Donahue (part 2 of 5) - River Phoenix, Lisa Bonet, Raul Julia, John Robbins

[DChaplow]

Do they know cheeseburgers dont come from the rainforest?

[MsJCBurke]

River Phoenix was worried about estrogen in the chicken and "The Pill" being poison - and he died 3 years later of heart failure caused by drugs. What happened to him in 3 years?

[MsJCBurke]

Wow - unless that "new era" is creeping in way slower than Raul Julia thought, what happened??

[simbolmynded]

What a beautiful shirt River!

[catspear]

River looked so hurt at 9.02 :( i want to hug him!

[sa1973river1970]

I think what River was wearing was just fine. He shouldn't be penalized just because he looked oh-so superb in it.

[alessigiancarla]

Thank you so much to uploding these videos, I miss River a lot!

[arealOpia1991]

does he say take your bra to your grandmother at the end?? .... if so that's brilliant .... i'm not even gona get started on the appearance thing ... its an ugly thing that still dominates occupational provision and is one of the most sickest things in the world...... okay gona stop now cos this matter makes me seriously apeshit angry !!!

[luitaurus]

please can someone tell me what did River said at the end of the video? ... i couldnt hear it

[DamnedDarling]

Sorry, my english is not googd enough...what did the women on the phone said to river ? Please tell me. Thanks

[RoseWhiteRoseRed]

@DamnedDarling She was saying that because of River and Lisa's appearance it was hard to take them seriously.

Such ignorance. People like that are not going to hear you no matter what you say or what you look like because they don't wanna' hear anything about compassion because they can't even get passed the surface. P.e.t.a. as much as I hate them and disagree glamorized animal activism for a mainstream population, but that STILL didn't work so it goes to show some people won't hear you.

[DamnedDarling]

@RoseWhiteRoseRed

Thank you. Now I know what she said. 

[RoseWhiteRoseRed]

@DamnedDarling No problem :)

[mychemman915]

@sahbisun it can be judgmental you just stated something without support. I'm not saying you are a thug but I dont think people should say stuff without real support. My sibling deals with judgement everyday because he is autistic so I in return try not to judge with support and I know river was not autistic but judging is judging no matter what.

[whotaughtyou]

BULLSHIT O07 PAID WOMEN TO VHO BAGHDAD

[nicolewynne1212]

haha river said yeno so many times in this haha luv u river r.i.p <3<3

[Sahbisun]

Don't eat meat, but overdose on drugs, take care of the planet, but not your body?

[AndItShallComeToPass]

@Sahbisun I believe River Phoenix, Jimmy Hendrix and Amy Winehouse were purposely given bad drugs to kill them. River's family was a part of a weird cult called Children of God. The leader of this cult molested many of the kids. I think River may have been a victim of MK Ultra. He and his siblings were pimped out by his parents, and I suspect River had mental problems and Joaquin too.

[mychemman915]

@AndItShallComeToPass I don't think we should assume these things. Yes, River and his siblings were the breadwinners of his family but I have seen MANY videos and read MANY interviews and many friends of the family have stated that even though River was paying for his families financially they were there for him as much they could be emotionally. Maybe it did take a toll on him but we can't assume that, and I also think he may have a emotional disorder but we can't judge that.

[mychemman915]

@Sahbisun like I said to @AndItShallComeToPass we can't judge him and his family. He had a lot of problems that no one knew about except for his inner circle which DID NOT include his own family members. I'm sure all of us have done things we regret and people think is wrong but they don't say it to our faces so we say it on the internet?

[Sahbisun]

@mychemman915

I'm not judging the guy. I find it interesting the human mind can neglect what most important (self) while having more concern with what's going outside of self. Chill out...oh, im no cyber thug. If you were standing infront of me I would ask you to "Chill out". Then I'd probably laugh at you for being so hyped over a video comment. If you fall apart over something so basic...you're probably gonna overdose next. Get it together before its too late.

[marilynjeaux]

@Sahbisun

You're right that is ironic, but you have to understand he had his vices too. It doesn't change the message. Just like the woman makes the comment about she can't take them seriously because of their appearance. It doesn't matter if he did drugs. He's discussing something for the sake of other people yet you judge him. None of us are perfect. I wish people would understand that.

[Capgungoesbang]

He is completely right, HUNGER IS NO EXCEPTION. There are thousands of rooms back stage of a concert, tv show, radio show, etc., filled to the ceiling with food and drinks and half of that supply doesn't even get eaten, probably thrown out. It's like really? we can't share that with people who are REALLY fucking starving across the world? People that REALLY need it? Celebrities don't fucking care, they get so much and do not give whatsoever. They think practicing dance routines is enough.

[MrBlackarchitect]

what a croc . Phoenix, OD on a coctail of drugs and Bonet is a loser nut job with no future in site. The worst part is her daughter Zoe is as big a loser as her mother

[Redrumhydro]

@MrBlackarchitect whats your problem bitch?

[Black777Power]

@MrBlackarchitect You Aint Nothing But A Typical Hater Ass Nigga Shut Up I Hate Niggas Like You...You Fucking Crab.

[xpapercliche]

If you want to end hunger, legalize hemp! Best protien source on earth; complete amino and high concentrations omegas

[Aniastasia]

''TAKE YOUR BRA TO YOUR GRANDMOTHER!''

[027220]

8:58 YIKES!

[BobbyEnergy]

the mother might have had her baby crave the chicken (protien) for that the mother might not have been consuming enouff vegatarian protien ..if the mother was trying that...or else the call could been contrived?

[PhillyLucky7]

Is River high ? 

[zigfried64]

Hey, Raul. I've got news for you. Ronald Reagan predicted the end of communism. Then he became President and went about ENDING it. Reagan has had more impact on this planet then your "Robbins" dude.

What drugs do you think Phoenix was on the morning he did this show? He looks completely wasted and is barely able to complete a sentence. ANd he keeps rubbing his eyes. And his SHIRT! He had to be high to pick that shirt out of his closet and say "Yeah, I'll wear this."

[TruthSpeaker1010]

too bad these Hollywood celebutards didn't educate Lisa how dangerous it is to feed a child soy and how awful soy is for women in general. LISTEN TO THE FOREMOTHERS and what THEY have been doing for thousands of years, not celebutards. if Lisa's eating habits were so wonderful for her maybe she wouldn't have created an imbalance in her brain that ended up addicting her to heroin.

[annie8377]

that caller was SUCH A BITCH!

[georgemyno1]

lol Did he tell you haha

[Fodderingham]

Go vegan!

[ChocolateTasteGo0d]

wow that lady was a twat. Lisa and River looked pissed

[Gizelle001]

Look at the scared public audience - they don't loomas though they want to know that eating meat is bad for the earth..

[Blahoblu]

presentable apperance? HAH! River could have sat there in a chicken suit and would still look great.

[WCWite]

Donahue was a GOD of talk shows, everyone copied him but could never replace him.

[KennedyCorey]

Yeah River seems lie such a bright kid here....so WTF was he doing with 6 different drugs in his system when he OD......it's one thing to preach what to do....quite another to actually live it......to bad this guy couldn't hang around longer.

[babyfacedstar]

@KennedyCorey

Is that all you think of when you see River? You really need to get passed that and move onto the good things he did, rather than that one night.

[KennedyCorey]

@babyfacedstar Sadly that's how everybody will remember him. My point is that he's making great points on the show about cleaning up the enviroment and how terrible toxins are, (which is true) but then polutes his own body with a bunch of shit! Whether your his biggest fan or not that makes him a hypocrite. He was in a real position to influence younger people but he fucked it up. Now when people hear his name they dont think about this interview, they think about how he died. Total waste.

[Phelonetv]

@KennedyCorey

You are speaking for everyone. And that makes you wrong. Because here I am telling you that NO that is NOT all I think about when I think of River Phoenix. What I think about when I think of River Phoenix is a beautiful spirit that cared too much. Much more than you could possibly ever understand. Yeah he was HUMAN, we ALL make mistakes. He cared about this world and people, however he made the mistake of getting caught in something to numb his own pain from the sad reality.

[Phelonetv]

@KennedyCorey

And I can also tell you that he was NOT a total waste. Because of him I will strive to make as much money as possible so I can put in my part for this world. Because of him I've been inspired to fight the fight as much as I possibly can. I am a singer/songwriter and I fucking guarantee you that his existence was NOT a waste. His soul and his character moves me in a way that no one ever really has.Because he is JUST like me.So I understand him fully,entirely,inside out.Completely.

[Phelonetv]

@KennedyCorey

And for the fucking record. Yeah you can see it as hypocracy (and I can understand why) however an addiction is much more than that. It's something you have no control over unless YOU want to change and there is proper intervention. I've known the feeling of wanting to be numb in a world where the majority of people are ignorant and cruel. I've known the feeling of hating the world because of the burdens it has put on me on a personal level and to the environment.

[Phelonetv]

@KennedyCorey

But I've stayed strong. I haven't turned to drugs to take it away. There have been times I've felt like being dead. But I've never tried to end it. Just felt it. There have been many times I've wanted to numb the world's ignorance from my mind. But I haven't. And if anything River's story is not a "waste" it is eye opening. He hoped for something.......I want to prove that , that hope was not in vein. Just like many others who care about this world.

[babyfacedstar]

@KennedyCorey Okay, that is how you feel. But to me, He did change my life. He is an inspiration to me. I don't think of his bad moments, I take in all the good he did. He taught me to stay away from drugs. He taught me to love the planet even more. He influenced me, so I'm happy with that in my life.

I guess everybody has there own opinion on who is a hypocrite or not.

[pookiewook]

that caller was a fucking bitch. outside appearance has absolutely nothing to do with what is in your heart, or anything to do with one's intelligence. omfg, i hate people like that. and besides, both lisa and river are gorgeous there and i love, love, love what they're wearing <3

[pookiewook]

aww river was soooo cute <3 :D he was an amazing person. i really wish i had the willpower to go vegan :( going vegetarian was easy, but vegan...too hard.

[AnotherCompartment]

John robbins is a NWO schill. A handler. These three were taken in by him. Some good ideas. But the overall message has nothing to do with helping anyone. If you want to help, talk about the CIA creating terrorist groups that kill farmers in the fields preventing them from growing their own food. Or Mansanto destroying indian crops.

[lu770]

host is a douche bag

[KennedyCorey]

@lu770 That host is Phil Donahue....this guy was the premier day time talk show host forever...people like Oprah, Barbara Walters Katie Couric and all the big name journalists now idolize this guy. Dude was a legend in that field.

[PieceofMindmusic]

4:33 she's like "you go girl."

Lisa was/is a very smart woman, she uses her head and thinks for herself and that is a valuable, for lack of a better term, 'trait' to have in this society of poor sheep and greedy sheperds

[Aggrevaine]

2 out of 3 of these actors are dead. All of them have been off the air for some time. Probably nothing to think about.

[BlackVoicesOnFilm]

It is ironic how some millionaires dress like derelects and some poverty stricken people try to dress like they're rich.

[11jansza]

haha loved riv's face at the end

[elizabethfaraone]

The caller was extremely ignorant and I'm sure she was not nearly as beautiful as Lisa Bonet and River Pheonix - very rare beauties indeed. The callers heart was very, very ugly. RIP, River, and stay where you are because this world is too ugly for you.

[Theblizzardking]

LOL! Right when the lady says presentable apperance, River's staring upward with his mouth open like a baby!

[EdTV20]

Lisa and River were friends. I wish that they would have dated

[elizabeth1977]

i really like this interview

[babyfacedstar]

7:14

"But there IS hope!"

"We believe you River, we believe you!"

Awww, I found that so cute and funny!

God, I love Riv.

[jesslivinglife]

@babyfacedstar Me too, me too :')

[PieceofMindmusic]

the lady at 3:15 -

"mmmmmm...Brocoliiii...." *licks lips*

[EdTV20]

That rude ass caller at the end need ha ass whupped WTF is wrong wit what they have on?!

[PinkBebe123]

she has ben

they look better together

[jb142653]

Ok, but Lisa u could've combed your hair.

[gudpointer67fye]

That last caller was retarded. You mean 2 tell me that though I have awesome points, because I'm wearing some baggy shorts, a tank top, ur average 90's t-shirt, and some chucks, ur not going 2 take me seriously?!?! Obviously she cares more about attire than her own life! But when she is underground with the bugs, will she think attire will matter then? By the way, 4 the record, I am not a vegetarian, however, I can see where all three are coming from.

[MissBrice]

Rauuuul <3

[PieceofMindmusic]

@MissBrice : - {D

[gombis666]

Too bad they didn't talk about drug overdose.

[LovelyPennyLane]

You tell them River xoxoxo I love the end when River said Take your bra to your grandmother." lol

[AbbeyDawn135]

I PITY the last caller! Obviosly this caller had absolutley no intellegiance once so ever. Those people were there because they wanted to make a difference in the world! Who cares about apparence! That doesn't show how much you care or do not care about our environment!! No sir! River looked absolutley astounded and offended. And I think that, honestly, anyone would have! These people care and if that person was too stupid to realize it then i feel truly sorry.

[augart89]

"Take your bra to your grandmother..." That caller´s opinion was pointless. Is not a matter of how you dress... Is what you are as a person and what you stand for. I´m in law school and I always wear jeans and converse just like River here! Besides, I have longish hair and some people even think I´m a bum...! (it´s wonderful to see River and Raul in the same video...)

[showergel1]

do you know why did lenny and lisa brake up?

[ofbestfit]

I concur, why do we have people like desconocidos who have nothing better to do than troll videos because they have no artistic merits to offer , like heath and Elliott Smith River was the best and no one will be better than him.

[sylicone221]

river is why i started drugs hehehehe! loser ass junkie! rot in hell u piece of shit! heheheeee....

[desconocidos27]

lisa is so full of shit.........

[desconocidos27]

lisa look like a crack hoe

[supertramp26]

River was such an amazing person and he really cared about the environment.Why aren't today's young actors like that.Instead we have fucked up actors and actress like Zach Effron,Robert Pattison,Miley Cyrus,Venessa Hudgens and Selena Gomez.If they are the future of Hollywood,God help the industry.

[Rio9110]

нифига не понимаю,но это не мешает мне любоваться Ривером :)

[EdTV20]

I don't believe that it is right to just talk about vile about someone who is no longer here. River made a mistake that night when he died but i remember him for his talent and his compassion.

[ohsuckitup2]

River was VERY wise beyond his years, and I wish he was still here to share his wisdom with us, he has inspired me like you wouldn't believe.

Bless him.

<3

[frackle123]

While I agree, there's some inherent disillusion when it comes from a guy who overdosed on drugs.

Him preaching about polluted food sources when he willingly polluted himself with hardcore drugs seems condescending at best....and I was genuinely a fan as a child.

[ElizaMogha]

I dont see why you're getting thumbs down for expressing your opinion without being insulting, but anyways.

I disagree on your second paragraph: he could be self-distructive if he wished to/couldn't control it, but still believe that any of these is wrong. Like a smoker can smoke but still acknowledge it's harmful isnt it?

[violetbernice]

@ohsuckitup2 me too - hugely so

[myrtle164]

@ohsuckitup2 I'm sorry he's gone, but if River was VERY wise he wouldn't have been doing the drugs that killed him.

[ohsuckitup2]

@myrtle164

He needed help, and nobody got him the right help in time.

[ohhrichie]

River reminds me of Leo now

[Jackson17mg]

Lisa bonet...got nice lips

[frackle123]

I agree, but I've always found her eyes to be her best trait.

I had the biggest crush on her during her Cosby show days. I was so young and I would just marvel at how beautiful I found her to be.

[lifeiswhatyoumakeitt]

i can watch River talk on for hours and hours. What an amazing person. Typically, political views and views on society come in later in your 30's, but his entire life was based on helping animals, people, and the enviroment.

RIP RIVER <3 always will be remembered.

[codenamemoron]

All the respect to Raul, but he was dreaming. That shift sure as hell never came. Human nature dictates it never will, either.

[DreadfulSolemnity]

Mon Santo is a whore of a company.

[tkanenigga]

Wow...and to think, Oprah got taken to court by the Beef industry for saying far less in 1996. What a commentary on how much freedom of speech/press we lost in a matter of 6 short years. This kind of thing would never fly now...at least not on daytime TV.

[Rose0Angel0Love]

What was the last thing River said here? Something about a grandmother? Anyone understand what he said?

[RiosMyAngel7093]

"Take your bra to your grandmother."

I asked the same thing when I first saw this :)

[Rose0Angel0Love]

Hahaha, OMG, he said that? Wow, thats kind of funny.

Thank you =]

[Goryach1]

мда

[mrsvoltaire]

Zoey is an actress now.

[banan4lajf]

the woman who called in last

was a reall fuck-up

who cares what they were wearing?

o: gr stupid.

River is

one of the greatest

human being of our time

i think.

[katie9879]

I couldn't agree with you more.

River was amazing, he did great things, and the fact that he could be judged for his appearance is disgusting. The fact that there are people out there who stand between making a difference, and doing nothing, just because of the appearance of the people who are advocates for doing such things. It is a shame that River died, before he saw a real difference being made.

[banan4lajf]

yes, you're so right i think that he felt that he was responsible for the earth, or something, just like Samantha Mathis said; 'he had so much compassion for everyone & everything. he had a weight on his heart' i also love the fact that he used his celebrety to try to make a differnce, and i also think it's so sad that nobody really ever took him too seriously cuz of the fact that he was 'too young' but i think that if he lived longer he would do really great & meaningful things.

[banan4lajf]

oh man,

fuckkkkk off.

who cares what you have to say?

[RachellovesJaybee]

That caller was rude.. who cares what their wearing, you're supposed to be listening to what their saying

[dena81]

19 almost 20 years later, we've only ruined the Earth even more.

[teleboy500]

What strikes me watching this is how few shows like this - intelligent debate - are on now, speaking as a UK citizen. Its like the media is eroding the energy of thought via the promotion of trashy nonsense and all this so called 'reality' B.S. Shows like this should be on all the time.

[honeegrrl]

RIP River Phoenix. He was such a brilliant actor.

[riverjudephoenix1993]

river what an amazing guy!

an incredible actor as well!!!

[layonoo7]

Yes,

River`s ideas are still actual today !

He was a beautiful human person I believe,

and such a brilliant actor!!

[elizabeth1977]

why should she be scared, none of us kids were vaccinated and we are all fine!

[georgettabee]

I like River's shirt and Lisa presents herself very well. I was most intrigued when River started speaking in the beginning. He had such passion and the thought of a young person with such knowledge on the issue. There's nothing really cliche about what he has to say, either. I don't agree with the caller and I think the comment both infuriated and hurt River. You can see how he was affected by things..

[mzslim05]

lisa bonet soooo beautiful!

[cait72590]

I wonder how Zoey is doing today. It would be interesting to see what difference the diet and not having vaccinations has made in her life. Lol she'd be my age.

[camilarosas]

Raul Julia's the only one clearly not on drugs of those three. Lisa Bonet was smokin the ganj and lord know what River was shooting or snorting at the time.

[Janeyyy94]

What does River say at 9:19?

something grandmother?

That lady was harsh, why should they waste money and the earths resources on buying smart clothes that theyre only going to wear once! poor River he looked furious.

And may sound hypocritical but I agree, we evolved from apes, mokeys dont need meat to survive why should we.

Miss you River xx

[ifbei]

"take your bra to your grandmother"

the bra, like a petticoat or girdle, is entirely unnecessary. you compromising comfort, money, integrity, and even health. its prevalence even now should be offensive. we might as well hide our ankles.

[abeyantbirds]

so what are manners for? i mean, i think hiding your breasts from other people to see has to do with manners. plus they say bras are comforting for those with larger breasts and want them out of the way for the day.

[ifbei]

modesty is subjective. in the past, ankles, hair, and wrists were considered sexual, and now we think nothing of it. even today, women have to cover their faces.

as for comfort, to some they offer extra support, but to many others bras are just uncomfortable, but "necessary" because female nipples are obscene, but male are fine.

hide your breasts with a bra, and furthermore hide the bra as well. it's ridiculous.

[elliekate39]

I think its good that River and Lisa are dresses smart/casual! It shows that you don't have to be special to make a difference, anyone out there can join in in bettering the world. |I think it would be intimidating to the public if they were all sat up there in shirt and ties sending out the message they are superior and the power is in their hands only.

[EdTV20]

to bluestranger18

Lisa Bonet and River Phoenix were really good friends at the time but i don't think they would have ever dated but you are right they would have made a cute couple

[onedayillbehisfriend]

the blind leading the blind..... just kidding

[butterflyjamjar]

I thought that raul looks like gomez out of the addams family. I looked up his name and realised he was gomez! also I didnt know he died and at a very simiar time to river. River died 31/10/93 Raul died 24/10/94. We lost 2 gr8 caring people there :( love you River x miranda , uk x

[chrisizq]

The problem with Hollywood is they take things too far and they end up looking kooky. River seems like a good kid, it's a shame what happened to him, but he was worried about eating fish because of pollution, yet he did hard drugs? And Lisa Bonet won't eat chicken? It seems celebrities have a lot of time on their hands and just look for things to believe in. Raul Julia, however, did make a poignant statement about a real evil...communism. RIP guys.

[grahamjarman]

u well river also died of 4 times the lethal amount-sounds like sabatoge to me...wake up

[bluestarangel18]

lisa and River would have made a cute couple seems like they had the same beliefs and both are gorgeous !

to bad she was married at the time

[matrags]

Lisa Bonet is one of the most beautiful woman ever to walk the face of the earth. Even as a little boy watching the Cosby show I remember thinking she was hot.

[PinkBebe123]

not anymore

her looks only lasted so ong

[EdTV20]

the stupid comment that woman mad was a very dumb thing to do

[elmando5]

That is so sad that Raul Julia and River Phoenix are no longer with us. R.I.P. to both of them.

[RioandMe]

there was nothing wrong with river's and lisa's apperece i mean they both looked great and i knew river and he was a very great person with great hopes and dreams and lisa just looks like a very sweet person.

[shuyuki12]

and there was nothing wrong with her apperance at all she looked insanely gorgoues and healthy and glowing the caller was just a hater on them!

[shuyuki12]

yes she is and for some reason i like her hair like that its like she got out the bed and just put cloths on and still is as gorgoues beautiful and sexy as hell and hotter than the sun !

[envymeforgood]

lisa bonet is such a gorgoues woman but her hair lol oh well she could wear a potatoe sack and still look sexy gorgoues and smokin hot it dosent matter!

[RiverJudePhoenix93]

If River was dressed in a bin liner id still take in every single word he said!

Look is not everything, its personality that prevails, River just happened to have both!!!

So River, my angel, You have my vote on everything!!!!

R.I.P Darling!!

x

x

x

[desconocidos27]

@RiverJudePhoenix93 do you pray to him to?

[AquarianPhoenix]

That caller was in the wrong. She should have kept her mouth shut. I have total respect for River and Lisa. Who cares how they were dressed. Lady, if you happen to be reading this, "YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!"

[elliekate39]

I absolttely love how when the rude women made a comment about their appearance ,River didn't pretend he wasnt offended to make the moment easier, he showed his anger and quite rightly! That caller was an idiot!

[violetta223]

So you're saying that people are not judged by their appearance? Of course they are. You do it, I do it, everyone does it. Environmentalists, vegges etc... do dress slightly wild and are a bit essentric as a rule so I agree with the caller to a certain extent. I don't think she was being rude at all, just saying what is probably true.

People ARE judged by their appearance and it's a total lie to say they're not, it's basic human nature. It might not be right, but it's FACT.

[elliekate39]

no im not saying people arent judged by their appearance, of corse i do it. But I would never base my respect of their opinions on their appearance. They are dressed cassual and not in suits, big deal...

[RiverJudePhoenix93]

Thats total rubbish!!!

I am a vegetarian and animal activist and i dress 'normal' (whatever that is) im not wild or essentric, so you cant stereotype a certain person because of their beliefs !!!

[elliekate39]

" can he talk, did he tell you?" haha

[PinotNoir1975]

wow amazing clip..thanks for posting !!

[RJP7093]

Thank you so much for putting this up.

That lady with the comment about how they are dressed at the end of this clip... that lady is really retarded. how stupid can people get? it's ppl like that who are concerned about superficial things that ruin our planet.

[christellephoenix]

River is always adorable,lovely and sweet! River still always the best!

Some people are really very stupid!

I find River very simple and I like how he dressed. And Lisa too!

[RiosMyAngel7093]

What did River say right at the end? Something about the caller's grandmother? I couldn't catch it. I just got "Take" and "Your grandmother."And that was a stupid thing for that caller to say about the way River and Lisa were dressed!

[RisingScorpius]

he said "take your bra to your grandmother!" lol

[RiosMyAngel7093]

Lol...you gotta love him! <3 ;)

[PieceofMindmusic]

@RisingScorpius so punk rock hahaha X]

[Riversafriend]

Thanks for this I love it

[justradlin]

Thannnnnk you so much!!!! ;)