Nice moves, though I find hard to understand the need for other belt colors besides white (for 10th kyu), green (for 9th to 1st kyu) and black (shodan and beyond).
About the "blablabla coreographed moves", all I have to say is that about all the bujinkan videos you're gonna find here on youtube will be coreographed. Whoever, I hope you don't think that these demonstration videos actually show the full content of bujinkan's training system.
@chooky85 the instructor at Campbelltown is Andy, he has loads of years training and security work experience so well worth it. It's a small class so you will get plenty of personal assistance. Call 0420 546 317 to get his contact details as I gather they are changing venue at the moment.
@9mm034 that's a silly question, it can take some people more years than others to get a black belt in Ninjutsu, it's not judged on how long you have been training for, its judged on the amount of time, effort, commitment and hard work you put into it, and also some black belts are not as skilled as some Brown belts, or possibly lower
@bannanamicallef I’m 17 and I think I’m the youngest member training in proper classes with Ed’s bujinkan school in Adelaide. However, on fridays and some other nights during the week there are kids classes.
Correct, this was not rehearsed at all, I was casually capturing shots with the Steadicam during a class. It was extremely unfortunate I missed a freak shot when Ed kicked the knife out of Ben's hand sending it flying in the air; Ed actually caught it and then thrust it towards his neck. Amazing!!
It's not choreographed, but it is tightly edited. This clip is of Ed teaching in his dojo in Adelaide. He's living in Japan at the moment so you won't see him if you visit his dojo, but I can almost guarantee he'll be at all the soke classes and you'll probably see him at quite a few classes of the shitenno.
@RenzitoARG None of this is coreographed…at all. And after you meet Ed you become pretty fucking certain he’s do just fine in a real fight. This is just him demonstrating techniques at half-speed for the sake of the class who have to copy them exactly.
I'm recently 16, and while I've been interested in taking up a martial art for a while, I never got around to it. Would it be too late to start ninjutsu at this stage?
I like this better than karate, not really because of the difficulty, but because of the style. If I had the choice, I'd take lessons for this. This owns!
@connorbcfc1875 Ninjutsu is all about being effective. Mainly the techniques are counter-strikes, but all are relevant and applicable to real combat situations. However, it ultimately isn’t the art, it’s the fighter. Don’t go around looking for the perfect martial art.
would it be stupid to go straight into Ninjutsu? ive never done a martial art but im only really interested in this one, i dont really like Judo silat Muay Thai and the others
i do kyokushin karate im 13 and im 4th kyu( green belt black tip) going for 3rd kyu( brown belt) sometime mid next year i was wondering if any one thinks if it would be a good or bad idea for me to start training in a form of ninjutsu,i mean i first started karate because i liked ninjutsu when i was younger and i dont no if i shuld...
the knives are either wooden or hardened plastic as real knives are very sharp as we all know given recent events in adelaide,as regards to karate comparasons no disrespect to karate is more kata based traditionally wheres nin is more footwork orientated.Train hard in whatever style you do and remember its an extremely violent world we live so be careful peace and harmony to all ona gai shimas
well the place i train at uses fake weapons or 'training' weapons but now and then the sensei may bring out a proper katana or something else... it depends.
you cant really compare martial arts on how hard they are, each has their differences nd places where they could be harder than another.
The fact that you would submit such a ludicrious statement demonstrates perfectly your level of ignorance. Just for the sake of a good laugh, I'd love to hear what your opinion of ninjutsu really is.
judo is designed as a sport, ju.. do the gentle way, not jutsu as in combat. judo is jujutsu with the nasty, bits taken out somewhat, your talking crap unfortunately
Judo is Jujutsu that can actually be applied on a fully resisting opponent. It is in itself a highly effective self-defensive martial art, and when combined with a striking art, is far superior in that sense to traditional Jujutsu.
Judo does not go through the same training as jitsu it is one on one grappling, Jitsu however defends against a mixture of grappling, striking, armed and multiple opponents with pressure testing and so forth if yr opponent is not resisting it is yr uke that is the problem not the art. Yes Judo can be applied as self defense but that is not its purpose and when it is used as self-defense it would be called some form of jitsu or aikido e.t.c.
ufc is of course a sport, but mma isnt. if one chooses to mix martial arts it doesnt mean he/she is doing it for sport, but loading their arsenal of techniques. imho it seems that ninjutsu seems to be an mma in itself. it combines different aspects of combat in one art, so that students do not have to learn several arts to be proficient in multiple aspects of combat.
It is very childish to reduce every video thread to a MMA discussion. If you need lots of belts and encouragement and competition and trophies... combat arts are not for you. If you want to learn how to move, think, adapt, etc, then give a combat art like taijutsu a try. This type of training is not for everyone, and it appears from watching Shihan Ed Lomax that these students sacrifice some comfort for the sake of realism.
@negativeionz0 Speaking as one of Ed’s students, we do sacrifice comfort for realism. Ed is a great teacher of ninpo taijutsu. I trained in 2 other martial arts prior to bujinkan, have a black-belt in one of them (after 6 yrs of training), and can honestly say that ninjutsu is one of the least pretentious martial arts out there. There is very little focus placed on grades and titles, and more focus on personal development and attitude.
@negativeionz0 you call this realism - but in Judo or JKD, the moves are practiced against RESISTING opponents. You have ZERO logic if you tell me that practicing against resisting opponents who are competent in your art is less effective than slowly practicing moves.
If I know judo, I can slam you or have a higher chance of slamming you. You practice slow moves and they DON'T increase your chances because you don't even know if they work. Its THEORY.
kestekit is correct in the style ninjutsu which i take their are no rules like in tai kown do(or w/e it is) or jutsu. in ninjutsu its what ever can go GOES!!
sport is when you are competing and have a strict manner of competing - boxing is a prime example. when someone attacks you out of nowhere unexpectantly then you down them as fast as you can... ninjustsu teachs you to disarm and/or neutralise your opponent NOT by any means necessary but by strict technique which is minimalistic in terms of energy use.
good example: watch the grandmaster dr maskaki hatsumi, who is pushing almost 80 years old, take down 20 year olds with no effort at all.
yes my name is mathew steel. im 4th dan Bujinkan. i have trained a few times under Ed, hi Ed. our dojo is at 14 Seaside Parade, North shore. ph 0416 518 855. we are opposite north shore station.
Please don't mislead people into thinking that meeting Ed and training under him are the same thing, especially when you didn't even listen to a word he said. Self promotion like this is a load of rubbish and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Personally I would prefer to train less often and head into Melbourne as much as possible to train with qualified shidoshi such as Tim Bathurst and Craig Guest.
i think that you have the wrong person. 1)i have trained with ed in adelaide 2 times and once at the oz tai kai. once with scott & once with another black belt. a few times thats all. 2) i listened very carefully to what ed said to me, and i changed my training to suit. 3) i have trained over 250 times with craig guest, & contiue to do so, even trained there last night. 4) what self promotion??? someone asked if there was a school here and i only introduced myself. i also trained 10 weeks in
japan last year over two trips, and continue to train with other instructors that are more highly skilled that myself. i think that you must have the wrong person... and this is getting way off topic, & i dont want to start a fight here. i will not be replying to this anymore, as this is about ed's video, not about my school etc.
Oops, sorry! My mistake, I thought you were the Matthew Steel who came to Eds dojo a couple of years back asking for your 1st dan (even though you wore a black belt to training). Done alot of training since then I guess...I hope at least you have a shidoshi-ho licence then since you are teaching?
My cousin has her black belt under Stephen K. Hayes himself. I'm starting up at quest in here very soon, I'm lucky enough to have him 2 minutes up the road...Dayton, Ohio.
I train in cincinnati, you have the opertunity to be able to train in Bujinkan and Stephen K Hayes Toshindo. Not 15 minutes from each other as well. They have subtle diffrences, but Jeffs classes in dayton are great as well as Hayes, My friend in the bujinakn knows his daughter, marrissa
A UFC fighter would never fight someone trained in Bujinkan Ninjutsu, for the simple reason that Bujinkan Ninjutsu is one of the only remaining Martial Arts that teaches no rules fighting.
Any part of the body is an acceptable target, not like these fruits in UFC who want rules against neck and groin strikes, and rules against manipulation of small digits on the body.
Do you think that the elite fighters in the UFC would fight the same way on the street in a real situation...they would be lethal too. You couldn't really allow throat strikes, spine strikes, digit snapping etc in the ring because eventually there would be no-one left to fight. All sport today is about money. Therefore you must protect your commodity.
UFC is a knockout tournament though, not a killing competition. Ninjutsu is NOT UFC, don't even compare them. UFC is mixed martials arts and hand-to-hand combat for the sole purpose of downing the oppponent. Ninjutsu is more disarming and disabling combat. It originated from Japan when they resisted the samurai dynasties and fought against them to disarm them and either kill or capture them. They don't teach the killing strikes publicly, although it's not hard to find out from the internet...
UFC is knockout though, not kill strikes. and as a sport they wouldnt allow physically disabling an opponent. and if you're stupid enough to fight a UFC fighter in the street you deserve whatever you get dealt
just so you know, a UFC fighter tried one of theese guys, he was locked in a death'grip in a few seconds, ofc the UFC fighter thought he could just roll himself out of the death'grip, and he got a neck-injury...
So yea, i would love to see something like that on tape ;)
As a matter of fact, a lot of the techniques in the Bujinkan are outlawed by UFC. Gouges, holding clothing, small joint manipulation, nerve strikes, even "timidity". When we train, all of these come into play, and yes, they really hurt. I'm sure that a budoka could easily hold his own against a UFC fighter, at least long enough to injure him and get away.
Seems like a pointless thing to argue about. While I agree with the spirit of your assertion, it only takes one mistake to nigh predetermine the winner of a fight and anyone can make mistakes. That is why we train. So that our mistakes will not be our last.
Another UFC fanboi troll. Bujinkan is tried and tested for real-life confrontations. UFC is a rule-governed playground. My hard earned money is on ninjutsu over any of the steroid-pumped pretenders in the UFC.
Is the Bunjinkan the only authentic ninjutsu school around? I'm sure there are others that've come from other clans but just don't advertise themselves.
yes i asked my trainer and he says that bujinkan budo means "to stop war" because that is what part of the martial art is about to prevent war not to make, the only true victory is to prevent any fight happening ;) and Dojo means training hall :)
bujinkan can be roughly translated as "warrior spirit training hall". To translate it as "to stop war" is quite off literally, but not far from the ethics of the Bujinkan. However the days when we got actively involved in such things are long gone.
Bujinkan claims to be the world authority on Ninjutsu as it was inherited by Masaaski Hatsumi Sensei. Others are Genbukan and Jinenkan and BBD I think
these other groups you refer to are from students of the Bujinkan that quit. eg BBD - Irish ex-shidoshi Brian MacCarthy (was 8th dan which is below shihan in Bujinkan), Genbukan from Japanese ex-student Tanemura (also was 8th dan in Bujinkan), and Jinenkan by Japanese ex-student Manaka (was 10th dan which is first of the shihan/master ranks in Bujinkan).
its not even the techniques, its the way of moving that this art teaches you that allows you to use it in any situation, brilliant :). was at a seminar by Pedro Fleitas gonzalez in ireland this weekend really enjoyed it, some lads from the Atlanta dojo had sayings on their tee shirts like " if you die , we split your gear"
I'm starting tonight at the Hombu dojo in South Africa, One of the best dojo's around. I like reading the positive comments about Bujinkan. and I agree with zuser, with the right technique you could take out anyone.
At the higher levels of achievement I think 4th dan you develop a deeper sense of your surroundings and become able to sense attacks
Yeah after all Ninjutsu is self defence. That way it doesnt matter how badly the opponen hurts as long as you didnt start it... also the technicues allows you to deside when the fight is over, since you can put the opponent to variety of locks.
I wouldn't exactly agree on Ninpo being self defense. Ninpo is lethal in almost every form, whether you're going to break the guys neck or not is up to you.
first of all ninpo isnt a martial art. ninpo is the philosophy behind ninjutsu, which is a martial art. secondly, it is all about defense. most of the techniques are a respones to an attack aka defense.
Ed is a good way to get to know the Bujinkan. He's been around training for a really long time. If you can't come to Japan and train, then he and the other high ranking Australian guys are a great way to get to know the art.
i attended a seminar of eds, in the wirral, hosted by brian duckers, and trust me the stuff works, i can understand why people think its a put on , but seriously, it works, the guy is a great guy to talk to also,
do they use real knifes and swords in the training? also i met ed once and was interested in training but he told me it wasn't aerobics so i decided to train in Japan
duz this stuff actually work? i mean you cant really say that the students have alot of physical strength. would this stuff work on person that had more physical strength than you?
I don't think you could find a better martial art for overcoming someone with superior physical strength. Best way is to check out a ninjutsu dojo close to you and see for yourself.
Rurouni79: Yeah Ninjutsu and Aikido are both great martial arts for overcoming superior physical strength. I've done both and they both rock but Ninjutsu suits me more since it's a less complex art than Aikido and i don't have time for the great amount of training that Aikido requires.
It's all about who you train with and how dedicated you are to learn.
For me personally the answer is certainly yes, it works. I trained for 12 some odd years before taking a security job where I was regularly in street fights. Over time I ended up fighting a lot (50+ fights) of untrained people who were much larger, stronger, and in better shape than I was. I'm still here to talk about it and I never got injured so I must've taken something from the training.
Thanks Dino. Look forward to catching up with you again. For those of you who don't know Dino is one of the top German teachers and if you are ever passing through Nuremburg you should get to his training.
I trained with ed for 2 or so years while i was in highschool both in the batanical park and at the goodwood primary school, the man is a great leader and teacher as well as providing a excellent roll model.
hey guys im over from ireland an im currently staying in adelaide, im looking for a dojo to train in somewhere easy to get to like the city center any ideas
Very nice video. I wish it had been longer, I like this sensei's style. He is rather stern but moves quite comfortably. My taijutsu is not nearly as good but I move similarly. Good vid, if you guys get any more going please put them up. Gambatte.
Darren was originally a student of Ed Lomax (the intructor in this vid). He's the highest ranked sensei in Oz, so if you get the chance, you should check out one of his classes.
Very well filmed and edited. Awesome.
Maza675 4 months ago 3
@Maza675 Nick Tsamandanis did both. He has upgraded his steadicam since then and you can see more of his work on youtube if you search for his name.
gobanryu 4 months ago
How old do you have to be to learn Ninjutsu in Adelaide?
Im 16 and i wish to sighn up.
Hilltop589 5 months ago
@Hilltop589 there are schools that take people your age and so I would contact the Bujinkan Association group of instructors on 0420546317
gobanryu 5 months ago
This is one of the most dynamic and awesome looking bujinkan videos I have seen. The camera work is just outstanding.
natesmithcomedy 5 months ago 3
Nice moves, though I find hard to understand the need for other belt colors besides white (for 10th kyu), green (for 9th to 1st kyu) and black (shodan and beyond).
About the "blablabla coreographed moves", all I have to say is that about all the bujinkan videos you're gonna find here on youtube will be coreographed. Whoever, I hope you don't think that these demonstration videos actually show the full content of bujinkan's training system.
Besides, nice moves!!
Ninpo Ikkan!!
eskameflevs 8 months ago
where is his class in Adelaide please i would love to do it but i live in paralowie (north side) and i think he mite be a bit far
chooky85 9 months ago
@chooky85 the closest class would be Campbelltown on Monday nights.
gobanryu 9 months ago 2
@gobanryu thanks mate. do you go its it worth it?
chooky85 9 months ago
@chooky85 the instructor at Campbelltown is Andy, he has loads of years training and security work experience so well worth it. It's a small class so you will get plenty of personal assistance. Call 0420 546 317 to get his contact details as I gather they are changing venue at the moment.
gobanryu 9 months ago
@gobanryu thanks heaps mate i mite just give it a go thanks for your time
chooky85 9 months ago
@gobanryu thanks mate i mite just give it a go thanks for your time
chooky85 9 months ago
@gobanryu South Australian Bujinkan Ninjutsu
chooky85 9 months ago
@chooky85 no that is a different group and I don't recommend them - for reasons I will not go into here.
Bujinkan Association
PO Box 445, Torrensville SA 5031
ph: 0420 546 317
gobanryu 9 months ago
@gobanryu ok mate i will take your advice and give em ago thanks for your help and time
chooky85 9 months ago
This is not a sport..... It's LARPING
bizitch71717 1 year ago
@9mm034 that's a silly question, it can take some people more years than others to get a black belt in Ninjutsu, it's not judged on how long you have been training for, its judged on the amount of time, effort, commitment and hard work you put into it, and also some black belts are not as skilled as some Brown belts, or possibly lower
ncgar 1 year ago
again well played sir
Bujinskate 1 year ago
im 15 how long would it take to get a black belt in ninjitsu?
9mm034 1 year ago
how old do you have to be to start at this dojo?
bannanamicallef 1 year ago
@bannanamicallef I’m 17 and I think I’m the youngest member training in proper classes with Ed’s bujinkan school in Adelaide. However, on fridays and some other nights during the week there are kids classes.
thenoirkid 1 year ago
That instructor makes those techniques so easy and smooth almost like he's dancing with the students.
portadelaidefan1 1 year ago 2
hey! great video!
Cheers from a fellow buyu from Chile!
Akira161 1 year ago
Nice... Hail from braziliam bujinkan!
God bless you guys!
souzaninja 1 year ago
did anyone go to the unley primary school dojo shit he was there for ages 1997?
TheHelenas 1 year ago
Correct, this was not rehearsed at all, I was casually capturing shots with the Steadicam during a class. It was extremely unfortunate I missed a freak shot when Ed kicked the knife out of Ben's hand sending it flying in the air; Ed actually caught it and then thrust it towards his neck. Amazing!!
NICKFIP 2 years ago 2
It's not choreographed, but it is tightly edited. This clip is of Ed teaching in his dojo in Adelaide. He's living in Japan at the moment so you won't see him if you visit his dojo, but I can almost guarantee he'll be at all the soke classes and you'll probably see him at quite a few classes of the shitenno.
mouxou97 2 years ago
nice choreography... i wonder if they do real combat.
Since "its not a sport"...
RenzitoARG 2 years ago
What do you mean by "real combat"?
choja79 2 years ago
@RenzitoARG -- Good question. Why don't you show up at their dojo and ask them in person?
bujin21 2 years ago 2
@RenzitoARG None of this is coreographed…at all. And after you meet Ed you become pretty fucking certain he’s do just fine in a real fight. This is just him demonstrating techniques at half-speed for the sake of the class who have to copy them exactly.
thenoirkid 1 year ago
My respect to all my brothers who practice ninjutsu all over the world...Bows....
hellfire2121 2 years ago
Who does the music?
edgar1138 2 years ago
Smartsound
NICKFIP 2 years ago
ok completely random, but at certain times he looks like the janitor from scrubs!
terssatran 2 years ago 2
that janitor. he gets around. lol
omalsa04 2 years ago 3
he DOES! i totally feel you lol
wut6 2 years ago
i really would like to do this
dgvfsds 2 years ago
@dgvfsds do it
thenoirkid 1 year ago
I'm recently 16, and while I've been interested in taking up a martial art for a while, I never got around to it. Would it be too late to start ninjutsu at this stage?
WiggaMachiavelli 2 years ago
hhahahahaa
dude,16 is young for a ninjutsu learner!
i never started till i was nineteen, and if you keep going, you'll most likely hit your peak in your 40's or so.
You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
junkbx3r 2 years ago 7
@junkbx3r I started when I was 14.
silverkitsune95 1 year ago
@junkbx3r most nunjutsu clubs have an 18yr age minimum due to insurance requirements these days.
thenoirkid 1 year ago
Everything that junkbx3r said in his reply is absolutely correct.
I actually started Bujinkan Ninjutsu when I was 14 (I'm 16 now), and I almost have a Blackbelt!
So if I was you, I would hurry up and join and make the most of the time you already have.
For a martial arts group, the Bujinkan is a large yet very friendly organisation and you really have nothing to lose.
Go ahead and try it!
Shizukabushi 2 years ago
16 is the youngest age you can be to start Ninjutsu at the place I go to..
brujeria18 2 years ago
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Shizukabushi 2 years ago
I started when i was seven my grandfather is a descendant of Fujibayashi Nagato. Iam nineteen and still have a long way to go.
KokaRyuNinjutsu125 2 years ago
dang
i wanna start learnin again
this art is incredible
simple yet very effective techniques
jmek01 3 years ago
I like this better than karate, not really because of the difficulty, but because of the style. If I had the choice, I'd take lessons for this. This owns!
ray1042 3 years ago
Where do you live?
ninjanerd8 3 years ago
maybe on day i'll be as good as my sensei. i just need to keep training hard :)
DomIsNotSoCoolLike 3 years ago
how succesful is this in a real life situation, a fight or attacking for example?
im thinking about taking it up
connorbcfc1875 3 years ago
Take it.
9Ratsel9 3 years ago
Agreed. There's a reason why Ninja are so hard to kill.
D0gw4ffl3 3 years ago
the techniques are quick and effetive so if you're trying to get a fight over with this will do the job
SDub817 2 years ago 2
well put it one way my friend if you did this at full speed outside a nightclub on some drunken asshole your gonna get a load of pussy
painsey 2 years ago
@connorbcfc1875 Ninjutsu is all about being effective. Mainly the techniques are counter-strikes, but all are relevant and applicable to real combat situations. However, it ultimately isn’t the art, it’s the fighter. Don’t go around looking for the perfect martial art.
thenoirkid 1 year ago
heyyy guys
would it be stupid to go straight into Ninjutsu? ive never done a martial art but im only really interested in this one, i dont really like Judo silat Muay Thai and the others
Ticol0l 3 years ago
not stupid at all, like any martial art you have to find a good teacher and go from there.
gobanryu 3 years ago
@Ticol0l
It's never stupid to start any martial art. The only stupid thing is quitting.
zsoujiro 11 months ago
I live in adelaide.... I wish i had started training this when i was younger.
HrcWhitey 3 years ago
i do kyokushin karate im 13 and im 4th kyu( green belt black tip) going for 3rd kyu( brown belt) sometime mid next year i was wondering if any one thinks if it would be a good or bad idea for me to start training in a form of ninjutsu,i mean i first started karate because i liked ninjutsu when i was younger and i dont no if i shuld...
L0A0 3 years ago
Tell me, do you enjoy Karate? If you do put Karate in your heart, you should stay in it. If you really want Ninjutsu, go for it then
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
the knives are either wooden or hardened plastic as real knives are very sharp as we all know given recent events in adelaide,as regards to karate comparasons no disrespect to karate is more kata based traditionally wheres nin is more footwork orientated.Train hard in whatever style you do and remember its an extremely violent world we live so be careful peace and harmony to all ona gai shimas
mick75319 3 years ago 3
Do they use real or fake knives when they train? Also how hard is this compared to other martial arts like karate?
crowChokers 3 years ago
well the place i train at uses fake weapons or 'training' weapons but now and then the sensei may bring out a proper katana or something else... it depends.
you cant really compare martial arts on how hard they are, each has their differences nd places where they could be harder than another.
alex496 3 years ago
nice!!!
artrauco 3 years ago
Nice Video very good work greetings from germany.
Albrechttaijutsu 3 years ago
Can someone help me find Ninjitsu in victoria!!!!
TheCrushinator91 3 years ago
i once looked it up when I lived there and couldnt find any dojos at all , is that still the case??? I'm about to start studying this ^^
MisaMisa 3 years ago
there are many points that looks like FMA-FCS
Kaneevrfld 3 years ago
buko is not right
if its about defence then why not learn judo where you can get them on the ground very easy?
hurican310 3 years ago
And what makes you think you can't get an attacker on the ground just as easily using ninjutsu? Did you even watch the video?
MickyD79 3 years ago
Because Judo is designed for disarming and disabling an opponent, Ninjutsu is not.
qqs764 3 years ago
The fact that you would submit such a ludicrious statement demonstrates perfectly your level of ignorance. Just for the sake of a good laugh, I'd love to hear what your opinion of ninjutsu really is.
MickyD79 3 years ago
umm you did just watch that video didnt you??
pretty much every move the sensei did was to disarm nd then disable his attacker.
i dont kno what ur goin on about
alex496 3 years ago
judo is designed as a sport, ju.. do the gentle way, not jutsu as in combat. judo is jujutsu with the nasty, bits taken out somewhat, your talking crap unfortunately
darrenburns123 2 years ago
Judo is Jujutsu that can actually be applied on a fully resisting opponent. It is in itself a highly effective self-defensive martial art, and when combined with a striking art, is far superior in that sense to traditional Jujutsu.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
Judo does not go through the same training as jitsu it is one on one grappling, Jitsu however defends against a mixture of grappling, striking, armed and multiple opponents with pressure testing and so forth if yr opponent is not resisting it is yr uke that is the problem not the art. Yes Judo can be applied as self defense but that is not its purpose and when it is used as self-defense it would be called some form of jitsu or aikido e.t.c.
ScarecrowC 2 years ago
Also, Jutsu does NOT in any way mean or insinuate combat. It means art, or technique / method.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago 3
he is real good
zak3293 3 years ago
Very cool - Love the camera work. Makes you feel like you are right there.
boxerama 3 years ago
Brutal - Beautiful.
I do Karate - Lots of it... Still, multi-skilling like this? Hrm..... Salivating..
commswarrior 3 years ago
I was at a seminar of his before. He's really an awesome guy.
Coldkiss86x 3 years ago
ufc is of course a sport, but mma isnt. if one chooses to mix martial arts it doesnt mean he/she is doing it for sport, but loading their arsenal of techniques. imho it seems that ninjutsu seems to be an mma in itself. it combines different aspects of combat in one art, so that students do not have to learn several arts to be proficient in multiple aspects of combat.
matt1rrufc 3 years ago 4
well kinda. because all the techniques use taijutsu, and most have traces of kosijutsu
Budokid 3 years ago
good instructor.
keep it up
flomiline 3 years ago 2
im lovin it! feelgood video ! gambatte kudasai!
Illium75 3 years ago
It is very childish to reduce every video thread to a MMA discussion. If you need lots of belts and encouragement and competition and trophies... combat arts are not for you. If you want to learn how to move, think, adapt, etc, then give a combat art like taijutsu a try. This type of training is not for everyone, and it appears from watching Shihan Ed Lomax that these students sacrifice some comfort for the sake of realism.
negativeionz0 3 years ago 15
@negativeionz0 Speaking as one of Ed’s students, we do sacrifice comfort for realism. Ed is a great teacher of ninpo taijutsu. I trained in 2 other martial arts prior to bujinkan, have a black-belt in one of them (after 6 yrs of training), and can honestly say that ninjutsu is one of the least pretentious martial arts out there. There is very little focus placed on grades and titles, and more focus on personal development and attitude.
thenoirkid 1 year ago
@negativeionz0 you call this realism - but in Judo or JKD, the moves are practiced against RESISTING opponents. You have ZERO logic if you tell me that practicing against resisting opponents who are competent in your art is less effective than slowly practicing moves.
If I know judo, I can slam you or have a higher chance of slamming you. You practice slow moves and they DON'T increase your chances because you don't even know if they work. Its THEORY.
HavahdYahdHahrry 1 year ago
where do i sign up?
burgerman105 3 years ago
kestekit is correct in the style ninjutsu which i take their are no rules like in tai kown do(or w/e it is) or jutsu. in ninjutsu its what ever can go GOES!!
sycan093 3 years ago
There are never rules in a fight. There are only rules between fighters. A lack of rules in training does not make it ninjutsu.
Kaiouss 3 years ago
exactly, the lack of rules stop it from being a sport.
Rajthedrummer 3 years ago
sport is when you are competing and have a strict manner of competing - boxing is a prime example. when someone attacks you out of nowhere unexpectantly then you down them as fast as you can... ninjustsu teachs you to disarm and/or neutralise your opponent NOT by any means necessary but by strict technique which is minimalistic in terms of energy use.
good example: watch the grandmaster dr maskaki hatsumi, who is pushing almost 80 years old, take down 20 year olds with no effort at all.
Magnatheos 3 years ago
I think the Hatsumi classes are bit tough. If shihan often
have trouble understanding what he is doing, I've got
a snowflakes chance in hell of understanding.
Having said that, when I was in Japan in March I did see
Hatsumi absolutely smash Darren Horvarth. Darren Horvarth is a monster, he's bigger than Ed Lomax.
He's not in the same league as Ed or a number
of other Australian shihan for that matter but that's not
the point....the way soke tossed him
around like a piece of litter is the point.
mouxou97 3 years ago
is there ninjitsu in geelong
TrooperNG 3 years ago
yes my name is mathew steel. im 4th dan Bujinkan. i have trained a few times under Ed, hi Ed. our dojo is at 14 Seaside Parade, North shore. ph 0416 518 855. we are opposite north shore station.
ninjato2001 3 years ago
A few times is a bit of a stretch isn't it?
Please don't mislead people into thinking that meeting Ed and training under him are the same thing, especially when you didn't even listen to a word he said. Self promotion like this is a load of rubbish and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Personally I would prefer to train less often and head into Melbourne as much as possible to train with qualified shidoshi such as Tim Bathurst and Craig Guest.
Don't like it? Feel free to contact me.
djborg79 3 years ago
i think that you have the wrong person. 1)i have trained with ed in adelaide 2 times and once at the oz tai kai. once with scott & once with another black belt. a few times thats all. 2) i listened very carefully to what ed said to me, and i changed my training to suit. 3) i have trained over 250 times with craig guest, & contiue to do so, even trained there last night. 4) what self promotion??? someone asked if there was a school here and i only introduced myself. i also trained 10 weeks in
ninjato2001 3 years ago
japan last year over two trips, and continue to train with other instructors that are more highly skilled that myself. i think that you must have the wrong person... and this is getting way off topic, & i dont want to start a fight here. i will not be replying to this anymore, as this is about ed's video, not about my school etc.
ninjato2001 3 years ago
Oops, sorry! My mistake, I thought you were the Matthew Steel who came to Eds dojo a couple of years back asking for your 1st dan (even though you wore a black belt to training). Done alot of training since then I guess...I hope at least you have a shidoshi-ho licence then since you are teaching?
djborg79 3 years ago
My cousin has her black belt under Stephen K. Hayes himself. I'm starting up at quest in here very soon, I'm lucky enough to have him 2 minutes up the road...Dayton, Ohio.
KatsuGuitar 3 years ago 2
Stephen Hayes is very good, but if im not mistaken, i think he split from the bujinkan
Budokid 3 years ago
I train in cincinnati, you have the opertunity to be able to train in Bujinkan and Stephen K Hayes Toshindo. Not 15 minutes from each other as well. They have subtle diffrences, but Jeffs classes in dayton are great as well as Hayes, My friend in the bujinakn knows his daughter, marrissa
wraithranma 3 years ago
I wish they had mats at the dojo i train! lol
Rajthedrummer 4 years ago 2
Actually, the mats were only used that day to give the video some colour.
NICKFIP 4 years ago 3
i bet they were relieved when they came to the lesson and there were mats out hahahaha
Rajthedrummer 3 years ago
A UFC fighter would never fight someone trained in Bujinkan Ninjutsu, for the simple reason that Bujinkan Ninjutsu is one of the only remaining Martial Arts that teaches no rules fighting.
Any part of the body is an acceptable target, not like these fruits in UFC who want rules against neck and groin strikes, and rules against manipulation of small digits on the body.
KestelKitt 4 years ago
Do you think that the elite fighters in the UFC would fight the same way on the street in a real situation...they would be lethal too. You couldn't really allow throat strikes, spine strikes, digit snapping etc in the ring because eventually there would be no-one left to fight. All sport today is about money. Therefore you must protect your commodity.
cutdadek 3 years ago 3
UFC is a knockout tournament though, not a killing competition. Ninjutsu is NOT UFC, don't even compare them. UFC is mixed martials arts and hand-to-hand combat for the sole purpose of downing the oppponent. Ninjutsu is more disarming and disabling combat. It originated from Japan when they resisted the samurai dynasties and fought against them to disarm them and either kill or capture them. They don't teach the killing strikes publicly, although it's not hard to find out from the internet...
Magnatheos 3 years ago
UFC is knockout though, not kill strikes. and as a sport they wouldnt allow physically disabling an opponent. and if you're stupid enough to fight a UFC fighter in the street you deserve whatever you get dealt
Magnatheos 3 years ago
i would love to see one of them try their moves on a UFC fighter, then we'll see how effective it is
sayvar44 4 years ago
Troll..
ssshinken 4 years ago
just so you know, a UFC fighter tried one of theese guys, he was locked in a death'grip in a few seconds, ofc the UFC fighter thought he could just roll himself out of the death'grip, and he got a neck-injury...
So yea, i would love to see something like that on tape ;)
brosstan 4 years ago 2
As a matter of fact, a lot of the techniques in the Bujinkan are outlawed by UFC. Gouges, holding clothing, small joint manipulation, nerve strikes, even "timidity". When we train, all of these come into play, and yes, they really hurt. I'm sure that a budoka could easily hold his own against a UFC fighter, at least long enough to injure him and get away.
USNABudo 4 years ago
Seems like a pointless thing to argue about. While I agree with the spirit of your assertion, it only takes one mistake to nigh predetermine the winner of a fight and anyone can make mistakes. That is why we train. So that our mistakes will not be our last.
Kaiouss 3 years ago 2
Another UFC fanboi troll. Bujinkan is tried and tested for real-life confrontations. UFC is a rule-governed playground. My hard earned money is on ninjutsu over any of the steroid-pumped pretenders in the UFC.
Rurouni79 4 years ago 5
I agree!
-Trey
yertbomb 3 years ago
@derrickv
LOL
SpyForceTeam 4 years ago
Is the Bunjinkan the only authentic ninjutsu school around? I'm sure there are others that've come from other clans but just don't advertise themselves.
derrickv 4 years ago
"bujinkan", as far as i know, only means something like "training hall" or "dojo", but if someone knows it better, he/she may correct me.
einsplus 4 years ago
yes i asked my trainer and he says that bujinkan budo means "to stop war" because that is what part of the martial art is about to prevent war not to make, the only true victory is to prevent any fight happening ;) and Dojo means training hall :)
thesplin 4 years ago
bujinkan can be roughly translated as "warrior spirit training hall". To translate it as "to stop war" is quite off literally, but not far from the ethics of the Bujinkan. However the days when we got actively involved in such things are long gone.
gobanryu 4 years ago
Bujinkan claims to be the world authority on Ninjutsu as it was inherited by Masaaski Hatsumi Sensei. Others are Genbukan and Jinenkan and BBD I think
MaNarchicDRAKE 4 years ago
these other groups you refer to are from students of the Bujinkan that quit. eg BBD - Irish ex-shidoshi Brian MacCarthy (was 8th dan which is below shihan in Bujinkan), Genbukan from Japanese ex-student Tanemura (also was 8th dan in Bujinkan), and Jinenkan by Japanese ex-student Manaka (was 10th dan which is first of the shihan/master ranks in Bujinkan).
gobanryu 4 years ago
To the gentlement featured in this video, wonderful job. Truely top notch taijutsu.
negativeionz0 4 years ago
its not even the techniques, its the way of moving that this art teaches you that allows you to use it in any situation, brilliant :). was at a seminar by Pedro Fleitas gonzalez in ireland this weekend really enjoyed it, some lads from the Atlanta dojo had sayings on their tee shirts like " if you die , we split your gear"
theyellowdart12 4 years ago
I'm starting tonight at the Hombu dojo in South Africa, One of the best dojo's around. I like reading the positive comments about Bujinkan. and I agree with zuser, with the right technique you could take out anyone.
At the higher levels of achievement I think 4th dan you develop a deeper sense of your surroundings and become able to sense attacks
NineHitShinobi 4 years ago
It's not a question about Strength or Speed.
you can take everyone out with techniques, as shown here.
zuser 4 years ago
Some of the Ninjutsu moves aims after special parts of the body, also breaking joints and all that stuff.
it's a pretty deadly way in defending yourself but that's how it is...
zuser 4 years ago
Yeah after all Ninjutsu is self defence. That way it doesnt matter how badly the opponen hurts as long as you didnt start it... also the technicues allows you to deside when the fight is over, since you can put the opponent to variety of locks.
FINworldrock 4 years ago
I wouldn't exactly agree on Ninpo being self defense. Ninpo is lethal in almost every form, whether you're going to break the guys neck or not is up to you.
JohnofNub 3 years ago 2
first of all ninpo isnt a martial art. ninpo is the philosophy behind ninjutsu, which is a martial art. secondly, it is all about defense. most of the techniques are a respones to an attack aka defense.
Budokid 3 years ago
Budo kid is correct.
wraithranma 3 years ago
Ed is a good way to get to know the Bujinkan. He's been around training for a really long time. If you can't come to Japan and train, then he and the other high ranking Australian guys are a great way to get to know the art.
monkeymadman 4 years ago
i attended a seminar of eds, in the wirral, hosted by brian duckers, and trust me the stuff works, i can understand why people think its a put on , but seriously, it works, the guy is a great guy to talk to also,
darrenburns123 4 years ago
do they use real knifes and swords in the training? also i met ed once and was interested in training but he told me it wasn't aerobics so i decided to train in Japan
Crows4premiers 4 years ago
Hey i live in perth and was wondering where is a good place to learn ninjutsu?
deathbychris 4 years ago
Check out the dojo list on Ed's website.
NICKFIP 4 years ago
duz this stuff actually work? i mean you cant really say that the students have alot of physical strength. would this stuff work on person that had more physical strength than you?
churbro 4 years ago
I don't think you could find a better martial art for overcoming someone with superior physical strength. Best way is to check out a ninjutsu dojo close to you and see for yourself.
Rurouni79 4 years ago 2
Rurouni79: Yeah Ninjutsu and Aikido are both great martial arts for overcoming superior physical strength. I've done both and they both rock but Ninjutsu suits me more since it's a less complex art than Aikido and i don't have time for the great amount of training that Aikido requires.
sniper479 4 years ago
It's all about who you train with and how dedicated you are to learn.
For me personally the answer is certainly yes, it works. I trained for 12 some odd years before taking a security job where I was regularly in street fights. Over time I ended up fighting a lot (50+ fights) of untrained people who were much larger, stronger, and in better shape than I was. I'm still here to talk about it and I never got injured so I must've taken something from the training.
negativeionz0 4 years ago 3
Great view of your Training, Ed. Hope to see you again sometimes. To all the others: having been Eds Uke I can say, it's really working stuff!
Best wishes... Dino
Yotudi 4 years ago
Thanks Dino. Look forward to catching up with you again. For those of you who don't know Dino is one of the top German teachers and if you are ever passing through Nuremburg you should get to his training.
gobanryu 4 years ago
do you guys have a branch here in Sydney? I'd be most interested in learning. ^^
Anikii 4 years ago
Check out the dojo list on Ed's website.
NICKFIP 4 years ago
I trained with ed for 2 or so years while i was in highschool both in the batanical park and at the goodwood primary school, the man is a great leader and teacher as well as providing a excellent roll model.
automiousweapon 4 years ago
Great vid! Eds a champ! so is michael and all these guys at Bujinkan, im thinkin of definately coming back for classes after seeing this video haha
hoodedmonkey 4 years ago
i trained with ed in ireland . the man is a gent and a phenomonal martial artist.
raffstd 4 years ago
If once on my life I travel to Australia I would like to visit your dojo =D
betinhorj 4 years ago
this is so good
naitsabes100 4 years ago
I wish I could learn this -_- all they teach around here are different variations of boxing and karate :(
supadox 4 years ago
Not Taijutsu, But TAIJITSU
Gregottawa 4 years ago
this is not taijutsu , its ninjitsu and taijutsu
Alexfbi24 4 years ago
I was at the seminar too, this video is a very basic, very relaxed display. His class at the seminar was much more dynamic. I wouldn't mess with him!
senseitre 4 years ago
attended a seminar with ed a couple of weeks ago, kukishinden ryu, the guys knowledge and philosophy on fighting is amazing.
darrenburns123 4 years ago
Ed has lived in Japan for long periods, studying with Grand Master Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi, and is the first Australian to achieve the rank of Shihan.
NICKFIP 4 years ago
Not bad, I like his ken movements. Very sharp. ;)
rubix41 4 years ago
lol ahhh the basics.
love them.
withkarateillkickyou 4 years ago
The Goodwood dojo at Friday evenings is only 5 mins from the city. Class held by Ed Lomax.
NICKFIP 5 years ago
hey guys im over from ireland an im currently staying in adelaide, im looking for a dojo to train in somewhere easy to get to like the city center any ideas
Uaithne18 5 years ago
Watch the "un-stretched" version at Google
NICKFIP 5 years ago
Awesome Ed.
KeyboredNinja 5 years ago
Very nice video. I wish it had been longer, I like this sensei's style. He is rather stern but moves quite comfortably. My taijutsu is not nearly as good but I move similarly. Good vid, if you guys get any more going please put them up. Gambatte.
pattyfpu 5 years ago
Check out the website, kambutstube - there's a few locations
RoninDevlin 5 years ago
ahk thanks for the link. im already a member of Darren Horvaths ninjutsu club and was just wondering about you guys since i never heard of you.
ginafragualas 5 years ago
Darren was originally a student of Ed Lomax (the intructor in this vid). He's the highest ranked sensei in Oz, so if you get the chance, you should check out one of his classes.
Rurouni79 5 years ago
awesome i study under kevin hawthorn w00t ninjas for life
yabasha 5 years ago
I thought Kevin Hawthorne was a karate guy???
RubberTanto 4 years ago
nah Kevin Hawhtorn's Ninjitsu Academy Australia
yabasha 4 years ago
is that bujinkan, genbukan, jinenkan or myofuan?
RubberTanto 4 years ago
Bujinkan, as taught by Grand Master Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi.
NICKFIP 4 years ago
it's very similar to Wing Chun I have seen.
MykeTyson 4 years ago
no even close to Wing Chun....
TenaciousGrandma 4 years ago
I have to disagree, having trained extensively in both styles.
NICKFIP 4 years ago
It really isn't
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