a valid point... i am not educated enough about the issue to make a judgement but with limited knowledge I would have to say it probably wasn't a good idea. But do you think they're the same? I feel like it's the US attacking afghanistan compared to the Taliban attacking the world trade. Are they the same?
Without a single doubt. Don't you? Massive bombing of a civilian population by a major military power vs. random suicide bombings by an occupied and oppressed peoples?
What is your background? You say it is like natives killing settlers back in the day. I disagree, I think it is like Natives killing North Americans today. I think that would be the same. I think a major difference is if Israel stopped attacking the palestinians, the Palestinians would still kill Israelis. If the Palestinians stopped, the Israelis would surely stop.
And the Israelis just leaving is not a viable option. So what would you have Israel do.
All the territories added by Israel via and since the Six Day War. I think even the displaced Palis accept the existence of the Israel created in 1948 -- although many may not like the idea.
do you think if Israel gave back all that land, the palestinians would stop suicide bombing? The whole point is that Hamas doesn't recognize the existence of the state of Israel.
LOL, no they oppose zionist terrorism worldwide and recognise the fact that 'normal' people are waking up to the fact that the so called war on terror is orchestrated by zionist jews for their own ends.
I'm British and Israel is no friend of my nation, hanging our soldiers in the orange groves was only 60 years ago and enough of us remember to not give a flying fuck if Israel fails as a state.
Do they oppose Palestinian Suicide Bombing? Can you really condemn an entire nation for a small militant group of them hanging three british soldiers, not 60, but actually 70 years ago. None of us were alive then, and none of the people who did that are still alive.
What right do the zionists have to demand their own country in the middle of an already occupied land?
Because they are the chosen people??
At least some Jewish people are waking up to the state sponsored terror that is endorsed by zionists and that all that oppose her and her will are simply stamped on. This will only continue as long as israel has US backing.
Hopefully Obama will free the US from their zionist shackles and kick them into touch.
You can bet your last pound/dollar though, that if he even tried, the zionists would dispense of him via the convenient bullet of some nazi or perhaps iranian to allow them to manipulate further world politics to suit their own ends.
Naomi Klein, you are 100 % correct - she is a true Jewish heroine who has no qualms about speaking the truth about the horrible Israeli persecution of the Palestinians. I hope she continues to speak and speak and garner attention to the harsh truth.
Did they support the carpet bombing of Lebanon in 2006?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
a valid point... i am not educated enough about the issue to make a judgement but with limited knowledge I would have to say it probably wasn't a good idea. But do you think they're the same? I feel like it's the US attacking afghanistan compared to the Taliban attacking the world trade. Are they the same?
trickofdisaster2 3 years ago
Not a good idea? It was a crime against humanity.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
do you also consider palestinian suicide bombings a crime against humanity?
trickofdisaster2 3 years ago
No more than Native americans killing white settlers in 18th and 19th century America.
An inevitable response to occupation and oppression.
Evil and wrong -- yes. To the level of being a crime against humanity -- no.
oldjoe5 3 years ago 2
so you believe that Israel bombing lebanon is worse than Palestinian suicide bombings
trickofdisaster2 3 years ago
Without a single doubt. Don't you? Massive bombing of a civilian population by a major military power vs. random suicide bombings by an occupied and oppressed peoples?
oldjoe5 3 years ago 3
What is your background? You say it is like natives killing settlers back in the day. I disagree, I think it is like Natives killing North Americans today. I think that would be the same. I think a major difference is if Israel stopped attacking the palestinians, the Palestinians would still kill Israelis. If the Palestinians stopped, the Israelis would surely stop.
And the Israelis just leaving is not a viable option. So what would you have Israel do.
trickofdisaster2 3 years ago
You do see that israel is the occupying power and the oppressor in the occupied territories?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
are you specifically talking about Gaza and the West Bank or all of Israel?
trickofdisaster2 3 years ago
All the territories added by Israel via and since the Six Day War. I think even the displaced Palis accept the existence of the Israel created in 1948 -- although many may not like the idea.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
do you think if Israel gave back all that land, the palestinians would stop suicide bombing? The whole point is that Hamas doesn't recognize the existence of the state of Israel.
trickofdisaster2 3 years ago
Yes they would.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
not only tourism...lets NOT forget the KOSHER TAX that they have provided for the american consumers for israel.( approx. $340,000,000 per year.)
hevidt 3 years ago
LOL, no they oppose zionist terrorism worldwide and recognise the fact that 'normal' people are waking up to the fact that the so called war on terror is orchestrated by zionist jews for their own ends.
I'm British and Israel is no friend of my nation, hanging our soldiers in the orange groves was only 60 years ago and enough of us remember to not give a flying fuck if Israel fails as a state.
ianh321 3 years ago
Do they oppose Palestinian Suicide Bombing? Can you really condemn an entire nation for a small militant group of them hanging three british soldiers, not 60, but actually 70 years ago. None of us were alive then, and none of the people who did that are still alive.
trickofdisaster2 3 years ago
What right do the zionists have to demand their own country in the middle of an already occupied land?
Because they are the chosen people??
At least some Jewish people are waking up to the state sponsored terror that is endorsed by zionists and that all that oppose her and her will are simply stamped on. This will only continue as long as israel has US backing.
Hopefully Obama will free the US from their zionist shackles and kick them into touch.
ianh321 3 years ago 2
You can bet your last pound/dollar though, that if he even tried, the zionists would dispense of him via the convenient bullet of some nazi or perhaps iranian to allow them to manipulate further world politics to suit their own ends.
ianh321 3 years ago
amusing how many non-Israelis are experts on Israel.
newproject555 3 years ago
Naomi Klein is not only correct, but she is morally just.
Just thumbs down that idiot Whoo69 below-remember don't feed the trolls.
mosfonotoc 3 years ago
Naomi Klein, you are 100 % correct - she is a true Jewish heroine who has no qualms about speaking the truth about the horrible Israeli persecution of the Palestinians. I hope she continues to speak and speak and garner attention to the harsh truth.
suhailshafi 3 years ago