Teofilo Stevenson vs Tyrell Biggs USA vs Cuba 1984 (complet fight)

[TheTati1975]

Lo cierto es q el tipo pegaba...ahora el profesionalismo tiene su cosa y hay q darle peleas de preparacion antes de ponerlo con las estrellas del pro....hay q pulirlo pero de q pega,pega y duro..

[11missblonde]

I CAN TELL ALL YOU BLOKES ONE THING , IF STEVENSON SET FOOT IN THE RING WITH ALI , FRAZIER , FOREMAN AND NORTON ALL IN THEIR PRIME HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SLAPPED AROUND THE RING LIKE A RAG DOLL. MASSIVE JUMP GOING FROM AMATEUR TO PRO HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMP . A COUPLE OF HUGE CANNONS FROM FOREMAN WOULD HAVE SORTED HIM OUT GOOD AND PROPER, NO CHANCE FOLKS.

[mike62mcmanus]

Stevenson was already past his prime in this fight..Three gold medals..He had a lot to learn about pro. style is all...pro has some dirty customers...This boy could have made it..Period fools.

[rbrtdornel]

Quedará hasta siempre la duda si Stevenson se hubiera hecho profesional, ¿qué hubiera sucedido? Humildemente, yo me animo a decir (recuerden: ERA LA ÉPOCA DE ORO DE LOS HEAVYWEIGHT) que hubiera derrotado a boxeadores como Bonavena, Lyle (que falleció hace poco), Evangelista, Quarry... pero no creo que hubiera podido derrotar a Larry Holmes, a Norton, a Shavers y por supuesto, tampoco Ali. Era un genio igual

[ufufjdsjsjfh]

Ali said it himself that he has never seen so much punching power in someone

[Soulblackman]

@ufufjdsjsjfh You still have to connect.

[ufufjdsjsjfh]

@Soulblackman so i guess george foreman frazier patterson liston none of those guys connected? your making ali sound like he never got hit while he did have the one of the greatest footwork he could be hit i mean the guy didnt get parkinson's for no reason

[Soulblackman]

@ufufjdsjsjfh I'm saying that as powerful as Stevenson was, he did NOT have the skills to connect with PROS! He would NOT do to Ali, Foreman, Frazier, etc. at THAT point in his career, what he did in the Olympics. Besides, as long as he fought in the Olympics, he had a "pro" experience over all who he fought.

[ufufjdsjsjfh]

@Soulblackman lol if anything pro's are easier to connect with considering the fact that amateur is cored based on clean punches landed if thats what your saying

[Soulblackman]

@ufufjdsjsjfh No. They move better, and have the experience NOT to get caught by the SLOW punches of Stevenson. STUDY his style. Very slow and deliberate. Unless he did go into the pros to improve his skills, at that stage, he would get killed by fairly decent pros.

[ufufjdsjsjfh]

@Soulblackman man only ali moves better frazier was a plodder and so was foreman stevenson also had decent speed for a heavyweight the pros dont improve ur skills they just test your toughness

[MrThrillgil]

21 years punk dont know shit about nothing only what his pimp fidel tells him to say

[MrThrillgil]

cuban gov, has no shame man figting BOYS

[Janballincuban]

watch?v=nW7MkLz6vxs

Listen to foreman at the end.

And also, Stevenson imo would've beaten Ali and foreman. And would've killed tyson...

[andrewr62]

@Janballincuban Hard to say. Stevenson while the talented was in fact fighting amateurs, boys not yet near

their peak. Stevenson never faced a true top tier professional boxer. There have been many boxers who dominated the amateur ranks who just were not successful as professionals. To simply state he would destroy three of the greatest world champions of all times holds no merit. Better to say he had the potential to be a great professional boxer

[Soulblackman]

@andrewr62 Very true statement.

[muslimkickboxer]

молодец стивенсон ! ах какой был бокс техника !!!!!

[6400az]

Never seen Stevenson so out of shape and sluggish. In 84' he would have been 32 yrs of age. Does anyone know how much he weighed for this fight?

[Honigdrohne0221]

100 % agreed. Normally TS boxed in heavyweight division and he was slim. So it must be the superheavy division in this vid from 1984. In 1986 he won gold in the WC in super heavy.

[6400az]

@Honigdrohne0221

Yes, I think your right. I remember thinking ...the Superheavyweights ???

[akseli09]

2 years before this fight, the cuban broke to ribs to biggs

[supershadichedgehog]

Stevenson did lose twice to the russian Igor Vysotsky. First fight Stevenson lost by decision, second fight he was knocked out by the russian.

[supershadichedgehog]

Tyrell took it to him good. Stevenson greatest amateur yes. In other words, if this was baseball he'ld be the greatest minor leaguer ever. Can't give him any more props if he hasn't proven himself at the professional level. There were too many great heavywieghts at that time had he gone pro in the early 70's. Ali, Foreman, Frazer, Leon Spinks, Norton and Larry Holmes. He fought Biggs in 84, if he'ld stuck around til 87 Tyson would've slapped a dress on him.

[drepop803]

@supershadichedgehog ok let me drop some knowledge on you. cubans ARE NOT allowed to turn pro unless they escape cuba. something teo was not willing to do as he loved his cuba. and if you dont know you can only fight amatuer til you 34yrs old. teo would of been 36 in 87.

[smimot]

Biggs connected good at 1:42 and 2:10 in the 1st rd. and backed up the Cuban champ. Good round.

[Belburg]

@smimot HE did what Greg Page said he would've done to Stevenson, only Greg would've pulled it off.

[6400az]

@Belburg

No, don't think so. To beat the Cubans you had to brawl, like Spinks did . Page woud have tried t box, no way could he have escaped Stevensons long reach.

I remember, a much anticipated fight between Page and Stevenson, each time Page pulled out.

[Belburg]

@6400az At the time he turned pro, mid-1978, Greg had more than enough juice to deal with Teofilo.Remember, Tony Tubbs lasted a full three rounds with Teofilo barely landing on him, and Greg had a better chin and probably some better boxing skills than Tubbs.Stevenson would have given Greg some problems if he wasn't on his game, but Greg's fluidity and speed definitely would have given Teofilo something to think about also.

[Belburg]

@6400az At the time he turned pro, mid-1978, Greg had more than enough juice to deal with Teofilo.Remember, Tony Tubbs lasted a full three rounds with Teofilo barely landing on him, and Greg had a better chin and probably some better boxing skills than Tubbs.Stevenson would have given Greg some problems if he wasn't on his game, but Greg's fluidity and speed definitely would have given Teofilo something to think about also.I know that the second bout, Page had a legitamite reason to pull out.

[6400az]

@Belburg

Yes, Page was probably better than Tubbs. A win over Stevenson would have given him a real chutzpah

as he enterd the pro ranks.Instead he entered with the label of having ducked Stevenson.

I really think Stevenson could have taken him though. Unless the fight turns into a Leonard vs Hagler track meet. But Stevenson was pretty fast too. And with those long arms, he would'nt have needed to give chase. Like many fans, I was dissapointed the fight never took place.

[Belburg]

@6400az  Same here.Also would have like to seen Teofilo fight Marvis Frazier, and Mitch Green.

[renduke]

@6400az HE WOULD HAVE NO SHOT VS Ali, Foreman, Tyson and a few others

[6400az]

@renduke

No need for caps friend...never really said anything to the contrary. Although the puncher always has a shot.

[rasse1965]

Teófilo Stevenson Lawrence (Las Tunas, Cuba, 29 de marzo de 1952) boxeador cubano.Su padre era inmigrante corrijo mi error en el comentario anterior muchas gracias un gan atleta cubano.

[rasse1965]

No se piede negar que es señor Stevenson es fue un gran atleta nacido en Jamaica y gran representante del boxeo cubano. Al parecer es una persona sencilla y de gran prominencia en el mundo boxistico. Un buen ejemplo

[eagles139]

@rasse1965 si te coje fidel castro diciendo que el Teo es jamaquino te manda a fusilar jajajajajajaja

[rasse1965]

@eagles139

saludos Me parecio haberlo leido en otra fuente, luego en breves minutos lo rectifique y lo publique por respeto a nuestros hermanos de Cuba. Que Dios bendiga a toda la America y el caribe hispano. Y usted amigo @eagles139 reciba una gran bendicion.

[lee1990lee]

i think stevenson should of done some exhbitons against pros to show hes number 1 cause he was damn good

[Bhanche99]

Teofilo Stevenson is the greatest boxer of all times.

[fantorjhs]

Stevenson is the ALI in amateurs. But of course, they were in different worlds. Stevenson was great there, and NO ONE as Ali in the other world.

[Honigdrohne0221]

Though TS won this bout he seemed to be past his prime there.

[davetherave6724]

biggs looks like will smith doing a bad impression of ali .he did catch a good knockout against snipes and then a lstrong comeback against david bey but when it came to step up to the scratch down he went against the the real deal.larry holmes used to say stay off the coke kids it will ruin your life

[elmagomerlin03]

ese hombre no le ganaba a ali. ali es el segundo mejor boxeador de la historia, entonces stevenson es mejor que duran, amstrong o ali. que pasa coño.

[a2865]

In some ways the amateur ranks are harder than the pros because you can't get hand picked fights to build your record. That's why most great amateurs make pretty good pros if they don't spend it all in the ams. Stevenson would have been great because he had a pro style with a great jab and power punches. Oh by the way Holmes did stop Ali.

[huntingwolf20]

I still don't know how anyone knows Stevenson couldn't or could have been a champion as a professional. He was a great amateur, leave it at that I guess. He fought some younger guys, later in his career. But he was pretty damned dominant when he was a kid himself.

[perkinsvalentine]

Silly debate. Stevenson fought kids. That would have been comparable to sending prime Tyson or Foreman to the Olympics every four years to fight the world's youth. Too bad for Stevenson and the world of boxing that he wasn't developed into a professional. Stevenson certainly wouldn't been the best during that era of heavyweights - but he may have become an interesting contender.

[capablemachine]

@ezekielwahwah I thought it was Henry Tillman. 

[ezekielwahwah]

@capablemachine

oops

[31Obatala]

stevenson hubiera despingado a qualqiera de los anormales esos y sabes porque, porque es cubano . VIVA CUBA. y ustedes se dicen yamar cubanos ustedes no son nada.

[manny667]

@31Obatala Y visosky;un blanquito chiquito que lo maduro siempre?.Deja el fanatismo k esta la gano porque el americano se pajeo al final y se cayo en la esquina neutral.

[valery767]

well to be honest( I am cuban 100%) not only ali,because ali was the best of all heavywights but 3 or 4 more boxers from the same time ,would beat stevenson up so hard I am sure his carreer would be shoter..for sure

[ihamoitc2005]

Stevenson not at his best. Looks rather lead footed here.  Looks like Ali's cousin but very different fighting style.

[miguelitoelhuevon]

propaganda comunista , en realidad ali era mejor ampliamente y de eso no tienen duda los que saben , los pobres cubanos solo sabian lo que decia el cagandante en jefe .

[combatesdeboxeo]

@miguelitoelhuevon totalmente de acuerdo, hay montones de buenos amateurs que después no fueron gran cosa como profesionales, stevenson fue muy bueno, pero ali,frazier,foreman .. estan en otra liga

[pianist231]

great fight.

[MekongMambo]

Biggs looked like he was intimidated, but he didn't fight a bad fight.

[madmax8903]

Stevenson couldn't attempt a fourth gold that year of course because of the Soviet bloc veto of Los Angeles as retaliation for the American refusal to take part 4 years earlier. Therefore this USA-Cuba match had even more bite than usual, especially as Biggs took the gold he would have been going for. I'm surprised to see Manny Seward working the corner of an amateur competition. Oh well, you gotta start somewhere.LOL. It must have been later, because I remember Biggs getting KOd by Stevenson.

[Christian13131]

this fighters great, his right hand reminds me of joe louis, hard punchers

[305xavier]

cubans do not need to imitate anyones style ;) cubans are the best in boxing, what happens is that very few have reached profecional. but look now to all cubans who have come to the professionalism,all undefeated.

[allout1034]

@305xavier ..bullshit!...go back to the 76 olymics!.....guess you cubans forgot about all that..didnt you...aldama...lol..lost...sor­ia....lost......duvengel....lo­st.....you're lucky cause it couldve been worse....had your partners (mostly soviet union referee) trying to help you out but it didnt work out that way...so shut the fuck up and quit claiming "cuban invincibility" cause that MYTH was SHATTERED!

[nick1729]

Great fighter. But he has never revenged two loses against Igor Vysotsky who one time took Teofilo out right in Cuba. If he had the guts to turn pro he should have done it. Many think he would have beaten anybody, posibly he could, but don't forget pro is much different than amateur.

[gusto1978]

@nick1729 stevenson didnt turn Proffesional simply because proffesional boxing is just a bussiness it isnt really a sport but than again u may have to be cuban to be able to see this point since americans are blind to this.

[allout1034]

@gusto1978 ..stevenson was scared to turn pro for 2 reasons: number1, he knew if he faced American pros, he'd lose.( Frazier, Foreman, Ali....etc) number 2: he knew if he had left Cuba, Castro would have executed his whole family cause Castro didnt want to be embarrassed before the whole world!..Stevenson was in a no win situation and you cant blame him for that!..

[gusto1978]

@allout1034 u clearly misunderstand buddy u should keep ur stupid little thoughts to ur self.... there is a reason why at that time Cuba didnt want their fighters going pro because of politics against USA ofcourse... not because ali for frazier but because of a whole different political matter! the US government had plenty to do with it... in the meantime shut ur mouth another stupid Yank talking shit again.

[allout1034]

@gusto1978 ...apparently you dont have any knowdledge of cuba or its politics...and if you ARE cuban, then you must be retarded because EVERYONE knows what cuba is all about.....so YOU shut the fuck up, hillbilly...

[gusto1978]

@allout1034 this was said by a fucking YANK . buddy u dont know shit.. u should grab a book and study u retarded fuck! u are a yank and by law u are the dumbest breed in the world so dont try to be smart u are just a yank dumb ass.

[allout1034]

@gusto1978 .....retarded???lol...stupid fuck!...you cant even speak spanish, let alone english....I will not argue with the mentally handicapped...that would be morally wrong and inappropiate of me. but please, at least learn something about cuba even if you cant speak the language....look at some pictures or something, because you're really naive or totally dumb in your conversations..

[allout1034]

@gusto1978 ...lol...pendejo.....i am part latino....and what is a fuck like you doing in australia pretending to be hispanic??,,you are pathetic, vato...lol

[gusto1978]

@allout1034 OMG t no eres latino chico tu eres un maricon que es differente. see faggot i dont pretend to be latin I is!! vato hahahahaha pathetic word just say mate instead

[johnosandra]

@nick1729 your an idiot he never lost and cuba didnt go to the 84 olympics this vid isnt possible

[truthhitmanisback]

Muhammad Ali said he would fight Stevenson in a professional bout but amature Stevenson wanted to only go three. One you turn pro you NEVER go back to being amature. Coward Stevenson should of stepped up to the plate but he was scared making excuses like a Pacman against Pretty boy- rich 4life-Mayweather. lol... Ali woulda whupped him because Ali is the greatest, not Stevenson.

[Dannylbf42]

@truthhitmanisback in order to fight pro Stevenson would have to had leave hid home country and he would never be aloud back he didnt want to leave for 1 fight

[dcasey77]

@Dannylbf42 If Stevenson had turned professional and become World Heavyweight Champion beating the best AMERICA had to offer, I'm sure he would have become an even bigger hero in Cuba.

He may have missed his chance with Ali in serious decline but I think he would have been found out against Larry Holmes.

Ali in his prime would have slaughtered him.

[Gyro911]

@Dannylbf42 Its all hypocrisy. A great athlete in cuba gets showered with special previledges from teh gov't which defeats the purpose of everyone being economically equal in cuba

[Dannylbf42]

@Gyro911 thats not true they treat every1 like shit my uncle played for the baseball team and they get the medals and shove it in a box and whipe their ass with everything uve earned

[puertorricane]

@truthhitmanisback you really are a dumb mofo.. just shut up and stop making yourself look stupid

[truthhitmanisback]

@puertorricane You need to stop sucking your mums smelly stinking cunt ! lol... You even dare dissrespect me when I am only giving an opinion ,which everyone is entitled to, and I will diss you back even worse than I just did. You stupid punk ! Do you want some more ?

[puertorricane]

@truthhitmanisback lol  how do i dare disrespect you im so sorry please dont punk me again have mercy on me you're so mean.. lol look stupid you didnt just give an opinion you made shit up saying stevenson was scared and didnt want to fight.. you just a typical floyd mayweather fan a nuthugger there's a difference between an opinion and just talking shit.. and you aint punking nobody biatch

[allout1034]

@truthhitmanisback ...and YOU are so right!...them cubans will always be in that amatuer status UNLESS they leave that impoverished little island and step up in the REAL world....but only a few are brave enough leave....

[gusto1978]

@allout1034 mate i have been to cuba and also america and i tell u what. No america should say that Cuba is POOR... seriously i've seen much more poverty in the US than in the whole island.. but i guess u are gonna say im wrong cause u have never been there and u still think that USA is on top of the world which seriously makes me fucking LAUGH!

[meynard1]

@truthhitmanisback He wasn´t scaryed he turned down a 2 million contract cause he didn´t throw away his country and his goverment to turn pro ¨cause when you turn pro your representing your self not cuba since your making your own money. So your ignorant for stating that Stevenson was scaryed i believe that he would have taken ali to school he has more bout then ali and more skill rather then mouth like ali.

[truthhitmanisback]

@meynard1 Who offered him 2 million ? He wasnt the first. Wilt Chamberland who was much taller backed out as well. Excuses ! Muhammad Ali could adapt to any style.

[meynard1]

@truthhitmanisback Sure you stick to that he had ¨excuses¨ thing all im saying that ali was no good seeing as there was better fighter´s out there he´s a 70s mayweather jr.

[truthhitmanisback]

@meynard1 Nobody said Muhammad Ali was a 70s Mayweather when he KOd George Foreman who Steveson never dared to call out when George KOd Joe Frazier in 2 rounds. Stevenson couldnt beat the greatest. Ali was scared of nobody thats why he was Olympic champion in 1960. World Champ in 1964 - 1974 - 1978. And he probably called Ali out when Ali was near the end of his career. Stevenson, whos sideburns look like mobile phones, should have called out Larry Holmes who would have beaten him also.

[meynard1]

@truthhitmanisback What does his side burns have to do with this? and all im saying is that sli was a bum in my opion thats what i think that steveson would have taken him to school.

[truthhitmanisback]

@meynard1 Ali proved he was the greatest so he can't be a bum. No matter who's opinion , anyone who says Ali was a bum is a hater. Bums don't win Olympic Gold Medals then professional championships. Bums don't take a stand against White Supremacy, and rampant blatant racism like in the 1960s. Bums don't do that but Heroes and Legends do.

[meynard1]

@truthhitmanisback Same can be said for Jack Johnson.

[schusterlehrling]

@truthhitmanisback

but he lost to some feeble boxerr that Teofilo beat with ease.

So need to say much more.

[truthhitmanisback]

@schusterlehrling Who did Ali lose to that Teofilo beat with ease ???

Mind you did George Foreman beat Ken Norton with ease ? What about Joe Frazier ? Question.

[schusterlehrling]

@truthhitmanisback

Norton, Berbick, Holmes, also Foreman when he was a junior.

Also Spinks and a few of less calibre.

Did you ever wonder why there r no professional tournaments?

Ony matches.

The reason: their training is reduced and their fitness is, let me say, mediocre.

Most Professionals would not stand the strain of a tournament.

Ali once did, when he was young.

Stevenson even did it in his old days and won and won and won.

Nothing more to say.

[truthhitmanisback]

@schusterlehrling You're nothing but a liar. Foreman won the gold medal in 1968 to become Olympic heavyweight champion So he couldn't have lost to Stevenson. Nor could Ken Norton because Norton started his boxing in the Army Marines and was never inthe olympics. Berbick and Holmes were sparring partners who couldnt knock Ali out when he was sick with parkinsons. This is one boxing fan you can't trick. The whole world has seen Stevenson and STILL call Muhammad Ali the GREATEST !

[combatesdeboxeo]

@truthhitmanisback i agree absolutely, this guy is a liar.

even roberto duran said " ALI WOULD KILL HIM". TEOFILO WAS 10 YEARS YOUNGER THAN ALI. WITH AMATEUR RULES STEVENSON WOULD BE COMPETENT, BUT ALI WAS A PROFESSIONAL, TEOFILO WOULD BE TIRED AFTER OF 4 ROUNDS. FOREMAN WOULD DESTROY TEOFILO AND PRIME VS PRIME ALI WOULD PLAY WITH HIM.

FRAZIER WANTED FIGHT AGAINST TEOFILO WHEN JOE DID BEAT ALI IN 1971.

[capablemachine]

@schusterlehrling Uh what? Are you saying professionals have less fitness that amatuers?

[combatesdeboxeo]

@schusterlehrling you are the biggest liar ever

[meynard1]

@truthhitmanisback Teofilo Stevenson 302 wins 22 defeats 324 fights 20 years of boxing.

Muhammad Ali 65 wins with 4 defeats 60 fights 21 years of boxing.

[truthhitmanisback]

@meynard1 Yeah... all amature fights, none of em were on a professional level, and none of his opponents were a George Foreman, Frazier, Ernie Terrell, or a young Cassius Clay. Muhammad Ali's 65 fights were professional. Teofilo had a CHOICE and he chose to be an amature. Muhammad Ali already won gold and didn't need to win it 8 times more lol what for ? To prove how great an amature is was ?  loool No Muhammad Ali is the greatest !

[meynard1]

@truthhitmanisback So why was ali scaryed to fight 4 rounds? with Steveson Ali backed out bro Steveson said he would fight 4 rounds with him but Ali back out.

[truthhitmanisback]

@meynard1 Because four rounds is for the amatures, or novices. 10 or 15 rounds is for professional men. If Muhammad Ali was an amautre then he would have fought anyone in his weight class like he did when he Won the gold Meddal. Even Wilt Chamberland was gonna fight Ali in a 10 to 15 round fight and he wasn't even a boxer. Muhammad Ali was the man BEFORE Steveson came on the scene. Ali is still the man up until this day so why would he go by the ground rules laid down by an amature ?

[wfarnaby]

Another in the neverending series of scandalous Olympic Boxing decisions...

[oleg1234]

Biggs only could imitate Ali's style!

[adrian8188]

Stevenson fue mejor que Ali, tenia mejor pegada y tenia la misma velocidad de brazos y piernasque Muhamed Ali

[beargrizly67]

Con todo respeto para Stevenson... pero no estoy de acuerdo con usted. Pues Ali tenia mas experiencia. Ali a peleado contra mas boxeadores de nivel muy alto que Stevenson. Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Patterson, Liston por ejemplo.

[Peterh588]

We'll never know how good he was. As an amateur heavyweight the only fighters that compare would be Foreman and Tyson, maybe Lennox Lewis. (Ali and maybe Frazier fought as light heavyweights in the Olympics.) Given a professional manager and trainer he would have been right up there, much as I hate to admit it. Sure had a great physique - big and powerful but lithe. I suspect he might have had a bit more power than Ali but it's hard to judge because Ali threw combinations more than haymakers.

[elyedai]

a lot of negative comments here..I think that people here should have a little more respect for this boxer if you never got to know him and you don't know shit about cuban boxing then you better shut up..Stevenson was the best!!! ARRIBA CUBA!

[allout1034]

Castro knew that Stevenson could not beat any American REAL heavyweight and thats why Stevenson refuse to leave Cuba to turn pro. Had he stepped outside of Cuba, it would have shattered that theory of "Cuban invincibility", and Castro knew that. If Castro was dead, or not in power, Stevenson would have swam the ocean just to get here and make millions....Then again, he most likely would have gotten embarrassed steppin up to a real American heavyweight!

[elyedai]

what are you talking about???

Stevenson is the best amateur boxer of all time he is a legend he could beat anyone as a pro just that he was not smart enough he thought communism was best..thats what he thought and you have to respect his ideas.

[Belburg]

He couldn't even beat Igor Vysotsky in two tries.His underling Angel Milian did that, even Greg Page.Page would've beaten Stevenson had they fought.Maybe even Mitch Green.

[allout1034]

@Belburg ...lol...mitch green...lol...but you just might be right about that....

[Billabong0110]

Yeh, yeh, just like what the Russians did to AMerica boxers, that killed Boxing in general. So where are the black amerian heavyweights nowadays.

[puertorricane]

so you're saying that biggs wasnt a real heavyweight.. stevenson couldve beaten any heavyweight in that era, foreman, ali, frazier, norton.. he was that good and bigger than all of them

[beargrizly67]

Could have does not count.

[puertorricane]

everybody knows he was the best amateru boxer of all time deal with it

[beargrizly67]

Yes, I would agree with that, even overlooking Lazslo Papp, another 3 times Gold medalist. But Stevenson did not beat Foreman, Ali, Frazier, Norton... Could he? Who knows?

[puertorricane]

nobody will ever know but it wouldve be nice to find out and there's no denying that he had a lot of talent and to say that he just beat up on kids is wrong he won his first gold medal at age 20 and continue his dominace throughout his career.. his boxing ability, size and power wouldve given him a chance to do good in the pros but we'll never know

[allout1034]

@Puertorricane......you said it right man..He WAS the best "amateur" boxer of all time...in his era maybe, but not the best of ALL time.....

[puertorricane]

so tell me who was better than him

[hurreeup]

I was just a kid when I saw Teofilo Stevenson. He was "the man" back in his day. If my memory serves me right, I think Castro would not let Stevenson leave Cuba to fight professionally. If that is the case, it is sad because it would have been great to see him fight all of the other heavyweights in the U.S.A. He could have beat any of them on a good day. I am not saying I think he was the best, but he could have beat any of the heavyweights in the U.S.A. We will never know.

[arkansoul]

Teofilo Stevenson wasn't shit! If he was a real man he would moved up and challenged professional fighters. That would have been the utmost respect; to win a heavyweight belt for his country. Because he didn't do that, he wasn't shit in my book...

[biglittlejujitsuman]

@arkansoul he challenged ali but ali said no

[arkansoul]

When offered 5 mil to fight Ali,he refused saying "What is one million dollars compared to the love of eight million Cubans?" Ali fought Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Shavers, Lyle, Bonavena, Quarry, etc. Why would he not fight Stevenson?

[biglittlejujitsuman]

he refused to take five million for a fifteen round fight because he is a communist and he didnt want to defect. but ali refused to fight him in cuba under his conditions. he cared about his people more then money which i have to admire. but ali probably would have whupped him

[arkansoul]

Ali wanted to destroy him, but I guess not enough to fight him in Cuba. Maybe I didn't have all my facts straight, but I never respected Stevenson and never saw things from his perspective. My bad...

[MrErcumbaldo]

He was not able to talk for himself even when he doesn't know how to talk , he is almost a moron.

[leynerdp23]

@MrErcumbaldo you dont even know shit mother fucker your confusing Teofilo Stevenson and Felix Savon so Mariconson(gey) Teofilo was a very wise an well spoken person. If you fucking know spanish like I do, look up his google him and there are some interviews and a short video of him and his lifestyle Mooorrrooonnn.

[MrErcumbaldo]

Comemierda , yo soy cubanoStevenson no sabe hablar, parece que ladra

[MrErcumbaldo]

Stevenson just said what he was ordered to say ,hewas a good" amateur" which lost to the ones that were not afraid and get inside of him.He was a bad paid professional as all cuban boxers are ,they box just for misery salay , they don't work ,that'st it

[666waterwolf]

Teofil Stevenson, the best boxer of all time, he would not be tempted by money, because it is one of the largest PATRIOT Cuba Respect .. .. personally I had the opportunity to see him, and his own photo with a handwritten signature ... I was honored

[MrErcumbaldo]

Amateur be careful ,and let me tell you that he was defeatewd more than one time in Cuba,before loosin his title .He was protected by referees

[allout1034]

u guys must be cuban or nuts!..maybe your champion should quit hittin people in the balls and fight like a REAL amateur....Biggs landed the better shots and combinations...TS won ball shots and reputation!

[flyinghotwing]

i just watched this and only saw two rounds, did they not show the first? anyway first minute 1/2 of first was boring but stevenson went forward, tyrell landed 3-4 big shots but never changed the momentum, in the second and last round here stevenson went forward and threw many more blows to biggs, who looked weak as fuck at the end supposedly going down to the balls then getting up and getting swatted like pineapples in a pillowcases at his big head....dont see where the controversy comes from?

[ezekielwahwah]

Look how Biggs was exhausted and he faked nonchalance after the fight. But you can see he's a little too much dazed :-) and also, notice how Stevenson gave Biggs the illusion of being dominant in the first round. Biggs went down once and he struggled not to show his poor balance and confusion. Stevenson just played along without brawling, and won this fight easily to the points. :-)

[dadaphony]

You niggas don't know the difference between biggs whoopin stevenson (fiction) and stevenson winning a tough bout (FACT).

[scatman44]

You know, I always thought that right upper cut was a phantom punch Biggs never saw. But now looking at this again, Stevenson hit him low. Taking that low blow out, I still think Stevenson won the fight, although Biggs was THE most agressive opponent Stevenson ever faced!

[scatman44]

Oops! Forgot Damiani whipped Stevo's ass!

[ezekielwahwah]

No he was not. Damiani has been the toughest fighter for Stevenson.

Here it was Stevenson who was older, more patient and less poweful than in his prime. Stevenson played along with Biggs for the entire match :-) and Biggs was prettty stunned at the end altho he tried to act casual, eheheh. Stevenson actually won this fight pretty easily.

[cieszyniok11]

Stevenson beetwen 19 and 30old did'nt lost fight. He won by KO usualy and he dont have reasons for training, specjal that Cuba bojkot olimpiada 1984r

[FaraonCuba]

No jodan, teofillo tenia una pegada fulminate, in 1982 he broke Biggs ribs, pasa que ya estaba a punto pa retirarse

[MrErcumbaldo]

Stevenso pegaba muy fuerte , pero sabes que era [pendejo,Milian lo tuvo al borde del Ko pero los arbitros le salvaron

aun recuerdo su cara de asombro o apendejamiento sentado en las sogas

[gbrown4x4]

WOW...I remember watching this fight back then. I was thinking there was finally someone that would kick Stevenson's aZZ but i think Biggs won it. Oh well

[netmio]

would've? it ain't fantasy boxing. stevenson knocked him down and kicked his arse. tyson wasn't even born.

[ccjames69]

Tyson wasnt born?

[BringerOfTheTruth]

This should indicate what Tyson wouldve done to Stevenson

[dynamite927]

Stevenson May Have Been Past It Here. I Could Be Wrong But I believe Stevenson Was 14 Years older Than Tyson. Stevenson Vs Tyson In The Amatuers Would've Been An Easy Win For StevenSon. an Easy Win.

[BringerOfTheTruth]

Not easy if at all..but im talking about pro.. I think Tyson would win there.

[kcatleticos]

good point ..Stevenson was way past his prime he fought in the 72 OLP. and won a gold medal. i think he would have been champ in USa, beating the likes of Spinks and a young Holmes...

[OS993]

Biggs was a fantastic amateur fighter

[MustafaHamsho]

Biggs wobbled him a couple of times

[allout1034]

wow!!..Biggs won that fight!!!!..that decision was bull garbage...

[razzz42]

You can see why the Cuban never turned pro. He'd get his ass kicked.

Pretending to be an amateur when he was just a third rate professional. At least Biggs went on to be competitive in the professional ranks.

[upthera5]

pretending to be an amateur...you can't pretend to be an amateur when you are fighting as an amateur with no pro experience. You're a bit stupid aren't you...And "a third rate rate professional" how many third rate professionals win 3 olympic golds and dominate the way stevenson did? And you're trying to rate stevenson based on footage of him out of prime. He boxed in the olympics from 72...this is 84. You either know nothing about boxing or are just a patriotic american taking biggs' side.

[razzz42]

By not moving up in rank you can stay an amateur forever. The only thing Biggs is afraid of here is Stevenson's low blows. At age 32 Ali was busy beating the snot out of Foreman's 24 year old face, not fighting a 3 rounder. Patriotic?...Speak for yourself.

[upthera5]

foreman was just a big hitter with bad stamina. He was a really sloppy boxer. Stevenson would have beat him easy. Besides, Ali was actually quite lucky. Foreman missed out on weeks of training cause of his injury which contributed to his lack of stamina in the fight. The rope a dope may not have worked so well otherwise. And Ali was nothing like he was in the 60s at 32. Watch a 1970s stevenson then compare him to 84. And I'm not patriotically biased to stevenson since I'm not cuban so there