i'd make exsotic pet trade of endangered species illegal. if you truly love a wild animal, you'll live it in the wild, that's where they should be.
btw, i gave this channel a shoutout to one of my youtube friends, hopefully he will subscribe, i want you guys to have as much support as possible, since you help the best animal species on earth :D
SOME servals may be treated nicely, but MOST aren't. Guys, Big Cat Rescue is not only educated by knowledge, but by experience. They have seen situations that would make most of you faint, cry, or vomit. They deal with this EVERY DAY! So stop talking to them like they know nothing... I was raised in an Arizona wildlife rescue... guess who got called when their sweet bobcat mauled the dog .
I think you guys forget that Big Cat Rescue is one of the country's most respected Exotic Cat rescue! They have seen things... experianced things most of you would faint, cry or vomit over. They are educated and have heavy experience... some servals lead a good life... but MOST don't
@newfful Yes, they're called Savannah cats, as you say breeders sell these for huge sums of money and many of them become unwanted because they don't make good pets.
@BigCatRescue Again, incorrect. I don't think you kn0w the first thing about Savannahs; hopefully you're more informed on big cats. I've now adopted two Savannahs, an F2 and an F4. They do not "pee all over the house," they're fastidious in their litterbox habits. They're not vicious. One's sleeping in my lap right now, exhausted after romping through the house with my 9-year old niece. I've trained them to sit on command-they got it in 10 minutes--and we're working on shaking hands.
@cynmorganica There are exceptions to the rule, but all the savannah cats we have dealt with, be it rescues or helping to place unwanted cats have been unsuitable as pets because there wild instincts remain. Have you ever wondered what happens to all these unwanted savannah cats? These cats that are bred to make money and just because people want "something different"...
You're arrogant, and I suspect you lie. You think you know more about cats than these people b/c you've owned some exotic animals for a few months? Get real. Also, I really doubt that you taught any sort of cat to sit on command in ten minutes, let alone one that is half wild.
Because people do not know how to treat their cats doesn't mean you should say they make bad pets.
If they made bad pets, they wouldn't be expensive? Who wants to pay a substantial sum of money for something they're going to end up giving up? I can see conflict with raising a Lion or a Tiger, but a Savannah? They are bred to be domestic animals, for the demand you claim is 'wrong.'
@Alan17042 You can buy a sundae for $1000. Cost doesn't equate to value.....and value is subjective. Sometimes it's just a status thing. Besides, no matter how much you spend on something, if it does turn out to be a threat...why would you keep it? If you spent $1000 on a golden toilet seat and it made your backside bleed...is it worth keeping?
A serval is not a domestic cat and it's being forced to breed, and even if the Savannah is part domestic, the other part is a gamble.
the savannah cat - hybrid of serval and domestic cat - is beautiful and is sold as an expensive pet to cat fanciers. according to you this is wrong. but they do it and they have customers. doesn't that prove that there is a demand for these wonderful animals.
@BigCatRescue Check facts BEFORE you post-you're wrong. 1)Don't confuse serval&Savannah; genetically, Savannahs are domestic, not wild. 2)Savannahs good, very intelligent pets-the 60+ I've met were better behaved than many DSH. 3)Agree about stopping exotic trade, but of all smallcats, servals/cheetahs have the longest history of domestication..and of breeding with domestic cats in the wild, so there is a precedent. 4)Savannahs usually cost a fraction of $20K and unwanted ones are rare.
@cynmorganica I've never heard of a cheetah breeding with a domestic cat!??? All we do is check and stay up to date on the abuses cats are facing and unfortunately what we post is the truth.
@BigCatRescue Interesting that you haven't rebutted my main points. SAYING "what we post is the truth" doesn't matter if you can't back it up with fact. Which you haven't. So...Savannahs aren't wild, they make good (and incredibly intelligent pets), and they're rarely as expensive and almost never as unwanted as you've claimed. And yes, servals have frequently mated with domestic cats in the wild. Look it up. So nope, you don't post truth. Your aims are probably good, your arguments aren't.
Sorry but I, lived and worked in Africa for many years among great animals and people but my question is, why is it always Americans who feel the need to buy "exotic" pets (ie taken out of their natural habitat in an attempt to domesticate them?). Not trying to be offensive, just absolutely stunned at the mentality. Why not go and rescue a kitten and let wild animals be wild?
@gnarkillkicksass Congrats for your claims of living and working in Africa. I am South African and in most of Africa the medium to small sized animals have been kept as pets for hundreds of years. Cheetahs, Servals, Meerkats, all kinds of primates, and so on. Your ignorance really points to the fact that you have not actually been to the countries you claim to have lived in as the wildlife problems there are so many that North America wouldn't feature on any list of priorities.
I don't support the exotic pet trade for the reasons mentioned here and in the video. Most people want them just for the "exotic" tag NOTHING ELSE. I rescue reptiles mostly snakes for that EXACT reason. People get an animal thinking "Awww how cute!" Not realizing the price to properly care for them, how their attitude will change as the mature from a playful 'kitten' to a full on powerful adult cat. Some people are just stupid and thankfully BigCatRescue is here to cover their dumbass.
Seriously. What you guys are doing is close to propaganda, and you're hypocrites. If you say you want to drive yourselves out of business, why do you tell everyone it's impossible to care for a serval, and that they should remain wild? Servals are some of the most affectionate and playful cats I've ever seen and make wonderful companions, yet you are on a crusade to ensure nobody can ever enjoy this amazing creation of God. Elitist pricks.
@Nocturnae80 "why do you tell everyone it's impossible to care for a serval, and that they should remain wild" Becuase these are wild cats that deserve much more than to live their lives in backyards and basements, we have over 20 servals at BCR that were all former "pets" that people no longer wanted or could no longer care for.
@Nocturnae80 If the serval had the choice of being wild and free vs someones fancy 'pet' kitty. What do you think it would choose? You should honestly put yourself in the animals place. Just cause it's cute and cuddly doesn't mean it makes a good pet, in fact if it was repulsive no one would want it. But a wild animal is a wild animal, it belongs with it's own kind doing what it is naturally born to do. Being a serval.
the servals are hissing because they were probably abused by the people u rescued them from its good that u are rescuing these animals because it is hard to care for a serval unless u are trained my savannah is the best cat ever he is curios and only nips u when he wants to play and the servals are hissing becaused they are enclosed and abused by their previous owners hence rescue servals also like to play just like all cats play even lions and tigers play u have to play with a serval or else
I have domesticated cats myself and I know the difference of all the communicative sounds. A hiss IS a WARNING, not a greeting, if a wild or domesticated cat hiss you, either watch yourself or stay away
"Do not support the exotic pet trade" is pushing it but I do agree that these cats should not be kept as pets nor bred as hybrids. However not all exotic pets are bred or kept irresponsibly.
Savanahs are very good pets and there are plenty of breeders that care for their pets the savanah is a great breed I own one and he bites but it's playful what your mistaking as attacking is really just playing bigcat that's not attacking and you bigcatrescue said yourself that servals protect 10 square mile ranges so why are you keeping them in cages you have dug your own hole servals are wild but can be domesticated if you are responsible and have the knowledge to do so when you think about b
@loren1173 We RESCUE these cats mostly from people who no longer want these wild cats living in their home with them. We provide them with large natural enclosures with lots to do and explore, without us they would be in far worse situations or dead. Savannah cats in general do not make good pets, there may be exceptions to the rule, but our argument is why create this new breed of cat that still retains it's wild instincts when there are thousands of true domestic cats be killed each day!????
@BigCatRescue Check facts BEFORE you post-you're wrong. 1)Don't confuse serval&Savannah; genetically, Savannahs are domestic, not wild. 2)Savannahs good, very intelligent pets-the 60+ I've met were better behaved than many DSH. 3)Agree about stopping exotic trade, but of all smallcats, servals/cheetahs have the longest history of domestication..and of breeding with domestic cats in the wild, so there is a precedent. 4)Savannahs usually cost a fraction of $20K and unwanted ones are rare.
@loren1173 While it's true their natural territory range, they are not coming in from the wild. A large percentage have been kept in basements, residential homes with a yard that they MIGHT be able to explore in a limited range. So they aren't missing what they never had. They're better cared for and provided with proper enrichment and enclosure needs that they may not have even had before. Think before you try and come off as a conservationist. You don't put domesticated animals in the wild.
@loren1173 I lived and worked in Southern Africa, my room mate was a vet there and we had a rescued Serval that we rehabilitated to a big cat park in Zambia. Currently Servals are under threat in Botswana and Zambia and domesticated "wild' cats that are "pets" are being more and more inbred in the USA harming them. So why must you feel the need to own one They are not a novelty, though you may feel otherwise. Save your money and go observe these, and other, amazing animals in the wild.
I don't disagree with the comment about Servals being removed from the wild for breeding exotic pets... Servals are nearly endangered in the wild. BUT, this video makes bold statements which are far from true. Savannah cats can and do make excellent pets. With man taking over so much habitat, animals that can co-exist with humans will have a much better chance to survive and if exotic pets are bred in captivity rather than captured from the wild, it actually protects their genetic diversity.
@elUnderscore Telling breeder to not "over do it" will not have any effect on them whatsoever, this is how they make a living and they have very little interest in animal welfare.
@ThaDopist That's your opinion, just because a serval is a cat doesn't mean it's life is any less valuable than a person's. It should not be subjected to pain, starvation or abuse for no reason. If there are people out there ready to spend their money to help another life, let them. I very much doubt the money otherwise would have gone to feeding starving children.
@ThaDopist DO YOU HAVE A TELEVISION? OR A CAR? IF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT THOSE THINGS YOU COULD HAVE FED A BUNCH OF THOSE STARVING CHILDREN YOU SPEAK OF. HYPOCRITE.
I have an F4 Savannah, she is 4 and a half months and she is one of the best cats by far i have ever had. She is very loyal to me and is very affectionate. She is great with people and children. I have never seen her scratch or hiss out of anger at anyone (people wise). So, when people tell me that making a Savannah cat is "wrong" or even the savannah cat is wild and the serval instincts will take over" should do more research on Savannah cats. the serval however is a wild animal not a pet
@spector4pro Breeding Savannah cats is not a good thing to do, your is and F4 so you have a cat which will be more "domesticated" than say an F1 etc... But what happens to all the previous generations of cats that are bred and not wanted, many are sold only to become unwanted when the owners realize they have purchased a still very much wild cat and the cats are always the ones to suffer. Savannah cats were never needed, there are literally thousands of true domestic cats euthanized every day :(
@BigCatRescue you're an idiot. Quit pushing your views on others. The world would be a much better place with out people like you telling others what they should do with their freedom.
@BigCatRescue yes but maybe people dont want some boring domestic cat duh. Its like if you wanted a cheesburger and were told to eat hot dog because well "we have 100s being thrown away every day". They are the customer willing to pay 20k for a cat, they should have it instead of some old domestic fleabag.
@BigCatRescue- from my past experience working in the exotic vet world, I have concluded that almost any animal can be domesticated with the proper knowledge and training. An animal is an animal is an animal if you know what I mean. It's basic operative conditioning, all one really needs is time.
@LightMyFirexxx This isn't true, these animals will always have their wild instincts no matter what you do, you may get to the point where you think you have "domesticated" them for the cat to turn around and attack you, just look at seigfried and roy....
@BigCatRescue Really? Seigfriend and Roy? I'm somehwat dissapointed that you choose that as a response. Two idiots who DID NOT have the proper training required to work with large felines and two cats who any professional animal worker could see had not been trained throughly enough from the get- go.
Also, instincts can be redirected or disuaded; the work of Ivan Pavlov and B.F Skinner comes to mind.
@BigCatRescue beaten? I would never harm any animal. I've had the pleasure to help and heal animals throughout my life and do not appreaciate the insinuation you make. By redirected and disuaded i merely mean that said instincts can be "overcome' through conditioning.
@LightMyFirexxx I wasn't referring to you specifically but the way these animals are treated in circuses and other entertainment acts and also many private residences where they are "trained" by beating them from a young age so they "behave" Their wild instincts will always be there no matter what is done and if these instincts over ride their fear someday that's when people are attacked.
no no no see when a prosoner in prison lets say a killer that thrives to kill is there fo 50 years then they become instatutionalized and that becomes they way of life.and thats kind of what happend wit this cat she was out in the open and wild as can be and her mother died and i took her and she became the same way.and she is the best pet i have ever had she plays and protects and has never bit me in the 8 years i have had her so i dont understand how they are a bad pet, she uses the toilet
@Shadcrouse How did her mother die? You must own an extremely unique serval, especially since she was wild born ???? After working around over 20 servals for the past 3 years I know they make terrible "pets"
shut the hell up people i own one.i saved it when i went to africa and fought and it was a kitten and shes fine never gets mad or attacks soooo dangerous yes...but if domesticated at birth its fine yall strait trippin.my son playes wit her.hes 7.i recomend this cat cause its a great friend to have and shes happ.u can see it
@Shadcrouse Please, these cats can NEVER be "domesticated" you're just lucky that you switched off her wild genes, for now.... that is....If you really love your serval, give it a wild enviroment as possible or surrender it to big cat rescue. you're just lucky that you found one like that, but those ARE RARITIES! dont SUPPORT THE EXOTIC PET TRADE
If you own a cat, it becomes your responsibility to take care of it. If you do not give an animal something fun to do, it will find something fun to do. I have enough trouble finding things for my Bengal to do to keep entertained, I cannot imagine how much time it would take to keep a Serval or Savahnah occupied. I do not have that many rodents around my house now. With a Serval, I could keep the whole neighborhood tidy and free of rodents...and ...
Dogs, generally ,do not help us hunt, though some do. Cats as such, do not help us control the mouse population. Most cats have never see a mouse. Dogs and cats are now used for companionship.
@theGroveMan I was referring to the past when dogs and cats were used for these reasons, what reason do we have to try and "domesticate" tigers ...... none.
I didn't want this to be a debate. YOU GUYS are great ! And what you do is admirable and appreciated. If tigers (I wasn't really referring to them as such but Servals) become "extinct" in the wild, then the reasons for domestication would be more obvious. Particularly if their environment is taken away or if their land has become a habitat for humans.
@theGroveMan Thanks, even if that was to happen, "domestication" isn't what should be done, there are facilities where these animals could kept in captivity without them living in backyards and homes. etc..
Why do people breed Bulldogs? They have breathing problems and their mother needs in most cases a c-section delivery? We do this all the time and no one flinches or thinks about it. Sometimes we breed because of colors. Sometimes for the way something "looks".
I respect what y'all do but I have to say you do seem to make out all the 'big cats' as animals that will rip your face off while you sleep. LOL. I have owned an F1 serval for 3 years now and he is the best cat I have ever had. Granted I've read where owners have spraying problems, but mine learned really quick to use a toilet. I I do think there is responsible ownership of these cats. Mine gets the best, and has never hissed at me, my dog, or my two tabbies. They aren't all want flesh lol!
Big cat rescue savannahs r nice cats but need a large house to play in not a 3-5 feet cage. If u treat a cat bad it will be wild. All cats and dogs were once wild the serval is considered to be domestic in egypt for 1000 of years savannahs r not dangerous cats big cat rescue is using this video like how peta uses there videos heres the worst and its all like that . A serval can be domestic in egypt or wild in africa
@MrScottishJamie We're not saying that every single savannah and serval on the planet is a blood thirsty, hissing, spitting nightmare, we are simply stating that these animals will ALWAYS have their wild instincts, we have around 20 servals at the sanctuary all of which are former "pets" that were unwanted when people realized what a huge mistake they had made. Have you ever thought about how savannah cats are bred, all of our servals would rather eat a domestic cat than mate with it.
@BigCatRescue More recently, they have been kept as pets in North America and Europe. Servals develop an intense emotional bond with their original owners. Often, they will choose one member of the human family they live with to form an especially close and intense bond. However, once they have bonded with a particular human family, servals do not easily accept new owners or surroundings, and they may become quite unhappy if separated or placed with other families.
@BigCatRescue and they may become quite unhappy if separated or placed with other families. For this reason, anyone taking in a serval must be willing to house and keep the serval for its entire life
Recently, servals have been bred with the domestic cat to create a hybrid breed of domestic cat called the Savannah.
@MrScottishJamie Yes more hybrid designer cats that people pay thousands for so they can feel special and unique, savannah cats still have wild instincts.
@BigCatRescue These animals tend to be smaller than the serval, but retain the markings and color of the serval. These animals are more tolerant of multiple owners, are more reliably litter trained, and tend to be more social with strangers. However, because the breeding can be difficult, the first generation (F1) animals tend to remain less common and quite expensive (as cat breeds go). Most states consider the product of a wild animal and a domestic cat to be a domestic cat,
@BigCatRescue Most states consider the product of a wild animal and a domestic cat to be a domestic cat, and therefore regulations for owning these animals tend to be similar to owning any domestic cat this info is from Wikipedia not a breeder website .
@BigCatRescue i see u picked the selection of info that u wanted how very undemocratic with this comment pending iam not surprised i post other comments but u did not accept them why is that
@MrScottishJamie No to mention all the earlier generations of savannah kittens that aren't wanted by the breeders what happens to them? A house is no substitute for animal that would roam miles and miles in the wild, this is abuse in itself to us, keeping them trapped in your home...
@BigCatRescue Ancient Egyptians did not only keep servals as wild pets but also to protect there grain . Servals were the first cat type cat . domestic cats to be wild . Servals r only bad if the breeder is bad they do need a lot of space same with savannahs . there is a difference between a wild cat and a wild big cat a wild big cat can kill you . Asian leopard cats and servals can be tame if bottle fed by the owner when they r young .
@BigCatRescue your cages r to small for a savannah that is animal cruelty . My cat is not trapped in my home my home is very large. Also by pulling a savannah cat away from its owner will turn the savannah feral . Servals Savannahs Bengals r highly attached to there owner in a dog way .
@MrScottishJamie Our enclosures may appear small on videos but they are built in several sections in peanut shapes so they are stronger and we can close the animals off into other sections if we need to do any maintenance.
@AtemsLullaby The simple answer is no, they are a wild species of cat and no matter the size or what you do to "train" wild cat they will always have their instincts to spray everywhere and attack if they feel threatened or don't want to be played with etc... stick to domestic cats :)
Why are you TRYING to make the Serval out to be a DANGEROUS and AGGRESSIVE animal in which it is NOT! GOOGLE SERVAL ATTACK and you'll find NOTHING!!! They NEVER attack humans and of course an animal that hasn't been domesticated/tamed will "hiss" when SCARED because thats what YOU would be if anything BIGGER then you that you had never seen before approached. I'm all for Savannah cats and Servals. Maybe we should let Servals reach the endangered level like Tigers! They last 5 years in the wild!
@TJscrilla Just because you don't find anything on google doesn't mean it hasn't happened before. All wild species of cats can be dangerous and aggressive this is a FACT, breeding servals and savannah cats doesn't help wild populations of servals, it just means more and more wild cats living miserable lives in captivity.
I am a big fan of BigCatRescue, but let me ask this. How did domestication occur? Evolutionarily speaking, it was "because" we had these animals in captivity for thousands of years. Since we domesticated the dog, the cat, doesn't it stand to reason we "can", given enough geological time domesticate the serval?
@theGroveMan There are many domestic cats that I know that are still very much wild. The question is just because we can try, should we? The answer is no, these cats will always retain their wild instincts no matter what we do or how long we try and domesticate them for, which will result in more unnecessary attacks and deaths ....
I am sure that was the case when we began domesticating dogs (once wolves) and now look our relationship with them. Not to mention artificial selection and dog breeding.
@theGroveMan Then I refer back to my previous point, just because we can try, should we? The answer is no we don not need "domestic" tigers to help us hunt or control the mouse population on our farms.
Ofcourse they should have conditions regarding to breeding etc.. but I think its overrated and not an issue... just create more knowledge to threat animals better domestic or wild, I think that's where you need to focus on!
humans have pets even wild pets since thousands of years and suddenly it is something cruel?
I really would like to have this savannah catbut yeah the prices are the thing even more cruel!
However I think you're privileged to work with these animals! good luck with that!
First f all I think this whole organisation is handling correct business and I am not against your opinions but what about people getting crocs and snakes,.. its just as bad and the key difference is that a breed mixed from serval and domestic is created for people that really want a cat like this. They are breed to be handled at home..
Ever see a snake getting domestic?
Better the offspring than the original which should stay in the wild.
OK... too clear it up... The more people capture or raise servals to make Savanah cats... Have you thought about where the parents are? With a pet as pricey as a Savannah cat...I'd think some servals would be bred in "Puppy-mill" fashion to have them or their babies sold top be bred. Your Savannah Cat can be awesome and the love of your life... but do you care HOW that Savannah cat came to be?... "Puppy mill" conditions, anyone?
@AlienXCherie Any reputable breeder has a Serval on the premises. The cat is loved and cared for as any other feline in the breeding program. Any litter that comes from a puppymill or a pet shop is NOT sold by these reputable breeders. They take their responsibility very seriously and should be respected for their diligence in preserving the blood line.
@AlienXCherie no, there are only a few savanah cat breeders in the world because they are hard to breed. they are raised in a house like normal cats. i dont think savanah cats will ever become something bred in a puppy-mill like way. they are difficult to even breed in the first place and their offspring are usually sterile, so they wont be mass bred. look it up. there are savanah breeders online that can tell you what you are asking.
Just curious, have you guys ever challenged Animal Planet for their segment on the Savana Cat in Cats 101? They put in there that it can make a good pet if your are willing to take a "walk on the wild side" (I don't side with Animal Planet on this one).
I like the Savannah cats and Savannahs have been caught co-habitating with the African Wild Cats which are where domestic Cats came from. A domestic can hold its own against a Serval. Some Savannah's are great pets and are actually being shown by cat fancier's. Welcome the Savannah Cat into the domestic cat species rather than villafying them. Oh and wild cats don't spray everywhere if they are fixed or female. Not to mention the entire cat family have the same bone structure & all vets know!!
@kurtanglekobebryant We have all seen clips of savannah cats acting "domestic" but what about the previously bred generations, what happens to all these cats? This is the main problem these designer cats are being bred to sell to people who want to feel special and unique with no thought about the process. So many ares old to unsuspecting people who later find out how wild their savannah cats still are and then they are abandoned. Go rescue a true domestic cat and stop paying the breeders.
@Dipsomaniak Our cats have no alternative if we didn't rescue them and provide them with a home they would be in far worse conditions or dead. They cannot be released into the wild we wish it were that easy....
I love big cats but i agree that they should never be used as pets (even if they are a mix of wild cat and domesticated cat). They may at times seem tamed but you never know when their wild side will come out and cause major damage either to property or to people.
I simply adore felines: cats. Tigers. Jaguars, leopards. Snow leopards, caracals, servals... But specially I adoooore lions :).
I wanted 2 pet a Sabannah kitty kat & all the big cats I discovered on T.V. & internet :). BUT when Ur love 4 them grows, Ur heart is theirs & then you love'em putting yourself on their shoes, & then it's not about your ego but their dignity & happiness :). B'cos U realise those big wildy cats need big wild natural places 2 have big & big mental & physical health :) ;).
Why would you say its not recommended to have a Savannah as a pet?
No reason to spread lies and propaganda, just make the educational video and be done with it. Now you've lost all credibility by saying stupid things.
@BarryMaurice Because from our experience, dealing with abandoned savannah cats, it proves best for the owners and the animals to not own savannah cats, they still have wild instincts remaining, plus the process of breeding savannah cats just isn't right in our books.
@BigCatRescue If you have so much problems with abandoned savannah cats, why don't you just contact savannah cat rescue? They have a waiting list. BTW I don't own savannah cat, I don't breed cats, and my only cat is from a shelter. But I read a lot about savannahs, many sites and points of view, saw them at a cat show, even read owners' forum - I am thorough when I research something, and I saw so many lies, it changed my opinion about you. I respect your right to your opinion, but not lies.
@jewelmarkess Well done for not creating more domestic kittens when there are so many euthanized each month in shelters :) Like we've said some later generations of savannah cats appear to be kept as pets easily. But we're against the whole process of breeding them in the first place...what happens to all the savannahs that are not wanted? We are constantly working on rescuing many big cats, it's best to leave other organizations to focus on savannah rescues etc..
@BigCatRescue It also depends on where you are getting your info from on the web, of course all the breeders who make their living from breeding savannah cats are going to say their fine to be kept as pets etc... We aren't lying, it just turns into a case of they say this we say that and so on and so on....
@BigCatRescue I really don't know what to say. I've owned 2 bengals and 2 savannahs. Between me, my friends, and the few breeders I know and have interaction with their many many cats, I have honestly never come by a badly behaved savannah or bengal. In fact, I'll go a step further and say that the lower their number (f1 f2 f3 etc) the better of a cat it is with not only personality but general household activity. You can not compare a normal cat to a savannah....
@BarryMaurice you are right. i have a bengal sav cross and it is the love of my life, we play fetch everyday and despite what some say, she is a lap cat
@BigCatRescue ...a normal cat is lazy and pretty much worthless after 8-12 months as it just lays around, eats, and does nothing. A savannah is like a dog and if it isn't sleeping, it's playing. The personality of a savannah is that of a dog. It enjoys car rides, playing fetch, tug of war, playing in water, and even walking on a leash.
I've never owned a serval or an F1, I'm sure a serval would be a handful and I could see an F1 being a slight issue to deal with. But anything over an F2 is fine
@BarryMaurice Worthless ??!! we're more worried about the fact that ignorant people are profiting from breeding these hybrid cats to make money when so many are abandoned or unwanted when they revert back to their wild instincts. Especially when thousands and thousands of domestic cats that are true pets get euthanized each week in shelters :(
@BigCatRescue I feel bad about alley cats and the humane society. I give $20 a month to the humane society. Unfortunately a normal alley cat or even a normal full-breed cat simply can't compare to a Savannah. Savannah cats are insanely awesome. Their personalities, their energy, and their intelligence. I don't think I could ever go back to owning anything but a Savannah, they are just too awesome.
If you want a wild-looking domestic cat, get an Ocicat. They have beautiful spots and an active and sociable temperament- all the pluses of Savannahs without the negatives that come along with the wild blood.
@BigCatRescue i have a savannah and it is one of the most amazing things ive ever owned he is completely different then normal cat.... i completely agree with you in that you should support the shelters and all that but a savannah is as different froma normal cat as a dog is to a normal cat..... i highly suggest savannahs to anyone who is willing to spend time with them... they are the most amazing pets to own.....
like Bigcats said, Savannah's are man-made, they still have wild instincts that can harm a person, not to mention that Savannah's are larger than Maine Coon's.
This video is garbage. People act as if savannah cats are these abominations that are going to kill your children, when they can easily be as mild-tempered as any house cat. I say nurture trumps nature in that department. And as for Servals, you say yourself they are prime targets for poachers and trappers, so....having one as a pet would actually be beneficial to the Serval no?
@DanSpaceEdot Some are better than others, but the bottom line is that savannah cats shouldn't exist, they are man made, sold for thousands and most still have those wild instincts that makes them unsuitable "pets" Owning a serval would just fuel the exotic "pet" trade which means more captive bred cats will be sold to spend miserable lives living in backyards
@BigCatRescue Well, rather than attacking the exotic pet trade, in which not all owners are irresponsible; wouldn't it make more sense to rally for tighter regulations and more oversight for owners who do decide to adopt a wild cat? And saying savannah cats shouldn't exist would be the same as saying 99% of all domestic cats should not exist. The domestic cat was not a natural occurance. Wild cats were domesticated under much harsher conditions than in present times. Seems hypocritical to me.
@DanSpaceEdot All people who own wild species of cats or hybrids are responsible for fueling the exotic pet trade, if people didn't buy these cats the trade wouldn't be. Domesticating wild cats in the past can't be contrasted with savannah cat breeding which is purely for people who want a "designer pet" to make them feel special.
Savannahs have been around for quite some time and work fine as a domesticated cat. They don't attack humans and are more evenly tempered than their serval counterparts. Also, Servals have been kept as pets for centuries. Even though it's a wild cat, their primary food source is not large animals such as humans. They won't fall over on accident some day and crush someone, it's not going to happen. If there was a history of aggressive domesticated servals or savannahs I would be more worried.
@mbr05c I know humans have been attacked by servals in homes (children) servals have been kept by pets, but does this make it right to breed them for the exotic "pet" trade.....NO.
Servals hiss only when in danger . Hissing for affection is an abnormal behavior only manifested in captive breed or hybrids . Similar behavior can be seen in african wild cats meow only when calling kittens . semi domesticated ones meow for affection . In general small to medium cats rarely make a sound for fear of predation .
Servals hiss for warning in wild . Hissing for affection is manifested only in captive breed or semi domesticated one which is an abnormal behavior . Similar situation can be seen in african wild cats which only meows when calling kittens . Captive breed or Semi domesticated one meow for attention . Most wild cats (small to medium) rarely make any sound for fear of predation.
I really don't understand how delusional someone can be, to repeatedly call big cats experts idiots because they are so narrow minded enough to believe people who are creating something that goes against nature and are probably very cruel people to animals out of their natural habitats, is insane. Do you call yourself enemy of the state because your so paranoid that everythings against you? Or are you saying it to just piss people off? These people are trying to do good to the world
see in part of this video you will see the servals ears up that hissing is not a "warning" hiss it is a welcome hiss but you see big cat rescue dont want you to know that they just say all hissing is a warning hiss witch is not true and they know that and when you bring the facts to the table they cancel your post
@EnemyOfTheState1 Big Cat Rescue doesn't try to hide anything, from our experience working with servals (18 years) to the best of our knowledge servals hissing or any cat for that matter is a sign of hostility, we've never heard of cats hissing as a "welcome" as you put it. As there been scientific studies into hisses???!!!
@dreamorigami this was just in response to the constant silly comments saying that servals hiss when as a welcome etc... which is obviously not the case :)
@BigCatRescue well not say ur wrong in any way but i do think that yall are just shooting the serval down cuz the ones yall have are kept in a cage. let me put u in a cage and see how u like it. now i have been around servals also but never have i been hissed at nor shown any sign of aggression.
@IFIXUR360 No we're not trying to give the serval a bad reputation, we're simply showing them for what they are, they are wild animals and shouldn't be owned and kept in someone's home. I know without a doubt after spending years working around these cats that they would much rather be in a natural enclosure outside and being left to do what they want to do, rather than being cooped up inside.
@EnemyOfTheState1 Apparently you really don't know very much about feline behaviour. Even in a domestic cat a hiss is not exactly a welcome - it means a variety of things from 'stay away' to 'leave me alone' to 'I'm really afraid', etc, etc, etc. You really need to get a clue - wild animals are NOT good pet material, you want a cool looking cat visit your local shelter and if you really want to test the theory of hissing being welcoming stick your finger in the first hissing cat's cage!
bigcatrescue get your facts right you know that when a serval hisses it does not always mean stay away or "warning" like what you say, and why dont you post all the comments that people write or post
@EnemyOfTheState1 Like I've said for the tenth time, you are getting your "facts" from websites where people are breeding and selling these cats to make a living they will tell anyone anything in order to make money. I've worked around these cats for years and years so I know what I'm talking about. The reason I delete some comments is just a matter of not wasting time so I'm not responding to idiotic questions like yours all the time.
@BigCatRescue they are not idiotic when what you say about servals are wrong i talk to 2 other people at a zoo and a safari sanctuary witch does the same thing you do and they both told me that servals have 3 types of hissing ALL HISSING DOES NOT MEAN STAY WAY OR WARNING so get your facts right
i dont' know about all of that not being domesticated at all. we have an F5 that doesnt do any of this. she is a lap cat. so yes the less wild they have in them the less prone to wild habits...correct?
i'd make exsotic pet trade of endangered species illegal. if you truly love a wild animal, you'll live it in the wild, that's where they should be.
btw, i gave this channel a shoutout to one of my youtube friends, hopefully he will subscribe, i want you guys to have as much support as possible, since you help the best animal species on earth :D
mkocja5a 3 weeks ago 2
@mkocja5a You're absolutely right, thanks for the support! :)
BigCatRescue 2 weeks ago
SOME servals may be treated nicely, but MOST aren't. Guys, Big Cat Rescue is not only educated by knowledge, but by experience. They have seen situations that would make most of you faint, cry, or vomit. They deal with this EVERY DAY! So stop talking to them like they know nothing... I was raised in an Arizona wildlife rescue... guess who got called when their sweet bobcat mauled the dog .
AlienXCherie 2 months ago
I think you guys forget that Big Cat Rescue is one of the country's most respected Exotic Cat rescue! They have seen things... experianced things most of you would faint, cry or vomit over. They are educated and have heavy experience... some servals lead a good life... but MOST don't
AlienXCherie 2 months ago
OK, the cat just ruined all of your 'dangerous' and 'wild' comments at 2:20 :)
QuickRefs 2 months ago
Are servals the ones that people mix with domestic cats to create a breed sold for thousands of dollars?
newfful 3 months ago
@newfful Yes, they're called Savannah cats, as you say breeders sell these for huge sums of money and many of them become unwanted because they don't make good pets.
BigCatRescue 3 months ago
@BigCatRescue Again, incorrect. I don't think you kn0w the first thing about Savannahs; hopefully you're more informed on big cats. I've now adopted two Savannahs, an F2 and an F4. They do not "pee all over the house," they're fastidious in their litterbox habits. They're not vicious. One's sleeping in my lap right now, exhausted after romping through the house with my 9-year old niece. I've trained them to sit on command-they got it in 10 minutes--and we're working on shaking hands.
cynmorganica 2 months ago
@cynmorganica There are exceptions to the rule, but all the savannah cats we have dealt with, be it rescues or helping to place unwanted cats have been unsuitable as pets because there wild instincts remain. Have you ever wondered what happens to all these unwanted savannah cats? These cats that are bred to make money and just because people want "something different"...
BigCatRescue 2 months ago 2
@cynmorganica
You're arrogant, and I suspect you lie. You think you know more about cats than these people b/c you've owned some exotic animals for a few months? Get real. Also, I really doubt that you taught any sort of cat to sit on command in ten minutes, let alone one that is half wild.
sean12sean 1 month ago
@BigCatRescue
Because people do not know how to treat their cats doesn't mean you should say they make bad pets.
If they made bad pets, they wouldn't be expensive? Who wants to pay a substantial sum of money for something they're going to end up giving up? I can see conflict with raising a Lion or a Tiger, but a Savannah? They are bred to be domestic animals, for the demand you claim is 'wrong.'
Alan17042 2 months ago
@Alan17042
Just because they're expensive and won't eat you for dinner doesn't mean they're domestic animals.
TheGravitationist 2 months ago
@Alan17042 You can buy a sundae for $1000. Cost doesn't equate to value.....and value is subjective. Sometimes it's just a status thing. Besides, no matter how much you spend on something, if it does turn out to be a threat...why would you keep it? If you spent $1000 on a golden toilet seat and it made your backside bleed...is it worth keeping?
A serval is not a domestic cat and it's being forced to breed, and even if the Savannah is part domestic, the other part is a gamble.
Alysaria 2 months ago
the one at 1:20 looks pretty drunk 2 me? Anyone else agree?
ugleland 4 months ago
the savannah cat - hybrid of serval and domestic cat - is beautiful and is sold as an expensive pet to cat fanciers. according to you this is wrong. but they do it and they have customers. doesn't that prove that there is a demand for these wonderful animals.
toddthedrysocket 4 months ago
@toddthedrysocket Just because there is a demand doesn't make it right.
BigCatRescue 4 months ago 9
@BigCatRescue Check facts BEFORE you post-you're wrong. 1)Don't confuse serval&Savannah; genetically, Savannahs are domestic, not wild. 2)Savannahs good, very intelligent pets-the 60+ I've met were better behaved than many DSH. 3)Agree about stopping exotic trade, but of all smallcats, servals/cheetahs have the longest history of domestication..and of breeding with domestic cats in the wild, so there is a precedent. 4)Savannahs usually cost a fraction of $20K and unwanted ones are rare.
cynmorganica 5 months ago
@cynmorganica I've never heard of a cheetah breeding with a domestic cat!??? All we do is check and stay up to date on the abuses cats are facing and unfortunately what we post is the truth.
BigCatRescue 5 months ago
@BigCatRescue Interesting that you haven't rebutted my main points. SAYING "what we post is the truth" doesn't matter if you can't back it up with fact. Which you haven't. So...Savannahs aren't wild, they make good (and incredibly intelligent pets), and they're rarely as expensive and almost never as unwanted as you've claimed. And yes, servals have frequently mated with domestic cats in the wild. Look it up. So nope, you don't post truth. Your aims are probably good, your arguments aren't.
cynmorganica 5 months ago
Sorry but I, lived and worked in Africa for many years among great animals and people but my question is, why is it always Americans who feel the need to buy "exotic" pets (ie taken out of their natural habitat in an attempt to domesticate them?). Not trying to be offensive, just absolutely stunned at the mentality. Why not go and rescue a kitten and let wild animals be wild?
gnarkillkicksass 5 months ago
@gnarkillkicksass We wish more people had your views on the subject :)
BigCatRescue 5 months ago
@gnarkillkicksass Congrats for your claims of living and working in Africa. I am South African and in most of Africa the medium to small sized animals have been kept as pets for hundreds of years. Cheetahs, Servals, Meerkats, all kinds of primates, and so on. Your ignorance really points to the fact that you have not actually been to the countries you claim to have lived in as the wildlife problems there are so many that North America wouldn't feature on any list of priorities.
EternalGoldenBraid 5 months ago
WHAT WEIRD KIDS
ellenpellenisking 5 months ago
I don't support the exotic pet trade for the reasons mentioned here and in the video. Most people want them just for the "exotic" tag NOTHING ELSE. I rescue reptiles mostly snakes for that EXACT reason. People get an animal thinking "Awww how cute!" Not realizing the price to properly care for them, how their attitude will change as the mature from a playful 'kitten' to a full on powerful adult cat. Some people are just stupid and thankfully BigCatRescue is here to cover their dumbass.
kaosu666 5 months ago
Seriously. What you guys are doing is close to propaganda, and you're hypocrites. If you say you want to drive yourselves out of business, why do you tell everyone it's impossible to care for a serval, and that they should remain wild? Servals are some of the most affectionate and playful cats I've ever seen and make wonderful companions, yet you are on a crusade to ensure nobody can ever enjoy this amazing creation of God. Elitist pricks.
Nocturnae80 5 months ago
@Nocturnae80 "why do you tell everyone it's impossible to care for a serval, and that they should remain wild" Becuase these are wild cats that deserve much more than to live their lives in backyards and basements, we have over 20 servals at BCR that were all former "pets" that people no longer wanted or could no longer care for.
BigCatRescue 5 months ago
@Nocturnae80 If the serval had the choice of being wild and free vs someones fancy 'pet' kitty. What do you think it would choose? You should honestly put yourself in the animals place. Just cause it's cute and cuddly doesn't mean it makes a good pet, in fact if it was repulsive no one would want it. But a wild animal is a wild animal, it belongs with it's own kind doing what it is naturally born to do. Being a serval.
VxdVxn 3 weeks ago
the servals are hissing because they were probably abused by the people u rescued them from its good that u are rescuing these animals because it is hard to care for a serval unless u are trained my savannah is the best cat ever he is curios and only nips u when he wants to play and the servals are hissing becaused they are enclosed and abused by their previous owners hence rescue servals also like to play just like all cats play even lions and tigers play u have to play with a serval or else
loren1173 6 months ago
I have domesticated cats myself and I know the difference of all the communicative sounds. A hiss IS a WARNING, not a greeting, if a wild or domesticated cat hiss you, either watch yourself or stay away
TheKhrystalRose 6 months ago
@TheKhrystalRose Thank you, there are more people out there with common sense! :)
BigCatRescue 5 months ago
@BigCatRescue no problem :) I've been raised around animals since I was a baby so I've got a bit of experience with domestic/wild animals
TheKhrystalRose 5 months ago
They look like bats too
meegowl 6 months ago
"Do not support the exotic pet trade" is pushing it but I do agree that these cats should not be kept as pets nor bred as hybrids. However not all exotic pets are bred or kept irresponsibly.
Shmloop 6 months ago in playlist big cats
i like servals. ...but i dont like kiddies, talking sloppy, like ballgagged! :P
learn how to speak! hehehe xD
muffty1337 6 months ago
@muffty1337 i think she was handicapped bro... or broette :s
Ubermatronlives 6 months ago
Savanahs are awesome
loren1173 7 months ago
Savanahs are very good pets and there are plenty of breeders that care for their pets the savanah is a great breed I own one and he bites but it's playful what your mistaking as attacking is really just playing bigcat that's not attacking and you bigcatrescue said yourself that servals protect 10 square mile ranges so why are you keeping them in cages you have dug your own hole servals are wild but can be domesticated if you are responsible and have the knowledge to do so when you think about b
loren1173 7 months ago
@loren1173 We RESCUE these cats mostly from people who no longer want these wild cats living in their home with them. We provide them with large natural enclosures with lots to do and explore, without us they would be in far worse situations or dead. Savannah cats in general do not make good pets, there may be exceptions to the rule, but our argument is why create this new breed of cat that still retains it's wild instincts when there are thousands of true domestic cats be killed each day!????
BigCatRescue 6 months ago 4
@BigCatRescue Check facts BEFORE you post-you're wrong. 1)Don't confuse serval&Savannah; genetically, Savannahs are domestic, not wild. 2)Savannahs good, very intelligent pets-the 60+ I've met were better behaved than many DSH. 3)Agree about stopping exotic trade, but of all smallcats, servals/cheetahs have the longest history of domestication..and of breeding with domestic cats in the wild, so there is a precedent. 4)Savannahs usually cost a fraction of $20K and unwanted ones are rare.
cynmorganica 5 months ago
@loren1173 While it's true their natural territory range, they are not coming in from the wild. A large percentage have been kept in basements, residential homes with a yard that they MIGHT be able to explore in a limited range. So they aren't missing what they never had. They're better cared for and provided with proper enrichment and enclosure needs that they may not have even had before. Think before you try and come off as a conservationist. You don't put domesticated animals in the wild.
kaosu666 5 months ago
@loren1173 I lived and worked in Southern Africa, my room mate was a vet there and we had a rescued Serval that we rehabilitated to a big cat park in Zambia. Currently Servals are under threat in Botswana and Zambia and domesticated "wild' cats that are "pets" are being more and more inbred in the USA harming them. So why must you feel the need to own one They are not a novelty, though you may feel otherwise. Save your money and go observe these, and other, amazing animals in the wild.
gnarkillkicksass 5 months ago
45 people are exotic pet traders. lol
chichirinuriko20 7 months ago
Servals are soo cute.
HarunoSoul 7 months ago
i love servals almost as much as i love cheetahs
sonicfangirl1032 7 months ago
xD 2:21
yuna097 7 months ago
JR Sports Brief...
Matthew0161 7 months ago
I don't disagree with the comment about Servals being removed from the wild for breeding exotic pets... Servals are nearly endangered in the wild. BUT, this video makes bold statements which are far from true. Savannah cats can and do make excellent pets. With man taking over so much habitat, animals that can co-exist with humans will have a much better chance to survive and if exotic pets are bred in captivity rather than captured from the wild, it actually protects their genetic diversity.
lewiar 8 months ago
1:07 - nom, nom, nom, nom!
tallicalad 8 months ago
:38 Vegan Serval cat.
madisonelectronic 8 months ago
@elUnderscore Telling breeder to not "over do it" will not have any effect on them whatsoever, this is how they make a living and they have very little interest in animal welfare.
BigCatRescue 8 months ago
hmmmmmmmm spending 20k on a cat? ooooor feed a bunch of starving children......
decisions decisions....
ThaDopist 9 months ago 15
@ThaDopist i´ll take the cat..
rrocamar 8 months ago
@ThaDopist That's your opinion, just because a serval is a cat doesn't mean it's life is any less valuable than a person's. It should not be subjected to pain, starvation or abuse for no reason. If there are people out there ready to spend their money to help another life, let them. I very much doubt the money otherwise would have gone to feeding starving children.
TheWhalefreak101 3 months ago
@ThaDopist i say donate to companies protecting endangered animals.
mkocja5a 3 weeks ago
@ThaDopist Animals ALWAYS deserve better than humans ;D
90Kirame 6 days ago
@ThaDopist DO YOU HAVE A TELEVISION? OR A CAR? IF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT THOSE THINGS YOU COULD HAVE FED A BUNCH OF THOSE STARVING CHILDREN YOU SPEAK OF. HYPOCRITE.
21leftcenter 6 days ago
You guys make a wonderful job. I wish I could donate a lot of money, but I don't have any :(
SakiAiza 9 months ago
I have an F4 Savannah, she is 4 and a half months and she is one of the best cats by far i have ever had. She is very loyal to me and is very affectionate. She is great with people and children. I have never seen her scratch or hiss out of anger at anyone (people wise). So, when people tell me that making a Savannah cat is "wrong" or even the savannah cat is wild and the serval instincts will take over" should do more research on Savannah cats. the serval however is a wild animal not a pet
spector4pro 9 months ago 2
@spector4pro Breeding Savannah cats is not a good thing to do, your is and F4 so you have a cat which will be more "domesticated" than say an F1 etc... But what happens to all the previous generations of cats that are bred and not wanted, many are sold only to become unwanted when the owners realize they have purchased a still very much wild cat and the cats are always the ones to suffer. Savannah cats were never needed, there are literally thousands of true domestic cats euthanized every day :(
BigCatRescue 9 months ago 5
@BigCatRescue you're an idiot. Quit pushing your views on others. The world would be a much better place with out people like you telling others what they should do with their freedom.
blackshirts13 8 months ago
@blackshirts13 So people can continue to exploit and abuse animals, that's not our opinion of a better world??!!
BigCatRescue 8 months ago 4
@BigCatRescue yes but maybe people dont want some boring domestic cat duh. Its like if you wanted a cheesburger and were told to eat hot dog because well "we have 100s being thrown away every day". They are the customer willing to pay 20k for a cat, they should have it instead of some old domestic fleabag.
drawmaster77 6 months ago
@BigCatRescue- from my past experience working in the exotic vet world, I have concluded that almost any animal can be domesticated with the proper knowledge and training. An animal is an animal is an animal if you know what I mean. It's basic operative conditioning, all one really needs is time.
LightMyFirexxx 9 months ago
@LightMyFirexxx This isn't true, these animals will always have their wild instincts no matter what you do, you may get to the point where you think you have "domesticated" them for the cat to turn around and attack you, just look at seigfried and roy....
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
@BigCatRescue Really? Seigfriend and Roy? I'm somehwat dissapointed that you choose that as a response. Two idiots who DID NOT have the proper training required to work with large felines and two cats who any professional animal worker could see had not been trained throughly enough from the get- go.
Also, instincts can be redirected or disuaded; the work of Ivan Pavlov and B.F Skinner comes to mind.
LightMyFirexxx 9 months ago
@LightMyFirexxx "redirected and disuaded" you mean their wild instincts can be beaten out of them...
BigCatRescue 9 months ago 2
@BigCatRescue beaten? I would never harm any animal. I've had the pleasure to help and heal animals throughout my life and do not appreaciate the insinuation you make. By redirected and disuaded i merely mean that said instincts can be "overcome' through conditioning.
LightMyFirexxx 9 months ago
@LightMyFirexxx I wasn't referring to you specifically but the way these animals are treated in circuses and other entertainment acts and also many private residences where they are "trained" by beating them from a young age so they "behave" Their wild instincts will always be there no matter what is done and if these instincts over ride their fear someday that's when people are attacked.
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
no no no see when a prosoner in prison lets say a killer that thrives to kill is there fo 50 years then they become instatutionalized and that becomes they way of life.and thats kind of what happend wit this cat she was out in the open and wild as can be and her mother died and i took her and she became the same way.and she is the best pet i have ever had she plays and protects and has never bit me in the 8 years i have had her so i dont understand how they are a bad pet, she uses the toilet
Shadcrouse 10 months ago
@Shadcrouse How did her mother die? You must own an extremely unique serval, especially since she was wild born ???? After working around over 20 servals for the past 3 years I know they make terrible "pets"
BigCatRescue 10 months ago
@Shadcrouse see this person cares for his or her pets and probably knows a thing or two more than you about servals
loren1173 6 months ago
shut the hell up people i own one.i saved it when i went to africa and fought and it was a kitten and shes fine never gets mad or attacks soooo dangerous yes...but if domesticated at birth its fine yall strait trippin.my son playes wit her.hes 7.i recomend this cat cause its a great friend to have and shes happ.u can see it
Shadcrouse 10 months ago
@Shadcrouse These cats cannot be domesticated, they will always have their wild instincts and they will always make bad 'pets"
BigCatRescue 10 months ago
@Shadcrouse Please, these cats can NEVER be "domesticated" you're just lucky that you switched off her wild genes, for now.... that is....If you really love your serval, give it a wild enviroment as possible or surrender it to big cat rescue. you're just lucky that you found one like that, but those ARE RARITIES! dont SUPPORT THE EXOTIC PET TRADE
CrazyForPianosGirl 10 months ago
If you own a cat, it becomes your responsibility to take care of it. If you do not give an animal something fun to do, it will find something fun to do. I have enough trouble finding things for my Bengal to do to keep entertained, I cannot imagine how much time it would take to keep a Serval or Savahnah occupied. I do not have that many rodents around my house now. With a Serval, I could keep the whole neighborhood tidy and free of rodents...and ...
icebiker3 10 months ago
God damn commercials.
metalrat9000 11 months ago
I can not understand how a civiliced country can allow trading of any wild and/or endangered species.
TheAntelwi 11 months ago
IT MEOWEDD <33 AWWW! <3
smokeymackpotkinss95 11 months ago
Dogs, generally ,do not help us hunt, though some do. Cats as such, do not help us control the mouse population. Most cats have never see a mouse. Dogs and cats are now used for companionship.
theGroveMan 11 months ago
@theGroveMan I was referring to the past when dogs and cats were used for these reasons, what reason do we have to try and "domesticate" tigers ...... none.
BigCatRescue 11 months ago
@BigCatRescue
I didn't want this to be a debate. YOU GUYS are great ! And what you do is admirable and appreciated. If tigers (I wasn't really referring to them as such but Servals) become "extinct" in the wild, then the reasons for domestication would be more obvious. Particularly if their environment is taken away or if their land has become a habitat for humans.
theGroveMan 11 months ago
@theGroveMan Thanks, even if that was to happen, "domestication" isn't what should be done, there are facilities where these animals could kept in captivity without them living in backyards and homes. etc..
BigCatRescue 11 months ago
@BigCatRescue
Why do people breed Bulldogs? They have breathing problems and their mother needs in most cases a c-section delivery? We do this all the time and no one flinches or thinks about it. Sometimes we breed because of colors. Sometimes for the way something "looks".
theGroveMan 11 months ago
@theGroveMan What's your point?
BigCatRescue 11 months ago
I respect what y'all do but I have to say you do seem to make out all the 'big cats' as animals that will rip your face off while you sleep. LOL. I have owned an F1 serval for 3 years now and he is the best cat I have ever had. Granted I've read where owners have spraying problems, but mine learned really quick to use a toilet. I I do think there is responsible ownership of these cats. Mine gets the best, and has never hissed at me, my dog, or my two tabbies. They aren't all want flesh lol!
Mustangkid82 11 months ago
This knee jerk negative reaction to people looking for animal companionship is just depressing. OH MY GOD EXOTIC PETS BAD PURE EVIL.
derpguyjohn 11 months ago
Big cat rescue savannahs r nice cats but need a large house to play in not a 3-5 feet cage. If u treat a cat bad it will be wild. All cats and dogs were once wild the serval is considered to be domestic in egypt for 1000 of years savannahs r not dangerous cats big cat rescue is using this video like how peta uses there videos heres the worst and its all like that . A serval can be domestic in egypt or wild in africa
MrScottishJamie 11 months ago
@MrScottishJamie We're not saying that every single savannah and serval on the planet is a blood thirsty, hissing, spitting nightmare, we are simply stating that these animals will ALWAYS have their wild instincts, we have around 20 servals at the sanctuary all of which are former "pets" that were unwanted when people realized what a huge mistake they had made. Have you ever thought about how savannah cats are bred, all of our servals would rather eat a domestic cat than mate with it.
BigCatRescue 11 months ago
@BigCatRescue More recently, they have been kept as pets in North America and Europe. Servals develop an intense emotional bond with their original owners. Often, they will choose one member of the human family they live with to form an especially close and intense bond. However, once they have bonded with a particular human family, servals do not easily accept new owners or surroundings, and they may become quite unhappy if separated or placed with other families.
MrScottishJamie 10 months ago
@BigCatRescue and they may become quite unhappy if separated or placed with other families. For this reason, anyone taking in a serval must be willing to house and keep the serval for its entire life
Recently, servals have been bred with the domestic cat to create a hybrid breed of domestic cat called the Savannah.
MrScottishJamie 10 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Yes more hybrid designer cats that people pay thousands for so they can feel special and unique, savannah cats still have wild instincts.
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
@BigCatRescue These animals tend to be smaller than the serval, but retain the markings and color of the serval. These animals are more tolerant of multiple owners, are more reliably litter trained, and tend to be more social with strangers. However, because the breeding can be difficult, the first generation (F1) animals tend to remain less common and quite expensive (as cat breeds go). Most states consider the product of a wild animal and a domestic cat to be a domestic cat,
MrScottishJamie 10 months ago
@BigCatRescue Most states consider the product of a wild animal and a domestic cat to be a domestic cat, and therefore regulations for owning these animals tend to be similar to owning any domestic cat this info is from Wikipedia not a breeder website .
MrScottishJamie 10 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Yes, this is another problem which results in the animals suffering when they are abandoned :(
BigCatRescue 10 months ago
@BigCatRescue i see u picked the selection of info that u wanted how very undemocratic with this comment pending iam not surprised i post other comments but u did not accept them why is that
MrScottishJamie 10 months ago
@MrScottishJamie No to mention all the earlier generations of savannah kittens that aren't wanted by the breeders what happens to them? A house is no substitute for animal that would roam miles and miles in the wild, this is abuse in itself to us, keeping them trapped in your home...
BigCatRescue 11 months ago
@BigCatRescue Ancient Egyptians did not only keep servals as wild pets but also to protect there grain . Servals were the first cat type cat . domestic cats to be wild . Servals r only bad if the breeder is bad they do need a lot of space same with savannahs . there is a difference between a wild cat and a wild big cat a wild big cat can kill you . Asian leopard cats and servals can be tame if bottle fed by the owner when they r young .
MrScottishJamie 10 months ago
@MrScottishJamie No wild species of cat will ever be tame, they protect ranges on average of 10 square miles in the wild!
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
@BigCatRescue domestic cats were wild once too... guess there werent no activists to stop them being domesticated back then.. oh dear!
drawmaster77 6 months ago
@BigCatRescue your cages r to small for a savannah that is animal cruelty . My cat is not trapped in my home my home is very large. Also by pulling a savannah cat away from its owner will turn the savannah feral . Servals Savannahs Bengals r highly attached to there owner in a dog way .
MrScottishJamie 10 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Our enclosures may appear small on videos but they are built in several sections in peanut shapes so they are stronger and we can close the animals off into other sections if we need to do any maintenance.
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
Can serval cats be house cats
AtemsLullaby 1 year ago
@AtemsLullaby The simple answer is no, they are a wild species of cat and no matter the size or what you do to "train" wild cat they will always have their instincts to spray everywhere and attack if they feel threatened or don't want to be played with etc... stick to domestic cats :)
BigCatRescue 11 months ago
Why are you TRYING to make the Serval out to be a DANGEROUS and AGGRESSIVE animal in which it is NOT! GOOGLE SERVAL ATTACK and you'll find NOTHING!!! They NEVER attack humans and of course an animal that hasn't been domesticated/tamed will "hiss" when SCARED because thats what YOU would be if anything BIGGER then you that you had never seen before approached. I'm all for Savannah cats and Servals. Maybe we should let Servals reach the endangered level like Tigers! They last 5 years in the wild!
TJscrilla 1 year ago
@TJscrilla Just because you don't find anything on google doesn't mean it hasn't happened before. All wild species of cats can be dangerous and aggressive this is a FACT, breeding servals and savannah cats doesn't help wild populations of servals, it just means more and more wild cats living miserable lives in captivity.
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
@BigCatRescue
I am a big fan of BigCatRescue, but let me ask this. How did domestication occur? Evolutionarily speaking, it was "because" we had these animals in captivity for thousands of years. Since we domesticated the dog, the cat, doesn't it stand to reason we "can", given enough geological time domesticate the serval?
theGroveMan 11 months ago
@theGroveMan There are many domestic cats that I know that are still very much wild. The question is just because we can try, should we? The answer is no, these cats will always retain their wild instincts no matter what we do or how long we try and domesticate them for, which will result in more unnecessary attacks and deaths ....
BigCatRescue 11 months ago
@BigCatRescue
I am sure that was the case when we began domesticating dogs (once wolves) and now look our relationship with them. Not to mention artificial selection and dog breeding.
theGroveMan 11 months ago
@theGroveMan Then I refer back to my previous point, just because we can try, should we? The answer is no we don not need "domestic" tigers to help us hunt or control the mouse population on our farms.
BigCatRescue 11 months ago
Ofcourse they should have conditions regarding to breeding etc.. but I think its overrated and not an issue... just create more knowledge to threat animals better domestic or wild, I think that's where you need to focus on!
humans have pets even wild pets since thousands of years and suddenly it is something cruel?
I really would like to have this savannah catbut yeah the prices are the thing even more cruel!
However I think you're privileged to work with these animals! good luck with that!
woutos 1 year ago
Hello,
First f all I think this whole organisation is handling correct business and I am not against your opinions but what about people getting crocs and snakes,.. its just as bad and the key difference is that a breed mixed from serval and domestic is created for people that really want a cat like this. They are breed to be handled at home..
Ever see a snake getting domestic?
Better the offspring than the original which should stay in the wild.
woutos 1 year ago
is it normal that so have a so tiny head?
but i like them :)
schneeschaaf 1 year ago
@schneeschaaf Yes, they are a strange looking cat but very efficient hunters!
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
OK... too clear it up... The more people capture or raise servals to make Savanah cats... Have you thought about where the parents are? With a pet as pricey as a Savannah cat...I'd think some servals would be bred in "Puppy-mill" fashion to have them or their babies sold top be bred. Your Savannah Cat can be awesome and the love of your life... but do you care HOW that Savannah cat came to be?... "Puppy mill" conditions, anyone?
AlienXCherie 1 year ago 30
@AlienXCherie Exactly, we're glad someone "gets it" THANK YOU !!
BigCatRescue 1 year ago 21
@AlienXCherie Any reputable breeder has a Serval on the premises. The cat is loved and cared for as any other feline in the breeding program. Any litter that comes from a puppymill or a pet shop is NOT sold by these reputable breeders. They take their responsibility very seriously and should be respected for their diligence in preserving the blood line.
valgal96v 1 year ago
@AlienXCherie no, there are only a few savanah cat breeders in the world because they are hard to breed. they are raised in a house like normal cats. i dont think savanah cats will ever become something bred in a puppy-mill like way. they are difficult to even breed in the first place and their offspring are usually sterile, so they wont be mass bred. look it up. there are savanah breeders online that can tell you what you are asking.
StrawberryMooses 7 months ago
Which breed of housecat was that with the orange spots?
JJack887 1 year ago
It's hard to believe that felines attack and kill eatch other
Goku7055 1 year ago
You guys should be on Animal Planet.
PlayStati0nP0rtable 1 year ago
a serval looks like a close link to a hyena
bringerovdeath 1 year ago
do servals and caracals compete?
cscate 1 year ago
@cscate In the wild they can compete for similar prey.
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
do the servals and caracals compete?
cscate 1 year ago
Just curious, have you guys ever challenged Animal Planet for their segment on the Savana Cat in Cats 101? They put in there that it can make a good pet if your are willing to take a "walk on the wild side" (I don't side with Animal Planet on this one).
sastov1681 1 year ago
@sastov1681 I was unaware of this?? But no we haven't we just do our best to educate where we can etc...
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
I like the Savannah cats and Savannahs have been caught co-habitating with the African Wild Cats which are where domestic Cats came from. A domestic can hold its own against a Serval. Some Savannah's are great pets and are actually being shown by cat fancier's. Welcome the Savannah Cat into the domestic cat species rather than villafying them. Oh and wild cats don't spray everywhere if they are fixed or female. Not to mention the entire cat family have the same bone structure & all vets know!!
kurtanglekobebryant 1 year ago
@kurtanglekobebryant We have all seen clips of savannah cats acting "domestic" but what about the previously bred generations, what happens to all these cats? This is the main problem these designer cats are being bred to sell to people who want to feel special and unique with no thought about the process. So many ares old to unsuspecting people who later find out how wild their savannah cats still are and then they are abandoned. Go rescue a true domestic cat and stop paying the breeders.
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
You say to help keep the serval wild when you just show images of them in cages?
Dipsomaniak 1 year ago
@Dipsomaniak Our cats have no alternative if we didn't rescue them and provide them with a home they would be in far worse conditions or dead. They cannot be released into the wild we wish it were that easy....
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
I love big cats but i agree that they should never be used as pets (even if they are a mix of wild cat and domesticated cat). They may at times seem tamed but you never know when their wild side will come out and cause major damage either to property or to people.
hijikata87 1 year ago
Loved the video made alot of sense but i myself still want a savannah cat for a pet but i know that probubly wont happen!
7eigor 1 year ago
I simply adore felines: cats. Tigers. Jaguars, leopards. Snow leopards, caracals, servals... But specially I adoooore lions :).
I wanted 2 pet a Sabannah kitty kat & all the big cats I discovered on T.V. & internet :). BUT when Ur love 4 them grows, Ur heart is theirs & then you love'em putting yourself on their shoes, & then it's not about your ego but their dignity & happiness :). B'cos U realise those big wildy cats need big wild natural places 2 have big & big mental & physical health :) ;).
75LEONidAs75 1 year ago
Why would you say its not recommended to have a Savannah as a pet?
No reason to spread lies and propaganda, just make the educational video and be done with it. Now you've lost all credibility by saying stupid things.
BarryMaurice 1 year ago
@BarryMaurice Because from our experience, dealing with abandoned savannah cats, it proves best for the owners and the animals to not own savannah cats, they still have wild instincts remaining, plus the process of breeding savannah cats just isn't right in our books.
BigCatRescue 1 year ago 2
@BigCatRescue If you have so much problems with abandoned savannah cats, why don't you just contact savannah cat rescue? They have a waiting list. BTW I don't own savannah cat, I don't breed cats, and my only cat is from a shelter. But I read a lot about savannahs, many sites and points of view, saw them at a cat show, even read owners' forum - I am thorough when I research something, and I saw so many lies, it changed my opinion about you. I respect your right to your opinion, but not lies.
jewelmarkess 1 year ago
@jewelmarkess Well done for not creating more domestic kittens when there are so many euthanized each month in shelters :) Like we've said some later generations of savannah cats appear to be kept as pets easily. But we're against the whole process of breeding them in the first place...what happens to all the savannahs that are not wanted? We are constantly working on rescuing many big cats, it's best to leave other organizations to focus on savannah rescues etc..
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
@BigCatRescue It also depends on where you are getting your info from on the web, of course all the breeders who make their living from breeding savannah cats are going to say their fine to be kept as pets etc... We aren't lying, it just turns into a case of they say this we say that and so on and so on....
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
@BigCatRescue I really don't know what to say. I've owned 2 bengals and 2 savannahs. Between me, my friends, and the few breeders I know and have interaction with their many many cats, I have honestly never come by a badly behaved savannah or bengal. In fact, I'll go a step further and say that the lower their number (f1 f2 f3 etc) the better of a cat it is with not only personality but general household activity. You can not compare a normal cat to a savannah....
BarryMaurice 1 year ago
@BarryMaurice you are right. i have a bengal sav cross and it is the love of my life, we play fetch everyday and despite what some say, she is a lap cat
thisgame2 1 year ago
@BigCatRescue ...a normal cat is lazy and pretty much worthless after 8-12 months as it just lays around, eats, and does nothing. A savannah is like a dog and if it isn't sleeping, it's playing. The personality of a savannah is that of a dog. It enjoys car rides, playing fetch, tug of war, playing in water, and even walking on a leash.
I've never owned a serval or an F1, I'm sure a serval would be a handful and I could see an F1 being a slight issue to deal with. But anything over an F2 is fine
BarryMaurice 1 year ago
@BarryMaurice Worthless ??!! we're more worried about the fact that ignorant people are profiting from breeding these hybrid cats to make money when so many are abandoned or unwanted when they revert back to their wild instincts. Especially when thousands and thousands of domestic cats that are true pets get euthanized each week in shelters :(
BigCatRescue 1 year ago 2
@BigCatRescue I feel bad about alley cats and the humane society. I give $20 a month to the humane society. Unfortunately a normal alley cat or even a normal full-breed cat simply can't compare to a Savannah. Savannah cats are insanely awesome. Their personalities, their energy, and their intelligence. I don't think I could ever go back to owning anything but a Savannah, they are just too awesome.
BarryMaurice 1 year ago
@BarryMaurice
If you want a wild-looking domestic cat, get an Ocicat. They have beautiful spots and an active and sociable temperament- all the pluses of Savannahs without the negatives that come along with the wild blood.
maximum411 1 year ago
@BigCatRescue i have a savannah and it is one of the most amazing things ive ever owned he is completely different then normal cat.... i completely agree with you in that you should support the shelters and all that but a savannah is as different froma normal cat as a dog is to a normal cat..... i highly suggest savannahs to anyone who is willing to spend time with them... they are the most amazing pets to own.....
mattecclestone 1 year ago
@BarryMaurice
like Bigcats said, Savannah's are man-made, they still have wild instincts that can harm a person, not to mention that Savannah's are larger than Maine Coon's.
13kumiko 1 year ago
This video is garbage. People act as if savannah cats are these abominations that are going to kill your children, when they can easily be as mild-tempered as any house cat. I say nurture trumps nature in that department. And as for Servals, you say yourself they are prime targets for poachers and trappers, so....having one as a pet would actually be beneficial to the Serval no?
DanSpaceEdot 1 year ago
@DanSpaceEdot Some are better than others, but the bottom line is that savannah cats shouldn't exist, they are man made, sold for thousands and most still have those wild instincts that makes them unsuitable "pets" Owning a serval would just fuel the exotic "pet" trade which means more captive bred cats will be sold to spend miserable lives living in backyards
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
@BigCatRescue Well, rather than attacking the exotic pet trade, in which not all owners are irresponsible; wouldn't it make more sense to rally for tighter regulations and more oversight for owners who do decide to adopt a wild cat? And saying savannah cats shouldn't exist would be the same as saying 99% of all domestic cats should not exist. The domestic cat was not a natural occurance. Wild cats were domesticated under much harsher conditions than in present times. Seems hypocritical to me.
DanSpaceEdot 1 year ago
@DanSpaceEdot All people who own wild species of cats or hybrids are responsible for fueling the exotic pet trade, if people didn't buy these cats the trade wouldn't be. Domesticating wild cats in the past can't be contrasted with savannah cat breeding which is purely for people who want a "designer pet" to make them feel special.
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
Savannahs have been around for quite some time and work fine as a domesticated cat. They don't attack humans and are more evenly tempered than their serval counterparts. Also, Servals have been kept as pets for centuries. Even though it's a wild cat, their primary food source is not large animals such as humans. They won't fall over on accident some day and crush someone, it's not going to happen. If there was a history of aggressive domesticated servals or savannahs I would be more worried.
mbr05c 1 year ago
@mbr05c I know humans have been attacked by servals in homes (children) servals have been kept by pets, but does this make it right to breed them for the exotic "pet" trade.....NO.
BigCatRescue 1 year ago 2
Servals hiss only when in danger . Hissing for affection is an abnormal behavior only manifested in captive breed or hybrids . Similar behavior can be seen in african wild cats meow only when calling kittens . semi domesticated ones meow for affection . In general small to medium cats rarely make a sound for fear of predation .
chunky1x 1 year ago 5
Servals hiss for warning in wild . Hissing for affection is manifested only in captive breed or semi domesticated one which is an abnormal behavior . Similar situation can be seen in african wild cats which only meows when calling kittens . Captive breed or Semi domesticated one meow for attention . Most wild cats (small to medium) rarely make any sound for fear of predation.
chunky1x 1 year ago 2
woah they have fast reflexes.
how did it catch that rat being thrown at it so well
orangedac 1 year ago
I really don't understand how delusional someone can be, to repeatedly call big cats experts idiots because they are so narrow minded enough to believe people who are creating something that goes against nature and are probably very cruel people to animals out of their natural habitats, is insane. Do you call yourself enemy of the state because your so paranoid that everythings against you? Or are you saying it to just piss people off? These people are trying to do good to the world
woofwoof40 1 year ago
see in part of this video you will see the servals ears up that hissing is not a "warning" hiss it is a welcome hiss but you see big cat rescue dont want you to know that they just say all hissing is a warning hiss witch is not true and they know that and when you bring the facts to the table they cancel your post
EnemyOfTheState1 1 year ago
@EnemyOfTheState1 Big Cat Rescue doesn't try to hide anything, from our experience working with servals (18 years) to the best of our knowledge servals hissing or any cat for that matter is a sign of hostility, we've never heard of cats hissing as a "welcome" as you put it. As there been scientific studies into hisses???!!!
BigCatRescue 1 year ago 10
@BigCatRescue As there been scientific studies into hisses???!!!
what?
dreamorigami 1 year ago
@dreamorigami this was just in response to the constant silly comments saying that servals hiss when as a welcome etc... which is obviously not the case :)
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
@BigCatRescue well not say ur wrong in any way but i do think that yall are just shooting the serval down cuz the ones yall have are kept in a cage. let me put u in a cage and see how u like it. now i have been around servals also but never have i been hissed at nor shown any sign of aggression.
IFIXUR360 1 year ago
@IFIXUR360 No we're not trying to give the serval a bad reputation, we're simply showing them for what they are, they are wild animals and shouldn't be owned and kept in someone's home. I know without a doubt after spending years working around these cats that they would much rather be in a natural enclosure outside and being left to do what they want to do, rather than being cooped up inside.
BigCatRescue 1 year ago 3
@EnemyOfTheState1 Apparently you really don't know very much about feline behaviour. Even in a domestic cat a hiss is not exactly a welcome - it means a variety of things from 'stay away' to 'leave me alone' to 'I'm really afraid', etc, etc, etc. You really need to get a clue - wild animals are NOT good pet material, you want a cool looking cat visit your local shelter and if you really want to test the theory of hissing being welcoming stick your finger in the first hissing cat's cage!
SuperKizzyCat 1 year ago
bigcatrescue get your facts right you know that when a serval hisses it does not always mean stay away or "warning" like what you say, and why dont you post all the comments that people write or post
EnemyOfTheState1 1 year ago
@EnemyOfTheState1 Like I've said for the tenth time, you are getting your "facts" from websites where people are breeding and selling these cats to make a living they will tell anyone anything in order to make money. I've worked around these cats for years and years so I know what I'm talking about. The reason I delete some comments is just a matter of not wasting time so I'm not responding to idiotic questions like yours all the time.
BigCatRescue 1 year ago 16
@BigCatRescue they are not idiotic when what you say about servals are wrong i talk to 2 other people at a zoo and a safari sanctuary witch does the same thing you do and they both told me that servals have 3 types of hissing ALL HISSING DOES NOT MEAN STAY WAY OR WARNING so get your facts right
EnemyOfTheState1 1 year ago
@EnemyOfTheState1
man give it up. bigcatrescue is doing good work.
who cares what hisses and what chirps. its irrelavant. you are obsessed about being right.
orangedac 1 year ago 3
i dont' know about all of that not being domesticated at all. we have an F5 that doesnt do any of this. she is a lap cat. so yes the less wild they have in them the less prone to wild habits...correct?
mrhazel 1 year ago
If you want and exotic cat set a live trap near a wild cat colony, trap a cat, bring it home, and let it loose in your house.....WEEEEE!
Then spend 6 months gaining it's trust and teaching it to use the litter box (plus replacing your drapes, carpet, and other broken family air looms).
Now you have your "wild and exotic pet" and you helped reduce the stray population.
equarg 1 year ago