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  • Nice segue into subject. Very masterful

  • I'd rather lose my hearing than my eye sight. lol.

  • i bet the implante useres would love dubstep with a heavy sub

  • a musician AND a surgeon? must be the son of "high expectation asian dad"

  • The reason Beethoven was able to compose after going deaf is that he had perfect pitch so he could "hear" pitches in his mind without external reference. And he did not lose 100% of his hearing as he sawed the legs off his piano and put his head to the floor to faintly hear tones

  • @Majoritis or maybe to feel vibrations. . .

  • 19 people want subtitles

  • Genius

  • I think 95% of humanity has lost its common sense :-/

  • Does anyone know the name of the piece that the boy is playing on the piano?

  • dude your stupid :)

  • This is completely unheard of ! ... specially in the deaf community. sorry I'm out =>[]

  • 1:36 - 2:05 that was very Feynman of you the way you explained it

  • Can anyone explain how speakers of tonal languages, like Chinese, are able to communicate in said languages after cochlear implants? Or is the answer as simple as, they can't?

  • Maybe music that sounds out of tune for us will sound great for people with hearing problems. That could be like a whole new market! All you have to do is alter the original version and that's it. Money in the bank!

  • @masterofsynapsis Piss off. I'm a CI recipient and I could tell the difference between the different Usher songs and the Violin and Trumpet, and the song at the beginning, it was very 'out of tune' the second time and not as cheerful and vibrant as it 'appeared' to be the first time. So I kindly and respectfully beg you to consider that this 'display of our finest' is not that, it is what he perceives to be the 'finest'. So get back to synapsing and understand that he might just be wrong.

  • The title had me expecting something on on music and psychology or psycho-acoustics, but it only alludes to these fascinating topics and makes those areas seem depressingly feeble. Still this is amazing technology. I assume it's also far from able to provide the phase discrimination that assists us in locating the source of sounds. I would be very interested in knowing more about the technical limits of these implants so I can better understand the musical gap.

  • 16 people are deaf

  • Does somebody know what he was playing on the piano?

  • @stella456 Chopin's Nocturne Op9 No1 in B flat minor

  • @satyu131089 Thanks!!

  • @stella456 You're welcome... I happen to have learnt this piece, apart from having heard it so many times... Are you a musician too?

  • @satyu131089 I can play the piano, haven't played in over a year though, but when i saw the video I thought that I'd like to learn that when I get to that

  • @stella456 That was Chopin's Nocturne Op. 9 no. 1 in b-flat minor.

  • @durkma2 thank you!

  • I'm taking sign language in high school, and many people born & raised deaf don't want their hearing "restored". I absolutely love music. I compose and I play 5 instruments. My electives in school are booked with band and orchestra. But I understand that people born deaf & raised with sign language much prefer it. It's part of their identity. And "fixing it" is similar to attempting to fix homosexuality in gay individuals- it feels like they're being rejected.

  • @CatFlashBlue Sounds like people born without money for 3 meals a day should not be offered any help, cos starving is their identity... Yes?

  • @satyu131089 Nope. People born without money still have the internal, physically connected instinct to want food- aka they still have hunger. Your analogy is comparable to a hearing person being born in a world without access to music.

    If a person is born deaf they typically have no desire to know what they haven't tried. I can't explain it to you I suppose. It's not a disability to many people. It's a gift. This is their opinions. & they get along just fine.

  • @CatFlashBlue No one forces them to have ears... It's their democratic right to choose not to have ears... But it is about those who want them... Ears just get you better social accessibility like crutches do.... It's better to walk than not, it's better to hear than not also...

  • @CatFlashBlue What's wrong with try to fix homosexuality. Is all about choice isn't it. If people can have a choice to have surgery to change their sex , why shouldn't there also be a choice for people that do want to change their sexual preference. Getting back to the video, is not like people are forcing them deaf people to have implants done, but individually they should have the choice to do so, if the technology became available.

  • @eyu1858945 homosexuality isnt a choice neither is heterosexuality. I dont choose to get a hard on, its something my body is wired to do.

  • @KaylinJH I know homosexuality isn't a choice. What I am saying is that, some people might choose to be straight even though their body tell them otherwise if there be a drug to fix that it be wonderful, just like, being born with a penis isn't a choice, but someone people choose to have it cut off and dress like a lady. And i absolutely have no problem with that. More pussy for me

  • @eyu1858945 Well, I'm transgender & bisexual so I can answer this from a personal standpoint. I identify as a man and as bisexual. I wouldn't want to change it. By "changing" my sex I'm not really changing ME, I'm changing this body that doesn't even belong to me. It's quite different from orientation. The concept is that everything is in the mind, it's buried too deep in there to change that.

  • @CatFlashBlue I'm not against people doing with their body whatever the hell they want, but I've never been able to understand the need to have a sex change, It's weird, if you like guys and you're a guy why would you want female genitals... I don't condemn it, I just don't get it.

  • @SrTeotl For me, people always saw me as a masculine woman, but I always felt like a feminine guy. I'd "forget" that I was a "girl" when I was a little kid. Gender identity is deeply buried into our brains, and each brain in utero is hard-wired to identify with their sexual instincts. I figure as our brains became smarter, we evolved gender identities so the brain wouldn't completely detach itself from the body. Transgender is an accidental mutation. I hope this helps in any way.

  • @CatFlashBlue Actually it does, after reading your response I went to wikipedia and got a little info on intersex, is quite a complex situation, I guess psychologically speaking must be tough to grow up without being able to self-identificate as male or female in a definitive manner... I feel kind of silly not knowing about this... Well, one less ignorant person about the subject, I'll keep reading. Cheers! :)

  • @CatFlashBlue It's a good thing you specified the similarity is found in the feeling of rejection. Nonetheless, it's still an unstable analogy because homosexuality is not a birth defect as being born deaf is. I can imagine some are perfectly happy, hearing impairment and all - but surely you accept that the foremost meaning of "fixing it" is simply helping them out in terms of getting along in common society? The talk itself is about sharing the joy of music - not correcting them.

  • @CatFlashBlue did you just compare an handicap like not being able to hear, to being gay? Deaf people just don't want to be alone at being deaf.

  • @rakketakke No people in the deaf community want to show that being deaf isn't a disability to them. They strive to be treated as regular people. It's a whole different culture, because they speak a different language. It's sort of like social darwinism in America's past- white Americans viewed black Americans as disabled because of their difference in skin color. You have to get past thinking it's a disability.

  • @CatFlashBlue Yes it's another culture and they don't want to be alone, I agree about that. But how did the afro-Amer. react when racism slightly disappeared? They liked it, except for a few. Is the part that brings out the message that they do not want to be cured of deafness just a very small very vocal group (no pun intended). Btw Gay people don't have a disability because they don't miss anything, they don't miss the whole Love thing. Deaf people do miss something, a sense. That's different

  • @rakketakke What? It's not a small group at all.

  • Much as I am grateful for the information...In would like to think that there will soon be a time when the four legged are not used as experimental subjects.

  • @ancestralblue Cheers and Big love to that comment!!

  • @ancestralblue As humans we are the stewards of animals. We have a responsibility to treat them humanely, but they are not like us. They are altogether different from us. And having been to a children's cancer ward, I would rather that a few of our 4 legged friends be used to cure a child's disease than look the same children in the face and say, "sorry, you don't rate the life of a cat in order to figure out what is wrong with you."

  • @cammameil Yes...we are the stewards in this place...here to help facilitate evolution not to profit from it. The children's cancer wards are full of children being treated for profit by the big pharma machine that cares not whether they live or they die as long as it makes money.

    The cures for cancer have been many and snuffed out by the machine as a threat to it's bottom line.Google Harry Hoxie, Max Gershon, The Essiac Cure, Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski. The are known and suppressed.

  • @ancestralblue No, you are way off the rails. I am not going to debate conspiracy theories with you. And it is interesting that you sidestepped the point of my comment: a human is worth more than a cat. Probably because that isn't an argument you want to make. Show me a cat whose life is worth more than a person's life.

  • @cammameil Obviously you are a part of the "industry" and not wanting to deal with the profit motive. The cat "argument"? We are subordinate to natural law. All manipulations of that have led to destruction of all kinds. Until we face that and quit thinking that we are better than the rest of life, we'll just keep destroying everything that we touch. And we have to be much more than profit driven. Allopathy is purely about profit and not about healing.

  • Thankyou for posting!

  • vintage TED

  • so do they just need to widen the frequency range of the implant (for music) or is there some organic link that needs creating?

  • Really interesting to hear this - I just hope we get to see you up on that stage in four or five years telling us how you finally nailed it!

  • Great talk.

  • i remember i had a music teatcher that was deafh and had a hearing mecansm he could controll the volume with a little controller... he used to mute us when we sang so he dident need to hear us xD

  • I feel sorry for the cat.

  • @monkeyrecordsnz i feel sorry for people who cant hear music

  • @kris6682 I feel sorry for people who hears music, especially ones that really enjoys music. Music is for people with problems.

  • @eyu1858945 "Music is for people with problems" i feel sorry for someone that has so many problems that not only can they not enjoy the beauty of music but they are also incapable of admitting they have problems like everyone else get a life and go find some good music to listen to

  • OMG! When the guy talks and 13:45, I thought he was a Singaporean. And | was right! Singaporeans ftw~

  • 0:15

    

  • Very interesting talk, in many ways.

    It takes us into the world of people who literally sense their world differently.

  • This guy looks like the asian nerd from harold and kumar! haha

  • Hey Charles is back!

  • I find this technology astounding, that someone can be born and never hear a note in their life. I think this man is rather inspirational in the research he is doing, but I couldn't help but laugh when he said "A deaf surgeon is largely unheard of", he didn't even realise he did it.

  • His name is Limb yet he builds muscle, quite oxymoronic if u ask me

  • What is the name of the piece and composer at 13:00?

    Also, more TEDMED talks!!

  • "This is really unheard of stuff"

    Ahahah oh that pun is horrible.

  • Guys. look up Juliun Treasure. He did a lot of Ted Talks on sound

  • TED GET HD!

  • @ogrish84 it's free!

    

  • @KonigKraft That has nothing to do with my point at all. I can find poor vlogers with HD cams. An please don't come back with the fact that professional HD cameras cost a lot. They do actually make money off TED talks. They should have enough money to invest in some new camera equipment by now.

  • @ogrish84 @ogrish84 Money is irrelevant, uploading in HD can take a lot of time - especially when they could have really bad internet speeds which most places do. HD is not a standard now and arguing that it is vital and the only reason it could not be used is if they were to cost a lot is insulting the works created, the people behind these videos and any great content ont he internet whether they use HD cameras or not.

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  • Wow the student is so musical!!!

  • I once got my right ear clogged with earwax and though this caused only very minor hearing loss in one ear, for only a couple days, it was AWFUL. Couldn't imagine loosing my hearing.

  • was looking for 0:15 so i'm sure someone will find that useful

  • I lost hearing in my right ear because of a medical condition. The bones in my ear were dissolved and I had to have a prosthetic bone put in. I can now hear out of my right ear and my left ear is just fine, but it made me realize how much I took stereo hearing fore granted

  • TED should talk about conspiracy,corruption and brainwashing in the government.

  • @GamertagS3CS33 People like you are unbearable.

  • @GamertagS3CS33 Only GOOD TED Talks are posted and your suggestion doesn't seem to lend itself well to a GOOD talk.

  • @Norn13b Who are you too judge ?

  • @GamertagS3CS33 In all governments!!

  • @ranjanchadha YES!

  • @GamertagS3CS33 No they shouldn't, cuz u can never know for sure whats true, you're just deliberately asking for disinfo like this. Some people r fuckin tired of hearing about all kinds of conspiracy crap, cuz u can never know EXACTLY whats true, whats not and if the source isn't deliberate disinfo. Just watch/read all the damn news & sources look around and use your own frickin brain or else it doesn't matter and stop poluting good channels with idiotic suggestions.

  • @Trinivalts I'm asking for their opinions about it. Not for the truth. Thank you for calling me an idiot! Peace to all and goodbye!

  • @GamertagS3CS33 If so then that's even more useless. Well excuse me if I don't want everyone to talk about conspiracies. Sure, some of them r interesting, but TED's not the place, it should be about facts and new ideas, not a bunch of "theories" full of wild guesses. That's not educating anyone. Go to alex jones or w/e.

  • @GamertagS3CS33 Why? Nobody needs TED Talks about bullshit!

  • @MaxSmart80 Thank you for sharing your thoughts , please come again when i'd actually care. PS Thats never ;)

  • @GamertagS3CS33 Sometimes though, musicians and audio engineers need to be reminded about how lucky they are for the fact that they're blessed with a set of organs which make their worlds complete.

    Actually, everyone should be reminded of that, because once it's gone, there's usually no way back.

  • I liked he's speech but I find kind of annoying the fact that he uses Beethoven as an example of what can be achieved, first of all Beethoven wasn't born def so he had plenty time to appreciate and understand the sounds in an orchestra in order for him to write a piece, and after he became def or was on his way he didn't really need the sound. Music is not only about beauty in sound, music is also beauty in math because is perfect and works every time if you know what you're doing even if you'r

  • @JANO66 I think you've missed the point of the entire video. He's done nothing but agree wholeheartedly with what you just wrote and even went into greater depth about the differences between people who were born deaf and those who lost their hearing later in life. Thanks for playing.

  • Wow i really like my ears now!

  • You think that the brain is hard wired for much? Disagree. Language existed far before music symphonies and can actually be linked to evolutionary successes. Music triggers emotions, language communicates information, whether it be dangers or resources.

  • Very good talk

  • KEEP UP the GREAT WORK Dr.Limb !

  • (CONT) ourselves and others. The importance of healthy human function/ development and/or opportunity for free thought will always exceed that of 'perfect' sight/hearing.

  • (CONT) make up for in other ‘beautiful’ areas of life. Helping others overcome, forming wholesome relationships, developing sincerity and understanding, sharing life experiences, etc are all more beautiful to me than are certain experiences of sight and hearing. Beauty is in the eye and the ear of the beholder. BUT if the beholder lacks or looses one or both senses, then they may find that there is a much greater beauty that lies within our minds, derived from our relationships with (CONT)

  • are you people seriously too retarded to adjust your volume? I didn't realise they make computer speakers that only allow a Jet-Engine volume level.

  • Positive thinking, yes, but he places too much of an importance on an objective beauty, as perceived through the senses. It is important to look at beauty as an enlightening/wonderful experience itself rather than as something outside of us that we need to view or hear in order to experience. Yes, the experience of music and art is beautiful, but it needs to be understood these are also material things. What someone lacks in the ability to perceive certain ‘beautiful’ things, they will (CONTIN.)

  • This trumpet was much louder, had a fast rhythm, and was only one instrument. So this does not prove anything. BTW, has this cat been harmed (made (partly) deaf for these instruments?

  • i love this guy. I'm so glad they invited him back!

  • that was so interesting.

  • I`m surprised that Evelyn Glennie didn`t get a mention? type_www.evelyn.co.uk/hearing_­essay.aspx

  • What is interesting is that music, language and religion seem to have been born more or less at the same time, or at least in very close succession. Their connections are quite obvious, as well as their utility.

  • I honestly thought usher sounded better the second time, maybe because it is hella bad anyway.

  • Another great Charlies Limb TED talk

  • i got the impression that his speach wasnt structured very well...

  • Does anyone know what classical song he played at the begging thanks.

  • @xsylvain74x Never minde....

  • @xsylvain74x Never minde....

  • @xsylvain74x

    Beethoven, Symphony 7

    I heard it the first time in a movie called Knowing

    really great classical one :)

  • @Xibons actually, we know for a fact, it's not watch?v=6sdYGpTR0bM

  • brilliant!!

  • Beethoven, Rachmaninoff... and then there's Usher... FUCK THIS SHIT!!

  • @GordonFreeMANness Maybe you don't have to be a pedantic asshole.

  • it was so interesting 

  • Beethoven, Rachmaninoff... and then there's Usher LMAO

  • It's a real shame that the top comments of TED talks have to contain a 00:15 in order to make it too the top spot instead of a comment relevant to the talk itself.

    Hello TED, are you there? Hellooooo?

  • @chocomalk Great comment :)

  • I love the way he uses classical music :)

  • Terrific !

    Have you got one one how the brain stem can actually block out sound.

    Because it can ~ through trauma and such ~ it can actually choose what it blocks out.

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  • @CommentsSurvey That wasn't the sound quality that implant users hear. That was actually a sample of lousy sound quality in comparison to good sound quality to show that implant users cannot tell the difference between the two

  • As a musician with 2 hearing aids I have to say, I wish their were more people like Charles Limb in the world, a great talk.

  • what did he play on the piano?

  • @zabacinjsh Did you even watch the video Oo..?

  • @Storhonta I'm asking about the the music that the guy with the implant played. that was not mentioned... so i don't see how your comment made any sense

  • What's the song at 1:15 ???

  • @dobrinkazandziev94 Beethoven's 7th he said it

  • @psynema yea i paused the video right after i heard it :) , thanks anyway

  • @dobrinkazandziev94 He mentions the name right after it was played... >_>

  • Finally a TED MED/biology talk that deals with evolution, but is something really genuine and inspiring & helpful, rather than trying to throw ignorant subliminal blows towards religion from the platform of evolution

  • @cyberdems Considering the number of undisguised potshots some religious take at evolution, and science in general you should be happy that most of the talks don't blatantly call the religious ignorant buffoons.

  • @randomizer1666 Totally! I don't dispute that one bit, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that statistically, 'atheists' have taken the cake when it comes to dishing out ignorant assertions about the origin of the cosmos, or the function of evolution. Evolution is just a probable hypothesis/explanation to try to solve complexity in the universe. It's done nothing to explain the very source/origin of life. Some people, whether religious or atheist, are simply just prone to that sort of behavior

  • @cyberdems

    No, actually I'm pretty sure the Catholic Church, Mormons, and Kent Hovind have all done more damage to science than any atheist ever did. Evolution doesn't try to explain the source of life. That's abiogenesis. Evolution just explain the diversity of life. That's like knocking the theory of gravity because it doesn't explain why the continents change over time.

  • @cyberdems watch the TED video 'the line between life and non-life' it's relatively recent

  • @cyberdems I would like to point out that the label "atheist" is quite vacuous by it's very nature. How much sense does it make to have a label for someone based on what they DON'T believe in? I don't believe in Santaclaus, yet nobody calls me an A-Santaclausist. Why should my beliefs with respect to supernatural dieties be any different?

  • @Zeuts85 I see you're criticising his use of the word atheist - and I'll agree that he IS using it vacuously. Although I do not think the label is useless. I like the equation of Santa Claus and God :D However, the latter undoubtedly posseses greater social relevance and as such it is far more meaningful and controversial to say "I do not believe in God" than to say the other. Also, see what you implied? you said "Why should my beliefs..." as if atheism were a belief, which it is not.

  • @TheGerogero It was not an implication. Perhaps you didn't read the entirety of the post, but as you say "atheism" is NOT a belief, but people have beliefs with regards to the existence of deities even if they BELIEVE they do not exist at all. I believe this is the explicit objection @Zeuts85 was making.

  • @halfthishalfthat Actually I think it's implied precisely because of the context :P Anyhow, atheism is (being reductional here) merely the absence of belief in God. My reasons for holding the belief there is no God are seperate from my identification as an atheist - I think it is misleading to say atheism can be described as the belief that God does not exist.

  • @TheGerogero You said yourself that it is your belief. Not your knowledge. Why not just admit that you don't know either way instead of having to fit to a label.

  • @Namaste1001 D: no you're misunderstanding me. I haven't said atheism is my belief - I'm claiming that atheism isn't even a belief. I haven't mentioned knowledge at all. In which case, I will profess to not know that God does not exist. And acknowledging that has nothing to do with fitting the label called atheist.

  • @TheGerogero - "My reasons for holding the belief there is no God" Isn't that the definition of Atheism or were you using it as an example?

    A belief that there is no God is still a belief.

  • @Namaste1001 D: no you've what I've said out of context. My definition of atheism is the absence of belief in God - and the absence of belief can't be belief. I was trying to disassociate the term from "belief that there is no God" in which case it would be belief, but that is not what atheism is! 

  • @TheGerogero - Semantics really. It's pointless debating really as whatever belief/non-belief one holds the truth will still be the truth.

  • @Namaste1001 Haha :D it is semantics, but I think it's important to avoid the connotation to faith. But time's up for me, it's far past my bedtime and I'm already sufficiently sleep-deprived in my current state. I enjoyed the conversation. P.S. I do not think such a concept as "the truth" exists.

  • @TheGerogero That is very curious, to think that "the truth" does not exist, but I'm more interested in your semantic interpretation of atheism as "the absence of belief in (a) God" which to you apparently totally =/= "belief in the absence of (a) God"... Atheism (as a belief) is by definition the specific belief in the absence of (a) God. Contrast with Atheism as a concept, which is simply the absence of belief in God, not the absence of belief in general.

  • @halfthishalfthat Cool, you understand my position. Although it's a funny thing if the same term is fundamentally different when simply regarded as either a belief or concept - which is another reason why I think the former is invalid. What annoys me is that I have no term for "I believe there is no God".

  • @TheGerogero But that is the nature of language. Semantically different referents and senses contained within the same word. If you choose to discount atheism as a belief, you lose the ability to use the term to mean "I believe there is no God". However, most ideolects permit both possible readings of the word "atheism" and it is defined by context.

  • @halfthishalfthat Seems to be the impasse between the scientific and (for lack of a better word) the poetic perspective. I must concede, language is of the latter and so I ought not consider the definition as belief to be unacceptable. It may well be a belief for some. I think my opposition is rooted in a perceived necessity to distinguish my skeptical world view from that of faith-based theistic religions - given that "belief" is very close to "faith".

  • @cyberdems To assert that evolution does not tell us the origins of life is a fundamental misunderstanding of evolution. It's like saying the hypothetical explanation of gravity doesn't explain why combustible materials are flammable. Of course it doesn't, it isn't even attempting to do so. If you want to understand how it all started you need to look to cosmological theorems such as the big bang, and for life itself look to abiogenesis. Evolution takes off once a single reproducer exists.

  • @cyberdems And as long as we're on the subject of scientific explanations, let's make something clear here. Evolution is both a theory, and a fact. There is the theory of evolution, the theory that things change over time, and the fact of evolution, observed changes we've seen in the laboratory that only make sense in light of evolutionary theory. Evolution is the a robustly proven theory in all of biology, and most of science. There is more evidence of evolution than there is for gravity.

  • @Xibons

    This video gives ignorance a whole new meaning. I highly suggest that people watch it at least until they see question #1 and identify the obvious flaw with it. Unless you are aware of the heights of ignorance people are capable of climbing that is.

  • @Fuzzy192006 skrillex is the best way to need one of these implants, and the best part is it will still sound the same afterwards.

  • I wouldn't want to live if I couldn't hear music. I can say this in all honesty.

  • Can you imagine some one with a cochlear implant and the first thing they hear is the TED intro music?

    What a bummer...

  • usher sound like shit bolth ways