Top VGM - Cave Story - Moonsong

[Zeightix]

Story, You guys want to debate about story?

Hah..hahahah..hahahahahahah

I see your Cave Story, and your FF7

and i raise you one BASTION

your move noobs...your move

[anonomous1324]

@Zeightix

Actually, I think why people bash on Cave Story's ... Story, (sometimes Bastion's too), is because their basic stories are rather simple (certainly not bad, mind you, I think they're great).

Where these games excel in is presentation. (A complex concept which I believe trolls and haters are incapable of comprehending)

In Bastion, as you play, the story of how the world went so wrong is slowly revealed to you, while at the same time, you are coming closer and closer to setting...

[anonomous1324]

@Zeightix

... things right.

In Cave Story, it begins as a simple game with apparently little to no background or plot other than 'shoot everything other than you or the non-hostile NPC's,' but expands into a greater, more complex plot (with more background details being revealed if you go for the best ending).

I cannot speak for FFVII, as I have not yet played it.

[zepalom]

@Zeightix ahh I want to play that game badly. it's on my longass list of "shit I need to fucking play"

[CronoManiac42]

This is my favorite part of the game. It just feels so perfect.

[TheRidley21]

@InBloom You're just bashing on FF7 because it is indeed overrated. In fact, that's why BOTH the top comments are bashing on it. I like both stories to great extent and see no reason to divide into war over this. Also, "Nowadays" isn't entirely accurate, FF7 is over a decade old. While I respect your opinion, I think you're letting your contempt get ahead of you a little bit.

[TMGRskat]

I mean I MEAN songs. Jeez i gotta fix everything! :3

[TMGRskat]

I meant songs.

[TMGRskat]

Well, I actually didn't like it, but one day the 0:46 part was stuck into my head for the whole day. So i started to like it. now it's one of my favorite song. :3

[13lace]

I dunno about you guys, but I downloaded this on PC and even on my PSP. I don't even mind replaying parts of the game I already experienced either.

[Th3Skull3r]

Look what happens to the pleasant comments section of a great game like this when you bring up FF7....

....just don't. never again. though since it's being brought up, FF6 had a million times better story characters than 7, and would be a far better basis for comparison with cave story.

[Ultrasyther1]

someone saved their polar star for the whole game (Spoilers: you)

[Bluerage98]

@Ultrasyther1 If you didn't get the Spur you're clearly doing something wrong. :)

[Ultrasyther1]

@Bluerage98 It only took doing the whole game over again! for me...

[Bluerage98]

@Ultrasyther1 I actually restarted it 3 times. The first time I didn't want the normal ending, so I went back and redid it. But I accidentally talked to professor booster and he died. SO I had to restart yet again, and here I am procrastinating on beating hell.

[Ultrasyther1]

@Bluerage98 I only did it twice. I had to do hell over like literally 42 times and after the 20th I procrastinated for a month, and then I played it, when I finally beat it, I was like YES!!! ...then I went back a week later and did like twice as good. Though its kinda weird to procrastinate from VIDEOGAMES.

[Bluerage98]

@Ultrasyther1 I know that feel. I still have yet to beat windwaker... >.>

[Ultrasyther1]

@Bluerage98 I have this problem where I will get to the final boss then stop playing, and Im like "I gotta beat him, I have to finish this game!"... and then return to it 2 years later and beat it

[Bluerage98]

@Ultrasyther1 Wow, that's exactly what I am doing right now with like, half the games I started including cave story.

[Ultrasyther1]

@Bluerage98 oh I technically did it 3 times because I wanted to do it again for fun

[Bluerage98]

@Bluerage98 It is simply an amazing game, so it didn't bother me too much ya know?

[SoLinkSmash]

Why is everyone talking about FF7? This is CAVE STORY. Enjoy the music.

[Ninjastyle124]

For bosses, I liked Curly's gun or King's sword. King's sword did a god-send for me :D

[frankytap]

The fire weapon was THE best! ^^

[impregnent]

"You were never seen again..."

I laughed the first time I saw that xD

I wad just kinda like, "...Damn..."

[Zexion72559]

lol ghost cat shooting sperm XD

[thecakeofdestiny]

This song made me think of a 3D version of the Quote flying around fighting a bunch of giant space ships. You may now point and laugh.

[genowhril809]

a priceless piece of music.

[Samuraishell]

Why are people comparing FF7, and cave story? They are two completely different games.

[Amouero]

FF7 was a great game, but if you think that its because of its story - Then you need to recheck your nostalgia glasses. The story gets all kind of loony near the end with the clone non-senses.

[ATOGAMESJ]

@Amouero ...

[NamoNakamura]

In my honest opinion, this song is overrated. There are lots of better tracks in Cave Story, like Running Hell, White, Geothermal...

[SuperNintendoGameboy]

Cave Story is considered one of the best if not THE best freeware PC games that you will ever play and Thank God it's on WiiWare too!

[Tekwerk]

Oh dumbass me has to learn how to read the description...

[wareya]

What's up blatantly uneducated and hypocritical youtube video comments?

[Removes]

The usual, jeeves.

[SCRuner5h]

I'd really really want to hear this thing orchestrated. Starting off very quietly, and them building and building until you've got a great majestic brass section for the melody, and violins/violas/cellos playing the harmony, and possibly some voices in the Halo style...

I'd go to that concert. On the other hand, there is something magical about the sound of the low-quality synthesizers making this beautiful melody.

[RemiusTheAwesome]

@SCRuner5h

Its because usually, people who re-arrange this song seem to completely ignore what makes it so amazing. Its a very to-the-point and mellow melody, but has a really really great buildup. Most people try to overdo everything in the song and take forever to get to the buildup, and it just doesn't do so well.

Its just not really a song that can be messed with too much the way its written, i think. It only really has one or two changes in the song.

[SCRuner5h]

@RemiusTheAwesome

I've noticed. The Cave Story remix project sort of messed up with "Mimiga Vibe", which really didn't capture this song much at all. It's just such a song.

[MonParii]

As for FF7: it wasn't really hyped. It was the series of games AFTER FF7 that have been hyped and over credited and then the fans that state that FF7 was the best just because everyone else said so.

However, this game is unrelated, seperate from any sort of series, and made by ONE PERSON!! I'd say it's pretty good considering.

[Quetzocotol]

This is a contender for one of my favorite games of all time, and that's mostly because of the story.

[dafrandle]

is this DC lp

[GrandBurrito]

This game was made by someone who loves video games. I can see that because he made a really awesome one.

[UltiMario1337]

I love this game so much...

[lnBloom]

Why the HELL are people saying the story sucks? It's a hell of a lot better than games that are considered to have good storylines nowadays. (FF7, anyone?) You're forgetting that there's more to a story than the ending, people.

[illBeRoy]

I tend to agree with the "it isn't the destination, it's how you get there" in some cases, but in Cave Story's, it isn't just that "how you get there", the destination is different as well: The Doctor is no longer the arch villian of the game, but Ballos is.

Curly's death is, then, indeed a twist in the story.. For it could change it to the whole.

[Cloaytonem2]

FF7 was overhyped.

plus you gotta consider the fact that this is a FREEWARE game, unlike those big titles. this was the best freeware game ever, so it deserved to be on WiiWare.

[RemiusTheAwesome]

@Cloaytonem2 Look people, FF7 was NOT overhyped. The game came out like 13 years ago, if anything the word is Overrated.

However, the thing is the game wasn't overrated. It was fucking brilliant in its own regard. You can nitpick at the storyline all you want, point is FF7 delivered its story so damn well that its still regarded as one of the best games on the planet.

Its just like Cavestory. The story is only the base -- its what you DO with the story that makes it a memorable one.

[RemiusTheAwesome]

Im just tired of FF7 getting this undying hatred for being a good ass game. I mean im sick of the spinoffs too, but it doesn't detract from the original. For someone to call FF7's story bad, or the game itself anything that it doesn't deserve is, frankly, just delusional.

It may not be the BEST GAME EVER but it sure as fuck comes close IMO. No other Final Fantasy has achieved the amount of emotion FF7 has. (although i must say, Final Fantasy X came DAMN close. )

[DoomsdayOdd]

@RemiusTheAwesome you fucking fanboy.

it is overrated. the gameplay is inferior to FF6, the story to FF9, the Music to FF1, the emotional aspect is... inferior to Barkley Shut up and jam gaiden. that is an RPG about basketball, and it is more emotional than FF7. you are a jaded dumbass.

but the main reason I hate FF7 is that it launched visuals over content phase of games we are currently in.

that is unforgivable.

[Exesta]

@Cloaytonem2 and made by "ONE MAN" thats an amazing feat

[ArceusShaymin]

@Exesta Well, technically one man, but actually, it was like, 4 or 5 people.

[Patcheresu]

@Cloaytonem2 I fully support this statement.

[TroutAmbush]

Final Fantasies have either extremely good storylines (FFX) or extremely bad storylines (FF7). It's not really fair to say it's as good as FF as a whole, since each one is different.

[Shinkada]

The only FF to come close to a good plot was X, and even that was terrible because they had some weird compulsion to ruin the big twists (the most important part of any storyline) well before they even happened.

Also terrible, unoriginal, undeveloped characters (second most important part).

[MalcolmPauze]

exactly, my personal faveorite is FF4, but I'm not going to have this really crappy argument about which one is better, 'cause I know that 4 is my favourite no matter what

[ROCK1337ful]

@lnBloom its been a while since we have had a game this good. am I right??? FF7's story will never be topped "probably" but this game its as fricken amazing as FF7 in my oppinion.

[Mizugorou13]

@ROCK1337ful

>>Implying FF7 had a good story

[ATOGAMESJ]

@lnBloom FF7 Had a good story, Minimalism-Fags just can't understand:They don't like to think.

[Conor316]

@ATOGAMESJ Final fantasy 7 has some pretty big plot holes, like Cloud being recognized by the president of Shinra, despite the fact that

*SPOILER* Cloud was never actually a part of SOLDIER *SPOILER*

[DoomsdayOdd]

@ATOGAMESJ minamalism preference by no means equals not wanting to think. its just some games don't realise that to make us think you need to have a fifty hour long incomprehensible mess of a plot to get its point across (EVERY final fantasy, EVERY MGS game, pretentious games) in cave story, you have likable characters go through conflict while everything is told to you in an interesting yet COHERENT manner, with happy scenes, sad scenes, and awesome scenes. FF7 however, is just a bad story.

[ATOGAMESJ]

@DoomsdayOdd In games like Final fantasy, if you don't pay attention you make "your own" plot holes.

Referring to the robots that need their hand held all though the game or they will lose interest and quit.

Nothing against Cave story, it's pretty good for a one man show.

@ArceusShaymin yes. one guy. get it right.

Contractors don't count professionally.

[DoomsdayOdd]

@ATOGAMESJ when I think about a plot, I don't want to think "ok... so what exactly just happened?" or "so how exactly does that weird soul...thing work? it wasn't obivously explained" that is my definition of a bad, unmemorable plot.

Indeed, the best plot for me is one that has deep meanings -metaphors for real life things (not destiny), zero plot holes even to an idiot playing it, and likable characters, which FF7 drops on all three accounts.

and fuck sephiroth. worst villain ever.

[AaronMichaelWomack]

@lnBloom even the ending is amazing if you get the best one. hell, even the bad ending still blew my mind.

[Bidon45]

@lnBloom whats wrong with FF7s story?

[Removes]

Game was excellent and I only just recently played it.

[Shinkada]

God this game is overrated. It's just a generic platformer. =/ I've played tons of games this generation far better than it.

Still. This is a very nice song. Just wish people would stop crooning over this title so much.

[WilliamPaton7]

this game is no generic platformer. yes it does seem like mega man and meteroid, but it has a great story, multiple endings/events a ton of awesome items and to top it all off, it was made by one man.

[Shinkada]

-Great story... How? A boss with nearly no back story behind him, and an optional boss with only slightly more. No major twists (Curly dying doesn't count because this is avoidable and obviously intended to be the 'true' ending). Multiple endings was hardly something unique in the platformer days, nor is it now.

It's impressive that it was made by one person, but that's just a show of tenacity. While admirable, tenacity doesn't guarantee an amazing game. Cave Story was -good-. Not incredible.

[WilliamPaton7]

you got me there, but I think it is a great game because of the memories, nostalgia, and the great feeling you get when you play it. I am willing to leave it at that.

[illBeRoy]

Can't agree with you less about Curly's death.

The fact you can control the evolving of the story is one of the factors that made this game so brilliant.

Great game, great song, one of my favorite tracks off the OST.

[Shinkada]

Game plot twists where someone dies and can then be brought back to life is a staple of bad storylines. All's it says is that the writer wanted to do something unpredictable (a commendable desire, I suppose) but didn't have the brains to do something original, or the balls to do something tragic that would actually last.

[illBeRoy]

Well, I actually see that as a "what if" game. Quiet obvious it is that if you play the game for the first time, without any knowledge about it nor guides, Curly will most likely die, you'll never get to know Ballos' story and the undead core will, indeed, be the last boss.

But once you play it again and pay attention to the signs, you will see the alternate ending, the "what if curly stayed alive", you will then understand whatever was foggy and unclear before.

[Cloaytonem2]

Curly Brace was a robot. It can happen.

[Bayc0n]

I don't think you have a soul, sir.

Cave Story is possibly the most instantly fun game I've ever played, and even if the story isn't to your liking (if it isn't, oh well) then you can't discount the great atmosphere and gameplay. Cave Story is possibly my favourite platformer ever, it feels so fantastic to play.

[Shinkada]

Perhaps I don't, but Cave Story's story was far too simplistic and predictable, like most plots. The bosses ran from creative to dull and done, as did the stages. There were a good number of secrets though, and the music did a nice range from background to pretty.

I'm not saying it's bad. It was a very well made game, and it was fun to play. All's I'm saying is that it's as overhyped as all hell since most of its fans are fanatic. The plot, in particular.

[MimigaJoe]

I think people are more captivated by the characters than the plot (or at least, that's how I am). I agree that, objectively speaking, the plot is nothing special, but the great characters really made it shine. Sue, King, Toroko, Balrog, Curly... the list goes on. I really grew attached to them all throughout the game, and they're the reason I love the plot.

Also, the setting, characters, and music make it feel like a Miyazaki film to me for some reason, which is another reason I love it.

[xXFireXx]

I agree, the story is predictable, but most games these days seem to be. I tend to ignore the fact that you know the ending from the start, and just enjoy the same great story that people have been using since the beginning. Although, one thing about cave story that other games this generation doesn't have. Playtime, a lot of games (EX: Bioshock, and Infinite Discovery) in this generation, I can beat within one day. Cave story lasted longer than that for me, mainly because of speedruns in hell.

[Shinkada]

Hahah. That's what I usually have to do, but I still complain about it in between. Besides, not all games do it... A few have had generally creative plots, eg Disgaea 2, Shadow Hearts Covenant, etc.

This generation has been really bad for play time, yeah. The PS2 generation was still great though. Got 80-140+ hours out of most good PS2 RPG's, and even games like Mirror's Edge and Resident Evil 5 gave me tons of replay time with speedruns/achievements.

[CheckerboardWolf]

this game has unpredictable endings.{yes endingS!} depending what you do during the game and how you do it...the ending will be differnt......so its always intersting to keep playing it over and over differntly and see what happens..

thats why this game is awesome!

[lnBloom]

God I can't wait for Cave Story to come out for WiiWare...

[KrackosStorm]

No way It's coming out on wiiware

[oofoe]

no, it is. Pixel's involved... it'll be out in like a month.

[KrackosStorm]

Sweet.Next thing ya know I wanna be the Guy is gonna come out on wiiware of a game with a kitty.

[oofoe]

hey, I'd buy it. XD

[KrackosStorm]

Imma buyin' cave story on wiiware when it comes out god I'd love it it I Wanna Be The Guy and A game with a Kitty 1 & 2 came out on wiiware

[yoshifan3000]

Funny. When I saw "Cave Story for Wiiware" my next thought was "I hope I Wanna Be The Guy comes to Wiiware!" But it needs a lot of copyright... problems.

[boodist32]

yea the that would be the biggest copyright mess of all time xD

[Webwaft]

Terrific game, really enjoyed it. It says something about games today that this is the only game i've played recently which i've really, really enjoyed.

[madmuffinz]

Someone isn't going to get the real ending.

[clov56]

pretty cool song.  Never heard of the game.

[mzxrules]

you should definitely google it and play it. And after you beat it, find a walkthrough for the hard quest and beat it again.

[n8phin]

You need to play the game.

NEED to.

[bobbafede]

when i was playing the game and the guy said

u wanna leave on my dragon?

i said no because i was like

"ZOMG NOES I GUTTA SAVE WOARLD"

the music gave me inspiration lolz

[Transpacity]

The baseline to this song rocks.

[ShadowVoodoo43]

I agree with sparky. U SIR ARE AWESOME

[Atsanac]

You sir are awesome for having this song in your top.

[linsparky]

I agree, this BGM is awesome. And I do think Cave Story is the best PC platform 2D sidescrolling freeware game.

[Exarian]

I think it can top some wider categories than that

[aldaadla]

"best shooter w/o blood lulz