I do study HIS Word and no one else s. As I said before my best friend had the whole ellen White library and he was raised in SDA schools. I have heard every argument. Jesus was not a vegetarian. And after his death and burial after walking on this earth, he went to heaven to be seated at the right hand of the Father. The bible says do not judge a man as to what day he keeps. Maybe if you all read the WHOLE New Testament. Instead of just the old your eyes might be opened. You cant pick and chose
You made a claim that Ellen White denied Jesus' divinity when she stated Jesus when He was a MAN was not Almighty, but if you had bothered to read the preceeding and following paragraphs, you would have read Mrs. White plainly and clearly stated that
1) our Lord Jesus "did not cease to be God when He became man" (see also John 8:58) and
2) Jesus is "Equal with the Father" (see also John 10:30, Heb 1:3).
@Nirky Yes, She denied the deity of Christ before, but later she corrected it by claiming Jesus is God Jehovah. We shouldn't have any problem with Ellen in that case, since she repent. Instead, we should appriciate her for turning back to the truth. My only problem is SDAs such as Doug Batchelor who don't really know Ellen's writings and claim that they should be equal to the Bible. That's heresy. Ellen would be mad if she was still alive to hear this; on the contrary, she'd be real devil
Either your study habits are grossly careless, or you ignorantly & blindly copy what others write without bothering to read source material, or you did already know she said that Jesus was God even as a man but nevertheless even as a professing, nominal Christian you prefer to use Satan's tools of lies & deceit.
I do not know which it was, but in each case dishonesty is shown, that is why I quoted 2 Thess 2:10. We have to abandon our own preconceived ideas and follow His word where it leads, like Ellen did, which truth leads ALWAYS to Jesus, because He IS truth. John 14:6.
Those who don't--even thought they may profess to love & follow Christ--do not let Christ into their hearts to direct their life, are deceived and will end up losing out on His salvation. This is serious.
So if you desire to continue, an apology for lying to me, to our readers, and to the Lord Jesus in order, it is required. This must happen before any more posting, otherwise anything else written would be in vain, we both have to have the same aim of seeking His truth, no matter how much it may hurt.
I said it before and I will say it again if your prophet had simply ducked and the rock had not have hit her square in the head you all would not have a religion.
Thank you for your opinion, but unfortunately both your claims here have been shown to be false. I would counsel to prayerfully study His word, determining in your heart to follow it, wherever it may lead. Only those who love His truth will be saved:
"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." 2 Thess 2:10
Michael is not the name of the pre-incarnate Son. An Angel is a created being God is the creator. If you are speaking about The Angel of the Lord, he is still no where referred to in the Bible as Michael. If so prove it to me in the Bible not you extra cult works of Ellen White.
Most Christians are amazed to learn that SDA teaches that Jesus is Michael the Archangel, but Ellen G. White said He was Michael, so if they changed this, they'd need to reject her as "the spirit of prophecy" and they'd not be the remnant church! So now they hold He's both God the Son, and Michael. In fact, Ellen G. White DENIED the deity of Jesus, who in 1903 said, “The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty” (ms 140, SDA Commentary V, p. 1129).
"Michael" is one of the many names of the pre-incarnate Son. That the Holy Spirit sometimes refers to God as an "Angel" (which means "messenger") should not surprise anyone who knows the Bible.
As for your claim Ellen denied Jesus' deity in stating the MAN Christ Jesus was not the Almighty, that is equally ignorant:
"But although Christ’s divine glory was for a time veiled and eclipsed by His assuming humanity, yet He did not cease to be God when He became man." 5BC 1129.3
"Christ left His position in the heavenly courts, and came to this earth to live the life of human beings. This sacrifice He made in order to show that Satan’s charge against God is false—that it is possible for man to obey the laws of God’s kingdom." con't
"Equal with the Father, honored and adored by the angels, in our behalf Christ humbled Himself, and came to this earth to live a life of lowliness and poverty—to be a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Yet the stamp of divinity was upon His humanity." 5BC 1129.3
It amazes me that many are unable to count. Sabbath is the 7th day I believe a command of the only true and living God. 1234567 no problem. Keep it up Pastor Bohr and sooner or later many will get the message
The war in Israel is a sign to me of God's wrath. I was shown floods and earthquakes in various places and shall pause for a short time and shall proceed until the lord is ready to cast his wrath onto this earth. It is then people who I have told will believe that God is truly lord, God the Creator and Jesus is the Son of God. those shall repent for I have seen another vision that the lord will cast storms and earthquakes. God is lining up the plates to shake up all the earth.
So very true. I am new to Christianity and God has guided me to the seventh day adventist. For years I was a blasphemer to God and blamed him for the out come of my life. one day during 2007 I blasphemed God and an angel came to me; it was a person shaped figure but only for it was without a face and all this light emitting from the angel and all around the angel and showed me a war and the angel said to me this is yet to come a war like no other war here in the land of the chosen people.
I do study HIS Word and no one else s. As I said before my best friend had the whole ellen White library and he was raised in SDA schools. I have heard every argument. Jesus was not a vegetarian. And after his death and burial after walking on this earth, he went to heaven to be seated at the right hand of the Father. The bible says do not judge a man as to what day he keeps. Maybe if you all read the WHOLE New Testament. Instead of just the old your eyes might be opened. You cant pick and chose
swingman8seconds 2 months ago
@swingman8seconds
This is why I question your "studying":
You made a claim that Ellen White denied Jesus' divinity when she stated Jesus when He was a MAN was not Almighty, but if you had bothered to read the preceeding and following paragraphs, you would have read Mrs. White plainly and clearly stated that
1) our Lord Jesus "did not cease to be God when He became man" (see also John 8:58) and
2) Jesus is "Equal with the Father" (see also John 10:30, Heb 1:3).
Nirky 2 months ago 5
@Nirky Yes, She denied the deity of Christ before, but later she corrected it by claiming Jesus is God Jehovah. We shouldn't have any problem with Ellen in that case, since she repent. Instead, we should appriciate her for turning back to the truth. My only problem is SDAs such as Doug Batchelor who don't really know Ellen's writings and claim that they should be equal to the Bible. That's heresy. Ellen would be mad if she was still alive to hear this; on the contrary, she'd be real devil
belojo2003 1 month ago
@belojo2003
I think you have more than one problem. ;) For starters, claims without documentation = lying. So provide it now.
Nirky 1 month ago
@swingman8seconds
Either your study habits are grossly careless, or you ignorantly & blindly copy what others write without bothering to read source material, or you did already know she said that Jesus was God even as a man but nevertheless even as a professing, nominal Christian you prefer to use Satan's tools of lies & deceit.
Nirky 2 months ago 2
@swingman8seconds
I do not know which it was, but in each case dishonesty is shown, that is why I quoted 2 Thess 2:10. We have to abandon our own preconceived ideas and follow His word where it leads, like Ellen did, which truth leads ALWAYS to Jesus, because He IS truth. John 14:6.
Those who don't--even thought they may profess to love & follow Christ--do not let Christ into their hearts to direct their life, are deceived and will end up losing out on His salvation. This is serious.
Nirky 2 months ago 2
@swingman8seconds
So if you desire to continue, an apology for lying to me, to our readers, and to the Lord Jesus in order, it is required. This must happen before any more posting, otherwise anything else written would be in vain, we both have to have the same aim of seeking His truth, no matter how much it may hurt.
God bless, I hope we can continue.
Nirky 2 months ago 4
I said it before and I will say it again if your prophet had simply ducked and the rock had not have hit her square in the head you all would not have a religion.
swingman8seconds 2 months ago
@swingman8seconds
Thank you for your opinion, but unfortunately both your claims here have been shown to be false. I would counsel to prayerfully study His word, determining in your heart to follow it, wherever it may lead. Only those who love His truth will be saved:
"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." 2 Thess 2:10
God bless you to walk with Jesus.
Nirky 2 months ago 3
Michael is not the name of the pre-incarnate Son. An Angel is a created being God is the creator. If you are speaking about The Angel of the Lord, he is still no where referred to in the Bible as Michael. If so prove it to me in the Bible not you extra cult works of Ellen White.
swingman8seconds 2 months ago
The sabbath of my God is not the first day sabbath of Rome
emilee2u 2 months ago
Most Christians are amazed to learn that SDA teaches that Jesus is Michael the Archangel, but Ellen G. White said He was Michael, so if they changed this, they'd need to reject her as "the spirit of prophecy" and they'd not be the remnant church! So now they hold He's both God the Son, and Michael. In fact, Ellen G. White DENIED the deity of Jesus, who in 1903 said, “The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty” (ms 140, SDA Commentary V, p. 1129).
swingman8seconds 2 months ago
@swingman8seconds
"Michael" is one of the many names of the pre-incarnate Son. That the Holy Spirit sometimes refers to God as an "Angel" (which means "messenger") should not surprise anyone who knows the Bible.
As for your claim Ellen denied Jesus' deity in stating the MAN Christ Jesus was not the Almighty, that is equally ignorant:
"But although Christ’s divine glory was for a time veiled and eclipsed by His assuming humanity, yet He did not cease to be God when He became man." 5BC 1129.3
Nirky 2 months ago 3
@swingman8seconds
"Christ left His position in the heavenly courts, and came to this earth to live the life of human beings. This sacrifice He made in order to show that Satan’s charge against God is false—that it is possible for man to obey the laws of God’s kingdom." con't
Nirky 2 months ago 3
@swingman8seconds
"Equal with the Father, honored and adored by the angels, in our behalf Christ humbled Himself, and came to this earth to live a life of lowliness and poverty—to be a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Yet the stamp of divinity was upon His humanity." 5BC 1129.3
Nirky 2 months ago 5
It amazes me that many are unable to count. Sabbath is the 7th day I believe a command of the only true and living God. 1234567 no problem. Keep it up Pastor Bohr and sooner or later many will get the message
emilee2u 3 months ago
@emilee2u
Amen to that, grace and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Nirky 2 months ago
WOW
KnoxKnowsBest 11 months ago
The war in Israel is a sign to me of God's wrath. I was shown floods and earthquakes in various places and shall pause for a short time and shall proceed until the lord is ready to cast his wrath onto this earth. It is then people who I have told will believe that God is truly lord, God the Creator and Jesus is the Son of God. those shall repent for I have seen another vision that the lord will cast storms and earthquakes. God is lining up the plates to shake up all the earth.
prophecyt 2 years ago
So very true. I am new to Christianity and God has guided me to the seventh day adventist. For years I was a blasphemer to God and blamed him for the out come of my life. one day during 2007 I blasphemed God and an angel came to me; it was a person shaped figure but only for it was without a face and all this light emitting from the angel and all around the angel and showed me a war and the angel said to me this is yet to come a war like no other war here in the land of the chosen people.
prophecyt 2 years ago
great!......
japh1925 2 years ago 2