This was one of THE greatest series of programs ever produced on American TV. Yeah, the host Gilbert Seldes might seem like an anachronism sometimes, but remember--he was one of the first "eggheads" to take jazz seriously and give it the respect it deserves. Check out his great book The Seven Lively Arts--originally published back in the twenties, and still in print, which also includes articles on E.E. Cummings and "Krazy Kat" cartoon creator, George Herriman. He was one hip daddy-o!
Oh snap! Look at Warne's jaw go!!! It has a life of its own...lol! Love both of these guys' sound. They blend so well. I am guessing Mark Turner got a lot of his influence from these guys...
That's interesting....I just saw Lee in a clinic at my school tonight, and someone asked him what he thought of the whole "Cool Jazz" label, and he responded with the same answer of "Well, I thought Lee Armstrong and some of the 'hot' guys played cool too." I don't know how old he is here, but he's 82 years old now!
I Know undertand the name of Lee Konitz's song " Ice Cream Konitz" after hearing the moderator pronouce his name. some of his songs are harder than Chopin.Try playing up to tempo on a Hammond organ ,playing bass,chords and melody!
IMO. The Tristano *concept* didn't place the rhythm section in the shadows. It simply required a new sensitivity that wasn't to be found in the bombs of drummers apart of another conception. As we know there is great flexibility to form a *group* sound. If you place Tony Williams with Errol Garner, you might not be pleased with what you get, but Miles sure needed that agressiveness in the 2nd quintet. Oscar peterson style would be a drag as a sub for McCoy.
Actually Konitz and Tristano are from Chicago where their relationship and the "tristano sound" began. Marsh is from LA but eventually moved to Chicago then NY. Never understood why this was called "west coast"
Wrong. Lee Konitz is from The East Coast as is Warne Marsh and the rest of his crew. The Two Horn Players were VERY influenced by thier Mentor Lennie Tristano, another New Yorker. Again you have the misconception that West Coast is "Soul Less" Ever hear of Hampton Hawes, Art Pepper, Eric Dolphy? California Born and Very West Coast? The Mastersounds were based on the West Coast starting in Seattle after they left Indianapolis.Check Out Getz, Mulligan,Baker,Chico Hamilton,Tjader the list goes on.
while i agree with you about the misconceptions of west coast players (btw you forgot to mention art farmer, harold land, DEXTER GORDON, wardell gray) you are wrong about lee and lennie's origins. they are both from chicago. lee began studying with lennie in chicago when he was in his mid-teens. he was one of lennie's first students. he moved to nyc years later. read hamilton's book on lee that came out last year. it's amazing. btw in the book it says bird is one of lee main influences!
Hey Thanks, as I was mistaken on Geography, I only had so much space or I would have added the guys you mentioned and would also add from Northern California S.F. area Vince Guaraldi,Eddie Duran, Sothern California L.A. Buddy Collette, Joe Gordon, Red Mitchell, Chuck Thompson and Paul Moer, Russ Freeman to name a couple more. Adopted Sons like Shelly Manne, Larry Bunker and Shorty Rogers, Richie Kamuca and the Candoli Bros. Come To mind as do Stan Levey. Good Call Man!! You show Good Taste!
i will never quite understand that reaction. but than, how do you define emotion (in music)? their jazz is less hot maybe, or dramatic, than many other, but it stirs up my feelings no less than, say, albert ayler's (but then some find HIS just noise...)
Agreed..it's like a roller coaster...at double speed & full of unexpected tight turns & twists...it feels like the first time every time I hear it....go Lennie & band...
I remember hearing Warne Marsh for the first time in the 70's - he just blew me away. I was listening to Lester Young, Hawkins, Cannonball, Coltrane, Rollins, Phil Woods, Ornette, Anthony Braxton, but I'd never heard anyone like THAT before...
You got those chords right. There's also a very cool version of this by gypsy jazz guitarists (and brothers) Boulou and Elios Ferré, who also do Lennie Tristano songs!
@guitaress1 I was just going to say that! It's definitely a contrafact of that tune. For some reason I never picked up on that on Lennie Tristano's original recording... something about the rhythm section here makes that much more apparent. Marvelous!
If there was more television like this, I'd consider switching mine on occasionally.
ImaniHekima 2 months ago
I love Lee! I Love this Namber ! Tnx !
gotta2 7 months ago
This was one of THE greatest series of programs ever produced on American TV. Yeah, the host Gilbert Seldes might seem like an anachronism sometimes, but remember--he was one of the first "eggheads" to take jazz seriously and give it the respect it deserves. Check out his great book The Seven Lively Arts--originally published back in the twenties, and still in print, which also includes articles on E.E. Cummings and "Krazy Kat" cartoon creator, George Herriman. He was one hip daddy-o!
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Dfrankjazz 1 year ago
lee is bad to the bone
aaronamccoy 1 year ago
Wow, very rare video of the great Warne Marsh, and some marvelous Konitz too. Just wonderful stuff. Thank you!!
bluv6 1 year ago
These sound like the same changes to "What is this Thing Called Love" . Is it?
1979saxman 1 year ago
@1979saxman
yep
electioneer1313 1 year ago
JVG rox....
kevinherbert 1 year ago
Yeah they're the same changes as 'What Is This Thing Called Love' and 'Hot House'. Wicked tunes.
whatsyourstory1 1 year ago 3
@whatsyourstory1 Right, you are!
ogulkoker 1 year ago
Oh snap! Look at Warne's jaw go!!! It has a life of its own...lol! Love both of these guys' sound. They blend so well. I am guessing Mark Turner got a lot of his influence from these guys...
AleGorymusic 2 years ago
Thank you so much. The music is of course amazing, then in the interview, Mr. Konitz is effortlessly hilarious.
kurt52073 2 years ago 2
what is this thing called love
raittis 2 years ago
That's interesting....I just saw Lee in a clinic at my school tonight, and someone asked him what he thought of the whole "Cool Jazz" label, and he responded with the same answer of "Well, I thought Lee Armstrong and some of the 'hot' guys played cool too." I don't know how old he is here, but he's 82 years old now!
taylorbelote 2 years ago
@taylorbelote I guess you mean Louis Armstrong?...
AleGorymusic 2 years ago
Haha, yes, of course! Oops...I didn't know I typed that.
taylorbelote 2 years ago
I Know undertand the name of Lee Konitz's song " Ice Cream Konitz" after hearing the moderator pronouce his name. some of his songs are harder than Chopin.Try playing up to tempo on a Hammond organ ,playing bass,chords and melody!
dennerlien 2 years ago
A real challenge to play Lee Konitz"s songs on a Hammond Organ!
Bob,Laguna Woods, cal.
dennerlien 2 years ago
Why was the rhythm section in the shadows?
futboler454 2 years ago
IMO. The Tristano *concept* didn't place the rhythm section in the shadows. It simply required a new sensitivity that wasn't to be found in the bombs of drummers apart of another conception. As we know there is great flexibility to form a *group* sound. If you place Tony Williams with Errol Garner, you might not be pleased with what you get, but Miles sure needed that agressiveness in the 2nd quintet. Oscar peterson style would be a drag as a sub for McCoy.
rubberbandsax 2 years ago
Cool. I play on a Charles Bay custom made mouthpiece made for Lee Konitz. Its a long story of how I got it...
senorsexyomg 2 years ago
You should tell us this story! :)
ogulkoker 2 years ago
Someone should take these videos and cut all the geezer patter out of them.
tremblate 3 years ago
From a sociological viewpoint, it's very informative....gr8 post...thanx
kevinherbert 3 years ago 6
Actually Konitz and Tristano are from Chicago where their relationship and the "tristano sound" began. Marsh is from LA but eventually moved to Chicago then NY. Never understood why this was called "west coast"
ilikeike87 3 years ago
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Very west coast. Not much emotion but I guess that's the point. Take out the hotness of jazz.
saxoclar 3 years ago
Wrong. Lee Konitz is from The East Coast as is Warne Marsh and the rest of his crew. The Two Horn Players were VERY influenced by thier Mentor Lennie Tristano, another New Yorker. Again you have the misconception that West Coast is "Soul Less" Ever hear of Hampton Hawes, Art Pepper, Eric Dolphy? California Born and Very West Coast? The Mastersounds were based on the West Coast starting in Seattle after they left Indianapolis.Check Out Getz, Mulligan,Baker,Chico Hamilton,Tjader the list goes on.
petepoulos 3 years ago
while i agree with you about the misconceptions of west coast players (btw you forgot to mention art farmer, harold land, DEXTER GORDON, wardell gray) you are wrong about lee and lennie's origins. they are both from chicago. lee began studying with lennie in chicago when he was in his mid-teens. he was one of lennie's first students. he moved to nyc years later. read hamilton's book on lee that came out last year. it's amazing. btw in the book it says bird is one of lee main influences!
kdfan 3 years ago
Hey Thanks, as I was mistaken on Geography, I only had so much space or I would have added the guys you mentioned and would also add from Northern California S.F. area Vince Guaraldi,Eddie Duran, Sothern California L.A. Buddy Collette, Joe Gordon, Red Mitchell, Chuck Thompson and Paul Moer, Russ Freeman to name a couple more. Adopted Sons like Shelly Manne, Larry Bunker and Shorty Rogers, Richie Kamuca and the Candoli Bros. Come To mind as do Stan Levey. Good Call Man!! You show Good Taste!
petepoulos 3 years ago
i will never quite understand that reaction. but than, how do you define emotion (in music)? their jazz is less hot maybe, or dramatic, than many other, but it stirs up my feelings no less than, say, albert ayler's (but then some find HIS just noise...)
bertdockx 3 years ago 5
Agreed..it's like a roller coaster...at double speed & full of unexpected tight turns & twists...it feels like the first time every time I hear it....go Lennie & band...
kevinherbert 2 years ago
I remember hearing Warne Marsh for the first time in the 70's - he just blew me away. I was listening to Lester Young, Hawkins, Cannonball, Coltrane, Rollins, Phil Woods, Ornette, Anthony Braxton, but I'd never heard anyone like THAT before...
burdinus 3 years ago
Haha, awesome. I've never noticed how Warne "chews" on his mouthpiece before. Two masters of melodic development and improvisation right there.
refsdal 3 years ago
Warne Marsha is really a master. Did you hear him in SuperSax? His non-brother Arno Marsh is one of the most under-rated sax players in jazz history.
pnebenzahl 3 years ago
Lee has awsome tone..
bradleyt1 3 years ago
Nice post..great to see the legend that is Lee Konitz
kevinherbert 3 years ago
Konitz is the coolest!
meesterbenja 3 years ago
Sounds like 'what is this thing called love'
very cool man
guitaress1 3 years ago
You got those chords right. There's also a very cool version of this by gypsy jazz guitarists (and brothers) Boulou and Elios Ferré, who also do Lennie Tristano songs!
Great version; thanks for uploading!
swingbossa 3 years ago
@guitaress1 I was just going to say that! It's definitely a contrafact of that tune. For some reason I never picked up on that on Lennie Tristano's original recording... something about the rhythm section here makes that much more apparent. Marvelous!
fiddlercrab3 1 year ago
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whatsyourstory1 1 year ago
This is the year I joined the Marine Corp. Lee Konitz played at a spot in LA believe it was Shelly Mannhole. So,so sweet.
lairdlord 3 years ago
Cool, thanks JazzVideoGuy!
kevinm4435 3 years ago