1980's Taiwan Full Contact Tournament (1of6)

[headroom007]

Dam the MMA has come so far.....

[nintendowifi1]

@headroom007 what do you mean?



[patrickmanfred]

Nice Pa gua

[Ebis77]

there are no punches to the head they seem not to be allowed here

[khmerbraveheart]

SHUT UP FOO! You kill my master! I will get you back with tiger fist!

[vietboy482]

fighting styles were very interesting back in those days...

[samstterhamstteer]

whats with the power rangers going at it

[dylanhazard]

where do all these dumb ass new age mma fighters think their techniques came from?oh only mma has grappling and locks....rrrriiiigggghhhhhtttt­t,you can learn all that at a good...well any traditional martial art of any kind,because it was originally meant for real life battle street and military,so schools that still have roots to the old ways will teach everything mma fighters now + a lot more.

[trounds2]

@dylanhazard Thank you!! I get sick of the dumb ass new age mma fighters with their nonsense as well...

[jacob3432]

@dylanhazard mma as the name suggests combine techniques from many styles. its only logic that a combination of styles would be superior to any single style.

[JVThrillz]

@dylanhazard Go fight a dumb ass new age MMA fighter then.

[tagaEskinita]

having said that. There are less rules on MMA so it would be unfair :(

[tagaEskinita]

man, a modern MMA title fighter would probably waste all of them combined

[trounds2]

@tagaEskinita are you serious? MMA has rules designed to make wrestlers (usually white boys) look like they can fight, because in a real fight with no rules, they get their asses kicked. You can't kick a downed opponent (so those sissy wrestlers are safe from getting their ass kicked); no hitting in the back of the head (so when those sissy wrestlers grab you, they are safe from getting their ass kicked); no pressure point strikes, you know why. Modern MMA fighters would get wasted.

[Hossetheboss1000]

@trounds2

Wrestling and the word sissy don't mix well. Wrestlers are some of the best conditioned athlets in the world.

[TheHobophobic]

@trounds2

Yeah, these no strikes to the face, match breaking everytime someone's back hits the mat rules are totally brutal, way tougher than ground and pound and submission.

[ruggilaros]

very shit combat

[alkafx]

when it comes down to it its all about grappling for 1v1's. kung fu and all the other bs u learn in public won't do any justice

[funk141]

Yeh only if your not allowed to eye gauge, strike the throat or groin area or even biting. What i'm trying to say is that take the rules away and grappling is the last place you'd wanna be with somebody who really wants a fight

[alkafx]

actually grappling is the best thing id want to learn in a real fight ill grapple the groin and toss them

[jdtwk123]

The problem with that attitude is that it assumes: 1. That the other person also doesn't know any grappling or anti-grappling techniques, 2. that the other person is physically weaker than you.

Remember that what tihs is here is still almost entirely sport, not real fighting. Its not like on the street where if you actually try to come in and grab me I can strike to your throat, or jab right into your eyes. The old karate/kungfu arts were not made to play, this is.

[GuamKomudo]

Yeah, Goju-Ryu actually has LOTS of grappling, tons of locks, MANY things that are not alowed in MMA. MMA is a good idea, but like Bruce Lee did, mix styles, but once it becomes a sport... That's pretty much the end of the combat art. Like Taekwondo was and is good, but the sport has killed it.

[imbrd]

please dont confuse mma w/ ufc or some cage sport. Most if not all martial arts & artists r in some way or another- a 'mixed martial artist'.

But ufc is just really a kind of cage 'fight sport' mainly dedicated to fame & entertainment

[GuamKomudo]

UFC is MMA, I understand what you mean, but UFC is the NFL of fighting. The NFL is the NFL, but their sport is still American Football. UFC is just the name givin to the organization of that MMA group. It's still MMA... Just like NFL is still football

[TwistedSynthetics]

Yeah, you grapple that groin -thumbs up-

[jdtwk123]

To grapple, you have to come in close and grab the other person. In real karate, we love it when people do that, because it puts everything in range, and also makes a person very vulnerable as they move in and try to gain a hold. It is very easy to strike painful and vital places when they do.

[gino800]

@alkafx

of course but dont neglect striking cause ANYONE can get knocked out by a good hit

[ph33ric]

well.... you cant deny the person with the beter striking will win if the 2 guys both are good graplers.

[goodforthemoney]

These guys were bad.

[trevorhirby]

Im not being prejudice when I say this, but was the man in the blue african or just old camera quality?

[Cr0okKid]

he's black look at the end of the video when he's standing still.

[MerumMinus88]

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ridiculo

[fraud66]

GAy no heading the head rule.

[Hellskin101]

I have no idea with what ruleset they are fighting but its funny to see howmuch martial arts have improved the past 20 years.

I'd bet that a mediorce kickboxer from an avarage dutch dojo would be able to beat these guys easy (although that depends much on the rules/scoring system)

[dirtyjew1974]

well in a streetfight i would imagine the dutch kickboxer would beat both at the same time lol

[lordtains]

The black man's doing Baguazhang....god knows what the guy in yellow's doing.

I don't think the black guy's very good. But it isn't an attacking system so of course its not good in the ring.

[DangerousKJL]

The guy in the yellow appeared to be combining Shaio Chiao and "Cowboy Movie" punching!

[wolfram49]

@lordtains The black guy was a first-year student of Park Bok Nam. I can't recall his name, but my former brothers in Park's school tell me that he had been training for maybe six months at this point. He's not doing bad at all, IMHO, for that period of training.

[billysue2]

typical example of trad fellas not being able to fight due to their traing.Once they started hitting each other there was no kung fu shit going on,wouldnt even know they had any training.

[karoneprincess1]

Both put up a good fight so far. The yellow guy seems attack more at the right time however the blue guy seems strong. Both are good. At the end, both breath in really hard, I guess they a bit tired.

[iLife88]

theres only one Chinese martial arts thats good in the ring, and thats sanda/sanshou

[datsik433]

does anybody remember the chi documentary that was on the same video as the bruce lee one were the chi proffesor lets his students kick him in the balls?????

[dirtyjew1974]

i know what your talking about but there are a special type of shorts worn under the gi so that when the legs are spread apart it creats tension and the kick cant penetrat...the ball kicking is a hoax, theres no way to train the balls to absorb punishment unless he had no balls lol.

[datsik433]

@dirtyjew1974 cool!!!

Do you know the name of that documentary as it was well funny & I want to see if I can download it from anywere????

[dirtyjew1974]

im not sure what documentery your talking about

[datsik433]

@dirtyjew1974 the one which had a chi proffesor american letting his students punch him in the neck & kick himin the nuts

[doctavious]

That's not true. You only limit yourself by the thoughts you create.

[dirtyjew1974]

it is true..i know someone who used to use that trick in siminars and i know what the shorts look like, as i said...one cant train balls or condition balls, they only serve 1 purpose and its not for kicking lol. just think, if someone swung a sword at the other guys head do you really think that his thoughts of beign limmitless will help his head stay in tact? well i would hope not lol.

[fhpham]

Anatomically, there is a muscle within the scrotum sac - called the dartos muscle, which, after much practise, can be controlled to pull the testicles up inside the pelvis. This is how these hard core martial artists can take blows to the groin. To you and me, the dartos muscle is an involuntary muscle, which shrivels up your scrotum when the weather gets a bit chilly!

[dirtyjew1974]

interesting to hear but im not sure that would be enought to keep away the effects from a full on kick to the balls lol, the abdominal muscles are much larger than the one you speak of and it would be very tough to take a full on kick to the abdomen much less the nuts lol..interesting though and i didnt know of a muscle there lol.

[fhpham]

It is not necessarily the size of the muscle that gives it its strength. e.g Your leg muscles are strong, but they do not exert as much force as your fingers! You can squeeze your fist together more tightly than you can flex or extend your legs! Try it on your bathroom scales! The dartos muscle pulls the testicles INTO the pelvis, therefore, a blow to the groin is a kick to the pelvic bone, not the "nuts"!...

[GuamKomudo]

Most powerful kicks come from your hips more then your legs, but its a combination of your leg muscles working with your hip muscles that make the kick very powerful. Plus, about the "nuts" your testicals are what hurts, not the bone... Your testicals have more nerves on them then the rest of your body put together, thats why it hurts.

[fhpham]

...Regarding your comment about not being able to take a blow to the abdomen: Well conditioned muscle (abdominal or elsewhere) can be strong enough to take a few very hard blows. This is proven in the case when a ligament is torn/damaged in a joint. Normally, the joint is now vulnerable to further injury. However, a well conditioned muscular joint could compensate for the lost ligament, by taking over the stability of that joint. The muscle must therefore be very strong to do this. Good day!

[chrisdotwynn]

lol, I would agree. I don't want a kick in my ball sack, EVEN if I could somehow suck my nuts into my gut.

Also, lets say I mastered this technique, and I could indeed get my gonads into my stomach. Then, a kick to the gut would feel like a kick to the ballz, AND to the gut, so thats twice the pain,lol!

[dirtyjew1974]

lolol, you know ive never thought of it like that but i think your right lol..it probably would hurt twice as bad lol

[fhpham]

@chrisdotwynn LOL, that's a funny comment! When the testicles are sucked into the pelvis, it remains in the bony part of the pelvis, and it does not go as far up as the stomach region (known anatomically as the abdomen). 

[Darkmessenger1000]

notice how people always talk crap over the net?

[stfuwk]

finally some one with a brain :D

[MrBabacool1109]

ha! ha! trop drole le black, il tourne un film ou quoi??? MDR!!!

[bumfightgreg88]

same moves ass chick fight

[DrifterXion]

I'm not really sure exactly hot skilled these guys are. Their movements dont look very clean. cant tell if its because they are equally skilled or if they arent very strong or if its simply due to difference in style.

[Marlockie]

Probly thier first time fighting in a tourny, looks like anyone fighting. put 2 people who don't know how to fight, and this is them, lol.. not to say I'd fair better in a fight like this, but yeah.

[ballah112]

full contact???these fools couldnt hurt a fly

[JoeJedi75]

..1:24 "Wait my shoe is gone.." I`ll try this a streetfight sometime, will see what`s happen then ;)

.. Very interesting and rare, to see traditional Fighting styles are practise in full contact..

[chongbe27]

This is Silat vs Kugfu.

[MudDNo]

its not silat, that much i can tell u

[dimebag5462]

Dude Fuuc... W.W.F....Forget U.F.C I want a Televized Ninja/Kung Fu style sport fighting event

[pulsegang]

there are but there not so mainstream and all that ego bullshit

[mikeclark313]

Is it me or did it seem like the black guy was beating the other guy but the other guy was the winner?

[TheouAegis]

If you're implying the judges were racist, then you're wrong. The yellow dude (... that sounds even more racist) landed many more blows. If this were a video game, the black dude would have been KO'ed. Many of the black dude's attacks were evaded, but the camera angle made it hard to tell.

[Wnunyuie]

yeah at least in the begining...but who knows the point scoring system of this stuff rite?

[Aheyne]

Is the man in the navy blue Glenn Wright? Student of Park Bok Nam?

[GuamKomudo]

I dont know what style these guys are doing... I dont like this video, give people the wrong idea of Kung fu...

[eladorn]

The black guy thinks he is doing Bagua. Is he wearing white gloves?

[HiroIndo16]

hey come one guys, this vid was taken in 1980. what do you expect?

[JVThrillz]

I thought it was full contact. No one's hitting anyone in the face. This sucks guys, let's go watch something else.

D:

[oyu8]

THESE GUYS SUCK FAT DICKS.

[blueprophet9]

hahahahahaha!!

[thugriderforlife]

this proves that kung fu isn't as beautifull as in the movies.

bruce lee would ko these guys both in 5 seconds.

[SurreallTV]

well...i WOULD agree...BUT. The reality of this is..........in this video, these Martial artists are VERY mediocre and Not really gifted in fighting. If they were really Good and Profficient in Kung fu (or any Technical martial art)....some reallll good lookin shit coulda happened...SEVERAL times......i saw SO many openings to block and do joint locks, throws....(not even includin strikeing and etx).

These dudes were just Mediocre...and da black dude looks like a joke LOL

[SurreallTV]

yea n bruce WOULD KO these clowns tho LOL..

and still...dat black dude looks like a dam Cartoon Character....he really doin some Disney lookin movements lol..

[thugriderforlife]

he looks like a mime, i think he gotta give up kung fu and do something he's good in.

[MyCrownOfWorms]

real kung fu doesn't look nice, if it's all pretty then you're doing something wrong!

[FLpolo]

look at dragonfly jones!lol

[zagui33]

LOL sweet moves of the hands ... like a bird flying in the blue sky .... LOL LOL LMAO !!!!

[Kirkinho1]

hmm people don't realize how hard it is to apply stuff you have learned in a actual fight it is way different and hard because no fight is the same and no fighter is the same

[orfeopn]

ghey...they have no real skill

[MockEmpire]

you're ignorant of your ignorance my friend!

[qqwass]

rubbish

[intoccabile]

LOLOLOl this is hilarious

[Heratiochristofisson]

this isnt professional !!! fuck yew those faggots was panicking as they're attacking each other.

[nextel888]

this is not full contact, they not allow to hit on face.

[thugriderforlife]

ok kill yourself man for saying that maybe its not allowed to hit on the face but you can still hit full contact on the body just like in kyokushin karate.

[bubaflex]

im sorry this is a well gay fight stoping it all the time totaly unrealistic

[ThePedoBrothers]

WHAT THE HELL THE BLACK GUY LOST!!!

[ThePedoBrothers]

UNFAIR!!!!

[mightydavefish]

What's with the gloves?

[SouthOx]

well it is the 80's and maybe the dude wanted to add a little soul and do his thang

[itsabomberscope]

this is bruce lee v jim kelly the early years lol :)

[drebranco]

These guys are very skilled, GREAT FIGHT!

[Chinglao420]

haha at 4:06 the guy actuly says "ching chong", i thought that was just some made up play ground crap that kids say to asians

[mightydavefish]

Retard.

[z3r006]

its shan shou rules

[phrij]

What competition is this? And what styles are they? The guy in the dark suit looks like he comes from pakua or something... I'm curious to know what the rules are.

[DPGDPG]

This is a full contact tournament in Taiwan. Some of these clips are from the late 70's or mid 80's. The narrator said the guy in the blue is pakua. Someone told me what the rules were, but I forgot. I believe one of the rules were no strikes to the head.

[IronJackalTw]

What competition!? More like girl fights to me!!

Oh yeah, it is 'gossip slapping' if you want to know the name of this gay fighting style... haha!!

[phrij]

Okay, so it looks woosier than the UFC -well, they don't allow strikes to the head and it's really a sport to help practioners see how effect their art is...I'm not going to compare ping-pong with tennis, they're just different rules/conditions etc...

[IronJackalTw]

Taiwanese men don't NEED to learn this useless gay crap. Don't ever forget practioners of this art run their loser asses from Japanese and then Mao's anti-traditional Chinese force!

[ace52387]

please don't be stupid. Every competition has rules. If you've ever seen the weird no head strike karate competition, it's not that different. Offense just isn't awarded that much. Did you see the yellow guy's punches? Good luck doing better.

[IronJackalTw]

Ace52387, go punch more of your ghosts and pretend you know what combat is all about!! BTW, karate is another combat art that suck ass now because it's only a sport now! Most kickers of that kind of sport will have a hell of time fighting against a good boxer that knows how to throw hard hitting jabs and straight!!

[ace52387]

Oh? The couch potato martial artist replies? You clearly don't understand martial arts at all, only what you see on youtube and kickboxing matches probably. But that's fine, i'll humor you.

[ace52387]

It's called form practice, maybe you're unfamiliar with it, but i'll tell you its practicalities. not everyone has access to a sparring partner all the time. you can't go all out against a sparring partner when you have no gear. Not every move can be practiced w/ a bag. Form practice works on your aggression, as well as your body coordination. Boxers learn perfect their jabs and straights by getting their coordination right.

[ace52387]

wait so you like boxing? Cuz boxing has no rules or anything...

[csdani0018]

wut u mean it has no rule

it has to in order to be standardized

[ace52387]

sarcasm...

[csdani0018]

hahahaaa lool

yeah

[sengokou]

you obviously know as much of taiwanese/chinese history as you do about martial arts. The communist forces bombarded taiwan NEVER setting foot even on jin men, the closest taiwanese controlled island to the chinese mainland let alone taiwan itself. and the cultutal revolution was 20 years AFTER the nationalists fled china to taiwan.