REAL aviation enthusiasts see planes as planes. At least I do. I've been in love with planes ever since I can remember in my 19 years of life. My favorite planes are based on design and not the manufacturer, that's just irrelevant labeling.
They don't look similar at all. Especially when you consider that the basic airplane is a tube with wings. How different can they get? What do you want to see from Airbus? A square? A tube with wings and under-wing mounted engines is currently the most efficient "style." To all you nutters who say Airbus copied Boeing, or vice versa, why don't you come up with an airplane that looks completely different from anything flying today... and has the same, or better, operating economics.
If the A350 did "copy" the 787, what sense would that be? Airbus and Boeing have completely different ideologies.. does anybody hear honestly think that Airbus would throw away all it's work since it's inception just to gain the upper hand? In that case, there would be no A380, A330, or A320 (all of which are in their own niches--separate from Boeing). They do things differently to make more money.
dude seriosly airbus is way better their has been like 10 747 crashes okand alot of 737 crashs and a 767 crash 2 months afte it was bought and the comftorability has nothing to do with it that isthe airlines choice and a350 is 5 inches wider then 787
@mattndspike i agree,least787 flying now, may have took boeing a extra 2 year than anticipated but lok at the stunning 787 dreamliner what now flying, thats what boeing has always been well know for quality, reliability, safety and innovation. airbs can't get an aircraft the whats nearly the same as 787 flying, and they had to redesign the A350 airlines hated original design! airbus need to work with boeing. it'd be better if they did planes together and it'd stop all this arguing who's best!
i said the b787 is using the same design raked wingtips thats what its called but the 787 wings bend more i think its like 35 degrees more flex im not sure
but i said that the a350 to me is still using a winglet design but i have to see the plane itself
@bigkevinpetrona oh right sorry, i must had misread it, yeah the wing-flex is brill, and i think the Boeing 787 dreamliner will out do the a350 by far, cos notice recently a hell of a lot of Airbus's have crashed! not that Airbus's tech's bad but to have a fair few Airbus planes crashing aint good on Airbus, people may cancel A380 with all these Airbus crashes recently cause of the Airbus on-board systems causing the airplane to crash, maybe its a major flaw in all airbus design's. 787 will win!
but im a little worried about the carbon fiber body of the b787 but then again they know best right but i still like the b787 more than the a350 and it will never repalce the b777 to me the b777,b747 and b787 is in a class of there own
@UKsniper4 "If it ain't Boeing it ain't going" isn't even a popular phrase.. it's "I ain't going." Nice credibility on your part. And on that phrase, you're really going to state how well something will sell based off of something that Boeing "nationals" started saying? Really? How about some legitimate quotes. Dumbass. You make Boeing fans look stupid.
@UKsniper4 And anyways, it doesn't matter what YOU think. You know why? Because Boeing spent years and millions of dollars researching into what plane they should build and how they should go about doing it. If you think that you, with keyboard and quote of boundless wisdom, have more know-how than those geniuses, you need help. Serious help. Same goes for the A350/A380 haters.
Personally I think the whole Boeing vs Airbus battle is stupid. I respect Boeing for its designs such as the 747 and 787. While at the same time I respect Airbus for challenging the juggernaut with the 380 and 350. Both aircraft are beautiful, both aircraft have to meet the same standards. Its pointless to bicker which one is better.
The only reason this rivalry exists is because of dip stick nationalists. This world would be so much better without them.
I' m glad there's the debate over which is better. That means each company will continue to try and produce better and better aircraft. All the better for the passengers and airlines!
Finally someone with some god damn common sense on here.
I would tolerate these discussions if they were based on knowledge and facts. They are however ridden with misconceptions, unsubstantiated ideas and rumours and downright lies - especially towards A.
These days A and B are splitting the market 50:50 and that's for a simple reason: they both make equally advanced, equally safe and equally economical planes.
@mobius5759 GE said no to A350 cuz Boeing isCo-Partner with General Electric fuel efficient engines. Airbus really dug a grave for itself in the manner it conducts business + only 1 engine supplier is poor planning. Plus riding rough-shrod + threatning to put Boeing out business. As I said B4 USA is not am employment agency for Airfags. The new Boeing Tanker with new wing + GE Series of fuel efficient engine with less carbon emission is Boeings calling card + there R + 1000 order for B787'S!
@mobius5759 Rivalry needs to exist. Otherwise, we'd have pretty boring airplanes. IMO, that's why we have anti-monopoly laws. Imagine the U.S. with one commercial airline. One car-manufacturer. The same drawbacks would be present if there was one global producer of air-frames. No innovation.
That's why their planes keep on crashing! Boeing will be dominating as soon as the 787 comes out. Meanwhile, the A380 is doing as poorly as planned. Way to go Airbus!
Crashing..oh my god and a boeing has never crashed is it?? its only ye americans who think boeing is better no other person outside yer little world likes them or would fly them
You don't pay attention to news do you? Airbus aircraft have crashed four times in the past 2 months. I didn't say that Boeing's haven't crashed before, but that Airbus seems to have the same design flaws with each crash, ex: The Composite Vertical Stabilizer Bolts. Also, that's why %70 of the world uses Boeings.
i do actually..Ya alot of planes do crash and most aren't the manufactures falt im not sayin they are not at all responsapile fpr a cras but alot of the time it is poor handeling that causes a problem..how can fly by wire be a bad thing most plane crashes ane due to human error..
I agree. But, in Airbus' case, manufacturer errors occur more frequently. Also regarding Fly By Wire, Airbus has practically taken the pilot out of the aircraft. If you've ever flown one before, you'd know. With Boeing, the PIC has more control of what he wants the Aircraft to do.
@Mav1843 thats what i'm unsure about in airbus's, in an emergency, god forbid, the pilot can't take full control in a airbus were he can in a boeing but it's weird cos both airbus and boeing are using fly by wire now, boeing in the 777 and 787 and 747-8I but why does a pilot have more control over a boeing when airbus and boeing both use fly by wire?
@eamoman651 because the variation of fly by wire in any airbus airplane won't let a pilot take over once in flight so if there's an emergency were a pilot needs to fly manually he can't, so ur ****** well n truly. but boeing's u can cos they use a different type of fly by wire! but airbus's fly by wire has caused a lot of their airplanes to crash!
@eamoman651 i would and i'm a brit, boeing's are well better than airbus's always have been and always will be, i love beoing's better than airbus's, i mean who needs the a380 when u have a b747 what's perfectly fine. and airbus never designed the a380! take a look at this and then tell me who's idea and design it was. GO TO GOOGLE AND TYPE IN MD-12 AND THEN TYPE BOEING NLA. THEN TELL ME WHO REALLY DESIGNED THE A380!
@guitarplayerforu ya ok so y didnt boeing put it into production..who did airbus..ahh correct me if im wrong but its bigger better more efficiant and luxurious
@eamoman651 but originally boeing and airbus come up with the design as you saw on google boeing NLA, but boeing and airbus didn't agree to it in the end and both companies went their own seperate ways and airbus thought they'd continue that design that boeing and themselves had come up with and thats what's now become the A380, was originally call Boeing NLA! i think boeing will do the same as airbus eventually and make the boeing NLA later rather than soonr. insted boeing have made 787 & 748
@guitarplayerforu tell me so y didnt boeing make it instead of the 747..its cockpit is 2 far off the groung compared with the airbus and this makes it nicer to fly
@eamoman651 they said originally it'd wouldn't work, no airport would be able to accommodate such a monster aircraft and it was airbus and boeing who joined hand to make the Boeing NLA. the 747 is far better than the a380, it banks quicker for a start and its the safest aircraft flying and has been for 47 yearsand will continue sto stay safest aircraft flying with the 747-8I coming in 2012
@guitarplayerforu ya but they went and made the 747 less fuel effeciant andtakes more room to take off..it took airports years to recieve them cause the couldnt accomadate it ya but you cannot say that the a 380 isnt safe can you?
@eamoman651 of course a A380 is safe, the 747 remains the safest plane flying tho. but yeah certainly the a380's safe or the FAA wouldn't of certified it for flight! most pilots i speak to say they prefer to fly the 747 cos it banks quicker and is slightly more responsive.
@guitarplayerforu I do agree that the 747 is hands down one of the safest aircraft in the sky, but even though the FAA slaps an Airworthiness Sticker on the side of the plane like the A380 doesn't make it safe.
@Mav1843 i know, they say that airbus's fly by wire has made some of their airplanes crash, that's the real danger of fly by wire, once in flight with any airbus the computer won't let a pilot do dangerous things but in some cases like an emergency when u need to lose altitude fast it won't let the pilot take over and do a very steep decent almost like a nose dive.
@Guitargod4ever45 Similar exteriors? Similar doesn't cut it with this kind of stuff.. one small difference and everything can be different. Regardless, the A350 looks nothing like the 787. That's like saying the A350 looks like the 767. We'll see similarities where we want to see them.
@jjtc100 exactly! and airbus fanactics don't like the fact cos it's the 787 with airbus's name, wider body and wider windows, but use xwb engine's. instead of trent 1000's what is the best engine out there and most efficient.
@TomaszB007 yeah i'm a boeing fanatic and i think it is a bit too harsh on airbus cos they are good planes. personally i don't know why airbus and boeing don't give up and make one big company and build great plane's together!
ya whats wrong with watching a damn video, im a boeing fan but airbus has planes that I like, A300, A340, A318. What i think is that the fight against the 787 and the A350 is going to be a good one. One more thing Mw, FUCK U
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Way to try to copy boeing again fucking Airbus. Long live the 787!!!!, and 747, and 757, and 767, and 777, and pretty much all the boeing planes execpt for the retired ones.
M8 why are you even watching this if you're such a boeing fanboy. And seriously whats up with boeing and that tanker contract. They're being really sore LOSERS.
@mwesch6 airbus are just crafty and their very similar to boeing anyway just like the a350 XWB is a 787 with a wider body, XWB engines and the airbus name on it. in my opinion both company should merge and make planes together more innovation their if they did that and it'd stop all this arguing about who best.
Excuse me, the A350 is built on the A380 experience...in short the A350's cabin is like the A380's cabin without the second deck..thats why the A350 is 5 inches wider than the 787 and the walls go pretty much straighter the same as the A380's main deck...the A350 has panoramic windows..super cooler than the 787's 19" tall windows looks like it will add stress on the aircraft's fuselage..and also A350 vs. B767 B777 & B787 woo! 1 against 3? thats on brave Airbus!
@jewelshare airbus will lose and i know they will do just like they have will the a380 as opposed to the 787, 787 biggest seller hehe airbus lost. the a380 failed its environmentally friendly tests too and thats fact.
the A350 will replace the A330^_^ and yes the A350 is a bit smaller than the 777 and a bit bigger than the A330, with the Rolls Royce Trent XWB and the cabin designed by the BMW, the A350 is built by the A380 experience, the A350 is to compete with the 777 and the 787 after they outwit the A330 and the A340, weee! future planes! so cool!
@jewelshare not being awful to airbus but the A350 looks like a exact copy of the 787 and the interior looks very similar but i hat those panoramic windows, not as innovvative as the electric windows on the 787. but airbus are good, but boeing's are better in my eye's. but can't wait to go one the 787 and a380.
and 747 is the safest.airbus sucks.y do u think boeing make 90% of the worlds aircraft.Fuck all of u who like air bus and fuck airbus and fuck the people who dont like 747
Dude, take a chill pill, Airbus is a good company, but I really like Boeing alot better, because they been around much longer than airbus has, so don't just say F you to people just because they like airbus better.
Why do Boeing fans like you rotondi123 discriminate Airbus fans? All of these fights started when the A380 got launched, ah! I know you are just scared that Airbus is going to outwit Boeing or something? Or maybe you're just jealous because Airbus has a complete double deck arrangement? and you have no rights to say Fs on me "I am what I am" and you cannot change me for what I am because you are just a human like me
I agree, both Airbus and Boeing facing same problem but Boeing facing more larger problem now. In fact, they paying $145 billions just for compensation. Boeing also worry major carrier starts to shrinking their fleet by canceling their order.
@rotondi123 i'm boeing all the way, they're well better than airbus, that's why airbus had to copy the a380 and a350 from boeing, the a350 is a 787 with a few differences and the a380 was designed by boeing. go to google.com and type in Boeing NLA and MD-12 and tell me what u think.
i dont agree with your words, 747 is better than A350, 747 has a nice shape. year by year they are changing shape aircraft. sorry but i dont agree with your words
The A350 is the most beautiful plane you've ever seen? You have been deprived. If you want to see the most beautiful plane of all, do a search for "XB-70".
And did you know that you can now operate your cellphones on the A380, but it only depends on the airliner anyways even the 787, the seats are like from the A340s and A380, too common these on these days, thats why the 787 production is fast, but the Airbus Industrie finds another comfort, to the next level, new designs, new technology, new comfort, and so on thats why it will take so long before another Airbus plane is built
No the A350 won't use GenX. The don't have sufficient thrust for the bigger versions and they aren't scalable. However we can assume that if Boeing does launch the 787-10 GE will make a GenX based engine with higher thrust rating for both planes to compete against the Trent XWB.
You do forget that the A350 models are aimed to be bigger then the 787 family, which means more passangers and lower CASM. The A350 with more efficient engines then the Genx and bigger wing it will be 2% more efficient by being available later. Also it will incorporate a lot of technologys the 787 won't have. You should't underrate the A350XWB.
@techdefined THE 787'S ENGINES THE TRENT 1000 IS THE MOST TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED ENGINE EVER BUILT BY ROLLS ROYCE! AND THE A350 IS A 787 WITH A FEW DIFFERENCES
Thats not true, the TrentXWB will be even more advanced . It will include the latest technology and lowest carbon emissions of any widebody engine.
Besides the A350XWB is nowhere a 787 with few differences. Totally wrong.
The A350XWB will have the latest avionics,A380 technologies, aerodynamics and more carbonfiber then the 787. The A350XWB composite frame is built in a 4 shell concept unlike the 787 which is made of barrels sections.
@techdefined the trent xwb is just an updated trent 1000 so there not that different, and boeing have even said future mid-long aircrafts will be based on the 787. my friend's dad works at boeing, just before you say they wont be built on the 787 design! the a350 will just be an updated 787 in my opinion and never as good as 787, boeing's are the best and safest out their, thats why 70-90% of the industry uses boeing's! airbus's fbw is a disaster waiting to happen! already brought down a few !
I don't will argue with a fanboy over his personal opinion. What you write is BS.The 777 and 787 uses FBW too! If Boeing planes are the best and the safest why Airbus has more orders? Why Airbus has built more planes in the last 5 years then Boeing? You have no idea about aviation. I do like Boeing and Airbus both make great products. When you have come down from your blind patriotic hyperboling we can start a discussion based on FACTS else you cannot be taken seriously
@techdefined i've been a aviation enthusiast for 12 years, and if i hadn't got a clue about aviation, do u think i'd be so keen about Boeing and know so much about aircrafts! yeah granted i don't research airbus's work so not all that up to date with everything airbus makes and does but. i'm just saying i prefer boeing and i think thier planes are better than airbus's. i'm not saying airbus aircraft are garbage, their far from it, airbus and boeing are rivals and that's what make's competition!
@guitarplayerforu How you can judge without knowing both companies? Its great for you to prefer Boeing. But to say their planes are better is just wrong. Both companies have planes where their products are the best. The A350 and 787 or (747 A380)don't compete directly. Besides over the last 20 years it was Airbus which moved innovation forwards and Boeing tried to catch up. Examples? Supercritical Wing, twin widebody, FBW, Composites, Just in time assembly, 2-man cockpit, CFRP Wing,Wingbox etc
@techdefined well i've flew on both Airbus and Boeing's and Boeing's are far more comfortable, quieter, smoother ride, and nicer interior than the Airbus plane i flew on. i only ever flown on Airbus's twice but just from those two experiences Boeing has the wow factor for me. but ur right U cant judge companies if U don't travel on both planes. but you get a good fair good idea that Boeing makes the safest and best airplanes cos between 70-80% of the airline industry uses boeing's!
no, a view ex-Boeing Engineers said that the composite materials the Boeing 787 uses, are maybe unsafe, because if it makes a crash landing, there comes a hole or something in the fuselage for the fire to come in, so a aluminum airplane is saver that way...
Yes know about him, he sure have some points but FAA and EASA will take care that composite planes like the 787 and A350 will be perfectly safe or even more safe then the old aluminium made ones. Not to forget that aluminium frames have more danger of corrosion and fatigue.
@techdefined spot on with that one mate! aliminium one's are old now and it's time to change to composite carbon fibre and have much better and nicer planes from boeing and airbus!
I know there are lots of problems with composite materials, but don't forget, even aluminum would melt in the flames. For this reason, the 787 team would make the 787 safer so that it won't crash. Look at the 777, they have over 600 planes and none were lost in crashes. Only one person died in a fuel fire of a british airways 777 but the burnt wing was fixed up and went back into service.
yeah, but the aluminum melts after 7 minutes, thats enough to leave the aircraft. And I am really happy for boeing that the 777 never had a crash like the 737... as far as i know, the Airbus A340 never had a crash where people had to pay there lives, and your telling me now that 1 man died in a fuel fire, so is the A340 saver?
But the numbers of A340 lost cost more than the price of lives. Airlines pay 3 million dollars for each live lost in crashes. Airplanes cost tens of millions or even hundreds. By the way, it wasn't the fault of the 777 that caused the fire.
here on YouTube is an movie (4 parts) of Dan Rathers reports, the composite structure of the 787, search for it on YouTube, watch it and tell me what you think about it! ;) (lol)
They only say disadvantages of composite. Besides all that, there are tons of advantages with composite. I could also make a video making fun of aluminaum too. I could say it's heavy, weak, bad for enviroment, old, can have cracks, flaws, etc. They didn't mention advantages. By the way, i didn't have enough time to watch it.
@buybygb cant wait to go on a 787 as i've followed boeing 787 programme online all the way through even stayed up and watched the 787 take off for the first time from paign field the boeing live webcast.
One for all this isn't the final design of the A350. Btw,they may look similar but they will be pretty diffrent from technical point of view. Both planes have their merits and will look great, but one is for sure the A350XWB will kill the 777. I expect Boeing to launch the 787-10 to compete against the A350-900.
Wrong, the 777-200LR will get a new competitor with the A350-900R which will be the longest range commercial airplane and will be possible capable to do LHR-SYD something the 772LR can't with full payload. Not to talk it will be 17% more efficient.
Most airlines would buy the 787 intead of the A350, even Airbus admits that Boeing had set a "good mouse trap for us". The 787 will enter service in 2008, which means it will beat the A350 by atleast a year. That year difference means everything. The earlier the 787 enters service, the more "% efficient" thing of the A350 has to be increased in order for the profit to catch up with the 787 and 777-200LR profits.
What a rubbish, firstly the A350XWB was launched 11 months ago and has already got 400 Orders/Commitments! That makes it the fastest selling widebody in aviation history. Apart it looks you don't know a lot about aviation and the 777-200LR because it has been sold only 44x times!
@techdefined also Boeing have got over 800 orders for the and since it's been to Farnborough airshow UK its got it's orders increased again, so ur probably talking a good 1000 orders for it as opposed to the A380 AND A350, airlines are more keen on Boeing's cos their safer, more reliable and more comfortable for everyone!
Yeah, of course they're gonna use different technologies. Rubber bands and sticky bubble gum vs real technology. The 787 will win. Buybygb is right. The 787 has already had its roll-out ceremony and may be flying by now. The A350 and all of its variants are still on the drawing board.
How ignorant. This statement shows you don't have a clue what you are talking from. The 787 won't fly this year. Maybe you did notice it has a 6months delay? While its true the A350 is still on drawing boards it will have features like variable chamber wing technology,Trent XWB,SILENCER Program, more CFRP and GLARE2. Anyway both the 787 and A350 are technical marvels.
You see, although they finally introduced it, but they still haven't built it yet. Boeing 787 is already built. By the way, the last time I checked, the 787 has over 700 orders and many on optional. That two times of the A350.
Nope its not introduced and at the moment the prototype is nothing more then a empty frame with temporary fasteners. As i said the A350 was launched 11 months ago and has already 400 orders while the 787 since 2004!! That doesn't mean the 787 isn't a good plane, its a fantastic plane and i'm sure it will reach the 1000 mark soon but you shouldn't underrate the A350 yet.
@techdefined I've been a very keen aviation enthusiast since age 7 and I'm 19 now and still very keen aviation enthusiast and am a huge Boeing fan, but got to agree on the a350 XWB will take over the 777! and yeah Boeing are gonna make a 787-10 to compete with the A350XWB, it's so exiting aint it?
More like Airbus rocks on making airlines dissatisfied. Both FedEx and UPS cancled all orders of A380s since it delayed for a long time which makes cargo A380 orders to ZERO! Even better, FedEx went to Boeing to buy Cargo 777s. More like FedEx rocks! By the way, the 787 delay is only half a year, one fourth of the A380.
Do you know how fast Boeing developed the 747 back in the late 60s? Back then the 747 was two times larger than the largest airliner (707) of the time. It took less than a year from first flight of the 747 to delivery with Pan Am. Now Airbus was also making a plane that is two and a half bla bla bla... took a minimum of 2 years from first flight to delivery.
Its because the 747s parts are too common in those days, but the A380 is the 21st Century flagship introducing comfort to the next level plus serving AVGOD(Audio Video Games On Demand) right to your own Personal Liquid Crystal Display Screen and seats that could fold up to 180 degrees
Lots of thing didn't exist when the 747 was made. First, the fact that the plane is two and a half times larger which is the biggest problem. It also means a lot more wires, new engines, and even a new production factory built just for the 747. By the way, audio has already been made for ther airbus aircrafts, such as the A330 before the A380. Also, the 180 dregrees also existed to many airlines. I've seen them before the A380 was made.
What I meant was "Aircraft" not "Airliners/Airlines" the A330 has seats like that in their first class, and the A340 has like those on first and business class
Still, that ment that the parts existed, so the A380 shouldn't of had any trouble. If all you needed to do was make all the seats like that, then do so. All you need to do is add more wires and seats.
REAL aviation enthusiasts see planes as planes. At least I do. I've been in love with planes ever since I can remember in my 19 years of life. My favorite planes are based on design and not the manufacturer, that's just irrelevant labeling.
strovrpwr 4 months ago
They don't look similar at all. Especially when you consider that the basic airplane is a tube with wings. How different can they get? What do you want to see from Airbus? A square? A tube with wings and under-wing mounted engines is currently the most efficient "style." To all you nutters who say Airbus copied Boeing, or vice versa, why don't you come up with an airplane that looks completely different from anything flying today... and has the same, or better, operating economics.
scaremengaviation 8 months ago
If the A350 did "copy" the 787, what sense would that be? Airbus and Boeing have completely different ideologies.. does anybody hear honestly think that Airbus would throw away all it's work since it's inception just to gain the upper hand? In that case, there would be no A380, A330, or A320 (all of which are in their own niches--separate from Boeing). They do things differently to make more money.
Like Apple and Microsoft..
scaremengaviation 10 months ago
@samsam3732 It's impossible to convince guys like UKSniper4.
I believe the proper saying is "where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise"
Most pilots choose Airbus, at least here in the Netherlands I see a trend like that. (I'm one of them.)
kaaskopje1988 1 year ago
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It's impossible to convince guys like UKSniper4.
I believe the proper saying is "where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise"
Most pilots choose Airbus, at least here in the Netherlands I see a trend like that. (I'm one of them.)
kaaskopje1988 1 year ago
Boeing is going down... Airbus is the leader now...
dks11000 1 year ago
@dks11000 What makes you say that?
scaremengaviation 10 months ago
dude seriosly airbus is way better their has been like 10 747 crashes okand alot of 737 crashs and a 767 crash 2 months afte it was bought and the comftorability has nothing to do with it that isthe airlines choice and a350 is 5 inches wider then 787
samsam3723 1 year ago
@samsam3723 In retrospect though the boeing counterparts have been around a lot longer than the airbus'.
NickPwnsUTube 11 months ago
@mattndspike i agree,least787 flying now, may have took boeing a extra 2 year than anticipated but lok at the stunning 787 dreamliner what now flying, thats what boeing has always been well know for quality, reliability, safety and innovation. airbs can't get an aircraft the whats nearly the same as 787 flying, and they had to redesign the A350 airlines hated original design! airbus need to work with boeing. it'd be better if they did planes together and it'd stop all this arguing who's best!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
to me those wings look weird might as well they jut use there regular winglets instead of his raked wing tip thats really curved
bigkevinpetrona 1 year ago
@bigkevinpetrona they used the same wings as the 787 i think or their very similar!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu nope
the wings are not the same
the b787 is raked wing tips like on the b773ER and b777LR
but the airbus a350 is still winglets but its is shaped different thats all when they build it and doing there flight test u will see the difference
bigkevinpetrona 1 year ago
@bigkevinpetrona the 787's wings are completely brand new, the 773 and 777lr never had winglets! boeing designed a new wing for the 787 and 747-8i
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu i never said that the b773 and 772LR had winglets
i said the b787 is using the same design raked wingtips thats what its called but the 787 wings bend more i think its like 35 degrees more flex im not sure
but i said that the a350 to me is still using a winglet design but i have to see the plane itself
bigkevinpetrona 1 year ago
@bigkevinpetrona oh right sorry, i must had misread it, yeah the wing-flex is brill, and i think the Boeing 787 dreamliner will out do the a350 by far, cos notice recently a hell of a lot of Airbus's have crashed! not that Airbus's tech's bad but to have a fair few Airbus planes crashing aint good on Airbus, people may cancel A380 with all these Airbus crashes recently cause of the Airbus on-board systems causing the airplane to crash, maybe its a major flaw in all airbus design's. 787 will win!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu yeah
but im a little worried about the carbon fiber body of the b787 but then again they know best right but i still like the b787 more than the a350 and it will never repalce the b777 to me the b777,b747 and b787 is in a class of there own
bigkevinpetrona 1 year ago
@bigkevinpetrona yeah i agree if it ain't boeing it ain't going the b777,b747,b787 are all aviation legends
UKsniper4 1 year ago
@UKsniper4 i know man i love the b777 and the b747 and right now im in love with the b787 it looks so good i think they did a good job
i want to see the a350 because it will still not see that many sales like the b777 i feel
bigkevinpetrona 1 year ago
@bigkevinpetrona i agree i don't think the a350 will be as popular as the b777 because if it ain't boeing it ain't going.
UKsniper4 1 year ago
@UKsniper4 "If it ain't Boeing it ain't going" isn't even a popular phrase.. it's "I ain't going." Nice credibility on your part. And on that phrase, you're really going to state how well something will sell based off of something that Boeing "nationals" started saying? Really? How about some legitimate quotes. Dumbass. You make Boeing fans look stupid.
scaremengaviation 10 months ago
@UKsniper4 And anyways, it doesn't matter what YOU think. You know why? Because Boeing spent years and millions of dollars researching into what plane they should build and how they should go about doing it. If you think that you, with keyboard and quote of boundless wisdom, have more know-how than those geniuses, you need help. Serious help. Same goes for the A350/A380 haters.
scaremengaviation 10 months ago
Personally I think the whole Boeing vs Airbus battle is stupid. I respect Boeing for its designs such as the 747 and 787. While at the same time I respect Airbus for challenging the juggernaut with the 380 and 350. Both aircraft are beautiful, both aircraft have to meet the same standards. Its pointless to bicker which one is better.
The only reason this rivalry exists is because of dip stick nationalists. This world would be so much better without them.
mobius5759 2 years ago 46
I' m glad there's the debate over which is better. That means each company will continue to try and produce better and better aircraft. All the better for the passengers and airlines!
fsxnoob1 2 years ago 5
Finally someone with some god damn common sense on here.
I would tolerate these discussions if they were based on knowledge and facts. They are however ridden with misconceptions, unsubstantiated ideas and rumours and downright lies - especially towards A.
These days A and B are splitting the market 50:50 and that's for a simple reason: they both make equally advanced, equally safe and equally economical planes.
Sha1tan 2 years ago 2
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@mobius5759 GE said no to A350 cuz Boeing isCo-Partner with General Electric fuel efficient engines. Airbus really dug a grave for itself in the manner it conducts business + only 1 engine supplier is poor planning. Plus riding rough-shrod + threatning to put Boeing out business. As I said B4 USA is not am employment agency for Airfags. The new Boeing Tanker with new wing + GE Series of fuel efficient engine with less carbon emission is Boeings calling card + there R + 1000 order for B787'S!
LottoWinner999 1 year ago
@mobius5759 Rivalry needs to exist. Otherwise, we'd have pretty boring airplanes. IMO, that's why we have anti-monopoly laws. Imagine the U.S. with one commercial airline. One car-manufacturer. The same drawbacks would be present if there was one global producer of air-frames. No innovation.
scaremengaviation 8 months ago
My next type...
javirouch 2 years ago
Why are boeing boys so jealous about Airbus???
beavertown2006 2 years ago 2
??? No Boeing fans are jealous of Airbus? Are you kidding me? I wouldn't fly in those "Paper" like planes if you paid me to.
Mav1843 2 years ago
i can't wait till this comes out 8P
qoohkLive7 2 years ago
Airbus is miles better than boeing..boeing are being overtaken by airbus and have no response to them..come on airbus..
eamoman651 2 years ago
That's why their planes keep on crashing! Boeing will be dominating as soon as the 787 comes out. Meanwhile, the A380 is doing as poorly as planned. Way to go Airbus!
Mav1843 2 years ago
Crashing..oh my god and a boeing has never crashed is it?? its only ye americans who think boeing is better no other person outside yer little world likes them or would fly them
eamoman651 2 years ago
You don't pay attention to news do you? Airbus aircraft have crashed four times in the past 2 months. I didn't say that Boeing's haven't crashed before, but that Airbus seems to have the same design flaws with each crash, ex: The Composite Vertical Stabilizer Bolts. Also, that's why %70 of the world uses Boeings.
Mav1843 2 years ago
i do actually..Ya alot of planes do crash and most aren't the manufactures falt im not sayin they are not at all responsapile fpr a cras but alot of the time it is poor handeling that causes a problem..how can fly by wire be a bad thing most plane crashes ane due to human error..
eamoman651 2 years ago
I agree. But, in Airbus' case, manufacturer errors occur more frequently. Also regarding Fly By Wire, Airbus has practically taken the pilot out of the aircraft. If you've ever flown one before, you'd know. With Boeing, the PIC has more control of what he wants the Aircraft to do.
Mav1843 2 years ago
@Mav1843 thats what i'm unsure about in airbus's, in an emergency, god forbid, the pilot can't take full control in a airbus were he can in a boeing but it's weird cos both airbus and boeing are using fly by wire now, boeing in the 777 and 787 and 747-8I but why does a pilot have more control over a boeing when airbus and boeing both use fly by wire?
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@eamoman651 because the variation of fly by wire in any airbus airplane won't let a pilot take over once in flight so if there's an emergency were a pilot needs to fly manually he can't, so ur ****** well n truly. but boeing's u can cos they use a different type of fly by wire! but airbus's fly by wire has caused a lot of their airplanes to crash!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@eamoman651 i would and i'm a brit, boeing's are well better than airbus's always have been and always will be, i love beoing's better than airbus's, i mean who needs the a380 when u have a b747 what's perfectly fine. and airbus never designed the a380! take a look at this and then tell me who's idea and design it was. GO TO GOOGLE AND TYPE IN MD-12 AND THEN TYPE BOEING NLA. THEN TELL ME WHO REALLY DESIGNED THE A380!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu ya ok so y didnt boeing put it into production..who did airbus..ahh correct me if im wrong but its bigger better more efficiant and luxurious
eamoman651 1 year ago
@eamoman651 but originally boeing and airbus come up with the design as you saw on google boeing NLA, but boeing and airbus didn't agree to it in the end and both companies went their own seperate ways and airbus thought they'd continue that design that boeing and themselves had come up with and thats what's now become the A380, was originally call Boeing NLA! i think boeing will do the same as airbus eventually and make the boeing NLA later rather than soonr. insted boeing have made 787 & 748
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu tell me so y didnt boeing make it instead of the 747..its cockpit is 2 far off the groung compared with the airbus and this makes it nicer to fly
eamoman651 1 year ago
@eamoman651 they said originally it'd wouldn't work, no airport would be able to accommodate such a monster aircraft and it was airbus and boeing who joined hand to make the Boeing NLA. the 747 is far better than the a380, it banks quicker for a start and its the safest aircraft flying and has been for 47 yearsand will continue sto stay safest aircraft flying with the 747-8I coming in 2012
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu ya but they went and made the 747 less fuel effeciant andtakes more room to take off..it took airports years to recieve them cause the couldnt accomadate it ya but you cannot say that the a 380 isnt safe can you?
eamoman651 1 year ago
@eamoman651 of course a A380 is safe, the 747 remains the safest plane flying tho. but yeah certainly the a380's safe or the FAA wouldn't of certified it for flight! most pilots i speak to say they prefer to fly the 747 cos it banks quicker and is slightly more responsive.
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu ya of corse cause there is more 747s
eamoman651 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu I do agree that the 747 is hands down one of the safest aircraft in the sky, but even though the FAA slaps an Airworthiness Sticker on the side of the plane like the A380 doesn't make it safe.
Mav1843 1 year ago
@Mav1843 i know, they say that airbus's fly by wire has made some of their airplanes crash, that's the real danger of fly by wire, once in flight with any airbus the computer won't let a pilot do dangerous things but in some cases like an emergency when u need to lose altitude fast it won't let the pilot take over and do a very steep decent almost like a nose dive.
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@Mav1843 actually with the global recession bums on seats will pay more than the 787
eamoman651 1 year ago
How?
EnvisionProd 2 years ago
A350 isnt even fly yet, so how can know what it look? And i think boeing 787 suck, i´m really suprise if they can get it fly.
Pvjinflight 2 years ago
Does XWB stand for extra wide body? :D
fafakuk 3 years ago
yes
Jakesters777 2 years ago
wow those fuckers from airbus copying boeing!
j00ssens1 3 years ago
wtf dude they didnt copy boeing they just have a similar exterior dumbass dont be bad mouthin airbus
Guitargod4ever45 3 years ago 17
@Guitargod4ever45 Similar exteriors? Similar doesn't cut it with this kind of stuff.. one small difference and everything can be different. Regardless, the A350 looks nothing like the 787. That's like saying the A350 looks like the 767. We'll see similarities where we want to see them.
scaremengaviation 10 months ago
Lol im suprise if boeing can get 787 fly.
Pvjinflight 2 years ago
Check you're english, then talk shit.
Jakesters777 2 years ago
Sorry, my english suck because isn´t my home language, and i´m learn it.
And i know what A350 look now, there is some oficial pictures of it... That comment is 2 months old.
I hope boeing get 787 fly before 2010.
Pvjinflight 2 years ago 3
It'll fly, and too bad airbus lost out on the US tanker deal:( poor airbus:(
Jakesters777 2 years ago
no they didnt? Airbust got it
tonightwefly 2 years ago
Air Force actually is reopening bidding for the deal
Jakesters777 2 years ago
787 copy
jjtc100 3 years ago
@jjtc100 exactly! and airbus fanactics don't like the fact cos it's the 787 with airbus's name, wider body and wider windows, but use xwb engine's. instead of trent 1000's what is the best engine out there and most efficient.
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
well u wouldnt see a plane flying below the sea would you|?
Zodiacfir3 3 years ago 4
If its an airbus you would. Haha I am so bad. (Think About it)
TomaszB007 2 years ago
@TomaszB007 yeah i'm a boeing fanatic and i think it is a bit too harsh on airbus cos they are good planes. personally i don't know why airbus and boeing don't give up and make one big company and build great plane's together!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
Do you think that the A350 will have same composite problems as the 787? As of now boeing is still revising the design of the 787's materials
markuks 3 years ago
I think they will.
StormyP101 2 years ago
@markuks yeah i think so cos it's a 787 with a wider body and xwb engines and airbus's name on it! so yeah all the same problems!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
didnt airbus have that sort of design first
korbus101 3 years ago
ya whats wrong with watching a damn video, im a boeing fan but airbus has planes that I like, A300, A340, A318. What i think is that the fight against the 787 and the A350 is going to be a good one. One more thing Mw, FUCK U
0110012 3 years ago
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Way to try to copy boeing again fucking Airbus. Long live the 787!!!!, and 747, and 757, and 767, and 777, and pretty much all the boeing planes execpt for the retired ones.
0110012 3 years ago
M8 why are you even watching this if you're such a boeing fanboy. And seriously whats up with boeing and that tanker contract. They're being really sore LOSERS.
mwesch6 3 years ago
@mwesch6 airbus are just crafty and their very similar to boeing anyway just like the a350 XWB is a 787 with a wider body, XWB engines and the airbus name on it. in my opinion both company should merge and make planes together more innovation their if they did that and it'd stop all this arguing about who best.
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
sur airbus didn't copy boeing to build the 380 ! joke ! and stop acting like children, all of you.
mogofou 3 years ago
Excuse me, the A350 is built on the A380 experience...in short the A350's cabin is like the A380's cabin without the second deck..thats why the A350 is 5 inches wider than the 787 and the walls go pretty much straighter the same as the A380's main deck...the A350 has panoramic windows..super cooler than the 787's 19" tall windows looks like it will add stress on the aircraft's fuselage..and also A350 vs. B767 B777 & B787 woo! 1 against 3? thats on brave Airbus!
jewelshare 3 years ago 2
@jewelshare airbus will lose and i know they will do just like they have will the a380 as opposed to the 787, 787 biggest seller hehe airbus lost. the a380 failed its environmentally friendly tests too and thats fact.
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
The A350 is same size as B777?
cuttingwoodnow 4 years ago
A bit smaller
S7r0ng3r 4 years ago 3
the A350 will replace the A330^_^ and yes the A350 is a bit smaller than the 777 and a bit bigger than the A330, with the Rolls Royce Trent XWB and the cabin designed by the BMW, the A350 is built by the A380 experience, the A350 is to compete with the 777 and the 787 after they outwit the A330 and the A340, weee! future planes! so cool!
jewelshare 3 years ago
For jewelshare reply. Cool sound!
cuttingwoodnow 3 years ago
Wahihi^_^ thanks! I hope the B797 would be finished soon! to compete with the A350! I loved it how technology evolve...what will the future look like
jewelshare 3 years ago
@jewelshare not being awful to airbus but the A350 looks like a exact copy of the 787 and the interior looks very similar but i hat those panoramic windows, not as innovvative as the electric windows on the 787. but airbus are good, but boeing's are better in my eye's. but can't wait to go one the 787 and a380.
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
Ugly plane 787 is better
yazpaul 4 years ago
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ugly aircraft
luizpigeon 4 years ago
you said that A350 XWB is ugly?? if you think it about this airplane, what do you think about B747? extremely ugly, not?
The A350 XWB is the most beautiful airplane i've ever seen!
marcelosimao 4 years ago 4
The coolest, also! I hope chrsitoff31 upload all the videos on the airbus/a350 site and the a350 site! Its so nice go Airbus go!
jewelshare 4 years ago
and 747 is the safest.airbus sucks.y do u think boeing make 90% of the worlds aircraft.Fuck all of u who like air bus and fuck airbus and fuck the people who dont like 747
rotondi123 3 years ago
Dude, take a chill pill, Airbus is a good company, but I really like Boeing alot better, because they been around much longer than airbus has, so don't just say F you to people just because they like airbus better.
Aviator178 3 years ago 2
Why do Boeing fans like you rotondi123 discriminate Airbus fans? All of these fights started when the A380 got launched, ah! I know you are just scared that Airbus is going to outwit Boeing or something? Or maybe you're just jealous because Airbus has a complete double deck arrangement? and you have no rights to say Fs on me "I am what I am" and you cannot change me for what I am because you are just a human like me
jewelshare 3 years ago
I agree, both Airbus and Boeing facing same problem but Boeing facing more larger problem now. In fact, they paying $145 billions just for compensation. Boeing also worry major carrier starts to shrinking their fleet by canceling their order.
Donz5885 3 years ago
Where in the world do you get your statistics?
S7r0ng3r 3 years ago
@rotondi123 hahahahahahahafuck this fuck that fuck everything...are you an anyry little person
eamoman651 1 year ago
@rotondi123 i'm boeing all the way, they're well better than airbus, that's why airbus had to copy the a380 and a350 from boeing, the a350 is a 787 with a few differences and the a380 was designed by boeing. go to google.com and type in Boeing NLA and MD-12 and tell me what u think.
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
i dont agree with your words, 747 is better than A350, 747 has a nice shape. year by year they are changing shape aircraft. sorry but i dont agree with your words
luizpigeon 4 years ago
airbus a350 is an ugly aircraft
yazpaul 4 years ago
FOr yazpaul. You dont understand. This is new future design shape like B787 than today. Little boy!
cuttingwoodnow 3 years ago
Cuttingwoodnow I don't really understand what you are talking about.. Could you explain further what you mean. hahahaha
yazpaul 3 years ago
For Yazpaul reply. Hahaha??? there nothing!
cuttingwoodnow 3 years ago
NO, B747 are beautiful bird. I love B747.
cuttingwoodnow 4 years ago
The A350 is the most beautiful plane you've ever seen? You have been deprived. If you want to see the most beautiful plane of all, do a search for "XB-70".
Rhenoism 3 years ago
@marcelosimao i keep telling people its a 787 dreamliner with wider boyd, slightly different interior, and different engines.
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
And did you know that you can now operate your cellphones on the A380, but it only depends on the airliner anyways even the 787, the seats are like from the A340s and A380, too common these on these days, thats why the 787 production is fast, but the Airbus Industrie finds another comfort, to the next level, new designs, new technology, new comfort, and so on thats why it will take so long before another Airbus plane is built
jewelshare 4 years ago
I hate to be racist, but this appears to be yet another amazing British engineering feat.
lord0nelson 4 years ago
FIRST FLIGHT OF THE BOEING 787 DREAMLINER IS ON THE 31ST OF MARCH!
03/31/08 = FIRST FLIGHT 787!
WRITE IN YOUR CALENDER! (lol)
JaanAir 4 years ago
I did. Thanks!
buybygb 4 years ago
thank you so much i love boeing!
BoeingNerd 4 years ago
with what airline
planexprt 4 years ago
Nope...
It isn´t...
Actually Boeing Co. delayed once more the first test...until June...LOL
What a FOOL you are...LOL
arsenium666 4 years ago
now we are a year down the line and still no flight lol
tonightwefly 2 years ago
isnt the a350 gonna use genx's too? if so, YOU ARE NOT A BOEING OR AIRBUS FAN, YOUR A FREKIN LEARJET FAN.
doyouhavedrift 4 years ago
No the A350 won't use GenX. The don't have sufficient thrust for the bigger versions and they aren't scalable. However we can assume that if Boeing does launch the 787-10 GE will make a GenX based engine with higher thrust rating for both planes to compete against the Trent XWB.
techdefined 4 years ago
@doyouhavedrift no the a350 is only gonna have an specialised engine made for it, and thats the Rolls Royce Trent XWB
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
Copycat of the 787. Sorry fokes but I heard that the A350 wouldn't work because the 787 will beat the A350 by a year.
buybygb 4 years ago
You do forget that the A350 models are aimed to be bigger then the 787 family, which means more passangers and lower CASM. The A350 with more efficient engines then the Genx and bigger wing it will be 2% more efficient by being available later. Also it will incorporate a lot of technologys the 787 won't have. You should't underrate the A350XWB.
techdefined 4 years ago
Still, most airlines are aimed towards the 787 intead.
buybygb 4 years ago
Not true. Please do research before claiming such things.
techdefined 4 years ago
Look at the number of orders.
buybygb 4 years ago
Look at the rate both are selling:
A350 launched 11months ago with 404 orders makes roughly 1,1 orders/day.
787 launched in December 2003 with 736 orders makes roughly 0,9 orders/day.
techdefined 4 years ago
@techdefined THE 787'S ENGINES THE TRENT 1000 IS THE MOST TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED ENGINE EVER BUILT BY ROLLS ROYCE! AND THE A350 IS A 787 WITH A FEW DIFFERENCES
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu
Thats not true, the TrentXWB will be even more advanced . It will include the latest technology and lowest carbon emissions of any widebody engine.
Besides the A350XWB is nowhere a 787 with few differences. Totally wrong.
The A350XWB will have the latest avionics,A380 technologies, aerodynamics and more carbonfiber then the 787. The A350XWB composite frame is built in a 4 shell concept unlike the 787 which is made of barrels sections.
techdefined 1 year ago
@techdefined the trent xwb is just an updated trent 1000 so there not that different, and boeing have even said future mid-long aircrafts will be based on the 787. my friend's dad works at boeing, just before you say they wont be built on the 787 design! the a350 will just be an updated 787 in my opinion and never as good as 787, boeing's are the best and safest out their, thats why 70-90% of the industry uses boeing's! airbus's fbw is a disaster waiting to happen! already brought down a few !
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu
I don't will argue with a fanboy over his personal opinion. What you write is BS.The 777 and 787 uses FBW too! If Boeing planes are the best and the safest why Airbus has more orders? Why Airbus has built more planes in the last 5 years then Boeing? You have no idea about aviation. I do like Boeing and Airbus both make great products. When you have come down from your blind patriotic hyperboling we can start a discussion based on FACTS else you cannot be taken seriously
techdefined 1 year ago
@techdefined i've been a aviation enthusiast for 12 years, and if i hadn't got a clue about aviation, do u think i'd be so keen about Boeing and know so much about aircrafts! yeah granted i don't research airbus's work so not all that up to date with everything airbus makes and does but. i'm just saying i prefer boeing and i think thier planes are better than airbus's. i'm not saying airbus aircraft are garbage, their far from it, airbus and boeing are rivals and that's what make's competition!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@guitarplayerforu How you can judge without knowing both companies? Its great for you to prefer Boeing. But to say their planes are better is just wrong. Both companies have planes where their products are the best. The A350 and 787 or (747 A380)don't compete directly. Besides over the last 20 years it was Airbus which moved innovation forwards and Boeing tried to catch up. Examples? Supercritical Wing, twin widebody, FBW, Composites, Just in time assembly, 2-man cockpit, CFRP Wing,Wingbox etc
techdefined 1 year ago
@techdefined well i've flew on both Airbus and Boeing's and Boeing's are far more comfortable, quieter, smoother ride, and nicer interior than the Airbus plane i flew on. i only ever flown on Airbus's twice but just from those two experiences Boeing has the wow factor for me. but ur right U cant judge companies if U don't travel on both planes. but you get a good fair good idea that Boeing makes the safest and best airplanes cos between 70-80% of the airline industry uses boeing's!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
no, a view ex-Boeing Engineers said that the composite materials the Boeing 787 uses, are maybe unsafe, because if it makes a crash landing, there comes a hole or something in the fuselage for the fire to come in, so a aluminum airplane is saver that way...
JaanAir 4 years ago
Yes know about him, he sure have some points but FAA and EASA will take care that composite planes like the 787 and A350 will be perfectly safe or even more safe then the old aluminium made ones. Not to forget that aluminium frames have more danger of corrosion and fatigue.
techdefined 4 years ago
I guess only time would tell who is right.
buybygb 4 years ago
Couldn't agree more.
techdefined 4 years ago
@techdefined spot on with that one mate! aliminium one's are old now and it's time to change to composite carbon fibre and have much better and nicer planes from boeing and airbus!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
I know there are lots of problems with composite materials, but don't forget, even aluminum would melt in the flames. For this reason, the 787 team would make the 787 safer so that it won't crash. Look at the 777, they have over 600 planes and none were lost in crashes. Only one person died in a fuel fire of a british airways 777 but the burnt wing was fixed up and went back into service.
buybygb 4 years ago
yeah, but the aluminum melts after 7 minutes, thats enough to leave the aircraft. And I am really happy for boeing that the 777 never had a crash like the 737... as far as i know, the Airbus A340 never had a crash where people had to pay there lives, and your telling me now that 1 man died in a fuel fire, so is the A340 saver?
JaanAir 4 years ago
But the numbers of A340 lost cost more than the price of lives. Airlines pay 3 million dollars for each live lost in crashes. Airplanes cost tens of millions or even hundreds. By the way, it wasn't the fault of the 777 that caused the fire.
buybygb 4 years ago
here on YouTube is an movie (4 parts) of Dan Rathers reports, the composite structure of the 787, search for it on YouTube, watch it and tell me what you think about it! ;) (lol)
JaanAir 4 years ago
They only say disadvantages of composite. Besides all that, there are tons of advantages with composite. I could also make a video making fun of aluminaum too. I could say it's heavy, weak, bad for enviroment, old, can have cracks, flaws, etc. They didn't mention advantages. By the way, i didn't have enough time to watch it.
buybygb 4 years ago
@buybygb cant wait to go on a 787 as i've followed boeing 787 programme online all the way through even stayed up and watched the 787 take off for the first time from paign field the boeing live webcast.
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
@buybygb THE A350 IS A EXACT COPY OF 787, JUST A BIT WIDER AND IT HAS AIRBUS XWB INSTEAD OF BOEING DREAMLINER!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
One for all this isn't the final design of the A350. Btw,they may look similar but they will be pretty diffrent from technical point of view. Both planes have their merits and will look great, but one is for sure the A350XWB will kill the 777. I expect Boeing to launch the 787-10 to compete against the A350-900.
techdefined 4 years ago
Not really because the 777 program would still have it's 777-200LR which is the longest range airliner in the world.
buybygb 4 years ago
Wrong, the 777-200LR will get a new competitor with the A350-900R which will be the longest range commercial airplane and will be possible capable to do LHR-SYD something the 772LR can't with full payload. Not to talk it will be 17% more efficient.
techdefined 4 years ago
Most airlines would buy the 787 intead of the A350, even Airbus admits that Boeing had set a "good mouse trap for us". The 787 will enter service in 2008, which means it will beat the A350 by atleast a year. That year difference means everything. The earlier the 787 enters service, the more "% efficient" thing of the A350 has to be increased in order for the profit to catch up with the 787 and 777-200LR profits.
buybygb 4 years ago
What a rubbish, firstly the A350XWB was launched 11 months ago and has already got 400 Orders/Commitments! That makes it the fastest selling widebody in aviation history. Apart it looks you don't know a lot about aviation and the 777-200LR because it has been sold only 44x times!
techdefined 4 years ago
@techdefined also Boeing have got over 800 orders for the and since it's been to Farnborough airshow UK its got it's orders increased again, so ur probably talking a good 1000 orders for it as opposed to the A380 AND A350, airlines are more keen on Boeing's cos their safer, more reliable and more comfortable for everyone!
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
Yeah, of course they're gonna use different technologies. Rubber bands and sticky bubble gum vs real technology. The 787 will win. Buybygb is right. The 787 has already had its roll-out ceremony and may be flying by now. The A350 and all of its variants are still on the drawing board.
orcamistress101 4 years ago
How ignorant. This statement shows you don't have a clue what you are talking from. The 787 won't fly this year. Maybe you did notice it has a 6months delay? While its true the A350 is still on drawing boards it will have features like variable chamber wing technology,Trent XWB,SILENCER Program, more CFRP and GLARE2. Anyway both the 787 and A350 are technical marvels.
techdefined 4 years ago
You see, although they finally introduced it, but they still haven't built it yet. Boeing 787 is already built. By the way, the last time I checked, the 787 has over 700 orders and many on optional. That two times of the A350.
buybygb 4 years ago
Nope its not introduced and at the moment the prototype is nothing more then a empty frame with temporary fasteners. As i said the A350 was launched 11 months ago and has already 400 orders while the 787 since 2004!! That doesn't mean the 787 isn't a good plane, its a fantastic plane and i'm sure it will reach the 1000 mark soon but you shouldn't underrate the A350 yet.
techdefined 4 years ago
@techdefined I've been a very keen aviation enthusiast since age 7 and I'm 19 now and still very keen aviation enthusiast and am a huge Boeing fan, but got to agree on the a350 XWB will take over the 777! and yeah Boeing are gonna make a 787-10 to compete with the A350XWB, it's so exiting aint it?
guitarplayerforu 1 year ago
So...the 787 first flight...wasn´t intended to occur...some day...at the end of September 2007?
Had i heard some Boeing spekeman pronuncing the word delay...with an suspicious low voice...until the end of October?
Nope, i must have dreamt about it Yep.
IOL.
Try the 787 NightmareLiner...you know...as the Sonic Cruiser...it can´t even Fly.
burrichello 4 years ago
NightMareLiner, or Dreamkiller? :P lol
JaanAir 4 years ago
Atleast it's better than the 2 year delayed A380.
buybygb 4 years ago
Well back in the late 60s, many people didn't believe the 747 would fly... but now, it's a world famous airliner.
buybygb 4 years ago
airbus rocks!!! boeing sucks!!
josedavid1991 4 years ago 3
More like Airbus rocks on making airlines dissatisfied. Both FedEx and UPS cancled all orders of A380s since it delayed for a long time which makes cargo A380 orders to ZERO! Even better, FedEx went to Boeing to buy Cargo 777s. More like FedEx rocks! By the way, the 787 delay is only half a year, one fourth of the A380.
buybygb 4 years ago
your thinking is so stupid
vasketo3 4 years ago
How is it stupid? You need facts to support your answer.
buybygb 4 years ago
do u know how long it takes to build an A380
vasketo3 4 years ago
Do you know how fast Boeing developed the 747 back in the late 60s? Back then the 747 was two times larger than the largest airliner (707) of the time. It took less than a year from first flight of the 747 to delivery with Pan Am. Now Airbus was also making a plane that is two and a half bla bla bla... took a minimum of 2 years from first flight to delivery.
buybygb 4 years ago
Its because the 747s parts are too common in those days, but the A380 is the 21st Century flagship introducing comfort to the next level plus serving AVGOD(Audio Video Games On Demand) right to your own Personal Liquid Crystal Display Screen and seats that could fold up to 180 degrees
jewelshare 4 years ago
Lots of thing didn't exist when the 747 was made. First, the fact that the plane is two and a half times larger which is the biggest problem. It also means a lot more wires, new engines, and even a new production factory built just for the 747. By the way, audio has already been made for ther airbus aircrafts, such as the A330 before the A380. Also, the 180 dregrees also existed to many airlines. I've seen them before the A380 was made.
buybygb 4 years ago
What I meant was "Aircraft" not "Airliners/Airlines" the A330 has seats like that in their first class, and the A340 has like those on first and business class
jewelshare 4 years ago
Still, that ment that the parts existed, so the A380 shouldn't of had any trouble. If all you needed to do was make all the seats like that, then do so. All you need to do is add more wires and seats.
buybygb 4 years ago
Something just popped up on my stupid head...
What is Boeing and Airbus get merged? ahhh, that would be so stupid as me...crazy me
jewelshare 4 years ago 2
Oh Well, both planes are already in production.
buybygb 4 years ago
But the 787 is this year, the A350 is in 2013
jewelshare 4 years ago