Does anyone know the formula he speaks of? Not saying as a doubter, I love Dr. Tyson and his works. Just was curious as to what it was, and I was really hoping he'd show it.
i guess the simplest way to find out is to use the formula F = G * m1 * m2 / r^2 and use your head's mass as m1 and the moon's mass as m2, then take the distance between your head (earth's surface) and put it as r.
G is the gravitational constant and is approximately 0.00000000006673
the result you should get is something around F = 0.00017 Newton.
that is a pull equal to the force of a weight of 0.017 grams ( or 0.000026 pounds) pushing on your head.
sorry, i meant the distance between your head (earth's surface) and the moon of course.. ^^
also the @-part above didn't fit anymore, so there is is =)
your results may vary depending on what exact numbers you take (make sure to use SI units tho, just saying =) but the result should still be a negligible number compared the the attractive force of earth (g =~ 9.81m/s^2 compared to a "moon-on-your-head-acceleration" of ~0.000034m/s^2)
Here's something for you guys...THE MOON IS ALWAYS TRAVELING AROUND THE EARTH! Sometimes we don't see it, but it is there, above us. And as far as I know, it is always full, never just a piece of it, even when we see it partially or not at all illuminated by the sun. So if there was any influence by the GRAVITY OF THE MOON, it would be felt every day or every night, depending of the cycle timing. You are welcome!
No the moon doesn't control the tides of the seas. It’s the gravity from the moon the pulls the water towards it as it orbits around the earth that causes the title fluctuations.
Increased crime rates during full moons are likely caused by the fact that the criminals can better see what they're doing when the moon is lighting things up that much better. Another good explanation would be confirmation bias.
@razzlefrog true comment.. but thats kinda stereotypical .. im a kid and im interested in this guy ; there are full adults interested in rappers and celebrities and probably not interested.. it all depends in the ACTUAL person just saying!
@razzlefrog Thing is alot of the stuff he says is sorta around the lines of "real common sense" IMO. The masses are retards. This is a reality I have accepted. This is one of the few real cats left on earth. We gotta stick together :P
The full moon doesn't even affect werewolves. That wasn't part of folklore until the movie THE WOLFMAN established it in 1941. Werewolves traditionally could transform whenever they wanted.
Sorry Neil, you're a great physicist, but human female pregnancy is not exactly your area. The normal human female gestation period is 38 weeks, or 266 days, which is 4 days short of 9 months. It is NOT 295 days, which is close to 10 months. Not even 1% of pregnancies are that long. Surprised at you dude. Usually you have your facts straight.
Neil said from the point of conception (not the date of missed period), which adds on about 2 weeks to the average gestation period of 280 days, working out to a grand total of around 295 days. (Also taking into account the fact that it takes 3 to 4 days for the sperm to reach the egg). Neil deGrasse Tyson is the man. He does his homework. And I'm so thankful I'm not a woman.
@dudev Do you understand what "gestation period" means? Apparently not. Gestation period, by definition, *IS* measured from the time of conception. The "missing the period" thing doesn't enter into it to begin with. Again: human gestation period is 266 days. That's it. Now you can jump through hoops and do backward summersaults to try and pad it out to 10 months, but it's bullshit. The fact is 266 days is an exact multiple of lunar cycles, but that multiple is 9, not 10. DeGrass slipped here.
Gestation period is often reported on two time scales. From time of conception or from time of missed period, depending on whether you're the doctor or the patient, respectfully. And the average in medical journals is reported as 40 weeks, with the healthy range being 37 to 42 weeks. (Source: National Institute of Health).
I think the full moon has some effects on our behavior. I mean, our ancestors would probably take advantage of the extra light of the full moon to do stuff (mate for example, and securing a place for woman during labor would be safer with better visibility) but thinking that some sort of phisical effect would be able to affect us in a perceivable way is a little too much.
I would go a step further than Dr Tyson and argue that it doesn't matter whether it is a full moon or not, the moon's mass does not change depending on our visual perspective of it.
Therefore the effect of its gravity, does not change depending on the proportion of the moons surface we can see, that is illuminated by the sun.
@slice22358 Yes this true, a very valid point. However to clarify I was referring to Lunar Phase. Where the moon is, in relation to the Sun as well as the Earth, rather than the moon's location in its orbit. For instance, when it's a full moon, the moon is not necessarily at the point in its orbit which is closest to Earth, and vice versa. Interestingly tonight, it is a full moon, and the moon's orbit position is at the closest point to Earth. An event that occurs only every two or three years.
@dude157 ah gotcha, and can I say how grateful I am to have received a well thought out, polite response instead of the usual storm of stupidity that usually comes when you question someone on youtube
@slice22358 You're welcome :-) I am glad you brought it up. Gave me the opportunity to clarify any discrepancies in my last post. I have found that, barring a few religious folk, trolling science topics, is not at the top of most peoples agenda !
It's so easy to debunk some of this stupid crap, that you can not only debunk it, you can make those believers look completely retarded at the same time.
@deedubya286 The Moon's gravity doesn't vary with its phase. Tidal effects on Earth's oceans are a combined effect of the gravitational influences of the Moon and the Sun. At full Moon, the Moon and the Sun are on opposite sides of the Earth. I believe this increases tidal effects.
@BruceK10032 I think the tidal effects are enhanced during a new moon when the sun and moon are on the same side and the gravity is additive but I'm not sure.
Here's one; I live in a farming community where everyone swears that you are more likely to get cold temperatures on a night with a full moon. I can't see the connection.
@deedubya286 "When the sun, moon, and the earth are lined up, the sun and moon are exerting their strongest force together and tidal ranges are at their maximum. This is known as spring tide (spring tides are not named from the season but from 'spring forward') This occurs twice each month, when the moon is full and new."
@St00sh13 True enough, but people aren't as worried about a clear night when the moon isn't full. In the fall when it starts getting colder at night people will actually worry about when the next full moon is due, not just the next clear night.
@deedubya286 Many believers in astrology attempt to argue--when they want to come up with some pseudoscientific justification for astrology--that the graviational effects of the various planets affect our behavior, and even our personality. This doesn't work at all. For example, Jupiter is always there, whether it's over your head or under your feet.
@deedubya286 Astrology doesn't take into account which way you are facing. If Jupiter's position in the sky at the time of your birth were to influence your personality, wouldn't it matter whether you were facing toward it or away from it--whether it were on your left or your right? And to claim it influences your life today--because it's so close, or because it's in Pisces, omits the question of where it is in relation to your body. It's under my feet now, last night it was over my head.
That doesn't add up at all seeing as the 280 days is counting the 2 weeks *before* you get pregnant! Atleast that's what I've learned; 40 weeks counting from the first day of the last menstrual period. In reality a woman is pregnant for about 38 weeks/266 days.
I'm honestly a bit puzzled as to how he came to the conclution we should add another 2 weeks to the 2 weeks already added.
Come to think about it, I think (even a genious might be erronious from time to time) he meant to pull 14 days from the 280, not add them. The result would be the same - only you'd hit the full moon a month earlier :)
that's where you are mistaken, the 280 days doesn't include the 2 weeks. that is what i was always told as well, however i checked this out because of your comment and tyson is correct it is 280 days from the first fist period which is when women usually find out they are pregnant. but that is not the date of conception. 2 weeks is the average time in between the 4 week cycle in which they had sex and got pregnant. he is going from the estimated date of conception.
I have read a lot of sources from my books at home and on the internet. Even wiki states; 40 weeks counting from the first day of the last menstrual period.
and right after that line in wiki, it says the WHO lists it as 37 to 42 weeks. maybe he was going by the WHO. possibly he was wrong, but from what i read they go from the date of first missed menstrual cycle.
I am aware of what the WHO says. But we were talking about the statement "280 days is wrong" vs. "295 is right", right? :) Had he said 266 days, he still could have made the same point, and a good one at that. People look for patterns and reasons and overlook the most basic stuff.
well, apparently, i read the same books as tyson, because i find pretty much every source says 280 days from the missed menstrual cycle. so the average time from the last complete menstrual cycle adds about 2 weeks.
if you really care that much e-mail dr tyson and let us know.
Ok i love this guy but i thought the gestation period was 280 days not 295. Being 295 at an average of 29.5 makes 10 months which feels too long. Am i being a complete idiot with these calculations. I feel i could be missing something
your not being an idiot. he is going from the actual date of conception. the average time of gestation is approximated at 40 AFTER the first missed period. tyson is including the two weeks (on average, the time between the biging and end of menstruation cycles) that the woman would be pregnant and not know it.
Wolves hunt more often near (not just at) full moon because there's more light. In ancient times when people had to travel at night it was easier near & at full moon. More light - easier to see. More travel = more robbery; more light = more wolves & crazy people sighting. So that's how the stories about the effect of full moon were born. Modern people don't seem to notice that some nights are lighter (full moon) & some darker (new moon) thanks to electricity.
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Scientific Observation. I worked 20 years charting behavior of many patients., (and non-patients) I was there in the trenches observing as objectivly as possible. There is no question. The Full Moon would hit like a ton of bricks. There would be this calmess before the storm. ALWAYS.. There are other cycles that alter the basic cycles.
Deniers would be the first to be effected.
I remember so many Full Moon, with beds of tied up patients with kunacy tension in the air.
Niels passionate attempt to dispel misconceptions and erroneous belief, but I thinbk a more earnest , diplomatic style would be less inflammatory. I have never found derogatory polemic effective as a tactic.
settle down, he's obviously trying to make science entertaining and comedic by making fun of stupid people. and tone it down with the thesaurus usage... this is youtube, not an analytical essay.
I would say the same to you as I would to him, to try not to be so harsh. Eloquent use of the english language is a sign of intellectual capacity that you seem to value, so I dont understand why you are telling me not to use words that I feel best express my thoughts. In any case, I dont see how calling people stupid is an effective way to educate them. In my experience this tactic tends to make them defensive.
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I am sorry, I dont share your view. I dont think that insulting people because they have been mis or disinformed is funny. I dont think that he is making science more interesting.. science needs no help in this regard, and you can find non-offensive ways of making people laugh when presenting theoretical science. Sometimes scientists have gotten into trouble by maintaining biased points of veiw with a show of absolute certainty. Diplomacy is actually a more scientific negotiating posture.
i did not hear him say anything insulting. i think if dont approve of his methods in this video you should consider the audience he is talking to. tyson is a briliant man who is sensitive to people with diferent ideas about their enviornment. however, it is my opinion that it isnt mandatory that we respect others beliefs. would u respect a grown adults belief that santa delievers toys? i would show this person respect, but i would laugh at that belief.
He's not insulting people by pointing out their miss informed. He's pointing out how humans naturally draw conclusions to things that seem to relate on the surface, but actually have no relation at all. I know it may no seem like that in this clip, but if you watch a bunch of his vids or read his works its more apparent.
It's not the moon. You're just noticeing them going crazy MORE on a full moon (when its not you're probably not paying attention to their behavior as much). The moon doesn't make things act crazy. Cats just tend to do that once in a while.
Amazing Meeting, eh? I'll tell you what's amazing...the fact that with a room full of scientific geniuses, there was no one who could make sure that the sound was not AMAZINGLY awful. :P
@nonsuchfabio Yea, but just imagine if he would let superstition die instead of resurrecting it in order to fight it. Imagine if he were to take educating people a little more seriously. Take this video, for example. A lot of people don't know the details behind why there are tides. Imagine if you could find a youtube video of Neil DeGrasse Tyson explaining to people how tides work. You can't. All he does is resurrect superstition in order to make fun of it. He is no educator...
@tpstrat14 Are you serious? Confirmation bias running rampant here, I would posit the vast majority of Tyson's public media is educational and has nothing to do with debunking the supernatural. To make the statement you made based on candid moments with Tyson caught on film is just tunnel vision. All he does? Seriously? Have you never watched his programming on PBS, this critique is unwarranted and ridiculous.
Anything supernatural is outside of our mutually shared natural reality and being outside of the natural reality it can not affect anything contained in it. If it was able to affect something with in the natural reality then the supernatural object would not be considered supernatural it would be classified as natural. If something is supernatural it’s not relative to this reality so debunking the supernatural is a "catch twenty-two."
@ttopperr Um. Yeah, sure. Keep validating your personal intuition, I had no comment at all on the validity of the supernatural. I think it's amusing you have the arrogance to pass off your personal ideas as fact however. The catch 22 is you're creating a paradox just to pretend the world conforms to your desires.
It’s not my personal idea but a fact of science if you want to believe in your way of thinking then it is your loss to the facts of reality. Please study more science instead of just making bad assumptions.
@tpstrat14 What a dour outlook! The man has piqued the interest of so many children in science. I took two 9 year-old skeptics to one of his lectures and they came away fired. Where do you get off declaring he's "no educator" because of his style? What qualifies you to do this?
There are some statistics that show higher crime rates around the full moon, BUT these are also explained away quite effectively by the fact that more light means more people on the streets and more opportunities for the crimes that increase (muggings expecially). As usual, the explanantion is not woowoo but perfectly reasonable if one applies a little brain-power to the subject.
I always wondered why people would think the moon has more gravitational force just because we can see more of the light that's shining on it. The moon doesn't get bigger when it's full.
lehman: EACTLY. The phase of the moon is in no way related to its gravitational effect on us. It's distance varies cyclically, but does not correspond to the cycle of its phases.
@Mahoivlich Um, the tidal force IS an effect of gravity, so I'm not sure how it can "overcome the effects of gravity". Tidal forces occur because gravitational forces from one object aren't constant across another object.
You're on the internet - if you're really interested then look it up.
@Mahoivlich The centrifugal force is a fictitious force and has no effect on the tides.
The moon and sun's gravitational fields vary in strength and direction over the earth. Tides are caused by the variation of gravitational forces over the earth (including the earth's own gravitational field). Small body of water = negligible variation in gravitational forces = no tide.
man, Sinbad be killin it
courtesyclerk 2 weeks ago
The moon has caused some Saiyans to transform into their Great Ape form and has been destroyed two times and revived one time.
hdzsound 3 weeks ago 3
What about werewolves?
kaduisaui 2 months ago
Might as well be an evolutionary advantage in giving birth on a full moon where visibility is higher.
Melancolia793 2 months ago
Does anyone know the formula he speaks of? Not saying as a doubter, I love Dr. Tyson and his works. Just was curious as to what it was, and I was really hoping he'd show it.
adiamondfordisease 2 months ago
i guess the simplest way to find out is to use the formula F = G * m1 * m2 / r^2 and use your head's mass as m1 and the moon's mass as m2, then take the distance between your head (earth's surface) and put it as r.
G is the gravitational constant and is approximately 0.00000000006673
the result you should get is something around F = 0.00017 Newton.
that is a pull equal to the force of a weight of 0.017 grams ( or 0.000026 pounds) pushing on your head.
sue me if i made an mistake ^^
RufftaMan 2 months ago
@adiamondfordisease
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sorry, i meant the distance between your head (earth's surface) and the moon of course.. ^^
also the @-part above didn't fit anymore, so there is is =)
your results may vary depending on what exact numbers you take (make sure to use SI units tho, just saying =) but the result should still be a negligible number compared the the attractive force of earth (g =~ 9.81m/s^2 compared to a "moon-on-your-head-acceleration" of ~0.000034m/s^2)
RufftaMan 2 months ago
"I told you this was brain droppings. I had warned you in advance." :)
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wgfcrafty 5 months ago
I simply love Mr. Tyson. Always hilarious always logical.
brewerbrian420 5 months ago
Here's something for you guys...THE MOON IS ALWAYS TRAVELING AROUND THE EARTH! Sometimes we don't see it, but it is there, above us. And as far as I know, it is always full, never just a piece of it, even when we see it partially or not at all illuminated by the sun. So if there was any influence by the GRAVITY OF THE MOON, it would be felt every day or every night, depending of the cycle timing. You are welcome!
CoolEuro 5 months ago
@CoolEuro yeah, doesnt the moon control the tides of the sea?
lisn92 5 months ago
@lisn92
No the moon doesn't control the tides of the seas. It’s the gravity from the moon the pulls the water towards it as it orbits around the earth that causes the title fluctuations.
ttopperr 4 months ago
Increased crime rates during full moons are likely caused by the fact that the criminals can better see what they're doing when the moon is lighting things up that much better. Another good explanation would be confirmation bias.
cyphonyx 5 months ago
So the best way to get laid is to take a female to the moon, right? Tell Nasa to let me borrow the shuttle for a few days.
Ramel34 6 months ago 2
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Ramel34 6 months ago
He is SUCH a good role model! I wish kids were less interested in rappers and professional celebrities and really got into this guy.
razzlefrog 6 months ago 63
@razzlefrog
im 12 years old and i like this guy more than any rapper or celebrity
CPmasterxxxxxx 1 month ago
@CPmasterxxxxxx and?
Lauxesa 1 month ago
@razzlefrog Eh, I believe you can have both, Micthemicrophonezero's work is pretty tight.
GregTess 1 month ago
@razzlefrog true comment.. but thats kinda stereotypical .. im a kid and im interested in this guy ; there are full adults interested in rappers and celebrities and probably not interested.. it all depends in the ACTUAL person just saying!
JamesWest1994 1 month ago
@razzlefrog Nothing wrong with being interested in rappers and celebrities.
Nat4Brendan 3 weeks ago
@razzlefrog Thing is alot of the stuff he says is sorta around the lines of "real common sense" IMO. The masses are retards. This is a reality I have accepted. This is one of the few real cats left on earth. We gotta stick together :P
BlazinBlack109 1 week ago
Def Jam Science.
I like this guy.
Yallniggasbetrollin 6 months ago
I love you, Neil.
DarthGarz 6 months ago 2
So stoked to see Neil next week at TAM 9!!!!!
GodlessMorality 6 months ago
The full moon doesn't even affect werewolves. That wasn't part of folklore until the movie THE WOLFMAN established it in 1941. Werewolves traditionally could transform whenever they wanted.
GoblinXXX 7 months ago
Neil deGrasse Tyson is just too awesome.
mrmelkor1 8 months ago
Sorry Neil, you're a great physicist, but human female pregnancy is not exactly your area. The normal human female gestation period is 38 weeks, or 266 days, which is 4 days short of 9 months. It is NOT 295 days, which is close to 10 months. Not even 1% of pregnancies are that long. Surprised at you dude. Usually you have your facts straight.
kossmikham 9 months ago
@kossmikham
Neil said from the point of conception (not the date of missed period), which adds on about 2 weeks to the average gestation period of 280 days, working out to a grand total of around 295 days. (Also taking into account the fact that it takes 3 to 4 days for the sperm to reach the egg). Neil deGrasse Tyson is the man. He does his homework. And I'm so thankful I'm not a woman.
dudev 9 months ago
@dudev Do you understand what "gestation period" means? Apparently not. Gestation period, by definition, *IS* measured from the time of conception. The "missing the period" thing doesn't enter into it to begin with. Again: human gestation period is 266 days. That's it. Now you can jump through hoops and do backward summersaults to try and pad it out to 10 months, but it's bullshit. The fact is 266 days is an exact multiple of lunar cycles, but that multiple is 9, not 10. DeGrass slipped here.
kossmikham 9 months ago
@kossmikham
Gestation period is often reported on two time scales. From time of conception or from time of missed period, depending on whether you're the doctor or the patient, respectfully. And the average in medical journals is reported as 40 weeks, with the healthy range being 37 to 42 weeks. (Source: National Institute of Health).
dudev 9 months ago 2
@dudev
Oops, meant to say "respectively."
dudev 9 months ago
Nope it's the stork who yanks the baby out
TheDano1947 10 months ago
@TheDano1947 Don't be ridiculous. Everyone knows he puts the baby IN there! (Stork Theory: Teach the controversy!) ;)
GoblinXXX 7 months ago
How can you trust a man who stole our Pluto? :) j/k very good speaker and smart guy.
Qermaq 10 months ago 2
TYSON FOR PRESIDENT
DukeNukemIsHere3 10 months ago
He should be a stand up comedian instead of a physicist.
rockerojuan 10 months ago
I think the full moon has some effects on our behavior. I mean, our ancestors would probably take advantage of the extra light of the full moon to do stuff (mate for example, and securing a place for woman during labor would be safer with better visibility) but thinking that some sort of phisical effect would be able to affect us in a perceivable way is a little too much.
DarkZholt 10 months ago
It's all just...lunacy
ViperRob42 10 months ago
I vote Mr. Tyson for President of the earth
pandapalace11 1 year ago 89
I would go a step further than Dr Tyson and argue that it doesn't matter whether it is a full moon or not, the moon's mass does not change depending on our visual perspective of it.
Therefore the effect of its gravity, does not change depending on the proportion of the moons surface we can see, that is illuminated by the sun.
dude157 1 year ago
@dude157 the mass doesn't change, but the distance does, and so the gravitational effect is different, albeit very slightly.
slice22358 10 months ago
@slice22358 Yes this true, a very valid point. However to clarify I was referring to Lunar Phase. Where the moon is, in relation to the Sun as well as the Earth, rather than the moon's location in its orbit. For instance, when it's a full moon, the moon is not necessarily at the point in its orbit which is closest to Earth, and vice versa. Interestingly tonight, it is a full moon, and the moon's orbit position is at the closest point to Earth. An event that occurs only every two or three years.
dude157 10 months ago
@dude157 ah gotcha, and can I say how grateful I am to have received a well thought out, polite response instead of the usual storm of stupidity that usually comes when you question someone on youtube
slice22358 10 months ago
@slice22358 You're welcome :-) I am glad you brought it up. Gave me the opportunity to clarify any discrepancies in my last post. I have found that, barring a few religious folk, trolling science topics, is not at the top of most peoples agenda !
dude157 10 months ago
"Brain-Droppings"
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
khabaznak 1 year ago
if they where to ever make a movie about neil..terrance howard could play him
maldoman23 1 year ago
He kills me everytime, I just love this guy!
geckotwister 1 year ago 2
The NASA Night Sky Network is listening to Neil deGrasse Tyson! Happy Autumn or Spring, depending on which hemisphere you are in :)
NightSkyNetwork 1 year ago
Until science teachers are at least half as compelling as Neil Tyson, the world will continue to roll right past us.
kinsmed 1 year ago 2
my boy was born on a lunar eclipse. right in the thick of it.
bluefirekey 1 year ago
It's so easy to debunk some of this stupid crap, that you can not only debunk it, you can make those believers look completely retarded at the same time.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago 2
Aren't the tidal effects of the moon the same whether it's full or not?
deedubya286 1 year ago 3
@deedubya286 The Moon's gravity doesn't vary with its phase. Tidal effects on Earth's oceans are a combined effect of the gravitational influences of the Moon and the Sun. At full Moon, the Moon and the Sun are on opposite sides of the Earth. I believe this increases tidal effects.
BruceK10032 1 year ago
@BruceK10032 I think the tidal effects are enhanced during a new moon when the sun and moon are on the same side and the gravity is additive but I'm not sure.
Here's one; I live in a farming community where everyone swears that you are more likely to get cold temperatures on a night with a full moon. I can't see the connection.
Ever heard of this?
deedubya286 1 year ago
@deedubya286 "When the sun, moon, and the earth are lined up, the sun and moon are exerting their strongest force together and tidal ranges are at their maximum. This is known as spring tide (spring tides are not named from the season but from 'spring forward') This occurs twice each month, when the moon is full and new."
BruceK10032 1 year ago
That was taken from geography.about.com/od/physicalgeography/a/tides.htm
BruceK10032 1 year ago
@deedubya286 Isn't it more likely that you only see a full moon when there are no clouds. No clouds = colder night!
St00sh13 1 year ago
@St00sh13 True enough, but people aren't as worried about a clear night when the moon isn't full. In the fall when it starts getting colder at night people will actually worry about when the next full moon is due, not just the next clear night.
deedubya286 1 year ago
@deedubya286 Many believers in astrology attempt to argue--when they want to come up with some pseudoscientific justification for astrology--that the graviational effects of the various planets affect our behavior, and even our personality. This doesn't work at all. For example, Jupiter is always there, whether it's over your head or under your feet.
BruceK10032 1 year ago
@deedubya286 Astrology doesn't take into account which way you are facing. If Jupiter's position in the sky at the time of your birth were to influence your personality, wouldn't it matter whether you were facing toward it or away from it--whether it were on your left or your right? And to claim it influences your life today--because it's so close, or because it's in Pisces, omits the question of where it is in relation to your body. It's under my feet now, last night it was over my head.
BruceK10032 1 year ago
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@rns13
That doesn't add up at all seeing as the 280 days is counting the 2 weeks *before* you get pregnant! Atleast that's what I've learned; 40 weeks counting from the first day of the last menstrual period. In reality a woman is pregnant for about 38 weeks/266 days.
I'm honestly a bit puzzled as to how he came to the conclution we should add another 2 weeks to the 2 weeks already added.
theoldbat40 1 year ago
@theoldbat40
Come to think about it, I think (even a genious might be erronious from time to time) he meant to pull 14 days from the 280, not add them. The result would be the same - only you'd hit the full moon a month earlier :)
theoldbat40 1 year ago
@theoldbat40
that's where you are mistaken, the 280 days doesn't include the 2 weeks. that is what i was always told as well, however i checked this out because of your comment and tyson is correct it is 280 days from the first fist period which is when women usually find out they are pregnant. but that is not the date of conception. 2 weeks is the average time in between the 4 week cycle in which they had sex and got pregnant. he is going from the estimated date of conception.
rns13 1 year ago
@rns13
I have read a lot of sources from my books at home and on the internet. Even wiki states; 40 weeks counting from the first day of the last menstrual period.
In other words; 38 weeks is the real pregnancy.
theoldbat40 1 year ago
@theoldbat40
and right after that line in wiki, it says the WHO lists it as 37 to 42 weeks. maybe he was going by the WHO. possibly he was wrong, but from what i read they go from the date of first missed menstrual cycle.
rns13 1 year ago
@rns13
I am aware of what the WHO says. But we were talking about the statement "280 days is wrong" vs. "295 is right", right? :) Had he said 266 days, he still could have made the same point, and a good one at that. People look for patterns and reasons and overlook the most basic stuff.
theoldbat40 1 year ago
@theoldbat40
well, apparently, i read the same books as tyson, because i find pretty much every source says 280 days from the missed menstrual cycle. so the average time from the last complete menstrual cycle adds about 2 weeks.
if you really care that much e-mail dr tyson and let us know.
rns13 1 year ago
Ok i love this guy but i thought the gestation period was 280 days not 295. Being 295 at an average of 29.5 makes 10 months which feels too long. Am i being a complete idiot with these calculations. I feel i could be missing something
Clarkyguy 1 year ago
@Clarkyguy
your not being an idiot. he is going from the actual date of conception. the average time of gestation is approximated at 40 AFTER the first missed period. tyson is including the two weeks (on average, the time between the biging and end of menstruation cycles) that the woman would be pregnant and not know it.
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theoldbat40 1 year ago
Stand Up Science!!!!!
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luarionte 1 year ago 12
Hilarious and awesome.
VideoMikael 1 year ago
Wolves hunt more often near (not just at) full moon because there's more light. In ancient times when people had to travel at night it was easier near & at full moon. More light - easier to see. More travel = more robbery; more light = more wolves & crazy people sighting. So that's how the stories about the effect of full moon were born. Modern people don't seem to notice that some nights are lighter (full moon) & some darker (new moon) thanks to electricity.
UserNr001 1 year ago 4
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I find that "Full Moon effect deniers" are themselves, all lunatics.
rialcnis 2 years ago
And where did you come up with that?
Vinny0151 2 years ago
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Scientific Observation. I worked 20 years charting behavior of many patients., (and non-patients) I was there in the trenches observing as objectivly as possible. There is no question. The Full Moon would hit like a ton of bricks. There would be this calmess before the storm. ALWAYS.. There are other cycles that alter the basic cycles.
Deniers would be the first to be effected.
I remember so many Full Moon, with beds of tied up patients with kunacy tension in the air.
rialcnis 2 years ago
Niels passionate attempt to dispel misconceptions and erroneous belief, but I thinbk a more earnest , diplomatic style would be less inflammatory. I have never found derogatory polemic effective as a tactic.
mongolelf 2 years ago
settle down, he's obviously trying to make science entertaining and comedic by making fun of stupid people. and tone it down with the thesaurus usage... this is youtube, not an analytical essay.
aznxkigga 2 years ago 8
I would say the same to you as I would to him, to try not to be so harsh. Eloquent use of the english language is a sign of intellectual capacity that you seem to value, so I dont understand why you are telling me not to use words that I feel best express my thoughts. In any case, I dont see how calling people stupid is an effective way to educate them. In my experience this tactic tends to make them defensive.
mongolelf 2 years ago
stop being such a downer. he's trying to make science entertaining so that the masses might just take interest. its a good thing, my friend.
defstoner18 2 years ago 7
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I am sorry, I dont share your view. I dont think that insulting people because they have been mis or disinformed is funny. I dont think that he is making science more interesting.. science needs no help in this regard, and you can find non-offensive ways of making people laugh when presenting theoretical science. Sometimes scientists have gotten into trouble by maintaining biased points of veiw with a show of absolute certainty. Diplomacy is actually a more scientific negotiating posture.
mongolelf 2 years ago
i did not hear him say anything insulting. i think if dont approve of his methods in this video you should consider the audience he is talking to. tyson is a briliant man who is sensitive to people with diferent ideas about their enviornment. however, it is my opinion that it isnt mandatory that we respect others beliefs. would u respect a grown adults belief that santa delievers toys? i would show this person respect, but i would laugh at that belief.
thegdin 2 years ago 5
He's not insulting people by pointing out their miss informed. He's pointing out how humans naturally draw conclusions to things that seem to relate on the surface, but actually have no relation at all. I know it may no seem like that in this clip, but if you watch a bunch of his vids or read his works its more apparent.
AUTOBLOOD 2 years ago 8
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calling someone "stupid" is not my idea of diplomacy
mongolelf 2 years ago
i agree, if he just sat there and talked all boring and stuff, i wouldnt be as excited to watch him talk about science lol
rickiex 2 years ago
My cats do tend to go nuts during a full moon. They run all over the place and are very wild.
MrKevMan 2 years ago
It's not the moon. You're just noticeing them going crazy MORE on a full moon (when its not you're probably not paying attention to their behavior as much). The moon doesn't make things act crazy. Cats just tend to do that once in a while.
visceralgristle 2 years ago 2
Actually its because of the extra light and clear atmosphere that they really get off on.
MrKevMan 2 years ago 2
Scientific stand up comedy... Amazing!
dp100eboggan 2 years ago 205
Neil deGrasse Tyson is so funny and logical.
ReneeNme 2 years ago 8
Amazing Meeting, eh? I'll tell you what's amazing...the fact that with a room full of scientific geniuses, there was no one who could make sure that the sound was not AMAZINGLY awful. :P
kevinprov 2 years ago 18
The government is putting fluoride in the water supply...
generaleskimo 2 years ago 5
Have you ever seen a Ruskie drink anything but vodka?
Roxinos 2 years ago 6
YOUR RIGHT! ITS A CONSPIRACY!
And wtf to everyone who is downthumbing my comment? I'm not crazy, its a joke.
generaleskimo 2 years ago
People just don't get the reference.
Roxinos 2 years ago
"Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face."
-General Jack D. Ripper from "Dr. Strangelove"
Harvey2face123 2 years ago 5
Neil is terrific. I hope he has a long career educating the public. He's a great candidate to fill the void left by Carl Sagan.
nonsuchfabio 2 years ago 141
You're not the only one to think that. ;-)
SaganAppreciationSoc 2 years ago 3
Absolutely right.
FlexibleElf 2 years ago 3
I'd give you fifty thumbs up on that comment if I could nonsuchfabio.
ReneeNme 2 years ago 3
@nonsuchfabio I totally Agree
TheDarkSagan 1 year ago
@nonsuchfabio My Father's generation had Carl Sagan. Mine has Neil degrasse Tyson. But I still absolutely adore Carl Sagan.
JoNnYShizzle 1 year ago
@nonsuchfabio i completely agree Tyson has Sagan's enthusiasm ..
duhhh187 11 months ago
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"He's a great candidate to fill the void left by Carl Sagan."
Sagan had a nicer voice, though, I think.
MomoTheBellyDancer 5 months ago
@nonsuchfabio Yea, but just imagine if he would let superstition die instead of resurrecting it in order to fight it. Imagine if he were to take educating people a little more seriously. Take this video, for example. A lot of people don't know the details behind why there are tides. Imagine if you could find a youtube video of Neil DeGrasse Tyson explaining to people how tides work. You can't. All he does is resurrect superstition in order to make fun of it. He is no educator...
tpstrat14 5 months ago
@tpstrat14 Are you serious? Confirmation bias running rampant here, I would posit the vast majority of Tyson's public media is educational and has nothing to do with debunking the supernatural. To make the statement you made based on candid moments with Tyson caught on film is just tunnel vision. All he does? Seriously? Have you never watched his programming on PBS, this critique is unwarranted and ridiculous.
evilyig 5 months ago
@evilyig
Anything supernatural is outside of our mutually shared natural reality and being outside of the natural reality it can not affect anything contained in it. If it was able to affect something with in the natural reality then the supernatural object would not be considered supernatural it would be classified as natural. If something is supernatural it’s not relative to this reality so debunking the supernatural is a "catch twenty-two."
ttopperr 4 months ago
@ttopperr Um. Yeah, sure. Keep validating your personal intuition, I had no comment at all on the validity of the supernatural. I think it's amusing you have the arrogance to pass off your personal ideas as fact however. The catch 22 is you're creating a paradox just to pretend the world conforms to your desires.
evilyig 4 months ago
@evilyig
It’s not my personal idea but a fact of science if you want to believe in your way of thinking then it is your loss to the facts of reality. Please study more science instead of just making bad assumptions.
ttopperr 4 months ago
@tpstrat14 What a dour outlook! The man has piqued the interest of so many children in science. I took two 9 year-old skeptics to one of his lectures and they came away fired. Where do you get off declaring he's "no educator" because of his style? What qualifies you to do this?
kadene2 4 months ago
Me three.
Clausfarre 2 years ago 5
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO WISHES TO SEE THE FULL UNCUT VIDEO? Please?
I do not see it on the official site and these snippets are superb, yet I want to see the entire, cogent speech that Neil deGrasse Tyson is giving!
If there is a link to the full, uncut video, please let me know!
Love these talks! ^_^
fallingstarblues 2 years ago 16
I look for the same, if you found what you were looking for let me know please :)
TurboDally 2 years ago 4
There are some statistics that show higher crime rates around the full moon, BUT these are also explained away quite effectively by the fact that more light means more people on the streets and more opportunities for the crimes that increase (muggings expecially). As usual, the explanantion is not woowoo but perfectly reasonable if one applies a little brain-power to the subject.
BadgerRavenmoon 2 years ago 3
I always wondered why people would think the moon has more gravitational force just because we can see more of the light that's shining on it. The moon doesn't get bigger when it's full.
closedmouth 2 years ago 3
Just to make a note, there is no connection between a full moon and its distance to the earth.
lehman 2 years ago 6
lehman: EACTLY. The phase of the moon is in no way related to its gravitational effect on us. It's distance varies cyclically, but does not correspond to the cycle of its phases.
hairyreasoner 2 years ago 3
if the tidal force is so low how can it overcome the effects of gravity?....just wondering
Mahoivlich 2 years ago
@Mahoivlich Um, the tidal force IS an effect of gravity, so I'm not sure how it can "overcome the effects of gravity". Tidal forces occur because gravitational forces from one object aren't constant across another object.
You're on the internet - if you're really interested then look it up.
dave28lax 2 years ago
The tidal force is the centrifugal force plus the gravity of the moon.
None of the pages explain the difference of these forces on the oceans vs small amounts of water.
Mahoivlich 2 years ago
@Mahoivlich The centrifugal force is a fictitious force and has no effect on the tides.
The moon and sun's gravitational fields vary in strength and direction over the earth. Tides are caused by the variation of gravitational forces over the earth (including the earth's own gravitational field). Small body of water = negligible variation in gravitational forces = no tide.
End of physics lesson.
dave28lax 2 years ago
Yeah.
Skepticism can be fun, too!
lovasip 2 years ago 4
I can't help but feel I'm watching stand-up comedy. :)
Itslvle 2 years ago 12
Same here!
hatemeproductions 2 years ago 5
Yeah, I'm glad he's funny.. maybe he'll reach more people that way. He's proof that the real truth is usually funnier than fiction. ;)
siciliano29 2 years ago 6
I've said before Neil should do stand-up.
TomMSTie 2 years ago