihadJesus]

@1matsg yeah, the 1450's

[davej1s]

Hate is hate

[mkellsify]

Did this guy even bother watching the show? Kurt was dealing with issues like bullying, death threats, and even having to change schools because he is gay. Those hardly seem like glamorized points of being a homosexual to me.

[81546mot]

How can idiots like this attract followers? That is my question. If the economy were not depressed, fools like this would not even be heard except by their low iq followers. People like this, who graduate from bogus "christian" universities, are truly an insult to America and all it stands for!!!

[exenrontexas]

Beware of the "yeast" of the Pharisees, Jesus said. So what is the yeast of the Pharisees? I believe it is self righteousness. In other words it is those people who complain about the speck in your eye without recognizing the beam in theirs. Such talk is no way to win people to Christ. Stand firm in your faith without condemning sinners. Christ came for such as they and he came not to condemn but to save.

[badfish42o]

goddamn fucking american family association. Someone should put those facist pieces of shit out of buisness.

[AxisSalley]

@badfish42o they are part of the holy land tours, gay tel aviv.

[misfits4life1]

what happen to the Christians standing up for family values what we gotta relies on conservatives now pathetic

[gwmgbwi]

I always thought FOX news stupidity slowed down on the local level but this dumb ass host just blew that out of the water. We're been seeing love stories between teens boys and girls for years. Think of "saved by the bell." Arguments against gay t.v. characters must be applied to straight characters and we must ask; does this argument carry any weight? What is so damn terrifying to these people? I vote for The Birdcage being played on FOX every night at 5:30 so that Glee seems tame...

[scarlionheart]

Okay bryan, I will give you that the show sucks, but i don't think it gives you AIDS :p

[fullicat]

'91% of men who contracted aids contracted it either through gay sex or through injection, that means that homosexual behaviour is just as rsky and dangerous as intravenous drug abuse.' That is one of the most remarkble pieces of illogic I have ever heard. Even if the stat is true, he doesn't give the indivual statistics for gay sex and injection, yet tries to lump them together as equally dangerous.

[PyrogirlZZ]

@fullicat Homosexual and Heterosexual sex both have they're different risks and problems and I totally agree with you.

[Amashkitotamoes]

It's been a pretty long time since I watched the news. They tell questionable stories, and feed bias too often still, imo. :/ "Why is this even being discussed?" Because religious whackoes in America think they have rights over law and concenting people, and the blind mice keep following them? (Oh, was that too honest?)

[Abrucard1]

@Amashkitotamoes I am sorry to sound stupid. If you would like to explain your comment more that would help me understand it. I am not trying to be mean I am just not understanding fully. Thank you for your time.

[Amashkitotamoes]

@Abrucard1 Oh not what you wanted? Too bad!

[Amashkitotamoes]

Who? Oh ok..

[Cataconda]

foxnewsissostupidsosickofthis

[Mattrix24]

I hope they are posting videos about their disapproval for what Arnold did next. That would at least be consistent of them.

[Mattrix24]

But yet it is ok to portray women as men's play things? Straight culture has so much more to be ashamed of on a regular basis.

[falcoperegrinus82]

I'm all for Glee's support for gay acceptance, etc. But I still can't stand the fucking show.

[MsTessG]

No one has ever effectively explained why being gay is the sin above all other sins. Why these people don't choose issues that could have more impact on the world and its problems instead of focusing on who people happen to be attracted to is beyond me. Gay people aren't a problem; small minded, bored, hypocritcal heterosexuals are.

[Cmppayne26542]

Oh my God! Two homosexual couples in a large school! What has the world come too?

Here's an idea, if you don't want your kids watching it... block it with parental controls. MAGIC!

[ToManifest]

Seriously? This BS is getting soooo out-of-hand and is destroying our youth more than you think!

It is even not about being gay, it is about how dangerous stating these homophobic opinions can be.

Kids are killing themselves over just being bullied about it...kids who aren't even gay...

Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover and Jaheem Herrera are just two of them...both were 11!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ELEVEN!!!!

I believe those who are vomiting this hate are more hurtful than watching Glee ever could be.

[JagermeisterDetox]

i thought it was a gay man's right to be fabulous.

[berscheida]

anyone ever thought if tv is too....straight?...hm..weird..­..

[counterculture11]

They're right, we shouldn't glamorize homosexuality....The gays are already too glamorous!!!!

[soarom1]

More like the American Douchebagk Shitsociation.

[musicaltheatergirl12]

I'm so glad I started watching glee. It has really opened my eyes. Before glee I was ignorant when it came to homosexuality. I thought it was bad or weird becasue I had no idea of what it really was. Then I started watching glee and I new that homosexual people are really no different than heterosexual people. Because of glee I am VERY into gay rights and I believe no one should be denied a right ( ex: Marraige) because of there sexuality. Glee causes acceptance! Is that really bad?!?!?

[MsTessG]

@musicaltheatergirl12 Good for you! You think for yourself and that is AWESOME! Human beings are human beings. The people spewing hate against homosexuals are no different than the Nazis of WWII. They devalue human life based on what THEY feel is "normal" and "of value".

[ebaynutt]

Bryan Fisher just got owned! I actually surprised FOX even aired this...

[girlsnextdoorkendra]

@citizen28100 Funny, gays make AIDS but researches say that 80% of the AIDS victims engaged only in heterosexual sex. Oh you narrow minded people, how you entertain me!

[Ofir84]

Bryan Fisher should come out of the closet

[rkalch]

unbelievable...the south can't stop picking on people.

[perkicas]

@rkalch i swear we're not all like that! it's just that the ones that are tend to be the loudest... :-(

[TheTomWIlliams]

Bryan Fischer isn't making sense. There's no such thing as glamourising homosexuality such as there is no such thing as glamourising heterosexuality. Children need to be exposed to homosexuality (not in a sexual way of course, simply as a lifestyle) at a young age so they become used to it and see there to be no problem. My sister is now 10 years old and she has grown up in Brighton (gay capital of england) with me and bat an eyelid at a gay couple kissing or holding hands. It's natural.

[rolutos]

@TheTomWIlliams If these people don't want to see plot lines involving homosexual relationships then they need to be protesting the heterosexual relationships as well. You can watch Quin and Rachel kiss half the male actors on the show, but Brit and Santana and Kurt and Blaine is glamorizing homosexuality. KISS MY ASS

Bryan Fisher. In short I agree.

[cuntsmasher7]

Why do I get the feeling this nutcase wouldn't be allowed airtime if he were preaching that because "statistically" black people commit more crime, therefore we shouldn't glamorize the contagious black lifestyle on tv?

Furthermore, you're talking about a character who was forced to leave school because of excessive bullying for being gay.

When these downies can accept the fact that being gay is not a choice or lifestyle we can move forward.

[rhedd85]

Btw I don't have a problem with gay people.

But I would welcome the removal of the guy on glee from Tv. Purely because he is not funny.

[rebeccawesome]

Well done, Ray.



[raptors11111]

Fags should have to pay for air

[6dragonkiller]

@raptors11111 shut up plz and thank u

[FallenReich13]

Tell 'em Ray lol, though I do think the writers do push it too much. But it does make for good discussion and debate. We should def be more accepting of others in America....at least.

[outragious]

Wait... let me get this straight, FOX NEWS is doing a special how a show, ON FOX, is too gay? MY MIND IS FULL OF FUCK!

[ninj4sugarbyte]

ok.... so do heterosexual relationships on television influence/incourage men to like women and women to like men? the 'glamorize' argument is absolutely retarded.

[kztar621]

LOL, I can just hear this geezer saying something like:

"Two gay couples on TV, what's next? BLACK WOMEN IN THE NEWS?!"

[kztar621]

Oh! TWO same sex couples in a High School is controversial?

LOL, these people are so blind.

[ThatNinjaGuy4]

Bryan Fisher -GUARD CRUSH!

Ray Hill- 64 hit combo!

Winnah! Ray Hill!

[InformationPollution]

Yea man, gays on TV is like product placement! I watched some Justice League the other day, then went out and punched a giant robot into the sun! Shit is fucked up!

[Lieberschon]

The conservative Christian line is still "you can catch the gay if you're exposed to it." Geez. What they really want is for us to back in the closets and get caught tapping our foot in restroom stalls. The fact is, they know better. I knew I was different when I was 5 and we didn't have any gay characters on TV to "give it to me." They really do want to take it back to 1954!

[NotMyBirthday]

I love Glee but i will be honest, they talk about gay people way to much. It would be nice to watch Glee and see someone i can relate to, just like gays can relate to Kurt and Blanie. I hope Ryan Murphy puts a christian character on the show.

[Lieberschon]

@NotMyBirthday Um...80% or more of the characters on Glee are straight (non-gay). They all have storylines, too. So I don't follow your logic.

[kztar621]

@NotMyBirthday Another Christian one?

Sorry if I don't recall correctly, since I don't really watch Glee anymore, but wasn't there an episode in which pretty much everyone but the Jewish chick pushed their christianity on the gay dude?

[dukenthaylor]

No! TV is..SO..gay!

[endthedisease]

oh I just saw two guys kiss on Glee, got to go out and buy me a box of gay right now!!!

[MPA2000]

@vicked914  don't be silly

[BrownSugar2050]

Christianity is Gay

[HorseEyes]

Saying showing happy homosexual couples promotes AIDS is like saying that showing happy heterosexual couples promotes teen pregnancy.

Plus, half of the gay community (lesbians!) can't even contact HIV other than through needles...

[Islander255]

Wait... Glee is a FOX show....

But here on FOX News they have people complaining about how evil it is.

What the hell is up? For that matter, how did a show like Glee end up with Fox in the first place?

[espakor]

Oh, you bloody American Christians. Just get over with that indoctrinated homophobia and accept reality. There has been and will always be homosexuals. Be civilized human beings and treat them like humans for once, yes?

If you don't like it, switch to a different channel. For pete's sake, you Americans have more than 500 channels!

[RightWingHunter666]

If you don't like it don't it watch it. ON another note go read Bryan Fischer blog on AFA.com website. This scumbag articles is hilariously stupid.

[SVercelli]

Oh snap bitch even got cut off at the end by YouTube

[vicked914]

that stupid idiots think that straight sex = no HIV and gay sex = HIV. what a complete bigoted moron

[robotxhuman]

oh please, this is ridiculous.

[MPA2000]

I am a liberal and I think that TV and Cable are way too gay. There are way too many shows, in my opinion, exploiting gays and lesbians. It makes me sick.

[vicked914]

@MPA2000 gay people can say there are wayy too many shows exhibiting heterosexual behaviour too u moron

[lucymydog1995]

oh fuck you bryan fischer. so its okay to show some guy getting slashed and shot but its not okay to show two men showing affection? what the fuck is wrong with people. if you don't want to watch the fucking show, don't watch it. FUCK YOU.

[zippyman818]

If TV is too gay, then that implies that there is a CORRECT AMOUNT of gay.

I just think he doesn't want any gay on TV, and that would be wrong.

[HenhousetheRed]

Bryan honey, nobody is going to miss you when you croak. Nobody will remember you.

[Broseph219]

I had to stop watching when he didn't articulate "influences" correctly. The accent is on the first syllable, not the secound.

[zyxek]

Until they show Kurt having unprotected sex, Glee is not glamorizing behavior that could lead to contracting HIV. People like Bryan Fischer don't want kids to know that, though. "Kids are watching"- oh my!

[UpstateDV8]

Glee's last show compelled me to don huge shoulder pads and dance like Twyla Tharp - just wait til they get into workout video infomercials!

[piggywild]

First off, Im a straight, married, white male. And Im sick of all these hate groups calling themselves some bullshit political names like "American Family association" or "Patriots for a Better America" or whatever else you can make up to sound like your good for America. They find these outdated, nonfactual, and often times completely made up statistics to help propagate their hate. The worst part however, is that there is a large portion of America dumb enough to believe them.

[AxisSalley]

@piggywild american family association are the largest supporters of xsrael.

[AHeartlessGirl]

I cannot wait until douchebags like Bryan Fischer die out and finally shut the fuck up. Ray Hill, keep on keepin' on. I'm sorry, "showing" homosexual behaviour is not "glamourising" it. Read a fucking dictionary.

[steerpike66]

Yeah Glee DELVES into homo relationships.

Where's the cock at?

[steerpike66]

STUPID OLD FART.

JUST DIE, ALREADY

[ShaunTuazon]

Brian Fischer. You are a JOKE! hahahahhaa. He also compares gay sex to being as dangerous as intravenous drug use?? He talks erroneously about HIV, completely ignoring that heterosexual contact has been a driver of HIV for the last ten years.

[MatthewMakeouttt]

HOMOSEXUALITY IS IDEALISTIC! haha. :) Just kidding, we all have choices. And that gives us the opportunity to love who makes us happy. It also means that you can choose to watch these shows! Don't wanna see it? CHANGE THE CHANEL!

[HorseEyes]

THIS IS AMAZING. GO RAY!

[MaryJesusJoseph]

Brian Fischer thinks TV is too gay. What a shock.

[pratsha45]

Call me Crazy but I feel like this 'anchor' was not being balanced and/or taking the right side here.....besides, why would they allow on a hate group to discuss this? Would they allow on the KKK to discuss affirmative action?

[MaryJesusJoseph]

@pratsha45 She totally is. This is bullshit.

[RavenKing777]

Ray sure did kick his ass

[homerth1555]

Baywatch made me gay

[disrxt]

It just goes to prove what a slimy creature Rupert Murdoch and FOX is. All he cares about is money, his news division is trash for a conservative audience and his entertainment division is trash for a liberal audience. It's all engineered to make money off the masses aiming at the lowest common denominator. I won't watch any of it, except maybe The Simpson's, or a tiny bit of Family Guy, or the occasional episode of House. God f'n dammit I've been suborned! Damn your eyes Rupert Murdoch!

[MidnightChimes]

Given the choice of having my kids get AIDS from watching TV or sexually and intellectually molested going to church, I'll take the former....but isn't that kinda like when people used to get herpes from a tractor?

[MedicalMilk]

and you know, i'm seriously giving these guys a chance to prove to me that i'm sick or wrong. cause if i have a problem, then i certainly want to make it better. but these guys don't even have a leg to stand on. not a single valid point. the 'jeebus christmas hates homos' argument might have worked, iiiiiiiif i weren't atheist, but i am. so i guess i'll just keep thinking i'm happy and there's nothing wrong with me.

[MedicalMilk]

ray hill is my new hero.

[MisterDoctorE]

People who complain about issues like this... they are gay too.. in the closet.

Fact

[Revan46]

Saying that Glee is too gay is like saying Fresh Prince of Bel-Air was too black. Plain and simple, this sort of discussion is no different than fifty years ago during segregation.

[gupsphoo]

I love the fact that every organization in the US that has the word "FAMILY" is associated with bigoted Christians.

[losarman]

Remember that Gle is the TV series that supports a paedophile by using Gary Glitter records and that is what I find offensive about the program.

The anti gay guy here has no coherent argument

[SuperContinuum]

That homophobe is a giant tool.

But, so is Fox 26 and Damali Keith for giving him a forum for his bigotry and for letting him get away with his lies.

Our mainstream news organizations are shameful in their he-said, she-said journalism and their pursuit of ratings.

[YOURINQUIRER]

By Fischer's standard, he , the AFA & America should endorse lesbianism since lesbians have the lowest confirmed rates of sexually transmitted diseases.

[DrNHand1994]

i just want to scientifically critique the fact distortion that the family values guy said. he said that 91% of men infected with HIV got it from iv drugs or homosexual sex since the beginning of hiv.... How much of that 91% was from sex, how much from drugs? what is the current statistic, not since 1981? what percentage of iv drug users get hiv? what percentage of gay men have hiv?

if he cited that on any credible news network he would be questioned.

[dogit800]

keep on going Ray. Bryan....get a life

[divad838]

Why! Is this on your news channel?! Do people in Texas care about this? I find it offensive that you would allow that bigot air time and more offensive as an entire piece. You wouldn't dare ask these questions about any other minority group.

[adzez]

oh crap he went to the HIV angle

[nicksum29]

Right wing America - so BOOOOORING.

[1bol390]

TOO MUCH? NOT ENOUGH!

[cryptosquid]

Sorry Ray, the ban on gay blood is unfortunately still in effect. The douchenozzle is right for the first time in his life.

[silentfades]

@cryptosquid gay man here in the medical field and YOU ARE TOTALLY CORRECT

I wonder why he said that ? the Red Cross supports a data-based reconsideration of deferral criteria BUT THE FDA ruled against this and it is the FDA THAT DICTATES to the red cross and the nation what is acceptable

now in England it has been changed but not here

[SeparateisntEqual]

It's completely true. 20 minutes into watching Glee, I had to pause the show and go suck some cock.

[cryptosquid]

@SeparateisntEqual LOL. Thumbs up for you.

[Revan46]

@SeparateisntEqual You sir, are a tool.

[SeparateisntEqual]

@Revan46 Oh golly, I'm just so crushed since I was anxiously waiting to hear what *you* thought of me. LOL. Eat shit you douchebag.

[Revan46]

@SeparateisntEqual Hmm I simply should ask, were you saying your first comment as a joke making fun of the family values people, or actually trying to insult gays? If its the former, I rescind my earlier comment.

[SeparateisntEqual]

@Revan46 really? you're really asking me this? omg. dude. if you really were that interested, you coulda just looked at my page to figure it out. jeez. besides, how many 'phobes do you know who are that intellectually snarky? c'mon.

[Revan46]

@SeparateisntEqual Hmm good point...sorry, had a blonde/dumb moment.

[MatthewMakeouttt]

@SeparateisntEqual You just made my day. <3

[alejandro8888]

@SeparateisntEqual fucking hilarious HAHAHAHAHAHA

[rhedd85]

@SeparateisntEqual

Haha!!

It's only gay if you push back and close your eyes.

[edgwaterprog]

Bryan Fischer is a theocratic homophobe. If you are not familiar with his work you should watch the American Family Association channel here on youtube.

[trancewe]

Love it: 4:08 "I don't care how hard you try to revive 1954, she ain't comin' back"

[Nmisling]

Why are they so scared of Gay people? They treat gayness like its Malaria. First they have to quarantine it, then spray it with their holy hate juice to try and kill as much of it as possible.

Its backwards and ignorant....

[kmelfina]

Watching shows like Glee proves that homosexuality is real. It's not encouraging kids to be gay, just having them accept others for those who are gay.

Okay I'm a bit biased having watched and loved the "Born this Way" episode last night of 90 minutes of heaven!

I wonder if Fischer has heard of the continent Africa where kids are being born with AIDS and the parents passing on the infection without the usage of protection of any kind to each other + more people >_>;

[jshweid]

this all comes down to a twisted male superiority complex. the only way to live is to have dominion over a woman, and to treat fellow man as friends and lovers is to lose your masculine self. Bryan Fischer you are: Idiotic! Cowardly! Chauvinistic! No wonder the Reps can't find anyone decent to run for Prez; they glomp onto social issues that refuse progress.

[VoteYou]

LMAO "1954 an't coming back"

[VoteYou]

Homosexuals are glamorous you fool.

[sadguyfoundout1]

Ray Hill is the shit! WWOOOOOO! 4:15 Seemed like Damali had a bit of an orgasm there! Baby, Ray Hill is MIIIINNNEEEE!

[silentfades]

If they did not have such opposing view they would make a lovely couple !

[edgwaterprog]

@silentfades HA!