Yeah I dont get the motive if the conspiracy theorists. The time before America bombed Iraq it was because Clinton got busted getting a blowjob from his intern. No need for such an elaborate operation just to go to war.
@garryartprojects they did it because if we just went to war and there wasnt even a made up reason to do it like destroying the twin towers, WAY more people would see how wrong it is. people are capable of some extent of critical thinking.
No, I am telling you that I do not agree with you, but I have already been drawn into this too many times. Find someone else who is more receptive to your crazy shit. I am not going to pretend to care. There are far worse atrocities carried out by states that affect a much larger group of people. Until people accept those, this is not a fight worth waging. This is the last time I tell you this, give it a rest.
Watch this video again, and maybe you'll see the part where I say that it ultimately doesn't matter if the US was behind 9/11, because there are much better cases way out in the open to use against the state that are not so controversial. I don't know how else to explain this to you. Give it a rest.
By the way, come up with a reason why a huge building collapsing would NOT fall at the speed in which it fell. There were no explosives, they were not necessary since a FUCKING JUMBO JET CRASHED INTO IT.
How do you get that I "don't question" it? I went over in this video my thoughts on the matter. I obviously have questioned it, I just didn't come to the same conclusion as you.
I even said in this video that it ultimately doesn't matter because there are much better examples of state atrocities right out in the open. Why do you people insist on trying to get into this with me when I say it's irrelevant in the end anyway?
It's great that 9/11 "truthers" constantly say "no investigation has been done into the events of 9/11." Yes, there have been investigations, quite a few. There's a pretty unanimous consensus as to what transpired that day. But conspiracy theorists will always ignore the logical sayings of the majority in order to support 1 or 2 men with degrees saying that 9/11 was an "inside job." Basically, if you say 9/11 was an inside job, you just have no understanding of the world.
Check out the experiments actually carried out on ae911truth YT Channel...especially the one done by Jonathan Cole-9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate watch?v=Qamecech9m4
Please elaborate on how the actual experiments performed using reality as the laboratory is nonobjective and conspiratorial.
All I see coming from you and anyone who denies the truth is pejorative rhetoric. You attack the messengers and have zero substance to your attack on the message. Please do elaborate your arguments against the experiments Jonathan Cole conducted.
Better yet... conduct your own experiments to prove the NIST hypothesis.
So it's 2010, 9/11 happened in 2001, so what rights have been taken away? All the conspiracy theorists say it was a "smokescreen," but to what? Iraqi's oil is still Iraq's oil, until it hits a market. There's still only 2 wars. Bush left office peacefully. But do conspiracy theorists make formal retractions when they're proved wrong? No. They just move their dates and conspiracies onto the next scenario. First it was Bush was waiting to declare "Marshall" law. Where's that conspiracy hiding now?
9/11 is only a tiny part of the global jihad going on. Just ask the Londoners who saw the subway bombings, same with the Spanish people who saw the same thing. Same with the Chechnyan teens who get recruited or shot by Muslims. Look at Yeomen, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, others...
They demolished the towers as an impetus to go to war with iraq, something that would have been unpopular given that we had already been to war with iraq. The government requires the consent of the governed to do things regardless of how powerful they are. I stick to it because I think its true.
@batfly "Camel Jockies with box cutters? I doubt it." More like Saudis and others who were both smarter and more capable than you. It's a shame what they did.
I find it less likely that 9/11 was a False Flag attack by our own government, and more likely it was essentially a large failure homeland defense and security. The other possibility is that this attack on a civilian target was allowed to proceed with the government knowing full and well it was likely to happen. Perhaps if they had known about the attack on the Pentagon they would have done something to stop it.
military grade expolsives found in dust ... is that evidence fatty? perfect example right here why a fat persons perceptions of reality are just not credible. Keep believing the official story, and keep believing that those donuts and cupcakes are real food. Youll be super fat and happy in ur fantasy world.
It's funny when I see the truthers' comments, I remember making these exact same comments two years ago when I was a truther. Hopefully they grow out of it.
@NefariousEquivocator You fucking idiot, the terrorists used their own passports, credit cards and so on when renting cars, buying plane tickets, checking in, and they were filmed by surveillance cameras all thje way into the airplanes, virtually. Nutcase!
does not matter that your goverment made your people to belive that muslims and islam had attacked your country and killed 2000 people? Now over a milion (1,milion people) in the muslim world is dead. are they to blame for your 9 11?
For someone who is obviously intelligent and opinionated, you appear to be deliberately ignoring the mass of evidence. C'mon do some research!! Building 7 for Christ's Sake!!
I find it funny how they call you a sheep, yet they follow like flock to the conspiracies. What they fail to realize, is the fact of the pocket books of those that lead those theories (and how F^d up their minds are from ego overdrive).
@chrisbuxton1958 way to generalize an entire diverse movement that consists of millions worldwide including thousands of engineers without bothering to fucking address the core proofs such as gravitational potential energy, free fall for 2.5 seconds (building 7), nanothermite, eyewitness testimony, conservation of momentum, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, watch the Richard Gage lecture and see David Chandler's videos.
9/11 was obviously an inside job. Amd I am someone who bought the government story for 7 years - simply ecause I didn't bother knowing anything about it, or know about WTC 7 etc etc
I understand the jump people have to make to get that evil criminals took over the US government... but look at Iraq... they sent nearly 6,000 Americans to their deaths based on LIES
Those towers, including WTC 7, could never have collapsed like they did based on fires, its impossible
No, but I have spoken to people who are. Are you a qualified engineer? How do you know the nonsense sprouted by the 9/11 report is right? You know the commissioners themselves have spoken negatively of their own report, that is was "set up to fail" etc etc
I'm an engineer, and I know by having an education in a University. That your highest level of education is highschool. You talk like a typical white trash person.
INSIDE JOB. missopinionated got beat by Crocodiles on her SAT test. don't trust the ones schooled by crocodiles. we have seen Crocodile Dundee. people that live in swamps INSIDE JOB
I'm making fun of missopinonated since she is a "conspiracy theorist" She claims to know everything and highly educated but she couldn't spell anything in another video she posted.
Hey FearsEdge buddy, it's me, Akatam0t0ma. My original account is suspended for two weeks :-(
Anyway, good video, as usual. I think it is most unfortunate that many libertarians believe this kookspiracy garbage. That can be a real turn-off for rational bystanders and fence sitters, who may dismiss arguments which they might have otherwise agreed with because of those conspiracy nuts.
Well, on the bright side, it only shows that they know they have no other weapon against those who would criticize them than to censor them. No one's position ever looks tenable at that point.
BTW, there one thing you said in this vid that I must object. You seem to overstate the responsibility for 9/11 on American foreign policy. And while there is much to criticize about, it doesn't take much for Islamic fundamentalists to want to commit something like 9/11.
After all, the Time Square car bomb, which was parked in front of Viacom building, was probably a "response" to that very South Park controversy, for which my own account got suspended.
I don't know that all of the hijackers were most worried about our imperialism, I do know that it's an easy thing to point to when recruiting potential terrorists as to why we need to be stopped. I know it doesn't help in terms of how prepared our actual country is from attack, and in how we make ourselves appear to the rest of the word. I know that Osama Bin Laden said that they did it becuase of our bases in the middle east and because of our support of Israel.
Ah, glad you covered this. Yea, I think the fed's big mistake in 9/11 was arrogance. The whole "that could never happen to us" attitude. That's what allowed it to happen. But as far as conspiracy, nah. If Clinton couldn't keep it a secret that someone was blowing him under a desk, there's no way everyone who would have had to have been involved in 9/11 could have kept it under wraps.
I may not agree 100% with you on your anti-statism (Although I do consider myself to be mostly libertarian... There are just some things that I personally don't think can't be profitable and ethical), but I agree with you on this 9/11 bullshit... And reading the comments on this video just makes me want to go /wrist, christ the stupidity these people spout. How do you deal with it?
whether or not 9/11 was an "inside job" I do not buy into the official govt account, considering it has changed several times. hell, FEMA even said, "our best hypothesis has a low probability of being correct."
i think the strongest evidence comes from the unreacted nano-explosives found in the dust. there is also the 2.5 seconds of free fall on building 7 and the fact that the gravitational potential energy of the top sections would not be close to enough to rip through steel girders, etc.
ive watched dprjones' series. he doesn't address the question of why the chips react exothermically in a manner hot enough to melt iron. unless the melting depression curve for iron is abnormal, then i have to wonder why a substance with nanoparticles of specific shape and composition, suspended in a polymer, and capable of melting iron when ignited is present in the dust?
there could be something im missing there, but dprjones didn't go at all in depth into the paper.
If they did know what was going to happen, they wouldn't have bothered telling anyone anyway. It's only a couple office blocks, after all. Oh ... and there's plenty more money to be made if things are destroyed so they need to be rebuilt. Like Iraq, for example. They wrote about it, even, waaaaaaaaaay back. Cunts like Cheney, WolfiWitless, Cunt 1, Cunt 2, Cunt 3 (the names don't srping to mind, but I have the details, of course). Project for the New Yank Certuny / Mein Kampf I think it was.
Watch Richard Gage's 2 hr lecture. he conclusively proves controlled demolition, thus proving the official story is an utter fraud. his core proofs have not been and will never be debunked.
I'm not getting into this. That is not the point of the video. Even if you are right, it's not a way to convince people of anything, since most people don't believe that nonsense.
@FearsEdge It is in no way nonsense. It is conclusively, scientifically proven by Richard Gage's lecture. Before you condemn it as nonsense, perhaps you should... I don't know... watch the lecture? That would be the rational approach - starting from a point of complete neutrality and looking at the best pieces of evidence that both sides have to offer. the Gage lecture, as mentioned, is FULLY CONCLUSIVE in terms of proving controlled demolition.
Watch the video in the description if you want my opinions on this matter. I already told you that I am not getting into this here, it is not relevant to this video. I already said that even if you are right, focus on something that is not so difficult to convince people of.
@FearsEdge regardless of difficulty it is very important to convince people of this. it will undermine people's faith in government morality, and will give fire to the antiwar movement. it has the potential to become a movement that affects change (granted many people in the 911 truth movement are either naive or nationalistic or both)
@FearsEdge of course there are far worse things, e.g. murdering one million plus iraqis. but when people perceive an immediate threat (acknowledging that the US gov could kill and did kill American citizens en masse) they are more inclined to act. I'm not 100% an antistatist, but i lean that way, and i cant think of a better way to delegitimize the state then to expose 911 as an inside job. it has a direct bearing on people's lives and makes them recog what the gov can do to its own citizens
Except reasonable people do not believe it because it is not based on fact, or reality. Deal with it. I almost started typing refutations to the controlled demolition thing, you almost got me to start getting into this bullshit yet again. I'm not doing it. That is not the point of this video, and I really have no interest in having that argument for the 5,000th time. None. Find someone else to bother with that crap, that is not what this video is about, nor what I care to do.
@FearsEdge So I assume you have conclusively disproven the fact that building 7 free fell for 2.5 seconds, only possible with controlled demolition? I assume you have also disproven the aspect involving gravitational potential energy, the aspect involving conservation of momentum, the eyewitness testimony, Steven Jones' and others' work on the nanothermite found, etc? If not, I suggest you stop saying it is not based on fact. these are all irrefutable facts.
Bldg 7 DId not fall at "free fall speed" The total observed time of collapse of Bldg 7 is just over 22 seconds. This includes the collapse east penthouse first, moving to the west and then the upper floors buckeling and collapsing down, pancaking each floor below it.
@GregQzag 22 seconds is the highest estimate ive heard, but regardless, that is wholly irrelevant to what i said. See David Chandler's work. IT FELL AT FREE FALL FOR TWO AND A HALF SECONDS. Buildings cannot fall for free fall for any length of time without controlled demolition.
@GregQzag DID I FUCKING SAY IT FELL AT FREE FALL? NO. It fell at free fall for TWO POINT FIVE SECONDS OF THE FALL. A BUILDING CANNOT FALL AT FREE FALL FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME WITHOUT EXPLOSIVES. SEE DAVID CHANDLER'S ANALYSIS AND RICHARD GAGE'S LECTURE.
it did not "fall at free fall" for any part of it. Watch the video. You can CLEARLY see it Pancake from the top down. The top Two Pentouses Collapsed first ( West one then the east one ) and then the top floors collapsed and each floor DOWN went next when it structualy failed. Btw,
ALL CAPS DON"T MAKE YOUR STUPID POINT ANY MORE PLAUSABLE
@techjunkie92 it is not up to him to disprove anything. You are the ones making accusations against the official story. Building 7 has been addressed, I have yet to hear a valid hypothesis as how this was a controlled demolition. You claim there were explosives planted in these buildings. Answer the question how were they able to get explosives in the buildings and place them without ANYONE NOTICING, until you can give a plausible explanation for this then the rest of your claims are moot.
lol, if you think all those things haven't been debunked 10 million times already, you obviously haven't even bothered with a google search. Never mind any reputable research & full analysis of the claims you just made.
@OlympicRudi I have bothered with plenty of google searches. 2.5 seconds of free fall has not been debunked, nor has the gravitational potential energy aspect, or the conservation of momentum aspect, or the nanothermite found. Perhaps you would like to enlighten me as to where I can find a refutation of those key proofs? Or perhaps you would like to state the refutations yourself. of course there have been debunking attempts, but none have refuted those core proofs.
lol, so the buckling of floors 7-14 have nothing to do with that actual 2.25 seconds then?
As for Nanothermite, just go watch Dprjones's recent debunking vids on those.
Your arguments, are either from made-up/misrepresented data or arguments from ignorance.
I expect you to just ignore whatever evidence you find & keep spouting the same old debunked theories though. You obviously don't want to actually the work, so I'll leave you to your delusions.
@OlympicRudi I have spent numerous hours researching 911, so dont fucking tell me "i dont want to do the work." I was initially very hostile to the 911 truth movement, but through research i have come to accept the awful reality. I have neither made up nor misrepresented any data. a building cannot fall at free fall for any length of time without explosives. Do your own research into gravitational potential energy, conservation of momentum, the bolt shearing, the eyewitness testimony...
@purplefuzzythings See the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth website and David Chandler's work. The twin towers fall within the margin of error for free fall, and building 7 falls at free fall for a 2.5 second period (not the whole time).
lol, but you do & have misrepresented things, even in this thread. You say there are no explanations & there actually are. You say you've done the work, yet show no signs of it. I doubt even if you had the proof you were wrong right in front of you, you'd not believe it. Oh & please stop saying 2.5 seconds, when it's actually more like 2.25 seconds. Just another thing you haven't researched.
Also I have actually studied Physics(& particularly Mechanics) to University standards, despite it not being my degree. So I am well versed in both gravitational potential energy & conservation of momentum, aswell as a ton more stuff way beyond that basic introductory stuff.
You can keep spouting rubbish you know isn't true if you want. I'm not bothering with you anymore. I'll just say to anyone reading your stuff, do some proper research & don't take his lazy word for anything.
@FearsEdge I dont see why this is not relevant to this video. the video was about 911. I shared my comments with regard to 911. if you want to discuss it elesewhere we can... my initial intention was to get you to watch the Gage lecture
Because the point of the video is saying where I stand on this matter, which is that even if 9/11 was an inside job, it's not something people are going to believe, and it's FAR down on the list of crimes that this state has committed. You completely miss the point of it, and try and get into this crap with me. I have been there and done that, and I am not interested in having that argument again, especially on this comment page.
I've already made two videos dismantling truther arguments. Did it persuade them? No. Of course not. All I've done is confirmed that I am secretly working for the government.
It disappoints me to to see minarchist/anarchist also believe in the 9/11 conspiracy. I guess if you really want the government to be this evil organization, then it is only natural to see only the things that would make it look evil.
you fat nigger
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Yeah I dont get the motive if the conspiracy theorists. The time before America bombed Iraq it was because Clinton got busted getting a blowjob from his intern. No need for such an elaborate operation just to go to war.
garryartprojects 8 months ago
@garryartprojects they did it because if we just went to war and there wasnt even a made up reason to do it like destroying the twin towers, WAY more people would see how wrong it is. people are capable of some extent of critical thinking.
SlamdogX 7 months ago
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Globalists no matter where they are born are not Americans.
sanitysvoid 9 months ago
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2.3 trillion dollars went missing from the Pentagon on 9/10/01
bennygypsy23 9 months ago
@twindwick
I told you to watch my videos where I address building 7. I did on one of the 2 or 3 videos I have on the subject.
Yes, there are bigger fish to fry. Like the state itself. Like taxes. Like wars predicated on lies OR truths. Like wholesale enslavement.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@twindwick
No, I am telling you that I do not agree with you, but I have already been drawn into this too many times. Find someone else who is more receptive to your crazy shit. I am not going to pretend to care. There are far worse atrocities carried out by states that affect a much larger group of people. Until people accept those, this is not a fight worth waging. This is the last time I tell you this, give it a rest.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@twindwick
Watch this video again, and maybe you'll see the part where I say that it ultimately doesn't matter if the US was behind 9/11, because there are much better cases way out in the open to use against the state that are not so controversial. I don't know how else to explain this to you. Give it a rest.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@twindwick
By the way, come up with a reason why a huge building collapsing would NOT fall at the speed in which it fell. There were no explosives, they were not necessary since a FUCKING JUMBO JET CRASHED INTO IT.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@twindwick
Watch my video "conspiracy theorists are stupid" for the answers to those questions.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@twindwick
How do you get that I "don't question" it? I went over in this video my thoughts on the matter. I obviously have questioned it, I just didn't come to the same conclusion as you.
I even said in this video that it ultimately doesn't matter because there are much better examples of state atrocities right out in the open. Why do you people insist on trying to get into this with me when I say it's irrelevant in the end anyway?
FearsEdge 1 year ago
Jesus Christ, the 9/11 truthers won't shut the fuck up.
Tripo1iSamson 1 year ago
It's great that 9/11 "truthers" constantly say "no investigation has been done into the events of 9/11." Yes, there have been investigations, quite a few. There's a pretty unanimous consensus as to what transpired that day. But conspiracy theorists will always ignore the logical sayings of the majority in order to support 1 or 2 men with degrees saying that 9/11 was an "inside job." Basically, if you say 9/11 was an inside job, you just have no understanding of the world.
Tripo1iSamson 1 year ago
@Tripo1iSamson
Ignore the rhetoric and only allow empiricism...
Check out the experiments actually carried out on ae911truth YT Channel...especially the one done by Jonathan Cole-9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate watch?v=Qamecech9m4
batfly 1 year ago
@batfly You reference 2 preconceived, unobjective and conspiratorial videos as a source for what happened on 9/11. Lame.
Tripo1iSamson 1 year ago
@Tripo1iSamson
Please elaborate on how the actual experiments performed using reality as the laboratory is nonobjective and conspiratorial.
All I see coming from you and anyone who denies the truth is pejorative rhetoric. You attack the messengers and have zero substance to your attack on the message. Please do elaborate your arguments against the experiments Jonathan Cole conducted.
Better yet... conduct your own experiments to prove the NIST hypothesis.
batfly 1 year ago
So it's 2010, 9/11 happened in 2001, so what rights have been taken away? All the conspiracy theorists say it was a "smokescreen," but to what? Iraqi's oil is still Iraq's oil, until it hits a market. There's still only 2 wars. Bush left office peacefully. But do conspiracy theorists make formal retractions when they're proved wrong? No. They just move their dates and conspiracies onto the next scenario. First it was Bush was waiting to declare "Marshall" law. Where's that conspiracy hiding now?
Tripo1iSamson 1 year ago
9/11 is only a tiny part of the global jihad going on. Just ask the Londoners who saw the subway bombings, same with the Spanish people who saw the same thing. Same with the Chechnyan teens who get recruited or shot by Muslims. Look at Yeomen, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, others...
Tripo1iSamson 1 year ago
They demolished the towers as an impetus to go to war with iraq, something that would have been unpopular given that we had already been to war with iraq. The government requires the consent of the governed to do things regardless of how powerful they are. I stick to it because I think its true.
twistedbydsign99 1 year ago
Inside Job... Who knows who did it... Camel Jockies with box cutters? I doubt it.
Check out ae911truth
There is plenty of empirical evidence and actual experiments...
over a thousand architects and engineers are pushing for a private investigation.
Don't discount 911... it was used to implement and perpetuate the taking away of the last of our liberties.
batfly 1 year ago
@batfly "Camel Jockies with box cutters? I doubt it." More like Saudis and others who were both smarter and more capable than you. It's a shame what they did.
Tripo1iSamson 1 year ago
@Tripo1iSamson
It a LIE
batfly 1 year ago
@batfly Deep.
Tripo1iSamson 1 year ago
Brain surgery helps...
Massaricossudo 1 year ago
I find it less likely that 9/11 was a False Flag attack by our own government, and more likely it was essentially a large failure homeland defense and security. The other possibility is that this attack on a civilian target was allowed to proceed with the government knowing full and well it was likely to happen. Perhaps if they had known about the attack on the Pentagon they would have done something to stop it.
AnonSubHuman 1 year ago
ur showing signs of a pre-diabetic as well... just thought id let u know
frogger1017 1 year ago
military grade expolsives found in dust ... is that evidence fatty? perfect example right here why a fat persons perceptions of reality are just not credible. Keep believing the official story, and keep believing that those donuts and cupcakes are real food. Youll be super fat and happy in ur fantasy world.
frogger1017 1 year ago
It's funny when I see the truthers' comments, I remember making these exact same comments two years ago when I was a truther. Hopefully they grow out of it.
theradioschizo 1 year ago
You don't think there is evidence?
What makes you think it was osama and 19 highjackers?
The 9/11 commision report was setup to fail and under funded!
There was never a REAL investigation to 9/11.
INVESTIGATE 9/11 NOW!!!
NefariousEquivocator 1 year ago
@NefariousEquivocator You fucking idiot, the terrorists used their own passports, credit cards and so on when renting cars, buying plane tickets, checking in, and they were filmed by surveillance cameras all thje way into the airplanes, virtually. Nutcase!
winterstellar 1 year ago
@winterstellar orly ? is that why atleast 8 have been found alive?
911Brit1 1 year ago
does not matter that your goverment made your people to belive that muslims and islam had attacked your country and killed 2000 people? Now over a milion (1,milion people) in the muslim world is dead. are they to blame for your 9 11?
your answer is so sick.
inshalla123 1 year ago
@inshalla123
My answer is no. That's a sick answer?
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@inshalla123 A million dead muslims? Really? GREAT!!! You just made my day, AbdullahBullah! : )
winterstellar 1 year ago
For someone who is obviously intelligent and opinionated, you appear to be deliberately ignoring the mass of evidence. C'mon do some research!! Building 7 for Christ's Sake!!
Illuminatimanchester 1 year ago
I find it funny how they call you a sheep, yet they follow like flock to the conspiracies. What they fail to realize, is the fact of the pocket books of those that lead those theories (and how F^d up their minds are from ego overdrive).
GreatEighthSin 1 year ago
9/11 doesn't have to be an inside job for the government to be evil and unnecessary.
DissidentDescendant 1 year ago
i agree bro 100% we are all slaves no body even knows about the 9th amendment...
D0CKTORDEATH 1 year ago
good vid, the 9/11 truth brigade are just crackpots, rather like the creationists I would say.
chrisbuxton1958 1 year ago
@chrisbuxton1958 way to generalize an entire diverse movement that consists of millions worldwide including thousands of engineers without bothering to fucking address the core proofs such as gravitational potential energy, free fall for 2.5 seconds (building 7), nanothermite, eyewitness testimony, conservation of momentum, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, watch the Richard Gage lecture and see David Chandler's videos.
techjunkie92 1 year ago
Totally dig your videos sir.
michaelscriptor 1 year ago
If we were slaves we wouldn't be able to get out. We can.
Proletariat12 1 year ago
@Proletariat12
To another slave farm, sure.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
The sheer number of assumptions that need to be made in order to back up the theory is strong evidence that this non-argument is bunk.
And I agree with you that the Bush administration has done far worse things.
ScepticalAgnostic 1 year ago
9/11 was obviously an inside job. Amd I am someone who bought the government story for 7 years - simply ecause I didn't bother knowing anything about it, or know about WTC 7 etc etc
I understand the jump people have to make to get that evil criminals took over the US government... but look at Iraq... they sent nearly 6,000 Americans to their deaths based on LIES
Those towers, including WTC 7, could never have collapsed like they did based on fires, its impossible
missopinionated1976 1 year ago
@missopinionated1976 And are you the qualified engineer to make a scientific judgment as such? No. Shut up.
purplefuzzythings 1 year ago
@purplefuzzythings
No, but I have spoken to people who are. Are you a qualified engineer? How do you know the nonsense sprouted by the 9/11 report is right? You know the commissioners themselves have spoken negatively of their own report, that is was "set up to fail" etc etc
missopinionated1976 1 year ago
@missopinionated1976
I'm an engineer, and I know by having an education in a University. That your highest level of education is highschool. You talk like a typical white trash person.
taledarkside 1 year ago
@taledarkside
I have a master's degree in journalism, nut job.
missopinionated1976 1 year ago
@missopinionated1976
journalism, and yet you can't spell or write sentences correctly.
INSIDE JOB. your country failed with your education. I blame the crocodiles
taledarkside 1 year ago
@taledarkside
Whats with this crocodiles mumbo jumbo, you are clearly not all there
missopinionated1976 1 year ago
@missopinionated1976
INSIDE JOB. missopinionated got beat by Crocodiles on her SAT test. don't trust the ones schooled by crocodiles. we have seen Crocodile Dundee. people that live in swamps INSIDE JOB
taledarkside 1 year ago
@taledarkside
Start making sense, or stop posting.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@FearsEdge
I'm making fun of missopinonated since she is a "conspiracy theorist" She claims to know everything and highly educated but she couldn't spell anything in another video she posted.
taledarkside 1 year ago
@missopinionated1976 the whole structure was weakened by the heat overt time, its that simple.... no conspiracy, just terrorrists.....
steeldragon20002000 1 year ago
Hey FearsEdge buddy, it's me, Akatam0t0ma. My original account is suspended for two weeks :-(
Anyway, good video, as usual. I think it is most unfortunate that many libertarians believe this kookspiracy garbage. That can be a real turn-off for rational bystanders and fence sitters, who may dismiss arguments which they might have otherwise agreed with because of those conspiracy nuts.
AkataBackUp 1 year ago
@AkataBackUp
What did you get suspended for?
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@FearsEdge:
For mirroring a video of Mohammed, which apparently YouTube thought would be a good idea to remove to pander to a bunch of butthurt Muslims.
And if it wasn't bad enough, now I can't access my Gmail account with which I registered to my original account. GooTube administration sucks ass :-(
AkataBackUp 1 year ago
@AkataBackUp
Well, on the bright side, it only shows that they know they have no other weapon against those who would criticize them than to censor them. No one's position ever looks tenable at that point.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@FearsEdge:
BTW, there one thing you said in this vid that I must object. You seem to overstate the responsibility for 9/11 on American foreign policy. And while there is much to criticize about, it doesn't take much for Islamic fundamentalists to want to commit something like 9/11.
After all, the Time Square car bomb, which was parked in front of Viacom building, was probably a "response" to that very South Park controversy, for which my own account got suspended.
AkataBackUp 1 year ago
@AkataBackUp
I don't know that all of the hijackers were most worried about our imperialism, I do know that it's an easy thing to point to when recruiting potential terrorists as to why we need to be stopped. I know it doesn't help in terms of how prepared our actual country is from attack, and in how we make ourselves appear to the rest of the word. I know that Osama Bin Laden said that they did it becuase of our bases in the middle east and because of our support of Israel.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
Um, you shouldn't forget that the official account is also a conspiracy theory..
herne 1 year ago
When a plane hits a concrete building with nearly a full fuel load and then they find passports of the pilots on the ground - one has to doubt!
flyingfisbeefilms 1 year ago
Ah, glad you covered this. Yea, I think the fed's big mistake in 9/11 was arrogance. The whole "that could never happen to us" attitude. That's what allowed it to happen. But as far as conspiracy, nah. If Clinton couldn't keep it a secret that someone was blowing him under a desk, there's no way everyone who would have had to have been involved in 9/11 could have kept it under wraps.
dannypantsgm 1 year ago
Well said.
NermalsChannel 1 year ago
I may not agree 100% with you on your anti-statism (Although I do consider myself to be mostly libertarian... There are just some things that I personally don't think can't be profitable and ethical), but I agree with you on this 9/11 bullshit... And reading the comments on this video just makes me want to go /wrist, christ the stupidity these people spout. How do you deal with it?
jonatcer 1 year ago
whether or not 9/11 was an "inside job" I do not buy into the official govt account, considering it has changed several times. hell, FEMA even said, "our best hypothesis has a low probability of being correct."
i think the strongest evidence comes from the unreacted nano-explosives found in the dust. there is also the 2.5 seconds of free fall on building 7 and the fact that the gravitational potential energy of the top sections would not be close to enough to rip through steel girders, etc.
junior00bacon00chee 1 year ago
i agree on towards the end tho. i realize that 9/11 is kind of a dead end now as far as arguing it goes.....
i feel like at the end of the day anti-statism and economics are much more important anyway.
junior00bacon00chee 1 year ago
watch?v=yPyM8sDFCoQ
There's some neat debunking of the thermite conspiracy. Look out for both parts.
purplefuzzythings 1 year ago
@purplefuzzythings
ive watched dprjones' series. he doesn't address the question of why the chips react exothermically in a manner hot enough to melt iron. unless the melting depression curve for iron is abnormal, then i have to wonder why a substance with nanoparticles of specific shape and composition, suspended in a polymer, and capable of melting iron when ignited is present in the dust?
there could be something im missing there, but dprjones didn't go at all in depth into the paper.
junior00bacon00chee 1 year ago
If they did know what was going to happen, they wouldn't have bothered telling anyone anyway. It's only a couple office blocks, after all. Oh ... and there's plenty more money to be made if things are destroyed so they need to be rebuilt. Like Iraq, for example. They wrote about it, even, waaaaaaaaaay back. Cunts like Cheney, WolfiWitless, Cunt 1, Cunt 2, Cunt 3 (the names don't srping to mind, but I have the details, of course). Project for the New Yank Certuny / Mein Kampf I think it was.
ArtificialCleverenAI 1 year ago
Watch Richard Gage's 2 hr lecture. he conclusively proves controlled demolition, thus proving the official story is an utter fraud. his core proofs have not been and will never be debunked.
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
I'm not getting into this. That is not the point of the video. Even if you are right, it's not a way to convince people of anything, since most people don't believe that nonsense.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@FearsEdge It is in no way nonsense. It is conclusively, scientifically proven by Richard Gage's lecture. Before you condemn it as nonsense, perhaps you should... I don't know... watch the lecture? That would be the rational approach - starting from a point of complete neutrality and looking at the best pieces of evidence that both sides have to offer. the Gage lecture, as mentioned, is FULLY CONCLUSIVE in terms of proving controlled demolition.
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
Watch the video in the description if you want my opinions on this matter. I already told you that I am not getting into this here, it is not relevant to this video. I already said that even if you are right, focus on something that is not so difficult to convince people of.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@FearsEdge regardless of difficulty it is very important to convince people of this. it will undermine people's faith in government morality, and will give fire to the antiwar movement. it has the potential to become a movement that affects change (granted many people in the 911 truth movement are either naive or nationalistic or both)
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
There are FAR worse things to focus on that the state does, like enslaving an entire nation(as I pointed out in this very video).
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@FearsEdge of course there are far worse things, e.g. murdering one million plus iraqis. but when people perceive an immediate threat (acknowledging that the US gov could kill and did kill American citizens en masse) they are more inclined to act. I'm not 100% an antistatist, but i lean that way, and i cant think of a better way to delegitimize the state then to expose 911 as an inside job. it has a direct bearing on people's lives and makes them recog what the gov can do to its own citizens
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
Except reasonable people do not believe it because it is not based on fact, or reality. Deal with it. I almost started typing refutations to the controlled demolition thing, you almost got me to start getting into this bullshit yet again. I'm not doing it. That is not the point of this video, and I really have no interest in having that argument for the 5,000th time. None. Find someone else to bother with that crap, that is not what this video is about, nor what I care to do.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@FearsEdge So I assume you have conclusively disproven the fact that building 7 free fell for 2.5 seconds, only possible with controlled demolition? I assume you have also disproven the aspect involving gravitational potential energy, the aspect involving conservation of momentum, the eyewitness testimony, Steven Jones' and others' work on the nanothermite found, etc? If not, I suggest you stop saying it is not based on fact. these are all irrefutable facts.
techjunkie92 1 year ago
I assume you speak english, and understand when I said "I am not getting into this here."
FearsEdge 1 year ago
@FearsEdge Ok, I will send you a private message.
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
You a Bloody idiot. Go watch DPRJONES' Vids and it utterly destorys that stupid thing.
GregQzag 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
Bldg 7 DId not fall at "free fall speed" The total observed time of collapse of Bldg 7 is just over 22 seconds. This includes the collapse east penthouse first, moving to the west and then the upper floors buckeling and collapsing down, pancaking each floor below it.
The WTC7 Conspiracy watch?v=QilSHm0Luj4
GregQzag 1 year ago
@GregQzag 22 seconds is the highest estimate ive heard, but regardless, that is wholly irrelevant to what i said. See David Chandler's work. IT FELL AT FREE FALL FOR TWO AND A HALF SECONDS. Buildings cannot fall for free fall for any length of time without controlled demolition.
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@GregQzag DID I FUCKING SAY IT FELL AT FREE FALL? NO. It fell at free fall for TWO POINT FIVE SECONDS OF THE FALL. A BUILDING CANNOT FALL AT FREE FALL FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME WITHOUT EXPLOSIVES. SEE DAVID CHANDLER'S ANALYSIS AND RICHARD GAGE'S LECTURE.
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
it did not "fall at free fall" for any part of it. Watch the video. You can CLEARLY see it Pancake from the top down. The top Two Pentouses Collapsed first ( West one then the east one ) and then the top floors collapsed and each floor DOWN went next when it structualy failed. Btw,
ALL CAPS DON"T MAKE YOUR STUPID POINT ANY MORE PLAUSABLE
GregQzag 1 year ago
@GregQzag oh and the pankaking theory has been debunked COUNTLESS times
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92 I assume that you've looked into other 9/11 debunking videos, in particular dprjones'... oh, wait, no.
purplefuzzythings 1 year ago
@purplefuzzythings i have looked at plenty of debunking stuff
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92 it is not up to him to disprove anything. You are the ones making accusations against the official story. Building 7 has been addressed, I have yet to hear a valid hypothesis as how this was a controlled demolition. You claim there were explosives planted in these buildings. Answer the question how were they able to get explosives in the buildings and place them without ANYONE NOTICING, until you can give a plausible explanation for this then the rest of your claims are moot.
brokensoul70 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
Nice work.
missopinionated1976 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
lol, if you think all those things haven't been debunked 10 million times already, you obviously haven't even bothered with a google search. Never mind any reputable research & full analysis of the claims you just made.
OlympicRudi 1 year ago
@OlympicRudi I have bothered with plenty of google searches. 2.5 seconds of free fall has not been debunked, nor has the gravitational potential energy aspect, or the conservation of momentum aspect, or the nanothermite found. Perhaps you would like to enlighten me as to where I can find a refutation of those key proofs? Or perhaps you would like to state the refutations yourself. of course there have been debunking attempts, but none have refuted those core proofs.
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
lol, so the buckling of floors 7-14 have nothing to do with that actual 2.25 seconds then?
As for Nanothermite, just go watch Dprjones's recent debunking vids on those.
Your arguments, are either from made-up/misrepresented data or arguments from ignorance.
I expect you to just ignore whatever evidence you find & keep spouting the same old debunked theories though. You obviously don't want to actually the work, so I'll leave you to your delusions.
OlympicRudi 1 year ago
@OlympicRudi I have spent numerous hours researching 911, so dont fucking tell me "i dont want to do the work." I was initially very hostile to the 911 truth movement, but through research i have come to accept the awful reality. I have neither made up nor misrepresented any data. a building cannot fall at free fall for any length of time without explosives. Do your own research into gravitational potential energy, conservation of momentum, the bolt shearing, the eyewitness testimony...
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92 Look at the goddamn videos. The buildings do not fall at freefall speed.
purplefuzzythings 1 year ago
@purplefuzzythings See the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth website and David Chandler's work. The twin towers fall within the margin of error for free fall, and building 7 falls at free fall for a 2.5 second period (not the whole time).
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
lol, but you do & have misrepresented things, even in this thread. You say there are no explanations & there actually are. You say you've done the work, yet show no signs of it. I doubt even if you had the proof you were wrong right in front of you, you'd not believe it. Oh & please stop saying 2.5 seconds, when it's actually more like 2.25 seconds. Just another thing you haven't researched.
OlympicRudi 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
Also I have actually studied Physics(& particularly Mechanics) to University standards, despite it not being my degree. So I am well versed in both gravitational potential energy & conservation of momentum, aswell as a ton more stuff way beyond that basic introductory stuff.
You can keep spouting rubbish you know isn't true if you want. I'm not bothering with you anymore. I'll just say to anyone reading your stuff, do some proper research & don't take his lazy word for anything.
OlympicRudi 1 year ago
@FearsEdge I dont see why this is not relevant to this video. the video was about 911. I shared my comments with regard to 911. if you want to discuss it elesewhere we can... my initial intention was to get you to watch the Gage lecture
techjunkie92 1 year ago
@techjunkie92
Because the point of the video is saying where I stand on this matter, which is that even if 9/11 was an inside job, it's not something people are going to believe, and it's FAR down on the list of crimes that this state has committed. You completely miss the point of it, and try and get into this crap with me. I have been there and done that, and I am not interested in having that argument again, especially on this comment page.
FearsEdge 1 year ago
I've already made two videos dismantling truther arguments. Did it persuade them? No. Of course not. All I've done is confirmed that I am secretly working for the government.
JacobSpinney 1 year ago
It disappoints me to to see minarchist/anarchist also believe in the 9/11 conspiracy. I guess if you really want the government to be this evil organization, then it is only natural to see only the things that would make it look evil.
TheAtheistPaladin 1 year ago
I totally agree!
BTW I think theists are the real "sheeple", literally...
chessdawgz 1 year ago