Sick Madelyne..it wasn't enough she wanted eternal death for herself but she drug her son and grand daughter into the same pit...controlled their lives where they couldn't get away from her....what a UGLY human being..not because she was an atheist but because she was an arrogant and a hateful person!
@majorl311 Amen!! There were countless Christians who were upset about the death of Madalyn and Christopher. I was really upset and even pleaded with God to show Him mercy, even though Christopher showed God no mercy. But, our God is indeed a just God.
When was this debate? There are Christians everywhere! even Korea, Japan, China, Iraq...the Gospel is being spread, and before Christs returns, everyone who can understand will ave heard!
She ended up chopped up in body parts after employing a former criminal who ripped her off and then she wrote about his personal issues and intended to embarass him...he got his revenge against both her and her (other) son and her grand-daughter...they were all murdered and chopped up...sad...for all but not a surprise with her arrogance and ego and she was a rip off artist per se.. her son John who left and later became a Christian. Sad end and a sad lady...not my view she got her just deserts
As the church declines from its moral calling by God and buying into secular liberalism..popular for the last 40 years (although all the liberal churches are losing membership in droves and Evangelical churches are are the surge) but lliberal thinking has already infiltrated all the major colleges and seminaries and so for years....are so we have seen ONLY the decline of America..purely coincidental...I don't think so...
Islam is patient...it has time and numbers on their side..as we in the West despise the idea of large families...abort them...only so much air and water..be enviromentally correct...we average 2.5 children in America and less in Europe and Islam has 6-8 children..time and numbers are on their side...Utopia ideas will end by the edge of a sword...better wake up or lose your and your fathers world they fought for...to be left to a bunch of delinquents.
If I am wrong than in the history of Islam was there never a free republic ever....anywhere in its history...what has Islam created for history...get out the burkahs...its happening and unless Western society (which is constantly attacked as the evil of the world..not true) wakes up...it WILL happen.
Of course atheiest and marxists and leftists have now and intentionally try to use the constitution against its founders to allow ALL thing in...which is what Europe is fighting again with Islam and it is now on our shores...humans are inherrentaly religious...as we became more secular in America and Europe; Islam moved in and always intended ( since they beat as with an up front battle or economics) seek to infilatrate by using our freedoms agains ourselves to their benefit..Thanks ACLU...
My question is why do people hate God so much if they don't believe in Him? How can you hate Someone so much Who you don't believe even exists to begin with? Almost every atheist I've talked to has shown such a strong hate for Christians and God, where is this hate coming from? It's never failed with the hate from them, this Madalyn O'Hair is nothing but a big, bitchy whiner, she wouldn't hardly let the guy get a word in edgewise, so damn annoying when someone does that, and so damn rude....
@TheStrawberryCloud And that's why when you read the bible, it tells you why people hate God and or won't accept him. Mock people for Jesus name and the whole 9 yards, it's the only religious (If you want to call it that) text in all religions that outline every single aspect of everything. Also, people don't understand, if this is all true which I'm saying it is, Christianity is not a religion, it's the way we are suppose to live, and what we are suppose to do. It actually is life.
@TheStrawberryCloud People will just reject it. You see constant attempts by all types of people to disprove God, you see kinds of attempts throughout history trying to get rid of Christianity, you see kinds of attempts of people trying to disprove Jesus in modern times, all kinds of attempts to make Christianity similar to other religions (Pagan, esoteric etc) But it hasn't worked, it's still here after all this time. Christianity is attacked constantly, verbally and violently.
@TheStrawberryCloud You'd think if this was all nonsense people would just *shrug and go on with their lives like they've done with Santa clause and Christmas saying (we know it's fake but hey lets just leave it be) but no, they go mad. They allow nonsense like Santa clause, and Halloween, a false Easter, pagan rituals etc to be done right in front of them, they celebrate it, not one of them cares.They try to mix Roman Catholic doings with Christianities to validate their attack on Christianity.
@Shadowlooker12 If there wasnt a church on every corner, a fanatic trying to teach this crap to my kids in school,or a religious pamphlet showing in my mailbox ever other week, atheists would more then likely do exactly as you suggest. But religion forces its self into our lives every day whether or not we want it to. Its a poison that spreads if not attacked, and so that is what we do. If religion kept to its self so would I.
@Brianchse You've conveniently forgotten that America was founded on Christian religious principles established by the founding fathers that extends back to the first Christian Pilgrims at Jamestown. Modern religious atheists such as yourself (including O'Hair & her ilk) have come along & attacked the very religious traditions of this country & attempted to change it into a secular state where "Monkey to Man" Darwinian Evolution Religion is the new religious "hatred of the Biblical God" faith.
@CAnswersTV You have conveniently forgotten that there is a separation of church and state written into our constitution. This country was NOT founded on christianity,The founding fathers were almost ALL atheist.Nowhere does the Constitution say: "The United States is a Christian Nation", or anything even close to that. Nowhere in the Constitution is religion mentioned, except in exclusionary terms.Now go ahead and block me again if your arguments are so weak you can not defend them(Brianchse)
@MrLinuxgui YOu ARE soooo wrong..the FIRST amendment states: "Congress can make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or the abridging of freedom of speech or of the press or of the right of the people to peaceable assemble or of the right of the people to petition the governement for a redress of grievences." There is NO separation of church and state ever in the first amendment..just try READING...
@MrLinuxgui This was set up by the founding fathers to prevent a state church (not Mosque or Synagogue since none were a part of our American Heritage in the founding issue at the time; it was ONLY about Christian "church" issues) since all had hailed from some version of Christianity,....but that no one view of THAT faith could impose a state church that all others would have to adhere to. Ignorance of history is your MAJOR...get a refund from your college system. YOu deserve that.
@MrLinuxgui Again your constant ignorance of history since your education is soooo pooooorr..."in the year of our Lord "..Article VII dates the Constitution in "the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven." ..that was NOT KING GEORGE who we as Americans was a reference to at the time. George would have been very unborn by many amany years.......the ONLY LORD that FITS that is going back to the understood date is Christ Jesus...yes it was founded as a Christian society.
@1927Norma You sound like the typical liberal morons I have dealt with before...enjoy your St. Madelyne and you will be there shortly yourself...so why worry since it isn't true...move on.
@TheStrawberryCloud There is an agenda against it, always has been from years and years, once the power of the Roman Catholics decreased, at least to our perceived notion of them, people moved to more humanistic ideologies via the "Enlightenment" era towards modern times. This is where all this comes from, evolution and all other attempts to try to explain life without God, from the Dark Ages to Now. People saw the Church and believes it to be True Christianity, cause of atrocities.
My question is why do people hate God so much if they don't believe in Him? How can you hate Someone so much Who you don't believe even exists to begin with? Almost every atheist I've talked to has shown such a strong hate for Christians and God, where is this hate coming from? It's never failed with the hate from them, this Madalyn O'Hair is nothing but a big, bitchy whiner, she wouldn't hardly let the guy get a word in edgewise, so damn annoying when someone does that, and so damn rude....
@TheStrawberryCloud My question is why do you love a god in which there is no evidence of his exsistence? Why do you belive in a book that was written by man and written over 300 year after the so called death of jesus? Another question why do wait to go to heaven if its so good, after all heaven is enternity in where here is lets say 75 years ???? Another question why do say we hate as to hate implies there is something there to hate?
@stonewall1888 As most atheists typically do you begin your argument against the existence of God with a logical fallacy called BEGGING THE QUESTION. Your argument begins with the ASSUMPTION that there is no evidence to support the view that God exists which is not true. There are many evidences for the existence of God but you refuse to accept any of them. Just because you have chosen to IGNORE all the evidences doesn't mean you're right. Your other ASSUMPTIONS about "300 years" etc are false.
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke your 'arbitrary morality" logic proves God's existence; laws of logic are God’s standard for thinking. God is an unchanging, sovereign, immaterial Being, & the laws of logic are abstract, universal, invariant entities. That is, they aren't made of matter—they apply everywhere and at all times. Laws of logic are contingent upon God’s unchanging nature, & necessary for logical reasoning. Thus, rational reasoning would be impossible without the biblical God.
2 minutes in and they are asking they claim atheists have no basis to say why killing a person is worse than killing a flower- the answer is because a person experiences more suffering than a flower, and morality is about minimising suffering and maximising happiness.
flipping the script, if you think things are evil because God decided so, you don't really understand what's so evil about them. Even if God existed, he wouldn't be the 'moral author' because then morality would be arbitrary.
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Are you serious? You just committed the BEGGING THE QUESTION FALLACY going & coming. Your "flower" argument wilts because you're assuming "suffering" & "maximizing happiness" have anything to do with actual proof for verifiable morality in overall reality (how does this fit with an ascetic Buddhist or an incurious plant?). Your "flipped script" flops because your premise is a NON SEQUITUR based on a lack of a defined "evil" meaning (evil is good to some) & of God Himself.
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Morality is not just about minimizing suffering, that is an assumed aspect form atheist who embrace the evolutionary concept. Morality is about doing the CORRECT thing, Helping, the polar opposite of evil intention and suffering. it's really idiotic to beleive all morality is, is a construct of an evolve being who went from having no values at all to a moral being for no apparent reason at all. But to fill that void, Evolutionist say "oh well it's just working together"
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Organism work together, and seeing that we are highly evolve it's better to work together then not. Well tell that to the many tyrants of our species, Human men and women, who murder by mass amount for no reason. Those who are greedy, crazed, who believe killing is necessary to keep the population in check, as if we are animals breeding too much. Morals don't evolve, they don't just appear, they aren't a result of human interpretation or adaption to circumstance.
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Morals are not essential to any organism that lives except us. Killing ensures the survival of a pack or group in the Animal kingdom,but to us, some of feel guilt, a sadness, regret for doing evil,why should we? it does not undermine our species, and even if it did, how can we have evolved an aspect that did not exist anywhere before in the human construct even IF we did come from a "common ancestor" Morals is far more then minimization of suffering.
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Someone kills your best friend, you get angry, you feel sad, you say it's wrong, but instead of killing the one who did it, you forgive him. Why? you want people to beleive that you came to that conclusion based on minimization of suffering? No, it's because we have a concept of right and wrong, it just exist, and science cannot explain it, so they opt out for saying things like it's an evolution based concept we developed,That's foolish.
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke if that's the case right and wrong does not exist, so why should a man feel guilty for driving drunk and running over someone, or robbing, or rape or any of that. it makes no sense. Science always plays the "We don't know yet, but we will, or even if we don't your not right" line. And you fail to understand that, no one is saying things are evil because God says so, what we are saying is, you already understand this concept, even those who do not know God, why?
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Where did it come from? it has preexistence to us. it's like we were made to understand right and wrong. Our laws are in place to prevent said actions, there are laws fro everything, even the universe so "morality would be arbitrary" if God existed again makes no sense to say, there are laws period and laws and put in place, they don't appear from nothing. A general understanding must be formed for individuals to understand HOW to act according to existence.
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke You may feel your property being stolen is not right, and needs justice to be served to the thief, but without documentation of said right, how is it wrong? If God exist (For sake of argument I'm leaving room for error) God would have to state these laws so that creation can obey the moral standard. We already see what happens in societies who don't obey laws at all or lets them be bent by rulers, chaos.
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke And that's the exact problem for Atheist and those who embrace Evolution and Big bang,it's pretty much saying this,We came from absolutely nothing, some force was made somehow by NOTHING, we developed moral concepts from NOTHING. It hinges on Chaos turning into order, which is impossible,it ignores the the statistics that show life cannot be by mistake. All numbers factored are ridiculously unlikely. Like a Tornado creating a fully functional car going through a scrap yard.
@psychedellic420 Your answer rings true from a Biblical perspective. Basically people hate the true & living God of the Bible & don't want Him at all (just like you, Romans 1:18-32, Romans 3:10-20, Rom 8:7-8, etc) & would rather be damned (2 Thess 2:9-12). God even mentions this hatred in the 10 Commandments (Deuteronomy 5:9). Proverbs 16:4 says God made the wicked "for the day of evil" & will torment them in hell (see our 4 hour series, type "LARRY WESSELS HELL") to satisfy His justice & glory.
@psychedellic420 We have many videos on your question & I'll give you the references however keep in mind that the God of the Bible only chooses a few to believe in Him (see our "UNPOPULAR BIBLE DOCTRINES" 11 hour series here on YOUTUBE) & the rest He turns over to believe lies so they'll be damned (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). We provide many evidences for God but whether you accept them is another matter. Type "LARRY WESSELS EVOLUTION" in the YOUTUBE search box, look for CREATION SCIENCE series.
@Helotes420 Man, you're certainly a bold LIAR. But since you don't believe in God, LYING should come natural to you. O'Hair wanted NOTHING to do with any Christian so hiring one to work in her Atheist Center is the last thing she would have done, get it? Wikipedia says, "O'Hair's estranged son William Murray publicly stated that his mother had a tendency to hire violent atheist criminals because "She got a sense of power out of having men in her employ who had taken human life." She was EVIL.
@CAnswersTV - Ditto, O`Hair was intolerant, and was a control freak. Her shutting the door in peoples faces ought to speak volumes, concerning her nature, and character.
@halflifeproductionz There are many false & nonexistent "gods." However, the true & living God of the Bible has power over life & death (Deuteronomy 32:39-43, "I will render vengeance to mine enemies, & will reward them that hate me. I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, & my sword shall devour flesh...") & since He is the Creator of the universe (Genesis 1:1, Isaiah 48:13), He does what He pleases (Isaiah 46:9-11). God hates the wicked (Psalm 5:5 & 11:5) thus He kills them (Genesis 6-7).
@knapper2000 "Thou shalt not kill" is from Exodus 20:13 in the King James Version of the Bible. A better translation into English is "You shall not murder" in the New American Standard Version. God has ordained capitol punishment for crimes in both the Old & New Testaments & this is not considered "murder." Military service & killing in times of war is not considered "murder" (see Joshua for example). "Murder" however is different from the killing in war & civil justice (remember Cain & Abel).
@CAnswersTV So why did God allow polygamy? And why does he give us free will, but kills the wicked for being wicked? Is it not their will to be wicked? Why did your all-powerful god have to rest on the seventh day of creation? And why is the book translated so much; don't you think they might have messed up somewhere in between?
@SmervinMervin24 Just admit it, you're an atheist because you HATE God (just like we said in our 3 hour video series on Atheism here on YOUTUBE). Atheists cannot prove that there is no God but they sure can HATE Him & attack Him because they simply don't like the way God operates. Whether I answer your questions or not won't matter because you already HATE the God of the Bible. You don't believe the Bible to begin with because you HATE it so what's the point. See our website BIBLEQUERY ORG.
@CAnswersTV I don't hate any religion. I simply choose not to believe what you believe. Point to the evidence that I hate your god. Or are you just making this assumption on blind faith, like all your other assumptions?
@SmervinMervin24 You're in denial (not an assumption). Do you HATE the following teachings: God says you're a "fool" & you're "corrupt" & your works are "abominable" (Psalm 14:1). "If I whet my glittering sword, & mine hand take hold on judgment: I will render vengeance to mine enemies, & will reward them that HATE Me" (Deuteronomy 32:41). "He that is not with Me is against Me" (Luke 11:23). "God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie" so they'll be damned (2 Thess 2:11).
While I don't favor answering questions with another question, an exception to that rule is warranted here and therefore I ask you the following:
Why would you, a creature of God, question what God, your Creator, does or does not do? Or better yet, what authority, grounds or power, if any allows you to challenge/question His actions?
Answer the above and then we can initiate some dialogue here!
@engeleefsting Who said anything about being "forced" to believe in a religion. The question being put forth in the video is whether God exists & is there any rational justification for such a belief. Being "forced" to believe in anything is not the issue. Madalyn Murray O'Hair hates the very idea of God & thus "hates" those who promulgate the concept of God existing in reality. America has freedom of religion & that is why O'Hair tried to immigrate to the atheistic USSR but was turned away.
@CAnswersTV I'm mean the forced thing about people knocking on their door wanting to debate because she doesn't believe in (a) "god". And your wondering why she said: "Oh it's one of you crazy christians" (or something like that)
@engeleefsting Your attention span must not be very good or else it might be your retention in remembering things. Either go back & watch this short little 10 minute clip again or else see the entire 1 hour show where this 10 minute clip came from, namely our Youtube video entitled, "DEBATE WITH ENRAGED, INFURIATED & HOSTILE "NO GOD" ATHEISTS #2: THOSE WHO DESPISE & HATE GOD" (feel free to watch the 1 hour show #1 also). It was O'Hair's son Jon who invited Larry Wessels to the Atheist Center.
@CAnswersTV Yes it was here son you are right, but if she knows nothing about it to her it's just someone who wants to debate without her knowing anything about it.
@engeleefsting Whether she knew about it or not based on her son telling her or not is not the point. The point is O'Hair was not being "forced" into anything at all, get it? She barely let Larry Wessels speak a few words before she slammed the door in his face, how is that being "forced" into anything? When Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons come to my door, if I have time, I invite them in & offer them something to drink & we talk. I don't consider them "forcing" me to believe their religion.
Comparing modern day atheist to Mrs. O Hair is like comparing current day Christians with Jim Jones or David Koresh of Waco. Too radical!!! I personally resigned from her group because of that. We dont go around insulting christians or making fun of them. We DEBATE. Debate is the cornerstone of a great democracy! By the way, I am an atheist (Rationalist) married to a roman catholic and weve been married 33 years, 2 kids and 2 grandkids!
@Discodad54 As typical atheists do, you've committed several logical fallacies in your argument. You start out with a FALSE ANALOGY trying to draw a parallel when there is no true parallel. O'Hair was an atheist & modern atheists equally say there is NO GOD. Jim Jones & David Koresh were not Christians, no PARALLEL. Next, you commit a HASTY GENERALIZATION about atheists not being insulting. They cuss me on Youtube all the time. Your debate & family arguments are RED HERRINGS & thus mean nothing.
@CAnswersTV Thank you for your response. Ive never personaly insulted you sir, and my family does mean something to me, you see I raised my children to respect other peoples beliefs HAVE YOU? The term ATHEIST is becoming archaic .My analogy was correct and youve proved that. I love to debate christians on certain items in the bible but i noticed the ones i do debate get really upset. So answer this. Why are SOME christians scared of atheist?
@Discodad54 Based on your response here, you simply prove what I said earlier about your logical fallacies in argumentation. Your claim of "not insulting" me doesn't prove that other atheists have not (CARD STACKING FALLACY). Next, your "family" & "respect" argument is a RED HERRING FALLACY simply because it doesn't prove atheism (Karl Marx cared less about his family). You're BEGGING THE QUESTION about your "analogy." You've committed the COMPLEX QUESTION FALLACY concerning the word "scared."
@CAnswersTV Youll have to forgive me. Its obvious your more intellegent than I am. Are you one of the guys on this video?By the way SIR, you didnt answer my question, If you have children, did you raise them to respect other peoples beliefs?????And whats with the Red Herring? are you a fisherman?PS How do you know Karl Marx didnt care for his family?If you would like to debate the bible, I have a few questions.
@Discodad54 It's obvious you haven't studied the laws of logic (which is one reason why you say there is no God). In logic, a RED HERRING is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. Your "family," "respect," "debating" etc. do not prove that God doesn't exist, get it? Read "The Philosophers" by Scharfstein (Oxford University Press) to learn about Karl Marx. Titus 3:10 says I've spent enough time with you. Watch our videos instead.
Many of us say there is no god or gods in the same way we say there are no dragons, tooth fairies, or Santa Claus. It is always with the unspoken understanding that if evidence should show differently, we would accept a different conclusion. By your logic, you would not deny that Zeus, Thor, etc. aren't real gods, as you can't prove a negative either.
@1940ruth Your comment is the logical fallacy of FALSE ANALOGY. You're basing your false conclusion on your personal life experiences which cannot be used to measure whether there is a God or not. There is too much information in the universe that you don't know about to conclusively declare that God does not exist. The fact that you haven't seen any proof to convince you in your own personal life that God exists means nothing. We've seen plenty (type "LARRY WESSELS ATHEISM" in YT search box).
No, you actually agree with me unless you are also agnostic about Santa Claus, dragons, the tooth fairy, Zeus, etc.
I know there are many things that are true that I have not experienced and don't discount things just because of that. Unless there is a god that is just playing tricks on people, though, there is none. There are simply too many conflicting descriptions of gods people think they know are real. (The Hebrew god in Genesis was one of many.)
@1940ruth You totally missed the point that you committed a logical fallacy. Do you even know what the fallacy of FALSE ANALOGY is (obviously not)? Let me help you, short definition - to draw a parallel when there is no true parallel (example, "If you're brave enough to take a shower you're brave enough to swim the ocean."). You do the same thing by bringing up Santa Claus, etc in relation to an all powerful intelligent creator of the universe. God sends delusion ( 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).
You see my reasoning as fallacy only because you "believed" first and see only what agrees with your conclusion. Read more science. Read the October 2010 article in the Telegraph:
"Stephen Hawking: God was not needed to create the Universe
"The Big Bang was the result of the inevitable laws of physics and did not need God to spark the creation of the Universe, Stephen Hawking has concluded."
@1940ruth Stephen Hawking is a crippled old man about to realize his eternal mistake. Hawking, a materialist, cannot make statements on metaphysics & the fourth dimension, get it? Hawking is limited to the here & now & you are putting all your trust in this guy? 100 years from now your "science" will be much different than it is today (it changes constantly). Darwin's theories have been destroyed by this. "TRUTH" must exist, thus skepticism is FALSE. That which changes cannot be TRUE, get it?
Really? Atheists dont find it wrong to kill? You dont have to believe in any God to have morals. If God said nothing against murder, christians would do it anyway because God didnt say it was wrong? Le sigh. and he killed her for money, not because he was an atheists who felt murder was ok. Get your facts straight guys in the video.
@maek47 The facts are straight but you missed the point & that's why you're making this misguided comment. The facts are that no one was saying that atheists didn't have a form of a corrupted & self induced belief system that they would loosely call morality. Atheists construct a silly putty standard of morality not based on the standards put forth by God but on their own self-serving ideas about what "morality" is. That's the point, get it? Stalin may think "murder" is good while you may not.
man she is such a bitter loud mouth women. full of hate. I bet right now she is really wishing she wouldn't have denied Jesus Christ and went the whole athiest route. Rational thought won't help her now.
Brother Wessel you are a bold man to go to an unmarked bldg in what sounds like the woods...to meet these folks who hate God or hate the existence of God or hate the idea of his existence or deny his existence because they say he does not exist so therefore they must disagree with what does not exist because that is the only way to prove it does exist because if it existed then they would be accountable to what does not exist but how can they be because they say it does exist...make sense?
@phimos5392 Fascinating comment! I like it! I find it interesting that the atheists have had to hide themselves behind bushes & unmarked buildings to promote their religious beliefs that God does not exist. If Madalyn Murray O'Hair's son had not given me directions I'd never have found the place. I wasn't worried about going there since I saw these guys every month because their television studio time was scheduled right ahead of mine (theirs from 9am to noon) & mine (noon to 6:00 pm) at ACTV.
Excellent clip...thanks for uploading. This is the first time I have ever heard any of her clips. I only knew her name & what she stood for. She sounds like SOME of the atheists here on YT...angry & unreasonable. Notice I said SOME...there are those that will at least listen.
It's wrong to kill because of the pain it costs, and most humans know that pain and do not enjoy the feeling and therefore know its wrong to kill. Simple. No god needed.
@corktech Bad analogy, doesn't hold water (see MrJazzman's question to you). Anyway, in the book, "How to Think about God" the author Mortimer Adler says if one employs the the legal standards of proof by preponderance of evidence & proof beyond reasonable doubt as in court cases, "If I am able to say no more than that a preponderance of reasons favour believing that God exist, I can still say I have advanced reasonable grounds for that belief..." In other words, the belief in God is rational.
What amazes me is that the hatred she had for Christianity. You can hear it in her voice and her words. I pray that she found God before she died. That was a terrible thing that happened to her.
@Prof2You, (continued)...dubbys was just being a little immature. He is hypocritical for thinking that I'm the only one calling him names (which I admit that I did call him a sociopath), yet he's the main one insulting and berrating me with repetitive namecalling. I think it's unfair. My parents were not big church goers. Thanks for the encouragement. Bye.
@Nashhinton As a minister and someone who has also experienced severe abuse as a young child, you have my sympathies and my prayers also my congratulations for accepting Christ. By him, all of our wounds will be healed! God bless you!
Boy, talk about belligerent, antagonistic and obnoxious. Debate, my ear; that clip of her and Martin was little more than a cantankerous shoutfest. When challenged by someone like Martin who knows what he's talking about and backs it all up with documented fact, she resorts to ridicule, yelling and faulty argument. She attacked with reckless abandon, but when someone reared up & struck back, she'd switch hats and play the victim card.
How does having a God that will forgive you of any sin, including murder, any better than an Atheist who doesn't believe in a God? Either way their afterlife is not in jeopardy. Don't act like Atheists morals are any different than anyone else's morals in a similar culture. You know that your reaction to ending someones life is similar to the way that I described it in my previous comment.
The thing that keeps me from killing human beings, as an Atheist, is putting myself in a hypothetical situation where I have murdered someone and the first thing that comes to mind is the emotions I imagine that I would feel, such as guilt, fear and regret. Guilty of taking another humans one chance at existence, and the pain I have caused their loved ones. Fear of the consequences of the actions I had committed. Regretting that this selfish act put me and their loved ones in this horrible pain.
@FantomL0rd The Bible says you have all these feeling of "guilt" because God gave you a conscience to know right from wrong & God established rulers & authorities to execute judgment on wrong doers such as murderers, etc. Consequently, an atheist then will feel the same "guilt" pangs as any other religionist out there since God has made this a universal human condition. The problem for atheists is that objective, trancendent laws of logic, values, beauty exist, etc. which defy atomic evolution.
@CAnswersTV Is the bible the only place where you get your information? If God gave everyone the feeling of guilt, why are serial killers out there? Also I would feel guilty for raping a girl, and that isn't sin. So why do I feel guilt for doing things that aren't considered against God, but I don't feel guilty for doing things that are against God, like using his name in vain and not keeping the sabbath holy?
@FantomL0rd Logically, either all religions (including the religion of atheism - see our 3 hour video series here on Youtube entitled, "Examining the Religion of Atheism" - type "LARRY WESSELS ATHEISM" in the Youtube search box to find it) are wrong or one of them must be right since they all contradict each other. From our standpoint Biblical Christianity passes the test (see our website BIBLEQUERY ORG for more on this). God turns the wicked over to a REPROBATE MIND (Romans 1:22-32, Prov 16:4).
I think it was Socrates who demolished the fallacy that morality comes from god(?).
Morality MUST exist outside of god for obvious reasons. If god were to suggest that keeping slaves was moral - THIS DOES NOT MAKE IT SO.
Believers (unfortunately) never seem to question the morality of god. Personal responsibility is a key facet of morality - unquestioningly following the orders of an authority figure is not.
@go1godfurther Morality is established by God because it reflects His character. 1. If God does not exist, transcendent, objective values of good & evil do not exist. 2. Evil does exist. 3. Therefore objective values exist, & some things are really, basically, fundamentally bad. 4. Therefore God exists. God is much more than a transcendent moral being (He is also eternal, self-existent & omnipotent, etc), yet as soon as the atheist draws a distinction between right & wrong he runs into problems.
@CAnswersTV Whats interesting is also that Atheist ignore the horrible person Madalyn was. Atheist talk about morality, and how immoral and inhumane believers are. Yet this woman disowned her own son because he started believing in god. What type of monster does that??? She was described by her son as being a horrible person. So my point is atheist are hypocrites in some of their beliefs on morality. Madalyn was one of the immoral people who ever existed. She did not care about anyone.
@Carriecarrington Pretty ignorant statement. You are basing that all Atheists are hypocrites because one woman who happened to be an atheist was a "horrible person"? That is like me saying that all Christians are serial killing homosexual cannibals just because Jeffery Dahmer was a christian. Not to mention you called her a monster for disowning her son for believing in God, which I also agree is bad, but Christians and people of other religions disown there children for Atheism all the time.
@Carriecarrington Yeah it does, I was showing you how your statement is basing that all Atheists are hypocrites because one Atheist is a hypocrite, which makes no sense.
@FantomL0rd The most ignorant statement that can be made is saying, "God does not exist." Even God calls anyone that would say this a "fool" (Psalm 14:1). Jeffery Dahmer claimed to be a Christian before he died but not while he did his terrible deeds (many people take God more seriously when death is near & whether Dahmer was a real Christian at the end remains to be seen). Therefore atheism in itself is an IGNORANT STATEMENT because it declares something it CANNOT prove with any finality.
It is an atheist's subjective opinion. NO Christian agrees with the interpretation of the Bible. You all cherry pick what you agree with and ignore what you don't like. Your belief is also a subjective opinion.
@PatrioticEagle50 Exactly. The Jehovah's Witnesses think the Catholics are lost, who think the Mormons are lost, who think the Baptists are lost, who think everyone else is lost... It's all subjective.
@jajohnson7809 Since you have taken it upon yourself to agree with the ignorant declarations of "PatrioticEagle50" then you have made yourself to look just as ignorant as him. You too did not know of the many creeds of Christianity standing throughout church history (see our website HISTORYCART COM on early Christian church history) thus leading to your logically false conclusion about JWs, Catholics, Mormons, etc (FALSE ANALOGY). Why make this asinine statement since you're religion ignorant?
@PatrioticEagle50 Spoken like a true scholar of theology! Your comment is filled with falsehood & logical fallacies. An atheist is opinionated acording to the particular lusts that he prefers. "No Christian agrees with the interpretation of the Bible", wow what a declaration! Have you ever heard of creeds or statements of faith. Have you ever hear of the 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith for instance? Your ignorance is truly amazing, that's why you can say that God does not exist (Ps 14:1).
Actually this was the most pathetic commentary on Madalyn's life and death. Morality is not exclusive to religion. The folks that killed Madalyn and her family did so because she found out that her former copywriter had murdered someone when he was a teen and also had threatened his mother later on in life. She basically outed him as a bad person and this is why he, and two of his friends killed, then chopped up Madalyn, her son, and her niece and hid them away.
@rawmark Biblically speaking, "morality" is ingrained into every human being, whether they claim a formal religion, quasi-religion or religious atheism (see our your 3 hour series EXAMINING THE RELIGION OF ATHEISM here on Youtube, atheists have a lot of "religious" FAITH that God is not there, thus atheists have "religion" too) of one sort or another. The reason for this is that God put it into every person. Romans 1:19, "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them." Psalm 14:1.
@CAnswersTV So if I, as an atheist, am a member of the atheist religion as you say are you, as a non-believer of leprechauns a member of the non-leprechaun religion? and the anti-Zeus religion? and the anti-Flying Pink Unicorn religion? and the non-Humpty Dumpty religion? and the anti-Spiderman religion?
Spiderman even has a book. Many books actually. And Spiderman lives in New York, which exists! ALL religions have tenets, what are the tenets of the atheist religion? No one ever told me.
@croyd One very obvious "TENET" of the atheist religion (see our 3 hour series here on Youtube, "Examining the Religion of Atheism" for a more detailed explanation) is its universal use of ILLOGIC. For instance, you immediately present your case with the use of the illogical fallacies of FALSE ANALOGY & STRAWMAN ("leprechauns" etc). By this reasoning you argue then that God CANNOT exist since "I'm without belief", get it? IRRATIONALITY & ASSUMPTION are prime characteristics of religious atheism.
@CAnswersTV Actually I was not using the analogy to show that god cannot exist. I was using it to show the religion of atheism would be the same as the religion of leprechauns. I never said god does not exist. I said I am an atheist. That is I have no belief in a god. Just as I have no belief in leprechauns. My lack of belief does not mean that leprechauns don't exist just that I haven't been presented with convincing evidence that they do.
@croyd Well then, you're not an atheist since a religious atheist has FAITH that God does not exist, get it?Once again see our 3 hour series on Youtube entitled, "Examining the Religion of Atheism" which gives dictionary definitions of atheism & how atheists don't BELIEVE in the EXISTENCE of a god & live that way. Based on what you're saying you're really just an AGNOSTIC (based on the Greek words "a" "gnosis" meaning "without knowledge", in simpler terms you're "IGNORANT" as a clear definition.
@CAnswersTV I would agree that I am not a "religious atheist" with faith. I am an atheist based on the definition of: "a disbelief in the existence of deity". A-theism Without-Belief in a god. I am also an agnostic as I don't claim to know whether or not a god exists. There are multiple degrees of atheism and several definitions. You do not decide which definition I use to define myself. My lack of belief requires no faith. I have not yet been convinced of the existence of a deity.
@croyd You CANNOT be an atheist, "degree" or no "degree" (although you may THINK you're one & live as if there is no God) because an atheist (the word means NO GOD) BELIEVES & HAS FAITH that God does not exist, get it? You DON'T fit this definition. You CLAIM that you "DON'T KNOW" if a deity EXISTS or not MEANING you're an AGNOSTIC (ignorant about the EXISTENCE of DEITY, get it?). Atheists DO NOT BELIEVE a deity is there AT ALL but you leave a POSSIBILITY for it. MADALYN would be ASHAMED of you.
@CAnswersTV If atheism is a 'faith' then NOT being a policeman is an occupation. Do you GET THAT?
Calling any non-theist position a 'faith' is a childish attempt to tar everyone with the same brush. It says "okay, I may be irrational but you are equally irrational". It's transparent, says more about yourself than anything else, and quite frankly is an argument which belongs in the childrens playground.
@go1godfurther Will you stop with this childish ILLOGIC?! The only ones crying like a baby are the atheists when someone calls them out for having a RELIGIOUS FAITH that God does not exist, get it? Atheists have a FAITH that God does not exist, especially the Biblical one, & will spend their lives trying to convince themselves that they are right about this even though they can't PROVE IT, get it? Deep down the atheist knows he's here on earth but he just doesn't want to BELIEVE that God did it.
@croyd - I like to correct you on the term "religion of Atheism". Atheism is NOT a religion. Religion is defined on a belief of a group of people who believe in a God or gods. Since Atheism is a non-belief the term cannot qualify as a religion based on the definition you have used.
This is a sick video, Larry looks almost jovial as he describes the tragic murder of three people. At one point Steve questions how atheists can explain their sense of morality. Well here's your answer Steve: most atheists are humanists, right and wrong is based on actions that avert or cause suffering. Assuming that morality is consanguineous with christianity (or any religion for that matter) is as stupid an assumption as there ever was.
@20vtmk1 This video is very HEALTHY & your analysis from the illogical atheist position is SICK rationally. Don't you know that it's ERRONEOUS to assume that merely giving an alternate explanation for something automatically refutes any other interpretation? Was Stalin a humanist or an atheist? Was Hitler a humanist, atheist, occultist, or religionist? Your ILLOGICAL humanist ASSUMPTION about wrong & right doesn't fly concerning fixed laws of morality. God created morality & logic, not Mao.
@CAnswersTV To answer your first question, I do know that. That is why I never refuted an explanation, instead I offered an explanation to a question. Second, I used the word "most", as in MOST atheists are humanists. Assuming things exist in one of two conditions without possibility of gradient is foolish. Hitler and Stalin were many things, as are we. People do what feels good to them, this is not an assumption. Think hard, morality is a function of culture. Refute my words.
@20vtmk1 First, you admit I'm right, that's good. Second, just claiming the word "most" does NOT prove your proposition in any way. You need to prove to us that "most" atheists ARE humanists (using a dictionary definition of HUMANIST in specific terms, contrasted to the dictionary term, "atheist" such as in the FREE MERRIAM-WEBSTER DICTIONARY which defines "atheism" as "ungodliness, wickedness." People DO NOT always do "what feels good to them," this is a RIDICULOUS ASSUMPTION. Do you pay taxes?
@CAnswersTV No-one has ever killed in the name of Atheism, they have killed in the name of greed, political ideology or God. It really is that simple.
@MarilynFilth Have you ever heard of "Practical Atheism"? The underlying motivation for "greed, political ideology or God" when it comes to people getting "killed in the name of" is really practical atheism when it doesn't conform to the Biblical standard (with the assumption here being the only true & living God is the Biblical God). When the established laws of the Biblical God are ignored (10 commandments, etc) then people MAKE THEIR OWN RULES - atheism) thus murder, theft, etc are justified.
@CAnswersTV Oh so a person gets their inspiration to murder from the bible, kills someone, all of a sudden they're an atheist because they broke one of the many contradictory commands in the bible.
Oh, and by the way, the ten commandments are not the only commandments in the bible, there's over 100 and they're oddly specific. What's more, the ten commandments have the underlying subject "jew" i.e. Thou shalt not kill...a jew. Thou shalt not steal...from a jew.
@ihaterobbie123 You're making several logical fallacies in your argument here (atheists typically do, a common trait) namely, FALSE ANALOGY & HASTY GENERALIZATION on your first sentence & BEGGING THE QUESTION & NON SEQUITUR on your second sentence. I can see critical reasoning is not your forte. Anyway, any nut can commit murder & blame it on the Bible, atheism is not required, get it? Next, there are 613 OT commands & your "jew" conclusion is false (now the Talmud is another matter completely).
@CAnswersTV "practical atheism" Well sorry if everything I said isn't implied in your definition of practical atheism...oh wait, it is. Anything (not of) religion is atheistic in nature and therefore killing for money is an example of practical atheism. That makes as much sense as saying everything (not of) colour is smell. If something cannot be seen it can be smelled.
How about this right? The actions of people speak for what they acted upon, how about we apply it fairly?
@ihaterobbie123 By now saying "practical atheism" instead of "atheism" you feel all your logical fallacies are okay?! I see that you could not counter anything that was said to your last reply so now you try to employ another logical fallacy called EQUIVOCATION by shifting your definitions to suit your purposes. Here you EQUIVOCATE by saying "anything (not of) religion is atheistic" & then use a NON SESEQUITUR "killing for money is ... practical atheism." 2 FALLACIES don't make a good argument!
@CAnswersTV Shifting MY definitions? I'm attempting to understand YOUR definitions. Don't for one second think you can get away with leaving your position unclear and set traps for people to fall into. All of these examples of logical fallacies you say I'm committing is just my futile attempt to understand a position you intentionally made unclear.
Either clarify your definition of "practical atheism" or go away.
PS."& then use a NON SESEQUITUR" actually it wasn't, it followed logically.
@ihaterobbie123 You admit, at least, that you DID NOT understand the definitions being employed by the use of "atheism" on one hand & the term "practical atheism" on the other & by doing so have granted my proposition that you DID indeed EQUIVOCATE (you mixed definitions). Understand that a "practical atheist" (not conforming to Biblical standards but could be religious) is NOT an "actual atheist," get it? Your NON SEQUITUR (due to EQUIVOCATION) came in your conclusion -kill, color, smell.
@ricktor002 It all depends on what you mean by "christians" doesn't it? The Pope & his "church" are considered to be "christians" by many despite the fact that hundreds of thousands have been murdered by the Pope through the Crusades, the Inquisition, & countless other political acts by the Vatican. Many of the TV evangelists & their money grubbing ways are considered to be "christians" despite their immoral lifestyles. The fact is, the Bible itself says there aren't many REAL christians (Mt 7).
I haven't said anything whatsoever about debates. But the fact is, conversion of others to religion tends to be a central philosophy of most religions. It may be that I've simply come into contact with it more, but it seems Christianity is a main offender in this way. The word "Repent" is a favorite piece of vocabulary for Christians, and is a one word proclamation that "You're wrong, we're right, now come be on our side."
@Dakren1984 You fail to see the FALLACY in your own argumentation. You're debating with us & "candiceevans1" here to argue that "Christianity is a main offender in this way" since you say Christianity says "You're wrong, we're right". Can't you see that you are accusing Christianity of what you yourself are doing right now, namely saying Christians are "wrong" & you're "right"?! Christianity claims to be the TRUTH of our present reality (John 14:6). If Christianity is TRUE then others are FALSE.
@jonathanjoey Atheism is a religion, didn't you know that? If not, see our 3 hour series here on YOUTUBE entitled, "Examining the Religion of Atheism." Your so-called "science" in your mind is either PSYCHOLOGY (also known as "PSYCHOBABBLE") defined by Siegmond Freud (a guy who had sex with his sister & ended up thinking he was Jesus Christ) or Carl Jung (a guy who said he grew up in a haunted house) or Monkey Religion created by Charles Darwin (the only college degree he had was in religion).
@CAnswersTV It's hard to understand since Christianity and most major 'organisations' are so repellent and opressive to me, preaching hate&fueling worldwide intolerance. 'Atheism' is a 'belief' (not religion!) in what can be proven. There's no spiritual book written 2000yrs ago by vastly different societies to this one, which preach dated rules on living. Atheists learn FACTS and live by them. The world is just a rock in a vast nothingness and you people and your egos have to deal with that!
@jonathanjoey First of all you must remember that the God of the Bible creates people for a destiny in hell (Romans 9:18-22, Proverbs 16:4) & turns unbelievers over to a reprobate mind to do wrong (Romans 1:18-32) which at this moment is exactly what God has decided to do with you. Next, your bogus arguments about "Atheism is a belief (not religion!)", "Atheists learn FACTS," & your religious beliefs about the "world" are all based on logical fallacies: FALSE ANALOGY, BEGGING THE QUESTION, etc.
@CAnswersTV If you are quoting bible references to an atheist you clearly have zero intelligence. Quoting god's wishes to me is like telling me that the giant from Jack and the Beanstalk is going to steal my hen. Your argument consists of 'God says so'. Get a mind of your own and bore somebody else with your fairy tales. If heaven is full of arrogant Christians, I 'Thank God!!', irony intended, that I will spend eternity in hell.
@jonathanjoey Are you saying you are an "atheist" by this comment? The Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines atheism as "1. ungodliness, wickedness, 2. a) a disbelief in the existence of deity 2. b)the doctrine that there is no deity. Origin of Atheism: from Greek atheos, godless, from a- + theos god. All you have said is that you're the one with "zero intellengence" since you're saying that no god can EXIST in this UNIVERSE (even Anthony Flew or Einstein would diagree with you). Get a brain!
@CAnswersTV You are wonderful at confirming the ignorance of indoctrinated people. Get a brain? Why don't you get an original thought? You're a christian because of your background. You'd be a muslim or a hindu were your circumstances different. It's indoctrination, plain and simple, and throwing semantics at me in the form of dictionary quotations? Give me a break. If there were a god you'd be his worst representative. Luckily for you there isn't. So you're just wasting your life and my time.
@jonathanjoey Since you've let the cat out of the bag that you're an atheist it's wonderful to see how your atheist's mind works so ILLOGICALLY (by the way, see our 3 hour series here on Youtube entitled, EXAMINING THE RELIGION OF ATHEISM, with one episode entitled, THE ILLOGIC OF ATHEISM, or type LARRY WESSELS in the Youtube search box). Every sentence in your comment is based on logical fallacies: BEGGING THE QUESTION (you ASSUME I started as a Christian), AD HOMINEN, FALLACY OF OPPOSITION,etc
You fairy tale believers NEED to try to characterize atheism as a religion since it makes your religion look so silly. Atheism is a lack of belief. Your silly arguments aren't convincing. You have no evidence that your Jesus ever existed.
Man had a moral code long before your sadomasochistic cult was ever invented 2000 yrs ago. Your cult simply stole that code and now pretends it invented it. Your cult is a cheap plagiarization of other cults which came before it. Nothing more.
@MrTruthAddict Your YOUTUBE account name should be 'mrFOOLISHNESSaddict" for all the BULL you're stating here (proving God was right about you in Psalm 14:1). Atheism is a RELIGIOUS BELIEF about the existence of God, get it? See our 3 hour series on YOUTUBE entitled, "EXAMINING THE RELIGION OF ATHEISM" (or search LARRY WESSELS & find it). Your BOGUS comment about "moral code" shows your complete IGNORANCE. Have you ever heard of Moses & the 10 Commandments? Your "stole that code" is nonsense.
@DanielBerlinTV Ah, the Old Testament God of the Bible ALWAYS enrages the atheist because the Biblical God does not FIT into their preconceived notions of what God should be like if there were a God. The atheist, who aspires to be his own god, always finds fault with the Biblical God (particularly the works of God as found in the Old Testament: Noah's Flood, Joshua's destruction of pagan cities, etc.). The Biblical God can destroy the world if He wants & it isn't murder. Exodus 20:13 is murder.
wow. you actually tried to prove your point by making a MOCK DEBATE? ITS A MOCK DEBATE, she's not even there to defend herself, you retards. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
@TheLiberalSoup The only "retard" is you bud & you should be ashamed of yourself. IF you had bothered to watch the entire 2 hour debate here on YOUTUBE (search "Debate with Angry & Hostile Atheists") you'd of known that this whole presentation was put on because an atheist challenged for the debate then bugged out at the last moment. Having prepared for a live debate with a live atheist we weren't going to have the TV set time go to waste for nothing.Besides O'Hair IS defending herself, get it?
you think it was hard for god to make madalyn bow?LOL
uwique 1 month ago
I know she is in hell!!!!
sammygod09 1 month ago
shes an idiot!
uwique 1 month ago
she so rude and obnoxious!!
uwique 1 month ago
God is ALIVE!
margezamor 2 months ago
Sick Madelyne..it wasn't enough she wanted eternal death for herself but she drug her son and grand daughter into the same pit...controlled their lives where they couldn't get away from her....what a UGLY human being..not because she was an atheist but because she was an arrogant and a hateful person!
1927Norma 2 months ago
Every knee shall bow every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,Madalyn knows that already!
majorl311 2 months ago
@majorl311 AMEN!!! But, I would really rather Madalyn and Christopher Hitchens had come to Christ, I don't wish hell on anyone!!
bodom71 2 months ago
@bodom71I am with you about that one,its sad that they have this misunderstanding with God that could have been reconciled
majorl311 2 months ago
@majorl311 Amen!! There were countless Christians who were upset about the death of Madalyn and Christopher. I was really upset and even pleaded with God to show Him mercy, even though Christopher showed God no mercy. But, our God is indeed a just God.
bodom71 2 months ago
@bodom71 amen well God has said that He would that no one would perish that all would come to repentance ,they just don't understand it!
majorl311 2 months ago
@majorl311 Totally agree!!!
bodom71 2 months ago
When was this debate? There are Christians everywhere! even Korea, Japan, China, Iraq...the Gospel is being spread, and before Christs returns, everyone who can understand will ave heard!
dabadc 2 months ago
She ended up chopped up in body parts after employing a former criminal who ripped her off and then she wrote about his personal issues and intended to embarass him...he got his revenge against both her and her (other) son and her grand-daughter...they were all murdered and chopped up...sad...for all but not a surprise with her arrogance and ego and she was a rip off artist per se.. her son John who left and later became a Christian. Sad end and a sad lady...not my view she got her just deserts
1927Norma 4 months ago
As the church declines from its moral calling by God and buying into secular liberalism..popular for the last 40 years (although all the liberal churches are losing membership in droves and Evangelical churches are are the surge) but lliberal thinking has already infiltrated all the major colleges and seminaries and so for years....are so we have seen ONLY the decline of America..purely coincidental...I don't think so...
1927Norma 4 months ago
Islam is patient...it has time and numbers on their side..as we in the West despise the idea of large families...abort them...only so much air and water..be enviromentally correct...we average 2.5 children in America and less in Europe and Islam has 6-8 children..time and numbers are on their side...Utopia ideas will end by the edge of a sword...better wake up or lose your and your fathers world they fought for...to be left to a bunch of delinquents.
1927Norma 4 months ago
If I am wrong than in the history of Islam was there never a free republic ever....anywhere in its history...what has Islam created for history...get out the burkahs...its happening and unless Western society (which is constantly attacked as the evil of the world..not true) wakes up...it WILL happen.
1927Norma 4 months ago
Of course atheiest and marxists and leftists have now and intentionally try to use the constitution against its founders to allow ALL thing in...which is what Europe is fighting again with Islam and it is now on our shores...humans are inherrentaly religious...as we became more secular in America and Europe; Islam moved in and always intended ( since they beat as with an up front battle or economics) seek to infilatrate by using our freedoms agains ourselves to their benefit..Thanks ACLU...
1927Norma 4 months ago
My question is why do people hate God so much if they don't believe in Him? How can you hate Someone so much Who you don't believe even exists to begin with? Almost every atheist I've talked to has shown such a strong hate for Christians and God, where is this hate coming from? It's never failed with the hate from them, this Madalyn O'Hair is nothing but a big, bitchy whiner, she wouldn't hardly let the guy get a word in edgewise, so damn annoying when someone does that, and so damn rude....
TheStrawberryCloud 5 months ago
@TheStrawberryCloud And that's why when you read the bible, it tells you why people hate God and or won't accept him. Mock people for Jesus name and the whole 9 yards, it's the only religious (If you want to call it that) text in all religions that outline every single aspect of everything. Also, people don't understand, if this is all true which I'm saying it is, Christianity is not a religion, it's the way we are suppose to live, and what we are suppose to do. It actually is life.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@TheStrawberryCloud People will just reject it. You see constant attempts by all types of people to disprove God, you see kinds of attempts throughout history trying to get rid of Christianity, you see kinds of attempts of people trying to disprove Jesus in modern times, all kinds of attempts to make Christianity similar to other religions (Pagan, esoteric etc) But it hasn't worked, it's still here after all this time. Christianity is attacked constantly, verbally and violently.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@TheStrawberryCloud You'd think if this was all nonsense people would just *shrug and go on with their lives like they've done with Santa clause and Christmas saying (we know it's fake but hey lets just leave it be) but no, they go mad. They allow nonsense like Santa clause, and Halloween, a false Easter, pagan rituals etc to be done right in front of them, they celebrate it, not one of them cares.They try to mix Roman Catholic doings with Christianities to validate their attack on Christianity.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@Shadowlooker12 If there wasnt a church on every corner, a fanatic trying to teach this crap to my kids in school,or a religious pamphlet showing in my mailbox ever other week, atheists would more then likely do exactly as you suggest. But religion forces its self into our lives every day whether or not we want it to. Its a poison that spreads if not attacked, and so that is what we do. If religion kept to its self so would I.
Brianchse 4 months ago
@Brianchse You've conveniently forgotten that America was founded on Christian religious principles established by the founding fathers that extends back to the first Christian Pilgrims at Jamestown. Modern religious atheists such as yourself (including O'Hair & her ilk) have come along & attacked the very religious traditions of this country & attempted to change it into a secular state where "Monkey to Man" Darwinian Evolution Religion is the new religious "hatred of the Biblical God" faith.
CAnswersTV 4 months ago
@CAnswersTV You have conveniently forgotten that there is a separation of church and state written into our constitution. This country was NOT founded on christianity,The founding fathers were almost ALL atheist.Nowhere does the Constitution say: "The United States is a Christian Nation", or anything even close to that. Nowhere in the Constitution is religion mentioned, except in exclusionary terms.Now go ahead and block me again if your arguments are so weak you can not defend them(Brianchse)
MrLinuxgui 4 months ago
@MrLinuxgui YOu ARE soooo wrong..the FIRST amendment states: "Congress can make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or the abridging of freedom of speech or of the press or of the right of the people to peaceable assemble or of the right of the people to petition the governement for a redress of grievences." There is NO separation of church and state ever in the first amendment..just try READING...
1927Norma 4 months ago
@MrLinuxgui This was set up by the founding fathers to prevent a state church (not Mosque or Synagogue since none were a part of our American Heritage in the founding issue at the time; it was ONLY about Christian "church" issues) since all had hailed from some version of Christianity,....but that no one view of THAT faith could impose a state church that all others would have to adhere to. Ignorance of history is your MAJOR...get a refund from your college system. YOu deserve that.
1927Norma 4 months ago
@MrLinuxgui Again your constant ignorance of history since your education is soooo pooooorr..."in the year of our Lord "..Article VII dates the Constitution in "the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven." ..that was NOT KING GEORGE who we as Americans was a reference to at the time. George would have been very unborn by many amany years.......the ONLY LORD that FITS that is going back to the understood date is Christ Jesus...yes it was founded as a Christian society.
1927Norma 4 months ago
@1927Norma You sound like the typical liberal morons I have dealt with before...enjoy your St. Madelyne and you will be there shortly yourself...so why worry since it isn't true...move on.
1927Norma 3 months ago
@TheStrawberryCloud There is an agenda against it, always has been from years and years, once the power of the Roman Catholics decreased, at least to our perceived notion of them, people moved to more humanistic ideologies via the "Enlightenment" era towards modern times. This is where all this comes from, evolution and all other attempts to try to explain life without God, from the Dark Ages to Now. People saw the Church and believes it to be True Christianity, cause of atrocities.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
My question is why do people hate God so much if they don't believe in Him? How can you hate Someone so much Who you don't believe even exists to begin with? Almost every atheist I've talked to has shown such a strong hate for Christians and God, where is this hate coming from? It's never failed with the hate from them, this Madalyn O'Hair is nothing but a big, bitchy whiner, she wouldn't hardly let the guy get a word in edgewise, so damn annoying when someone does that, and so damn rude....
TheStrawberryCloud 5 months ago
@TheStrawberryCloud My question is why do you love a god in which there is no evidence of his exsistence? Why do you belive in a book that was written by man and written over 300 year after the so called death of jesus? Another question why do wait to go to heaven if its so good, after all heaven is enternity in where here is lets say 75 years ???? Another question why do say we hate as to hate implies there is something there to hate?
stonewall1888 4 months ago
@stonewall1888 As most atheists typically do you begin your argument against the existence of God with a logical fallacy called BEGGING THE QUESTION. Your argument begins with the ASSUMPTION that there is no evidence to support the view that God exists which is not true. There are many evidences for the existence of God but you refuse to accept any of them. Just because you have chosen to IGNORE all the evidences doesn't mean you're right. Your other ASSUMPTIONS about "300 years" etc are false.
CAnswersTV 4 months ago
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke your 'arbitrary morality" logic proves God's existence; laws of logic are God’s standard for thinking. God is an unchanging, sovereign, immaterial Being, & the laws of logic are abstract, universal, invariant entities. That is, they aren't made of matter—they apply everywhere and at all times. Laws of logic are contingent upon God’s unchanging nature, & necessary for logical reasoning. Thus, rational reasoning would be impossible without the biblical God.
bigblick101 5 months ago
2 minutes in and they are asking they claim atheists have no basis to say why killing a person is worse than killing a flower- the answer is because a person experiences more suffering than a flower, and morality is about minimising suffering and maximising happiness.
flipping the script, if you think things are evil because God decided so, you don't really understand what's so evil about them. Even if God existed, he wouldn't be the 'moral author' because then morality would be arbitrary.
HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke 5 months ago
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Are you serious? You just committed the BEGGING THE QUESTION FALLACY going & coming. Your "flower" argument wilts because you're assuming "suffering" & "maximizing happiness" have anything to do with actual proof for verifiable morality in overall reality (how does this fit with an ascetic Buddhist or an incurious plant?). Your "flipped script" flops because your premise is a NON SEQUITUR based on a lack of a defined "evil" meaning (evil is good to some) & of God Himself.
CAnswersTV 5 months ago
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Morality is not just about minimizing suffering, that is an assumed aspect form atheist who embrace the evolutionary concept. Morality is about doing the CORRECT thing, Helping, the polar opposite of evil intention and suffering. it's really idiotic to beleive all morality is, is a construct of an evolve being who went from having no values at all to a moral being for no apparent reason at all. But to fill that void, Evolutionist say "oh well it's just working together"
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Organism work together, and seeing that we are highly evolve it's better to work together then not. Well tell that to the many tyrants of our species, Human men and women, who murder by mass amount for no reason. Those who are greedy, crazed, who believe killing is necessary to keep the population in check, as if we are animals breeding too much. Morals don't evolve, they don't just appear, they aren't a result of human interpretation or adaption to circumstance.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Morals are not essential to any organism that lives except us. Killing ensures the survival of a pack or group in the Animal kingdom,but to us, some of feel guilt, a sadness, regret for doing evil,why should we? it does not undermine our species, and even if it did, how can we have evolved an aspect that did not exist anywhere before in the human construct even IF we did come from a "common ancestor" Morals is far more then minimization of suffering.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Someone kills your best friend, you get angry, you feel sad, you say it's wrong, but instead of killing the one who did it, you forgive him. Why? you want people to beleive that you came to that conclusion based on minimization of suffering? No, it's because we have a concept of right and wrong, it just exist, and science cannot explain it, so they opt out for saying things like it's an evolution based concept we developed,That's foolish.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke if that's the case right and wrong does not exist, so why should a man feel guilty for driving drunk and running over someone, or robbing, or rape or any of that. it makes no sense. Science always plays the "We don't know yet, but we will, or even if we don't your not right" line. And you fail to understand that, no one is saying things are evil because God says so, what we are saying is, you already understand this concept, even those who do not know God, why?
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke Where did it come from? it has preexistence to us. it's like we were made to understand right and wrong. Our laws are in place to prevent said actions, there are laws fro everything, even the universe so "morality would be arbitrary" if God existed again makes no sense to say, there are laws period and laws and put in place, they don't appear from nothing. A general understanding must be formed for individuals to understand HOW to act according to existence.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke You may feel your property being stolen is not right, and needs justice to be served to the thief, but without documentation of said right, how is it wrong? If God exist (For sake of argument I'm leaving room for error) God would have to state these laws so that creation can obey the moral standard. We already see what happens in societies who don't obey laws at all or lets them be bent by rulers, chaos.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
@HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke And that's the exact problem for Atheist and those who embrace Evolution and Big bang,it's pretty much saying this,We came from absolutely nothing, some force was made somehow by NOTHING, we developed moral concepts from NOTHING. It hinges on Chaos turning into order, which is impossible,it ignores the the statistics that show life cannot be by mistake. All numbers factored are ridiculously unlikely. Like a Tornado creating a fully functional car going through a scrap yard.
Shadowlooker12 4 months ago
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HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke 5 months ago
Wow, comparing modern atheists to her is evidence they have not evolved in the least.
After growing up with the alternative, no wonder her son checked out the evidence for Christ and became a christian.
Galmozzi99 5 months ago
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Galmozzi99 5 months ago
O'Hair is a believer now.....
acedudeone 6 months ago
Walter made her look like the fool she was.
sandytinky 6 months ago
Martin was the best debater I've ever heard.
Pilgrim1411 7 months ago
Thanks' Larry, thanks' Walter.
13SharkBait 7 months ago
@psychedellic420 Your answer rings true from a Biblical perspective. Basically people hate the true & living God of the Bible & don't want Him at all (just like you, Romans 1:18-32, Romans 3:10-20, Rom 8:7-8, etc) & would rather be damned (2 Thess 2:9-12). God even mentions this hatred in the 10 Commandments (Deuteronomy 5:9). Proverbs 16:4 says God made the wicked "for the day of evil" & will torment them in hell (see our 4 hour series, type "LARRY WESSELS HELL") to satisfy His justice & glory.
CAnswersTV 7 months ago
@psychedellic420 We have many videos on your question & I'll give you the references however keep in mind that the God of the Bible only chooses a few to believe in Him (see our "UNPOPULAR BIBLE DOCTRINES" 11 hour series here on YOUTUBE) & the rest He turns over to believe lies so they'll be damned (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). We provide many evidences for God but whether you accept them is another matter. Type "LARRY WESSELS EVOLUTION" in the YOUTUBE search box, look for CREATION SCIENCE series.
CAnswersTV 7 months ago
@Helotes420 Man, you're certainly a bold LIAR. But since you don't believe in God, LYING should come natural to you. O'Hair wanted NOTHING to do with any Christian so hiring one to work in her Atheist Center is the last thing she would have done, get it? Wikipedia says, "O'Hair's estranged son William Murray publicly stated that his mother had a tendency to hire violent atheist criminals because "She got a sense of power out of having men in her employ who had taken human life." She was EVIL.
CAnswersTV 7 months ago
@CAnswersTV - Ditto, O`Hair was intolerant, and was a control freak. Her shutting the door in peoples faces ought to speak volumes, concerning her nature, and character.
TheFisherman57 6 months ago
why is it OKAY for god to kill and call for genocide?
halflifeproductionz 8 months ago
@halflifeproductionz There are many false & nonexistent "gods." However, the true & living God of the Bible has power over life & death (Deuteronomy 32:39-43, "I will render vengeance to mine enemies, & will reward them that hate me. I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, & my sword shall devour flesh...") & since He is the Creator of the universe (Genesis 1:1, Isaiah 48:13), He does what He pleases (Isaiah 46:9-11). God hates the wicked (Psalm 5:5 & 11:5) thus He kills them (Genesis 6-7).
CAnswersTV 7 months ago
@CAnswersTV But thou shalt not kill. The 10 commendments!
knapper2000 5 months ago
@knapper2000 "Thou shalt not kill" is from Exodus 20:13 in the King James Version of the Bible. A better translation into English is "You shall not murder" in the New American Standard Version. God has ordained capitol punishment for crimes in both the Old & New Testaments & this is not considered "murder." Military service & killing in times of war is not considered "murder" (see Joshua for example). "Murder" however is different from the killing in war & civil justice (remember Cain & Abel).
CAnswersTV 5 months ago
@CAnswersTV So why did God allow polygamy? And why does he give us free will, but kills the wicked for being wicked? Is it not their will to be wicked? Why did your all-powerful god have to rest on the seventh day of creation? And why is the book translated so much; don't you think they might have messed up somewhere in between?
SmervinMervin24 5 months ago
@SmervinMervin24 Just admit it, you're an atheist because you HATE God (just like we said in our 3 hour video series on Atheism here on YOUTUBE). Atheists cannot prove that there is no God but they sure can HATE Him & attack Him because they simply don't like the way God operates. Whether I answer your questions or not won't matter because you already HATE the God of the Bible. You don't believe the Bible to begin with because you HATE it so what's the point. See our website BIBLEQUERY ORG.
CAnswersTV 5 months ago
@CAnswersTV I don't hate any religion. I simply choose not to believe what you believe. Point to the evidence that I hate your god. Or are you just making this assumption on blind faith, like all your other assumptions?
SmervinMervin24 5 months ago
@SmervinMervin24 You're in denial (not an assumption). Do you HATE the following teachings: God says you're a "fool" & you're "corrupt" & your works are "abominable" (Psalm 14:1). "If I whet my glittering sword, & mine hand take hold on judgment: I will render vengeance to mine enemies, & will reward them that HATE Me" (Deuteronomy 32:41). "He that is not with Me is against Me" (Luke 11:23). "God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie" so they'll be damned (2 Thess 2:11).
CAnswersTV 5 months ago
@halflifeproductionz
While I don't favor answering questions with another question, an exception to that rule is warranted here and therefore I ask you the following:
Why would you, a creature of God, question what God, your Creator, does or does not do? Or better yet, what authority, grounds or power, if any allows you to challenge/question His actions?
Answer the above and then we can initiate some dialogue here!
Blessings.
paiderdursche 6 months ago
@halflifeproductionz Give a specific example of this genocide.
djx08 6 months ago
Richie Dawkin's shrill godmother Mad Maddie
salmagnum 8 months ago
I can pretty much agree with this women.
I honestly believe that people are free to believe whatever they want.
But if someone disagrees about there being a God don't force them a religion.
engeleefsting 8 months ago
@engeleefsting Who said anything about being "forced" to believe in a religion. The question being put forth in the video is whether God exists & is there any rational justification for such a belief. Being "forced" to believe in anything is not the issue. Madalyn Murray O'Hair hates the very idea of God & thus "hates" those who promulgate the concept of God existing in reality. America has freedom of religion & that is why O'Hair tried to immigrate to the atheistic USSR but was turned away.
CAnswersTV 8 months ago
@CAnswersTV I'm mean the forced thing about people knocking on their door wanting to debate because she doesn't believe in (a) "god". And your wondering why she said: "Oh it's one of you crazy christians" (or something like that)
engeleefsting 8 months ago
@engeleefsting Your attention span must not be very good or else it might be your retention in remembering things. Either go back & watch this short little 10 minute clip again or else see the entire 1 hour show where this 10 minute clip came from, namely our Youtube video entitled, "DEBATE WITH ENRAGED, INFURIATED & HOSTILE "NO GOD" ATHEISTS #2: THOSE WHO DESPISE & HATE GOD" (feel free to watch the 1 hour show #1 also). It was O'Hair's son Jon who invited Larry Wessels to the Atheist Center.
CAnswersTV 8 months ago
@CAnswersTV Yes it was here son you are right, but if she knows nothing about it to her it's just someone who wants to debate without her knowing anything about it.
engeleefsting 8 months ago
@engeleefsting Whether she knew about it or not based on her son telling her or not is not the point. The point is O'Hair was not being "forced" into anything at all, get it? She barely let Larry Wessels speak a few words before she slammed the door in his face, how is that being "forced" into anything? When Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons come to my door, if I have time, I invite them in & offer them something to drink & we talk. I don't consider them "forcing" me to believe their religion.
CAnswersTV 8 months ago
Comparing modern day atheist to Mrs. O Hair is like comparing current day Christians with Jim Jones or David Koresh of Waco. Too radical!!! I personally resigned from her group because of that. We dont go around insulting christians or making fun of them. We DEBATE. Debate is the cornerstone of a great democracy! By the way, I am an atheist (Rationalist) married to a roman catholic and weve been married 33 years, 2 kids and 2 grandkids!
Discodad54 9 months ago
@Discodad54 As typical atheists do, you've committed several logical fallacies in your argument. You start out with a FALSE ANALOGY trying to draw a parallel when there is no true parallel. O'Hair was an atheist & modern atheists equally say there is NO GOD. Jim Jones & David Koresh were not Christians, no PARALLEL. Next, you commit a HASTY GENERALIZATION about atheists not being insulting. They cuss me on Youtube all the time. Your debate & family arguments are RED HERRINGS & thus mean nothing.
CAnswersTV 9 months ago
@CAnswersTV Thank you for your response. Ive never personaly insulted you sir, and my family does mean something to me, you see I raised my children to respect other peoples beliefs HAVE YOU? The term ATHEIST is becoming archaic .My analogy was correct and youve proved that. I love to debate christians on certain items in the bible but i noticed the ones i do debate get really upset. So answer this. Why are SOME christians scared of atheist?
Discodad54 9 months ago
@Discodad54 Based on your response here, you simply prove what I said earlier about your logical fallacies in argumentation. Your claim of "not insulting" me doesn't prove that other atheists have not (CARD STACKING FALLACY). Next, your "family" & "respect" argument is a RED HERRING FALLACY simply because it doesn't prove atheism (Karl Marx cared less about his family). You're BEGGING THE QUESTION about your "analogy." You've committed the COMPLEX QUESTION FALLACY concerning the word "scared."
CAnswersTV 9 months ago
@CAnswersTV Youll have to forgive me. Its obvious your more intellegent than I am. Are you one of the guys on this video?By the way SIR, you didnt answer my question, If you have children, did you raise them to respect other peoples beliefs?????And whats with the Red Herring? are you a fisherman?PS How do you know Karl Marx didnt care for his family?If you would like to debate the bible, I have a few questions.
Discodad54 9 months ago
@Discodad54 It's obvious you haven't studied the laws of logic (which is one reason why you say there is no God). In logic, a RED HERRING is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. Your "family," "respect," "debating" etc. do not prove that God doesn't exist, get it? Read "The Philosophers" by Scharfstein (Oxford University Press) to learn about Karl Marx. Titus 3:10 says I've spent enough time with you. Watch our videos instead.
CAnswersTV 9 months ago
@CAnswersTV
Many of us say there is no god or gods in the same way we say there are no dragons, tooth fairies, or Santa Claus. It is always with the unspoken understanding that if evidence should show differently, we would accept a different conclusion. By your logic, you would not deny that Zeus, Thor, etc. aren't real gods, as you can't prove a negative either.
1940ruth 8 months ago
@1940ruth Your comment is the logical fallacy of FALSE ANALOGY. You're basing your false conclusion on your personal life experiences which cannot be used to measure whether there is a God or not. There is too much information in the universe that you don't know about to conclusively declare that God does not exist. The fact that you haven't seen any proof to convince you in your own personal life that God exists means nothing. We've seen plenty (type "LARRY WESSELS ATHEISM" in YT search box).
CAnswersTV 8 months ago
@CAnswersTV
No, you actually agree with me unless you are also agnostic about Santa Claus, dragons, the tooth fairy, Zeus, etc.
I know there are many things that are true that I have not experienced and don't discount things just because of that. Unless there is a god that is just playing tricks on people, though, there is none. There are simply too many conflicting descriptions of gods people think they know are real. (The Hebrew god in Genesis was one of many.)
1940ruth 8 months ago
@1940ruth You totally missed the point that you committed a logical fallacy. Do you even know what the fallacy of FALSE ANALOGY is (obviously not)? Let me help you, short definition - to draw a parallel when there is no true parallel (example, "If you're brave enough to take a shower you're brave enough to swim the ocean."). You do the same thing by bringing up Santa Claus, etc in relation to an all powerful intelligent creator of the universe. God sends delusion ( 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).
CAnswersTV 8 months ago
@CAnswersTV
You can't prove the bible by quoting the bible!
You see my reasoning as fallacy only because you "believed" first and see only what agrees with your conclusion. Read more science. Read the October 2010 article in the Telegraph:
"Stephen Hawking: God was not needed to create the Universe
"The Big Bang was the result of the inevitable laws of physics and did not need God to spark the creation of the Universe, Stephen Hawking has concluded."
1940ruth 8 months ago
@1940ruth Stephen Hawking is a crippled old man about to realize his eternal mistake. Hawking, a materialist, cannot make statements on metaphysics & the fourth dimension, get it? Hawking is limited to the here & now & you are putting all your trust in this guy? 100 years from now your "science" will be much different than it is today (it changes constantly). Darwin's theories have been destroyed by this. "TRUTH" must exist, thus skepticism is FALSE. That which changes cannot be TRUE, get it?
CAnswersTV 8 months ago
Really? Atheists dont find it wrong to kill? You dont have to believe in any God to have morals. If God said nothing against murder, christians would do it anyway because God didnt say it was wrong? Le sigh. and he killed her for money, not because he was an atheists who felt murder was ok. Get your facts straight guys in the video.
maek47 9 months ago
@maek47 The facts are straight but you missed the point & that's why you're making this misguided comment. The facts are that no one was saying that atheists didn't have a form of a corrupted & self induced belief system that they would loosely call morality. Atheists construct a silly putty standard of morality not based on the standards put forth by God but on their own self-serving ideas about what "morality" is. That's the point, get it? Stalin may think "murder" is good while you may not.
CAnswersTV 9 months ago
man she is such a bitter loud mouth women. full of hate. I bet right now she is really wishing she wouldn't have denied Jesus Christ and went the whole athiest route. Rational thought won't help her now.
Megz0510 9 months ago
That woman is deluded : /
04Redeemed 9 months ago
Brother Wessel you are a bold man to go to an unmarked bldg in what sounds like the woods...to meet these folks who hate God or hate the existence of God or hate the idea of his existence or deny his existence because they say he does not exist so therefore they must disagree with what does not exist because that is the only way to prove it does exist because if it existed then they would be accountable to what does not exist but how can they be because they say it does exist...make sense?
phimos5392 10 months ago
@phimos5392 Fascinating comment! I like it! I find it interesting that the atheists have had to hide themselves behind bushes & unmarked buildings to promote their religious beliefs that God does not exist. If Madalyn Murray O'Hair's son had not given me directions I'd never have found the place. I wasn't worried about going there since I saw these guys every month because their television studio time was scheduled right ahead of mine (theirs from 9am to noon) & mine (noon to 6:00 pm) at ACTV.
CAnswersTV 10 months ago
Excellent clip...thanks for uploading. This is the first time I have ever heard any of her clips. I only knew her name & what she stood for. She sounds like SOME of the atheists here on YT...angry & unreasonable. Notice I said SOME...there are those that will at least listen.
phimos5392 10 months ago
It's wrong to kill because of the pain it costs, and most humans know that pain and do not enjoy the feeling and therefore know its wrong to kill. Simple. No god needed.
corktech 10 months ago
@corktech Do animals feel pain when they kill? Why do humans?
MrJazzeman 10 months ago
@corktech Bad analogy, doesn't hold water (see MrJazzman's question to you). Anyway, in the book, "How to Think about God" the author Mortimer Adler says if one employs the the legal standards of proof by preponderance of evidence & proof beyond reasonable doubt as in court cases, "If I am able to say no more than that a preponderance of reasons favour believing that God exist, I can still say I have advanced reasonable grounds for that belief..." In other words, the belief in God is rational.
CAnswersTV 10 months ago
She is an angry, angry, ignorant woman.
RbnHd123456 10 months ago
What amazes me is that the hatred she had for Christianity. You can hear it in her voice and her words. I pray that she found God before she died. That was a terrible thing that happened to her.
Prof2You 10 months ago
@Prof2You, (continued)...dubbys was just being a little immature. He is hypocritical for thinking that I'm the only one calling him names (which I admit that I did call him a sociopath), yet he's the main one insulting and berrating me with repetitive namecalling. I think it's unfair. My parents were not big church goers. Thanks for the encouragement. Bye.
Nashhinton 10 months ago
@Nashhinton As a minister and someone who has also experienced severe abuse as a young child, you have my sympathies and my prayers also my congratulations for accepting Christ. By him, all of our wounds will be healed! God bless you!
Prof2You 10 months ago
Long John Nebel Show on NBC Radio?
Boy, talk about belligerent, antagonistic and obnoxious. Debate, my ear; that clip of her and Martin was little more than a cantankerous shoutfest. When challenged by someone like Martin who knows what he's talking about and backs it all up with documented fact, she resorts to ridicule, yelling and faulty argument. She attacked with reckless abandon, but when someone reared up & struck back, she'd switch hats and play the victim card.
wannawatchu66 10 months ago
How does having a God that will forgive you of any sin, including murder, any better than an Atheist who doesn't believe in a God? Either way their afterlife is not in jeopardy. Don't act like Atheists morals are any different than anyone else's morals in a similar culture. You know that your reaction to ending someones life is similar to the way that I described it in my previous comment.
FantomL0rd 11 months ago
The thing that keeps me from killing human beings, as an Atheist, is putting myself in a hypothetical situation where I have murdered someone and the first thing that comes to mind is the emotions I imagine that I would feel, such as guilt, fear and regret. Guilty of taking another humans one chance at existence, and the pain I have caused their loved ones. Fear of the consequences of the actions I had committed. Regretting that this selfish act put me and their loved ones in this horrible pain.
FantomL0rd 11 months ago
@FantomL0rd The Bible says you have all these feeling of "guilt" because God gave you a conscience to know right from wrong & God established rulers & authorities to execute judgment on wrong doers such as murderers, etc. Consequently, an atheist then will feel the same "guilt" pangs as any other religionist out there since God has made this a universal human condition. The problem for atheists is that objective, trancendent laws of logic, values, beauty exist, etc. which defy atomic evolution.
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
@CAnswersTV Is the bible the only place where you get your information? If God gave everyone the feeling of guilt, why are serial killers out there? Also I would feel guilty for raping a girl, and that isn't sin. So why do I feel guilt for doing things that aren't considered against God, but I don't feel guilty for doing things that are against God, like using his name in vain and not keeping the sabbath holy?
FantomL0rd 11 months ago
@FantomL0rd Logically, either all religions (including the religion of atheism - see our 3 hour video series here on Youtube entitled, "Examining the Religion of Atheism" - type "LARRY WESSELS ATHEISM" in the Youtube search box to find it) are wrong or one of them must be right since they all contradict each other. From our standpoint Biblical Christianity passes the test (see our website BIBLEQUERY ORG for more on this). God turns the wicked over to a REPROBATE MIND (Romans 1:22-32, Prov 16:4).
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
I think it was Socrates who demolished the fallacy that morality comes from god(?).
Morality MUST exist outside of god for obvious reasons. If god were to suggest that keeping slaves was moral - THIS DOES NOT MAKE IT SO.
Believers (unfortunately) never seem to question the morality of god. Personal responsibility is a key facet of morality - unquestioningly following the orders of an authority figure is not.
go1godfurther 11 months ago
@go1godfurther Morality is established by God because it reflects His character. 1. If God does not exist, transcendent, objective values of good & evil do not exist. 2. Evil does exist. 3. Therefore objective values exist, & some things are really, basically, fundamentally bad. 4. Therefore God exists. God is much more than a transcendent moral being (He is also eternal, self-existent & omnipotent, etc), yet as soon as the atheist draws a distinction between right & wrong he runs into problems.
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
@CAnswersTV Whats interesting is also that Atheist ignore the horrible person Madalyn was. Atheist talk about morality, and how immoral and inhumane believers are. Yet this woman disowned her own son because he started believing in god. What type of monster does that??? She was described by her son as being a horrible person. So my point is atheist are hypocrites in some of their beliefs on morality. Madalyn was one of the immoral people who ever existed. She did not care about anyone.
Carriecarrington 11 months ago
@Carriecarrington Pretty ignorant statement. You are basing that all Atheists are hypocrites because one woman who happened to be an atheist was a "horrible person"? That is like me saying that all Christians are serial killing homosexual cannibals just because Jeffery Dahmer was a christian. Not to mention you called her a monster for disowning her son for believing in God, which I also agree is bad, but Christians and people of other religions disown there children for Atheism all the time.
FantomL0rd 11 months ago
@FantomL0rd Does this emotional rant refute the point I made ?? No it does not.
Carriecarrington 11 months ago
@Carriecarrington Yeah it does, I was showing you how your statement is basing that all Atheists are hypocrites because one Atheist is a hypocrite, which makes no sense.
FantomL0rd 11 months ago
@FantomL0rd The most ignorant statement that can be made is saying, "God does not exist." Even God calls anyone that would say this a "fool" (Psalm 14:1). Jeffery Dahmer claimed to be a Christian before he died but not while he did his terrible deeds (many people take God more seriously when death is near & whether Dahmer was a real Christian at the end remains to be seen). Therefore atheism in itself is an IGNORANT STATEMENT because it declares something it CANNOT prove with any finality.
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
It is an atheist's subjective opinion. NO Christian agrees with the interpretation of the Bible. You all cherry pick what you agree with and ignore what you don't like. Your belief is also a subjective opinion.
PatrioticEagle50 11 months ago
@PatrioticEagle50 Exactly. The Jehovah's Witnesses think the Catholics are lost, who think the Mormons are lost, who think the Baptists are lost, who think everyone else is lost... It's all subjective.
jajohnson7809 11 months ago
@jajohnson7809 Since you have taken it upon yourself to agree with the ignorant declarations of "PatrioticEagle50" then you have made yourself to look just as ignorant as him. You too did not know of the many creeds of Christianity standing throughout church history (see our website HISTORYCART COM on early Christian church history) thus leading to your logically false conclusion about JWs, Catholics, Mormons, etc (FALSE ANALOGY). Why make this asinine statement since you're religion ignorant?
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
@PatrioticEagle50 Spoken like a true scholar of theology! Your comment is filled with falsehood & logical fallacies. An atheist is opinionated acording to the particular lusts that he prefers. "No Christian agrees with the interpretation of the Bible", wow what a declaration! Have you ever heard of creeds or statements of faith. Have you ever hear of the 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith for instance? Your ignorance is truly amazing, that's why you can say that God does not exist (Ps 14:1).
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
Actually this was the most pathetic commentary on Madalyn's life and death. Morality is not exclusive to religion. The folks that killed Madalyn and her family did so because she found out that her former copywriter had murdered someone when he was a teen and also had threatened his mother later on in life. She basically outed him as a bad person and this is why he, and two of his friends killed, then chopped up Madalyn, her son, and her niece and hid them away.
rawmark 11 months ago
@rawmark Biblically speaking, "morality" is ingrained into every human being, whether they claim a formal religion, quasi-religion or religious atheism (see our your 3 hour series EXAMINING THE RELIGION OF ATHEISM here on Youtube, atheists have a lot of "religious" FAITH that God is not there, thus atheists have "religion" too) of one sort or another. The reason for this is that God put it into every person. Romans 1:19, "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them." Psalm 14:1.
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
@CAnswersTV So if I, as an atheist, am a member of the atheist religion as you say are you, as a non-believer of leprechauns a member of the non-leprechaun religion? and the anti-Zeus religion? and the anti-Flying Pink Unicorn religion? and the non-Humpty Dumpty religion? and the anti-Spiderman religion?
Spiderman even has a book. Many books actually. And Spiderman lives in New York, which exists! ALL religions have tenets, what are the tenets of the atheist religion? No one ever told me.
croyd 11 months ago
@croyd One very obvious "TENET" of the atheist religion (see our 3 hour series here on Youtube, "Examining the Religion of Atheism" for a more detailed explanation) is its universal use of ILLOGIC. For instance, you immediately present your case with the use of the illogical fallacies of FALSE ANALOGY & STRAWMAN ("leprechauns" etc). By this reasoning you argue then that God CANNOT exist since "I'm without belief", get it? IRRATIONALITY & ASSUMPTION are prime characteristics of religious atheism.
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
@CAnswersTV Actually I was not using the analogy to show that god cannot exist. I was using it to show the religion of atheism would be the same as the religion of leprechauns. I never said god does not exist. I said I am an atheist. That is I have no belief in a god. Just as I have no belief in leprechauns. My lack of belief does not mean that leprechauns don't exist just that I haven't been presented with convincing evidence that they do.
croyd 11 months ago
@croyd Well then, you're not an atheist since a religious atheist has FAITH that God does not exist, get it?Once again see our 3 hour series on Youtube entitled, "Examining the Religion of Atheism" which gives dictionary definitions of atheism & how atheists don't BELIEVE in the EXISTENCE of a god & live that way. Based on what you're saying you're really just an AGNOSTIC (based on the Greek words "a" "gnosis" meaning "without knowledge", in simpler terms you're "IGNORANT" as a clear definition.
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
@CAnswersTV I would agree that I am not a "religious atheist" with faith. I am an atheist based on the definition of: "a disbelief in the existence of deity". A-theism Without-Belief in a god. I am also an agnostic as I don't claim to know whether or not a god exists. There are multiple degrees of atheism and several definitions. You do not decide which definition I use to define myself. My lack of belief requires no faith. I have not yet been convinced of the existence of a deity.
croyd 11 months ago
@croyd You CANNOT be an atheist, "degree" or no "degree" (although you may THINK you're one & live as if there is no God) because an atheist (the word means NO GOD) BELIEVES & HAS FAITH that God does not exist, get it? You DON'T fit this definition. You CLAIM that you "DON'T KNOW" if a deity EXISTS or not MEANING you're an AGNOSTIC (ignorant about the EXISTENCE of DEITY, get it?). Atheists DO NOT BELIEVE a deity is there AT ALL but you leave a POSSIBILITY for it. MADALYN would be ASHAMED of you.
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
@CAnswersTV If atheism is a 'faith' then NOT being a policeman is an occupation. Do you GET THAT?
Calling any non-theist position a 'faith' is a childish attempt to tar everyone with the same brush. It says "okay, I may be irrational but you are equally irrational". It's transparent, says more about yourself than anything else, and quite frankly is an argument which belongs in the childrens playground.
go1godfurther 11 months ago
@go1godfurther Will you stop with this childish ILLOGIC?! The only ones crying like a baby are the atheists when someone calls them out for having a RELIGIOUS FAITH that God does not exist, get it? Atheists have a FAITH that God does not exist, especially the Biblical one, & will spend their lives trying to convince themselves that they are right about this even though they can't PROVE IT, get it? Deep down the atheist knows he's here on earth but he just doesn't want to BELIEVE that God did it.
CAnswersTV 11 months ago
@croyd - I like to correct you on the term "religion of Atheism". Atheism is NOT a religion. Religion is defined on a belief of a group of people who believe in a God or gods. Since Atheism is a non-belief the term cannot qualify as a religion based on the definition you have used.
VirgilB01 11 months ago
She was such a fraud. Walter Martin destroyed her.
msb0000 1 year ago
This is a sick video, Larry looks almost jovial as he describes the tragic murder of three people. At one point Steve questions how atheists can explain their sense of morality. Well here's your answer Steve: most atheists are humanists, right and wrong is based on actions that avert or cause suffering. Assuming that morality is consanguineous with christianity (or any religion for that matter) is as stupid an assumption as there ever was.
20vtmk1 1 year ago
@20vtmk1 This video is very HEALTHY & your analysis from the illogical atheist position is SICK rationally. Don't you know that it's ERRONEOUS to assume that merely giving an alternate explanation for something automatically refutes any other interpretation? Was Stalin a humanist or an atheist? Was Hitler a humanist, atheist, occultist, or religionist? Your ILLOGICAL humanist ASSUMPTION about wrong & right doesn't fly concerning fixed laws of morality. God created morality & logic, not Mao.
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
@CAnswersTV To answer your first question, I do know that. That is why I never refuted an explanation, instead I offered an explanation to a question. Second, I used the word "most", as in MOST atheists are humanists. Assuming things exist in one of two conditions without possibility of gradient is foolish. Hitler and Stalin were many things, as are we. People do what feels good to them, this is not an assumption. Think hard, morality is a function of culture. Refute my words.
20vtmk1 1 year ago
@20vtmk1 First, you admit I'm right, that's good. Second, just claiming the word "most" does NOT prove your proposition in any way. You need to prove to us that "most" atheists ARE humanists (using a dictionary definition of HUMANIST in specific terms, contrasted to the dictionary term, "atheist" such as in the FREE MERRIAM-WEBSTER DICTIONARY which defines "atheism" as "ungodliness, wickedness." People DO NOT always do "what feels good to them," this is a RIDICULOUS ASSUMPTION. Do you pay taxes?
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
@CAnswersTV No-one has ever killed in the name of Atheism, they have killed in the name of greed, political ideology or God. It really is that simple.
MarilynFilth 1 year ago
@MarilynFilth Have you ever heard of "Practical Atheism"? The underlying motivation for "greed, political ideology or God" when it comes to people getting "killed in the name of" is really practical atheism when it doesn't conform to the Biblical standard (with the assumption here being the only true & living God is the Biblical God). When the established laws of the Biblical God are ignored (10 commandments, etc) then people MAKE THEIR OWN RULES - atheism) thus murder, theft, etc are justified.
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
@CAnswersTV Oh so a person gets their inspiration to murder from the bible, kills someone, all of a sudden they're an atheist because they broke one of the many contradictory commands in the bible.
Oh, and by the way, the ten commandments are not the only commandments in the bible, there's over 100 and they're oddly specific. What's more, the ten commandments have the underlying subject "jew" i.e. Thou shalt not kill...a jew. Thou shalt not steal...from a jew.
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago
@ihaterobbie123 You're making several logical fallacies in your argument here (atheists typically do, a common trait) namely, FALSE ANALOGY & HASTY GENERALIZATION on your first sentence & BEGGING THE QUESTION & NON SEQUITUR on your second sentence. I can see critical reasoning is not your forte. Anyway, any nut can commit murder & blame it on the Bible, atheism is not required, get it? Next, there are 613 OT commands & your "jew" conclusion is false (now the Talmud is another matter completely).
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
@CAnswersTV "practical atheism" Well sorry if everything I said isn't implied in your definition of practical atheism...oh wait, it is. Anything (not of) religion is atheistic in nature and therefore killing for money is an example of practical atheism. That makes as much sense as saying everything (not of) colour is smell. If something cannot be seen it can be smelled.
How about this right? The actions of people speak for what they acted upon, how about we apply it fairly?
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago
@ihaterobbie123 By now saying "practical atheism" instead of "atheism" you feel all your logical fallacies are okay?! I see that you could not counter anything that was said to your last reply so now you try to employ another logical fallacy called EQUIVOCATION by shifting your definitions to suit your purposes. Here you EQUIVOCATE by saying "anything (not of) religion is atheistic" & then use a NON SESEQUITUR "killing for money is ... practical atheism." 2 FALLACIES don't make a good argument!
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
@CAnswersTV Shifting MY definitions? I'm attempting to understand YOUR definitions. Don't for one second think you can get away with leaving your position unclear and set traps for people to fall into. All of these examples of logical fallacies you say I'm committing is just my futile attempt to understand a position you intentionally made unclear.
Either clarify your definition of "practical atheism" or go away.
PS."& then use a NON SESEQUITUR" actually it wasn't, it followed logically.
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago
@ihaterobbie123 You admit, at least, that you DID NOT understand the definitions being employed by the use of "atheism" on one hand & the term "practical atheism" on the other & by doing so have granted my proposition that you DID indeed EQUIVOCATE (you mixed definitions). Understand that a "practical atheist" (not conforming to Biblical standards but could be religious) is NOT an "actual atheist," get it? Your NON SEQUITUR (due to EQUIVOCATION) came in your conclusion -kill, color, smell.
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
because christians never commit murder right?
ricktor002 1 year ago
@ricktor002 It all depends on what you mean by "christians" doesn't it? The Pope & his "church" are considered to be "christians" by many despite the fact that hundreds of thousands have been murdered by the Pope through the Crusades, the Inquisition, & countless other political acts by the Vatican. Many of the TV evangelists & their money grubbing ways are considered to be "christians" despite their immoral lifestyles. The fact is, the Bible itself says there aren't many REAL christians (Mt 7).
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
@candiceevans1
I haven't said anything whatsoever about debates. But the fact is, conversion of others to religion tends to be a central philosophy of most religions. It may be that I've simply come into contact with it more, but it seems Christianity is a main offender in this way. The word "Repent" is a favorite piece of vocabulary for Christians, and is a one word proclamation that "You're wrong, we're right, now come be on our side."
Dakren1984 1 year ago
@Dakren1984 You fail to see the FALLACY in your own argumentation. You're debating with us & "candiceevans1" here to argue that "Christianity is a main offender in this way" since you say Christianity says "You're wrong, we're right". Can't you see that you are accusing Christianity of what you yourself are doing right now, namely saying Christians are "wrong" & you're "right"?! Christianity claims to be the TRUTH of our present reality (John 14:6). If Christianity is TRUE then others are FALSE.
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
Religion is a mental illness! Science is the therapy these people need. very sad
jonathanjoey 1 year ago
@jonathanjoey Atheism is a religion, didn't you know that? If not, see our 3 hour series here on YOUTUBE entitled, "Examining the Religion of Atheism." Your so-called "science" in your mind is either PSYCHOLOGY (also known as "PSYCHOBABBLE") defined by Siegmond Freud (a guy who had sex with his sister & ended up thinking he was Jesus Christ) or Carl Jung (a guy who said he grew up in a haunted house) or Monkey Religion created by Charles Darwin (the only college degree he had was in religion).
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
@CAnswersTV It's hard to understand since Christianity and most major 'organisations' are so repellent and opressive to me, preaching hate&fueling worldwide intolerance. 'Atheism' is a 'belief' (not religion!) in what can be proven. There's no spiritual book written 2000yrs ago by vastly different societies to this one, which preach dated rules on living. Atheists learn FACTS and live by them. The world is just a rock in a vast nothingness and you people and your egos have to deal with that!
jonathanjoey 1 year ago
@jonathanjoey First of all you must remember that the God of the Bible creates people for a destiny in hell (Romans 9:18-22, Proverbs 16:4) & turns unbelievers over to a reprobate mind to do wrong (Romans 1:18-32) which at this moment is exactly what God has decided to do with you. Next, your bogus arguments about "Atheism is a belief (not religion!)", "Atheists learn FACTS," & your religious beliefs about the "world" are all based on logical fallacies: FALSE ANALOGY, BEGGING THE QUESTION, etc.
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
@CAnswersTV If you are quoting bible references to an atheist you clearly have zero intelligence. Quoting god's wishes to me is like telling me that the giant from Jack and the Beanstalk is going to steal my hen. Your argument consists of 'God says so'. Get a mind of your own and bore somebody else with your fairy tales. If heaven is full of arrogant Christians, I 'Thank God!!', irony intended, that I will spend eternity in hell.
Peace xx
jonathanjoey 1 year ago
@jonathanjoey Are you saying you are an "atheist" by this comment? The Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines atheism as "1. ungodliness, wickedness, 2. a) a disbelief in the existence of deity 2. b)the doctrine that there is no deity. Origin of Atheism: from Greek atheos, godless, from a- + theos god. All you have said is that you're the one with "zero intellengence" since you're saying that no god can EXIST in this UNIVERSE (even Anthony Flew or Einstein would diagree with you). Get a brain!
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
@CAnswersTV You are wonderful at confirming the ignorance of indoctrinated people. Get a brain? Why don't you get an original thought? You're a christian because of your background. You'd be a muslim or a hindu were your circumstances different. It's indoctrination, plain and simple, and throwing semantics at me in the form of dictionary quotations? Give me a break. If there were a god you'd be his worst representative. Luckily for you there isn't. So you're just wasting your life and my time.
jonathanjoey 1 year ago
@jonathanjoey Since you've let the cat out of the bag that you're an atheist it's wonderful to see how your atheist's mind works so ILLOGICALLY (by the way, see our 3 hour series here on Youtube entitled, EXAMINING THE RELIGION OF ATHEISM, with one episode entitled, THE ILLOGIC OF ATHEISM, or type LARRY WESSELS in the Youtube search box). Every sentence in your comment is based on logical fallacies: BEGGING THE QUESTION (you ASSUME I started as a Christian), AD HOMINEN, FALLACY OF OPPOSITION,etc
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
@CAnswersTV You can have the last word. You need it!
jonathanjoey 1 year ago
You fairy tale believers NEED to try to characterize atheism as a religion since it makes your religion look so silly. Atheism is a lack of belief. Your silly arguments aren't convincing. You have no evidence that your Jesus ever existed.
Man had a moral code long before your sadomasochistic cult was ever invented 2000 yrs ago. Your cult simply stole that code and now pretends it invented it. Your cult is a cheap plagiarization of other cults which came before it. Nothing more.
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
@MrTruthAddict Your YOUTUBE account name should be 'mrFOOLISHNESSaddict" for all the BULL you're stating here (proving God was right about you in Psalm 14:1). Atheism is a RELIGIOUS BELIEF about the existence of God, get it? See our 3 hour series on YOUTUBE entitled, "EXAMINING THE RELIGION OF ATHEISM" (or search LARRY WESSELS & find it). Your BOGUS comment about "moral code" shows your complete IGNORANCE. Have you ever heard of Moses & the 10 Commandments? Your "stole that code" is nonsense.
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
The bible is awash with mass-murder and infanticide, if you base your life on it, what exactly do you mean murder is wrong?
DanielBerlinTV 1 year ago
@DanielBerlinTV Ah, the Old Testament God of the Bible ALWAYS enrages the atheist because the Biblical God does not FIT into their preconceived notions of what God should be like if there were a God. The atheist, who aspires to be his own god, always finds fault with the Biblical God (particularly the works of God as found in the Old Testament: Noah's Flood, Joshua's destruction of pagan cities, etc.). The Biblical God can destroy the world if He wants & it isn't murder. Exodus 20:13 is murder.
CAnswersTV 1 year ago
wow. you actually tried to prove your point by making a MOCK DEBATE? ITS A MOCK DEBATE, she's not even there to defend herself, you retards. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
TheLiberalSoup 1 year ago
@TheLiberalSoup The only "retard" is you bud & you should be ashamed of yourself. IF you had bothered to watch the entire 2 hour debate here on YOUTUBE (search "Debate with Angry & Hostile Atheists") you'd of known that this whole presentation was put on because an atheist challenged for the debate then bugged out at the last moment. Having prepared for a live debate with a live atheist we weren't going to have the TV set time go to waste for nothing.Besides O'Hair IS defending herself, get it?
CAnswersTV 1 year ago