@SC2ElmOKnowS yup. so now its bio only. and they even say in the patchnotes that they dont want mass thors cause they look stupid cause they re too big.
and lol @ chill for saying that strike cannon anihilates collossi. with charge on the zealots it would never have happened. + he could only use strike cannons when the fight was already over. the pathetic range of the strike cannon makes the spell useless.
@tuestresfat yeah you are right... i should... would be alot more entertaining. tho, alot more insulting, thats why no one would like me to cast.. they would just flame me for being childish and unmannered :D
@sor3999 I guess you must have liked game 1 of Goody vs. Naniwa than ^^ Was pretty awesome how heavy Mech (+Viking) can apply insane pressure once it wins a big fight.
tyler just reacted wrong its not easy to just go mass thor helion as you guys would think.. Toss can crank out much more immortals than you can crank out thors had tyler just gone for a heavier immortal composition his timing attack would be much earlier than thorzain not allowing thorzain to have that critical amount of thors + when you lose your mech army you lose it... it takes forever to remake a mech army
it might take forever to remake a mech army, but it also takes forever for a protoss army to destroy a mech army. Thors break forcefields rendering all the sentries useless, splash from the thors makes zealots worthless, vikings snipes collossi which is the heavy support for the gateway units, zealots and stalkers just melt against thors. Don't forgot, blue terran had +2 armor for mech meaning they can take quite alot of hits and i think i saw a few scvs in the back repairing
so that just makes the thors survive even longer. Mech is the strongest build terran can go right now, especially against protoss and to a lesser extent, against zerg
I'm soo stealing this build from ThorZaIN. Gonna have to incorporate a few ghosts in there though, immortals will be tough to deal with when mass thors are in play. :o
Scout mech, toss response: keep going anti low hp units build. Get raped, toss response nº2: try again with imortals ( that get hammered by thor helion ) that counter tank.
This game proves how weak toss players are, note to toss, next time you see that comp try to go for mass void and magic box a bit...
Nice to see a toss army getting pumbled for a change instead of the ridiculous A move toss wins it all
@xloRelas You're so dumb. Hellions are shit versus Immortals, Colossi actually beat Thors in mass because of the range and mobility of Colossi that doesn't allow all the Thors to attack while the Colossi can. Not many people (if any) know the proper unit composition to deal with late game mech. The proper response is to never let it kick in because once they reach critical mass, they do a ridiculous amount of damage. And Void Rays are useless when you have constant reactored Viking production.
facing to the 250 mm cannons neither immo nor collo is the solution for sure. charge zealot and blink stalker is the way to go to take over thor+helion. Just think abt how many collossi he made and what if those resources on zealots.
Immos are really hard counter to thors. But yes ofcourse protoss are supposed to win when the opponent has the perfect unit composition and hes going for some anti bio build without changing the build in any way after scouting the thors. But of course one build is supposed to counter everything, sure.
@Jonereator2 Fun Fact 3-3 Thor beats 3-3 Immortal lol (not a 3-3-3 btw :P). I'll not call the immortal hard counter but just a counter (expecially due to the 250 mm cannon). I agree with you btw Tyler should've changed his build when he saw the thors. It's alla about unit composition. Mech can be viable in this match up.
Ok youre right :P Immos are not THAT good but they are a bit cheaper so they are worth getting vs Thors, he went waaaaaay to heavy on the collosi. Collosus can be a pretty good counter vs the thors with some zealot support but the Thorzain just had to many + the helions roasted the zealots in a sec.
@Jonereator2 Agreed on everything you said. I still think that Carriers are the way vs Mech but they are too expencive and all that vikings make them soo sad ='(
@Jonereator2 immos arent a hard counter...in 1v1 i think actually the thor pulls ahead (or maybe other way around but very slightly). id say voids are better hard counter, thors aa is joke vs. armored.
I hate how the casters of the TSL3 pretend that this is live. I watched it when it was live on UStream and Thorzain needed to pause to change a hotkey, and Day9 was all like "WOAH THAT WAS THE FASTEST PAUSE I HAVE EVER SEEN." Then I believe at the end of the WhiteRa-MC series, Day9 also said that they were getting word from the Refs if WhiteRa dc'd or not. You can see by the end of each game that it says "Replay Complete." The games are awesome, the casting is great, it just bugs me a little.
Blink Stalker + Immortal + High Templar and a Sentry or two would've worked better for Tyler. Blink Stalkers + a few force fields to protect the HTs and Immortal Hardened Shields from the Hellions, feedback spam to negate the Strike Cannons from the Thors, Immortals as the main fighting unit vs. the Thors.
@Horegutten123123 blizzard just gave the thors energy again in the recent 1.3.3 patch. they started out with energy in the beta, then the energy got taken away, now they have energy again
want to know what's wrong? Tyler played way too passively, he played the same boring style as he showed on his stream, 1 gate, 1 robo, expo and 2 additional gates, and stuck there forever, making 3 units & 1 colosus at a time.
At 13-14 min into a game, a good protoss is supposed to have a gateway explosion (at least into 8-9 gates) before attack so that a shitload of unit can be warped in faster for reinforcement. Those 3 factories in the main was so easy to deal with blink harass early on.
if u go thor hellion 3 fact is enough in 2 base
SuperMario748 1 day ago
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww nice!!
agostinho1234 6 months ago
protoss still op
TaintedFaith88 7 months ago
Because of US gambling laws.
DeeStylistic 8 months ago
Whats up with the whole "if you are not a US citizen then you can win..."?
TheEnictobi 9 months ago
This is the reason Thors have their energy back.
GLainesse 9 months ago
@GLainesse dont get why they did get the energy back now there is less stuff whe can go against protoss and protoss is more op than ever
swbf2fan2510 7 months ago
@GLainesse just tyler that sucks
swbf2fan2510 1 month ago
Why can't a US citizen apply for the raffle? QQ. I'd love to go to Korea and see some pro's play. I love how eSports is so supported over there.
Lazris59 9 months ago
Toss getting steamrolled by mech off 3 fact is humiliation.
1point61803 9 months ago
This strategy will go down the drain, if Blizzard make the ptr patch 1.3.3 go live
SC2ElmOKnowS 9 months ago
@SC2ElmOKnowS yup. so now its bio only. and they even say in the patchnotes that they dont want mass thors cause they look stupid cause they re too big.
omnissient 9 months ago
Thumbs up if you write down this strategy and test it :D
jontehockey33 9 months ago
and lol @ chill for saying that strike cannon anihilates collossi. with charge on the zealots it would never have happened. + he could only use strike cannons when the fight was already over. the pathetic range of the strike cannon makes the spell useless.
Sh4ft07 10 months ago
@Sh4ft07 you are an amazing analyst, why don't you go commentate tournaments?
tuestresfat 10 months ago
@tuestresfat yeah you are right... i should... would be alot more entertaining. tho, alot more insulting, thats why no one would like me to cast.. they would just flame me for being childish and unmannered :D
Sh4ft07 10 months ago
strike cannon is so useless...
Sh4ft07 10 months ago
@Sh4ft07 your mom is useless but i still youse her :D
swbf2fan2510 7 months ago
wow, awesome strike cannons O.o
zq42black 10 months ago
And they say bio is the onlu viable mix for terran. Lazy ass terrans. So glad to see terrans using anything but mass bio.
sor3999 10 months ago
@sor3999 I guess you must have liked game 1 of Goody vs. Naniwa than ^^ Was pretty awesome how heavy Mech (+Viking) can apply insane pressure once it wins a big fight.
sitrilko 10 months ago
Strike cannon looks pretty awesome against such a mass army
starfox300 10 months ago
sooo why didn't tylor make high templars to almost one shot all those thors is beyond me....feedback spam into archon tanks = profit.
Humaster 10 months ago
@Humaster its just that thors dont have energy anymore
ch1ppR 10 months ago
@ch1ppR Really? Damn, that is wicked retarded. Maybe I should install the game again sometime.
Humaster 10 months ago
@Humaster don't bother, you'll just ragequit after getting owned while doing something you thought was OP
redryan20000 10 months ago
@Humaster u are waaaay out of update, thors have no energy since looong time ago
jerryoliva123456789 10 months ago
Tyler looks like he's going to Fing kill someone in that picture...
Robop0pe 10 months ago
wet noodle. LOL
josephtenthousand 10 months ago
with subs: Messing up his s_t_d´s ^^
Stylesxxx 10 months ago
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I thought only P has deathball, but that helion, viking, thor, raven army just looks unbeatable....
weiliemwong 10 months ago
wtf?? i thought only P has deathball, but that terran thor helion viking deathball looks unbeatable.....
weiliemwong 10 months ago
DOUBLE ROBOW ALL ZE WAY!
fall0rn 10 months ago
14:45 immortalize loooool
theabyscalls 10 months ago
tyler just reacted wrong its not easy to just go mass thor helion as you guys would think.. Toss can crank out much more immortals than you can crank out thors had tyler just gone for a heavier immortal composition his timing attack would be much earlier than thorzain not allowing thorzain to have that critical amount of thors + when you lose your mech army you lose it... it takes forever to remake a mech army
kpatrolTK 10 months ago
@kpatrolTK
it might take forever to remake a mech army, but it also takes forever for a protoss army to destroy a mech army. Thors break forcefields rendering all the sentries useless, splash from the thors makes zealots worthless, vikings snipes collossi which is the heavy support for the gateway units, zealots and stalkers just melt against thors. Don't forgot, blue terran had +2 armor for mech meaning they can take quite alot of hits and i think i saw a few scvs in the back repairing
mudyao 10 months ago
@mudyao "splash damage from thors makes zealots useless"? someone is being a noob here...
szopad 10 months ago
@kpatrolTK
so that just makes the thors survive even longer. Mech is the strongest build terran can go right now, especially against protoss and to a lesser extent, against zerg
mudyao 10 months ago
Think ThorZain is the best Terran so far :D
MrSanayMoe 10 months ago
makes me want to play terran again. sounds so menacingly metallic and robotically chilled.
thorizzle117 10 months ago
I'm soo stealing this build from ThorZaIN. Gonna have to incorporate a few ghosts in there though, immortals will be tough to deal with when mass thors are in play. :o
redsoxfan591 10 months ago
ThorZain is such a good player! not only he has good reaction, timing, and control, his play is actually every interesting to watch!
4everweilun 10 months ago
Tyler looks like such a badass in his picture. "You may beat me, but i'll kill your whole family."
XXKyleorCarlXX 10 months ago
Scout mech, toss response: keep going anti low hp units build. Get raped, toss response nº2: try again with imortals ( that get hammered by thor helion ) that counter tank.
This game proves how weak toss players are, note to toss, next time you see that comp try to go for mass void and magic box a bit...
Nice to see a toss army getting pumbled for a change instead of the ridiculous A move toss wins it all
xloRelas 10 months ago
@xloRelas You're so dumb. Hellions are shit versus Immortals, Colossi actually beat Thors in mass because of the range and mobility of Colossi that doesn't allow all the Thors to attack while the Colossi can. Not many people (if any) know the proper unit composition to deal with late game mech. The proper response is to never let it kick in because once they reach critical mass, they do a ridiculous amount of damage. And Void Rays are useless when you have constant reactored Viking production.
Oreoclan 10 months ago
@Oreoclan One, you have it backwards. Thors > Colossi. Two, don't berate people when you're wrong.
CaptainHellblaze 10 months ago
@Oreoclan seems lik you MUSTknow it.............
fall0rn 10 months ago
Not often you such a good usage of strike cannons
lippi01 10 months ago
Where, there you go Terran players, this is what everyone has been saying for ages. Don't go bioball against Colossi.
PhlegmMaster 10 months ago
Hahahaha Tyler is a joke.
Ybrethar 10 months ago
7:06 raven blends in 0.o lol
moviemaster2010 10 months ago
Day9's wrong. Thor's don't 1-shot Observers.
sashascall 10 months ago
@sashascall I was thinking the same, but not 100%
If i remember right it takes 2.....
viper19861986 10 months ago
great play.. i wish terrans would play more mech or bio mech against protoss.. bioballs suck against protoss IMO...
midgetman433 10 months ago
Lol Terran are OP again?
It's just the metagame. However this game really shows those "toss imba late game" people that anyone can win with the right units.
Anyway, I would have throw down 2 stargates the instant I saw so many early thors. Looks like Tyler wasn't expected THORzain to go for pure mech.
2401060 10 months ago
Day9 president !
gorthorki 10 months ago
YouTube...why you are so broken...
An2quamaraN 10 months ago
i hate it that after this match everybody is claiming terran is overpowered and the game is broken !
thorzain simply played a great game and tyler didnt have an answer to it ..
i find sc2 these days as balanced as it can get.
michaa808 10 months ago
In the next intro ThorZain's portrait will have to be much bigger, he-he =)
Koshak87 10 months ago
facing to the 250 mm cannons neither immo nor collo is the solution for sure. charge zealot and blink stalker is the way to go to take over thor+helion. Just think abt how many collossi he made and what if those resources on zealots.
v2431 10 months ago
yea, toss is op. Immos hard counter to thors, yes protoss is imba. collossi are broken, yes.
DTProtoss 10 months ago
@DTProtoss idiot -_-
Immos are really hard counter to thors. But yes ofcourse protoss are supposed to win when the opponent has the perfect unit composition and hes going for some anti bio build without changing the build in any way after scouting the thors. But of course one build is supposed to counter everything, sure.
Jonereator2 10 months ago 5
@Jonereator2 Fun Fact 3-3 Thor beats 3-3 Immortal lol (not a 3-3-3 btw :P). I'll not call the immortal hard counter but just a counter (expecially due to the 250 mm cannon). I agree with you btw Tyler should've changed his build when he saw the thors. It's alla about unit composition. Mech can be viable in this match up.
KamuiRyu88 10 months ago
Ok youre right :P Immos are not THAT good but they are a bit cheaper so they are worth getting vs Thors, he went waaaaaay to heavy on the collosi. Collosus can be a pretty good counter vs the thors with some zealot support but the Thorzain just had to many + the helions roasted the zealots in a sec.
Jonereator2 10 months ago
@Jonereator2 Agreed on everything you said. I still think that Carriers are the way vs Mech but they are too expencive and all that vikings make them soo sad ='(
KamuiRyu88 10 months ago
@Jonereator2 immos arent a hard counter...in 1v1 i think actually the thor pulls ahead (or maybe other way around but very slightly). id say voids are better hard counter, thors aa is joke vs. armored.
ShasOJeffrey 10 months ago
That was sex!!
Madarabster 10 months ago
hahaha every time I see 250 mm cannons I cream my pants... wonder why they call this guy THORzain :P
aznmaven 10 months ago
I hate how the casters of the TSL3 pretend that this is live. I watched it when it was live on UStream and Thorzain needed to pause to change a hotkey, and Day9 was all like "WOAH THAT WAS THE FASTEST PAUSE I HAVE EVER SEEN." Then I believe at the end of the WhiteRa-MC series, Day9 also said that they were getting word from the Refs if WhiteRa dc'd or not. You can see by the end of each game that it says "Replay Complete." The games are awesome, the casting is great, it just bugs me a little.
iwirthless 10 months ago
wow nony is sucking so hard... he was ruling the beta but...now... he gets outplayed every single match.. i feel bad for the guy
but im starting to think that TL only brought him on for his impressive run thru the beta. i see no reason to have this guy sponsored right now.
MariosGuy 10 months ago
@MariosGuy Ahah, he's getting outplayed on the games you see, this guy is insane, shit happens, but dont worry he's one of the best protoss
Maho2109 10 months ago
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cangsworld 10 months ago
THOR.....zain!
MDCM 10 months ago
Maybe micro mass stalkers/immortals back and forward?
Truthtolder 10 months ago
How in hell are you suppose to counter Thors with strike cannons+ mass vikings?
Truthtolder 10 months ago
awesome intro
atrisX 10 months ago
Protoss op? ya right.
virgozero 10 months ago
day9 rulez!!!!!!!!!!!
m4gg3rs 10 months ago
"Congratulations! You've made it to level 10!"
"The final boss will be... LIQUID TYLER!!"
Pretty powerful intro for Tyler there. xD
RemySoujirou 10 months ago 30
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@RemySoujirou Should've been
"Congratulations! You've made it to level 10! The final boss will be... LIQUID TYLER!!"
Archaik85 10 months ago
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@RemySoujirou Should've been
"Congratulations! You've made it to level 10! The final boss will be... praeThorZaIN!!"
Archaik85 10 months ago
I'd still like to know if Canadians can enter?
TheScylent 10 months ago
Blink Stalker + Immortal + High Templar and a Sentry or two would've worked better for Tyler. Blink Stalkers + a few force fields to protect the HTs and Immortal Hardened Shields from the Hellions, feedback spam to negate the Strike Cannons from the Thors, Immortals as the main fighting unit vs. the Thors.
Taznak 10 months ago
@Taznak u do kno that the strike cannons aren't used with energy now right? it's on cooldown
ninjainvzn 10 months ago 16
@ninjainvzn YOU ARE WRONG! : O
Horegutten123123 9 months ago
@Horegutten123123 blizzard just gave the thors energy again in the recent 1.3.3 patch. they started out with energy in the beta, then the energy got taken away, now they have energy again
ninjainvzn 9 months ago
@ninjainvzn I thought they changed it back to energy?
TheEnictobi 9 months ago
@TheEnictobi yea. hence the now they have energy again
ninjainvzn 9 months ago
@Taznak are u retarded?
thor stomp forcefields and cannot be fedback.
virgozero 10 months ago 3
@Taznak Are you high?
LaNDoNx18 10 months ago
@Taznak lol u must b a bronze league player
MrFlyPro 10 months ago
@Taznak Thors haven't had energy since the Beta. And Hellions don't do bonus damage to Immortals.
sourrooster 10 months ago
@Taznak fail
thekazmir101 10 months ago
@Taznak i bet you also counter ghosts with archons to? :P
thekazmir101 10 months ago
want to know what's wrong? Tyler played way too passively, he played the same boring style as he showed on his stream, 1 gate, 1 robo, expo and 2 additional gates, and stuck there forever, making 3 units & 1 colosus at a time.
At 13-14 min into a game, a good protoss is supposed to have a gateway explosion (at least into 8-9 gates) before attack so that a shitload of unit can be warped in faster for reinforcement. Those 3 factories in the main was so easy to deal with blink harass early on.
bta1987 10 months ago
these games are so epic thorzain fighting!
L337Zealot 10 months ago
haha, mass collossus so op ! oh wait, no marines !
DziadekEdek 10 months ago
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thorzain suck a dick
eyeEX 10 months ago
lol Stun doesn't do any damage. It stuns. ))
Tyfyh 10 months ago
great series, great play by the swedish player, hope to see him more in the future.
Eliano55 10 months ago
I'm happy over the winner ^^;
OminouString 10 months ago
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lmao the overrated no results pussy tyler gets ass raped once again
RataFucker 10 months ago
@RataFucker umad
superthe1st 10 months ago
@superthe1st he mad
Eliano55 10 months ago
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@superthe1st no i'm happy as fuck this lame pussy got ass raped 3-0 aahahah. i think u mad lmao.
RataFucker 10 months ago
@RataFucker Umm, won TSL2 bruh, if that's not results enough for you then you are just mad.
Juli0o12 10 months ago
War3 pro player fighting :)
Critteri 10 months ago
NOOO tyler WHYYY
chuckanola55 10 months ago
no first for you
DragomirJtac 10 months ago