@bballman3113 Marriage is not a right. It's a quantifiable, qualifiable privelege. You can't just get married to anyone you want just because your male or female even those being male and female is the MINIMAL requirement. Some can't get that right.
@AVTPro In the current system agreed, 100 percent. But just because something is the status quo does not make it morally correct or practical. Marriage is a man made institution that, although it does hold strong roots in the religions of the middle east, it is not the sole property of those religions. Therefore, there is no reason for marriage to be denied to homosexuals, transsexuals and whoever else wants to get married.
@bballman3113 I didn't say marriage is morally correct because it's' the status quo. It's morally wrong because it's detrimental for humanity regardless of religion. 70% of people dead from AIDS were homosexual, yet, you say there is not reason why government shouldn't pass homosexuality? Homosexuality is adds no life benefit to humanity. It is merely adverse sexual behavior, there is no life and it dependent on heterosexuality to survive and exist. It drain resources of humanity.
@AVTPro I'm not sure where that statistic comes from, but AIDS has not been that high among homosexuals since it's outbreak in the 80's. That aside, if we move forward with the premise that AIDS should be outlawed because of it's deleterious affects, then we must apply this same ban of other deleterious actons. Smoking, drinking, driving. All these have high death rates associated with them. Following your argument leads us here. Would you support this?
@bballman3113 Smoking and Drinking are regulated, penalized and taxed because of the health fatalities. Yet, homosexuality a sexstyle plague with death and disease is being provisioned and supplemented with TAX Cuts, adoption and laws. Do you see the disparity?
@AVTPro Regulated, penalized and taxed, but still not illegal. As for plague and disease, they have been in a steady decline since the "free love" culture of the 70's has disappeared. And since medicine has created "cocktails" of pills for those who are AIDS and HIV positive people with those disease have been living a lot longer. That being said smoking and drinking, in excess for long amounts of time will kill you. Gay sex, with a monogamous partner, in large quantities, will not.
The point is: Gays legally being able to wed promotes fidelity, monogomy, commitment, and a healthy lifestyle. Gay marriage, in no way, demeans hetero marriage and procreation, or affects you. Homosexuals are people, not a behavior.
Do you ever wonder why the so called expert on "marriage" the one and only Maggie Gallagher is never seen with her husband? If marriage is so great...why is he absent? The reason is Maggie Gallagher is married to a black man. She is in an interracial marriage. She is ASHAMED of her interracial marriage and is afraid that the conservative bigots that support her ideology will STOP DONATING to her scam organization NOM. Need Oppressive Money! 40% goes directly into her pocket.
Brian brown is a bigot. Homosexual agenda? You know what they say if you are against gay marriage then don't get married to someone who is gay. (ps what kills me is that the cbn interviewer looks a little gay... no?)
Why is everyone bringing god into this?! Marriage was created by the Jews to keep wealth and land in families, that's why kings married queens, it was all about wealth and greed, never love. Now marriage has seemed to find it's way into meaning love which is great but it's something that everyone should be entitled too. I, being gay, am really dissapointed in everyones intolerance for this issue.
The fundamentalists are trying to create an impression of gay people that most do not recognize.... gay people are not flying planes into buildings, shooting abortionists, beating their children to death with a 'biblical' rod, they do not want to shut down churches, they do not want to corrupt your children. They just want to be happy, and for some of them, not all, that means marriage. By demonizing gay people, the gun backfires. It just makes you look nasty.
The fundamentalists are trying to create an impression of gay people that most do not recognize.... gay people are not flying planes into buildings, shooting abortionists, beating their children to death with a 'biblical' rod, they do not want to shut down churches, they do not want to corrupt your children. They just want to be happy, and for some of them, not all, that means marriage. By demonizing gay people, the gun backfires. It just makes you look nasty.
I will NEVER figure out why people are so freaked out about gay marriage. It seems to mostly be based on religion (nothing of which can be proven), and won't affect anyone else's marriage or cheapen marriage at all. In fact, the fact that gay people want to settle down and commit would seemingly be something that people should embrace. Get a life, bigots.
first of all, i have children exposed to gay people constantly (family members and friends) and guess what - they love them, and my kids are fantastic kids who have given me minimal angst. Regarding the institution of marriage, you didn't explain how gay people getting married affects your marriage, mine, or anyone else's.
@MidwestN8TV Children don't know right from wrong. This is why they are targeted. Yet they say, homosexuality has no effect on children who copy EVERYTHING they see? They will go to school thinking it's good to touch little boys. You deny that? Children mimck everything. And you say this will have no influence on future society? then you nothing about families.
Umm dude, what statistic even shows that children become gay from having same-sex parents? And last I checked, 90% of marriages are heterosexual...since homosexuality is only 10% of the human population. Ie. It will have no effect on families. None. Sorry dude, science wins over bigotry. Have a nice day.
Homosexuality is against the moral fiber of the family, church and society. Catholic Charities adoption agency is being force to comply with homosexual laws or go out of adoption placement. Children will suffer for this.
@AVTPro Catholic Charities needs to stop being a bunch of bigots. It is the pathetic Catholic church , not gay people, who are making the children suffer. The Catholic Church shouldn't have any members left for enabling priests to rape children, and transfering them to other parishes where the chuch knew they would rape more. What a pathetic excuse for a religion.
No difference? HIV/AIDS of 2008 in heterosexuals VS. homosexuals (male to male) is 27% to 47% with homosexuals in the lead. That's 20% Difference.
What about the difference of Homosex equal 0% fertility and Hetero is 90% fertility. You talk about what you do in bed being no different? It does not create life. It has a higher disease rate. It is not even REAL INTERCOURSE.
You are lying and decieving the public. That's my only concern. the truth.
@Blairtim69 If they are no different then why do you call them gay, and why not homosexual since that is the difference. YOU are the one dividing human by their sexual behavior. You divide not multiply.
The rest of America CREATE families. You manipulate resource alotted to them. We are overcompensating and OverHealing like an overgrowth scab or keyliod. Heterosex ≠ Homosex. Genetics Biology and life says so. Two become one flesh (not strange). Share genes with your mate if you are equal.
A blonde and brunette are obviously "different," yet we're not "dividing" them just by giving them specific labels. The people who are "dividing" others are people like you who claim that the only purpose for marriage is to procreate. So I guess going by your "logic," we should deny infertile couples rights, too, eh?
A long time ago, the point of marriage was for the sake of the offspring. But guess what? It's 2010 now. It's time to grow up.
I didn't say the only purpose of Marriage is procreation. I said Marriage HAS a purpose and Procreation is a HUGE factor considering No one would GROW at all with Out Heterosexual procreation. Homosexual are only Heteros misbehaving. There is no such thing as a homosexual organ Only misappropriate hetero organs. You divide Humanity into groups based on sexual behavior then deny the only form of life known to humanity.
Here's what you said: "The rest of America CREATE families."
As for homosexuals being "misbehaving heterosexuals," well, I think that's enough evidence to point out how bigoted and homophobic you are. Also, with so many kids that need to be adopted, do we really need to focus on creating MORE families?
"There is no such thing as a homosexual organ Only misappropriate hetero organs."
Sexuality isn't an "organ." Looks like somebody fell asleep in anatomy class...
You are sorely missing the point. You say that there is no such thing as homosexuals. You deny the reality of millions of peoples lives who tell you differently, even the American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association and all such associations in Europe and other parts of the world. You obviously didn't watch the Proposition 8 Trial in California or you wouldn't be so ignorant.
This man says "return marriage to one man and one woman". Like Gays getting married all of the sudden stops "traditional marriage" all together. OH!, and they now have to change the forms from saying "bride and groom". Uh, NO, they now will have a few extra forms catering to same sex couples. Again....This irrational threat from loving, commited gay couples! Get over it! They're not going to have their honeymoons on your front lawn!
Why are these people so against others' happiness and deserved rights, that have NOTHING to do with THEM? Voting on gay marriage is WRONG. Putting a small minorities granted rights up for popular (mob) vote is unfair, and that's why courts intervene. "Religious liberties" are threatened? Civil rights, and religious beliefs are supposed to be seperate. That's why ur Country's freedoms were created 200 years ago. Stop hating on the gays just because of your belief in 2,000 year old scripture!
nobody's forcing gays to deny their attractions. Nobody's criminalizing homosexuals acts or raiding gay marriages in churches. gays can freely express their feelings of love in a church and get all the benefits that come with marriage through civil unions. however, as soon as you step outside the private realm of RELIGIOUS marriage and enter into the public sphere of CIVIL marriage, you are subject to the law and public opinion or vote because civil marriage is about public policy.
You keep fighting Brian, you are not going to win. People are seeing through you bigotted unloving selfish fools. Again, fool, you don't put peoples rights up to a vote. If that were the case, we would vote to have you put away. Go get a live man.
In the name of Unity you divide Marriage into two parts as if their is two forms of humanity. In the name of love you group and classify by sex the lowest base of humanity. Love is not physicality. it's is spiritual. God is love. Prove one and you have proven the other. God said, Multiply not Divide.
Providing health care to a gay or lesbian partner -- a basic human right, according to Church teaching -- is an end in itself and no more legitimizes that marriage than giving communion to a divorced person legitimizes divorce, or giving food or shelter to an alcoholic legitimizes alcoholism. They are full of S. NOMers just want to fight gays, they are in now way an orginization for marriage. They should be NAG, National organization Against Gays.
The rights of a minority should never be up for debate. Fuck all the Christian bigots stuck in the middle ages... I can't wait until all the old uneducated homophobes are dead.
@Blairtim69 You can admit to angry, deny hate yet in the same breath ACCUSE me of HATE when I never used any hateful words.? Is your whole life a contradiction.
Marriage is not a right. It's a privilege so is life.
@Blairtim69 If you are degraded, it's your own conviction to the truth, I have said nothing abusive. So don't accuse me of it falsehoods.
Second, two men performing sexual acts on each other has no more right to benefits of marriage than a single man masturbating in a room alone. Neither creates life, builds the nation or community. There is no reason to compensate either. Neither are having real intercourse or real sex.
If anyone, "Celibate" should get a tax break for not spreading disease.
Homosex does not create humans. It's inhumanity laws. Two species that can not create or share genes is form of bestiality. Black would be still be considered subhuman if they could not mate with Whites.
There is no humanity when people say they are controlled by sex. When they justify their behavior by likening it to animals. It's inhumanity laws you seek which do not create humans.
@NintendoArielle I'm saying it's a reason why your chromosomes are incompatible with your sexual partner. It's strange flesh. That's an actually fact of life, not my opinion. You are ignorant to not know basic biology and hateful to call me bigot. It's basic truth. Says it in the blble. Men seeking men is strange flesh. Only a women are genetically compatible to men. Bone of my bone, Flesh of my flesh. A man having sex with a man he might as well be have sex with a cow. Strange flesh.
If by "incompatible" you mean being able to reproduce, then I guess infertile couples should be "having sex with cows," too, eh?
Anyway, no, I am not the ignorant one here. At least I'm down-to-earth and realize that love isn't just fucking for babies; it's about emotional compatibility and wanting to spend the rest of your life with a person you love, regardless of gender. That has nothing to do with biology.
You are the hateful one, so don't turn the fucking tables on me. And fuck the bible.
Infertile couples are heterosexuals incapable of procreations. Homosexuals are NOT INFERTLE because NO homosexual is CAPABLE of procreaction with their Mate EVER. Youre not qualified to compare yourself form of sex to heteros or intercourse. It's not intercourse is sodomy. Homosex can be no more fertile than masturbation.
If you call any from of sex..."love" then you ignorant. Prove love you Prove God. God is Love.
Actually, you're wrong about homosexual sex not leading to offspring. There are some species which have only females (such as whiptail lizards). So are they "wrong" for fucking each other?
Marriage is not just for people who want kids. There are many more people nowadays who choose to be childless or cannot have children.
You're the one making out procreation to be "love," hypocrite. Oh, and I don't believe in a god, but I do think that your view of God is distorted and bigoted.
i encourage you to type in "Alan Keye's argument" and watch the video where Alan answers and refutes these type of arguments about the infertile and other situations just like it
@AVTPro Therein lies the huge problem - you want to deny people their rights because of something that YOU believe, but that you can't prove. Religion has been responsible for justifying slavery, the 2 wars we are fighting now in the Middle East, oppression of women, and treating gay people like crap. For something that can't be proven, it's sure caused a lot of pain for so many people. And who really cares about procreation any more? with over 6 BILLION people, we can not sustain more.
@MidwestN8TV I do no deny anyone their right. Marriage is not a RIGHT it's a privilege just like procreation. Who deny homosexuality the the ablility to create life? Who?
How can you truthfully say that homosexuality is marriageable but incest is not? By your loose moral standards you deny brother and sister but two men are OK?
I have nothing against anyones human right but we place more physical qualification on a drivers license, yet marriage has no qualification? Try truth man.
Marriage is not a "privilege" when you take into account that marriage gives couples rights that non-married couples don't have, such as visitation in the hospital and inheritance. Marriage is not solely for the purpose of procreation anymore. Get with the times and stop dehumanizing people as sperm donators and incubators.
Actually, incestuous couples can get married in some states, and I think that it should be allowed (though they shouldn't have kids since they might have genetic issues).
Marriage is a civil contract. If you truly believe in the U.S. Constituion as being the law of the land (not your buybull) then you must acquiesce to the fact that under civil law and the fourteenth amendment to our Constitution, LGBT people must be treated equally under the law because they are citizens too. If you can follow the logic, you will then have to agree that civil marriage must be extended to all consenting adults, not just the heterosexual ones.
if you Go to Wikipedia and type in Baker v. Nelson, The case will show you that the same court in Loving v Virginia not only distinguished same sex marriage from interracial marriage, but established it as a right that does not exist under the constitution and never did. so the 14th amendment does not confer a RIGHT to gay marriage anymore than it does for polygamy
@kenballer00 Exactly marriage is not a human right. Just because you are human does not mean you can marry another. it's not even gender based it's moral. Brothers and sisters can't marry. Polygamy is as normal societal mores and so is Homosexuality. It does not benefit society for them to be marriage. Homosex has to be supplement with heterosex in the case of babes and partners. Homosex is not in any self sufficient or it is depend on heterosexuality for survival. it's as subset of heteros.
@idaman12345 Not even heteros are foolish to say marriage is just about love. What is love? God is Love. Sex is not love. Homos want property/exemptions and the holiness/honor for a sin/immoral sexstyle.
You manipulate people into things this a second chance to REDEEM themselves from the guilt of SLAVERY by defending SODOMY.
You fail at manipulating GUILT RIDDEN white people with RACIST TERMS. You sling around racist terms to defend sexual immorality. You try to SCARE white people into believing this is justification for Slavery by defending sodomy. Homosexual Activity has nothing to do with rasicm.
Fact, 70% of all people already dead from AIDS were homosexual. Google it.
You are an accuser and hate monger to SCARE Whites who already hurting from guilt with slavery with the term bigot . They are already ashamed and use stab them for sex indiscretion that in no way promotes humanity. You dehumanize yourself saying human are only sexual as animals.
I don't hate you. I love you. I hate to see so many people dying of AIDS and then you ask me to condone more of the same through the promotion of homosexual behavior in schools, and make it state laws.
Guess you forgot about all those heterosexual AIDS cases in Africa, huh? You really should educate yourself on this subject before you open your ignorant mouth. In subSaharan Africa 60% of the ENTIRE POPULATION HAS HIV. Are you trying to tell me that all of those peoplel are gay? YOU'RE SO IGNORANT on this subject.
The bible wasn't written by scientists you idiot. It was written by nomadic jews 5000 years ago when there was no science and only superstition. You're a fool for following that pack of fables and superstitions above what is plainly empirical evidence against all that malarky.
Wait a second...in California they yell at judges for legislating from the bench, and now when judges refuse to get involved they're disappointed? Get your story straight, NOM.
Jesus was betrayed by a kiss. By a gesture of love He was stripped of his rights. A physical act of love divided love, not united. Under the guise of love He was sent to his death. Carnality camouflaged as love was use to condemn the spiritual author of love. Don't confuse sex with love, less you betrayed by love, stripped of your right to vote in the name of love
Marriage is not a constitutional right. You have to qualify for it like any license. Homosexual no more qualify for marriage as they do for procreating with their mate. Not all heterosexual qualify for marriage. It's not a right. A brother and sister is disqualified from marriage just as two men from procreation. It's truth based on life., just like anal sex and oral wont get anyone pregnant... Male nor Female. Life is not discriminatory
If Marriage was based on procreation & life, then Barron Infertile couples would be "Disqualified" from marriage, & also would senor citizens, women past menopause, & couples who dont intend to have children, yet that is not the case at all. There are many married couples who don't want children, & their are those who have too many & cant afford to care for them. Then their are those who abuse, neglect & even murder their own children. Homosexes might be full of hate, but U r full of ignorance.
I didn't say Marriage is based on procreation. I do say LIFE itself is based on heterosexuality. No homo on the face of this planet would exist without heterosexuality. No homo will ever mix gene with their mate. Homosexuality is nonexistent without heterosexuality. It is not equal it is a subset heterosexuality. The results of the two are not equal. Homosexuality does not further marriage or life in any manner. You are stealing privileges that do not belong to you.
i encourage you to type in "Alan Keye's argument" and watch the video where Alan answers and refutes these type of arguments about the infertile and other situations just like it
"So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead"(From the NIV Bible, Revelation 2:22-23)
So Jesus says it's OKAY to MURDER someone just as long as you let them repent before you kill them, even though the bible specifically says "Thou shall not murder"? Way to be contradictory.The Bible makes as much sense as a Jewish Nazi,or a black KKK Member, or a PETA member wearing fur.
Under the heavy make up, Mark Martin, the anchor, seems so far wedged into the closet, he's got hangers up his ass.
dickyguapo 1 year ago
2 things. One; don't like gay marriage? don't get one.
Two: Gay marriage doesn't destroy marriage, divorce does.
AnceyStar 1 year ago
So wait let me get this right. The rights of religious people matter. And the rights of homosexual people don't matter. god i love religion.
bballman3113 1 year ago 2
@bballman3113 Marriage is not a right. It's a quantifiable, qualifiable privelege. You can't just get married to anyone you want just because your male or female even those being male and female is the MINIMAL requirement. Some can't get that right.
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro In the current system agreed, 100 percent. But just because something is the status quo does not make it morally correct or practical. Marriage is a man made institution that, although it does hold strong roots in the religions of the middle east, it is not the sole property of those religions. Therefore, there is no reason for marriage to be denied to homosexuals, transsexuals and whoever else wants to get married.
bballman3113 1 year ago
@bballman3113 I didn't say marriage is morally correct because it's' the status quo. It's morally wrong because it's detrimental for humanity regardless of religion. 70% of people dead from AIDS were homosexual, yet, you say there is not reason why government shouldn't pass homosexuality? Homosexuality is adds no life benefit to humanity. It is merely adverse sexual behavior, there is no life and it dependent on heterosexuality to survive and exist. It drain resources of humanity.
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro I'm not sure where that statistic comes from, but AIDS has not been that high among homosexuals since it's outbreak in the 80's. That aside, if we move forward with the premise that AIDS should be outlawed because of it's deleterious affects, then we must apply this same ban of other deleterious actons. Smoking, drinking, driving. All these have high death rates associated with them. Following your argument leads us here. Would you support this?
bballman3113 1 year ago
@bballman3113 Smoking and Drinking are regulated, penalized and taxed because of the health fatalities. Yet, homosexuality a sexstyle plague with death and disease is being provisioned and supplemented with TAX Cuts, adoption and laws. Do you see the disparity?
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro Regulated, penalized and taxed, but still not illegal. As for plague and disease, they have been in a steady decline since the "free love" culture of the 70's has disappeared. And since medicine has created "cocktails" of pills for those who are AIDS and HIV positive people with those disease have been living a lot longer. That being said smoking and drinking, in excess for long amounts of time will kill you. Gay sex, with a monogamous partner, in large quantities, will not.
bballman3113 1 year ago
@bballman3113 Homosex in large quanties leads to AIDS and not monogamy. At least by history.
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro
The point is: Gays legally being able to wed promotes fidelity, monogomy, commitment, and a healthy lifestyle. Gay marriage, in no way, demeans hetero marriage and procreation, or affects you. Homosexuals are people, not a behavior.
beegbolt 1 year ago
@beegbolt So your say they should marry because of it will keep them from spreading more disease? I don't think so.
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro
Now you're just being ignorant. Monogomy (through the commitment of marriage) is the ONLY way to stop the spread of disease. DUH!
beegbolt 1 year ago
@bballman3113
wait.... the rights of homosexual people matter but my rights don't. wow that's .... that's is discriminatory
carrerasrivera 1 year ago
@carrerasrivera I never said your rights don't matter. But how does gay marriage have any affect on your rights?
bballman3113 1 year ago
Do you ever wonder why the so called expert on "marriage" the one and only Maggie Gallagher is never seen with her husband? If marriage is so great...why is he absent? The reason is Maggie Gallagher is married to a black man. She is in an interracial marriage. She is ASHAMED of her interracial marriage and is afraid that the conservative bigots that support her ideology will STOP DONATING to her scam organization NOM. Need Oppressive Money! 40% goes directly into her pocket.
neenerpuss 1 year ago
Brian brown is a bigot. Homosexual agenda? You know what they say if you are against gay marriage then don't get married to someone who is gay. (ps what kills me is that the cbn interviewer looks a little gay... no?)
lthrson 1 year ago
Why is everyone bringing god into this?! Marriage was created by the Jews to keep wealth and land in families, that's why kings married queens, it was all about wealth and greed, never love. Now marriage has seemed to find it's way into meaning love which is great but it's something that everyone should be entitled too. I, being gay, am really dissapointed in everyones intolerance for this issue.
foshizzle11 1 year ago
Oh yes, they were FORCED to stop their foster care program and spousal benefits. This is hilarious.
PickThisCar 1 year ago
God says YES to gay marriage equality.
JesseSolorzano 1 year ago 5
The fundamentalists are trying to create an impression of gay people that most do not recognize.... gay people are not flying planes into buildings, shooting abortionists, beating their children to death with a 'biblical' rod, they do not want to shut down churches, they do not want to corrupt your children. They just want to be happy, and for some of them, not all, that means marriage. By demonizing gay people, the gun backfires. It just makes you look nasty.
updebracket 1 year ago
The fundamentalists are trying to create an impression of gay people that most do not recognize.... gay people are not flying planes into buildings, shooting abortionists, beating their children to death with a 'biblical' rod, they do not want to shut down churches, they do not want to corrupt your children. They just want to be happy, and for some of them, not all, that means marriage. By demonizing gay people, the gun backfires. It just makes you look nasty.
updebracket 1 year ago
Marriage in the United States is a legal contract between 2 consenting adults and the State. God has nothing to do with it.
mykelb 1 year ago
Brian Brown=GAYFACE!!!!!
Hdtexan 1 year ago
I will NEVER figure out why people are so freaked out about gay marriage. It seems to mostly be based on religion (nothing of which can be proven), and won't affect anyone else's marriage or cheapen marriage at all. In fact, the fact that gay people want to settle down and commit would seemingly be something that people should embrace. Get a life, bigots.
MidwestN8TV 1 year ago 8
Nobody cares about what homosexuals do to themselves. We care about what they do to children and the institution of Marriage.
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro
first of all, i have children exposed to gay people constantly (family members and friends) and guess what - they love them, and my kids are fantastic kids who have given me minimal angst. Regarding the institution of marriage, you didn't explain how gay people getting married affects your marriage, mine, or anyone else's.
MidwestN8TV 1 year ago 2
@MidwestN8TV Children don't know right from wrong. This is why they are targeted. Yet they say, homosexuality has no effect on children who copy EVERYTHING they see? They will go to school thinking it's good to touch little boys. You deny that? Children mimck everything. And you say this will have no influence on future society? then you nothing about families.
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro That's why boys and girls go to school and start touching each other?
coolthomas2011 1 year ago
Umm dude, what statistic even shows that children become gay from having same-sex parents? And last I checked, 90% of marriages are heterosexual...since homosexuality is only 10% of the human population. Ie. It will have no effect on families. None. Sorry dude, science wins over bigotry. Have a nice day.
Revan46 1 year ago
Could you be any more insulting?!?
Gays do not touch little children, they would not learn that from a gay house hold.
You have a very distorted and perverted view of gay people.
Blairtim69 1 year ago
@MidwestN8TV
Homosexuality is against the moral fiber of the family, church and society. Catholic Charities adoption agency is being force to comply with homosexual laws or go out of adoption placement. Children will suffer for this.
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro Catholic Charities needs to stop being a bunch of bigots. It is the pathetic Catholic church , not gay people, who are making the children suffer. The Catholic Church shouldn't have any members left for enabling priests to rape children, and transfering them to other parishes where the chuch knew they would rape more. What a pathetic excuse for a religion.
MidwestN8TV 1 year ago
@MidwestN8TV
You use hate terms and then completely excuse his homosexuality?
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro What the hell are you talking about?
MidwestN8TV 1 year ago
We raise healthy productive children and strengthen the institution of marriage.
Thank you for your support.
Blairtim69 1 year ago
And he's a fat liar. Fat on two counts. Maggie Gallagher is really fat on two counts. What a disgusting human being.
dennis3GS 1 year ago
Brian Brown is a disgusting human being hell bent on denying people love rights. He's the devil.
dennis3GS 1 year ago 7
Brian is getting FAT - eating his salary ah.......too bad brian - you lost..go have a doughnut.
rextrek 1 year ago
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ryukage99 1 year ago
Are you saying the only purpose to marriage is sex and procreation?
Perhaps that is the difference.
We believe marriage is a bond and oath taken before God, between two people who want to share their lives and families together.
I know straight people are sex crazed, with all the strip bars, sex clubs, and prostitutes they cater to, but that does not mean gay people are.
Blairtim69 1 year ago
Oh yeah after all it's straight people that are known to cruise public crappers for sex.
CHARESTHEHAMER 1 year ago
@CHARESTHEHAMER
I don't think they cruise bathrooms.
They have special bars and clubs for their infidelity and perverse behavior.
Or they can call escorts, or just pick up a hooker off the street.
Blairtim69 1 year ago
Gay people do and have all those things too.
But only they are know to cruise rest stops for crapper sex.
CHARESTHEHAMER 1 year ago
People are born gay. The only difference betweeen straight and gay is we are attracted to people of the same sex.
We Love, live, and work as everyone else.
What we do in the bed room is no more mundane or exciting as what straight people do.
Sex is a small part of most people's lives. there are straight and gay who become obsessed, but over all we are the same.
Blairtim69 1 year ago
No difference? HIV/AIDS of 2008 in heterosexuals VS. homosexuals (male to male) is 27% to 47% with homosexuals in the lead. That's 20% Difference.
What about the difference of Homosex equal 0% fertility and Hetero is 90% fertility. You talk about what you do in bed being no different? It does not create life. It has a higher disease rate. It is not even REAL INTERCOURSE.
You are lying and decieving the public. That's my only concern. the truth.
AVTPro 1 year ago
Actually if you look at the data the increase in High risk heteros is greater than MSM cases.
coolthomas2011 1 year ago
Gay americans are no different from other americans.
We work, raise families, pay taxes, and vote.
There is no reason we should not enjoy the same liberties as the rest of America.
Blairtim69 1 year ago 5
@Blairtim69 If they are no different then why do you call them gay, and why not homosexual since that is the difference. YOU are the one dividing human by their sexual behavior. You divide not multiply.
The rest of America CREATE families. You manipulate resource alotted to them. We are overcompensating and OverHealing like an overgrowth scab or keyliod. Heterosex ≠ Homosex. Genetics Biology and life says so. Two become one flesh (not strange). Share genes with your mate if you are equal.
AVTPro 1 year ago
A blonde and brunette are obviously "different," yet we're not "dividing" them just by giving them specific labels. The people who are "dividing" others are people like you who claim that the only purpose for marriage is to procreate. So I guess going by your "logic," we should deny infertile couples rights, too, eh?
A long time ago, the point of marriage was for the sake of the offspring. But guess what? It's 2010 now. It's time to grow up.
NintendoArielle 1 year ago
I didn't say the only purpose of Marriage is procreation. I said Marriage HAS a purpose and Procreation is a HUGE factor considering No one would GROW at all with Out Heterosexual procreation. Homosexual are only Heteros misbehaving. There is no such thing as a homosexual organ Only misappropriate hetero organs. You divide Humanity into groups based on sexual behavior then deny the only form of life known to humanity.
AVTPro 1 year ago
Here's what you said: "The rest of America CREATE families."
As for homosexuals being "misbehaving heterosexuals," well, I think that's enough evidence to point out how bigoted and homophobic you are. Also, with so many kids that need to be adopted, do we really need to focus on creating MORE families?
"There is no such thing as a homosexual organ Only misappropriate hetero organs."
Sexuality isn't an "organ." Looks like somebody fell asleep in anatomy class...
NintendoArielle 1 year ago
@AVTPro
You are the one bringing sex into the argument.
being gay is being attracted to the same sex. We naturally couple with a person of the same sex.
Sexual behavior has nothing to do with it. It is about love and bonding.
Why do you disregard our humanity?
Why are you obsessed with what people do in the bedroom?
Blairtim69 1 year ago
You are sorely missing the point. You say that there is no such thing as homosexuals. You deny the reality of millions of peoples lives who tell you differently, even the American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association and all such associations in Europe and other parts of the world. You obviously didn't watch the Proposition 8 Trial in California or you wouldn't be so ignorant.
mykelb 1 year ago 2
I find it hysterically funny that the host of the CBN show conducting the interview is CLEARLY a homosexual.
What a frickin' sellout!!! He should be ashamed at himself!
There sure isn't a shortage of right-wing, republican gay closet-cases fighting against any type of gay rights issues.
Talk about self-loathing!
westenmark 1 year ago
This man says "return marriage to one man and one woman". Like Gays getting married all of the sudden stops "traditional marriage" all together. OH!, and they now have to change the forms from saying "bride and groom". Uh, NO, they now will have a few extra forms catering to same sex couples. Again....This irrational threat from loving, commited gay couples! Get over it! They're not going to have their honeymoons on your front lawn!
beegbolt 1 year ago 2
Why are these people so against others' happiness and deserved rights, that have NOTHING to do with THEM? Voting on gay marriage is WRONG. Putting a small minorities granted rights up for popular (mob) vote is unfair, and that's why courts intervene. "Religious liberties" are threatened? Civil rights, and religious beliefs are supposed to be seperate. That's why ur Country's freedoms were created 200 years ago. Stop hating on the gays just because of your belief in 2,000 year old scripture!
beegbolt 1 year ago 5
nobody's forcing gays to deny their attractions. Nobody's criminalizing homosexuals acts or raiding gay marriages in churches. gays can freely express their feelings of love in a church and get all the benefits that come with marriage through civil unions. however, as soon as you step outside the private realm of RELIGIOUS marriage and enter into the public sphere of CIVIL marriage, you are subject to the law and public opinion or vote because civil marriage is about public policy.
kenballer00 1 year ago
Methinks Brian and the rest of NOM have secured themselves a place in bigot hell.
Shelbytown123 1 year ago 2
@Shelbytown123 Bigots and Homphobic...what other names do you have for people that confirm to lies?
For people how don't like to be called the "F" you send to be good with dishing them out.
AVTPro 1 year ago
You keep fighting Brian, you are not going to win. People are seeing through you bigotted unloving selfish fools. Again, fool, you don't put peoples rights up to a vote. If that were the case, we would vote to have you put away. Go get a live man.
theboybeagle69 1 year ago 5
@theboybeagle69 Who took your right to procreate with your partner? Try stealing a vote on that. You can deceive man but not God.
AVTPro 1 year ago
There is no god, so that argument doesn't work man.
theboybeagle69 1 year ago
God doesn't get a vote.
mykelb 1 year ago
In the name of Unity you divide Marriage into two parts as if their is two forms of humanity. In the name of love you group and classify by sex the lowest base of humanity. Love is not physicality. it's is spiritual. God is love. Prove one and you have proven the other. God said, Multiply not Divide.
AVTPro 1 year ago
Wow. You can't even form a comprehensible sentence. How can someone so ignorant as yourself even speak in a public forum? I would be embarassed.
mykelb 1 year ago
I am concerned when those with special interests can come in and change laws without representation.
AdAequitas 1 year ago
Providing health care to a gay or lesbian partner -- a basic human right, according to Church teaching -- is an end in itself and no more legitimizes that marriage than giving communion to a divorced person legitimizes divorce, or giving food or shelter to an alcoholic legitimizes alcoholism. They are full of S. NOMers just want to fight gays, they are in now way an orginization for marriage. They should be NAG, National organization Against Gays.
RCinSoCal2 1 year ago 3
The rights of a minority should never be up for debate. Fuck all the Christian bigots stuck in the middle ages... I can't wait until all the old uneducated homophobes are dead.
fornss 1 year ago 6
It isn't only the Christians who are bigots, it's also Muslim, Jewish, Baha'i s as well
Paulwhoisvegan 1 year ago
well said
kz10863 1 year ago
Amazing. Such hate fillled people the homosexes people are.
AVTPro 1 year ago
It is not hate, it is anger. There is a difference.
I don't hate you, I don't know you at all.
Your comments make me angry.
They are degrading, insulting, and filled with hate.
We will have our rights and our Liberty!
Blairtim69 1 year ago 3
@Blairtim69 You can admit to angry, deny hate yet in the same breath ACCUSE me of HATE when I never used any hateful words.? Is your whole life a contradiction.
Marriage is not a right. It's a privilege so is life.
AVTPro 1 year ago
You made a few comments that degrade myself and other gay Americans.
Marriage provides many rights most Americans enjoy.
Inheritance rights and medical rights are the two biggest.
Except for religious reasons (which can be greatly debated), there is no reason to deny gays the right to marry.
Blairtim69 1 year ago 5
@Blairtim69 If you are degraded, it's your own conviction to the truth, I have said nothing abusive. So don't accuse me of it falsehoods.
Second, two men performing sexual acts on each other has no more right to benefits of marriage than a single man masturbating in a room alone. Neither creates life, builds the nation or community. There is no reason to compensate either. Neither are having real intercourse or real sex.
If anyone, "Celibate" should get a tax break for not spreading disease.
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro
Most of what you have said is degrading and abusive.
You have basically said gays are incapable of Love, and humanity.
You have taken people who Love, live, work, and share a family together, and made us into just sex obsessed animals.
How am I not to be offended by your disregard for my basic humanity.
Blairtim69 1 year ago
Homosex does not create humans. It's inhumanity laws. Two species that can not create or share genes is form of bestiality. Black would be still be considered subhuman if they could not mate with Whites.
There is no humanity when people say they are controlled by sex. When they justify their behavior by likening it to animals. It's inhumanity laws you seek which do not create humans.
AVTPro 1 year ago
Wait, wait, wait. You're saying that two same-sex adults having consensual sex is the definition of bestiality?
Holy fuck, you are ignorant.
"Black would be still be considered subhuman if they could not mate with Whites."
Great to know that you're racist, too.
"There is no humanity when people say they are controlled by sex."
How do you know that gays are "controlled by sex?" That's no more accurate than heterosexuals being "controlled by sex." Tiger Woods, anyone?
NintendoArielle 1 year ago
@NintendoArielle I'm saying it's a reason why your chromosomes are incompatible with your sexual partner. It's strange flesh. That's an actually fact of life, not my opinion. You are ignorant to not know basic biology and hateful to call me bigot. It's basic truth. Says it in the blble. Men seeking men is strange flesh. Only a women are genetically compatible to men. Bone of my bone, Flesh of my flesh. A man having sex with a man he might as well be have sex with a cow. Strange flesh.
AVTPro 1 year ago
If by "incompatible" you mean being able to reproduce, then I guess infertile couples should be "having sex with cows," too, eh?
Anyway, no, I am not the ignorant one here. At least I'm down-to-earth and realize that love isn't just fucking for babies; it's about emotional compatibility and wanting to spend the rest of your life with a person you love, regardless of gender. That has nothing to do with biology.
You are the hateful one, so don't turn the fucking tables on me. And fuck the bible.
NintendoArielle 1 year ago
Infertile couples are heterosexuals incapable of procreations. Homosexuals are NOT INFERTLE because NO homosexual is CAPABLE of procreaction with their Mate EVER. Youre not qualified to compare yourself form of sex to heteros or intercourse. It's not intercourse is sodomy. Homosex can be no more fertile than masturbation.
If you call any from of sex..."love" then you ignorant. Prove love you Prove God. God is Love.
AVTPro 1 year ago
Actually, you're wrong about homosexual sex not leading to offspring. There are some species which have only females (such as whiptail lizards). So are they "wrong" for fucking each other?
Marriage is not just for people who want kids. There are many more people nowadays who choose to be childless or cannot have children.
You're the one making out procreation to be "love," hypocrite. Oh, and I don't believe in a god, but I do think that your view of God is distorted and bigoted.
NintendoArielle 1 year ago
@NintendoArielle Don't forget about Godzilla!!!
coolthomas2011 1 year ago
i encourage you to type in "Alan Keye's argument" and watch the video where Alan answers and refutes these type of arguments about the infertile and other situations just like it
kenballer00 1 year ago
@AVTPro Therein lies the huge problem - you want to deny people their rights because of something that YOU believe, but that you can't prove. Religion has been responsible for justifying slavery, the 2 wars we are fighting now in the Middle East, oppression of women, and treating gay people like crap. For something that can't be proven, it's sure caused a lot of pain for so many people. And who really cares about procreation any more? with over 6 BILLION people, we can not sustain more.
MidwestN8TV 1 year ago 2
@MidwestN8TV I do no deny anyone their right. Marriage is not a RIGHT it's a privilege just like procreation. Who deny homosexuality the the ablility to create life? Who?
How can you truthfully say that homosexuality is marriageable but incest is not? By your loose moral standards you deny brother and sister but two men are OK?
I have nothing against anyones human right but we place more physical qualification on a drivers license, yet marriage has no qualification? Try truth man.
AVTPro 1 year ago
Marriage is not a "privilege" when you take into account that marriage gives couples rights that non-married couples don't have, such as visitation in the hospital and inheritance. Marriage is not solely for the purpose of procreation anymore. Get with the times and stop dehumanizing people as sperm donators and incubators.
Actually, incestuous couples can get married in some states, and I think that it should be allowed (though they shouldn't have kids since they might have genetic issues).
NintendoArielle 1 year ago
Marriage is a civil contract. If you truly believe in the U.S. Constituion as being the law of the land (not your buybull) then you must acquiesce to the fact that under civil law and the fourteenth amendment to our Constitution, LGBT people must be treated equally under the law because they are citizens too. If you can follow the logic, you will then have to agree that civil marriage must be extended to all consenting adults, not just the heterosexual ones.
mykelb 1 year ago
if you Go to Wikipedia and type in Baker v. Nelson, The case will show you that the same court in Loving v Virginia not only distinguished same sex marriage from interracial marriage, but established it as a right that does not exist under the constitution and never did. so the 14th amendment does not confer a RIGHT to gay marriage anymore than it does for polygamy
kenballer00 1 year ago
@kenballer00 Exactly marriage is not a human right. Just because you are human does not mean you can marry another. it's not even gender based it's moral. Brothers and sisters can't marry. Polygamy is as normal societal mores and so is Homosexuality. It does not benefit society for them to be marriage. Homosex has to be supplement with heterosex in the case of babes and partners. Homosex is not in any self sufficient or it is depend on heterosexuality for survival. it's as subset of heteros.
AVTPro 1 year ago
@AVTPro see thats where youre wrong, love is very real
however god is not
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 Not even heteros are foolish to say marriage is just about love. What is love? God is Love. Sex is not love. Homos want property/exemptions and the holiness/honor for a sin/immoral sexstyle.
AVTPro 1 year ago
It is not hateful to call an insulting, degrading, person who tries to dehumanize people, because they are different a bigot.
You are a bigot. Look it up.
Blairtim69 1 year ago
You are the only using insults. I am not intimated by your name calling.
AVTPro 1 year ago
You have been nothing but insulting in almost every post.
you dehumanize gay people.
You try to seperate us from our humanity, so you can justify the discrimination we receive.
AIDS first affected gay people in the U.S. because we are such a closed minority it stayed mostly in the gay community.
Aids is not a gay disease.
It affects mostly straight people when you look at the world.
Your hate bigotry, and fear, allows you to see us as less than human.
Blairtim69 1 year ago
You manipulate people into things this a second chance to REDEEM themselves from the guilt of SLAVERY by defending SODOMY.
You fail at manipulating GUILT RIDDEN white people with RACIST TERMS. You sling around racist terms to defend sexual immorality. You try to SCARE white people into believing this is justification for Slavery by defending sodomy. Homosexual Activity has nothing to do with rasicm.
Fact, 70% of all people already dead from AIDS were homosexual. Google it.
AVTPro 1 year ago
You are an accuser and hate monger to SCARE Whites who already hurting from guilt with slavery with the term bigot . They are already ashamed and use stab them for sex indiscretion that in no way promotes humanity. You dehumanize yourself saying human are only sexual as animals.
I don't hate you. I love you. I hate to see so many people dying of AIDS and then you ask me to condone more of the same through the promotion of homosexual behavior in schools, and make it state laws.
AVTPro 1 year ago
Guess you forgot about all those heterosexual AIDS cases in Africa, huh? You really should educate yourself on this subject before you open your ignorant mouth. In subSaharan Africa 60% of the ENTIRE POPULATION HAS HIV. Are you trying to tell me that all of those peoplel are gay? YOU'RE SO IGNORANT on this subject.
mykelb 1 year ago
The bible wasn't written by scientists you idiot. It was written by nomadic jews 5000 years ago when there was no science and only superstition. You're a fool for following that pack of fables and superstitions above what is plainly empirical evidence against all that malarky.
mykelb 1 year ago
@AVTPro - go fuck yourself.
rextrek 1 year ago 3
How did homosexual ever get the name gay? So hateful.
AVTPro 1 year ago
The term gay was originally a code word used by homosexuals in order to protect themselves from prosecution.
coolthomas2011 1 year ago
Wait a second...in California they yell at judges for legislating from the bench, and now when judges refuse to get involved they're disappointed? Get your story straight, NOM.
mulinlin7 1 year ago 2
Jesus was betrayed by a kiss. By a gesture of love He was stripped of his rights. A physical act of love divided love, not united. Under the guise of love He was sent to his death. Carnality camouflaged as love was use to condemn the spiritual author of love. Don't confuse sex with love, less you betrayed by love, stripped of your right to vote in the name of love
AVTPro 1 year ago
The constitutional rights of minorities should not be put to a popular vote. This is why we have a constitution.
SpeedyBruin 1 year ago 3
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AVTPro 1 year ago
Marriage is not a constitutional right. You have to qualify for it like any license. Homosexual no more qualify for marriage as they do for procreating with their mate. Not all heterosexual qualify for marriage. It's not a right. A brother and sister is disqualified from marriage just as two men from procreation. It's truth based on life., just like anal sex and oral wont get anyone pregnant... Male nor Female. Life is not discriminatory
AVTPro 1 year ago
If Marriage was based on procreation & life, then Barron Infertile couples would be "Disqualified" from marriage, & also would senor citizens, women past menopause, & couples who dont intend to have children, yet that is not the case at all. There are many married couples who don't want children, & their are those who have too many & cant afford to care for them. Then their are those who abuse, neglect & even murder their own children. Homosexes might be full of hate, but U r full of ignorance.
5SpicyBitches 1 year ago
I didn't say Marriage is based on procreation. I do say LIFE itself is based on heterosexuality. No homo on the face of this planet would exist without heterosexuality. No homo will ever mix gene with their mate. Homosexuality is nonexistent without heterosexuality. It is not equal it is a subset heterosexuality. The results of the two are not equal. Homosexuality does not further marriage or life in any manner. You are stealing privileges that do not belong to you.
AVTPro 1 year ago
@5SpicyBitches
i encourage you to type in "Alan Keye's argument" and watch the video where Alan answers and refutes these type of arguments about the infertile and other situations just like it
kenballer00 1 year ago
Jesus also condoned Murderer:
"So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead"(From the NIV Bible, Revelation 2:22-23)
5SpicyBitches 1 year ago
Haha! Decieveth aren't we? Only one verse before.
"I have given her time to repent of her IMMORALITY, but she is unwilling."—Revelation 2:21
thanks for your comment.
AVTPro 1 year ago
So Jesus says it's OKAY to MURDER someone just as long as you let them repent before you kill them, even though the bible specifically says "Thou shall not murder"? Way to be contradictory.The Bible makes as much sense as a Jewish Nazi,or a black KKK Member, or a PETA member wearing fur.
5SpicyBitches 1 year ago
That's foolishness. Go read the bible.
AVTPro 1 year ago
that "Foolishness" IS from the bible.
5SpicyBitches 1 year ago
ha, you got owned!
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
Can't win in court? Lie and deceive the voters!
Religious liberty: discriminate; spread the hate.
DJKatAnimated 1 year ago 3