Hi guys, I did the sound on the prophet v for arturia and also programmed the factory preset bank. We used the rarer rev 2 prophet for the emulation, it sounds quite different to the later rev 3...
I love all these people saying "Oh, the original sounds so much better! The Arturia version is so dull!" Me thinks that 95% of these people honestly can't tell the difference.
MrBa6, thanks for these videos. Although the Alturia Prophet comes close to the real thing, there's nothing like working with hardware when recording and playing live, IMHO. I used to own a P5 v. 3.3, am now considering the Prophet 08 PE which has more of what I always wanted in the P5.
But grateful to the programmers of Arturia, as the new gen guys can get an idea how the real hardware synth sounded, maybe synths that many will never be able to afford etc, so cheers and thanks to the vsts developers. But that all dude, do not pretend that your vsts are better or the same as the real hardwares.
You definitely cannot compare, the harmonics and the rumbling as someone mentioned, absent in the software version. The warmth and the depth too. Well I could make a lists, it is like comparing a Matchbox car with a real car.
I have a Prophet 5 (3.3) and Prophet V. The Prophet V does a really good job of emulating the qualities of the real instrument. I could use either in a mix and nobody would hear the difference at all. each voice of a typical P5 sounds different now days because of aging caps and parts. If the Prophet 5 was restored to original condition and calibrated, they would sound 99% the same = something that you could only hear in tweeker shootouts and not in the real world context of a song.
The Prophet rumbles, and you can hear very audible harmonics aand obvious depth, Whilst there are zero harmonics in the Prophet V... I don't want to stick around for filter comparisons then. They don't sound alike, they are just making the same sounds to me.
The real SCI Prophet 5 dfeinitely sounds better in this video, however i'm sure with small sound tweaks you could get the Arturia sounding very to the original.
BIG difference in timbre on factory setting 21. UniGlideWithRes. Software version sounds like crap; the low end is fragile and muddy, and the high end doesn't have near the edge the hardware does. The real Prophet-5 has a huge, fat low end. It makes you want to keep listening to it, which is what analogue oscillators are famous for. Digital oscillators, no matter if they're PERFECTLY modeled or not, sound terrible in comparison.
I can't stand the Arturia sound, how hard i try to like it... any plugin actually..
They really all sound "incomplete", a lot of the original depth is lost, that's why analog stuff costs a fortune these days, people hear the difference and are willing to pay a large sum for the real deal.
Software gets outdated and finally incompatible with your DAW, a real waste of money...
Software manufacturers really struck gold.. they make money out of thin air..
@karelpostthuis I don't understand how sounds are 'incomplete'. I use Arturia stuff through large studio speakers via XLR connections and the sound is quite rich. Although to be honest the Prophet VS sounds a little off.
I own real analog as well - It's not a walk in the park. Sourcing parts can be a hassle and soldiering old boards can be annoying.
There's no money made out of thin air. Software needs a lot of time and resources to develop.
@karelpostthuis Have you run the softsynth in 48Khz with good outputs?
I know what you mean by a 'dynamic' lowend. I'm not going to sit here and say there's 'no difference'. Analog VCFs especially saturate nicely when you drive them. I think that's where the 'bass richness' really comes from.
However, that still doesn't make software unusable. I can emulate the majority of 'nuances' of analog using small tweaks, Some FM and filter sounds are just not right with softs, but nothing is perfect.
@karelpostthuis Have you run the softsynth in 48Khz with good outputs?
I know what you mean by a 'dynamic' lowend. I'm not going to sit here and say there's 'no difference'. Analog VCFs especially saturate nicely when you drive them. I think that's where the 'bass richness' really comes from.
However, that still doesn't make software unusable. I can emulate the majority of 'nuances' of analog using small tweaks, Some FM and filter sounds are just not right with softs, but nothing is perfect.
People dismiss software and make neg comments with any real basis of experience or fact.Digital is only as good as your soundcard or interface and your skills as a programmer.I had a Prophet rev 2 and a T8 and I was able to get very close to duplicating several older tracks from those vintage units with the Pro-V.I suddenly didn't miss the headache of owning and repairing and calibrating the real deal.Thank you arturia although your v-collection wont work beyond mac 10.5...for me anyway.
why is all audio sofwares so thin and low in quality as compared to real hardware synths, for crying out lound. Please hear the sounds through big speakers of your stereo system. If you hear the sounds through PC or laptop headphones or small speaker systems, you barely feel the difference and will say '' Great!'' sounds pretty close to the real hardware synth or even better. Go take a break and stop being a big nerd playing on your PC or laptop all day long.
But guys ok, I know hardware is pretty expensive, and all these audio synth programmers have made us expenrience the feeling of using a real hardware synth.
So big cheers to them. But just remember, it's not for serious production, just for kids to play with.
software craps of all kinds, both synths and samplers, the sound is so thin, you cannot produce anything serious from it, it's just for kids to play. But man, what can I say, I 've been wasting years of my my life myself with these synth sofware crap.
you want a comparison of a real hardware synth from a software synth ok. Just plug it on your HIFI stereo system and hear the soung through big speakers. Then you hear the difference. If you listen through PC headphones or small computer speaker system, you will not find this big difference. Go ahead, make the test to see yourself. Good luck.
@malatia7575 The speakers matter, but do to the outputs. You can't just run software synths via a cheap PC cable. You need a good Audio Interface to get defined bass.
BTW... When you say 'software synth' are you also including VA hardware as well? All VAs are essentially software as well.
Do you suggest only analog synths make real sounds?
When I tested this I found that Native Instruments' Pro 53 was almost identical to the original, whereas the Arturia version had subtle differences in many places.
@TheFrokka The Arturia layout and function of knobs and switches matches the original Prophet while the Native Instruments differs. This is why i prefer the Arturia.
I love artoria stuff, used them for years....ive decided to sell my 6 artoria synths....need to sell as 1 package as the licence for all 6 synths is on 1 dongle
Hi guys, I did the sound on the prophet v for arturia and also programmed the factory preset bank. We used the rarer rev 2 prophet for the emulation, it sounds quite different to the later rev 3...
mypianoisbroken 1 day ago
I love all these people saying "Oh, the original sounds so much better! The Arturia version is so dull!" Me thinks that 95% of these people honestly can't tell the difference.
TheOberheimer 2 weeks ago
So would you sell the real thing given that 90% of the sound seems to be there in software?
maccagrabme 4 weeks ago
MrBa6, thanks for these videos. Although the Alturia Prophet comes close to the real thing, there's nothing like working with hardware when recording and playing live, IMHO. I used to own a P5 v. 3.3, am now considering the Prophet 08 PE which has more of what I always wanted in the P5.
BruinBrass 1 month ago
both synths sound very dull for me. RME fireface 800 and ADAM A7 is my environment. I can hardly believe that was a real hardware Prophet V by SCI.
venus1an 1 month ago
But grateful to the programmers of Arturia, as the new gen guys can get an idea how the real hardware synth sounded, maybe synths that many will never be able to afford etc, so cheers and thanks to the vsts developers. But that all dude, do not pretend that your vsts are better or the same as the real hardwares.
malatia7575 1 month ago
How can a pocket cunt feel the same like a real cunt. Use your logic.
malatia7575 1 month ago
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malatia7575 1 month ago
You definitely cannot compare, the harmonics and the rumbling as someone mentioned, absent in the software version. The warmth and the depth too. Well I could make a lists, it is like comparing a Matchbox car with a real car.
malatia7575 1 month ago
I have a Prophet 5 (3.3) and Prophet V. The Prophet V does a really good job of emulating the qualities of the real instrument. I could use either in a mix and nobody would hear the difference at all. each voice of a typical P5 sounds different now days because of aging caps and parts. If the Prophet 5 was restored to original condition and calibrated, they would sound 99% the same = something that you could only hear in tweeker shootouts and not in the real world context of a song.
xpanderxt2 2 months ago
The Prophet rumbles, and you can hear very audible harmonics aand obvious depth, Whilst there are zero harmonics in the Prophet V... I don't want to stick around for filter comparisons then. They don't sound alike, they are just making the same sounds to me.
KennaOkoye 2 months ago
Arturia sounds so dull compared to the original...
dragonsagoth666 2 months ago
I'm guessing that some of the low end difference between the hardware and the software could be that the hardware hasn't been calibrated.
meedily 3 months ago
The real SCI Prophet 5 dfeinitely sounds better in this video, however i'm sure with small sound tweaks you could get the Arturia sounding very to the original.
SpiralTrance 4 months ago
BIG difference in timbre on factory setting 21. UniGlideWithRes. Software version sounds like crap; the low end is fragile and muddy, and the high end doesn't have near the edge the hardware does. The real Prophet-5 has a huge, fat low end. It makes you want to keep listening to it, which is what analogue oscillators are famous for. Digital oscillators, no matter if they're PERFECTLY modeled or not, sound terrible in comparison.
bassman50fender 6 months ago
@bassman50fender
You are so right!
I can't stand the Arturia sound, how hard i try to like it... any plugin actually..
They really all sound "incomplete", a lot of the original depth is lost, that's why analog stuff costs a fortune these days, people hear the difference and are willing to pay a large sum for the real deal.
Software gets outdated and finally incompatible with your DAW, a real waste of money...
Software manufacturers really struck gold.. they make money out of thin air..
karelpostthuis 6 months ago
@karelpostthuis I don't understand how sounds are 'incomplete'. I use Arturia stuff through large studio speakers via XLR connections and the sound is quite rich. Although to be honest the Prophet VS sounds a little off.
I own real analog as well - It's not a walk in the park. Sourcing parts can be a hassle and soldiering old boards can be annoying.
There's no money made out of thin air. Software needs a lot of time and resources to develop.
crabber338 5 months ago
@crabber338 Software synth replica's sound thin, in harmonics as well as low end.
The real Prophet 5 has an almost uncontrollable low end that makes it dynamic and powerful.
The Arturia version lacks that and more, i can immediately tell it's the soft version.
If there was a virtual analog that did the trick, i was on it in a heartbeat, but sadly there isn't...
I reckon you didn't compare a real P5 to the software, but some other simpler analog...
Maybe that's why you don't hear the problem.
karelpostthuis 5 months ago
@karelpostthuis Have you run the softsynth in 48Khz with good outputs?
I know what you mean by a 'dynamic' lowend. I'm not going to sit here and say there's 'no difference'. Analog VCFs especially saturate nicely when you drive them. I think that's where the 'bass richness' really comes from.
However, that still doesn't make software unusable. I can emulate the majority of 'nuances' of analog using small tweaks, Some FM and filter sounds are just not right with softs, but nothing is perfect.
crabber338 5 months ago
@karelpostthuis Have you run the softsynth in 48Khz with good outputs?
I know what you mean by a 'dynamic' lowend. I'm not going to sit here and say there's 'no difference'. Analog VCFs especially saturate nicely when you drive them. I think that's where the 'bass richness' really comes from.
However, that still doesn't make software unusable. I can emulate the majority of 'nuances' of analog using small tweaks, Some FM and filter sounds are just not right with softs, but nothing is perfect.
crabber338 5 months ago
People dismiss software and make neg comments with any real basis of experience or fact.Digital is only as good as your soundcard or interface and your skills as a programmer.I had a Prophet rev 2 and a T8 and I was able to get very close to duplicating several older tracks from those vintage units with the Pro-V.I suddenly didn't miss the headache of owning and repairing and calibrating the real deal.Thank you arturia although your v-collection wont work beyond mac 10.5...for me anyway.
carlheinz 6 months ago
God damned! f......c it man all those f....
malatia7575 7 months ago
why is all audio sofwares so thin and low in quality as compared to real hardware synths, for crying out lound. Please hear the sounds through big speakers of your stereo system. If you hear the sounds through PC or laptop headphones or small speaker systems, you barely feel the difference and will say '' Great!'' sounds pretty close to the real hardware synth or even better. Go take a break and stop being a big nerd playing on your PC or laptop all day long.
malatia7575 7 months ago
But guys ok, I know hardware is pretty expensive, and all these audio synth programmers have made us expenrience the feeling of using a real hardware synth.
So big cheers to them. But just remember, it's not for serious production, just for kids to play with.
malatia7575 7 months ago
software craps of all kinds, both synths and samplers, the sound is so thin, you cannot produce anything serious from it, it's just for kids to play. But man, what can I say, I 've been wasting years of my my life myself with these synth sofware crap.
malatia7575 7 months ago
you want a comparison of a real hardware synth from a software synth ok. Just plug it on your HIFI stereo system and hear the soung through big speakers. Then you hear the difference. If you listen through PC headphones or small computer speaker system, you will not find this big difference. Go ahead, make the test to see yourself. Good luck.
malatia7575 7 months ago
@malatia7575 The speakers matter, but do to the outputs. You can't just run software synths via a cheap PC cable. You need a good Audio Interface to get defined bass.
BTW... When you say 'software synth' are you also including VA hardware as well? All VAs are essentially software as well.
Do you suggest only analog synths make real sounds?
crabber338 5 months ago
well... in this comparison the Arturia Prophet V sounds almost better than the original, with better defined mid-highs :)
gasteropodica 7 months ago
360p? I'm sorry to say, but in this quality, comparison isn't worth much, because nuances that make a synth, cannot be heard.
zyguli 7 months ago in playlist Arturia Prophet V vs. SCI Prophet 5
When I tested this I found that Native Instruments' Pro 53 was almost identical to the original, whereas the Arturia version had subtle differences in many places.
TheFrokka 7 months ago
@TheFrokka The Arturia layout and function of knobs and switches matches the original Prophet while the Native Instruments differs. This is why i prefer the Arturia.
MrBa6 7 months ago
@mrba6...thanks matey but ill just sell all 6 with the single dongle....take care mate
tubewayarmy2005 8 months ago
I love artoria stuff, used them for years....ive decided to sell my 6 artoria synths....need to sell as 1 package as the licence for all 6 synths is on 1 dongle
tubewayarmy2005 8 months ago
@tubewayarmy2005 As far as i know is it possible to buy separate dongles and to transfer single licences to them.
MrBa6 8 months ago
Great video! On the first factory sound at 0:38 what song are you playing?
MrVanquish4 8 months ago
@MrVanquish4 Thank you for your Comment! Its not really a song at 0:38, just a few chords: Am7 Am/G Dm7 Em7
MrBa6 8 months ago
Excellent
musicroman 10 months ago
@musicroman Thanks!
MrBa6 10 months ago