Flemish parlementarians beaten by French Walloon riot police

[eniotnasnyw]

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[eXowomb]

@mawte62 you might want to look up some actual flemish history; and see who (before the francophones & everyone else invaded us) had some of the wealthiest and influential cities in europe during the middle ages... the francophones became wealthy through stealing from flanders and the congo (you do know what the early belgian-francophone politicians said about the flemish right? that we were on par with the lowest races in the world and needed to be civilised),the flemish by working for it...

[Daniel11nike]

@eXowomb

als je wil dat er aan jouw eisen wordt voldaan, zul je moeten accepteren dat je ook zelf aan een paar Franse eisen moet toegeven. Wat is er in godsnaam zo erg aan twee (Sint-Genesis-Rode en Hoeilaart) toch al verfranste gemeentes aan Brussel afstaan als je daarmee meer autonomie krijgt voor de gemeentes die wél echt Vlaams zijn?

[legrandejorge]

@mawte62 Forgotten the past? You mean the past (and present) in wich you tried to destroy our language and culture on an institutional level? And dude, Flemish thieves who got rich by taking Walloon money? Damn, you really have no clue of history, combined with an inherent lack of intelligence lol

[mawte62]

@legrandejorge Your mind is manipulated by fuhrer Bart, don't you. In the past we gave you a little help for your famous battle against the french isn't it? If you forgotten the past you will be condamned to begin this once again. It's real bulshit to say during the first world war, flemish was dying because officiers speak only french. If you believe that say heil fuhrer bart... Poor mind.

[legrandejorge]

@mawte62 Ow wait, you are replying to the comment in wich I spoke of Bart De Wever, the battle of the golden spurs and the utter misconduct when it came to deploying Flemish soldiers in 14-18? That's sarcasm by the way, since I never spoke about any of these topics (you come over a tat slow, that's why I explain this elaborately). Here's a hint: try out structure in comments and get your facts straight. And steer clear of clichés like 'history will repeat itself' and 'Flanders is naziville'.

[eXowomb]

@mawte62 the fact that you call him a fuhrer speaks volumes about where you get your info... le soir, the francophones own daily version of mein kampf.

[XWhateverImLeavingX]

@legrandejorge je weet toch dat heel ver terug de walen het geld stelen van de vlamingen en niet andersom sorry maar dat is de waarheid De walen waren ver terug al klootzakken en nu zijn de meeste dat nog. You that in the past the waloons the money steal from the flemish not the other way around. Sorry but that's the truth. Back then the waloons were assholes and now are the waloons still assholes.

[mawte62]

yeah great. Freedom for Bruxelles.



[BelgianMusic]

@mawte62 and how is brussels supposed to do that? it is surrounded and bankrolled by the flemish and used to be a brabantic (in modern terms: flemish) city. its airport, services and everything else lie in flemish territory, etc etc etc. not really feasible, is it?

[separatesix]

Free Vlaanderen!

[autofreak7]

Rubbish! The Christian Democrats would never do something that tacky, and as far as I can see, CD&V is still by far the largest democratic party in Flanders

[walnoot123]

the problem is not the french part of belgium, the big problem is arabic part, please look at what is happening in brussels and so it won t happen in you city/country. they have no respect whatever, and then are we racist?? really crazy.

[MrUKIDDING]

we are the same in the uk i understand you completely our governments are fools lettingislam in, in the first place we should all copy switzerland and get rid of this evil religion muslims call peaceful lol. fuck islam.

[omuleanu]

lol, i saw a rear naked choke there :D

[separatesix]

Free Flanders!

[StellandBlood]

Flanders is Belgium,and always will be.

Belgium is unbreakable.

[anakin088]

It' amazing that filip de winter(a racist and nazi man) receveive 38.9 pourcent of votes in antwerpen,city where there are many muslims.What a tolerence. If i was in front of this man,I would act like police,

[anakin088]

Peacefully? I don't think so.. THis video is absolutely subjective.just a scandale. For me a "demonstation against islamisation" meant "a non-violent racist demonstration" . I'm proud that walloon act like this because this kind of demonstration should be forbidden. At 1:31 minutes you can see filip dewinter the flemish president of racist party. This man can be seen in neo nazi demonstration,... When in I saw this man in this demonstration,I understand why the police act like this.

[tyngel2]

As always the french-speaking peoples are ruining Europe!

We should all drop atomic bombs all over France and southern Belgium!

[ninjastefano]

ze zullen hem niet temmen!

de fiere vlaamse leeuw!

al dreigen ze zijn vrijheid,

met kluisters en geschreeuw!

ze zullen hem niet temmen,

zo lang een vlaming leeft!

zo lang een leeuw kan klauwen,

zo lang hij tanden heeft!

[sjl62]

Oh Belgium . . . when will you just chill out and realize that no one cares?

[hedonismrocks]

another day, another moron..

[omfg4000]

Nationalists and Leftists should unite.

Honestly, they want us and the police to fight each other. The only thing that we differ in is immigration and conservation.

Leftists want to have different cultures everywhere while nationalists think that there is more diversity if cultures are more independent.

Both sides love culture, love expressing themselves, want to build a stabile country free from a police state, free from nazism and fascism and free from neo-liberalism.

[socialist100red]

hahaha that fucking nazi did not get fucked up well ,shit job from the cops...

[Lucicluc]

Vlaanderen onafhankelijk!

Franstaligen: aanpassen of opkrassen!

[arminius270]

Fuck Brussels, fuck the European Union, and FUUUUUCK Belgium.

[marinerEA]

Belgie barst, gedaan met betalen!!

[Betongenn]

wallonians are much cooler than flemish ppl.

[eXowomb]

good one.. it really is cool to live off someone else's money, refusing to speak their language when you move to their turf, to be a socialist from birth to death, to have a superiority complex but not having the money to show it off, to be monolingual, etc... yeah, that's so cool.

[european00guy]

why do you think the walloon aint learning dutch? because it's a useless language not worth speaking unless you want to live in the Netherlands, Belgium or Surinam...

French is widely spoken around the world.

You flemish are scum, racist bastards. ga jij moeder neukken!

[hedonismrocks]

the only comment that is "racist" here is yours, but you're too dumb to even notice that...

if french-speakers move to flanders they shouldn't frenchify those parts but just learn the language, simple. flemish people do the same. language is not the main prlblem though, although it might seem so to simpletons like yourself who evades the real issues and make this into some good vs evil charade. what a fool.

[BelgianMusic]

i think we can all agree that you're the racist bastard here... and when francophones move to flanders then they need to do the right thing and learn the language of the region they move to. if you can't understand that then we should split up. the only reason that francophones don't want to split up belgium is the €17,000,000,000 they get from flanders, without they'd be bankrupt.

we respect your language, do the same to ours and there wouldn't have been a problem.

[ninjastefano]

european00guy

what you say makes no sense at all, you say that dutch is a useless language UNLESS you live in BELGIUM... well, gues where the walloons live: IN BELGIUM!! :p do your homework before posting an ignorant and idiotic comment on youtube ;-) show respect if you want to receive it.

blessed are those weak of mind,

they shall see the kingdom of heaven

(so lucky you eh ;-) )

[nikhoa]

"beaten and molested by a Walloon French speaking riot police."??!!bullshit, cops speak dutch too

[hakkehumus]

No, the police came from Liege, so Frenchspeaking.

[nikhoa]

if you said so...but why they have the 2 official language on the jacket? you really thing there is none policeman from brussels here? don't you think is like impossible?

[hakkehumus]

Yes off course the police of Brussels was also their, they are the ones with police/P

politie on their back. The other ones are from Liege. And that they have the 2 official language on their jacket doesn't say anything.

[roquet]

Freedom for Flanders!

Freedom for Catalonia!

[rbkfootballcentre]

Vlaanderen zijn de grootste bevolking van België!

[kareljuwet]

"Vlaanderen zijn de grootste bevolking van België"

ofwel "vlaanderen is het dichtst bevolkd gebied van belgië"

ofwel "de vlamingen vertegenwoordigen de grootste bevolkingsgroep van belgië"

leer vlaams als je een vlaming bent!!

[eXowomb]

hij is nederlander..

[kareljuwet]

ah, nu begrijp ik het :P

[stijnz]

het was een verboden betoging, bij deelname aan een verboden betoging word je administratief aangehouden. Meneer De Winter kan nauwelijks zijn glimlach inhouden wanneer hij opgepakt wordt. Missie geslaagd.

[mooieplaats]

Pobrecita Belgica!

[Jacques8022]

There is 6 million Dutch-speaking in our country. And to say that the French-speaking people (4 million) want to destroy the Dutch language is false, and impossible but simply a pretext to hate the other community !!! Simply intolerant !

[yvesgomez]

why beaten ? they are not beaten at all...

[DLYE7V15]

or PetrerRage if you want , we'll open the discussion on Indians (or your now politically correct name Native Americans)

Given how you handled that issue / people you surely have the right to tell us (and the rest of the world) how we should do things . A true light of Morallity that shines bright all over the world!

[DLYE7V15]

together , if that would have worked it would have been done after the defeat of Napeleon.

I will not go further and correct you on every mistake you made (i only have 1 lifetime , apparently just as many as you have braincell(s) All i can do is wish you more of the same , a lot of immigration without integration, respression of the indiginous , basically your own Israel colony tacticts/policy revisited on yourself, poetic justice! serves you right! but don't come cry in 10years !

[DLYE7V15]

Like you say PeterRage you don't have a clue ..; do people from texas speak a different language from the ones in New York , except for dialect , NO , now we don't wlcaim world domination and impossing of our language all over the globe , we just one our little (very little place) to be ours ... how about if enough Spics come to your hometown and tahn demand that their language be the governing one ... like that ? i think not ... and why are French and Walloon as well as Dutch and Flemish not

[PetrerRage]

As an american, I must admit, I don't see the contemporary cultural differencies that everyone seems to be claiming. Except for the language of course. Or should I say "languages" as there are so many different ways to speak Dutch or French in this country it seems. Are you people shure these are your original languages? You don't seem to speak them so well... "French" from France or "Dutch" from the Netherlands seem to be more homogeneous. Do people from Erps understand those from Kwerps?

[1987squirrel]

I think you need to look at Dutch/Flemish as 1 language, with several dialects. The same goos for French/Walloon. it is like the differences in language between Americans and British. But don;t get me wrong: Dutch, French, German and English are different languages for sure.

[1987squirrel]

There are a lot of cultural differences. It is hard to name examples, because I don't want to recess to racism:

- Politics

- Language

- Attitude

- problem-solving

- holidays

- motivation

- ...

And these were only from the top of my head. Pick any one if you want a more detailed explanation.

[DeBurgemeester]

The Dutch language has its roots in the Southern Netherlands, present-day Belgium... The sstandard Dutch language was most influenced by Brabantic, Hollandic & Flemish, so yes, Dutch is our original language... Inform yourself, instead of making these haphazard comments.

And Dutch from the Netherlands also knows many dialects.

[DeBurgemeester]

This is about much more than language, this is mostly about Francophones moving to Flanders while forming little enclaves and attaching yet more parts of Flanders to Francophonia, and the Walloon wellfare state (Walloons are socialists, Flemish are capitalists) surviving on Flemish money.

[PetrerRage]

Brussels hasn't got the right borders. Its agglomeration is larger than the borders that were drawn in 1962. Everybody knows why those borders are too small.

To keep Brussels "inside" the region of Flanders. Why are there people speaking french in Flanders? Because where those people live, is actually now Brussels-agglomeration. Yes, borders that was drawn 50 years ago are handicaping Brussels to develop proper transportation, or tax-system. Things change. Let it happen. Give Brussels a chance.

[PetrerRage]

Brussels is the capital of Belgium. Brussels is the capital of Belgians. Not Flanders. The Belgians are the people who are more aware than "plattepatatten" of the history of their own country.

A simple way to notice that Brussels is not the capital of Flanders is the fact that no Flemmish (less than 15%) live in Brussels. So, it is time for Flanders to understand that Brussels and Flanders are two distinctive regions.

[DeBurgemeester]

Wrong, Brussels (which was a Dutchs-speaking city up to a 100 years ago) is the capital of Belgium and Flanders. The capital of Wallonia is Namur. In fact, Dutch used to be spoken all the way into N. France (as is evident from all the Dutch-derived placenames there), it's the Flemish who have done nothing but lose rights & land, not the reverse.

Maybe if people got their info from both sides, instead of just Brussels you might have half a clue.

[PetrerRage]

plattepatatten: I could give a reply to each of your comments, but I don't think you have the information to understand my arguments, so I ain't losing time with it. The only thing is you keep believing there are only 2 communities in Belgium. But since the creation of Belgium, many people in Belgium mixed to create new communities that do not coroborate with your model of "Historic Flanders" from the middle-ages. Those were the people who believed in Belgium. And that started 180 years ago.

[DeBurgemeester]

Yes, 180 years... Dutch only got the same rights as French 70 years after the creation Belgium, so do not try to blame everything on the Flemish.

[DeBurgemeester]

And it's obvious that you don't have the information to understand any of our comments, or Belgium in general.

[venombxl]

flemish dont respect democratic right of french speaking people. This manifestation was not legal so it's normal for the brussels police to go in action

Fuck vlaanderen

[plattepatatten]

it's the francophones that don't respect the language laws that they themselves requested.. it's not the flemish that move to wallonia without ever adapting and then try to attach parts of wallonia to flanders. it's not us who disrespect everying francophone while expecting you to pay for us.

[plattepatatten]

educate yourself! the fact that so many of you aren't even aware of the most basic facts of history speaks volumes. we've always been lenient, always given in to the insane demands of francophones, lost over half our territory through the ages, were denied of speaking our own language, and then you have the nerve to say we don't respect franophone rights? have you gone insane?

[BicchiereNellaBirra]

Wait a second, in 1830 you made a civil war in order to separate from the Netherland. How did the Flemish go with the Walloons? And now, who takes Brussels?

You remind me of the Lega Nord in Italy, but at least they admit they do it for the money.

[corozingaro]

We, the people of Brussels, are surrounded by fools. Our city, is now a region like Flanders or Wallonia. We don't want to serve as battlefield for the nonsense of the 2 other regions anymore.

Some Facts:

-Belgium exists since before Dutch or French were spoken there, ask Jules Cesar.

-Walloons actually helped the Flamish back in 1302 (Namurians)!

-Brussels was a State-City during the middle-age, that means it was independent.

-A lot of Walloons have Flamish family names. Why?

[1987squirrel]

I told you this before:

- The "belgea" were a Celtic tribe which does not exist anymore. the Walloons are descendants from the Romanic people and the Flemish from the Germanic people

- The British and helped the French in the WW. So they need to form a country together?

- Brussels was by Flemish people long before that

- Because we were conquered by Napoleon and he was the first one to install civil mariage and births, for which you had to give a family name.

[corozingaro]

-To design the borders of "New Flanders", you refer to the middle-age. Why? And if so, why not reclaim the part of "Historical Flanders" which is now in France (Lille included)? You go back 800 years to justify Flanders, then I go back 2000 years to justify Belgium. Same stupid process.

[corozingaro]

-Belgium is not divided in 2 different communities, history is much more complicated and subtle than that. Belgium is Europe's Bastard and that's OK.

-True, native people of Brussels spoke a dutch-based dialect. Which was different than the one from Antwerp or Bruges. New Flanders only started with "StandaardNederlands" (A.B.N.)

-Because a lot of Walloons are of Flemish origin.

[corozingaro]

"Belgium" is a way-too modern concept for Flanders and Wallonia to understand. In Europe nobody's happy with its borders. Kosovars, Kurds, Turks, Greeks, Irish, Corsicans, Basques, Catalans, ...

Every culture has a right to speak out, but in Belgium, instead of focusing on the real deal (CO2, plastic in the ocean) there's always this old debate bout what to do with Brussels? Independence! Proud to be neither Flemish neither Walloon neither Christian neither Muslim. Brussels rules over all!

[schockaert]

One some points you're right corozingaro,but haven't you seen the current relationship between Flanders,Walloon and Brussels? Flanders is economicly the best state of the three and has less poor and homeless people. Let me ask you something,what have the Walonians?Countryside? I agree that we shouldn't discuss about Brussels or Brussels-halle-vilvoorde and I don't care which borders Flanders will have,but I still think that if these situations occur more often, seperation'll be our best choice.

[corozingaro]

Ok, Walloons, Flemish not the same culture. But what do you do with all the mixed families? Those who can't say I'm a proud Flemish or a proud Walloon, but can say: I'm a proud Belgian.

What's the point of reducing Flanders-economical field to a smaller territory? Did everyone forget why Benelux was created? And then Europe? Isn't this like going back in time? I believe Flanders should invest in Wallonia, and teach them some things. All of which is easier when it's the same "country"...

[corozingaro]

This is just a matter of image; what propaganda seduces you the most?

Do you think an autonomous Flanders will give Flanders more power than it already has? Yes, royalty used to be a better cement in Belgium, and a weakness of charisma of the actual tribe is a good starting point to really think about there use. But Europe is not as "modern" as it claims to be. Some structures are archaic. Still, it works like it is. Let's put some oil in the machine, instead of always wanting to re-design it.

[corozingaro]

Don't you know how much bad publicity this gives us seen from the outside? Of course, the structure has to be redesigned. Politically, but not that much economically. Everyone in the world knows now that Flanders exists as a culture, and how strong Flanders is. An economical fracture between Brussels, Flanders and Wallonia will provoke havoc and cost everyone too much. Because you want to sing "De Fiere Vlaamse Leeuw" at the Olympics? OK, but then again, there are good athletes in Wallonia too

[schockaert]

Again I must say I agree, but still, I must say that there will be always feuds between us,flemish and the waloons. I mean, Filip de Winter?? Enio Di rupo?And BHV. I guess this is far from over.

[plattepatatten]

who cares about bad publicity when all we are doing is standing up for our rights. the prosperity of belgium comes from flanders, if you guys didn't disrespect the flemish and their language there wouldn't be a problem. the apst is the past, and all would be forgiven if it weren't for the simple fact that the francophones still ahve a superiority complex, still move to flanders while trying to annex out territory.

[plattepatatten]

stop it with the damn lies.. if the average walloon looked at this truthfully & rationally then you wouldn't have to feel ashamed, but no, you completely revise history and everything the flemish ad to and still have to endure in this sorry excuse for a country.

we're done being your cashcows, we're done being disrespected, we're done with handing over territory and giving you special treatment.

[plattepatatten]

you move to flanders? you learn the language. don't ask for special treatment that is unavailable to flemish people. don't try to transform flemish areas into francophone socialist enclaves. we're prosperous for a reason, we must be doing something right compared to wallonia, so attaching more of flanders to wallonia will jsut make more parts of this country poor.

learn the fucking history, don't revise it.

[oliderid]

ashamed of what exactly? I'm freelance since 1997 directly after I left school. never been unemployed. I paid all my taxes and I just hired an employee. I have probably paid more taxes that you have ever done in your whole life. So f** you and all your over generalization, this is plain xenophoby. .

[plattepatatten]

the bad publcity comes from the fact that walloons are making it look as if the flemish are fascists, that's your fault, not ours. if you respect the flemish enough to take their money (which is more than what west-germany pays to east-germany every year!!!) then you should also respect our reasonable demands and issues, not twist the facts for your own benefit.. again... as the walloons have always been doing.

[plattepatatten]

enough is enough. you're creating your own enemy, while we have always been more lenient than your best friend would've been, without EVER getting ANYThING in return.

we can be best friends as long as we don't liev in the same house.. we have no issues with giving financial aid to wallonia, but under our terms, not yours! we take the blame for you denigrating our language, we take the blame for you taking our territory, and when we say enough is enough we take even more blame.

[PetrerRage]

Man, you are simple-minded. Your knowledge of History is weak. Your vision of Belgium is retarded. Of about 60 years. You must live in a village far away from any city, civilisation or even books. You've just discovered internet, and realized you could actually leave a written-opinion! Don't abuse, man. First go to university, and take history and economics as majors. Upgrade your brains. Now.

[lievekeuhh]

In a flemmish school or a walloon one .. ??

[eddyzza]

we are investing, during 50 years now every flemish family has given a car to wallonia, (metaphor) and there's nothing wrong with that, but the money is badly invested and the arrogant walloon politicians still believe that they are better then then flemisch farmers

[mattyr2k8]

while at the same time, muslims are allowed to riot "BOMB BOMB UK" on the streets of london.

[gabrielemillo]

I do support philip Dewinter and the independence of Flanders!

Advise for France: when Walloonia will be left alone, don't annex them. Walloons, who are far left-wing, lazy, phedophile and full of radical muslims, would bring only shame on you!

[jupileric]

Waw, you must be very clever to say such things! Have you studied political sciences?

[belgo3]

The Policemen from Brussels are mainly bilingual, but french speakers are mainly unilingual, so the policemen who are on this video are mainly flemish ...

[ThomThomson]

The policemen on this video are riot police from Liège who were sent on the order of Walloon PS Brussels Mayer Thielemans.

[PFBMCX]

I'm from Spain, actually Catalan but not nationalist or fascist at all!!! It's a pity to read comments like yours! Make Flemish's more " "

I studied in Belgium -- Brussels in a Flemish university (We were supposed to be in a French speaking university!)I think Flemish people have a massive problem with themselves--FRUSTRATION! They forced us to learn Dutch while we were doing a partnership in the capital of Europe!!

[PFBMCX]

It's so ridiculous (believe me it happens in Catalunya as well!!! I'm so ashamed. Flanders has more power in Belgium now (thanks to Wallonia that helped it to grow!)so leave the people in peaceful way; you cannot blame Walloons people for what their ancestors have done!!!!

[FredFloret]

Wallonia never helped Flanders to grown, in the past the suppression of French speaking was enormous. eg. most of the money of the marchal plan after the second war went to Wallonia

[PFBMCX]

Part2: Do I have to presume that almost all Flemish's are ignorant? My answer is NO I don't think so.

I studied there and had amazing time with Flemish's.

Ok let's think -- I'm from Cataluña why people from Bilbao, Madrid, Valencia or wherever in Spain

Should learn Catalan? We can talk and speak Catalan in Cataluña - It's the same in Belgium why people from Namur should learn Dutch? CAN you talk and speak Flemish in Flanders = YES so where is the doubt?

[ThomThomson]

The Walloon people even come and live in Flanders and they refuse to speak Dutch and then don't even need to learn Dutch in education, they can chose between English or Ducth and most chose English while we, Flemish citizens need to speak French as well. This ain't fair, this ain't how it should be. I call for an independent Flanders, that's how it should be, how it always should have been.

[jupileric]

I'm from Wallonia and I can tell you that lots of children are obliged to learn Dutch in primary school and everybody has to learn Dutch in the 4 first years of secondary (and you can stop it only if you choose sciences, maths or ancient languages). Of course we forget all after finishing school but it's only because we don't need it. It's impossible to know a language if you don't use it often. That's why Walloons prefer English than Dutch or German.

[ThomThomson]

Then learn it anyway, out of solidarity. You are always speaking of solidarity, well then be a true 'Belgian' and learn dutch anyway. If you are to lazy to do that you're not worth the biljons of euros we invest in you each year.

[Demarchist]

That's not the problem, the problem is Francophones moving to Flemish areas and refusing to adapt to their local surroundings just like everyone else. If Eastern-Europeans, Middle-Easterners and others can do it, so can the Walloon "immigrants" to Flanders. It's completely disrespectful to move somewhere (supposedly because you like it there more than where you came from) and not learn the language. But it goes further than that, more of them move here and ask for attachment to Wallonia.

[lievekeuhh]

= No you can't trust me YOU CAN'T speak flemmish in all parts of Flanders I happen to live in one ... this is why foreigners shouldn't critize Belgium Flanders or Walloon

[lievekeuhh]

they still insult us for what our ancestors were - the working class-.. so we don't blame them for what their ancestors have done .. we blame them for what they're doing NOW

[PFBMCX]

And as a European citizen I DO NOT WANT TO BE REPRESENTED by a country where the majority of people (especially Flemish's) are pro separatism, fascist or whatever... Thanks to Wallonia if Belgium as such a good image worldwide (it was 3rd power in the world) Now this has switched to the North side; everyone has to contribute for the economy of the country - now it's your (Flanders) turn.

[FredFloret]

Wallonia never contributed for the economy, and still they keep up holding on unacceptabal imposements.

[PFBMCX]

Part1:Wallonia never contributed for the economy!!!??? Do am i talking to an ignorant?

You should review your history!

I'm not taking part of anyone. I'm just based on facts! And I do not understand why the extreme right wing reached the second place in Flanders???

Even me as Spanish, I know that Wallonia was economically one of the richest in Europe so please don't take any excuses from "Flemish political parties -- it's so little!

[FredFloret]

yes offcours, they were very rich. But why do you think they are so rich?

Flemish people where almost theire slaves! I know my history, the 'Boerenkrijg' is one of the most important things in that subject.

[zannekin]

reread flemish history again PFBMCX flanders was once called venice of northern europe

and got even more richer during the golden age

in the united nederlands, wen the so called "belgian revolution" or "Wallonian revolution" came flanders came one of the poorest country's in europe

[lievekeuhh]

-a country where the majority of people (especially Flemish's) are pro separatism-

where did you get that figure -- you know a flemmish newspaper asked a lot of flemish people only 30 % was pro separatism .. in a walloon paper that figure magically turned into over 60 % ... maybe you should check your info because 6 months ago no one (besides the -i think- RACIST vlaams belang) was talking about separating!!

[cazeloof]

face to ground, nazi

[Curixq]

Kunnen we belgië niet gewoon laten zoals het is?

Als vlaanderen onafhankelijk wordt, hebben we geen walloniers meer om mee te lachen.

[Thunderwavia]

Seperate Flanders!!! from your Walloon Socialist Islamists! Walloonia subversive Socialists want to continue the enslavement by all means possible! They want to replace the Flemish with liberal immigrants with facsist agandas! WAKE up, and get it over with.

[herrtoto]

vuile communisten, vlaanderen onafhankelijk en islam buiten

[lievekeuhh]

stemt g toevallig op het vlaams belang? vuile nazi...

[herrtoto]

moe ik mij verantwoorden aan u? hahaha zielig

[lievekeuhh]

ni zo zielig als racisme..

[herrtoto]

jaja whatever

[lievekeuhh]

waaauuuuww ook van plan om politicus te worde?

[erwte005]

dus bent ge al nazi als je voor het vlaams belang stemt?

man man doeie paardenbril af commu

[flomocean]

erger nog, ge zijt zelfs al nazi/flamingant als ge zegt dat iets uit vlaanderen komt... zo ver is het al gekomen.

[akasha001]

Komaan zeg, VB en vrije meningsuiting? Pure haat tegen mensen die anders zijn!

Dewinter en co zijn opgepakt geweest, met reden! Hun partij is veroordeeld geweest voor racisme, met reden!

Als Vlaanderen er zo zou moeten uit zien, zoals die fascisten het willen, neen merci! Ze werden veel te braaf behandeld door de federale (= ook vlamingen, btw) politie.

Laat uw demagogie maar achterwege.

[FredFloret]

Jongske toch, dit is de Belgische ziekte, overal is iedereen benoemt naar jare lange traditionele partijen. Rechters zijn gvd gekleurd! Er is geen waardige rechtspraak meer.

[PFBMCX]

TAKE A LOOK in Holland, they are not paranoid with their own language!!! They can even choose between studying in Dutch or English and it's not such a big deal!

Ooh for me Yves Leterme = Berlusconi, Bush,José María Aznar all crappies!

[jupileric]

Yes, Hollanders know their language is not usefull and don't expect people to learn Dutch abroad. Only the Flemish want Walloons to speak Dutch even if they never have to use it.

[ak2daram]

HAHA fuck those NAZIS and demagogue! You are getting beaten up by your own police

[BOUCHAK]

plattepatatten... France give you all the muslims against

All the walloons you don't want to live with... please accept that and I promise to learn Dutch language...

[williramone]

fuck the islam, fuck it. We dont need you all!

[roberttoob]

Het is de hoogste tijd om Belgie te splitsen: Frans Wallonie en Vlaanderen, en de Walen mogen bovendien de Noord Afrikanen hebben.

[lmora013]

forgive my naivete, but is this not a Germanic-Latin conflict? I can certaily understand why you'd wanna scapegoat the ugly foreigners, but there is an unresolved issue within Belgium going back hundreds of years...

[ramashkagromik]

muslims go home or BEHAVE (fair choise, aint it?) Belgium remains Belgium - period!

[plattepatatten]

i'd much rather have 100 muslims in my neighbourhood than 10 wallooons... and belgium will not remain belgium, it's an artificial state imposed on the majority flemish by the minority francophones.

[ramashkagromik]

you should be interogated with stalinist's methods. then you'll know!

[POOPM321]

Muslims please go home. I don't dislike you.. not yet! But our country has room for just one flag... OUR flag. You must fly your own on your own soil. We are becoming overcrowed and afraid.

[fergusrobson]

yes a rascist 'democratic party' these are mutually exclusive you know, you cannot claim that another race is inferior and also claim to be democratic it just doesn't work as democracy implies the recognition of all people as equal...also it doesn't seem to have annoyed many people in the crowd they obviously approved of disgusting rascist scum being beaten...so do i

[halfzwanger]

well, the US was a decomcracy and proclaimed itself to the the land of the free... while its citizens owned slaves, and there was segregation up to the 60s...

[zsvdkhnorc]

You confuse the principles of freedom and basic morality with the nature of democracy. A truly democratic system is little more than mob rule. If the majority votes to persecute the minority it is a democratic decision, albeit an evil one. Democracy alone does not guarantee freedom. A combination of constitutionalism and anti-majority republicanism is a more stable route than democracy.

[Vincederukker]

The "about this video" is very subjective and inacurate. Muslims are people too, and it's their very right to live here if they want to.

[ThomThomson]

Well that doesn't have much to do with the way the police gets on with the peacefull demonstration. By the way, we have allot of problems with Muslims, they can live here sure but need to integrate which they mostly don't. Integration isn't to much to ask from them is it ?

[Vincederukker]

Sure, but the thing is that if we see a muslim steal something for example, we conclude very fast that all muslims are bad, there are very nice muslims too! And yes, they have to integrate, but they don't have to give up their religion and stuff.

[ThomThomson]

But they can atleast give up some of their habbits, like those Burka things, my little nephew was crying seeing such a black lady at the bakery. And we don't need to change for them. Do you know that in Brussels, Police men or Government people can't eat or smoke in public no more during the Ramadan. It's like we are changing for them but they (read: allot) don't want to change at all.

[plattepatatten]

the majority of muslims are more integrated than walloons.. and many of the muslims in flanders are hardworking decent people, it's the ones in wallonia that go the less lagal route, same as many walloons because they have to, with your crappy economy'n all.

you walloons keep calling the flemish racists for wanting independence, the muslims scum for not integrating enough ,etc... it's always the fault of someone else, isn't it.

[plattepatatten]

look inwards, my dear wallonian friend, that's where the major faults lie. it is the walloons that have always profited from the flemish, looking down on their language & history (while we have rich history, the walloons have none) while never learning any other languages of belgium except their own... always demanding handouts, and with morethan half of all walloons working for the walloon government. what a socialist paradise... no wonder we flemish want out independence.

[plattepatatten]

lagal = legal...

[adrianrockero]

very well said

[Crowbarcode]

Is it true that Brussels city council consists of almost 50% muslim asylum seekers? Brussels are no longer a democracy, its home to the coward city mayor and his coward anti-democratic friends.